Make your own e-bike | Marin Hawk Hill MTB
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- Опубликовано: 23 май 2020
- I converted my old Marin Hawk Hill to an E Bike using the Voilamart 1000w rear wheel kit . It was fairly straightforward with plenty of help off the internet as the instructions were not up too much.
I got the Voilamart Kit and a 48v battery for around £500 and put 2 new tyres on for £30 , so a fairly cheap conversion in my books . It rides well and hoping to get out for some more green lane tours.
Its not the lightest but still goes well with a decent range if you don't rip the arse out of it.
Voilamart Ebike Build ….
Hub wheel kit £179
Battery £266
Bike bag for controller £7.99
Extras , torque arms , nuts bolts £20
TOTAL = £472.99
Prices as of May 2020
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Getting a 1000w kit from another brand over the weekend. Am so excited to assemble my first e-bike and be able to cruise like this wherever I go. Legit hate going slow on my bike, and I've grown up in a town with nasty headwinds that could slow any biker down to a crawl. The town I'm in doesn't have a wind problem though, but an excessive amount of steep hills problem
I did reply weeks back but my comment seems to have gone . Hope you got your kit ok 👍
Nice assembly and instrutual video. I'm going on my 3rd build soon. I've caught the e bike bug really bad ..😂
Thanks , pretty straightforward kits these days 🚲👍
Awesome mate, I run a 250w geared hub motor with 54v 22 amps 13ah , I love it
You're running a 250w motor at >1000w? I thought I was the only one! I'm running a 350w geared motor at 1200w peak, 900w continuous. Gets toasty!
it was a similar kit like this that got me hooked on ebiking, nice vid fella👍
Thanks , yeah hoping to get a proper ebike on the cycle to work scheme in October, this is great but soooo heavy lol
Wasn't that a pedestrians only gate ?
Nice build feller, I'm using my old Trek Bruiser for my build, everything should be here Thursday hope it goes as well as your build 😎
Take your time and it will be no problem, good luck atb Dave
Thanks for sharing your conversion experience. I am considering doing this with my Marin Fairfax 1 but don't have as much maintenance experience as you have. I'll have to consider whether I can pull it off. Take care!
I am sure you will be fine , it is fairly straightforward atb Dave
A very neat job indeed.
Thanks
Cool, I saved my old Marin bike from the scrappy by fitting a Bafang 750w motor. Lots of fun and decent for commuting. Definitely needs suspension seat. The bumps are hard on the ass
Yeah you do feel those bumps the faster it goes
fitted one to gt i drive comp,48v 1000w £140, battery £220, great fun,word of warning ,ensure you fit some torque arms on ,aluminium forks ,steel are best to use ,get 30 mile range or 1hr fun throttle in local woods ,been overtaking buses ,as its very fast 30mph+ .got to work 4 miles away 7 mins.
Yeah I would always recommend fitting torque arms as the extra force being put into the wheel , some great fun can be had on an e-bike
Great video,helped me do mine. Cheers
Glad it was of some help 👍
Thank you I enjoyed your video
Thanks much appreciated 👍
Just got a 1000w rear kit, it's fantastic, so fast it keeps me clear of any crappy driver swerving all over the place texting, 🙄 the drivers around here are maniacs 😅
Glad it’s going well 🚴🏻♂️👍
Thanks for sharing man , I'm on the threshold of a similar project ..a 1000 w 48v sandinrayli from Walmart $ 175.99 + tax
Sounds great and a decent price go for it atb dave
Very neat job 👌
Thanks 👍
@@davesolobiker5601 I need an ebike to be able to go 30 miles on a single charge would this do that with pedal assist please?.
I have watched a lot of these conversion kit install videos and I must commend you on your cable management. Brilliant. Now if you people over there could learn to drive on the proper side of the road, all would be good. LOL. Be well and stay behind bars.
Yeah nothing worse than cables riddled and left untidy on a conversion , I wish they wouldn't drive at all lol atb Dave
You must have misplaced the accent, but he's a brit so he does drive on the proper side of the road
@@davesolobiker5601 I do like, this clip, especially when the battery was late, looks great though. On the cable issue ... I switched to Wi-Fi. :)
Yeah I wish they would drive on the proper side of the road too, So many not fully concentrating and swerving onto my side! 😂
Like to see more then the ground good install.......
Converting my bike was the best thing iv done! I didn't bother with the little controller bag as I figured cooling would be better with it out in the open
It’s the future 🚲👍
Thank you for the video! Just installed same kit on my bike.It looks like we have the same crank setup.After I installed the pedal assist magnet and put my crank arm back on,when I tighten the bolt my crank will barely turn,I have to loosen the bolt a little,but then invariably the bolt will come loose and come out,any suggestions? Thanks
Don’t put your controller in a bag, mosfets are temperature sensitive transistors and will burn out if you overheat them.
The bag will contain the heat of higher speed riding and more quickly cause failure of the controller.
I’ve owned the 1500 watt non lcd display version and if you don’t have sufficient heat dissipation you’ll be changing out your controllers regularly.
@Elduende64 Yes a very good suggestion, I build a similar Voilamart 1000w version with a 52v battery on a unused 1993 Motiv Rockridge mountain bike 6 years ago and it didn't take me long to realize how hot the controller gets inside the bag without any ventilation 🤔, I then decided to remount it with the wires facing up & cable tied inside the alternate water bottle holder mount locaton on the rear down tube just below the bag with all the wires neatly hidden inside flexible conduit and the bag, while the battery is mounted on the front down tube primary water bottle mount screw location, I'm still using this same setup today with great success because the controller always remains cool to the touch. 😊
Can't go wrong with a marin
I’m adding a Bufang 1000 watt to a long tail cargo bike as my kids have grown up and harder to peddle. Looking into a battery for the water bottle cages.
AliExpress do bottle batteries 👍
@@davesolobiker5601 do you know which models? 52v 20hr? Learning:)
Hey mate quick question, originally my bike is running on a 9 speed cassette, if buy this kit which comes with a 7 speed freewheel would it work or do i have to change the whole gear set. Cheers
Yes it will but you will need to adjust your gears so they dont try and go into where the other 2 rear cogs used to be. Its easy enough its a screw you turn on the derailer to stop it going past a certain point . atb Dave
Thanks for your video. I have a question. I have installed a kit but the pedal assist only has one level. I don’t have the large monitor. Does your kit have different levels you can set to for pedalling?
Yes , you should be able to adjust the pedal assist.
Hi. Can I ask which thumb throttle you got that works with the voilamart controller? Was it plug and play or did the connectors needs re wiring? Thanks
I used the following thumb throttle www.ebay.co.uk/itm/282629555893
and it just plugged right in no need to rewire . Thanks Dave
Great vids keep them coming👍, can I ask your advice I've got a 2022 giant Talon 1 hardtail with 11 speed cassette and I am looking to get a 1500 watt rear hub drive kit. The trouble is the kit only comes in 7,8 or 9 speed hub. Do you think I can fit the 7 speed motor on my 11 speed giant?!I don't think my 11 speed cassette will fit on the hub of the kit? Thankyou for any advice you can give me 👍
Thanks for watching , a tricky one I think you could try and go with the 9 and adjust it so they don’t go past 9 otherwise it will come off .
Excellent instructional video there and a nice job done. Is the motor marked up as 500 watts? I am impressed by the low price of it, but my driving license is too valuable to me to risk all the backwash if I got caught riding an illegal bike in a public place. If it isn't obviously over powered (legally speaking) and I could blag my way out of the fact that the motor looks big and beefy, I might consider it. How is it on steep hills? Where I live, there are 20% hills. Hub motor might not do well and I might need a mid drive which works via the bikes gearing system to keep the old motor spinning fast and happy.
Yeah 500 watts , it’s only illegal if you de-restrict passed 15mph (uk) it is good on hills but they do drain the battery .👍
hello, how did you connect the battery to the controller as your battery has an anderson connecter and your controller has pin hole connecter
I just connected them using a normal electrical connector, snipping off the original ones
run the same power into a 500w geared hub motor and you can still pedal it like a normal bike.
Did you get a bigger bag for the controller? If so, what did you get??
I did , I found the one supplied was rubbish . I got one off ebay www.ebay.co.uk/itm/323464625143
atb Dave
Is the easi-fit kit in your other videos a better option than this one? I like the convenience of the easi-fit but this seems like a lot more power for the money?
Easi fit is what it says but if your after power and heavy set up this kit would be better , I personally like the lighter weight and have got used to the lower power 👍
@@davesolobiker5601 thanks, that's good to know. Easi-fit sounds like the best option for me. I found your videos helpful 👍
Your original was a 8 speed cassette just wanted to know if you needed to do anything else after fitting the 7 speed cassette on?
yes I had to adjust my gears so it didn’t go past gear 7 , used the screws on the derailleur .
How reliable are these kits? I'm looking to install one for commuting 9 miles (flat) to and from work each day.
I can only vouch for mine , but it was reliable . However you will need to recharge every couple of days doing those miles . You will get more out of a charge by not using the thumb controller and just using the pedal assist.
Dumb question coming up. On my bike the brake levers and the gear change are combined, any ideas how to deal with this? need to be able to change gears, but can't have four brake levers. Suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Never done anything like this before.
That is a tricky one , the only thing I can suggest is the the levers that come with the kit will have a sensor/cut off switch . Try and see if it’s possible to remove this sensor and put it onto your existing levers. Failing that you can buy separate sensors to retro fit to your existing levers .
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there are also others if you do a search
good luck atb Dave
Is your kit still going strong?? Thinking of doing this but worry about the long term test on motor and battery??
Still going strong but I suppose like anything they only have a certain shelf life .
Hi wondering if you can help me I have the same kit on mine as soon as it goes over about 30mph the motor starts vibrating every time I built one a few years ago and don’t think that one did it it doesn’t do it if you lift the back wheel up and test at full throttle just when your riding it. Do you know if yours does the same? Thanks
Sorry can’t help on this issue I never noticed this problem with mine .
@ 19:09 you show the LCD. Recently my LCD started coming on the second I turn battery power on. It shows bn3.6 on the screen where the OD is. At the bottom it shows 900. Power is instantly available to throttle before I turn on the system via the "M" button. When I turn off the LCD via the "M" button I get "OFF" on the screen but still have power to the throttle. I contacted Voillamart and they asked for more details. I included a detailed video of the system but they have not respond since. Has anyone ever experienced the LCD doing this?
Sorry can’t help you with this , not had this problem that I am aware of .
Anyone know if you can do a regen-braking mod to these? Biggest problem I had was getting the brake disc to fit on it. Had to get a new rotor and fabricate a bracket.
Not sure on that one
Disc/rotor should fit on easily, you must have bought an oddball motor
How’s the rear wheel holding up buddy I’ve heard of spokes snapping
Since I did this video I have sold the bike , but in the time I had it no spokes snapped on me .👍
The cable coming out of the motor-hub looks awfully thin for at least 20 amps. I think the power wires on these often need to be upgraded to a higher guage.
yes I would probably agree atb Dave
good
Thanks
do you have to pedal from a standstill to get going? or can you simply just twist the throttle to make it move?
You can either twist throttle or pedal until assist kicks in 👍
@@davesolobiker5601 thanks!
How's the back wheel mate what's the performance like a year on ?
The bike was sold on , but when sold it was still going strong 💪🏻
Great video. I am going to fit this kit to my bike but I have hydraulic disc brakes so I cannot fit the brake levers.
Can this kit be fitted without the supplied brake levers? Will the motor and controller work without the brake levers connected
It can if you take the sensors off the supplied ones and retro fit to your own levers . Basically it just a contact that once it touches the other part of it. This cuts the power to the motor.
@@davesolobiker5601 Brilliant thank you once again! 😀
The new bag looks better
Are you worried that it’s over the legal
Limit in the UK
No as there are plenty of idiots delivering food at high speed who look better targets to be stopped , Iam aware of my surroundings and when best to go faster 👍
Hey i just got this kit and its very good for commuting but im afraid i could be stopped by police what happens if they do and is it common?
Plead stupidity and that you were told the max speed was 15mph 😂 or put the wire back that limits it to the uk limit 👍
did you get the tools for free with the kit?
No tools came with this kit , but an adjustable spanner will work fine with a set of Alan keys
Any links to where you purchased the kit and battery from ? thanks
Unfortunately not as since I built it over 2 years ago , sellers have changed or don’t have this kit anymore. Sorry
Nice vid. I just got that kit recently. Please can you post a link for the battery and controller bag. Thanks
Thanks hope yours is going well , bag = www.ebay.co.uk/ipp/323464625143?transactionId=2187494249011&_trksid=p2047675.l48352
Battery = www.ebay.co.uk/ipp/183604898994?transactionId=2103698406008&_trksid=p2047675.l48352
ATB Dave
Thanks. For some reason the links don’t work
Just looked on my page it seems they are sold out sorry
@@oliveoil3650 look at unit pack power battery
Hi
Em why does mc voilamart bike make a wheeeee Sound from the Motor when i Ride it and youres not ?
Mine does make a wheee sound but the GoPro mic I am using might not be picking it up .
@@davesolobiker5601 okay I guess ist normal thx
Do you have a link to the corresponding Thumb Throttle please as i hate my twist Throttle
Sorry I don’t , a search will find one that will fit that kit , you will need to check the connection port as I can’t remember what it looks like - www.amazon.co.uk/VGEBY-Throttle-Control-Accelerator-Electric/dp/B08KFC114S/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=1CZCBYL3L663D&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.hW1uMxtJ6UFoFni21QrnuTPJMiccpveaGVGs2NzZUXKqpiKkHvMOpWr1w15-LhkCa89KCiaHSl8ojTA2mSKogwz_T3_LLsaqh14Rbdi2teqLF1LJAZziF1RMe4s1M5tbVFz_BRxbtdh6R1_-UMSKS27cjGZrt5AZ0tAG6r3S6tzXFqztz6exhuueWuf6K__8s0ACNCjWoG8gS3gaDJWT_Q.hNzgLBHSX-rH1CGBESjYKWur82J-IjvDpEY4w7fsieQ&dib_tag=se&keywords=ebike+thumb+throttle&qid=1717400246&sprefix=ebike+thumb+thrott%2Csports%2C339&sr=8-3
hello, very good video but unfortunately you have skipped the connection part between the battery and the controler on your battery have Anderson connectors and the controller have BULLET connectors how you did it? thank you
Hi , it because the video was made over a few weeks . I connected the battery with some normal screw type electrical connectors . I just cut of the connecters either side and joined together that way .
Do you have direct link where you ordered this from. Thanks
Sorry I don’t , I got the wheel on eBay and the battery Amazon I think.
How much did you spend total and can you list how much everything was
Voilamart Ebike Build ….
Hub wheel kit £179
Battery £266
Bike bag for controller £7.99
Extras , torque arms , nuts bolts £20
TOTAL = £472.99
Prices as of May 2020
Mate I need your help I got a ebike kit exactly the same and I got a gold ring in there does it go on with the casset?? Kind regards
now your asking , I can’t remember a gold ring on mine ? is it some kind of spacer maybe ?
@@davesolobiker5601 I think it is a spacer for behind the casset, when I put it in first gear it rubs slightly on the motor hub. Kind regards
Doing your laundry while recording your build... LOL
Yep 😂
I enjoyed the video but you couldn't turn that dryer off for at least 30min?
In hindsight yeah but it’s too late now 😂
Wow, Nice, I just bought the Voilamart kit and ordered the battery separately, I've never assembled anything like this before but I'm going to try..!! your Bike Is nice, Is it a large frame you have or medium? Also I've heard that the Tyre that comes with kit isn't that good, what Tyres did you get Instead? Any good make? I'm learning slowly and going to attempt to build my own.. thanks, Jeff
Glad I could help Jeff , yeah the tyre that came with it was no good so I put Schwalbe black jacks on both wheels . The inner tube for the rear was ok due its long valve for the thicker wheel . I think my bike is a medium.
Just take your time route the cables as neat as possible , I also changed out the little bag for the controller as I found it a little small .
Happy Building atb Dave
@@davesolobiker5601 Thanks Dave, It means a lot for the help and advice.. whilst I'm waiting for the battery to arrive could I ask about the brakes? My brakes are Cantilever and I see that In the Diagram that it has 2 leads from the controller for the brakes, I've read that when the brakes are applied that it will cut out the motor.. can I use my existing brakes for this or do I need to upgrade my brakes to Disc Brakes?
Can you help and advise? Many Thanks, Jeff
@@jeffhalkyard No worries Jeff , mine were disk brakes but were worked via cable . So I think your brakes will be fine just swap the levers for the ones supplied so the power will be cut as you say. But what I would say is once the brakes are all fitted I would test for how well they stop you as the bike will now be heavier and faster ! Hope this helps atb Dave
Hi Jeff, can I ask where you got your battery from? I'm struggling to find a decent place to buy a battery without costing a limb
@@PlainVlogs Hi Luke, how are you? I got mine from Ebay but it came from Germany as It's cheaper than buying from the UK, I bought a 52v 20ah as I was told that the Conversion Kit controller can take up to 56v and I had someone tell me online that it's a powerful battery, It's a bit on the big side and a little heavy, but not too much, I would have preferred one of the normal downtube removable batteries, but, they cost as much as I paid, for less power, although, now that I've bought it I do wish I hadn't due to the size factor.. but here's the link to it, take a look, it only took one week to arrive. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/UPP-52V-20Ah-Lithium-Ebike-Battery-for-1000W-1200W-1500W-Motor-Triangle-Case-LED/392996557131
What battery did you use? Can you send me a link?
It was a Panasonic one but the link has now ended , sorry
What in the heck was in the dryer? It sounded like a block of wood!
Two blocks I think 😂
Isn't there a limit to 250w in the uk? I was planning a 1000w one until I found that out
All bikes in UK are limited to 15 mph , but mine had the option to not connect a wire which limited it . Obviously that is illegal in UK unless are on private land 🤫
@@davesolobiker5601 I know about the speed limit, but reading about it on the gov website said it was also limited by 250w. I would have no problem getting a larger wattage and just keeping the speed low, but if its not allowed at all I will have to go low power.
I have a big bike trailer to pull or I would just stick to pedaling, I'm only asking about it here because it seems confusing that so many people have what the gov website says isn't allowed and I'm not sure what to order.
Thanks for your response btw.
I wasn’t aware of the 250w limit but having just checked the gov website . It seems you can have a higher watt bike but it needs registered and insured and a helmet worn . I am guessing there are a lots of illegal e-bikes out there and telling the difference will be difficult.
I have seen lots of kids racing around on high powered Ebikes without pedalling so that is a big giveaway to the police .
I suppose it’s down to wether you want to take a risk on getting a higher output but 250w with a trailer will in my opinion struggle.
@@davesolobiker5601 yeah I figured it wouldn't really be a problem to have 500w or so, its just my paranoia that makes me ask.
I can pedal with the trailer full of shopping as it is, but I wanted something to make it a bit easier.
So the general idea is get a more powerful wattage but keep the speed under 15mph and if anyone asks say its 250w ;-)
I just wear a headlamp instead of putting a light on the frame that you'll eventually forget to bring with you that gets stolen.
Is your kit a 27.5” or a 26”?
Mine was 26” wheel
What's your electric range (without pedaling)? 😁
Sorry don’t know as I always pedalled lol
Watching this thinking "I know that voice"
Yep , trying to keep the biking stuff away from my other channel Lee 😂
Hiw wide must the rear dropout be for the 1000 watt kit
Not sure as I have sold this bike on now sorry
Why would you keep it in pedal assist 1 the whole time you were riding it? Oh right, you mounted the buttons on the other side of your bell and you couldn't reach them. Very little commentary on its performance and no mention of the specs of the battery. No speed, hill climbing or range test.
I found pedal assist more than enough for my needs , I done another video on its performance further on . atb Dave
What price is kit
I done this one for just over £500 bike not included.
Can you post the buying links please
Since I bought it 2 years back the links are no longer available , sorry
What's the furthest you've ridden? Over the last couple of years I've realised by cyclists use padded shorts, clip on shoes and even noticed that proper cyclists all have super thin seats, and after riding a few 40 mile rides, I realised why. Your sit bones are supposed to fit around the seat, not sit on top of the gel cushions. The gel might feel comfortable at first but after a while your arse it gonna hurt. Also, did you ever get caught / pulled over?
absolutely correct , when I’m on the Ebike it’s mostly to commute so short stints in the saddle . saying that I have a road bike with a proper racing saddle and I still get a sore arse anything over 25 miles 😂
Hello dear you can ride good 👍 for your age 😅has fin😊
Thanks but I’m a young 56😂
500£ is cheap? I guess...
Cheap if you already have a bike to convert 👍
@@davesolobiker5601 I spent 100$ on my conversion, $150 if you include the battery. Already had a bike to convert.
now that’s cheap 👍
Additionally the version with internal controller is GARBAGE, don’t buy!!!
Unless you’re IT savvy and know how to fix a controller motherboard you are far better off buying the external controller system for more easier access to your controller when it gets fried-and depending on how much you ride, it will eventually need changing out.
Thanks , I no longer own the bike so all is good.
"cheap" conversion
Yep as the title says 👍
Can you provide a link for what battery 🔋 you chose. I'm seeing batteries fora lot less but the kits have gone up in price for 1000w but then 48w kits are cheaper?
Aliexpress 1000w 48v batteries for around 350 bucks gives a fair range and performance
bwj_13son on eBay Panasonic cells is the one i got, r team