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Which character do you think could beat Ross' time?
Amelia, of course :P
@@Yanosh6 Ohhh, that's a bold claim, but I can see it!
I think giving one of the Pegasus knights a shot could be interesting. Definitely have traversal advantage on most maps, but I can see them struggling to survive quite a bit. I've never had an even halfway decent Vanessa.
The pegasus knights are for sure an interesting option. I'd be very intrigued seeing how they perform.
seth
My issue with Ross is that he always ends up too strong and dies because he keeps killing people who attack him, thus freeing up the empty space beside him.
Yeah, he kinda just gets chained by a ton of enemies too easily in the late game haha
When you understand the assignment so well that you fail it.
It's crazy how relateable this comment is. I don't even play Fire Emblem that much and I remember this happening to my Ross.
The curse of the glass cannon, I had Lucius go down in FE8 a few times for the same reason, he doubles everyone and hits decently hard, but shit defense and low HP.
Mekkah always calls this suffering from succes.
Nothing is more iconic to me in sacred stones than Ross critting and killing Formotiis in one hit.
He really is that guy!
Ross and Seth make FE8 VERY memorable
16:54 "You're not at all what I had expected"
I think most people that Ross fights don't expect that he's also a princess of Renais
hahaha no they don't
There's something hilarious about the flashes of cutscenes showing Ross and Ephraim as siblings saving the world.
Hahahaha yeah seeing Ross in some of the cutscenes made me laugh at times 😅
Oh we DEFINITELY need the Amelia and Ewan videos now too!
We'll see if they can compete for that top spot!
@@kratosmvn_ Make it extra fun and make Amelia a general, it'd be so slow going!
@gcook725 ooof you're trying to sabotage her final time there 😂
I don't think Amelia can actually complete the opening battle. 3 axe users when she only has a slim lance, almost certainly impossible
Challenge accepted 😎
I love the mental image of the Tirado fight. Ross vs Tirado with the mages throwing spells, Ross kills Tirado and staggers into the throne and all of the mages just give up because reasons.
They just go... well, I guess we don't have any more incentive to kill him. 😂
Shared the genuine surprise at the final boss, massive difference compared to Eirika's run.
It was a great ending! And yeah, Eirika really doesn't even compare haha
Im really surprised by how many times Ross was 1dmg away from killing in 1 round after he capped his level at 29str. I guess the 30str really is crucial, huh
That one point would have probably saved a little bit of time in the end for sure.
That crit in the final fight was so clutch.
Right? Truly the best way to end the run.
Other people have already brought up the comparison to pokemon runs and I agree wholeheartedly. Would love to this concept expanded on. I must have watched every Jrose solo run imaginable so seeing it in FE is great.
Glad you enjoyed! I love Jrose's videos too! I'm happy to bring the concept to life for Fire Emblem!
This is a really smart idea, keep doing these! This is just like the Pokemon challenges people do, where they beat the game with one pokemon they hack into the beginning. I can't wait to see who you choose next.
Thank you! It's how I got inspired to do them. I was kind of surprised to see that no one had taken the concept into the Fire Emblem franchise so I decided to give it a shot. :)
Tbh I find this kind of challenge much more interesting in FE than Pokemon because the games are actually challenging. Almost any unit will struggle at some point in the game (inb4 Seth Solo)
@zeoxyman I enjoy the idea for Fire Emblem because of the somewhat random growths it makes each run kind of more personal
I love these! Ross was always one of my favorites so I loved seeing him go ham on everyone
Glad you enjoyed the video. I'm a huge Ross fan to! Love to see him go off.
Ross is just built different, no other way to put it
love this content, as the tierlist grows it might be cool to add a death counter for each character too
Glad you enjoyed! Ross is really good. Death counter is a hard add because it's harder for me to go back and track because the Demon King is most of the time luck base and it's hard to ascribe the correct "value" of what a death is worth. I've thought of maybe adding a reset counter tho.
The reason you got double crit on the gorgon map is because when you’re hit by Stone, the enemies are set to 100 hit and 30 crit on you. So getting crit twice is relatively likely
Yeah, that's fair.
5:10 I think this soldier specifically has a different A.I. where they will approach one of your units but will not attack unless they are already adjacent to any of your units at the start of their turn. Very weird specific A.I. but it's there.
Yeah, it's an interesting one for sure, but the more you know.
I did some research on your Ross' strength stat because I felt something was off and I'm an FE nerd I guess so here goes:
Ross gained 1 strength upon promotion, which took him to 21 strength. The two energy rings you gave him took him up to 25 strength.
That means, he got 4 strength from level ups as a berserker.
We start counting at berserker level 1, so Ross gained 19 levels, 4 of which were strength level ups.
According to my calculations, and I'm pretty sure I'm right, the chances of getting 4 strength or less on 19 levels are absolutely absurdly low: it's 0,96%. Less than a 1 out of 100 chance this actually happens.
Let's just say your Ross was kinda cursed lmao.
And by the way, I love these kinda vids. You're very good at the fast-paced commentary, so keep it up. Just wondering: were you inspired by Jrose? It seems pretty similar and it works really well. Subbing for sure
@JJJ JJJ Thank you for subbing! I LOVE that calculated all of that for me... holy hell that's insanely unlucky haha. I was inspired by Jrose indeed, love his content.
FUN FACT THAT NO ONE ASKED FOR: Tirado was the map that I grinded to lvl 20 pirate on. Alot of time that payed off till I got Ross killed and was to far into the game to want to restart the map and save him......😢
Edit: this wasn't a solo run just one of my early playthroughs of the game.
Man, losing Ross in any run is always a little heart breaking. Haha
Your level 20 pirate had the same Res as your first Ross that you had to reset for. That Ross was really blessed
Damn, I didn't even notice that! Good catch. 👌 Blessed in everything but strength:(
Then just to spite you your first Ross probably would have made it to 30 strength naturally
I am absolutely LOVING these playthroughs. Would love to see the other trainees get some spotlight, Ewan is a MUST at this point. Seeing Ephraim run through the game would be pretty cool too. I imagine he would have little difficulty clearing the majority of the game either.
I'm happy to hear you're enjoying the content! The trainee units are popular asks, with reason. Can't wait to get to them and Ephraim too!
Mulder, Natasha, and L'Arachel would slay this challenge, no doubt about that!🥰💅✨👑
There's nothing Moulder the Boulder can't do with that magnificent mustache.
@@kratosmvn_ If someone is incapable of fighting and want to include them here are some ideas on ways to handle it that I could think of. 1. Give them the monster weapon skill and give them the zombie claws or one of the eye magic attacks. 2. Start them as pre promotes with the same statline (does not help with dancer). 3. Give them rapier proficiency like Erika, it will let them use rapier even though they have no rank.
@@Lex_Araden Thank you for the ideas I appreciate it.
Give them big enough staff rating and 5 Berserk Staves or something
@@stormtrooperjon9212 This would be fun to check the possibility of. Maybe even just fill the convoy with Berserk and allow pulling them out, just to test the viability of using mooks to beat each other and bosses.
Really enjoyed the Eirkia video, excited for this one too! :)
Thank you, I appreciate that! Hopefully you enjoy this one too. :D
Came here immediately from your Eirika run, and instantly subbed. Your voice over quality is great, and I'm truly surprised to see you only have 1.4k subs, you deserve way more. Looking forward to seeing more Sacred Stones solo runs!
Thank you for saying this I appreciate it! With time and effort we'll grow beyond that 1.4K, but I'm immensely grateful for hitting that mark overall regardless.
Ross - One Strength off max.
81 HP Dracozombies - “So, you have chosen… death.”
Literally exactly what happened haha
Great run! I'm glad to see you continue doing these. Ross is a beast and Berserker is definitely the move. I'd love to see a Ewan run in the future!
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed the run! Ewan will be something fun to attempt for sure!
So glad I found your channel. I haven't even played Fire Emblem before but through your videos, I'm playing through Sacred Stones (the sane, normal way though lol)!
Glad you found the channel I appreciate you watching and I'm happy your starting your FE journey along with us. It's a great franchise!
I'm suffering from a brutal breakup, but at least this amazing video is cheering me up. Great videos like this and my amazing caring friends are helping me so much that I got over her in a matter of minutes! Thank you, keep it up
I have fantastic news. I will say it on the next video
Love this run. I'm a huge fan of axe wielders in Fire Emblem so naturally Ross is my favorite FE8 trainee.
Also 27:19 I have a feeling that this bit about Dracozombies ignoring defense will be implemented in some way with Fallen Morva in FEH.
Ross has to be one of my favs for sure too!
I'm really glad you're doing more like this. Surprise to see not many content like this. I think you definitely started something here. Awesome run 👍
Thank you for the kind words! I'm happy to see the positive response to it and hopefully we'll see more content like this.
Love the videos, sacred stones is a game that has a special place in my heart for nostalgia. Would love to see stats for number of resets/game overs at the end of each run to compare units!
Thanks for the great content!
Thank you for the kind words! Glad you enjoy the content. I'll think about adding a game over number to the tierlist as a few people have asked for it.
Another very enjoyable video! Would love to see how a mage such as Knoll or Lute would manage on their own
Thank you! I'm also very intrigued by the speed of mages! Soon enough we'll see.
Aias: So here you are, Eirika...
Ross: Who?
Aias: You're not at all what I had expected.
I see you.
😂😂😂😂
Insane crit at the end, Ross is my boy
It's probably going to be impossible, but I wonder if Neimi could stand a chance. Otherwise, my GOAT Gerik could be pretty fun, even though his growths are not that great other than 90% HP
Ross is great! Neimi is on the shortlist for sure cause she is gonna be a huge challenge I feel. I also can't wait to get to Gerik because he was one of my favs as a kid.
@@kratosmvn_ Archer will be a huge challenge cause if they surround you on all sides its an automatic loss you cant hit them back with most bows, be interesting to see.
@@neophantom2837 My exact thought process there!
Just started the video.... And i have but a single word. ARE YOU INSANE MAN! Ross is practically impossible to train this way... Ima sub now
Yeah I'm a little crazy for doing these I think 😂
That chapter 8 mage dancing was clutch haha!
I was sweating bullets 😅
Im glad to see this run. I was very optimistic about it since Ross is usually my MVP in this game. Tho I almost every time go for Hero + brave axe and obliterate everything.
Ross is for sure one of my MVPs most of the time too! Hero + Brave Axe sounds like a pretty combo not gonna lie!
Love challenge runs like this, great vid bro
Thank you very much! I'm glad you enjoyed :)
Berserker and Hero are definitely Ross' best options. Hero has slightly better promotion bonuses (It really helps his Speed, which both he and Garcia need a ton of) but Berserker adds some much-needed Con, as well as the crit bonus and extra mmobility.
Yeah, when I use Ross or Garcia I always go for berserker Ross and Hero Garcia, even if I don’t use them too often.
Yeah Warrior really doesn't seem worth it in SS.
I really need more of these runs, I have already played this thrice on the Background.
I find interesting the really bad early Level Ups, the bad RNG always happens to me either on Binding Blade or Radiant Dawn.
Keep up the great work! Loving It!
Thank you so much for the kind words, I'm glad you're enjoying the series this much! I'll try to get to working on the next one asap. Bad early level ups can be destructive sometimes haha
Ross dodged all of those mages in the throne room. GOATED
Clutch plays from my mans all around!
Amazing run! Keep up the good work, loving these challenges cant wait for the next one, much love!
Thank you! I'm so happy you enjoyed it! More to come.
Awesome video!
Poor Eirika and Ephraim are going to be at a disadvantage in these since their promo items come so late!
My bet is that Ewan, Artur, and Lute will be the toughest (excluding the healers) just because of how fragile they are, especially early game.
Thank you very much! Yeah, I think Eirika and Ephraim's late promotion will be a detriment to their possible time.
that SPECIFC soldier with the weird ass A.I. in chapter 1 has a specific flag in his code that makes him unable to move and attack at the same time. So he can spend a turn moving, or if you end turn next to him (like you did on turn two) he can spend a turn attacking someone, but never both in one turn.
The chapter 1 soldier has his ai set to "only attack when adjacent" which means he will only attack someone he starts his turn adjacent to, so if you never end your turn adjacent to him, he will never attack.
I remember the first time I unlocked the Super Trainees and did that to Ross. Absolute DEMON. Sure, the Con hit was a little unpleasant, but come ON, guys
I'd have to try Super Trainees at some point!
Really enjoying The Sacred Stones content! Would love to see the whole roster done eventually!
Duly noted! It's in my plans. I'm glad you enjoy the content :)
"Rip and tear until it is done"
-Ross, maybe
Sounds accurate to me LOL
Berserker is the only right choice for Ross! Looking forward to more runs
Berserker Ross goes brrrr
Cant believe everyone is deadnaming prince Ross
I'm going crazy over that 40% luck growth
You could have just replaced the second Ross in chapter 2 with the Eirika he swapped with. You could do that in every future run, having Eirika in place of the unit you're using. Kinda inconsequential, but it'd be neat and at least all the items available would be completely balanced out.
I'll keep it mind for future runs!
This guy’s delivery and commentary really reminds me of Jrose
As someone who really likes Jrose, I'll say: thank you 😊
I saw the thumbnail and thought it was an explanation of why it was the best unit then I read the title and was like "oh, this is better".
hahahaha yeah I can see how it could be taken that way. Hopefully you enjoyed the video :)
@@kratosmvn_ Haven't watched yet (I was at the university in my student office). Now, back at home, I'll watch.
@@kratosmvn_ Also loved the Eirika one.
Imagine if one of those Mages with Tirado decided to sit on the throne after he died lol
I would have been so sad lmao
You asked about the AI early on in the video, so here's what I've been able to suss out. The AI seems to follow a checklist for determining who to attack:
1. If an enemy is in range, a unit programmed to move and attack always will.
2. The unit first prioritizes its own survival. If it has a higher chance of surviving against one unit than another, it seems to take that chance. This includes attacking melee units at range, or attacking archers in melee.
3. The unit then prioritizes damage. If it would take the same amount of damage from two units, it then chooses the one it has the highest probability to do the most damage to.
I have no idea why the soldier doesn't attack though. Probably a glitch.
"Ah... So here you are. The princess Eirika."
"Who?"
"You're not at all what I had expected..."
Amazing job, my friend! Keep it going, you're almost making me play the old FE games after all xD
Thank you my friend!!! 😍 You should play them they are great haha
This is a great series I liked this one and the Erika one as well, gotta see the best “jagen” out there Seth
Glad you enjoy it! I can't wait to get to Seth the GAWD!
Ross the man was back and now he's the main character
Ross stepped into this main character boots perfectly lol
I love you :)
Seeing such high effort content with the small amount of subs and comments if really crazy. I would expect this video to be on a big channel. Keep it up man.
I appreciate the kind words! To me, the size of my channel isn't an excuse to not give it my 100% 😊
Yeah...Bezerker ross or even a well statted Pirate Ross with Killing edge is like that famous scene with Jaffar.
A bloodbath.
😅
Oh yeah! The Erika vid was so good, glad to see another run!
I'm glad to hear you're enjoying the videos. :D
Ross berserker is my favorite unit by far. I used to effectively do this challenge even when playing the game normally cause Ross would be soloing every chapter as a level 20 berserker while my other units were very underleveled
Omg so damn good. Loving these vids. Can’t wait to see a Pegasus run
Thank you! Pegasus is gonna be interesting for sure.
The AI is pretty simple IIRC, basically there are 2 big checks, First check is can you counter attack, if you cant they will prio that unit, then it goes to most dmg possible with a non zero hit rating.
This Lv20 Pirate Ross is better than my Gonzales save state arena level manipulation. So IT IS AN AWESOME UNIT!
It was pretty dominant that's for sure. 😎
something else berserker ross has over hero ross is 13 constitution vs 11 (fighter ross should get +3 while pirate gets +2). Pirate also gives +1 speed and defense while fighter gives +1 skill and res (both give +2 HP and strength). Ross struggles with doubling early on, so that +1 speed can really help him, though the 1 less constitution as a pirate vs a fighter does mean he takes a bit more attack speed penalty from heavier axes, but iron axes weigh 10 and they'll be what is most often used. Hand axes also weigh 12, so berserker ross can use them with no speed penalty, but hero ross would lose a point of speed (until you use the body ring found in the desert, assuming you get it). After using the body ring with berserker ross though, he can use all axes with no speed penalty except brave axe (-1) and devil axe (-3)
Style points also go to berserker ross, and the +2 defense and +40 avoid from peak terrain doesn't come up in every map, but it does come up in a fair number of them, including later maps that are the harder ones
amusingly your first ross ended up being strangely res blessed-his average stats say he usually won't have 4 res until a level 12 pirate
of note for future axe user runs-there's a warrior that spawns with pablo in chapter 13 that carries a swordslayer that can just wreck carlyle. That warrior also carries a hand axe, and will drop whichever he isn't wielding when he's beaten. Of course, getting that swordslayer means having to deal with pablo's entourage which can be pretty hard to deal with for a single unit since it's a mix of magic and physical enemies with most weapon types covered and pablo has purge and deals heavy damage
for the desert chapter-I'd honestly say probably the best way to handle the duessel and ephraim situation is having duessel grab ephraim and sit on a fort to make sure he doesn't die and expose ephraim to being killed, just making sure to send the solo unit south first to wipe out the enemies around duessel, hopefully before they break their weapons on him. That seems the most consistent to me, though I suppose having duessel wait on the village tile can work too, just having the solo character go south still to wipe out the enemies and make sure duessel doesn't die from repeated hits. Edit-it occurs tome you can have ephraim hold onto vulneraries/elixirs in chapter 8 before finishing the map and have duessel grab them in chapter 15 and then use those to heal, that might work too if you don't want him sitting on a fort
ch 18-you probably should take out the stone gorgons first to try and minimize chance of getting hit by stone, and the gorgons that only have demon surge can be counter killed with handaxe/javelins, while stone has 1-3 range and they'll almost certainly attack from outside your unit's counter range unless they have a longbow equipped or other enemies are blocking all the tiles to attack from 3 range
ch 21 vs leon is probably safer to to remove most of the gorgons around leon before trying to kill him unless you can one round him consistently, otherwise it'll be a lot of resetting because of getting ganged up on by all the gorgons
for future runs-what are you going to do for units that use rare weapon types like dark magic or light magic where you can't get more tomes for them to use until quite a few levels have passed? They're almost certainly going to run out of weapon uses by like chapter 3 or 4. Will you end up doing runs with the bonus units like ismaire, orson, and lyon?
Thanks for the very detailed comment I appreciate it! I may try future runs with non-playable and enemy characters in the future, but we'll cross that bridge when we get there. As for tome users that use rare tomes I'll have to be creative and think on my feet for sure.
@@kratosmvn_ if/when you do monster/myrrh runs, it's gonna be fun to see the infinite use monster weapons. Same for tethys if you decide to do a silly solo run with her, or lyon with his infinite use naglfar
@@MarkofWisdom I think that may be a great idea.
I used to use Ross as a wall of flesh in one-tile doors, and he would die because every enemy in the map would make it their life’s goal to kill him
Yeah, he can be a good way to block important paths that's how strong he is.
Genuine nailbiter at 12:30. Good run!
Thank you very much :D
Yes. Deploying Ross is the Fire Emblem equivalent of a WMD.
Truly is! 😂
Reminds me of Jrose11's runs, really like the vid and series!
Thank you! I did get inspired somewhat by Jrose for this style of video, I love his content.
SO IT WASN’T JUST ME! I just commented the same thing!
SS is my least favorite FE game but because of your videos, I'm starting to want to play it again. Really entertaining runs there!
I'm glad you enjoyed and eventually I'll try my hand at other FE games for sure! :)
@@kratosmvn_ looking forward to your blazing blade run!
Me too! Love Blazing Blade as a game.
Ewan and Amelia need to be compared to that clear speed. Ross absolutely wrecked the time!
Demon King: "I are evul!"
Ross: "I go brrr!"
Yeah, I'll have to get to Ewan and Amelia soon just for the sake of comparison, Yeah, Ross really went 'I don't care who you are' lol
That soldier has AI that forces him not to attack, if he has to move to attack. So, basically don't wait next to the soldier
Thanks for the clarification!
Ross go BRRRRRR as long as no gorgons are not present
Exactly 😂
AI in FE8 for most units is to attack the unit where they will do the most damage assuming they will hit. (This is part of why phantoms are so good). Some units are programmed to go for specific units.
Also, Leon is the reason to go for warrior. Longbow lets you chip away at his HP safely.
Yeah, I learned a lot about the AI, by making this video. Fair Lyon point, but without Berserker you don't get the SWEET crit finish ;)
Thrives can also cross rivers, I use that to get the energy ring from the mage on chapter 7 and get Neimi across the river.
That's true because they have 6 movement allowing them to be over that river threshold.
I can't imagine the kind of psychopath you would have to be to promote ross into a fighter
Fully agree! 👌
“Oh how the turn tables…”
Wait. What?
Also. Just to do it for fun. Seth. Just to see what the benchmark should be.
Seth will be interesting run to see how good being a godlike unit truly is.
I bet the final boss with a crit from Ross too. That felt so good🤓
Nice! It was really a satisfying moment haha
Surprised you didn't try the super journeyman class Ross could go. Could be a fun hellish challenge haha!
The super trainee run does sound like a hellish challenge!
It's been a while since I played the GBA games, but I'm PRETTY sure that the way the AI works for targeting isn't the amount of damage they deal, but how low the player units HP will be if they hit, presuming they can deal some damage. Assuming Seth was unequipped in the prologue, then there might be a factor where being able to reduce HP to below a certain threshold will overwrite their usual propensity of avoiding counter-attacks.
So it'd be HP percentage then interesting 🤔
Keep em coming dude
Thank you, will do!
I honnestly believe you should do these challenges with the average growth hack, will remove the luck involved in stat softlocks while saving you time
A lot of people have proposed this, but I like the luck aspect of it, to me it's much more interesting that way.
Man, if Ross struggled that badly with Chapter 18, Cormag gives me pause just thinking about that chapter. At least Ross had a great luck growth rate to help with dodging. Cormag, on the other hand...
Ohhh, that's a great point! It's going to be an interesting chapter to key our eyes on for his run. But yeah Cormag is one of my fav units.
Just found your channel, love this video and will be watching more of yout challenges!
My only critique would be asking why you didn't use a pure water to help during the magical attack enemies? I totally get is it was a choice for the limited inventory, I was just curious!
Great ending to a fun challenge!
Thank you for the kind words, and I'm glad you found the channel. As for the pure water question... is: 'I am dumb' a good answer? LOL tbh, it never really came to my mind at first because I didn't have to do more than 3 attempts on any given maps, because if it would have come down to an insane amount of luck I probably would have looked at items of that kind to make my life a little easier.
@@kratosmvn_ that is a valid answer LOL!!
You did good without it too!
These videos remind me of jrose videos of Pokémon solo runs and they get good views. Keep it up these videos can do very good 👍 also making a rank list as you do more characters would be cool
Jrose was definitely and inspiration in how I make these videos! haha
Is he judging them on IRL time or game time? Cool series im all here for this
I'm a judging them on in game time because sometimes I have to do these in multiple sittings so it's hard to track IRL time correctly. I'm glad you're enjoying the series.
Not gonna lie, I got nervous when you mentioned making Ross anything but a berserker. Glad to see you stayed in the light
I would never cross to the Darkside as such. lol
Ross critting Formortiis to end the run is 100% how this was going to end lol
Most on brand Ross moment
AI have different priorities, some will prioritize accuracy and some prioritize Damage, However there is a "standard" AI that tries to find the best of both worlds and will engage in battle even if it's a losing battle. NPC green units actually also have different AI as well.
Ohh, very interesting thanks for the clarification.
5:00 that soldier can attack or move, but never both. There are some enemies in sacred stones who have this AI. I believe there is a revenant reinforcement in the top left of the artur map, the one with a sharp claw, who does this as well.
felt like playing this game again!
You should it's great!
I'll never forget the time I grinded my entire army just for my Ross to double crit fomortiis with garm. Tis wild
Ross living up to the moto of Ross the Boss!
Some investment in pure waters might help some of these res-deficient units for these solo runs
Yep you're right however I keep forgetting about pure waters lol
I'd love to see Tana, Francis or Amelia. Those were always my three favorite units in SS. Lute too!
All great units I can't wait to give a whirl to!
5:10 > Soldier AI
Hes set to "Chance to Attack 100" and "Wait 1 Turn then move to enemy"
I guess the lethal attack AI overrides that wait 1 turn to move.
We need a magic playthrough next. I vote Artur.
Arthur is an intriguing one I'd like to try soon!
This is my german shepard: *Ross makes axe noises*
😂😂😂
Your commentary is good, whotever character you're gonna play next is gonna be good
Thank you I appreciate the kind words!