Baltimore was the huge favorite..super stacked team…every media person said so..and had reason to based on what Ravens did all season..ravens was mopping all the good teams this year…all of the sudden now that chiefs won, the media wants to act like they didn’t have that stance
To be fair, Ravens could (should?) have won. They simply self destructed with all those penalties. That loss is all on Harbaugh coaching an ill-disciplined team.
@@ArthurDentZaphodBeeb But Ravens has been lacking "discipline" for years. As dallas- rams- eagles- because THIER stragedies to win games is to purposely 'hurt certain players AND brag about it at same time. Go NINERs!! 🏆💥💥
Hoodie Jones!!! man this bout to be the best podcast out!! he is the most unbiased OUT!!! He stay putting Shady in his place!! then Shady always go off pouting, saying he's not saying anything anymore
I love James's takes. You 2 together going to do well. I love that your son is part of your dream. Son, keep working on your dreams. Take full advantage of this opportunity. I expect to see you doing this years from now. Love your play Auntie!❤
It’s actually Kobe vs LeBron. They try to erase Kobe from history when he has the talent and the rings. Brady didn’t put up in all this work to plant himself as the greatest to say someone that doesn’t have as many or close to it can be greater.
No tries to erase Kobe from history. If anything, he gets all the praise and adulation that he deserves, plus some. The issue with Kobe is that his fans tries to build a case for him that isn't there, especially with Lebron. Lebron is the more accomplished player, but Kobe fans will still say Lebron isn't better
@@tbjb009 that’s cap. Bron not even the best from my generation (91-now). Tim Duncan and Kobe Bryant are the only two since, Jordan won his last, that have won the most championships along with having the stats. Duncan is 5/6 in chips & beat Bron 2/3 times. Kobe is 5/7 & almost did the same thing without Shaq that he did with him, 3 peat. Shaq is the 3rd greatest in my generation, so how is LeBron first or second in history when he’s not the best in mine. Don’t bring up a scoring record because no one mentioned that record and Kareem had it for 40 years, now all of a sudden it matters? He’s definitely not better than Kareem so that already put him at 6 cus he not better than any of those guys I named in this text.
Key admits he's totally biased against late-draft picks. That he was #1 and Purdy is Mr Irrelevant, he simply can't admit that the experts don't know what they talk about wrt finding talent.
I disagree, I’m a niner fan and I’m black, huge Purdy supporter, I think both Keyshawn and Jones gave him props, especially Jones. I always knew Purdy wasn’t a system game watching every single niner game for the last 20 years, they just seein it now. Ik Purdys not a system qb like Jimmy G, but he also hasn’t been in the league long enough to be above other qbs, I disagree with Hurts being there too tho, he has even more talent offensively and doesn’t put up numbers. Trevor Lawrence either cause dude hasn’t done anything even tho I realize he has less talent on his team, he hasn’t shown he’s better or worst than Purdy so I kinda put ‘em in the same league. I think Purdys a great qb, but I think there’s only 4 elite guys in the nfl. Only Mahomes who’s in a league of his own, Burrow who’s probably the best passing qb in the nfl rn, and Lamar who’s a mid passing qb, but who’s rushing/scrambling is elite enough that it would translate well to any team and Josh Allen who’s great at rushing, strong accurate arm, but is a poor decision maker a lot of times, so he’s more hit or miss
Key, keep shining MAN, I have respect for u on undisputed, u balance the SHOW OUT MAN NOT LIE, i listen to you man, and im OLDER THEN you bruh, with alot learned life lessons, bruh keep it going, when we around alot of positive people, were gonna keep that same energy, PEEP GAME, U BALANCE THE SHOW OUT
Yeah tey were just saying names. Did Goff scramble and bail out his team? Did Love, who is a 4 year VET. Dak...Are you serious. Brock beat every single playoff team in the NFC this year. Clown show I tell you.
@@byronsmith3152it's unreal at this point. I just started laughing about it after watching some of his highlights hanging in the pocket - taking huge hits and deliver dimes 😂😂
Most egregious mention is Dak. Have they not seen enough to know Dak can't get it done in the playoffs. Dude shrinks in the biggest games and pads his stats on garbage team. If you need to beat a trash team for sure, Dak is your guy.
I hate this debate, but I love watching it. Half of Brady’s career was in a different era. I hate comparing different eras in a game that changes so much. The NBA has had maybe two true paradigm shifts. The NFL has had a bunch. Mahomes will never get crushed the way guys could hit the QB back in the 2000s. You can be a really different player when you are confident that you won’t get your ribs broken if you don’t throw it fast enough, because guys, for better or worse, can’t demolish the QB. The Brady-rule, ironically, started the trend of protecting QBs more and more. You can get more yards and completions because DBs and LBs can’t come wreck the WRs the way they once did. Enjoy them both, because there may never be another player like Mahomes, and we may never get another guy who won like Brady did.
You keep talking about the o line in the superbowl he lost to brady. Well the o line was good enough to get them to the superbowl!!! He lost to a better team and brady!! Twice too
Correct, Brady and the Pats beat Mahomes and his team when they were fully healthy in the 2018 AFCCG, in a shoot out. Brady won again with the Bucs scoring in the 30s and Mahomes did not even score 10.
@@ReneParada Whomp, Whomp, Whomp. Brady fans are getting desperate. You point out that the 2018 team was fully healthy, but you don't comment on the Chiefs' injured O-line in SB55. 🤣🤣🤣
I've always agreed with that. Jordan was a guy who dominated a game and you noticed everything he did. Lebron can dominate a game and you are shocked at his stat line after the game because you didn't even notice it.
Here's the truth (IMO) There's ELITE TALENT: Mahomes, Josh, Lamar, Staffard, Burrow, Stroud, Lawrence. There's ELITE PRODUCTION: Mahomes, Josh, Lamar, Staffard, Burrow, Purdy, Stroud, Herbert. There's ELITE COMBO: Mahomes, Josh. TO HAVE: Dak & Geoff in the top 10 is insane!!! How the media keeps allowing TALENT to fail upwards, but HARDWORK gotta prove themselves. Bruh......How Keyshawn can utter the name Dak Prescott as a top10 QB (after MULTIPLE SEASONS OF COLLAPSES) is truly a horrible take.
Dead wrong narratives about Mahomes not having awful plays in the playoffs - especially in the Super Bowl loss. Also, Brady’s first three super bowls weren’t just about the defense. The second one was a shoot out - go ask Tedy Bruschi, the defense couldn’t stop Carolina in the second half.
Actually, if you watch the tape, Mahomes was incredible in the SB loss against the Bucs. He had no O-line. Mahomes ran around for 500 yards before passing. Superhuman effort to try and make a game out of it against the Bucs top-rated defense (which is why Brady went there)
How can they even mention Dak, trevor, Herbert in same level as Brock. If Brock win SB, he is only behind Patrick, Rodger, Stafford and ahead Hurts, Burrow, Lamar, Josh, jared.
K&J just be stuck on details but the whole point of football is to win Superbowls not details or categories,its an excuse to have something to talk about in a talk show
Have a look at Fran Tarkenton highlights. Tarkenton was doing Mahomes like things before Mahomes was a thought. Tarkenton finished his career with all the passing records. Tarkenton lost al his Super Bowls. That's why he isn't remembered. Bt no matter what anyone says, it takes a team to win the Super Bowl, not just a QB. Also, Tarkenton played in an era when the QB could be blown up. Mahomes abuses they modern rules that the QB can't be touched. I thin even in Brady's early career the QB wasn't wearing a dress like they do today. I personally get irritated at how Mahone swill go right up to the last second before he goes down to draw a flag. I think the NFL needs to change the rule. If the QB runs he is fair game. If the QB wants to "give himself up" he has to do it early, not the very last second so the defender can't stop himself. Let's see how good Mahomes is after he gets clobbered the way Staubach when he ran and there is no penalty flag. Change the rule and you'll see Mahomes not be as dominant.
Yup especially with the you don’t need the same number of rings. It;s not a contentious take at all. Right? Right.Brady does not get his dues because his biggest asset were his intangibles not his athleticism.
30:52 I think that is an unfair challenge for a second-year player . That's how you know it's good when they have to put him in hypothetical situations that involved elite players with much more experience.
That's because both have agendas. Also why does Keyshawn keep getting show chances when most of his projects fail? Why not give a chance to Sherman that keeps it real, no agendas?
@@princecheck11 the race based agenda. He can't be objective like other analysts. This comes from before this show. Everyone remembers his asinine takes on ESPN KJM.
@@princecheck11 who mentioned Mahomes? It has nothing to do with Mahomes. Mahomes is the undisputed best player, no one comes close. I'm saying that Keyshawn can't be objective most of the time because he always protects the brothers. His Jokic takes on KJM were terribly bad and he ended up with the pie in the face after seeing him sweep the Lakers and then win the chip. His bball takes are horrible tbf, you just need to check the comments of undisputed/KJM videos. Now Brock Purdy, he can't give him credit. He didn't have the same energy criticizing Lamar Jackson after another PO failure like he criticizes or doubts Purdy. And Lamar scrutiny and standards should be higher because hes supposedly the best player and soon MVP. Sherman criticizes fairly and without double standards. He doesn't care if it's black or white. He keeps it real according to football production and very rarely he's wrong.
It’s called “All Facts No Brakes” but Key just has opinions based on experience and hypotheticals. However Jones is solid. Also, two dropped passes by Reynolds had no effect?
I will be happy when a NFL Commissioner comes along and create a MVP award for the best defense in the season, MVP award for best offense in a season, MVP award for best defensive player in the season, best running back in the season etc..the way the NFL is setup now only the quarterback and the Coach get the accolades not very fair
I was with them with the Purdy talk until the top 10/can this QB make a bad team good part? Dak, Jared, Herbert? Hurts? When have they shown they can take a terrible team and make them good?
My question is what’s a game manager? Cam said Tom Brady was the ultimate game manager? Is it just a qb that doesn’t rush the ball? Who wants a non game manager like Cam and Lamar if you don’t win a sb?
Somebody tell me what are the things any of these QB's including mahomes did this season that Brock purdy hasn't what exactly makes them better not who they are but what did they produce and how did they produce it that makes them better cuz I still haven't heard anything other than " he's not mahomes or Lamar or Allen " please some one inform me because apparently my eyes are lying to me and all the pundits are trying to change that 😂
That's bad when they have to lower the bar for Pat😂 my question is, what great player besides Rod did Brady have on those Superbowl runs. Pat won against hurts and Jimmy g WOW,
@@chadh.johnson3550 point is, i dont think people should be able to claim best player on someone theyve personally never seen. Analytics are awesome but they DO NOT tell the entire story and sometimes doesnt even get close 2 telling the entire story. Doesn’t factor is team, cosches, coaching changes etc. much the same reason Wilt Chamberlin isnt considered the best basketball player.. different time, different game 10000%
@@josecardoza5793coming from a person who believes purdy isn’t an elite quarterback he’s better than Herbert due to the fact they both have the same amount of talent around them and purdy is actually performing and winning
@@Icanthearyouatall I get that point but in reality Herbert hasn’t played with Mike and Keenan for a lot of the games, he actually has a better winning % when Mike plays. Plus our defense never been as good as niners but I get the argument. Coaching matters look the lions coach cost them the game
Purdy over Dak, Hurts, Goff and Lawrence. Herbert is way better than Purdy. Next year I think he will be in the MVP decisions. Without the yeah but like with Purdy.
I like how they say can Brock go to Carolina and turn them around then name a bunch of QBs that aren't even good or winning on their current teams lol.
Oh, you mean the pass that was also a defensive pass interference for the defender to even get in position to have a chance. Would have been first and goal on the 5 lol
Brock Purdy is in the unfortunate situation of being the last pick in a very flawed draft system and a lot of players, coaches, and experts feel that he shouldn't be there and I'm happy for him that he's confident enough to not allow that negativity affect him..
fun fact: Terry Bradshaw said he was 7 yrs old when he decided he would be a pro football player, he was a lil hawkeye fan...drafted first in the first round...spent his entire career wearing Hawkeye colors. Did God give the boy a dream or what? Not cliche for TB12(the original) to say ''Livin the dream". I love Lamar I would love to see him force the NFL to make the game old school bangin football.
Pretty sure James Jones said before the season the Chiefs wouldn't make the playoffs, said they were going to lose to the Chargers, Raiders, and Broncos... so I could care less what this man thinks about my Chiefs.
As a Niners fan, we are NOT saying Brock is elite. We are NOT putting him in any kind of GOAT debate. Let him win a few SBs, get a few more years in the league, then the conversations might be worth entertaining. James was right, Jimmy G was a game manager. Defense carried the team to the SB that year. When the team got behind, Jimmy G couldn't make the plays that Brock can. And the reason we have a problem with the term "game manager' as it relates to Brock Purdy is because we know why people are labeling him as that. He does just enough to win the game. No, Brock does that and MORE. He's the game changer that SF has been needing for a LONG time. Brock has earned the respect by BEATING some of those guys you were naming as top 10 in the league: Stafford, Dak, Jalen, Goff. Quit moving the goal posts on Brock Purdy when he's done what you've said he couldn't do.
Tom will always be the GOAT bc HE created the offense he ran. Mahomes doesnt do that, nor will he have 2 as long as he has Big Red. He has THE BEST coach in the league.
Do you think the 49ers would rather have Purdy or Lamar against the Chiefs in the Super Bowl? Allen too - good call Key, maybe there is hope for you. Yeah he's top 10 - you can't name 10 Qbs Kyle would trade him for. Dak and Lawrence... Hurts 😂😂😂
Aiyuk deep ball was defensive PI. Go watch the tape. Dont care if the refs picked it up. Because if Aiyuk didn't make the catch, they would have called it.
Is Mahomes the GOAT?
No, gotta play longer.
he’s not there yet but he’s top 10 right now
No one of the goats Brady beat him, he lost so
yes
dog.. your son needs communication classes
Give Brock his respect. The man has literally climbed up from the bottom. He's earning his flowers the hard way.
Mate Jimmy G took this same team to the Super Bowl 4 years ago.
@@gage8391not the same team. Mainly not the same defense. We fans bro we know lol
Jimmy also threw the ball 8 times in a playoff game! Purdy threw almost 40 in 1!
@@gage8391that was an elite D. This is an elite offense. Not the same bro.
@@gage8391plus, Jimmy G. only passed the ball 8 times in the NFC Championship game. 😅🤣
I just love the segment at the end with you and your son! That's a special moment right there, man, and I'm glad we got to see it.
Baltimore was the huge favorite..super stacked team…every media person said so..and had reason to based on what Ravens did all season..ravens was mopping all the good teams this year…all of the sudden now that chiefs won, the media wants to act like they didn’t have that stance
To be fair, Ravens could (should?) have won. They simply self destructed with all those penalties. That loss is all on Harbaugh coaching an ill-disciplined team.
@@ArthurDentZaphodBeeb
But Ravens has been lacking "discipline" for years. As dallas- rams- eagles- because THIER stragedies to win games is to purposely 'hurt certain players AND brag about it at same time.
Go NINERs!! 🏆💥💥
Where did u get huge favorite?😂they were a field goal favorite
He didnt say las vegas. He said the media had written the chiefs off
No it's on "mvp" Lamar. If Brock had such a bad game EVERY hater would be after him.@@ArthurDentZaphodBeeb
Great point Keyshawn and James on Lamar not being himself. That is why it was awesome to hear Mike Vick advised CJ Stroud to always be himself.
Greatest player the Chiefs ever fielded had his career cut short. RIP Derrick Thomas. #SB584DT58
This is the podcast we didnt know we needed but we definitely needed!!!!
Great conversation
Hoodie Jones!!! man this bout to be the best podcast out!! he is the most unbiased OUT!!! He stay putting Shady in his place!! then Shady always go off pouting, saying he's not saying anything anymore
Facts, key word "unbiased"
All day
He's definitely biased because he was rooting for his Packers to beat the 49ers
he definitely biased, just look at how he act when he talk anything niners. Bro be hating cause they beat both his cowboys and packers😂
@@Pistons2024 he was talking about key
KEY WORKING AS USUAL - WE SEE U!
Good episode! I like James' commentary.
yes he knows ball
I agree never bet against Patt!! Great show 🎉🎉🎉
Just pausing this halfway through. You two dudes are on business with your perspective, Bravo,
Keyshawn johnson and James jones are a beast and they both won a superbowl
I love James's takes. You 2 together going to do well.
I love that your son is part of your dream. Son, keep working on your dreams. Take full advantage of this opportunity. I expect to see you doing this years from now.
Love your play Auntie!❤
It’s actually Kobe vs LeBron. They try to erase Kobe from history when he has the talent and the rings. Brady didn’t put up in all this work to plant himself as the greatest to say someone that doesn’t have as many or close to it can be greater.
No tries to erase Kobe from history. If anything, he gets all the praise and adulation that he deserves, plus some.
The issue with Kobe is that his fans tries to build a case for him that isn't there, especially with Lebron. Lebron is the more accomplished player, but Kobe fans will still say Lebron isn't better
@@tbjb009 that’s cap. Bron not even the best from my generation (91-now). Tim Duncan and Kobe Bryant are the only two since, Jordan won his last, that have won the most championships along with having the stats. Duncan is 5/6 in chips & beat Bron 2/3 times. Kobe is 5/7 & almost did the same thing without Shaq that he did with him, 3 peat. Shaq is the 3rd greatest in my generation, so how is LeBron first or second in history when he’s not the best in mine.
Don’t bring up a scoring record because no one mentioned that record and Kareem had it for 40 years, now all of a sudden it matters? He’s definitely not better than Kareem so that already put him at 6 cus he not better than any of those guys I named in this text.
Jared Goff Top 10? C’mon man
Noodle arm Goff is not top 10. 😆😅
Keyshawn is a certified BCBrock Purdy hater. If Brock was black he'd be hyping him up and praising him like he does Lamar. Fact! 💯!!!!
That goes with a lot of these so called analyst
Key admits he's totally biased against late-draft picks. That he was #1 and Purdy is Mr Irrelevant, he simply can't admit that the experts don't know what they talk about wrt finding talent.
I disagree, I’m a niner fan and I’m black, huge Purdy supporter, I think both Keyshawn and Jones gave him props, especially Jones. I always knew Purdy wasn’t a system game watching every single niner game for the last 20 years, they just seein it now. Ik Purdys not a system qb like Jimmy G, but he also hasn’t been in the league long enough to be above other qbs, I disagree with Hurts being there too tho, he has even more talent offensively and doesn’t put up numbers. Trevor Lawrence either cause dude hasn’t done anything even tho I realize he has less talent on his team, he hasn’t shown he’s better or worst than Purdy so I kinda put ‘em in the same league. I think Purdys a great qb, but I think there’s only 4 elite guys in the nfl. Only Mahomes who’s in a league of his own, Burrow who’s probably the best passing qb in the nfl rn, and Lamar who’s a mid passing qb, but who’s rushing/scrambling is elite enough that it would translate well to any team and Josh Allen who’s great at rushing, strong accurate arm, but is a poor decision maker a lot of times, so he’s more hit or miss
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You calling Keyshawn racist?
you guys are SPOT ON... i admire the both of you..not just for your opinions but also for your achievements.. btw ya both ROCKED...
Key, keep shining MAN, I have respect for u on undisputed, u balance the SHOW OUT MAN NOT LIE, i listen to you man, and im OLDER THEN you bruh, with alot learned life lessons, bruh keep it going, when we around alot of positive people, were gonna keep that same energy, PEEP GAME, U BALANCE THE SHOW OUT
I’m subscribing I love Keyshawn commentary on sports! Very fair and not bias ❤
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Love the show Key big fan of yours down in Texas will definitely continue to watch !!!!
All these qbs that yall are saying better than Brock Purdy are home crying right now.
Yeah tey were just saying names. Did Goff scramble and bail out his team? Did Love, who is a 4 year VET. Dak...Are you serious. Brock beat every single playoff team in the NFC this year. Clown show I tell you.
Brock and the Niners came back from 17… Lamar couldn’t even come back from 7… FACTS!
@@byronsmith3152 🎯
@@byronsmith3152it's unreal at this point. I just started laughing about it after watching some of his highlights hanging in the pocket - taking huge hits and deliver dimes 😂😂
Most egregious mention is Dak. Have they not seen enough to know Dak can't get it done in the playoffs. Dude shrinks in the biggest games and pads his stats on garbage team. If you need to beat a trash team for sure, Dak is your guy.
Saints fan here.I been working. Can't Guard Mike Unc Key..Salute 💯
Bout time you got a channel Key! Your the best
3:15 😂that picture is pretty funny
“Them guys can’t play dead in a cowboy movie” is a bar, Keyshawn.
I heard it years ago from bart scott. Def a bar
That bar has been passed down for the past 2 decades lol. It’s still 🔥
I hate this debate, but I love watching it. Half of Brady’s career was in a different era. I hate comparing different eras in a game that changes so much. The NBA has had maybe two true paradigm shifts. The NFL has had a bunch.
Mahomes will never get crushed the way guys could hit the QB back in the 2000s.
You can be a really different player when you are confident that you won’t get your ribs broken if you don’t throw it fast enough, because guys, for better or worse, can’t demolish the QB.
The Brady-rule, ironically, started the trend of protecting QBs more and more.
You can get more yards and completions because DBs and LBs can’t come wreck the WRs the way they once did.
Enjoy them both, because there may never be another player like Mahomes, and we may never get another guy who won like Brady did.
People tends to ignore that fact.
These two together is special.
Idk what they smoking on. Never in my life has 4 been more than 7. 😂 That's just projection as well. Mahomes has only 2 rn.
You keep talking about the o line in the superbowl he lost to brady. Well the o line was good enough to get them to the superbowl!!! He lost to a better team and brady!! Twice too
Correct, Brady and the Pats beat Mahomes and his team when they were fully healthy in the 2018 AFCCG, in a shoot out. Brady won again with the Bucs scoring in the 30s and Mahomes did not even score 10.
@@ReneParada Whomp, Whomp, Whomp. Brady fans are getting desperate. You point out that the 2018 team was fully healthy, but you don't comment on the Chiefs' injured O-line in SB55. 🤣🤣🤣
Not top 10 but shredded at least 5 of those QB listed 😂
herbert/Dak/ Geoff over Brock lmao... Trevor ? lmao
I was thinking Hurts too lol. Trevor, Dak and Goff he is definitely better than. Lol
These clowns really comparing Brock Purdy to Trent Dilfer & Brad Johnson. Unbelievable. Watch the film.
Yes sir KJ and JJ
So basically what James Jones is saying is that MJs game is aesthetically pleasing and lebrons is not lol
I've always agreed with that. Jordan was a guy who dominated a game and you noticed everything he did. Lebron can dominate a game and you are shocked at his stat line after the game because you didn't even notice it.
And he would be correct.
Love your channel
Here's the truth (IMO)
There's ELITE TALENT: Mahomes, Josh, Lamar, Staffard, Burrow, Stroud, Lawrence.
There's ELITE PRODUCTION: Mahomes, Josh, Lamar, Staffard, Burrow, Purdy, Stroud, Herbert.
There's ELITE COMBO: Mahomes, Josh.
TO HAVE: Dak & Geoff in the top 10 is insane!!! How the media keeps allowing TALENT to fail upwards, but HARDWORK gotta prove themselves. Bruh......How Keyshawn can utter the name Dak Prescott as a top10 QB (after MULTIPLE SEASONS OF COLLAPSES) is truly a horrible take.
SPEAK & Undisputed together I need this🥳
Keyshawn and JJ is honestly the next duo for me
Nice intro to all facts no brakes.
Skip did my boy dirty lmao talking about undisputed presents
Dead wrong narratives about Mahomes not having awful plays in the playoffs - especially in the Super Bowl loss. Also, Brady’s first three super bowls weren’t just about the defense. The second one was a shoot out - go ask Tedy Bruschi, the defense couldn’t stop Carolina in the second half.
Actually, if you watch the tape, Mahomes was incredible in the SB loss against the Bucs. He had no O-line. Mahomes ran around for 500 yards before passing. Superhuman effort to try and make a game out of it against the Bucs top-rated defense (which is why Brady went there)
James nailed the lebron-mike to mahomes-brady comparison
Finally!!! Glad you got your own podcast. Been a fan since your days at ESPN 710.
How can they even mention Dak, trevor, Herbert in same level as Brock. If Brock win SB, he is only behind Patrick, Rodger, Stafford and ahead Hurts, Burrow, Lamar, Josh, jared.
K&J just be stuck on details but the whole point of football is to win Superbowls not details or categories,its an excuse to have something to talk about in a talk show
Bout time somebody said it... NICK WRIGHT SMOKING DOPE...😂😂😂
Have a look at Fran Tarkenton highlights. Tarkenton was doing Mahomes like things before Mahomes was a thought. Tarkenton finished his career with all the passing records. Tarkenton lost al his Super Bowls. That's why he isn't remembered. Bt no matter what anyone says, it takes a team to win the Super Bowl, not just a QB.
Also, Tarkenton played in an era when the QB could be blown up. Mahomes abuses they modern rules that the QB can't be touched. I thin even in Brady's early career the QB wasn't wearing a dress like they do today.
I personally get irritated at how Mahone swill go right up to the last second before he goes down to draw a flag. I think the NFL needs to change the rule. If the QB runs he is fair game. If the QB wants to "give himself up" he has to do it early, not the very last second so the defender can't stop himself.
Let's see how good Mahomes is after he gets clobbered the way Staubach when he ran and there is no penalty flag. Change the rule and you'll see Mahomes not be as dominant.
James Jones is the truest analyst
Yup especially with the you don’t need the same number of rings. It;s not a contentious take at all. Right? Right.Brady does not get his dues because his biggest asset were his intangibles not his athleticism.
THE GAME RULE CHANGES EFFECT THE ERA THE 🐐 PLAYS IN !
Great Show DDP
5 players vs 22 players (aka starters) is not the same. Jordan is the GOAT.
Detroit alley cats, it's time to eat ....your coach's knee caps 😂😂😂😂😂
30:52 I think that is an unfair challenge for a second-year player . That's how you know it's good when they have to put him in hypothetical situations that involved elite players with much more experience.
Keyshawn is the Kendrick Perkins of the NFL analysis. He talks way too much with his heart and not in fact
That's because both have agendas. Also why does Keyshawn keep getting show chances when most of his projects fail? Why not give a chance to Sherman that keeps it real, no agendas?
@@denk664what agenda??
@@princecheck11 the race based agenda. He can't be objective like other analysts. This comes from before this show. Everyone remembers his asinine takes on ESPN KJM.
@@denk664 what raced based patrick mahomes is black too wth u talking about? yall prejudice showing
@@princecheck11 who mentioned Mahomes? It has nothing to do with Mahomes. Mahomes is the undisputed best player, no one comes close. I'm saying that Keyshawn can't be objective most of the time because he always protects the brothers. His Jokic takes on KJM were terribly bad and he ended up with the pie in the face after seeing him sweep the Lakers and then win the chip. His bball takes are horrible tbf, you just need to check the comments of undisputed/KJM videos. Now Brock Purdy, he can't give him credit. He didn't have the same energy criticizing Lamar Jackson after another PO failure like he criticizes or doubts Purdy. And Lamar scrutiny and standards should be higher because hes supposedly the best player and soon MVP. Sherman criticizes fairly and without double standards. He doesn't care if it's black or white. He keeps it real according to football production and very rarely he's wrong.
James slept on as a analyst… u need to make him a regular after gms
Yeah he's great at it, he deserves to be on a better show than Speak.
C@ 3:46 Tom Brady is the Tom Brady of football let's stop saying he's the Michael Jordan of football please give that man his own s#it please
I had James joke on my fantasy team in 2012 and he was my biggest scorer
Jones speaking facts!
Something happened to smart coaching running the clock out for a win. Teams lose games a lot now because of not doing this.
How many QBs going to Carolina and winning with the current roster? Y’all acting like 25-30 QBs going to Carolina and winning 😂
They just looking for another reason to not give purdy credit.
GREAT POINT Key about Peyton Manning💪🏾✊🏿
Taysom plays QB, TE, WR, and running back. I bet if you need a edge rusher he might could do that too.
Great content keep it up!
C@ 7:36 Mahomes had a chance to beat the greatest however he fell like everyone else to the let's stop the disrespect of Mr Tom Brady again Mr Collin
GOAT is not affirmative action bro. Show me the hardware, PERIOD 😢
Them guys played in the NFC, if it was the AFC, you gotta say Ray Lewis and/or Ed Reed
It’s called “All Facts No Brakes” but Key just has opinions based on experience and hypotheticals. However Jones is solid. Also, two dropped passes by Reynolds had no effect?
Well both of those drops came on 4th down, that's the Karma for not kicking it, each drop cost the lions 3 points each
@@tpa617 there’s karma for going for it? Even if the QB hits the throw?
@@tpa617 If you said karma was because Gardner-Johnson waved goodbye too early I’d understand
I see ya Key 💪💪
I love the double standard. I do appreciate when they give breaks and passes for QBs like Lamar and Mahomes. They refuse to give to Brock.
I will be happy when a NFL Commissioner comes along and create a MVP award for the best defense in the season, MVP award for best offense in a season, MVP award for best defensive player in the season, best running back in the season etc..the way the NFL is setup now only the quarterback and the Coach get the accolades not very fair
I was with them with the Purdy talk until the top 10/can this QB make a bad team good part?
Dak, Jared, Herbert? Hurts? When have they shown they can take a terrible team and make them good?
My question is what’s a game manager? Cam said Tom Brady was the ultimate game manager? Is it just a qb that doesn’t rush the ball? Who wants a non game manager like Cam and Lamar if you don’t win a sb?
Somebody tell me what are the things any of these QB's including mahomes did this season that Brock purdy hasn't what exactly makes them better not who they are but what did they produce and how did they produce it that makes them better cuz I still haven't heard anything other than " he's not mahomes or Lamar or Allen " please some one inform me because apparently my eyes are lying to me and all the pundits are trying to change that 😂
I like the 70s color palette
That's bad when they have to lower the bar for Pat😂 my question is, what great player besides Rod did Brady have on those Superbowl runs. Pat won against hurts and Jimmy g WOW,
People say Jim Browns the best RB of all time cause they heard someone say it.. 98% of the people saying hes the best, never even seen the dude play.
Just compare his YPC to NFL history, not to mention his YPG.
@@chadh.johnson3550 that isn't my point
@@GetnBrains Please forgive my ignorance. What was it then?
@@chadh.johnson3550 point is, i dont think people should be able to claim best player on someone theyve personally never seen. Analytics are awesome but they DO NOT tell the entire story and sometimes doesnt even get close 2 telling the entire story. Doesn’t factor is team, cosches, coaching changes etc. much the same reason Wilt Chamberlin isnt considered the best basketball player.. different time, different game 10000%
30:40 Dak? DAK?? DAAAAAAAK??????
Mahomes is the pending GOAT
Keyshawn I have to ask, I’m a Charger fan Purdy or Herbert?
Purdy all day why is this even a question?
@@millwright1986 There’s no way wait we finally have a coach how purdy does
@@josecardoza5793coming from a person who believes purdy isn’t an elite quarterback he’s better than Herbert due to the fact they both have the same amount of talent around them and purdy is actually performing and winning
@@Icanthearyouatall I get that point but in reality Herbert hasn’t played with Mike and Keenan for a lot of the games, he actually has a better winning % when Mike plays. Plus our defense never been as good as niners but I get the argument. Coaching matters look the lions coach cost them the game
Purdy over Dak, Hurts, Goff and Lawrence. Herbert is way better than Purdy. Next year I think he will be in the MVP decisions. Without the yeah but like with Purdy.
I like how they say can Brock go to Carolina and turn them around then name a bunch of QBs that aren't even good or winning on their current teams lol.
Oh, you mean the pass that was also a defensive pass interference for the defender to even get in position to have a chance. Would have been first and goal on the 5 lol
"noting Mahomes can do to pass Brady?" .. really hope that's not what he meant lol
Good show
What's the diff between Brady when he had Troy Brown as his best receiver vs Brock?
Why doesn’t John Harbaugh get that same smoke? The offensive game plan was terrible. Look at the games
Brock Purdy is in the unfortunate situation of being the last pick in a very flawed draft system and a lot of players, coaches, and experts feel that he shouldn't be there and I'm happy for him that he's confident enough to not allow that negativity affect him..
fun fact: Terry Bradshaw said he was 7 yrs old when he decided he would be a pro football player, he was a lil hawkeye fan...drafted first in the first round...spent his entire career wearing Hawkeye colors. Did God give the boy a dream or what? Not cliche for TB12(the original) to say ''Livin the dream". I love Lamar I would love to see him force the NFL to make the game old school bangin football.
It does look different but Tom was the best at what he does with the eyeball test. The best pocket presence ever, while Patty is an innovator.
Who's saying Lamar needs to throw more? I'd like to see him run on 30 percent of their plays.
I looked different because they way the defense cover now they can’t play defense how they did b4
Fa real bro Mahommes could not beat Raiders w dey man ta man
Pretty sure James Jones said before the season the Chiefs wouldn't make the playoffs, said they were going to lose to the Chargers, Raiders, and Broncos... so I could care less what this man thinks about my Chiefs.
As a Niners fan, we are NOT saying Brock is elite. We are NOT putting him in any kind of GOAT debate. Let him win a few SBs, get a few more years in the league, then the conversations might be worth entertaining. James was right, Jimmy G was a game manager. Defense carried the team to the SB that year. When the team got behind, Jimmy G couldn't make the plays that Brock can. And the reason we have a problem with the term "game manager' as it relates to Brock Purdy is because we know why people are labeling him as that. He does just enough to win the game. No, Brock does that and MORE. He's the game changer that SF has been needing for a LONG time. Brock has earned the respect by BEATING some of those guys you were naming as top 10 in the league: Stafford, Dak, Jalen, Goff. Quit moving the goal posts on Brock Purdy when he's done what you've said he couldn't do.
Tom will always be the GOAT bc HE created the offense he ran. Mahomes doesnt do that, nor will he have 2 as long as he has Big Red. He has THE BEST coach in the league.
Get that boy a laptop...!
49ers should be the clear underdogs in this Superbowl
Do you think the 49ers would rather have Purdy or Lamar against the Chiefs in the Super Bowl? Allen too - good call Key, maybe there is hope for you. Yeah he's top 10 - you can't name 10 Qbs Kyle would trade him for. Dak and Lawrence... Hurts 😂😂😂
Aiyuk deep ball was defensive PI. Go watch the tape. Dont care if the refs picked it up. Because if Aiyuk didn't make the catch, they would have called it.
Yall on to something !