"Night of the Doctor", frankly, should have been a full episode, allowing the 'older' Paul McGann to show his skills as the Doctor, building out the Time War story further and setting up the ending with him trying to save Cass and crashing on Karn to regenerate.
@@user-tz7zr4fr4j No, the War Doctor came before Eccleston - in the internal chronology at least - hence the fact that the 8th Doctor was the one who just regenerated into him. Or do you mean IRL, in which case the War Doctor character was created after the 11th
@@peterstangl8295 the War Doctor Begins series, so far, is fantastic. I love how the lore of this character just grows and expands in such creative directions and the care given to nurturing such a legacy. It is brilliant.
Excellent work Oliver! The mixing of footage from the show and Hurt's early work, while not completely seamless, is remarkably good. And the appearance of Rassilon at the end was a nice touch.
Wow, nice touch using Timothy Dalton's role as Julius Caesar as Rassilon there at the tail end. And congratulations for the extended version of the regeneration, if only John Hurt were still alive to appreciate it like we all do!
When we see Rassilon in The End of Time and Hell Bent, he's in charge of Gallifrey. It's pretty cool to see him as a soldier here because it implies that he fought on the front lines before he became President. Perhaps he and the Doctor even fought side by side, which would be an interesting contrast to their distain for each other in The End of Time and Hell Bent. It's unfortunate that we'll never see John Hurt and Timothy Dalton onscreen together.
@@tomnorton4277 rassilon is actually an ancient founding father of Gallifrey resurrected by the Time Lords, he’s a mythical being in Classic Who, before he was ressurrected
@@colemacgrath2005 In Classic Who, Rassilon had accepted the inevitability of death and even used it to teach Borusa a lesson. I like to think that, in Rassilon's timeline, that took place AFTER the Time War. It's inconsistent with his terror of death in The End of Time but this is a time travel show. If Classic Rassilon was later in the timeline, after maturing and embracing the fact that death comes for everybody, it keeps the character consistent.
This video definitely deserves more views mate, fantastic job at editing..the dialogue sounded like something that could have featured on the original minisode!
They should get Pierce Brosnan to play Rassilon and then he sees the Tennant era incarnation in a flashback and says "That's twice I used to have that face."
Man, I had to add my two pence here. This is such great work! If only the Beeb had the time (and the rights) to add these really nice little touches. Really nice idea to include those bits of him using earlier dialogue. I will say though, those earlier shots and the clearer view of his face at the start would have been perfect just by themselves.
When you've seen such incredible editing by people like Babelcolour, Kelvington and Farmergeddon71, you think you've seen it all... Never been so happy to be proven wrong.
If only the 8th Doctor was given his own series. McGann still looks young enough to play him. WOuld be better the the drivel we've had with the last two seasons.
Don't really get the inclusion of Rassilon at the end but other than that the integration here is some of the best I've ever seen. Getting footage from the exact film the face shot actually came from and making it work so well, not just visually but making the dialogue line up really well as well. It's masterfully done.
When I clicked play on that short, I was thrilled and amazed to see the full fledged version of Paul McGann's Doctor, that I had been following through the audio adventures and had come to love as 'My' Doctor, given such a well written, character appropriate and resonant tie back into cannon. What I just watched gave me the that same thrill. By taking an amazing earlier performance by John Hurt, and using it's weight to balance the tone... I'm trying to sound smart just because I want you to know just how many things I appreciate in this video. If I was 10 I'd say brilliant. But for myself I say OUTSTANDING! X
Adding Timothy Dalton at the end was a nice touch. I wish he'd been available for Hell Bent because he carried a sense of power and authority that Donald Sumpter lacked. To be fair to Sumpter, the first part of Hell Bent was about Rassilon losing his authority but it would have been way more satisfying if the Doctor had kicked Dalton's incarnation off Gallifrey.
I think that the John Hurt incarnation was totally not needed as the eighth Doctor was dark enough to be the one that fought in the Time War and destroyed Gallifrey along with the Daleks in order to save the Universe.
You can clearly see where the inserted footage is edited in but I still consider this scene to be canon. The storytelling makes up for the wonky visual execution. This is a fitting tribute to both John Hurt's career and his performance as the true 9th Doctor.
John Hurt IS the proper 9th Doctor. Christopher Ecclestone is 10, David Tennant is 11, Matt Smith is 12 and Peter Capaldi is 13. I think the fanbase and the show should stop calling Hurt the War Doctor and refer to him as the 9th.
@@mattthesilent777RED What? That was confusing gibberish unless you're referring to Chinballs' Doctors, who don't count. The only part that made sense was the hypothetical part.
@@tomnorton4277 Some people name the doctors by their incarnation in the cycle - John Hurt is certainly 9 in that way but because of the regeneration in Journey's End, David Tennant is 11 and 12
@@tomnorton4277 actually they are all just the doctor the doctor the doctor the doctor the doctor the doctor the doctor the doctor the doctor the doctor the doctor the doctor the doctor the doctor the doctor and the doctor the doctor the doctor to doctor to the doctor the doctor the doctor the doctor the doctor the doctor the doctor the doctor and the doctor
This is excellently done and must have taken hours of editing! Well done and thanks for this! As this is what I call proper full story line (they could have expanded night of the doctor a bit more like this!) but you hit the nail on the head with this! I’ve subbed and liked 👍🏼
This is really well edited. I've been wandering what the BBC and now you pulled from for the young John Hurt. I know that's him but he obviously didn't look like that when the 8th Doctor's regeneration was filmed.
"Night of the Doctor", frankly, should have been a full episode, allowing the 'older' Paul McGann to show his skills as the Doctor, building out the Time War story further and setting up the ending with him trying to save Cass and crashing on Karn to regenerate.
Yea
Definitely.
The BBC wouldn’t let Moffat use the Eighth Doctor much. I think this was about the limit.
It could do with 92-minutes added
So yeah it needs work well
Meh, it really wasn't necessary. That said, I would have absolutely loved it
Young John Hurt sounds like a mix between Jon Pertwee and Sylvester McCoy!
I know right!?
Jon and Christopher i think
It's that gruff low voice that almost sounds like his growling, I loved their voices, specially Hurts
Yes he does ❤❤❤❤
To quote his immediate successor, this was fanTAStic!
Technically he came after eccleston
@@user-tz7zr4fr4j No, the War Doctor came before Eccleston - in the internal chronology at least - hence the fact that the 8th Doctor was the one who just regenerated into him. Or do you mean IRL, in which case the War Doctor character was created after the 11th
Well done. Special points for calling him the Warrior and not the War Doctor.
I bet some groups in the time war refer to him as "the warrior" instead of the doctor.
And some probably call him The Renegade
I know!!! Why everybody call him like that?!
@@gohanmoreno7 Because in the end, even his incarnation during the War was still the Doctor, hence the name.
anothes points for Rasilon
We need a really good John Hurt impersonator so the War Doctor can live once more
Well, Big Finish just made it happen 😉
@@peterstangl8295 the War Doctor Begins series, so far, is fantastic. I love how the lore of this character just grows and expands in such creative directions and the care given to nurturing such a legacy. It is brilliant.
I really like John Hurt
Nice touch of showing him in the TM Console room, as it's said in the novelisation that's the one he's using.
Even if it doesn't make 100% sense when taking Big finish into consideration.
@@chrispy3369 well big finish is only audio so this is the next best console room
Well done! Sir John Hurt would be honoured.
Excellent work Oliver! The mixing of footage from the show and Hurt's early work, while not completely seamless, is remarkably good. And the appearance of Rassilon at the end was a nice touch.
that is canon for me
Same
Ditto
Yes, but Jodie Whittiker isn't. Or it was all a dream!
Rich Baro i hope so
@@ZACK613 Shiny Ditto
"Perhaps I can make another fight of it."
_I help where I can, I will not fight._
"..."
" *...I’ll get used to it.* "
Dang, that gave me chills.
That just sad 😥
Love the inclusion of the War Doctor's theme from the audios. Fits the regeneration surprisingly well.
this is some really impressive CGI and computer editing, you have done a fabulous job with the materials you had.
It's not CGI, it's him mixing John Hurt's previous work in Crime and Punishment (1979) with other footage.
DrXshock I'm pretty sure Henry means the regeneration parts and the parts where backgrounds are masked out and replaced
DrXshock yes it is. Most of it.
The knocking sound from the first Doctor's regeneration. That's some subtle brilliance there.
It makes sense that even for a brief time the early war doctor used the Edwardian TARDIS console room.
Wow, nice touch using Timothy Dalton's role as Julius Caesar as Rassilon there at the tail end. And congratulations for the extended version of the regeneration, if only John Hurt were still alive to appreciate it like we all do!
When we see Rassilon in The End of Time and Hell Bent, he's in charge of Gallifrey. It's pretty cool to see him as a soldier here because it implies that he fought on the front lines before he became President. Perhaps he and the Doctor even fought side by side, which would be an interesting contrast to their distain for each other in The End of Time and Hell Bent. It's unfortunate that we'll never see John Hurt and Timothy Dalton onscreen together.
@@tomnorton4277 rassilon is actually an ancient founding father of Gallifrey resurrected by the Time Lords, he’s a mythical being in Classic Who, before he was ressurrected
@@colemacgrath2005 In Classic Who, Rassilon had accepted the inevitability of death and even used it to teach Borusa a lesson. I like to think that, in Rassilon's timeline, that took place AFTER the Time War. It's inconsistent with his terror of death in The End of Time but this is a time travel show. If Classic Rassilon was later in the timeline, after maturing and embracing the fact that death comes for everybody, it keeps the character consistent.
@@tomnorton4277 I like that idea
I like how its shot like both a Nuwho and a Classic Who episode at once.
R.I.P. Sir John Hurt, We will all miss you
Hey, you did it! Nicely done. The dialogue at the end was very well edited. I liked the little Power of the Daleks sound effect in there too.
Haha, I was hoping someone would notice that sound :)
Ow, where?
@@910luk right after he regenerated. Sound effect simmilar to sonic screwdriver.
Oh, that one, yea, i was getting it was a classic who sound, but did not know it was a power of the daleks one
That’s excellent. Bravo. Far as I’m concerned, as others have said, it’s canon. Fits the bigger story perfectly.
That was AMAZING, thank you so much for making this. Head Canon accepted.
Congrats on giving the young warrior Doctor an air of mystery. Something I kinda missed about the RTD days.
Love the bit where he resolves to fight and has the Tardis key in his hand!
This video definitely deserves more views mate, fantastic job at editing..the dialogue sounded like something that could have featured on the original minisode!
the sound from Power of the Daleks when we were in the Doctor's POV was a VERY clever little addition.
I am impressed by how well it works even in 2021 there’s nothing like this you truly are unique.
They should get Pierce Brosnan to play Rassilon and then he sees the Tennant era incarnation in a flashback and says "That's twice I used to have that face."
Young Hurt doesn't half sound like Jon Pertwee!!
@NovaWolf Gaming me too :)
Benj Pope you mean old John Hurt. Pertwee is a completely different incarnation of the doctor duh
Airwolf 276 he meant when John hurt was young he sounded like John pertwee.
So cool. If only we could have had the wonderful John Hurt in another full Who story. He was brilliant.
Hurt is the true 9th Doctor as far as I'm concerned.
Man, I had to add my two pence here. This is such great work! If only the Beeb had the time (and the rights) to add these really nice little touches. Really nice idea to include those bits of him using earlier dialogue. I will say though, those earlier shots and the clearer view of his face at the start would have been perfect just by themselves.
When you've seen such incredible editing by people like Babelcolour, Kelvington and Farmergeddon71, you think you've seen it all... Never been so happy to be proven wrong.
I love, love, love this! Brilliant editing.
(After the Rassilon shot) The Warrior: Fuck sake, she made me drink lemonade and dry ice
That was fantastic!
that was wonderful well done, Sir John would be very impressed, this is canon!
That was utterly brilliant.
This is superb, incredibly well done, love the touch of the War Doctor theme in the regeneration
Nicely done. Would love a tv series featuring Paul McGann's Eigth Doctor, maybe accompanied by Lucie Miller...
If only the 8th Doctor was given his own series. McGann still looks young enough to play him. WOuld be better the the drivel we've had with the last two seasons.
No TV series could ever best his big finish work.
Yes, don’t like Lady Who vs Mistress.
This is great! nicely done. I wish we'd had something like this in the mini-episode, I would love to have seen more of McGann's older Doctor too.
"Our salvation comes at the hands of our most infamous child."
The Timeless Child, in fact ...
You should make the Master - Missy regeneration from The Doctor Falls extended version.
This is absolutely amazing!
Don't really get the inclusion of Rassilon at the end but other than that the integration here is some of the best I've ever seen. Getting footage from the exact film the face shot actually came from and making it work so well, not just visually but making the dialogue line up really well as well. It's masterfully done.
Dude, this is incredible, I was hoping someone would use clips from Crime and Punishment for the War Doctor for years!!!!
This is now canon for me. Well done!
WOW. That was fantastic. It was better than the entire season that's recently finished. Well done!!!
When I clicked play on that short, I was thrilled and amazed to see the full fledged version of Paul McGann's Doctor, that I had been following through the audio adventures and had come to love as 'My' Doctor, given such a well written, character appropriate and resonant tie back into cannon.
What I just watched gave me the that same thrill.
By taking an amazing earlier performance by John Hurt, and using it's weight to balance the tone... I'm trying to sound smart just because I want you to know just how many things I appreciate in this video.
If I was 10 I'd say brilliant. But for myself I say OUTSTANDING! X
This was very well done! :)
Very, VERY well done!
And now we're getting a Big Finish Series starting on this time period.
I will still consider this canon.
That was actually really good! :D
Damn, that was a great edit! Well done.
Absolutely fantastic work.
The Night of the Doctor plus this = a great pre-titles sequence for a Doctor Who Time War movie
Bravo! God bless Sir John Hurt
From “The Night of the Doctor” (2003), the first episode of the 40th Anniversary specials, followed by “Time War: Part 1” and “Time War: Part 2”
THIS WAS AMAZING
I loved John Hurt one of my favorite actors!!
Great job!! It is a nice salve in the time of Chibnall and Whitaker.
It shows how far we have fallen.
This is actually really good. Well done.
2:07 He has a fob watch
More likely in this context it's the TARDIS key.
Very nicely done.
Great vid as usual
Adding Timothy Dalton at the end was a nice touch. I wish he'd been available for Hell Bent because he carried a sense of power and authority that Donald Sumpter lacked. To be fair to Sumpter, the first part of Hell Bent was about Rassilon losing his authority but it would have been way more satisfying if the Doctor had kicked Dalton's incarnation off Gallifrey.
This is amazing.
I remember John Hurt in a movie from a few decades ago, anyone remember the 1980 movie the "Elephant Man"....
Yes, very sad film about John ''Joseph '' Merrick.
Looks brilliant
Wow. That's so impressive. It really needed to be part of the special.
Fantastic effort my friend.
Amazing! Veryly nicely done!
Well done liked it. Loved the use of clips from a man for all seasons
Welldone definatly looks more complete now
She was a bit of a Dolly bird when she was younger!
This is so good. Amazing. FANTASTIC!
John Hurt would be proud bud! great job
Well done, that was really satisfying to watch
I actually knew John Hurt from V for Vendetta before I found out he was in Doctor Who.
John Hurt had a very extensive and varied career. Most people have seen him at least once outside of Doctor Who.
I can’t stop watching this
I love the 4:3 aspect ratio! This makes me want to see all of New Who like that
Pity I gave it the black bars before RUclips introduced the dynamic video player sizing though...
Absolutely Brilliant! No! Imean it! from the bottom of our hearts!
Magnificent sir, simply magnificent!
You're really good! Another stellar job!
Great vid; so well produced.
This was... Excellently awesome and very well done! Congrats!! It Should be made canon!!
I think that the John Hurt incarnation was totally not needed as the eighth Doctor was dark enough to be the one that fought in the Time War and destroyed Gallifrey along with the Daleks in order to save the Universe.
I love this so much!! This would have been great if they just added this for the 50th.
Now that....was really, very nicely done
You deserve my best.
My favorite Doctor!
As it should have been...Bravo!
Great work loved it.
Rip John Hurt.
I wish you was working for the current series of DW I think you could save it.
This is wonderful!
You can clearly see where the inserted footage is edited in but I still consider this scene to be canon. The storytelling makes up for the wonky visual execution. This is a fitting tribute to both John Hurt's career and his performance as the true 9th Doctor.
VERY nice! Great work!
Imagine this as the proper Ninth Doctor, cantankerous yet caring, some might say, a good version of Colin Baker's and Peter Capaldi's incarnations
John Hurt IS the proper 9th Doctor. Christopher Ecclestone is 10, David Tennant is 11, Matt Smith is 12 and Peter Capaldi is 13. I think the fanbase and the show should stop calling Hurt the War Doctor and refer to him as the 9th.
@@tomnorton4277 Don't you mean 9. Hurt, 10. Eccleston, 11 and 12. Tennant and 13. Smith, etc? My original comment was a hypothetical
@@mattthesilent777RED What? That was confusing gibberish unless you're referring to Chinballs' Doctors, who don't count. The only part that made sense was the hypothetical part.
@@tomnorton4277 Some people name the doctors by their incarnation in the cycle - John Hurt is certainly 9 in that way but because of the regeneration in Journey's End, David Tennant is 11 and 12
@@tomnorton4277 actually they are all just the doctor the doctor the doctor the doctor the doctor the doctor the doctor the doctor the doctor the doctor the doctor the doctor the doctor the doctor the doctor and the doctor the doctor the doctor to doctor to the doctor the doctor the doctor the doctor the doctor the doctor the doctor the doctor and the doctor
This is excellently done and must have taken hours of editing!
Well done and thanks for this!
As this is what I call proper full story line (they could have expanded night of the doctor a bit more like this!) but you hit the nail on the head with this!
I’ve subbed and liked 👍🏼
This is actually a pretty good edit 🫢
Beautifully done.
Amazing fan edit!
This is really well edited. I've been wandering what the BBC and now you pulled from for the young John Hurt. I know that's him but he obviously didn't look like that when the 8th Doctor's regeneration was filmed.
It's from the 1979 TV adaptation of Crime and Punishment - a BBC production, so that might be why the BBC was able to use an image from it so readily.
It would have been awesome if they could have done this with the 50th anniversary special, like you did here. ⚡🎬📖