How the Food Pyramid Shaped the Obesity Epidemic
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- In this video, Dr. Peterson and Dr. Peter Attia discuss the food pyramid, the standard American diet, and their impact on insulin resistance and obesity.
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At my first clinical position as a freshly graduated DO, I received a copy of the NEW and IMPROVED "Food Pyramid" at my office. I had many hours of nutrition in med school, courses in undergrad, and had been feeding myself for years prior to starting college (7 years active duty Army) and I had a pretty good idea the pyramid was a recipe for disaster. I posted it in my office - UPSIDE DOWN. Patients would ask, and I would tell them my belief that carbs were going to create a generation of obese people. That was in 1992. Was I right?
Right on the money....
why is no one mentioning the toxic gm food chain which is sprayed with glysophates ,this one chemical has made america the sickest country on earth ,if you poison the gut bacteria you get mentally ill and very sick
Wow, you were WAY before you time. Well done.
You say you studied nutrition at med school?
And hours of learning about nutrition.
Yet you still claim that carbohydrates cause obesity?
Either the schooling system is fucked in your country, or you are a total liar
DO?
If we call it "The food profitability pyramid", it is entirely accurate.
Eugenics / soul harvest
How? Grains and vegetables are the least profitable, and sugary and oil foods are the most profitable yet the pyramid recommends it the least. Stupid comment.
@@philippenight2421 it’s a bigpharma soul harvest
@@elliot1784 They operate exactly like necromancers. Render a person into the living dead then puppet them.
@@elliot1784 I don’t know what that is
Dr. Peterson,
I took my 14 year old son to see you when you last stopped in Durham, Nc. I had the opportunity to meet you personally but declined due to my physical appearance and being about 100 pounds overweight. Honestly, I was embarrassed. That moment, and the continued help of your videos, has helped me understand the importance of setting goals and taking the necessary steps are when trying to moving forward in life, and I do not want to miss out on any more of life's highlights!
I thank you Dr. Peterson...
Awesome honesty
The biggest thing I've told myself to improve physically and stay with it is intent, the words you speak to others or what you think to yourself about your weight DOES NOT matter at all. No one has ever gotten healthy from speaking words or typing a nice message that makes you feel good in the moment.
Walk, run, swim, dance, just do something, don't think about doing something and don't do things based off just emotion cause then you will fail yourself and thats all that matters, is what you think and most importantly, what YOU do for yourself
NEXT TIME, YOU SHAKE HIS HAND BROTHER!!! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@@Avalonanon Yes, but also nutrition will effect your physical appearance about 90% of the way. Activity is needed and great, and it will add shape and dimension to the physical indeed. But primaily the physical activity is for the mental health, and maintaining a healthy moveable form that will withstand challenges that come up, and then old age. But speaking of physical appearance alone, like needing to lose 100lbs, that is 100% diet only. (And of course excess lbs is wildly unhealthy to everything internal, but I think I understand my intention here)
❤
Got rid of carbs and sugar and I feel better than ever.
The food pyramid absolutely POISONED Americans
I've lost over 40 pounds
Well bully for you.
The food pyramid didn't poison American. Gluttony and overabundance poisoned America.
@jaysmith3361 You can blame the food pyramid, the food industry, the government, the advertising, or whatever else, but you have control over what food is placed in your shopping cart.
@@simfimpim you ever seen how chess grandmasters get wrecked by ai computer players?
@jaysmith3361Asians have been relying primarily on carbohydrates for centuries. It's also the type of carbohydrates you eat.
It wasn’t just the Food Pyramid. It was also that cholesterol was blamed for heart disease. The low fat diet recommendations frightened people away from dietary fat.
The problem could have been solved differently.
My boomer mother still has that bias towards fat and cholesterol, yet she has almost zero awareness for sugar
On point
Interestingly, low fat causes hormonal imbalances. We need healthy fats to create hormones we need for vitality. This is especially true for menopausal women.
@@Captain_Insano_nomercy I have a mother that is FEARFUL of anything that has fat, calories, sugar, etc... But she will fill her body with all the fake crap that fills "low cal" food, and fake sugar, margarine, fake oils, etc... She has an eating disorder (in my opinion) and an exercise disorder, but restricts her proteins & carbs. She is one of the unhealthiest health nuts I have ever met. She is having heart trouble, and has very little muscle definition left even tho she runs everyday. She is anemic. Yet, my hubby & I grow all our food & eat all sorts of fats - lard, eggs, dairy, meat we raise. We have home baked desserts often. Real veggies & fruit. Grains that WE grow -wheat & cornmeal. And our health is great. (The only concern is our one daughter who eats things away from home that we don't offer here.) Real food being vilified is one part of the problem
@patty hansen food nutrition misinformation is one of the largest issues in our society, I tie myself in knots trying to convince her that the "healthy" substitutes aren't actually healthy
Overfed and undernourished; then over-medicated to deal with the resulting metabolic disorders…
Overfed and undernourished.
I really gotta start making t shirts
This is the thing I see everywhere...
Exactly, all the while making some people a lot of money and making progress to depopulate the earth...
lesworth you are absolutely correct. Plus the medication enables one to have no responsibility whatsoever for what they put in their mouth. Why would someone believe a thin person who eats very few carbohydrates and no sugar when their educated doctor tells them to eat grains and fruit?
OMG... I've been trying to explain this to people for YEARS! No one listens! So glad this video came out. It drives me nuts that we've been sold this since we were in first grade!
@jrkastl
I agree, no one wants to listen. We need high fat milk, cheeseburgers, steak and other meat, we need dairy as well. We need some white bread or cereal because it’s full of vitamins.
wait how r we meant to actually eat? what do we eat instead of carbs?
@@bobdarrick2628 A diet with hardly any (if at all) simple carbs... your carbs should come from complex carbs, with a diet of higher fat and protein. Breads, sugars, pastas... should all be eradicated from your diet. Our gut did not evolve to consume grains until only in the past 5000 years, but biology has not caught up. That's why we have higher mental health and physical health issues. We've moved off our evolutionary diet to something designed by a country's profits for grain production. It's utterly insane.
@@jrkastl oh ok, thanks, although I disagree with evolution myself
@@bobdarrick2628 Then go on eating simple carbs. God wanted it that way, I guess.
Keto literally changed my life in surprising ways that I never expected quite apart from keeping my weight perfectly controlled for years without effort. The food pyramid is so wrong that it's truly breathtaking. My doctor gets it, thankfully, but my mother is still convinced that I am now a ticking heart attack time bomb despite the fact that I am transparently healthier than I have ever been.
Glad to see this information finally hitting mainstream.
I’ve adopted an almost Keto diet as I do like a few things that are carbs, but in March I was having almost no carbs and felt amazing. I had a stroke in January which made me rethink things - sadly, I’ve fallen off the bandwagon in April and May. April was more because I got the flu, I didn’t really get too far off keto but did have more porridge and things like that. May and June have been bad as I’ve had my depression increase exponentially as well.
I didn’t understand the bald man’s assertion that equal amounts is Pepsi and steak are the same. I guess I need to listen again because he has me shaking my head.
A plant based diet did the same for me. 32 years of weight roller coaster and 5 years of a pound up or down. The movie Forks Over Knives is worth a look.
I never thought about the fact that the outside edges of supermarkets don't (tend to) contain highly processed foods, but the center does.
It probably bodes well that the last several years I have been buying much more from the outside edges than from the center, and most of what I do buy from the center are raw ingredients rather than processed foods. I'll have to keep in mind to tread lightly when venturing into the center.
I tend to make most of my breads and sweets myself these days, and what I do buy in the central aisles tends to be ingredients.
The most difficult part about eating healthy, is not the food, it's the peer pressure.
"Hey, I brought donuts. Have one."
"It's Sarah's birthday. Celebrate with us and have cake."....etc.
a donut or slice of cake wont kill you. It's all about moderation.
tbh.
the peer pressure is a big one.
it's not really the occasional birthday but constant birthdays, treats, free work food and snacks... Eating when you feel full....
Jordan Peterson had issues with his carnivore diet meant he couldn't go to dinners...
I get looks like I have two heads when I politely decline the various offered treats or if I eat part of something and leave as much of the sugar on the plate as possible.
@@jeffmoodie6144 Actually just tell people you feel full. "I'll feel ill if I eat more".
it's valid... You can feel full of sugar but still drink water... Or eat egg. Don't let people get in the way of your health :)
@@MallchadIt’s like you get hated on and gossiped about
I read the book "Metabolical" by Dr Robert Lustig recently - it follows the thread of money and influence into nutrition and then medicine, the horrifying effect of sugar and processed food consumption, their effects on our insulin responses...very similar to this discussion, keep bringing the awareness to this!
Bonus points for bring up Lustig. I think it's entirely likely that his lectures on youtube, and his attempts to spread the word about sugar, have saved millions of lives in the long run. But frustratingly, people are still distracting everyone with complexities that are unnecessary - food pyramids and complex dietary guidelines.
No, just stop eating sugar. That's the first step. That's the biggest step. You can't fix someone's diet while they're actively consuming poison.
Yes, the only sugar that should regularly be in one’s diet is the natural sugar that comes from fruits and vegetables. Artificial sugar, artificial sweeteners, they need to go. And if you need to ween yourself off, start with the sugary drinks. Like I said, artificial sugar should be consumed very sparingly if at all, but while still unhealthy, that Twix bar will have less of a negative health impact than that can of Coca Cola
And if you do consume a soda once in a while, like once in a month, go for one that has sugar over the chemical laden diet sodas. I’d rather have a little processed sugar as opposed to aspartame if I had to choose one or the other. Lastly, pure cane sugar is less harmful than sugar by other names (glucose, fructose, dextrose, sucrose, etc)
Remember: of all the unhealthy things, once in a blue moon is fine, but don’t overindulge. It’s called moderation. On average, I drink about 3-4 bottles of soda (single serving, not 2 liter) and two candy bars per year, and very spread out
And again, since some people take things to the extreme, don’t cut out fruits and vegetables just to ensure an absolute zero sugar diet
The carnivore method of eating changed my life unrecognisably. I wasn't unhealthy prior but I only now understand what healthy actually looks and feels like having removed carbohydrates fundamentally.
The science here is not good. You may see results from low carb and your health may improve when you cut out sugars and processed carbs. However, your body’s systems are undeniably setup for carbs as your primary fuel. There is no question about this. Converting protein to energy is an expensive metabolic process and has poor chemical side effects if done over a long period of time. Plant based diets are the scientific ideal by the data we have now. Not no meat - but limited meat. The question is - what is the source of your carbs?
Did you die from lack of carbohydrates?
@@tylerhall95 no wayyyyyyyyyyyyy
@@tylerhall95 Once you break out of the myth of saturated fats/cholesterol being bad and the myth of antioxidants, there's literally no reason to eat plant based. You can, but it holds no advantages.
@@drooskie9525 these are precisely the type of non scientific claims I expect to hear here. Saturated fats and antioxidants are like buzzwords. There is a whole spectrum of things that resemble those two terms. I’m talking in way simpler terms than that. How does your body convert food to energy… what are the side effects. Everyone is an expert on food because everyone is desperate to be justified in how they want to eat. That doesn’t mean your claims checkout under skepticism.
It's all been turned upside down. We ditched salt and accepted sugar as a part of dietary requirement. I challenge anyone to try: instead of having a sweet breakfast, have a salted one, like eggs with veg/sausage. If I have salted breakfast, I have way less need for sugar throughout the day.
Also, Fat. Fat is okay
I enjoy skyr which is a low calorie high protein yogurt. Add fruit, maybe one slice of toast with an egg and cheese/meat and I'm full.
@@smorevids Too much sugar.
Scrambled eggs, bacon, pork chop.
This is not simply a dietary problem. Food is used to comfort our souls when life gets difficult because it's always available and feels good. Pursuing physical health certainly involves diet and exercise but getting your soul healthy will make these lifestyle changes sustainable.
"This is not simply a dietary problem."
Yes it is. Fructose is as addictive as the hardest of drugs, and is metabolized much the same as alcohol. It is in everything now. Yes, we use sugary food to "comfort our souls" - because we are a population of junkies. We feel better, briefly, when we get our fix.
Not consuming something poisonous and addictive is what makes lifestyle changes sustainable.
Lost 35lb a couple of years ago by restricting carb intake and increasing meat and animal fat intake. No veg oils but do use extra virgin olive oil. I also used the 5/2 diet plan to assist the weight loss. I have maintained the lower weight and, at age 76 I can still play tennis and chase my youngest grandchildren aged 12 and 8.
An interesting aside here I had to go on a, so called, white diet of pasta, white bread and white veg for six days before a colonoscopy. In that short period I gained 6lb. Thankfully returning to my regular diet has seen that weight gain disappear.
In the UK we have been fed bad food advice for years. Born in 1947 I was a child of the fifties. Meat and two veg, some fruit, plenty of eggs, cheese and fish and chips from the chip shop twice a week. To see a fat person was relatively rare and in a school class of 35 you might have one who was a little pudgy, not grossly fat. Then the, so called, experts came along with dietary advice, surprise, surprise we have a nation of grossly obese individuals.
Brought up to cook from raw ingredients I avoid ready meals and manufactured food like the plague, very occasional pizza excepted.
Me too, but I'm in the US!
I think that was one of the most reasonable, even handed, logical and honest overviews of where the American diet comes from. Not with evil intent, not with nefarious purpose but definitely without proper guardrails and cautionary warnings.
"Not with evil intent"
The food industry has been putting more and more fructose into the diet since the 1970s, when high fructose corn syrup was invented, and used to stabilize the market.
The food industry has known, for a very long time, that it is addictive. Studies have shown that it is VERY addictive. As in, class-A drug addictive. It is also known, by the science, that it is metabolized in much the same way as alcohol - in other words, it is as damaging to the human body as alcohol.
The food industry knows this, and has been happily selling it to children; advertising it to children. "Kids and grownups love it so", the adverts say. All the breakfast cereals - they are colour-coded for sugar content; the brighter coloured, the happier the cartoon characters on the covers? The higher the sugar content. They are aiming this at kids.
Tell me again it's not with evil intent. They are exactly the same as the Tobacco companies who were trying to advertise on kids TV before the government stepped in.
I did a lot of research into this years ago and was BLOWN AWAY. It all stemmed from the President at the time wanting to ensure everyone has enough food and just never stopped...this literally created the diet that we have now and all the accompanying obesity and all that goes along with it. The guy in this video nailed it. It really is a huge thing that goes back decades. I remember growing up and eating cereal and Pop-Tarts all that and, knowing what I know now, it's insane. It's good to see this info getting out there!!
And our media sends the message that nothing makes you more of a dork than a healthy diet. Because cool kids have no interest in chores.
@@ladymacbethofmtensk896 At this point, if people still listen to the mainstream media, it's their own fault.
Good ole Nixon
wait how r we meant to actually eat? what do we eat instead of carbs? let me know please
@@bobdarrick2628 Protein and fats. We literally have to consume protein and fats (this is why they're called essential amino acids) to survive...we do NOT need to consume carbohydrates. Our bodies can create needed carbohydrates through a process called gluconeogenesis. We LITERALLY don't need carbohydrates. None. 0.
Dr. Peterson you and your guest are 100% correct.
I am 65 y.o. i was a practicing ICU RN for ocer 30+ years and have watched the complete deterioration of our population with poor nutrition.
The major food companies and the diet industry have litterally FED their coffers on the lies.
There was never a NEED for the diet industry until people became obese and sick eati g what the government/food companies told us to eat.
Nutrition is and has been the key to health and vitality. If you get the NUTRITION that your body REQUIRES you feel better and can do more which in turn makes you feel better. Eat fresh whole foods with minimal processing or additives. Explore menus focusing on nutrition not calories. I DO shop around the outside isles of the store when i shop. I try to grow as much as i can of my own produce and preserve my harvest by dehydrating and canning my own food. The advantages are immense.
With all due respect, I find it deeply unsettling that someone with medical experience, who pursues a healthy diet... does not mention sugar consumption. Fructose is metabolized in much the same way as alcohol; it is as damaging to the human body as alcohol, and it's highly addictive. And it's in everything now.
The changes I am implementing now: Buying from the local markets natural products. no more processed supermarket cheese, hams, yogurt. no more veggies and fruits from the supermarket as well. I am going all local doing my best to find the families that also create the products and have their family bussiness. helps eating way better, helps the economy as well. the only downside I have seen is that it is a bit expensive, but not a lot more, like 20-25%. The cheese I find traditionally made by the people from my area is so full of flavor and it's almost more dense, you can feel it's taste deeper and it makes me eat less of it. Most likely more nutrient dense as well. Compared to the processed one in the supermarket from famous brands, which clearly have added some chemicals for preserving and as we all know - big companies cut corners everywhere they can for profit. I think the benefits outweigh the negatives on this change. I am looking forwards in comparing long term because i get the impression that eating better quality will make me eat less, which in turn will compensate for the extra price with me going a little bit more rare to the market to replenish the fridge. Also started using cash again which I didn't in a while and started avoiding the automating payment checkouts, instead going to the people that work there. let's all take the path of the highest general good.
used to see locally produced goat's milk & cheese at some places where I live, unfortunately it costed 3 times as much as the other options and most shop owners stopped selling them in because few people would actually buy the stuff. not many places sell anything other than mass produced cheap products for similar reasons.
Best I can get is local farm chickens and eggs, those are still available and affordable.
It is a combination of factors. Main problem is cultural. In cultures that do not value gastronomy, that do not value high quality foods or home-made preparation etc., then you get an explosion of obesity when industrial production gets involved in the food preparation. Even in those high-gastronomy cultures, like France, Italy, or Japan, you get a bit of a slide toward obesity because the industrialization of food production also occurs, but they are more resilient against it.
"Main problem is cultural."
No, the main problem is the invention of high fructose corn syrup in the 1970s, and the infiltration of all food types in the Western world by increasing levels of sugar. Fructose is highly addictive, and is metabolized in the body like alcohol - meaning it damages the body like alcohol. And it is now in everything.
It is a readily fixable problem. But people keep waxing lyrical about these big, vague notions of "culture" and "food pyramids", instead of literally just pointing out that we are consuming poison, and wondering why the end result is that we've been poisoned.
Unsurprising that it always boils down to the bottomline, like most things in life. In the early days of the tobacco industry, they had physicians shill for their products on the packaging to sell cigarettes. You can never rely on any central authority to have your best interest at heart.
I had a doctor tell me to stop smoking while he had 2 cartons of Pall Malls on his desk standing between us.
Excellent point made about trusting any central authority for one's well being
When I visited the USA from off sub Saharan Africa, I was distressed to realise how poor and Mal nutritioned the American were, across 5 States that I visited. The price to eat what I was used to was impossible to afford consistently
what foods did you eat normally back in your country?
@FockDaNamez . Yo...your name is a bit harsh to read sorry. Just saying...One of the meals I made in the USA was Lamb with 5 vegetables, brown rice and Mediterranean salad and one milk tart for desert. Fresh juice for drink
4 soft boiled eggs Along with 16 oz of steak is all a person needs with an adequate walk and exercise every few days...
Mmmm, this makes me think of the scene from "Twister" about steak and eggs.
Might want to add in some liver and heart, or was that already included in the 16oz?
@@philip1541 definitely organ meats...
I grew up with this pyramid. It was all over the school walls and everywhere. Even in doctors surgery. I must have been around 12. I followed this diet to my detriment. The lies that has been taught to all young kids who lived in the first world country is just criminal. Now in my 50s I do my own research and not trust anything. I don't even trust my doctor for my health and diet. We all have been doomed.
Yeah, what do doctors know eh? SMFH
I’ve had my fair share of stupid doctors
@@puffchickpam1 doctors aren't infallible, they're human just like us all. However to call someone "stupid" after they've studied their craft for at least 8 years and spent at least 4 as a resident before receiving the ability to practice says a lot more about you than the doctor. How can anyone help another person who lacks respect for their advice. Yeah, I'm sure you both know better than your doctors...smfh
@@puffchickpam1 Many of them are willfully ignorant. I, too, have had my fair share of Dr.s that leave me with questions about whether I should trust them or not. I especially love the pediatrician I have for my daughter right now. I was worried about her sugar levels & her weight gain in the past year. The Dr. is morbidly obese & was trying school my daughter on a healthy diet & was telling me that she is "on track' with her weight. she has gained a significant amount of weight & I had concerns. I offer a healthy diet (we pretty much grow/raise all our own food), but she goes to work & eats JUNK that she can buy there. Plus, coworkers are always bringing in Dunkin', pizza, etc...The Dr. pretty much undermined my concerns by telling my daughter that she is within the 'normal range'. And I can tell by her appearance that she MUST struggle with the same issues. I have had other Dr.s that just don't listen or try to find out what is wrong. Most Dr.s do not spend much time on nutrition in med school.
@@Saldivinorum nothing about nutrition actually 😂
Meat is super good for you. Eating excess carbohydrates is way too easy. Eating excess meat is nearly impossible. We need to stop dancing around the truth: we are meat-based creatures.
Correct. Whatever the government says do the opposite and you’ll be fine
Once I understood that there is no such thing as an essential carbohydrate (there are essential fats and proteins) and the little glucose we need is manufactured by our liver via gluconeogenesis plus the fossil record clearly shows we evolved as obligate hyper carnivores getting 75% plus nutrition from animal sources (long bone and teeth stable isotope testing proves this) it became obvious to me a ‘Proper Human Diet’ was the way to go.
My N=1 story:
During the lockdown in 2021 I was obese with pre-diabetes and high blood pressure. I was suffering from metabolic syndrome. I understood the comorbidity I had as a 58 year old would greatly affect me if I contracted the Rona. I had to lose fat, reduce hypertension, reverse my NAFLD and reduce my HbA1c.
Sitting in my armchair at the beginning of lockdown I saw that the keto/ketovore/carnivore diet claimed it could ‘cure’ my ailments. I watched a bunch of videos and tried to make sense of the linked papers supporting the claims. End result was that it simply made a lot of sense to me.
8 months later, whilst still sitting in my armchair (most of the time). I had lost the 30kg/66lbs of fat that was required to get me down to a ‘normal’ BMI, I GREATLY improved my blood pressure to the point it raised my doctor’s eyebrows. My blood sugar was well back in to the ‘normal’ range. I vastly reduced inflammation.
I also reversed IBS that had controlled my life for 40 years (I lost jobs because of it), got rid of decades long debilitating heartburn, my Testosterone went up drastically (my wife is happy 🤓), a foggy & forgetful brain (possible early stage MCI, I sometimes also slurred my words) improved significantly and undiagnosed but recognised by my family I got out of a bad case of lockdown depression,
A few months ago I further decided to cut out most vegetables, only adding a little onion, garlic, green peppers and tomato for some flavour. Improvements are continuing with a pace with better mental health, blood markers, skin condition etc.
Cutting out processed food, (mainly
grains as I already avoided ultra processed foods) sugar/carbohydrates and seed/‘vegetable’ oils is all it took …
Simply eating nutrient dense meat/HEAVY in animal fat, single ingredient real food!
We THRIVE when eating our evolved, species specific Proper Human Diet with some intermittent fasting to mimic the way our ancestors survived.
I’m sure there are hundreds of thousands of people that have similar N=1 stories to tell …
It's the sugar that did it, more than anything.
This is the most important thing to anchor the discussion to, because it's the single most damaging thing in Western diet, and even if people were still not eating optimal diets... it would mean the difference between being poisoned and not being poisoned.
We were never meant to eat so much fructose. In nature, we'd only be eating it in season, with fibre. So maybe a couple of months a year of eating SOME fruit.
Now it's in everything. Sweet foods, savoury foods, drinks, bread, condiments, desserts. And people keep waffling on about "self control" and "exercise" and "balanced diet" while eating something highly addictive, that is metabolized like alcohol, and that suppresses the satiety hormone.
When food pyramid is actually revealed to be a food pyramid scheme
Here in the UK I was a stone overweight in my early twenties and went to my GP and he gave me a diet sheet telling me to cut out fat and salt and eat carbs instead. I followed this and put on more and more weight. Slimming clubs gave me the same advice. I began yo yo dieting. After a while I noticed they were introducing low calorie biscuits covered in caramel. It was then that I realised it was sugar causing my overeating problem. By this time I had T2D and was on meds. I did research and discovered about insulin resistance and how eliminating sugar and carbs would break this. I did keto for 8 months and by that time my blood sugars had fallen to near normal, I’d lost 15k and my cholesterol was in the acceptable zone. A year later nothing had changed even though I had started eating some carbs again. A year later and I’m struggling. My sugar addiction won’t let me go and it’s everywhere, even in some cheeses!
You just gotta write it down in front of every location where you eat sugars and force yourself to stop.
I eat tons of fruit. Fresh fruit especially but also dried fruits. It feeds my sweet tooth and it has also made other processed sugar products seem way too sweet, so I can't eat them anymore, except maybe a bite or 2. Something to try?
@@ithecastic Yes, I eat lots of fiber and protein also. Lots of vegetables in every form (except okra...yuck), and some whole grain products. 👍
@@stefc1289 You are eating a ticket to NAFLD with all that fruit - fructose. Dried fruit is lethal. If you eat tons of fresh fruit you are guaranteed to get T2 diabetes. The only fruit you can eat if you do want fruit are berries, sparingly.
Animal fats > Any oil
Cholesterol/saturated fats don’t cause heart disease. Salt is good for you, it’s VERY essential for your body.
Funnily enough, salt only becomes a problem with a high sugar diet. Insulin issues leads to kidney issues, leading to water retention and thus blood pressure issues.
Olive and coconut are good oils
@@bleachdiet559 Yes they have the right fatty acids. They don’t have the vitamins a and d found in pastured lard and grass fed butter though
I started to notice this back in 91'. It's the first time I seen more people obese and more children with diabetes. Highly processed foods are not good for the immune system or the digestive tract, fast food especially. In my case I have IBS so I have always had to be careful with how many of these types of food I can eat without having problems like cramping and bloating. Over the years for the most part I have been able to keep my weight down but now that I'm in my 50s I have diverticulosis that turns into diverticulitis when I get flare ups and it can be painful. This is a problem that used to happen with people after 60 but it's happening now at a younger age with more people thanks to the american diet. There is no way to totally avoid these types of foods in this country and not have problems.
"fast food especially"
Has nothing to do with fast food, or at least the connection is secondary. The issue is sugar. And more specifically, fructose. It's highly addictive, is metabolized like alcohol (and thus, is as damaging as alcohol), and it's in everything.
And even people who think they're being "healthy" are susceptible - because they'll happily glug a glass of orange juice every morning, thinking they're being healthy, when nature never intended us to consume fruit all year-round and without any fibre.
I think there's more to this addiction than meets the eye. It's about widespread dissatisfaction. We don't need ice cream but we do need a hug.
Yes, and science had now concluded based on solid research, that "loneliness" is equally as deadly as "heart disease"... And just think back to how much money is/was invested in supporting the cure for heart disease.
Yes. And alot of over eating is due to boredom. How, in a country/culture like this can we possible be bored? People have a God-Hole they are trying to fill.
"I think there's more to this addiction than meets the eye"
Really not, actually.
The root of it is fructose consumption. Fructose is as addictive as the hardest of drugs, and is metabolized like alcohol. It suppresses the satiety hormone - which is why you "always have room for dessert". It can overpower and mask anything - like fat - that would normally TRIGGER the satiety hormone.
People are are miserable because they're being poisoned and they don't know it. We've been through hard times before; through all kinds of wars and disasters. Overeating was never a problem in those situations, because it's normally not humanly possible to bypass natural dietary regulation - when your hormones say "stop eating", you cannot eat. But when those hormones are flipped off? You cannot stop.
Just think of the Romans. Even at the most debauched, they could not eat too much... without making themselves vomit.
I have been saying this since the 90s!
Thank you for bringing this to light!
About the food pyramid that is.
Part of the issue is that they added High Fructose Corn Syrup to everything, even ketchup. Then added salt and sugar to cover up the taste of low-quality ingredients.
Self control is VERY difficult, cross that with the addictive nature of sugar and you have a recipe for disaster.
The more carbohydrates you eat, the more carbohydrates you crave.
@@caroleanne8529 It's not about carbs. It's about sugar. More specifically, it's about fructose.
Compare smoking rates since 1960 to obesity rates since then and you will see that we simply traded one oral addiction for another.
We didn't. They did. The industries behind this stuff. The fructose that was introduced to our diet in the 1970s is more addictive than cigarettes, is metabolized much the same as alcohol, and they've been putting it in literally everything.
Hell, they've even been putting sugar in cigarettes.
I've been wondering about the nutritional value of food going down. Even in your fresh vegetables and fruits, it seems like they are not as healthy as they once were. I'm not sure if it's the mass production or the weakening of the soil but some of it doesn't seem to have the same amount of "punch" that it once did.
Nutritional deficiency is an ongoing and worsening problem, chiefly caused by the cessation of the age-old practice of crop rotation and letting fields lie fallow for a year to recover. Post-WWII we have practiced intensive farming, growing the same crops in the same locations decade after decade, stripping the topsoil of all its micronutrients. That's why homegrown produce is better for us all around.
@@meistergedanken4790 Thank you for confirming my suspicions. I'm not a farmer. I kill air plants. ( 😞)
@@meistergedanken4790 absolutely agree - the introduction of chemical fertilisers as a placebo for crop rotation has had catastrophic consequences. Especially with the rise of supermarkets taking a monopoly on production and forcing down prices so that farmers had to adapt to mass production by cheaper but less healthy methods.
If we want to talk about another marketing scam it's agronomy, who promised that chemical fertilisers with their 3 main nutrients were sufficient for healthy crop growth 🙄 Also hydroponics etc for fast growth with minimal input to the plants.
I studied a course in Early Education and Care over here in Australia (childcare for 0-6yr olds), and the food pyramid is right there. The kids eat more carbs than any other food group. It doesn't help that little kids have much more sensitive taste buds and will prefer bland foods like white bread, rice and rice crackers over a saucy stir fry or bolognas, but I felt like I was doing such a disservice to these little kids giving them a diet I knew was not optimal for them. They eat about 6 times a day and it's pretty much always carb based with small amounts of veggies, small amounts of meat, one snack break generally will be fruit only at least. One way they got their prescribed dairy intake was through vanilla custard... I think with one-child families on the rise, the benefit of childcare for socialisation is increasing, but if I ever put my kid in childcare I would send them with a list of their required diet, and send food with them too if I needed to.
"The kids eat more carbs than any other food group."
This isn't the real problem. The problem is sugar. Fructose - fruit sugar - is metabolized like alcohol. Meaning it is as damaging as alcohol. It's also highly addictive. Grotesquely increased sugar in the diet, coupled with decreased fat (the consumption of which triggers the satiety hormone - telling you to stop eating) and decreased fibre is responsible for the entirety of the so-called "obesity" problem (and it's not an obesity problem; it's a metabolic problem, and you can have all the health issues surrounding obesity without being obese).
"One way they got their prescribed dairy intake was through vanilla custard"
Be very, very careful with this. Check the packaging. If it contains sugar, cut it out. You're training them with a gateway drug.
As a child I would be considered thin today.
We were not allowed to ‘graze’ all day; we had set meal times, we had set quantities of food to eat (no eating a whole packet of biscuits in one sitting- 1 or 2 a day only, very rarely had take-out, meat was included in EVERY evening meal, very few cakes or pastries in the house, I don’t ever recall a packet of chips (crisps) in the house.
We were also active and it was safe to roam the neighbourhood.
So there’s your answer - for 0$.
If you were a child before the 1980s then there's your actual answer.
In the 1970s, fructose entered the Western diet and increased to an exponential degree in the coming decades. Fructose is as addictive as the hardest of drugs, is metabolized like alcohol, and suppresses the satiety hormone - so you never feel full (thus, "always have room for dessert").
It's not a matter of being "allowed to graze". It's a matter of kids having been given a highly addictive, highly damaging substance since birth.
You forgot the 5th reason. Profit. That always part of a solution.
You forgot the first reason. Satan. 🙃👍
@@elliot1784 Source? Satan does not exist.
@@jstevinik3261 I hope you don’t find out the hard way that that’s the biggest lie ever told.
I’m 4 weeks into a “ketovore” diet! Amazing results for weight loss, inches lost, and huge improvement in digestion. Even my energy is increased, and I’m 65! It was JP’s anecdotal results from a carnivore diet, that inspired me to try!
Peace
I’ve always been sure the relationship between carbohydrates and insulin resistance was already known, but the economic benefits of bringing the poor up on it were just too enticing for our “fair” system
I wish I would have figured this out sooner but I'm so grateful to know it, and action on it, over the last year. My health is so much better, in every way.
Well to be fair it also has to do with trying to actually feed the poor.
The problem is that it justified an egregious lie
@@MsQ275 ???? What’s the quick summary??? 😬
It's not about carbs, it's about sugar. Watch the lecture, "Sugar - The Bitter Truth", by Dr Robert Lustig. He goes into not only the science behind exactly how your body processes sugars, and how fructose - fruit sugar - is metabolized in almost exactly the same way as alcohol, but he also goes into how and why our consumption of it increased in the 1970s due to a perfect storm of economic and scientific blunders.
@@NicholasBrakespear that's complete horseshit. Simple carbohydrates do precisely the same thing that sugar does, because sugar IS a simple carbohydrate. Sugar is not unique in its ability to promote insulin resistance. In fact white bread is even worse in that regard than sugar.
Sugar is, partially, "metabolized like alcohol", because many of not most types of alcohol are rich in carbs.
Oh and sugar can not be compared to alcohol because a certain amount of sugar is also literally necessary for survival. There's a threshold where it gets unhealthy.
According to the old food pyramid, a combination pizza would be the best option.
Bread crust , sauce and veggies, then some cheese, last some slices (1/16th inch thick) of meat. It’s all there in order: Carbs, vegetables, dairy, meats and fats.
carbs are fine, it's the lack of physical activity that is making people insulin resistant. Carbohydrate intake should be roughly commensurate with physical activity. No physical activity makes any carb intake excessive--the answer is to MOVE
so by definition the piramid its upside down?
@@ericferre ... what? That would imply everyone should be eating principally refined sugars and fats.
@@likemy actually one of the advice of Peterson is eating fat on the morning, like bacon.
And yes , maybe fat should be at the base not at the top.
Of course everything industrial processed is not healthy , but you should eat more meat than carbs i think, literrally upside down.
"it's the lack of physical activity that is making people insulin resistant"
No, it's the sugar consumption. Fructose is addictive, is metabolized like alcohol, and actively suppresses the satiety hormone.
The answer is to stop eating poison.
@@ericferre Yeah bacon the healthiest food there is...
I love your up front, don't beat around the bush honesty. I'm like that too. And I am learning what's wrong with food, and taking action now. To reverse the damage, these foods have caused. I was never taught about food. So I'm learning and making changes. It's never too late. 😊
Love these two guys, articulated brilliantly and helping to raise awareness 😊
Yes and I also believe that the combination of modern day conveniences not requiring us to move more in our days and carb buildup is a problem.
In the 60s no one really cared. Health didn’t matter. In the 70s we said running is healthy and let’s get rid of saturated fats. When that didn’t work, we said fiber. Then margarine. Then it was macrobiotics. Then in the 90s it was zone and atkins. We’re always spiraling in on finding out what works.
If someone tells you how many calories to eat per day and that’s how you’re going to lose weight, they’re probably wrong. Because different calories do different things.
Excaltly , calorie count is almost absolute , but different food will have different effect on hunger for the same calories
"In the 70s we said running is healthy and let’s get rid of saturated fats"
This was actually the turning point. This is why nobody cared in the 60s - in the 60s, we weren't being poisoned.
In the 70s, high fructose corn syrup was invented, and sugar content in all food began to rise exponentially. This coincided with a misguided meta-study that pointed the finger at fat consumption, instead of sugar, due to some flawed logic and flawed science.
So everyone cut fat. Thing is, fat consumption triggers the release of the satiety hormone, Leptin. It's also a major flavour enhancer. Without the dietary fat, food tasted bad, and didn't satisfying us so much. So they added sugar to make the food taste better.
The sugar actively suppressed the satiety hormone.
The food industry rubbed its filthy little hands together with glee:
They were legally allowed to sell something that was addictive, bad for people, tasted "nice", and made its victims look like the perpetrators.
It was always about the sugar. Always.
@@NicholasBrakespear Good point about the 70s as the turning point. If you look at photos from the 70s and 80s we looked so healthy but our food was slowly destroying us invisibly until now. High omega-6 oils, mineral-deficient plants, pesticides are also consumed in excess. Europeans consume quite a lot of sugar and they are generally very fit so it’s not obvious to me the blame is in just one category.
How did running get lumped in here lol? You think that was something that went wrong at a population level? Just way too many people started running and ended up in poor health? Yea thats definitely the problem with the western lifestyle, too much running 😂.
The SAD with its emphasis on carbs doesn’t provide the optimal inputs your gut biome requires. Eating consistently can lead to insulin resistance. We’re literally eating ourselves to death.
Sad but true.
Interesting! Also, I would say that eating unhealthy is still an issue nowadays because of two additional aspects. A: It seems eating carbohydrates is something addictive. When you stop eating carbohydrates all of a sudden, it can really affect your body for the first few days (like having a headache) which can get you back to eating like before. And it doesn't help that it's enormously easy to buy the addictive stuff and that eating healthy is often downplayed by other people. B: It seems people don't want to invest time in eating (healthy) anymore. Our hectic lives come first: there's no time for shopping for decent food, cooking a meal and sitting down to enjoy it properly.
When I cut regular junk food (indeed I stopped as I began making more and more of my sweets myself), I never noticed any withdrawal symptoms.
Not all carbohydrates are the same. Glucose becomes blood sugar, and is metabolized by most cells in the body. Fructose, on the other hand, is extremely sweet, and causes metabolic changes to animals' bodies as a survival mechanism. Fruit helped our ancestors gain fat to survive the winter famine they faced every year. Fructose starts a "survival switch" that causes leptin resistance which increased appetite, and also causes energy depletion at the cellular level. This science is shown very clearly by Dr. Richard Johnson, and the historical record bears out his findings. When societies added starches to their diets about 10,000 years ago, they did not get fat or metabolic diseases like diabetes. When fructose was first extracted, and when people began beekeeping and mass produced honey is when we started to see obesity and diabetes explode, true fact.
All very true, and I'm glad to see someone actually mentioning this.
"When fructose was first extracted, and when people began beekeeping and mass produced honey is when we started to see obesity and diabetes explode, true fact."
Of course, it exploded much harder when they started pumping all the Western food with it after the 1970s.
Lots of women claim to struggle finding a boyfriend. When will you tell them to self improve in order to get a man?
My understanding is that it originates from one prepared in the UK. Their pyramid was reasonably independent but I saw a documentary on it and one of the authors of it stated they were initially looking at recommendations for 8 to 10 portions of fruit and veg but were shot down by the health minister as being unrealistic. So they upped the carbs....
I stopped buying store shelf bread after looking at the ingredients and seeing high fructose corn syrup in it
Bingo. But don't stop there; it goes by many names. Do not trust anything that mentions "sugar" in vague terms, like "sugar syrup" etc - that's high fructose corn syrup.
I was an obese person 8 months ago. 30 years old male. 5’7” and 220lbs. Bmi-34.5. I like foods and alcohol. I usually drink 6 cans of beer 🍺 at night. I have hypertension, back pain and fatty liver. It’s 4 months. My bmi became normal after 4 months. Fatty liver gone and no hypertension. And it’s been 8 months after I took care of myself. There is no one who didn’t open their mouths and asked me “is that really you?” when I showed them my old photos. I am still cooking. I will post it on internet when I think it’s about time”. Because without evidence no one will respect my words. On August 2023 I am going to force everyone to believe my words about health and weight loss with a pretty good evidence.
And they told us we are grazers and need to eat every 2 hours. I knew that was crazy.
was introduced to the paleo idea and Dr. Weston A Price Foundation whilst in university and also did crossfit for a while so i did paleo too. Loved it. And it helped realize and become semi-educated on a lot of this stuff. Very good!
this video is awesome, such effective communicators
Even children when presented the food pyramid are smart enough to realize that it makes no sense. The fact that educators allow this bs in school really shows the lack of care and understanding towards education.
Absolutely true
Low nutrient Carbohydrate drives appetite in both decreased time between being hungry and portion size blowout
It's not the carbs that do it.
It's the sugar.
Fructose consumption suppresses the satiety hormone, and causes metabolic dysfunction. It's not that the appetite is being driven; it's that the signal to tell you to stop eating is being blocked.
The problem of obesity has nothing to do with the food pyramid. It has to do with the availability of calorie dense ultra processed foods that are high in both sugar AND fat.
Humans for the majority civilization have relied on carbs as the main source of calories whether it’s bread or rice
Shopping for food in the perimeter aisles of the store is still pretty good advice. However sadly it is being invaded by frankenfood. I would estimate about 40-50% of what is found in the perimeter is now highly processed trash.
Growing up, my mom was constantly snacking on pretzels cos they were "fat free". She had taken the bait and remained obese and probably hasn't figured out the root cause of her obesity to this day.
99% of experts agree, it is the peoples' fault.
I guess it is allways the responsibility of each of us, but the invironment we live in is dictated by suger. Suger is the cause. The root problem is our need for constant gradification, to be pleased all the time. No suffering no gain.
@@projectgrowabonsai1346 That's what I'm saying:
Experts, government and media are always correct, never do anything wrong. But everyone else constantly does stuff wrong. This is easily explained:
Humans make mistakes, but since experts, governments and media are Gods, they're obviously perfect.
Glad to see you believe in them, too.
Well done, human! 👍👍
1:46 food is very expensive nowadays, but if you knock out all of the carbs from your diet, you can somewhat afford steaks even cheap ones to start the carnivore diet. Lost approximately 7 pounds in about a week and a half.
I'm sick of hearing that carbs are the devil... Carbs are only a problem if you eat too much processed food and don't exercise. If you work out and eat clean carbs like, grain, potatoes, oats, pasta and so on then you will not have any issues.
Only fructose is the devil if eaten everyday. Starches don't cause disease in healthy people, but fructose does. This is exactly what history says...
No one ever got fat from eating too much protein , but from carbs ? Easy , there are too much bad carbs in almost anything , along with bad fats
@@ClassicJukeboxBand This. Very much this. It's maddening that so much discussion is happening here, with almost nobody mentioning fructose.
@@NicholasBrakespear People, especially in the low carb community, including many experts and doctors don't seem to understand the difference in sugars, and how they are metabolized differently. This is why glucose is unfairly demonized. Sure, I believe that glucose is not optimal food for us, that's why I'm on the carnivore diet, but fructose is much worse for us in large amounts than glucose is.
@@ClassicJukeboxBand Glucose is the primary fuel for your brain and muscles love glucose for anaerobic activities. Your body makes glucose out of other things just so it can use more glucose.
I learned how to eat by that pyramid and now i struggle minute by minute with weight gain issues. I finally learned what healthy eating was.
Bill Gates is part of the BigFood groups that keeps the world poisoned by sugar intoxication, drowned in seed oils, drain the world energy by highly modified grains and malnourished future generations by GMO products.
One of the biggest drivers of eating is boredom. When you’re out and about, especially if you’re working, you’re not eating because you’re busy. But once your home lying around, you eat out of boredom
"One of the biggest drivers of eating is boredom"
No, it's fructose. Which is highly addictive, is metabolized like alcohol, actively suppresses the satiety hormone and is in every type of food and drink now.
Naturally, people do not eat when they're not hungry even when they're a bit bored. The human body is really very good at self-regulating, when it's not actively being poisoned.
@@NicholasBrakespear nah that’s not true. When people get bored they eat. That’s why you eat when you watch tv, that’s why you eat when you sit around playing video games. When you’re not active and your lounging around, that’s when people eat. Food can be addictive but the addictive aspect is irrelevant. Boredom leads to eating
What about Mr. Kellogg’s planning to release grain and sugar based cereals for the first time, and his direct partnership with the US gov and Dept of Ag, to suddenly produce that food pyramid coincidentally placing grains as the number one daily requirement?? And nevermind Mr. Kellogg having a brother, by the same name, who was an active Eugenicist who was working to create “solutions” for what he saw as population overgrowth of the undesirables. And so along with that food pyramid coming out and pushing it nationwide, we also received a simultaneous war on cholesterol and all animal products.
So… what about that JP??!!
Interesting that the most nutrient dense foods being animal products were socially destroyed, at the exact same time grains and sugars were put on the throne, at the exact same time Mr. Kellogg was creating his first cereal products, at the exact same time his brother Mr. Kellogg #2 was seeking to kill 0ff the “undesirables”. Interesting all those coincidences huh?…. I wonder who was the President then, that chose to create that partnership, and creat that food pyramid… 🤔
Yep, those Adventists have been pushing vegetables for decades on us...
@@ClassicJukeboxBand Well and to be more clear, vegetables aren’t inherently bad. They do indeed provide bulk fiber, which is helpful in most cases for digestion and simply bulking foods more within our guts. But nutritionally… they don’t hold a candle to meat and all animal products! The human gut being acidic, can’t break the cell wall of any plants we consume, so they will always just be bulking fiber for us. Since their nutrition is locked away from the acidic gut, and therefore only theoretical nutrition in regards to humans. While meat products are fully digestible by us, so all nutrition is actual and realized, upon its consumption.
@@jaquirox6579 I could not have said it any better...no disagreement here...
@@ClassicJukeboxBand You know it’s quite rare to meet another human who actually understands this topic?!! Thank you for commenting in solidarity friend. ♥️🙏🏽
Japan and South Korea have eating recommendations similar to our food pyramid -load up on carbs - and have obesity rates of 3.7% and 5.3% respectively.
Jordan: Your analysis is a part of the obesity trend, but I think more responsible are fast food companies like McDonald’s who enticed us to eat large meals (think Jurasaic size in '91, and soft drinks, the greatest empty calorie addition to our diet in a century). Even now, such companies are advertising, buy one sandwich get one for a dollar, encouraging us to essentially eat twice as much.
Yep my poor friend would go to McDonald’s regularly because the dollar menu.
It’s called eugenics.
@@elliot1784 McDonald's is optimized for poor people. I can spend 10$ of McDonald's a month and still get free food... Which makes me come back when I do have money...
@@AimiWhatsHerFace optimized to kill* yep
It's not about size. It's not about quantity. It's about sugar content.
With a natural high-fat low-sugar diet, it's physically impossible to eat too much; consumption of fat triggers the release of the satiety hormone. It's why a normal healthy person shouldn't be able to consume an entire block of butter on its own without vomiting.
Sugar, meanwhile, flips off the satiety hormone. This is why "a spoonful of sugar makes the medicine go down" and "you always have room for dessert".
To point the finger at the fast food industry is to miss the point to a scary degree; it's not about them. It's about the food industry as a whole. The food you buy for the home. For your kids. The breakfast cereals. The orange juice you think is healthy. The snacks you give to your kids as little treats. It's loaded with fructose, and fructose is metabolized the same way as alcohol - meaning it's as damaging as alcohol.
In grade school I asked my teacher why flour needed to be enriched if humans were meant to eat that much. Teachers are not used to young kids using logic they don't have themselves.
I don’t think calories mean anything when it comes to fruits and vegetables. Eat all you want even starchy ones like bananas and plain potato. You won’t put on weight. But eat junk food with the same amount of calories and your gonna put on weight.
Incorrect.
Fructose is the reason "junk food" is so dangerous. Fructose is highly addictive, is metabolized like alcohol, and actively suppresses the satiety hormone.
Fructose is fruit sugar.
We were never meant to eat fruit all year-round. We were meant to eat it in season, for a couple of months.
I can’t help but think that Peterson’s argument in blaming the food pyramid is flawed. I don’t know a single person that ever based their daily diet on the food pyramid. Most people don’t even plan their diet consciously at all, let alone based on the food pyramid. As far as it points towards policies aimed at making carbs cheap, durable etc. _that_ is correct of course.
Blaming carbs for the rise in obesity makes sense, but I don’t see the food pyramid as the driver of that. In a place like Mexico where obesity is also heavily on the rise I would definitely suspect carbs as the biggest contributor as they’re in everything people eat (tortillas, beans, rice) in disproportion. Particularly, the less means people have, the more carbs they consume because they are relatively cheap.
In the US I’d go back to the drivers most people from outside the US always mention:
1. Oversized portions
2. Junk food and low quality/nutritional food (I get the impression that for a lot of people in the US the lion’s share of vegetables they consume are in the form of tomato sauce)
3. Snacks (always and everywhere available and constantly advertised just like the junk food)
And one factor that doesn’t seem to get much attention in relation to the rising overweight and obesity numbers: rising alcohol consumption (seems like this factor is at least dropping in the younger generations)
My husband is a cattle farmer in the beef industry. He cannot survive working without a high carb and high protein diet. I do cook nearly everything myself. I am very big on home cooked foods. If I ate the amount that he ate in a day, I would be obese, but he still remains all lean and skinny! 😅
I would be willing to bet that the carbohydrates your husband eats are not the processed crap that is making people sick.
The issue is sugar. If you're cooking home cooked foods for him, he's not consuming vast quantities of sugar - he's not consuming high fructose corn syrup.
It's not the carbs. It's the sugar.
If you ate the amount that he ate in a day, well... firstly you probably would put on a little weight, but not dangerously so. You'd become a standard chubby farmer's wife. But more likely, you simply wouldn't be able to keep it down; consumption of fat and protein triggers the release of the satiety hormone. If you don't eat sugar, which suppresses the satiety hormone, it's not physically possible to eat too much to a dangerous degree.
Just remember the Romans - they used to have those big feasts, where they'd eat and eat and eat and... vomit. And then eat again. They couldn't eat that much; they had to empty themselves to pull it off.
On January 1, 2023, I embarked on a weight loss journey. I weighed 224 pounds.
As of June 10, 2023, I weigh 185 pounds-almost a 40 pound weight loss in almost 6 months.
A big part of that weight loss was due to me significantly reducing my consumption of refined sugars, refined starches, and trans fats, and significantly increasing my consumption of protein, healthy fats, and fruits and vegetables.
My family doctor recommended that I restrict refined carbs as the one thing that would make a difference-which it has.
What puzzles me is this: I’ve heard of the Paleo diet, which is focused on eating the kinds of things we ate, say, 50,000 years ago. But never mind what we ate 50,000 years ago-what about what we ate 50 years ago? It seems that there was A LOT less obesity then. And we had A LOT of processed food then, like TV dinners, Tang, Wonder Bread, and Jell-O-probably more than today. What changed?
As a person who was introduced to TV dinners and Tang as a child, many of the "new" processed foods were only occasionally eaten. TV dinners tasted salty and Tang had a chemical taste. Jello was a novelty used in desserts brought to church suppers, but we did eat Wonder Bread. Biggest difference was the quantity. Back in 1962, a McDonald's hamburger was the size of today's slider. Their soda was smaller than today's small; same with the fries. We just didn't eat as much and the processed/fast foods were considered a treat.
I don't think the food pyramid has much to do with people getting fat. Most people ignore the food pyramid. Just look at the crap people put in their grocery cart, especially fat people. It's like they don't give a fuq
I see this everyday because I work at a grocery store...you are exactly right.
The food pyramid is followed by every nursing home, hospital, prison, school, and daycare. It truly effects a vast number of people. And our youth are learning to eat heavy carb meals by their school's food choices. It sets them up for a lifetime of failure.
As someone on WIC, it definitely affects many people
@@faithofamustardseed8198 Exactly! My daughter always got tons of bread and cereals when she was on WIC. The government controlled their diet to a very large extent. It was infuriating to watch.
@@wingabouts Low/no-fat dairy, beans, rice, cereal, store-brand peanut butter (hydrogenated vegetable oils), etc. The good things in Florida are sardines/canned fish and fruits & vegetables (can be organic, just a dollar limit).
I went on the Keto diet due to my blood glucose shooting up into the pre-diabetic stage. In 3 months, my blood sugar went from 121 to 83, and my weight dropped from 210 to 165. All I did was cut out the carbs and breakfast.
Keep an eye on the sugar. In particular, fructose - but it often gets called other things on packaging. That's the real danger behind it all, and it can sneak up on you. For example, people think a glass of orange juice is healthy somehow - it's not. Fructose is as bad for you as alcohol; it is metabolized in much the same way.
I never ever seen nobody go by the pyramid they go by easy and fast food look at McDonald's.
Never seen nobody ? Or do you mean “never seen ANYbody?” Changes the entire meaning of your point .
The current diet also optimizes a lot for storage life. It creates a lot of economic benefit to eat sugar and salt ridden food.
The winners of most marathons the Kenyans eat 80% starch. The longest lived the Okinawans ate 80% starch. Those who feel the best the Buddhist monks eat 80% starch. Starch: rice, corn, potatoes, beans, oats, wheat etc.
Processed vs unprocessed
Good point. I have been trying to tell the low carb community that starches don't cause disease, but they all believe that starches raise insulin, which causes metabolic diseases like diabetes, but the historical record does not reflect that. My research actually shows that metabolic diseases track PERFECTLY with fructose consumption, which is the sweet, addicting sugar. Glucose is blameless when it comes to disease in healthy people, true fact.
@@ClassicJukeboxBand You are right about insulin. Susanne Holt showed in many cases that meat raises insulin more than starches. Pritikin put people on a high carb diet and their insulin dropped 50%. I think fructose in fruit is good, but if you extract it, it is poison.
@@davidclark2592 Protein raises insulin, right? I thought starches raised it more.
In China, obesity was very low because of wet markets. People had homesteads and would come together to sell food so it was local and fresh. They ate a diet high in rice and low in meat (though they believed vegetarian is unhealthy even monks would eat meat given to on them as gifts).
People want to blame the government or entire food groups for their health, but the truth is it's everyone's fault. People eat garbage in large quantities and sit around a lot doing nothing physical. They blame carbs or sugar and act like they aren't eating fast food for two meals a day and Twinkies for the other one.
Having just returned from a grocery run, this senior can assure you most people must choose carbs because fruit and veggies are no longer affordable especially in the quantities outlined in the food guides It is no longer a problem of the poor....anyone on a fixed income just has to leave healthy behind. ie one cauliflower is $7.00 Cdn
Janiece - When money is not spent on sugar drinks, snacks, biscuits, potato chips. Junk food, processed foods. Then one can afford fresh veggies. When the body has nutrients daily, then ones appetite for junk food decrease. The British during WW2 were healthier due to food rationing. We can live on one meal a day, fresh veggies are not expensive when the snacks are omitted. Water is not expensive compared to sugar drinks. To steam veggies is easy and quick....better than a trip to the take out door. Intermittent Fasting is a great way to control blood sugar....type 2 diabetes and stroke will become less prevalent and deadly. 😊
@Zoomby I have 2 toddlers that seem to never stop eating. I never realized how much I'd be spending on groceries, and all we really eat is meat, fruit, and veg. Our money is not spent on sugar and junk, but our bill is still rather high at the moment. I can only imagine how much food I'm going to have to buy in just a few years 🫠😆
@@zoomby4380 It's great that you can afford all the fresh vegetables that you need, but Janiece's point still stands for anybody with a low income.
Regular ground beef is $10.00@kg at my butcher shop. Solid food for a hard days work. Or two heads of lettuce with absolutely no food value. I can't afford to eat junk.
Frozen vegetables, and ground meat.
I've ignored the food pyramid for decades. I eat what I need. I eat either a bowl of cerael or three waffles and a glass of water a glass of milk and orange juice for a breakfast. For a lunch, I eat a turkey or salami sub sandwich that fits I to the palm of my hand from middle finger to wrist.
With it I drink a can of pop and a big glass of water. For dinner, I may eat too plain burgers (home made) a glass of water, and maybe a pop or a glass of fruit juice. Besides that, and possibly eating out two times a week at KFC, I don't snack in between. I have maintained a healthy body weight of up to 176, and I don't always crave more and more food to eat.
Yet all of these other people who rely upon caffeine and energy boosts and over eating all the time, just can seem to make it through the day and are exhausted by the end.
Why? Just as I disciplined my body the right way, they disciplined their bodies the wrong way. I trained myself to only eat what it needs and they trained theirs to eat more. It's all about lifestyle choice.
I call it, the air conditioning effect. The air conditioned generation. They get themselves dependant upon it so that even in 50 degree weather, they "feel" hot.
I've gotten my body to the point that it doesn't like over eating. More than two Butterfingers is not pleasurable for me.
"I eat either a bowl of cerael or three waffles and a glass of water a glass of milk and orange juice for a breakfast"
Fun facts for you:
The stuff you're consuming is absolutely loaded with fructose. Fruit sugar.
Fun facts about fructose:
It's as addictive as the hardest of drugs. It is metabolized by the body in almost exactly the same way as alcohol (which is not surprising when you realise that alcohol is, for example, fermented fruit). As such, it is as damaging to the body as alcohol.
Consuming fructose suppresses the satiety hormone - this is why you "always have room for dessert".
Now, you might have managed to fight off the Leptin-suppressing effects of the fructose you're evidently eating... but here's a sobering thought for you:
Obesity isn't the issue. It's an outward symptom. You can have metabolic syndrome - the underlying dysfunction and internal collapse that causes all the actual health problems associated with obesity - without being outwardly obese.
"...I trained myself to only eat what it needs..."
"...and maybe a pop or a glass of fruit juice..."
In other words, you're a junkie, and you don't know it. You didn't train it - it trained you.
Dr Berg has been talking about this for years. Keto is the bomb.
In my public health classes, I always argued the price of fast food versus the price of fruit and veges. Nothing solved that problem. For $12 I can get a large soda, burger and fries (all of which is trash, full of sodium, sugar and fillers) to like 4 apples, a couple bananas and maybe a potato or two (being a bit extreme) but that is the reality. We also don't factor the time to cook. Now one can say, there are healthier options and I completely agree but for the people working two to three jobs to make ends meet. Pizza every night is a cheap and time efficient option. No matter what, until there is a solution for the growing addiction of fast food versus home cooked healthy meals. Americans more than other cultures will continue to face the obesity, diabetes and heart disease issues.
Dr Attia is my hero!!!!!
In Canada, I remember as a child learning about the "4 food groups." Bread-n-cereals, milk, fruits-n-vegetables, and meats. *_ALL DIVIDED IN EQUAL QUARTERS._* One must not anger any lobbies after all.
My diet recently is like this :
- tenderloin, white saussage, eggs, white cheese, lettuce, rucola, tomato, basil, oregano, garlic, parsley, black olives, pickled cabbage juice, cashew nuts, chestnuts, blueberries, ginger syrup (sweet but only a tablespoon to a cup of hot water), cinnamon tea, rooibos tea, lavender tea, dandelion honey, pomegranade juice, blackberry juice, and very small amount of little cinnamon bisquits (like 3 or 4 per day) and now I feel good :) no coffee, rarely black tea, no sugar in tea, no sweets, no jam, no pasta, no noodles, no chocolates, no icecream, I quit even nuts in chocolate, and esp no sodas.
But I thought black tea is full of antioxidants and is healthy for some people? I know some people cannot do well on caffeine, but studies show coffee is full of antioxidants and healthy.
@@underated17 antioxidants in general are two sided sword :) but in my case I just drunk too much of coffee and black tea and got small problems with digesting - probably too much of acids from coffee and tea. So for now I just avoid black tea, though not always, just drink it rarely or with milk.
Support small businesses in your community and read the labels of what you consume. I live in Wisconsin, but have lived all over, even abroad, and my first reaction to coming back was how fat everyone is. Full families, mom, dad, and kids are all fat. It's really sad.
Amazing how expensive processed food has become relative to the healthy whole foods I thrive on now. Pottenger's cats research should have been the basis for our food pyramid!
I did not know about Pottenger's cats. Thank you!
@@underated17 This might get removed but one of my favorite vintage summaries of the research ruclips.net/video/wGlSK39ZnCw/видео.html
Man of culture right here.
If we should have used Pottenger's cat's research for our food pyramid does that make us animals too?
@@underated17 humans are animals
When i was a kid. fruit and veg were at the bottom. Cereals were 2nd from the bottom and meat/fish were 3rd. I always thought grains/potatoes were only a bulking agent. To make up the extra space on the plate. Try eating carbs after eating half a chicken.
BAN SEED OILS!!!!
Carbohydrates have been a mainstay in our diet for over 4000 years, it's not carbs. Some evidence does point to excess cooked vegetable oils ...
Ancel Keys played a huge role in this.
An accurate comment, but one that nobody will understand, because they don't know the history.
Just more nuanced and intelligent info from our man Jordan. It never stops, Thank God. Top notch and right on. Putting aside conspiracy theories and the food industry, yes, more or less we are victims of our own success.
I believe that the reason why diabetes and high blood pressure is so prevalent in the black community is because they went from a high protein hunter-gatherer diet to an insanely high grain based diet. Their bodies can't process and adapt to these kind of carbs.
No they just have a really strong food culture and really enjoy food.
Your habits is 100% capable of overriding genetics (with time). You won't have major issues with diabetes if you eat in moderation and exercise.
That said, there are other problems with grain heavy diets imo. But not inherently diabetes.
"I believe that the reason why diabetes and high blood pressure is so prevalent in the black community is because they went from a high protein hunter-gatherer diet to an insanely high grain based diet."
You are entirely incorrect.
It's because they've been targeted the most heavily by cheap, readily-available high-fructose food and drink.
Fructose is highly addictive, is metabolized like alcohol, and suppresses the satiety hormone. Most concentrated source? Soft drinks and condiments.
@@NicholasBrakespear type 2 diabetes comes from insulin resistance, which is triggered by excessive glucose in the blood for a long time.
either glucose containing sugars or carbs can do this, sugars do it faster because it digests really quickly. glucose isn't digested at all and is absorbed directly into the bloodstream from the gut
I remember even in school they taught us to go look at the food pyramid for a guide on what to eat.
Everything is a lie
My late veterinarian husband who also had a degree in physiology, always maintained that the food pyramid was used to fatten calves and was unhealthy for humans. There is no such thing as carbohydrate deficiency in humans, but there is of protein, vitamins and other elements which we need to remain healthy.