Stuart Lancaster | How to beat the Springboks | Wednesday Night Rugby
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- Опубликовано: 8 июн 2021
- Joe Molloy is joined by Leinster senior coach Stuart Lancaster on tonight's Wednesday Night Rugby, as we look ahead to the British and Irish Lions tour of South Africa, and ask Stuart how he would try beat the world champions.
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This reminds me of a quote from Mike Tyson - everyone has a plan until you start getting hit in the face .
Lmao point.
POINT!!!!
Exactly
Lol and the Springboks like their hits
You need to introduce load shedding in Britain, it will make you so angry you will be able to run through any defense just thinking about it.
players will take a knee against "brown outs" and the crowd will be unaminously on their side.
@@powerbite92 Hahahahaha you made my day! Thank you!
@@powerbite92 Bright Lights matter!
"How to beat the Springboks" by Stuart Lancaster, a man with a "played 5, drawn 1" record against the Springboks. Hilarious. I might even watch for fun.
Its actually interesting that most people don't know that Rassie and Nienaber are very different as coaches.
I mean Nienaber believes that players must move the ball and get the job done in set pieces.
Where as Rassie believes in getting the job done, the style is not that important, he respects the DNA of a side but he will change it, if it doesn't work or suit the squad(Main reason he is the Director of Rugby).
I think Lancaster is wrong about our ability over the ball. Apart from Louw who won't feature of course, we have Vermeulen and our hookers Marx and Mbonambi who are world class over the ball. If they would come on either Coetzee or Van Staaden are also terrors. Even Kitshoff, Nyakane and in the backs De Allende are tough to shift at the rucks while, if there isn't much support out wide, Am and Kolbe have been known to poach a few or rather, play for the penalty.
Kyle Sinckler injury was not the reason England struggled in the scrums, he might be a great ball carrier, but he isn’t a great scrummer
@@sakabula1285 The game against Wales was also quite brutal.
@@bradleypenrith and England played a game less
Sinckler is over-rated.
Any prop on that day. Would have gotten smashed by boks.
@@jimmy-dt3tl You’re probably right, Beast was highly motivated on the day
Always good to hear from Stu 💙🏉💙
Really, why is that? He didn't even make England qualify for the quarter finals in their own World Cup in 2015 and he never have beat the springboks with England
This is fascinating and adds so much more to my basic understanding of the the game. Stuart is articulate in his insight and given the space to talk and think it through. I wish more podcasts would give the platform to in depth tactics as opposed to personalities and abilities and what a player can or can't bring to the party. Its a team game...It's a team game. Great stuff 👏😃
He has never beaten the boks
@@Clutchtheclownz George Best never went to a world cup
The fact of the matter is that the Boks under Rassie and Nienaber are still a improving/growing squad with incredible depth and many young players still to realise their full potential. Their defence has been for many years the best in the world. (No tries against the Boks in three WC Finals).
The emergence of many players of colour especially amongst the backs has added substantial speed and skill to the Boks backline.
It should be a good contest but I just cant see how the Lions forwards will compete with players like, P S Du Toit, J Wiese, Duane if available, the Du Preez Brothers, M Coetzee, Eben, Lood, Snyman, Mostert, Kitshoff, Marx, Mbonambi, T Du Toit etc.
The Boks might surprise and kick less than expected and retain possession for more phases. They have the backline to play attacking rugby and look even better/stronger and more dangerous with ball in hand than the kicking game.
Pollard, Allende and Am could make life very difficult in the midfield for the Lions by gaining the advantage line instead of excess kicking. As Stuart Lancaster said playing a full open game is suicide against the Boks as they thrive on defence and counter attack. Sorry to sound too pessimistic but the Lions are going to struggle in the lineouts and front row.
Notwithstanding the above, there are many unforeseen factors in the current game that have a major affect on the outcome of tests such as the yellow and red card rules and the interpretation of high, late, neck tackles etc.
The Lions itinerary is extremely and maybe even too demanding. Playing the Lions, Stormers, Sharks, Bulls and SA "A" in two to three weeks and then three tests against the Boks makes Hercules 12 Labour's look like a picnic. Whoever agreed to this itinerary did not consider the physical and psychological impact thereof on the players.
After all is said and done I agree with Willie John Mcbride that the Lions Tour should only take place once crowds are again allowed to attend rugby matches. Surely postponing the Lions Tour to 2022 is not impossible. With loadshedding in SA the chances are that millions of SAricans will not even be able to watch the tests live.
I didnt get why the Boks in the WC played such a negative game. So much ball on the front foot and yet they just kicked it away all the time. They called it the 'slow poison' but the could have scored alot of quick tries instead.
SAs 4 provincial teams aren't that great anymore and I doubt whether any Bok will play against the Lions
@@powerbite92 Yeah, it's strange. When Springboks do play direct ball in hand they can dominate teams quite easily. Best example is that home game against the All Blacks where they dominated the All blacks for 70 mins (until the subs came on).
I guess that gameplan was specific to winning the world cup because it thrives off errors and pressure.
@@powerbite92 Check out Squidge rugby. It wasn't negative at all, misunderstood by fans, but not negative, a misperception I do feel very much fueled by a clueless and biased 'TV' media. Squidge really explains the tactic/strategy better than anybody.
Mark Willies wtf are you talking about?
I am a Bok fan but total respect for Lancaster - the best rugby analysis I have heard. Good interview! More please... :-)
Did he even beat the boks with England lol?
Awesome pod! 👌 Thanks gents.👍
Stuart Lancaster, what a great guy. We are lucky to have him. Hope he stays on. Gem
If you want to know how to beat the Springboks in South Africa perhaps you should ask those that know how to do it and have been able to do it consistently over a long time. Since 2000 the All Blacks have played the Springboks in SA 21 times. They have been successful 13 times. No other team has anywhere near the same level of success against the Springboks in their own backyard.
well to be fair no team has such also has much success against the All Blacks and not every country has skillful players like the ABs
Also South Africa is the most team who beat New zealand at welligton in 2018, no others teams make that, im french but SA and the boks is the first team whoo beat the 2 times NZ in 2009 champions rugby all the respect to theses country in europe we talks To munch less rugby
@@meloonegta Over same period of time since 2000 both sides have met in NZ 21 times . NZ have won 17 and SA 3 with 1 draw. SA are the most successful side against NZ but to be fair a total 14 wins in 60 matches over that time although the best of any side is a long way from being consistently competitive.
@@MrAhuapai munch appréciate your kinds
Yes but your boys only managed a draw last time out against the Lions...at HOME!
Credit to Joe Molloy, who is a very knowledgeable rugby presenter and commentator, but when Lancaster's massive rugby brain took us into the twilight zone of deep analysis and outcomes , Joe knew enough just to shut up and let the rugby nerds listening either absorb it or let it go over their heads and start again with the next question.
Over optimistic if not unrealistic SA support here. I expect them to take us on at our strong points. It sounds as if we 're predictable in our pattern according to the English.........We can choose a very mobile pack of forwards that can play a fast game too..... Kwagga Smit- strong and skilled sevens player and ox at prop with Pieter Stef du Toit at lock for 40 minutes...... Protecting Faf and the quick ball is going to be vital.
SA 3-0 Victory!
You don't, you just don't beat the Boks! 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
@@sakabula1285 I'm not. We got this!
Will still be a decent tour for both sides 🇮🇪🙏
@@LB_die_Kaapie Don't be so arrogant. Lions have won one of the last two tours; and even though the Bokks won the last one, it was very close - so you can indeed beat the Bokks, and many teams do!
You don't beat the Boks? Hold my Sushi 🍣 🇯🇵
@@edwardcorry9598 and look how we smashed them in the WC lol
Weird because he has never beaten the the boks. Like ever !
Following that logic we should never hire any new coaches, just recycle the same coaches until they all retire.
But please comment some more, your narrow-mindedness amuses me.
Wales came close in the Semi's. The key is to play boring rugby without the ball like they did against the Boks in between World Cups and had so much success.
vermeulen. marx, kitshoff, lukhanyo am and de allende all good over the ball in ruck time, bongi or dweba not bad either when coming off the bench, kwagga smith and van staden whoever is picked will fill the francois louw role in poaching. Id say you are wrong about south africa not having many threats over the ball...not to mention if coetzee proves himself fit and is selected.
He makes a point. Overwhelmingly it's size and impact over body position and technique. You mention Kwagga Smith, he won't be playing. Before him you may as well go back to Brussow for an out and out ground hog.
@@fergalbannon4614 Im just noting that he said that surprisingly south africa don't have many "jackals" That is not the case whatsoever, the boks might not have a fetcher like brussow per say but they have multiple players that good over the ball, some even world class in that area such as marx and vermeulen. I mentioned kwagga smith as an example as one of many. Personally i don't think he will be in the 23 but because he is versatile as he can play on the wings because of his sevens experience, and because they will go with a 6-2 split, i will not be at all surprised if he makes the 23 on match day. if not it might be van staden who is even better, if not him it could be coetzee if he proves fit. All phenomenal "jackals"
🤣🤣 Rassie must have had a good laugh, this toad has never won against us when as a player /coach....
We are World Champions 🇿🇦🏆🇿🇦
Lmao no man I had to come back here, This is all 🧢 like this dude has NEVER beaten the Boks as the coach of England yet he wanna talk? 😂
I love the comment "How did South Africa win the final, well they killed them at the scrum and Kolbe got a cool try at the end, that was it". Really did this guy actually watch the game?
Please remind me how many times did this 'couch' beet Springboks? Just can't remember his record, please help my old man failing memory....
I actually thought he made England look better in lots of ways....selection issues sometimes the problem ... (from the outside it almost looked political).....but I enjoyed watching our boys knock his boys out of the world Cup 2015...
@@leonardodavinci7425 he knows the game, fair play, he's done good things since and is great to listen to
His point about centres, I recon tiparic would make a good impact centre ..
You must be Australian as it was they who knocked England out.
@@Jamie-kf2vfto be fair both can claim credit..I will go with the Welsh.. being of a lower class makes the result so sweet...the English assumed they had the better of us...
@@jdjones4825 Wales deserved to win. Some shocking decisions (taking Burgess off turned the game). I don't attribute it to Robshaw's decision as that was just a symptom of the circumstances. You wouldn't expect any team to relinquish such a large lead. At least they achieved redemption somewhat in 2019.
big fan of stuart
To beat the Springboks the Lions have to pitch up.
One of our Rainbow Cup matches over this past weekend involving our Lions was cancelled coz of Covid.
So cud be difficult for Lions to beat anyone if this continues.
Maybe shud stick to Japan for the moment.
How to beat the Boks? Did you exit the group stages in 2015? 😂
Of course, one shouldn't completely ignore tackling high, to stop them offloading. As long as you use your arms.
That ball and all tackle is going to slowly but surely become a thing of the past. Shoestring tackle or risk the chance of someone ducking into it and you end up being 'redded'.
Lol everyone has a plan until you start getting hit in the face 😹
Good questions from the host. Asked particular questions, not a bunch of generic ones, you can tell he's thought about some of those issues seriously and is genuinely interested in the response. Good interview, a bit technical at times but hey.
I think it is contestable that Boks don't have fetches. I think what is true is Boks don't play an out and out fetcher, but they don't have to because they have hybrid players who can carry and fetch. Marx is a Menace-better than Bismark who was no slouch. Vermulen can fetch, PS du Toit can do it, de Allende and Am both can. There was a time when I used to dispair that they would not play Brussow, he is the one out and out SA has had that I can remember and Meyer seemed to have had something against him. If memory serves me well he never lost a game against the Abs although he did not play that many. Probably his injury was the reason that 2011 ended as it did.
We dont have fetchers? Haha okay keep believing that lol
Boks don't play a jackal game. It's true. If they go there as a game plan they go against their D. Loads of talented men over the ball, but that's not the point
LB Saffa did you even read this guys comment before you shat from your mouth haha.
Lol, how would Lancaster know how to beat the boks if he couldn't beat the boks himself with England at all. England played 5 times against the boks under Lancaster, they lost 4/5 against the boks and drawn 1/5 against the boks. No wins 😂
Contrasting styles
Lol coming from a man who has never beaten the boks, lol 😂😂😂😂😂
The frig would he know?
Can't see how the Boks who last played a test in 2019 are going to beat the well prepared B&I Lions who had 6 Nations as part of their preparations.
The Springboks haven't played as a team since 2019 but then the B and I Lions last played together four years ago. A settled squad and coaching staff with some exciting new talent vs a mixture of four home unions and an unknown quantity in the coaching staff of the Lions. There are a number of other variables combined with the English mindset in the Lions that a few points losing margin, as in Wales vs SA at RWC 2019, means you're competitve and the opponents are not so good while in fact you were dominated in every facet of play while being easily held out. Then add the belief since the early 70s that the only way to beat the Boks is to bully them physically with countless off the ball incidents while not realizing your own team then gets penalized which is going to cost your team points or territory and destroy any momentum yet your players persist with that strategy, means the Springboks will always be in the game with an even chance and the Lions will most probably throw away certain wins just like England did in 2018.
Only way to beat the Boks is to dig into a reserve which you will never have....each day in SA is a battle, that adversity you will never be able to draw upon.
They’re not this unbeatable team with an incredible infrastructure and winning record, they’re not the All Blacks, they are a fantastic team yes but they’re not unbeatable
S.A. has won 3 our of 6 world cups. That's pretty dominant
My only question is, how would he know? The best England ever managed against the Boks during his time in charge was a 14-14 draw against 3 consecutive defeats. Always seems like a really nice guy, but that record ain't pretty.
Dude this is loose strategic analysis based on the last few games the Boks played...which was almost 2 years ago.
Of course he doesnt know what will happen...where you have managed to even interpret that conclusion from is my question...
He could not do it as a player or coach what has change??
How to beat the springboks?? Ask the All Blacks🤣🤣
True... lol *hides face
ProudlyBokke
True only team that can really say that
Disappointed Stuart is doing this for real. I hope as a minimum Warren had a word.
What are you on about🤡🤡🤡
what ciaran said
The salt in wee Joe's tone when he speaks about Townsend, Russell etc. is palpable! Are the Irish so triggered about sexton et al not getting picked for the Tour, they can't hide their ire?............
PS. I reckon the Tour will be decided on Red Cards..... dangerous high tackles are so ingrained in the Boks DNA, when it comes to the Lions I can't help but feel the Boks high tackling will be unavoidable.
Right. Clearing out rucks is also being policed more closely now. TMO’s will catch anything the ref doesn’t. The tackle and collision area will be crucial. Tackle high and you risk a card. Tackle low and you leave the door open for an offload.
What absolute twaddle - there was zero salt in anything he said, you child; grow up!
@@DaSkonk All that salt is clouding your judgement son! Get mummy to dry those tears!
@@oldmanwillyboy2786 Lancaster was alluding to the fact that picking Harris in the centres was a backward step.
@@powerbite92 I didn't mention Lancaster.
Joke