I am a Novak Djokovic supporter, but I can't deny the greatness of Rafael Nadal. Nadal has been battling injuries since he was 19 years old. He missed practice sessions, matches, and many things that life has to offer due to injuries. Despite all that, he won 22 GSs. Imagine what he would have achieved had he not suffered that many injuries.
Yes the aggression and heavy topspin for sure. But Alcaraz can hit both spin and flat, plus can lob and drop shot. He is also coming to the net and volleying early in his career. Nadal was very much a baseliner most of his career, Alcaraz I would say has more variety in his game. Granted, I don't think anyone will ever be as good as Nadal on clay, not even Alcaraz. But across all surfaces, Alcaraz has the potential to win many slams and challenge the GOAT's legacy if he remains fit and injury free for the next 15 years.
Don't compare alcaraz with great rafa ..He can't be equal to rafa achievements in tennis..Rafa at age 19 defeated prime fed in semis and won 11 titles but alcaraz played Ruud in US Open to win his first slam ..Rafa has many unbreakable clay streak in teenage years but alcaraz is losing to guys like sinner ,norrie, newbie in Rome etc. There are many stats which says alcaraz achievements are not enough to compare with rafa ..don't fool yourself
@@nate9198the main reason of alcaraz success because he has no rivals in his era compared to big 3 era ..sinner ,Ruud , Tsitsipas Zverev are struggling to win a slam but rafa , Djokovic,fed played many slam finals with many 5 setter victories and toughest losses
What about, let their careers speak from themselves before speculating si much bs, tennis has become like the most idiotic discussions, everyone it's the next goat until they arent, hewitt was n1 and winning Masters and gs at 20, that didn't stop Roger to obliterate him Even if he peaked after...tennis it's a marathon, not a Sprint...
Interesting how they both had the same first versions of Babolat Pure Drives called Soft Drive. If I recall it was Moya who introduced these to Nadal and other Spanish players in 1994 when Pierre Babolat went from just a stringing company(the oldest) to also a racquet company. Curious to know what exact strings they were both using even though Moya and Nadal mostly used RPMs. Looks like Hurricane strings for Nadal which he was using for ages.
2024. Today I watched Nadal play 16-year old Blanch on Tennis TV - and credit to the kid for taking a game off Rafa in Madrid. I had forgotten about 16-year old Rafa. 🤣Not comparing at all, b/c it would be unfair, but love this reminder of a genius child prodigy on display. Having all the shots at 16 is impressive enough, but as the commentator said, to have the tactical awareness and shot selection under pressure is mind blowing. Funny that Rafa had such a man grunt even at 16 -- that hasn't changed at all. 🤣
Nadal had 17 titles or something before 20 including hard court masters and made wimbledon finals only to lose to prime Federer but some casuals want to tell me that Alcaraz at his age is "more complete"
Bruh if you can’t see the difference in the level of play that it takes to hold two majors at the age of 20 from 2006 to now then it doesn’t matter what anyone says to you. Alcaraz beat the guy in front of him - just as good if not better than Federer - in his first Wimbledon final; Nadal did not. The claim is legit.
@@hardwarenoob0815 We will never arrive anywhere meaningful if I give a yes or no answer to that question - all I can say is that it’s reasonable to suggest so; if you disagree that’s also reasonable. Alcaraz beat a who’s who of in-form talent to win USO2022 despite not facing Djokovic. Nadal also dismissed premier talent for his first major, but the standard is arguably higher now. Overall, my point is that its absurd to dismiss someone as a “casual” because they note Alcaraz uses a significantly deeper bag of tricks to win matches than Nadal did when he was the same age.
Well you clearly don't understand what people mean when they describe Alcaraz as "more complete". Nadal's game was and still is adapted primarily to clay due to his powerful baseline game where he controls rallies with his high, looping, lefty forehand. Extremely talented of course but didn't get to where his net game is now until much later in his career, as well as his serve and shot variety. Alcaraz has improved his serve massively (still a long way to go), has incredible shot variety and also has a very solid net game at the age of 20, hence being "more complete". The vast majority of titles that Nadal won prior to being 21 were mostly clay with a few hard courts sprinkled in, whereas Alcaraz has titles on all three surfaces. The proof is in the pudding.
He won U10 tournys at 8, he won U12 tournys at 12, here he won against a top 5 player aged 16. He has just invested hours and hours in tennis in the first 16 years of his life, most days probably 4 hours or more at a tennis court. This is the result, 22GS, 36 Masters, 92 Titles, olympic gold singles and doubles, etc etc
I’m a month older than Nadal and when my parents found this out this fact, they said “where are all your grand slam trophies?”, so I looked at them and said “where are all YOUR grand slam trophies?”
What a incredible player Nadal is. His movement and clean ball striking, with so much spin and power. Really, honestly, best player on clay for sure, no doubt. It's great too see him play. In overall, Djokovic is the best ever, but it will always be a debate who was second best, him or Federer? 🤔
Nadal is one of a kind. Looks like he was born ready. It’s pretty rare to see someone with such personality and self-awareness.
I am a Novak Djokovic supporter, but I can't deny the greatness of Rafael Nadal. Nadal has been battling injuries since he was 19 years old. He missed practice sessions, matches, and many things that life has to offer due to injuries. Despite all that, he won 22 GSs. Imagine what he would have achieved had he not suffered that many injuries.
If if it doesn’t exisr
I am a supporter of newspapers, but I can’t deny the greatness of the internet.
Fair enough
@@AinSoph73 LOL.
I'm a supporter of Putin but can't deny the greatness of Zelenski !
people who say they don't see Nadal in Alcaraz are crazy. Their techniques might not be similar but their tenacity and court coverage are.
Yes the aggression and heavy topspin for sure. But Alcaraz can hit both spin and flat, plus can lob and drop shot. He is also coming to the net and volleying early in his career. Nadal was very much a baseliner most of his career, Alcaraz I would say has more variety in his game. Granted, I don't think anyone will ever be as good as Nadal on clay, not even Alcaraz. But across all surfaces, Alcaraz has the potential to win many slams and challenge the GOAT's legacy if he remains fit and injury free for the next 15 years.
Don't compare alcaraz with great rafa ..He can't be equal to rafa achievements in tennis..Rafa at age 19 defeated prime fed in semis and won 11 titles but alcaraz played Ruud in US Open to win his first slam ..Rafa has many unbreakable clay streak in teenage years but alcaraz is losing to guys like sinner ,norrie, newbie in Rome etc. There are many stats which says alcaraz achievements are not enough to compare with rafa ..don't fool yourself
@@nate9198the main reason of alcaraz success because he has no rivals in his era compared to big 3 era ..sinner ,Ruud , Tsitsipas Zverev are struggling to win a slam but rafa , Djokovic,fed played many slam finals with many 5 setter victories and toughest losses
Alcaraz is like a Federer and Djokovic mix
What about, let their careers speak from themselves before speculating si much bs, tennis has become like the most idiotic discussions, everyone it's the next goat until they arent, hewitt was n1 and winning Masters and gs at 20, that didn't stop Roger to obliterate him Even if he peaked after...tennis it's a marathon, not a Sprint...
Who would possibly have thought that this very kid from Spain would one fine day reign supreme on clay with 14 French Open tiles ✨🏆
Who? Carlos Moya, for one.
Thanks a lot, Tennis TV. For making me feel useless at age 21 😅
21 = 11, don’t sweat it
The new eleven
Move your asss!!!!!
Even Sinner doesn't feel useless without achieving anything at 21
RUclips見てないでスイングするのです。
I appreciate Tennis TV for making me feel even more insecure about my game
What a young man😮 Rafa He had strength at that time🙄, 16 years is something🙆♂️ unbelievable. 👏☝️
One of my fav. mach...thanks
Tennis TV
Interesting how they both had the same first versions of Babolat Pure Drives called Soft Drive. If I recall it was Moya who introduced these to Nadal and other Spanish players in 1994 when Pierre Babolat went from just a stringing company(the oldest) to also a racquet company. Curious to know what exact strings they were both using even though Moya and Nadal mostly used RPMs. Looks like Hurricane strings for Nadal which he was using for ages.
2024. Today I watched Nadal play 16-year old Blanch on Tennis TV - and credit to the kid for taking a game off Rafa in Madrid. I had forgotten about 16-year old Rafa. 🤣Not comparing at all, b/c it would be unfair, but love this reminder of a genius child prodigy on display. Having all the shots at 16 is impressive enough, but as the commentator said, to have the tactical awareness and shot selection under pressure is mind blowing. Funny that Rafa had such a man grunt even at 16 -- that hasn't changed at all. 🤣
I won a poker tournament at a Catholic fiesta when I was 12 thank you very much! 😂 The prize was a bottle of wine 🍷
This is a funny match. A natural right hander Nadal playing against a natural left hander Moya.
Insane at 16
The way nadal react so calmly after beating world number 4 is crazy
....desde sempre respeitoso com seus adversários....
Nadal had 17 titles or something before 20 including hard court masters and made wimbledon finals only to lose to prime Federer but some casuals want to tell me that Alcaraz at his age is "more complete"
Facts
Bruh if you can’t see the difference in the level of play that it takes to hold two majors at the age of 20 from 2006 to now then it doesn’t matter what anyone says to you. Alcaraz beat the guy in front of him - just as good if not better than Federer - in his first Wimbledon final; Nadal did not. The claim is legit.
@@AinSoph73 Djokovic better on grass than mid 20s Federer ? And Novak didn't even play USO2022.
@@hardwarenoob0815 We will never arrive anywhere meaningful if I give a yes or no answer to that question - all I can say is that it’s reasonable to suggest so; if you disagree that’s also reasonable.
Alcaraz beat a who’s who of in-form talent to win USO2022 despite not facing Djokovic. Nadal also dismissed premier talent for his first major, but the standard is arguably higher now.
Overall, my point is that its absurd to dismiss someone as a “casual” because they note Alcaraz uses a significantly deeper bag of tricks to win matches than Nadal did when he was the same age.
Well you clearly don't understand what people mean when they describe Alcaraz as "more complete". Nadal's game was and still is adapted primarily to clay due to his powerful baseline game where he controls rallies with his high, looping, lefty forehand. Extremely talented of course but didn't get to where his net game is now until much later in his career, as well as his serve and shot variety. Alcaraz has improved his serve massively (still a long way to go), has incredible shot variety and also has a very solid net game at the age of 20, hence being "more complete". The vast majority of titles that Nadal won prior to being 21 were mostly clay with a few hard courts sprinkled in, whereas Alcaraz has titles on all three surfaces. The proof is in the pudding.
Just imagine beating a top 6 player at the age of 16 and being compared to Alcaraz.
Alcaraz is being compared to Nadal lmao At 16 Alcaraz was no where close to Nadal at 16
The umpire of the match is still an umpire till this day that's crazy !
Thats not crazy. Umpire have longer carrers than players. Mohamad Layani was umpire of Sampras in the 90s and is still today
That's Carlos Bernardes.
He won U10 tournys at 8, he won U12 tournys at 12, here he won against a top 5 player aged 16.
He has just invested hours and hours in tennis in the first 16 years of his life, most days probably 4 hours or more at a tennis court.
This is the result, 22GS, 36 Masters, 92 Titles, olympic gold singles and doubles, etc etc
@9:19 closest Rafa has ever gotten to breaking a racket
Man Carlos Bernardes has been involved with Rafa's matches since the start huh 😅
Can you imagine? To have a front row seat to watch this match and then watch Rafa win 14 RGs? LOL
I’m a month older than Nadal and when my parents found this out this fact, they said “where are all your grand slam trophies?”, so I looked at them and said “where are all YOUR grand slam trophies?”
I really hope nadal comes back this year
At age 16 i was still getting beaten up by my coach everyday lol
6:31 early game announcement, the ball hasn't even dropped yet
🤣 good catch
Moya's biggest weakness was always his backhand. Not a reliable shot. Rafa on the other hand had superior strokes on both wings. ❤
Disagree. Moya's bigest weakness was twofold: His head for one, and he also wasn't fast enough in his feet movements.
Love seeing that vintage lion king advert
Damn the the title made me wondering I waste so many times when I was 16
Sa bromance avec Carlos Bernardes n'avait pas encore commencé 😂😂😂
He also beat Carlos Alcaraz coach Ferrero
why did we went from short shorts, then long shorts in the mid 2000s, and then short shorts again from 2010s?
At the age of 16, Rafa easily beat Moya.We hope that Rafa will be back soon.😍
I was Young and Had fun with First girlfriend and Partys . I miss this time
Nadal beat his coach (Moya), Federer beat his coach (Ljubicic), Novak beat his coach (Murray)
did he still coach nadal if he lost?
Nadal seemed like he felt bad defeating his master.
fr tho
13:26
So Nadal learned more in winning against Moya than from his rare losses 🤔😂
to be this good at age 16....like WTF
The best teenager of all time for me (but overall djokovic is better ahah)
What a incredible player Nadal is. His movement and clean ball striking, with so much spin and power. Really, honestly, best player on clay for sure, no doubt. It's great too see him play. In overall, Djokovic is the best ever, but it will always be a debate who was second best, him or Federer? 🤔
👍👍👍
Oh boy nadal fans r so salty towards alcaraz in comment sevtion😂
What's the name of the commentator With the posh English accent?
He did atp commentary late 90s through early 2000s. He was an older guy ….. I don’t think he is still with us
@@vivahernando1 yeah I've heard his voice before I just don't know what his name is.
Jason Goodall
nadal is the goat of clay.
👍🏼👍🏼
I was smoking cigarettes behind an ampm gas station
Moya was playing like a former n1, Nadal was playing like a 22 GS champion
Prefiero al nadal joven era el mas vistoso de ver cuando corria la cancha
wtf is this commentator lol SHHHHEDuling
What was I doing at 16?
Wanking an unhealthy about of times a day, smoking bud and watching cartoons.