The WORST Tornado Shelter
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- Опубликовано: 4 сен 2023
- Of all of the places to take shelter in a tornado, there are none that are worse than mobile home. In this video, we dive into the dangers of why mobile homes can be lethal in tornadoes, the alarming statistics, how this became a problem, and what can be done to keep yourself safe if you live in mobile home in a tornado hot spot.
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Another great production! Awesome work researching the content and assembling the visuals. Keep 'em coming!
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these are SO WELL DONE. I had the pleasure of speaking with the Perryton veterinarian who generously donated his time to help all the animals with surgery. Such a wonderful man who genuinely loves his job and community. I'll never forget those people
Hi Carly, big fan of your content. I am also a big fan of June First channel.
@@PookielovesvacuumsI followed June 1st because of Carly! So glad she recommended them.
Y'all are great RUclipsrs.
I lived in a mobile home for 12 years in Iowa. At the time, it was the only community within 50 miles with an on-site tornado shelter for residents. This is a very concerning problem, IMO.I used to set my weather radio for 2 counties west and 2 SW. This enabled me to receive warnimgs before my own location so that I KNEW if bad weather was headed my way. I had time to make sure i was dressed right and could crate my pets in advance. Nothing is perfect but it was the best you can do, really.
That's a good practice to have. Glad to hear you were on top of it!
I live in a camper in a very rural area. Back in December I heard a tornado touch down a little over a mile to my southeast at 2 am. I knew what I was hearing and had my handheld radio with flashlight and NOAA channels on. It was a full two minutes before they issued the warning. There was very bad lightning hitting all around me and the only place I had to take shelter was either inside a large iron drainage pipe across my driveway or the very deep drainage ditch it flows into with flood water in it. I have no car so there`s nothing I can do here. The tornado touched down in a swampy area by the lake nearby and I knew it probably wasn`t coming towards me. If the sound had been to my southwest I would have panicked.
Back in June my weather radio told me at 3 am to take cover...80 mph winds were coming. THAT was scary! I`m in a low area between hills so winds were only about 50-60 mph here but power was out until 10 pm the next night. We were lucky here because some had no power for days. That day was also the FIRST heat emergency here in central Louisiana but thanks to my hurricane preps I ran my tiny air conditioner from a few solar panels and a 12v 300ah LiFeP04 battery with inverter and kept my freezer on with 700w portable power stations and everything else with cheap smaller ones. I`ve had to use this stuff 5 or 6 times since...three times in August with temps between 106-113. If I hear thunder the power fails because of the hurricane damage to our grid in 2020.
It should be fucking illegal for any trailer park or apartment complex managers in Tornado Alley to not have an on-site tornado shelter.
That sounds like a great plan, very well thought out.
@@alexhennigh5242If we mandated such a thing, people might have fewer mobile home parks and apartment complexes to live in.
The part about the occupants of a trailer being thrown around inside of it when it's lifted: Yep, I have some personal experience with that. When I was a kid, we had some tornado warned storms in the area. My parents were arguing about whether we should leave our trailer and try to go to the neighbor's house (it was after midnight). Next thing we knew, we and all of our possessions were airborne. Objects were flying around everywhere, and I distinctly remember my feet leaving the ground at one point. Luckily, it was a weak tornado and our "house" had some sort of anchoring, because eventually, the storm sat us back down shaken but unharmed. I'm still not sure whether it was an actual tornado, or just powerful winds. Our neighbors' trailer was lifted off its foundation and the storm sat it on top of a propane tank in their yard. They managed to quickly evacuate their trailer (and probably their bowels).
Of course, this is one of the problems for mobile home residents in the south. Many Dixie Alley tornadoes occur in the wee hours of the morning, when community shelters aren't open. Our tornadoes also tend to be rain-wrapped, so visibility in these storms can be zero.
Sorry but why the actual f**k are community storm shelters closed at any time? Especially during times where tornadoes are known to most likely spawn?
I live in tennessee and just so happen to live in a mobile home. This is all I (and many others in this area) can afford so I try to make the best of it. Earlier this year, I found myself right in the path of a tornado that was cutting through Woodbury headed right for smithville and making a B line for my home. Living in the middle of nowhere Tennessee where they tell you not to whistle at night has its perks-no neighbors-but also it’s draw backs-no neighbors…Luckily it was weak, my home is double tied and braced with in ground ties, and the storm didn’t track far but it was a 10/10 on the sphincter scale…
The sphincter scale is something I'm absolutely going to use from now on LMAOOOO
But that aside really glad to hear you were ok. I live in Nebraska, also in a mobile home. Only gotten hit with what was likely only an F0, MAYBE F1 so far, thank goodness. But every year around that time, nothing is guaranteed.
June First: "So, what should YOU do if you live in a mobile home?"
Me: "Sell it."
Doesn’t help that they depreciate like a car.
I knew that trailers were bad but, the statistics you posted were frightening! Thank you for the edication.
"Why do tornadoes always go after mobile home parks?" "Because they know a real house will fight back."
Most important...
DO NOT WAIT for the warning!
If weather radar shows a nasty storm heading your way... go ahead and get to a better shelter!
Even storms that the NWS won't issue a tornado warning for, are capable of screwing up a mobile home around its residents.
If you wait on a warning to be issued... you may already be out of time to get to better shelter... especially if the weather's already getting inclement.
In Van Buren County, Michigan, there are NO public tornado shelters. Which means that if the tornado happens at night (not uncommon) most public places are closed. In my community of Mattawan, the police chief has said publicly that he does not want people out driving during a storm. So forget about the fire station (no basement there anyway) or the police station. Ditto the churches. The Office of Emergency Preparedness says if you live in a mobile home to get into the bathtub and pull a mattress over you. That is pretty much the extent of it. YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN. And God help you if you are a senior who lives alone, no family, no vehicle, and mobility issues.
To make matters worse, the mobile home park where I live (no shelter there either but they are putting in a public swimming pool!) is on the north side of I-94. There are no potential shelters to speak of on this side of I-94 which means that people seeking shelter in town must go south and navigate two roundabouts at each end of a very narrow bridge. Now I have friends in town, but they are not always home; and while I am more than welcome to shelter with them in event of an actual warning, coming over during a watch is an entirely different matter. Watches can last several hours, often into the wee hours of the night. When you've got little ones to get ready for school in the morning and you have to go to work yourself, having someone come over and spend half the night "just in case"--well, I think you see the picture here. It's disruptive and if it happens too many times without a warning, now you are starting to get into "cry wolf" territory. The problem is we really don't get all that many tornadoes here in Michigan and most of them are rather weak, so there isn't the sustained awareness here that there is in other states.
Still I try to be as weather aware as possible, but it is rather discouraging to look around and see that there are no good options. After watching this video I am starting to wonder if my wooden shed might be better. No, it's not anchored but it is much closer to the ground.
I am in the exact same situation as you and I empathize greatly. It's incredibly frustrating to be left for dead by your own community.
As someone who is born and raised in north Alabama, and lived in a trailer home growing up... There is NOWHERE near enough shelters available. Many of our shelters here are very low capacity, and considering many of the storms occur over night... people dont go to them. My local area only has a few churches that open, and the closest public tornado shelter is almost 30 minutes away and only has a capacity of 100. After 2011, huge grants were given out to counties/cities to add more public shelters, but my local area decided to give out tax credits to offset the cost of building a personal shelter... which does nothing for those who cannot afford the cost of building a shelter.
Adding insult to injury, most trailers/mobile homes are not on land owned by the home owner, such as in trailer parks and almost universally dont have a garage. So building a personal shelter is not possible.
It's like this in Texas too. You'd think that places with frequent severe weather would have excellent shelters in place, but nope. We just handle the chance we could randomly die any rainy day without a single care.
Seriously, I live in Florida and we don't have tornado shelters. However when we do have a tornado warning I get my dogs into my car and drive in the opposite direction, because that's my only option. I live in a rural area and there isn't anything but a gas station and dollar general nearby. Hurricanes provide a long warnings, but I'm not taking a chance with tornadoes. Florida has more than people think.
The part about zone 1 and the fact their building standards were the lowest in the country really surprised me. I had to go back and rewatch that portion of the video. Your explanation really makes sense though as it seems they have to build something that fits the market and economy there. It shows how much work is still needed in the poorest areas of the US.
I live in an area that gets lower scale EF tornadoes infrequently. But I do live in a mobile home. There's not really anything close by that would work as a suitable shelter in my case. I think people in my area are complacent and unafraid of warnings. As @carlyannawx talks about frequently in her videos, the sociology of warnings in areas like mine is something to be researched and understood better.
100%. It’s an extremely undervalued aspect of the warning process, imo. Carly does a great job bringing that into the conversation.
I remember watching an episode of Storm Stories about a family that was hit my an F3 tornado with the father needing a brace due to his severe injury and image that will stick with me. I really think mobile home communities should invest in tornado shelter or individually underground shelter also being weather aware at all times.
Mossy Grove, TN F3 from the 2002 Veterans Day Weekend tornado outbreak. I remember hearing about that one too. One of the kids was severely traumatized because he was thrown naked through the air by the tornado due to him taking a shower when the tornado was hitting.
I find it frustrating how wind zoning essentially screws over basically everyone living in a landlocked state. You're gonna get less sturdy buildings because you're not in a hurricane prone area. I mean, I absolutely understand that trying to enforce Hurricane precautions on landlocked areas is stupid, but the fact that pretty much every home more than 50 miles inland is subject to the same or very similar basic design wind speeds. Even in my home state of NJ, in the western half of the state(I live pretty much smack dab in the middle) those houses, including mine, aren't reinforced against hurricanes. Combine that with the fact that you see this less than stellar construction, not just in mobile homes but in other buildings as well, in the poorest parts of the country, it almost feels like safety in severe weather is a premium you have to pay that many cannot afford.
Mobile homes are cheap and affordable. We'll built homes are for boomers who have money. I very much appreciate the lack of standards we have in Texas because I can actually afford a mortgage because the land and house together are 50k. Anything more well built are 400k.
The regulations regarding mobile homes aren't changing anytime soon.
We just has a mobile home casualty in Claremont NC from an EF1 :(
Having followed you on Twitter for a while now, I know how important this video was to you. You did an awesome job with this one!
This probably explains why one of the songs from the twister soundtrack is called mobile home.
Nice job dude, scary how often I come across these things when surveying tornado damage.
They are also the worst shelters for floods, I witnessed an entire mobile home park float away during a flash flood, and it wasn't the first time. But I think all mobile home parks in tornado risk areas should have a community tornado shelter which I believe some do have
Really enjoy the channel and your content, especially the damage assessment videos. I've got one I'd like you to do one on sometime, if I may be so bold as to make a suggestion? On November 17th 2013, what seems to be a lesser-known, and less spoken about tornado occurred near Washington Illinois that was rated ef4. I have relatives that were impacted by that storm and having went to help with cleanup afterwards, and although I've been a severe weather fanatic for years and years I've yet to see a tornado, live and in the Flash, nor had I actually been able to see the immediate aftermath, and impact that these formidable acts of nature create, until such a thing fell upon those whom are close to myself and family. The things that I saw and the stories that I heard of survivors and victims, were harrowing and and hair-raising to say the least. This is why I have so much respect for the guys out in the field tracking these dangerous storms in real time, and people like you who are doing the best that they can to get a better understanding of how such severe weather events affect us to try and better conditions in which we dwell so that we can be safer when severe weather comes our way. Thank you and much appreciation for what you do and for sharing and teaching us little people so that we may be better prepared in the future. God bless you my friend and have a good rest of your storm season, and I wish you many more to come.
So, a peak behind the curtain...
I plan out some of my videos months in advance, particularly when an anniversary is coming up (like the Moore 2013 video). Lets just say a particular 10th anniversary is coming up in the month of November and I've already started planning for it months ago ;)
Additionally, thank you for the comment! I'm glad you are learning and enjoying from the work I put out! Cheers!
James Spann says there's one thing you can do in a mobile home, you have to get out of it for a more substantial shelter. Even an EF0 and EF1 tornado can very well kill you in a mobile home, as they're not anchored to the ground. They offer affordable housing, but they are unsafe in tornadoes. Like vehicles, they are death traps. Andover, Kansas F5 tornado on April 26, 1991 - 11 killed in the Golden Spur Trailer Parks. Even straight line winds will destroy it and can seriously injure or kill anyone in them.
Your videos are excellent. You are very knowledgeable and present information smoothly, showing how well prepared you are. Thank you!
You did a great job at making this video
I'd seen plenty of tornado damage online, but seeing the damage in person from the one in nash county has a very different feeling to it.
Luckily everyone survived.
Definitely wouldn't want to live in a mobile home.
You're like the Johnny Harris of tornado/storm documentaries. Just incredible work, keep it up!
My stepmoms dad is the best mechanic in that town. Perrytons neighboring town, balko was hit, I was in it, rip to all the victims.
Nice video! I’m still looking for northeast tornado outbreak analysises.
Great video! I hope it gets popular so more people are aware of the dangers of mobile homes.
Great work and well explained. Sub'd.
well done, great discussion of this issue
2:42 Also includes RVs, and trailer hitch housing. Since those can be moved on a whim, they're slightly better. *_Slightly._*
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I live in an apartment, on the second floor. There's not really much option for shelter, and chancing the nearby houses is not a risk I'm willing to take. As of right now I also don't have money for essential supplies either, because I have a fixed and limited income. My plan is to do what I can moment to moment. That's it.
Ive got a new double wide. It is built to the same codes as site built homes. So far my home has weathered a stirm with 80 mph straight line winds. The winds damaged the skirting but the house is well anchored. It didnt even move. I felt nothing inside the house but heard the plastic skirting rip away.
I plan to get an above ground tornado shelter as soon as i can afford one. Until then i have an interior closet. I ride horses, so when we fet storm warnings i put on my riding helmet and safety vest, good shoes, etc. I have a thick quilt to wrap myself in for extra protection. That will have to do for now.
There has been a tornado death in my state this year. The woman was in a regular stick frame home.
I appreciate you for this very important informative video!
Always fantastic work
Seems trailer parks in tornado prone areas would have a community bunker for twisters.
Some do, but often there are 100+ trailers in a park, and only 1 shelter that is often off to one side of the park. Nowhere near sufficient.
Correct me if i´m wrong, but the communities living in mobile homes should at least invest in concrete slabs and mount their houses on them. Having a house lifted on simple piers and metal supports has the same effect on winds, as it does under the bridges - it amplifies the wind blowing there and as a result, whole houses act like wings.
Im glad I don't live in a tornado prone state. I live in the PNW, and the likelihood of me seeing a tornado is non-existent. On average, 7 tornadoes happen a year. Most of them don't even reach past EF1 status.
Definitely think when you go to a mobile seller they should also have a tornado shelter option available for anyone on a tornado prone location at a discount.
Excellent video, again. This is a great example of avoidable deaths due to failures of governance and regulation.
There is a simple reason why mobile home deaths are steadily increasing. People simply can't afford built-on-site homes or apartments. Taxes, High interest rates and greedy realtor/bankers. Its a lot cheaper to drag a 15 yearold trailer out in the countryside and avoid city taxes.
Great public service/educational video.
Was planning on buying a trailer, then went thru my first tornado last week…no tornado warning or watch…im def being prepared n getting something more sturdy or building a shelter next to it…good video tho cuz those stats are wild 😳
already now its going to be a good video!
I've always lived in a typical brick constructed , slab home.
We have moved to the country and had a manufactured doublewide home built.
A lot of the bad reports concerning mobile type homes is based on older construction .
There are now federally mandated standards for manufactured housing. Thus includes not just the structural, but also the electrical and plumbing, etc. We did a great deal of research and then found a builder in New Mexico who brought the house here to Texas.
Besides the federally mandated plumbing and electricity, we have 2x6 outer walls . Ceiling and floor joists are 2x8. The structure is anchored to the ground , setting on concrete piers. We still have the steel undercarriage. Additionally, we have incredible insulation, including the entire undercarriage. Every countertop in the kitchen, baths, and utilityroom are granite.
I know this is one of the best built homes in my area. The vast majority of non-brick homes are also traditionally set on piers .
In many rural communities , like my own, there are no building codes. That means a contractor will do everything to entertain your eyes while he pockets the most profit. You don't see the way the joists are put in or the plumbing and electrical . You don't see the quality of the underlying materials, and if there aren't building codes, then there isn't going to be a building inspector to verify anything before you move in.
Obviously, you get what you pay for. You can still purchase cheaper mobile homes, that while still required to meet certain federally mandated standards, do not have the structural integrity that I would consider safe. But you can find companies that build rock-solid
homes. You just have to invest in some research before you buy.
We sold a brick constructed home and did pocket some of that when we purchased this house. Now the appraisal value this house has went up a great deal. I was told that appraisers are becoming aware of the improved construction standards in manufactured homes, depending on the manufacturer. So these home will maintain their value as well as protect you .
If you're looking for any house to protect you in an E3 or stronger tornado, then you're probably just as likely to lose your life as I am. Fortunately, my county has a reasonable number of tornadoes, but only two E3 since 1950.
Since they need to be light enough to move, they only weigh about half what most American hoses do per square foot, excluding the foundation which makes the weight closer to 3 or 4 times.
they give plenty of cash out for EVs and solar rebates...they could be as persistent about tornado shelter installs...seeing as they actually save lives...and do some good...i think some rebates exist...but not anywhere near enough...
We saw the Elmore County tornado from our front yard.
I live in a mobile home hit by a EF2 tornado and it survived! Only cosmetic damage was done.
At 5:20 there were 17 deaths, not 14, but still amazing video and PSA for those who are prone to tornadoes
I think it was 9/14 within Rolling Fork itself. The other 3 were outside city limits. But fair enough, I didn't quite elaborate ;)
I am so glad I live in an RV instead of a mobile home. Much safer.
What can be done about it? Fix the housing market!! Gen Z is just having a harder and harder time affording housing or renting, especially over the past 3 or 4 years. Of course they'll be looking for cheaper housing options.
I'm of the belief that all mobile home parks in severe weather areas, should have mandatory community tornado shelters. Full stop.
Ya'll need to start building roll cages into or around those mobile homes.
People who ignore tornado warnings naturally select themselves, in a way.
Everyone should know to leave a trailer during a tornado. If you get caught sleeping then...
Are we not going to talk about the guy pouring concrete in flip flops? 2:52
I wonder if modular homes are any better since they’re anchored on a concrete foundation.
i live in a mobile home somewhere a tornado has struck, whoop.
Mobile Homes.... We call them.. TRAILERS
Mobile homes are not cheaper to maintain when they age.
Contraire my friend, tent city is the worst shelter.
Mobile home parks are tornado magnets change my mind
i will eat all mobile homes and there will be no more danger
Yeassssss
was the child alone??
My guess is a car or underpass
That drone shot of the railroad was illegal.
call the cops then
2:53 Im from europe and for me thisnconstruction is too weak. Here we use more screws and nails, wider wood planks and roof have 2 times more wood planks than in this example. Idk why in usa buildings are so weak.
Maybe it's time we ban mobile homes
Nope, that's elitist, esspecially with our current housing crisis. Scoff at them if you want, but they provide affordable shelter the 99.99% of the time that there isn't a tornado lurking nearby. Homes should be built for everyday needs, not to deal with highly exceptional situations.
@@scarpfish
I know. I was just being facetious
That's just where Europeans laugh at Americans. Just build sensible houses with a concrete foundation and a mezzanine floor and some problems would be solved. And then just the rest times not only from chipboard and a few screws but a reasonably built house of stone and wood. Greetings from the European house from the year 1904. Since Americans dream only of.