DAMAGE ANALYSIS: Rolling Fork, MS EF4 Tornado

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  • Опубликовано: 20 сен 2024
  • In the 3rd Episode of the Damage Analysis series, I explore the damage left behind by the very recent Rolling Fork, MS tornado. On the evening of March 24th, 2023, this fast, violent, wedge tornado moved swiftly through the communities of Rolling Fork and Silver City. It was rated an EF4 on the Enhanced Fujita Scale. We dive into the forces and physics behind the collapsed water tower and the infamous potential vehicle seen lofted in the tornado.
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Комментарии • 177

  • @rollosantucci5077
    @rollosantucci5077 8 месяцев назад +65

    While I think it is very important to analyze what was happening, trust me it was a bit different to be in the middle of it. My wife and I are extremely grateful and thankful to God that we were able to survive this.. and as to your reference to Life Altering event, As of now we are still homeless and hoping to have our home finished and ready to get home soon. As far as help from organizations , we have not seen much from them. I am sure some have but we personally have not seen much.I am very grateful for what we have received just think someone has there pockets lined from good people who have donated money to help. Thank you to everyone who has helped.

  • @dillyboyq
    @dillyboyq Год назад +109

    Thank you for bringing up the severe life altering injuries in relation to those who unfortunately had died.. of course we are all incredibly sad and mourn for those lost.. but we must also remember those injured, because their lives will never be the same either. Thank you for bringing a light to that.

    • @catherinehubbard1167
      @catherinehubbard1167 Год назад +8

      I came to comment on exactly this point too. You’ve done it well already, so I don’t need to. He’s absolutely right about the extreme under-reporting of the severe, life-altering injuries that happened. Some of these people will need support and medical and/or psychological care for extended periods, and they must not be forgotten.

  • @motionless_horizon
    @motionless_horizon 7 месяцев назад +37

    5:11 thank you for saying this. My best friend’s aunt was impaled by a pole in a tornado in December 2023. She was left with a T8 spinal cord injury, which has left her paralyzed from mid-chest down. The pole narrowly missed hitting her Aorta and heart, but punctured a lung. She was in the ICU for two weeks and required 13 surgeries. She’s been left permanently disabled and has severe PTSD from the events. It’s so important to remember that “injuries” could mean anything from a cut to a traumatic injury that leaves someone permanently disabled.

    • @Strob_GD
      @Strob_GD 6 месяцев назад +3

      Holy Shit Dude

    • @leo.909
      @leo.909 4 месяца назад

      My condolences to you that have been effected during March and December of 2023, may everyone in Rolling Fork, and your grandma rest in piece.

    • @MercilessMe
      @MercilessMe 2 месяца назад +1

      I know you don't know me and I hope me responding does not bring up older memories after so long after your original comment.
      That women is incredible and an absolutely hellacious fighter. I hope you, your friends, and that incredibly strong woman and her family are doing as well as they possibly can. Much love, stay strong
      -another MS resident

  • @SparkService
    @SparkService Год назад +87

    5:15 A lot of the injuries we came across during first response were these types of inuries. Broken limbs, head trauma, etc. It was a horrible night for our team to go through. It was a lot harder to deal with because EMS did not arrive until a while later, maybe an hour or so. The only ambulances and fire engines were on the other side of town. Some of us would run 1 or so miles back and forth to get help. Anyways, good job on your analysis of the event.

    • @RT-qd8yl
      @RT-qd8yl Год назад +7

      I was a firefighter for nearly 10 years and tornado response will always be some of the most horrific calls I've been on. I'll never forget it.

    • @drippingdead11
      @drippingdead11 Год назад +7

      ​@RT-qd8yl Listening to the scanner feed the night after Joplin was by far the most horrible and challenging situation a first responder could imagine.
      Even listening from a couple states away was just terrible.
      I'd never heard such drastic detail and pure despair over the air.

    • @tornadicraptor
      @tornadicraptor 11 месяцев назад +5

      I was in Silver City after it passed through there. I heard chasers calling for help. I was told by a trooper that they were only allowing Fire/EMS into the areas. Thank you and your team for helping with search and rescue. Some chasers ignore these people and stay focused on the storm to get footage and viewers.

    • @SparkService
      @SparkService 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@tornadicraptor it's just the right thing to do. Thank you for trying to help out. If you're not there as it happens you'll normally be shut out by the cops. (Safety reasons)

    • @pangkoy1925
      @pangkoy1925 10 месяцев назад

      National Guard can search and rescue it gives you Food and Water

  • @dorothymoore920
    @dorothymoore920 Год назад +22

    Thank you for this .I'm from Rolling Fork Mississippi and I will never forget that night🙏

  • @kevintucker1491
    @kevintucker1491 Год назад +35

    I'm from Wisconsin and we have had no where near the damage they had down south but they have had 13 confirmed here so far and thankfully no ef4 to ef5. As a first responder my heart breaks for everyone involved and thank you for being respectful and tastefully going through your explanations with that mind set.

  • @tornadostories
    @tornadostories Год назад +20

    What an incredible video. First class. You've put so much work and effort in to provide such interesting and educational content. It's super appreciated.
    RIP to those caught up in this event. It was a violent beast and I wish those communities the best with their recovery.

  • @EverydayLJnz
    @EverydayLJnz Год назад +35

    Suggestion: Would you be able to do Jarrell? Just insane they talk about how debris was literally ground into dust so curious how that would be calculated with object on object collisons ect in tornados

    • @junefirst
      @junefirst  Год назад +29

      Jarrell is on my list!

    • @alexlubbers1589
      @alexlubbers1589 6 месяцев назад +8

      Jarrell is almost difficult to analyze due to its slow motion and the fact that it pretty much deleted everything in its path out of existence

  • @marneebeckman4881
    @marneebeckman4881 Год назад +9

    Finally someone who goes in depth into the science of tornadoes enough for me and isn't just another chase video! Thank you!

  • @FrankReynolds182
    @FrankReynolds182 Год назад +15

    This is a great video, especially given your knowledge and passion of the subject matter. If you're able, I'd love to see a damage analysis of the Joplin EF-5. It's been awhile but my family was impacted as we lived in Southwest Missouri at the time and many people, us included, knew people who didn't make it. I feel though, that having passionate individuals bring light to these tragedies not only brings awareness to these events but also helps people in the future.

  • @shmurk9829
    @shmurk9829 4 месяца назад +3

    This is why you are 1 of the best tornado youtube channels, you show respect love and compassion for everyone, you said in 1 videos that made me subscribe "injuries can be overlooked and fatalities be the major focus, but please understand injuries although not death, can terribly alter people's lives forever" your a goat to me as far as covering this topic
    Edit: after commenting. Realized you commented on the injuries vs fatalities again...wow... you are such a good guy looking at that with compassion

  • @tornadicraptor
    @tornadicraptor 11 месяцев назад +5

    I was chasing in Mississippi that night. I made a wrong turn headed to Silver City that made me go more north of the tornado. I saw it to my left and after the turn I saw it to my right. I made it to Silver City after it passed through. Fellow chasers were calling for help in Rolling Fork for search and rescue. State Troopers told me not to head that way because they were only allowing rescue vehicles in the area. I stopped that night and prayed for everyone involved. I am a Former FF/EMT turned into a meteorology student at Mississippi State and storm chaser. When you mentioned the injuries and fatalities, people don't realize what they could come up on seeing as a result of these storms.

  • @roberthess3939
    @roberthess3939 6 месяцев назад +3

    Thank you Max -- you have done an outstanding job with this analysis! I am a Physics and Calc teacher with a big love of weather and storms. The night of the tornado, I was watching a couple of storm chasers who I regularly follow, and what you have shown me here helps put what I saw through their eyes into perspective. With your permission, I am going to have my AP Physics class watch this video to demonstrate a solid application of what we have been recently learning in class to solve the velocity problem. I will also emphasize what we can do to assist these folks still needing help and encouragement months later. Best,

    • @junefirst
      @junefirst  6 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you, Robert! You’re more than welcome to share this with your class. I had a really engaged AP Physics teacher when I was in high school who played a big part in encouraging me to continue down the path of my eventual engineering background :)

  • @AllThingsConsidered333
    @AllThingsConsidered333 4 месяца назад +2

    I appreciate that you begin by acknowledging the loss of life and property.. too often folks focus on the tornado & the damage without recognizing the impact it has on the people.
    It also frustrates me that folks say “fatalities” … to me it seems to dehumanize the event.. these are people, mothers & fathers, daughters & sons, sisters & brothers…
    My heart hurts badly for the people affected by these severe storms.. it has not happened to me nor anyone I am close to, but I empathize with the people affected.. it weighs heavily on me..
    I can only imagine how it must feel to lose everything in an instant.. to have a loved one taken away suddenly & unexpectedly.. and how it must feel in those last seconds before one loses their life in such a violent manner…
    So thank you for keeping the human element in our minds.
    Prayers & love to all who have been affected by tornadoes & other severe weather ❤️

  • @pearrtree
    @pearrtree Год назад +8

    Your videos are amazing! Glad to see the channel growing quick!

  • @jobethk588
    @jobethk588 Год назад +5

    Fascinating. Thanks for your hard work. Your safety points are great. I appreciate your recognition of the victims and reminding us how injuries sustained in such storms are often life-altering.

  • @ashleya1609
    @ashleya1609 9 месяцев назад +3

    Man, you are super smart! Thank you for making it easy for everyone to understand! I just love your content! Keep up the good work! ❤

  • @dorothydromgoole8040
    @dorothydromgoole8040 Год назад +3

    My prayers are with the family and friends of the people who live in Rolling Forks. Love from Marysville, California

  • @EverydayLJnz
    @EverydayLJnz Год назад +4

    These analysis videos you do are so fascinating- thankyou for your efforts. Awful watching it happen live and the footage of the impact..

  • @eschdaddy
    @eschdaddy Год назад +5

    Not long and you’ll be on the survey team! Great analysis.

  • @mikebrown9997
    @mikebrown9997 4 месяца назад +2

    I have never seen an analysis like this. Keep it up my friend. Just subbed and will be looking for more of these.

  • @Overlycomplicatedswede
    @Overlycomplicatedswede 4 месяца назад +2

    I remember watching storm chaser Freddy McKinney chasing this storm and eventually chasing this tornado and getting some of the most horrfying footage of this tornado being covered by darkness only being visible from lightning strikes
    The tornado it self was moving incredibly quickly and it wasn’t visible to the human eye which makes it even more difficult to spot and terrifying
    This tornado reminds me of the Joplin EF5 and how both tornadoes were extremely hard to see and also went from tiny to absolute behemoths in a couple minutes time.
    Im currently In my 2nd year of studies for mechanical engineering and your videos and knowledge you have is a massive inspiration to me! Keep it up
    Great video
    Love from sweden

  • @christophermiller7876
    @christophermiller7876 Год назад +6

    There was pictures of vehicles that was lofted because of damage that was shown. Both ends was smashed in severely. Was wondering if there was any signs of ground scouring? I did also see some serious debarking of trees in some pictures. The trees were debarked from the ground up. Another damage sign I noticed was the rubble piles of debris. I know it has been said that very serious tornadoes cause a bulldozing effect of debris, like it was pushed in a large pile of debris. I would love to know the exact wind speeds of that tornado. You know we have technology to do that, but we need to use it. It’s also ashame that we don’t have enough radars out there. There’s so many dead zones that radars can’t reach to be able to measure the forces of these storms. The government needs to put up the money to be able to build new radar sites in these dead areas. Beautiful job you done on these figures of this storm. You’re very smart and talented keep up the hard work and keep pushing.

  • @AudreyMorehead
    @AudreyMorehead 10 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you! You explained such complex data in a very clear, simple manner. I also appreciate your compassion…especially being a Mississippian!

  • @xxManscapexx
    @xxManscapexx Год назад +5

    All the youtube storm junkies should be watching this channel. Come on algorithm.

  • @ryanduffy4039
    @ryanduffy4039 8 месяцев назад +2

    What an amazing video, thank you for all the hard work you put in . I would definitely say based on all the videos online from strom chaser , the fly car that did several rotations around the tornado at the time when it hit the town , plus some of the damaged done to well built homes , including some tractor trailers being lifted on top of a home , I would rate this tornado a low end EF5 around 205mph winds. Maybe as the years pass they will do an additional upgrade. RIP to all the lives that where lost in the dead of night

  • @HidingFromDaylight
    @HidingFromDaylight Год назад +1

    Excellent video as always. Thank you for sharing your passion with us.

  • @wpankey57
    @wpankey57 2 месяца назад +2

    I don't understand the math but your presentation is fascinating.

  • @shizzle840
    @shizzle840 Год назад +1

    Thank you for the content! Well put together and i definitely enjoy learning more about these beasts! Great work!

  • @AlaskaB83
    @AlaskaB83 Год назад +7

    If it was a vehicle suspended in the tornado, the fact that the headlights are on is pretty ominous. It would assume the car (or truck or whatever) was running which would, in turn, suggest that there was likely a person inside it or recently had been, whether they were ejected or fled on short notice. Obviously we cant 100% know this, but if it were the case, it would almost guarantee this vehicle owner was a fatality, otherwise they would probably have known/reported the last known location of their car (which could have corroborated the video) which could have been compared against the location their vehicle was found. I suppose this would be negated if the vehicle was mangled beyond recognition (plausible for a vehicle that was lofted so high and violently) and thus the owner was never able to learn how far their vehicle was carried. It also may be worth noting that evidence of vehicles being suspended like this have been confirmed before, such as the horrible case of Lynn Davis during the EF3 New Wren tornado of April 27, 2011 who was carried for 90 seconds and 1.7 miles. For those that don't know the New Wren tornado was the predecessor to the Smithville EF5 from the same tornado family, widely regarded as one of the strongest tornadoes of our time. Also, of course, was the Ford Explorer hurled shortly thereafter in Smithville that slammed into the town water tower (dent still visible, I believe) and landed a mile away from where it was picked up

  • @mallowhoney
    @mallowhoney Год назад +2

    I watched this happen live, and even from a fair distance, I had a traumatic response. I literally cannot imagine being from this town and experiencing it first hand. A tornado has hit my town this year but it was EF1 or even 0, only very minor damage and nothing that personally harmed my day to day life. I was watching a livestream and we watched this approach, and when the emergency was called, there was this tension knowing the gravity of what was going on. Really terrifying. I was a nervous, neurotic wreck for two weeks after.

  • @vanni9283
    @vanni9283 Год назад +3

    Outstanding analysis!
    I certainly think an NWS office would love to have your expertise!!!

  • @giarc0
    @giarc0 Год назад +2

    Great stuff man! Love these videos, plus you make it easy for the semi-lay person.

  • @gavinmclean3174
    @gavinmclean3174 10 месяцев назад +3

    Thank you, Carly Anna and you are the only people I have heard emphasize the impact of the injuries, I find that quite refreshing.
    Sub

  • @weatherkid6517
    @weatherkid6517 Год назад +2

    Love your content man!

  • @kevinnelson9588
    @kevinnelson9588 Год назад +2

    I live in North Little Rock. We just had a Ef3 rated 165 mph max wind rating tornado hit the area. Seemed to do ef2 damage in my city, but did ef3 damage in Little Rock and in Jacksonville, ar. It is crazy how much difference the forces are at 170 mph, as in the case of Rolling Fork, which I was less than an hour from driving into while on the return trip from Florida. We had stopped over night in anticipation of the storms in Jackson. There is a clear video of the Little Rock part of the tornado picking up a midsized suv, and throwing it against the wall of a concrete building. The guy recorded it from inside the building. I'm sure the Rolling Fork tornado had much more of a lifting wind force than the Little Rock tornado.

  • @okyoe25
    @okyoe25 Год назад +2

    This is amazing. Love your videos. I cant wait for for you to do Joplin.

  • @CeltonHenderson
    @CeltonHenderson Год назад +3

    Nice job dude.

  • @gdubya1360
    @gdubya1360 Год назад +2

    Was watching Reed Timmers stream. He personally took two injured to the hospital.

  • @rick6083
    @rick6083 Год назад +4

    Still praying for my fellow mississippians we are having so many tornados here lately seems like every week

  • @DagonNaxos
    @DagonNaxos Год назад

    That video of the headlights in the tornado is pretty much nightmare fuel, but it's good to know that the math checks out. I remember seeing that the night of the event live on RUclips and on Twitter. I had to rewind the video several times to make sure I was actually seeing what I thought I was seeing. I hope and pray there wasn't anybody in there. ChrisFL, a stormchaser, got rolled by that tornado basically live on stream and I immediately got that sick feeling in my stomach. Thankfully, he got our of that unscathed minus the car. Excellent analysis again!

  • @rugger1009
    @rugger1009 Год назад +2

    It’s rare for a round tower like that to fall in a tornado. I believe it was Barneveld Wisconsin where they actually found some paper wedged under the edge indicating that it was tipping during the tornado.

  • @hollykiebler4137
    @hollykiebler4137 10 месяцев назад +2

    I have a suggestion - only because I am an idiot lol. As with the analysis of the water tower - the storm shelter door and the f-100 - how great would it be if your computer skills could create a digital recreation of a specific act. I do not understand the math - however - I am a visual person - often for me is actually seeing it. In either event - I am hooked...you are a very smart and you make these vids very informative and educational. WTG and keep up the great work.

  • @arizona7979
    @arizona7979 Год назад +2

    Is it possible you could do a damage analysis on the Smithville tornado? There are a couple key damage points that I think just haven’t been looked deep into enough. Your content is seriously eye-opening and I haven’t ever really looked at tornado damage the same since. The Smithville tornado just hasn’t been studied enough, and I believe at least enough evidence is available that suggests it clearly broke the 220 UB FR12 threshold, considering in an NWS slide presentation they bullet pointed in numerous slides that the homes there were in the “Upper-Bound” threshold. Cheers!

  • @AllThingsConsidered333
    @AllThingsConsidered333 4 месяца назад

    I was watching Ryan Hall’s livestream during this event as well as the livestream the following weekend during the severe outbreak. So much destruction! My heart hurts for you all…

  • @Zorohoe
    @Zorohoe 3 месяца назад +1

    I like how he brought sensory overload into the Frey, I’ve never seen or been inside a tornado but my county is always around them, I can tell when a nado has touched down I know the phases , I can just see it in the sky n it’s scary, somedays I wanna see one but that’s why I watch videos like this to see the shear magnitude of situations , this tornado like others I could mention crippled a economy and community

  • @rawhides
    @rawhides Год назад +3

    Man, I don’t miss statics/dynamics/materials. Anywho, as a Civ E (not structural…. too much responsibility! 😂), you did a decent job. Hopefully some future enginerds can see how much fun it can be to derive a bunch of detailed information from a set of limited known values and circumstantial evidence like pictures.
    I think you’d do well as a structural engineer my guy, I work with a surprisingly high number of mech Es in civ E firms.

  • @aaronrogers7374
    @aaronrogers7374 3 месяца назад

    I was at my girlfriend's house in North East Mississippi when this happened and remember seeing the damage the day after on the news, I couldn't imagine what these families went through. I am now at a flight school that was much closer to the tornado path (still about 50-75 miles from the path) but have have flown over the latter part of the path and seeing the damage irl from an aerial view is heartbreaking. I couldn't even begin to imagine what rolling fork itself looks like.

  • @jacobthayer236
    @jacobthayer236 Год назад +1

    You do an incredible job on these videos. Its only a matter of time before your channel takes off. I hope it comes soon! Thank you for what you do and stay safe.

  • @DSGB2199
    @DSGB2199 7 месяцев назад

    This channel is gold, i love the analysis part, forces at play if you will with tornado

  • @js35701
    @js35701 Месяц назад

    speaking of vehicles being lofted, there is a video of the Elie, Manitoba tornado lofting a 3/4 ton van filled with drywall at least 500 ft in the air.

  • @guymann4016
    @guymann4016 6 месяцев назад

    Great to see math practically used in detail. New sub.

  • @jagger21256
    @jagger21256 Год назад

    Thank you

  • @tracyfrederick5606
    @tracyfrederick5606 4 месяца назад +1

    Excited new subscriber!
    Thank you for mentioning life altering injuries. I've seen interviews with a nurse mentioning degloving injuries from where the skin was scoured off appendages. I live in Alabama and there's a woman who survived 4/27 but had brain damage. She now speaks with a English accent, so strange . That was in Elmore county where a trailer park was hit. People died there too.
    There's interesting ( and horrifying) video of a 1989 tornado in Huntsville Alabama. Please check out the Airport rd tornado. It correlates with the vehicles being lofted and thrown. I'd love your input on it.

  • @carlmay9532
    @carlmay9532 6 месяцев назад +2

    Hey Ethan, I wonder if you can answer a question I have in comparing this tornado to your video done on the Mayfield storm.
    I understand the way the EF scale works in regards to construction quality (at a novice level of course).
    But I notice this tornado (Rolling Fork) rated at 195mph. The “extremely well constructed” house in Bremen Ky you featured in your video rated out at 190mph.
    Rolling Fork was exceedingly violent, I’m not disputing that. However I didn’t see anything in Rolling Fork that resembled the total annihilation done to the house in Bremen. The house so strongly fastened/bolted down to its foundation that the whole thing went up Wizard of Oz style and granulated, scattered about. Let alone chunks of the foundation being pulled up with it and broken downstream.
    I don’t think I missed any “extremely well constructed” homes in Rolling Fork suffering this type of unholy destruction.
    So my question is, what was observed in Rolling Fork that would suggest a higher (albeit only 5mph) wind speed that in Bremen?
    What are your thoughts?

  • @whoever6458
    @whoever6458 Год назад +2

    Condolences to people who lost loved ones, got injured, or lost their belongings.

  • @wrldgaming4684
    @wrldgaming4684 5 месяцев назад +1

    As long as the rating of the tornado or under rating does not effect how much help or aid a town gets in the aftermath I don't think it matters. Ef4-Ef5 are killers no matter what if your not under ground and in the path most of time I hear horrible injuries and fatalities with that strength of wind. I can not even imagine being in a tornado and the ptsd people have afterwards when they see storm clouds or see lightning and hear thunder. It amazes me the strength these people have and my heart goes out to them.

  • @SkywarnMN97
    @SkywarnMN97 Год назад +1

    Your Knowledge is crazy bigger than mine lol

  • @aubsarg0222
    @aubsarg0222 10 часов назад

    At the end of your videos, you should use computer models to recreate the tornado so we can see the damage and how stuff breaks and houses get demolished

  • @MarkDavismarkie
    @MarkDavismarkie 5 месяцев назад

    the truck in the tornado sounds like a wizard of oz moment! Interesting!

  • @olaftheblack2012
    @olaftheblack2012 Год назад +1

    I would love a video of you doing analysis on El Reno.

  • @GalaxxE_Gaming
    @GalaxxE_Gaming Год назад +1

    June you should do a damage analysis for the mayfield tornado

  • @mrgreen8357
    @mrgreen8357 8 месяцев назад

    You are one smart dude when you start doing all these math equations and stuff I have no idea how to do any of it I was never good at any math besides multiplication

  • @billiecampbell6386
    @billiecampbell6386 Год назад +1

    In figuring out the suspending the f-150, how does that compare to the force required to lift the truck from the ground ? Some even f-150 trucks have lift kits and the size of the tires ? How about if it's a long or short bed ?

    • @junefirst
      @junefirst  Год назад +2

      The changes of long/short bed or crew/extended cab, for example, would be pretty minimal, maybe a few mph difference. Some of the larger engines (like a Powerstroke, for example) may make things hard to keep suspended since that’s significantly more mass. A lift kit would definitely make the vehicle much more prone to flipping or being lofted. Air under the vehicle is the main reason why cars/trucks get flipping in tornadoes in the first place.

  • @corypa77
    @corypa77 Год назад +1

    Maybe this was addressed in the video, and I missed it, but another thing to note about the wind speed calculated for the water tower would be the wind speed was calculated for 100+ feet elevation. Since there’s no correlation between surface winds and winds at elevation for tornadoes, there’s really no way to say what the winds were on the ground at this location, even if they were over 200 mph at 150 feet. There are examples where a tornado removes roofs from houses or destroys a second floor, but the landscaping in the front looks untouched. The winds at the top of the water tower could very well be over 200mph but much less than that at the ground level.
    Otherwise, I thought this was a very well-done video and analysis though (it doesn’t make me miss engineering school!). I look forward to seeing more in the future.

  • @jrummyjs
    @jrummyjs Год назад

    just went thru Rolling Fork in February

  • @tryingnot
    @tryingnot 7 месяцев назад

    Okay I enjoy these videos alot and am appreciative. My only complaint is when the math verifies the rating it is held up as proof. I have noticed on several occasions where the math just like in this video shows there seem to be alot of mental gymnastics to prove the rating was right and the math was wrong or suddenly corrosion is a factor when it isn't in another video that seems to show more corrosion.

    • @junefirst
      @junefirst  7 месяцев назад

      That’s fair.
      My goal isn’t to defend the NWS by any means. In fact, criticism is most definitely valid. Every calculation I do should have the caveat that they are idealized mathematical models that’ll provide a ballpark figure. There will always be external factors.

  • @stormwx
    @stormwx Год назад +1

    3:24 - After the survey was finish the tornado was given a final rating of EF4 - with 190mph similar the same windspeed than the Mayfield tornado!

    • @RhineYT
      @RhineYT Год назад +1

      Upgraded to 195

    • @stormwx
      @stormwx Год назад

      Yeah it was just upradged 1 month ago.@@RhineYT

  • @curtissmith8568
    @curtissmith8568 Год назад +1

    They just upgraded this tornado.

  • @SeatLeonMK2
    @SeatLeonMK2 5 месяцев назад

    it's the momentum, Ethan, have you seen the video of the katie - wynnewood tornado EF4 which also picked a F-150 (proven) ?

  • @FerganaQashqat
    @FerganaQashqat Год назад +1

    One comment: The peak wind speeds were upgraded to 195 mph as of now. Could you maybe comment on that? Thanks.

    • @itsbean6374
      @itsbean6374 11 месяцев назад

      yah he changed the thumbnail

    • @ZackSansing
      @ZackSansing 4 месяца назад

      It is ef5 not 4

  • @michaelstrahan2.0
    @michaelstrahan2.0 Год назад +1

    Skip to 8:50 to begin the analysis breakdown.

  • @AF99499
    @AF99499 Год назад

    Curious about the two relatively new DIs NE of Rolling Fork. Both were labeled as "ground scarring" EF4 DIs (no estimated wind speed attached) with one of them said to be "with debris scattered across field" and the other as "slash pattern." It also looks like they removed the estimated wind speed for the water tower DI as well. Really goes to show that preliminary =/= set in stone and that even 2 weeks after the tornado hit, that they're still going back and reevaluating damage.

    • @13_cmi
      @13_cmi Год назад

      I don’t understand the ground scarring. There’s no image attached to it and very little information. No proper description of the damage at all.

  • @mattkowal90
    @mattkowal90 Год назад

    The tornado was upgraded from a low-end EF4 with winds of 170 MPH, to a high-end EF4 with winds of 190 MPH. A flower shop built within a brick building was completely leveled, and partially swept away with wind-rowed debris not far from the foundation. Other nearby homes suffered the same degree because they were well-built, and anchor bolted to their foundations on the NE side of Rolling Fork.

    • @greensunfish
      @greensunfish Год назад

      actually 195mph winds now

    • @vincentoconnor5640
      @vincentoconnor5640 Год назад +2

      It almost seems like the NWS really doesn't want to say a tornado has 200mph winds. Like 195? Really? What damage added 5mph?

    • @calebkent6706
      @calebkent6706 Год назад

      @@greensunfishnever know they may upgrade it to ef5 if more damage is found

    • @blacktoblack7292
      @blacktoblack7292 Год назад

      @@calebkent6706 nope everything is over.

    • @mattkowal90
      @mattkowal90 11 месяцев назад

      @@calebkent6706 They usually upgrade/downgrade no more than 90 days after the tornado has occurred. In the first week of June 2013, the El Reno tornado was upgraded from high-end EF3/160 mph to an EF5 with winds well over 200 mph. Three months later, they reversed the rating back to EF3 in the first week of September 2013. Essentially, they have 3 months to make a decision. Do I think this tornado was at EF5 intensity at any point in its life, yes it was, but we will never have any proof. Recently, they added a few factors to determine the final rating of tornadoes with the EF-scale. Radar measurements and ground scouring will factor in, along with residences, and they put hardwood and softwood trees together.

  • @goldhunter9641
    @goldhunter9641 Год назад

    Most definitely try to do a report on the recent matador tornado that was only rated a EF3, those vehicles were unidentifiable in that storm and looked like round balls of metal and the majority of those vehicles were farm use trucks and some semi trucks and trailers also that one of the Peterbilt trucks literally had the engine ripped out of the frame and thrown way down the road.. professional storm chasers Val and Amy Castor from Oklahoma City news 9 followed that storm and tornado with good video of it,, as it entered the town limits of Matador Texas

  • @Jefestephens
    @Jefestephens Год назад

    Now make us one for the Little Rock, Wynn tornadoes!!! Pleaseee

  • @GeneralLee2000
    @GeneralLee2000 5 месяцев назад +2

    This was a wonderful video, thank you very much! I'm assuming you've seen but they updated the speed to 195 MPH since you published the video. Personally I still think that's a bit of an underestimation with how severe the damage is, but at least it's nowhere near as bad as the El Reno EF3 😂. Once again cheers, and keep up the good work!

    • @jacob45415
      @jacob45415 5 месяцев назад

      What do u think the max winds speeds were ?

    • @LEONKennedyGames
      @LEONKennedyGames 5 месяцев назад

      @@jacob45415 the radar showed 240 mph

    • @jacob45415
      @jacob45415 5 месяцев назад

      @@LEONKennedyGames if it was 240 then I think there would have been pavement taken off and maybe ground scouring

    • @GeneralLee2000
      @GeneralLee2000 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@jacob45415 Personally I would say 200+, EF-5 level. The damage is extreme, with brick buildings being levelled and both partial and full tree debarking being exhibited. And yes, ground scouring was also exhibited by the tornado.

    • @boinqity4621
      @boinqity4621 14 дней назад

      ⁠​⁠@@GeneralLee2000a single brick building with an overhang and multiple massive windows facing into the wind were leveled, the buildings literally touching that one did not sustain even close to that damage. it doesnt matter if you want it to be an ef5 it just wasnt. wind speeds even 100 feet in the air can be very different than the ground so the measurements dont mean much either, and even if they did mean anything the ef scale is a DAMAGE scale. we dont need to incorporate measured wind speed into it because we already have a wind speed scale, its called miles per hour

  • @hunterlowe6173
    @hunterlowe6173 Год назад

    The winds speeds are now under 190mph

  • @davegeorge7094
    @davegeorge7094 10 месяцев назад

    Was the light seen a building emergency egress battery led floodlight, from a school building etc...

  • @graydoncarruth5044
    @graydoncarruth5044 Год назад +3

    I’m from Mississippi (not Rolling Fork but I’m familiar with the area), and I can say with confidence that this storm was likely stronger than EF-4. I say that because that part of the state, unfortunately, struggles with poverty and it’s highly likely the tornado simply did not hit anything built to modern construction standards. Not being a surveyor on the ground I can’t say for certain of course. And, as you said, that’s the system we have to work with now.

  • @jmstudios457
    @jmstudios457 Год назад

    Where do you obtain these lift and drag coefficients? it's really hard to find them except for basic shapes and some generalized vehicle shapes, and for lift coefficients you really got nothing

    • @prndownload
      @prndownload 11 месяцев назад

      I am not a math person at all but I highly doubt any of the vehicle calculations are correct. From what I can gather it is being implied that sustained updraft winds at height well outside the funnel itself are 174mph to keep the vehicle aloft. That is almost as strong as the strongest recorded sideways gusts at ground level inside the strongest part of the funnel. Doesn't make any sense to me.

  • @HyperEthereal
    @HyperEthereal Год назад

    i remember being in a disc server and everyone going insane

  • @drippingdead11
    @drippingdead11 Год назад

    This site with the "damage Indicators"... Is this available to the public? I'm always looking for more details in tornado paths but I can never find anything useful beyond a broad map.

    • @junefirst
      @junefirst  Год назад +1

      Yes, it’s available to the public! Link: apps.dat.noaa.gov/stormdamage/damageviewer/

    • @drippingdead11
      @drippingdead11 Год назад

      @@junefirst oh YES!! Thanks. I've asked this on other videos to no avail.
      I don't know why I had such difficulty finding this.💘

    • @drippingdead11
      @drippingdead11 Год назад

      @@junefirst Took a long time to figure some of it out.
      Do you know how far back the data goes? Or is there another one for ones farther in the past? Or is that all NCDC?

  • @dmeemd7787
    @dmeemd7787 11 месяцев назад

    I always tell people.. if they would actually talk about the injuries and the types of injuries, instead of just reporting numbers or a”No one was killed, so everything is fine” type of deal.. maybe we would all be more prepared with more respect (instead of fear, and/or ignorance) for things..

  • @tomastos9
    @tomastos9 Год назад

    imagine if we get an ef5 on may 20th this year being the exact 10 year anniversary of the last ef5 tornado

    • @tomastos9
      @tomastos9 Год назад

      Aged poorly

    • @ZackSansing
      @ZackSansing 4 месяца назад

      Aged poorly in 2021 the mayfield one had homes swept away like Greensburg did in 2007.

  • @bubbawubba2307
    @bubbawubba2307 6 месяцев назад

    Whats the other light to the right

  • @dylanchalmers3011
    @dylanchalmers3011 Год назад

    @June First is it still not official as to whether it was an EF-4 or an EF-5?

    • @contingenceBoston
      @contingenceBoston Год назад

      Official rating was EF4; one could argue that it was upper-end EF4 given the consistency of EF4-level damage along the path (according to the NOAA report). Significant damage when compared to, say, the Iowa wedge that kicked off the March 31st outbreak, which earned the same rating due to a single point of damage along the path.

    • @dylanchalmers3011
      @dylanchalmers3011 Год назад +1

      @@contingenceBoston the tuscaloosa tornado was a high end EF4. we have yet to see a damage analysis video on that one aswell as 2013 moore

    • @junefirst
      @junefirst  Год назад +6

      @@dylanchalmers3011 Both are on my list to cover in the future. These videos take time to make and there are so many events to look at, but they are definitely on my list!

    • @hotdog31227
      @hotdog31227 Год назад

      Its (I believe) Still preliminary HIGH-END EF4.

  • @EliRicke-xl9mw
    @EliRicke-xl9mw 3 месяца назад +6

    195 mph has got to be a joke. This thing had to have been well into the EF5 range.

    • @HootGamingQUIT
      @HootGamingQUIT 2 месяца назад

      Yes, in my opinion it was a low end EF5

  • @dingle37
    @dingle37 Год назад

    Can you do joplin? I can never see the nws damage survey on the dat

    • @junefirst
      @junefirst  Год назад

      Joplin is on the list to be covered in the future.

    • @dingle37
      @dingle37 Год назад +1

      Cool! Good luck researching it, I’ve had trouble finding anything haha

    • @Stormworks837
      @Stormworks837 Год назад

      ​@@junefirst I ❤ your vids

  • @LaYarddog
    @LaYarddog Год назад

    Where do you find the interactive path maps?

    • @junefirst
      @junefirst  Год назад +3

      apps.dat.noaa.gov/stormdamage/damageviewer/

  • @MrTankx
    @MrTankx 9 месяцев назад

    What website is this to see this tornado damge

  • @thebaronaa7739
    @thebaronaa7739 Год назад

    What website or app do you use?

  • @ripjuice8670
    @ripjuice8670 Год назад

    officially 190 MPH but i think it was over 200 MPH but im not a professional thats just my opinion

  • @forrest1979
    @forrest1979 Год назад

    Interesting content. Would be more enjoyable without the music in the background.

  • @timjolly777
    @timjolly777 5 месяцев назад

    How much more time could you have spent talking about that water tower

  • @ayedanwx
    @ayedanwx Год назад

    i tracked this and it was hard to watch

  • @JacobThatGuy1
    @JacobThatGuy1 5 месяцев назад +4

    This Definitely should have been EF5.

    • @ZackSansing
      @ZackSansing 4 месяца назад +2

      It is ef5. It was as destructive as Greensburg Kansas tornado back 17 years and 4 days ago that happened at night. It also had ef5 damage similar to the Greensburg tornado.

  • @bigrooster6893
    @bigrooster6893 3 месяца назад +5

    It’s humanly impossible to tell the difference between 195 MPH damage and 200 MPH damage. The EF scale sucks.

    • @HootGamingQUIT
      @HootGamingQUIT 2 месяца назад +3

      That’s what I’m saying, they could probably give an accurate range like 190-205 but it’s impossible to give a single number that would be perfectly exact

  • @davegeorge7094
    @davegeorge7094 10 месяцев назад

    Car headlights are directional, don't fit.

  • @prndownload
    @prndownload 11 месяцев назад

    I'm certainly not math smart but there is no way an F150 is floating around and orbiting the outer circulation of an EF4 or EF5 tornado. Sure they could get snatched and tossed by the strongest part of the vortex on the ground as demonstrated by the Elie F5 drill bit but to float around or orbit like that is impossible. Something in your calculations has to be laughably way off. Are you implying that outside the vortex of the tornado at height there are sustained updraft winds of 174mph to keep it aloft?

    • @itsbean6374
      @itsbean6374 11 месяцев назад

      yah, like most violent tornados this one is likely underrated by a mile in strength

    • @collinjamesguitar
      @collinjamesguitar 10 месяцев назад

      Uh yeah man, not laughable. There’s video on RUclips of a Semi-Trailer being lifted hundreds of feet into the air in a tornado in OK. When you’re talking about EF5 level winds, strange phenomena always happens. Not to mention, the winds were probably MUCH higher than 195-200 at points in the tornado.

    • @prndownload
      @prndownload 10 месяцев назад

      @@collinjamesguitar That is a very simplistic understanding. The semi-trailers being lofted are often empty and have a huge amount of surface area. They act like a kite. That's why trucks get flipped over on the roads by strong winds where cars do not.
      There is no strange phenomena there is only physics and there is zero chance the lights floating around outside the circulation of what is a max EF4 tornado is possible. It could be an F6 and it still wouldn't do that or look like that.

    • @prndownload
      @prndownload 10 месяцев назад

      @@itsbean6374 It doesn't matter what rating they are given. None are capable of orbiting cars outside the circulation like they are empty plastic bags.