[Origin of European 4/6] Y-DNA Haplogroup I and Ancient European

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  • Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
  • Y-DNA Haplogroup I, along with R, is currently the most frequently found Y-DNA haplogroup in Europe. In this episode, we will look at the distribution of I and the migration route of ancient I.
    #Y-DNA #Haplogroup I #Origin_of_European #Y-Chromosome
    00:20 Migration
    03:27 Subclades of I
    04:15 Gravettain culture and HG-I
    06:20 LGM Vegetation
    07:52 Subclades of I2
    13:52 Subclades of I1

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  • @geonomad1
    @geonomad1  2 года назад +9

    00:20 Migration
    03:27 Subclades of I
    04:15 Gravettain culture and HG-I
    06:20 LGM Vegetation
    07:52 Subclades of I2
    13:52 Subclades of I1

  • @unknownarchon8860
    @unknownarchon8860 2 года назад +58

    So Balkan in general is home to densest pre Indo-European "Old Europe" I2. It's like a time machine.

    • @sofiakonermann2308
      @sofiakonermann2308 Год назад

      Bat Not Georgia

    • @emmanuelgoldspleen2905
      @emmanuelgoldspleen2905 Год назад +3

      Yeah, and north central Sweden has loads of I1.
      I am a Scottish I2a1a (I-L233 in particular), but my haplogroup was in Germany until 423 CE.

    • @b.h.6250
      @b.h.6250 Год назад +10

      Not really. The subclades found in the Balkans were found to have formed quite late and to have migrated there with the Slavic invasion around 1000 years ago.

    • @unknownarchon8860
      @unknownarchon8860 Год назад +2

      @@b.h.6250 Philistine inscription 4.5 Ashkelon (Israel)

    • @tribal4244
      @tribal4244 Год назад +23

      @@b.h.6250 Have you ever thought that other sciences like history and not Germanic war propaganda should be included in this discipline? I2 is present in Lepenski Vir near Belgrade approximately 10,000 years ago. What has happened since then? Among other things, 200 years of war with the Roman Republic (then a large number of people could escape to Ukraine) after which Rome became an empire and the Balkans the main place for recruiting soldiers and sending them all over Europe. For example, 1/4 of the male population survived the First World War in Serbia and Montenegro, so it is normal for there to be less I2 diversity than in Ukraine.

  • @Matstarx25
    @Matstarx25 Год назад +22

    It's a mistake in the video, I1 did not explode in Hungary. It exploded somewhere in southern Sweden during the Nordic Bronze age 2500BCE onwards.
    It had very likely been pushed out of northern europe and Denmark, when the R1's arrived, and narrowly escaped the male replacement that I2 suffered all across Europe.

    • @rnedlo9909
      @rnedlo9909 Год назад +4

      It is estimated that when the Indo-Eruopean invasion occurred in Southern Sweden, the I1 males, or even I1 male, retreated into the mountains of Central Sweden and survived there until they grew in numbers enough to push back south, becoming the dominant haplogroup in S Sweden and from there spread to Denmark/S Norway. The Vikings took it from there to many places.

    • @Matstarx25
      @Matstarx25 Год назад +1

      @@rnedlo9909 It's guess work, central or southern Sweden, take your pick. We will probably never know and it probably doesn't make any difference. The case for it being southern sweden looks more likely though. Many of ancient samples dating from right around it's explosion are found in Skåne. Believe it or not the currently known earliest non-swedish ancient I1 sample, was found in Hungary, dating to 650BCE, next one is French. Combine that with material evidence from Denmark, it's pretty safe to say it bursted out of Sweden into Denmark pretty soon after it gained traction there.

    • @mylawyer5972
      @mylawyer5972 Год назад

      I-Y1739 lining in HU

    • @mylawyer5972
      @mylawyer5972 Год назад

      @@rnedlo9909 do you have any source on this, please?

    • @nikemozack7269
      @nikemozack7269 Год назад +3

      I2a was in Scandinavia before I1

  • @TacticalSquirrel
    @TacticalSquirrel Год назад +15

    Interesting video. I checked it out because my Y-DNA is a subclade of I1, I-Y6228, an East Germanic haplogroup usually associated with the Goth and Rugii tribes. My father's family was from West Prussia and Pommern before moving to the USA in the 1870s.

    • @JohnJhones
      @JohnJhones Год назад +2

      The I haplogroup and the J haplogroup have common origin in the Middle east a long time ago.

    • @serkankinden5150
      @serkankinden5150 Год назад +1

      West prussia was germanic region, right? I appreciate you as first civilisations of europe much before R1 has reached. I1, I2 people should be gothic people of ancient europe. Higher civilisation...
      Also please stop those indoeuropean theorists linking R1 and indoeuropeans. I am turkish and most of turkic people have R1 origin in common which had mixed with other ethnicities because our ancestors had to migrate to different regions to survive in ice age.

    • @goldliongoldlion5336
      @goldliongoldlion5336 11 месяцев назад

      Goths are not Germanic, they are Thracian tribe from the territory of today’s Bulgaria and Danube river delta.

    • @veronicalogotheti1162
      @veronicalogotheti1162 9 месяцев назад

      That is not indoeuropean

    • @ЗоранХулк
      @ЗоранХулк 8 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@serkankinden5150isnt turkic J2?

  • @janeausten6584
    @janeausten6584 Год назад +6

    From the data collected in the chapter Origin of Indo-Europeans, we see that men with haplogroup I on the Y chromosome and their women with haplogroup U on mtdDNA, whose descendants are a significant part of Slovenians, were the original inhabitants of Europe and most of the pre-Neolithic cultures belong to them. Men with haplogroup G2a and R1a joined them in Europe 9 to 8 thousand years ago and spread across southern, central, western and part of northern Europe 7.5 to 6 thousand years ago, bringing agriculture with them. They also brought their women with them. In many places, the original inhabitants retreated before them to more remote places and in many places did not mix with them for a while. About 4.5 to 3.5 thousand years ago, people with haplogroup R1b on the Y chromosome invaded them and almost exterminated them, especially in Western and Northern Europe. According to currently known data, our ancestors were also severely affected at that time, and later around 2.5 and 1.2 to two thousand years ago.
    The ancestors of the current Slovenes therefore lived in the current territories (and in many other places in Europe, on most of its territory). It is suggested that the original proto-Indo-Europeans, namely proto-Slovenes, were men with haplogroup I (I1, I2) on the Y chromosome and their women, who lived in Europe and the Middle East tens of thousands of years earlier, 46 thousand years ago years and more.
    Data on the tsunami caused by a meteorite falling into the Pacific Ocean about 68,000 years ago even indicate that at that time people survived only in some places in Africa, Europe and possibly in India (Jurkovec 2015) so that early settlements (earlier than 250,000 years) of at least the warmer part of Europe, and survival in it around 68,000 years ago is becoming more and more likely. Archaeologists' data that the Kisapostag culture, which corresponds to the corded pottery culture, appeared in our country around 4,100 years ago indicate the possibility that its bearers were men with haplogroup R1a, at that time fleeing from invaders, men with haplogroup R1b, from the area of present-day Germany. Future research should verify this, as well as the possibility that this was the partial settlement of the ancestors of the Slovenes from the north, which linguists place around 550 AD. And, could this possibly be the immigration of the ancestors of the Slovenes, which Šavli (1985) assumed from the Lusatian culture about 3,200 years ago.
    What is now attributed to the Celts (e.g. details in folklore, music, etc.) is actually a remnant of the proto-Slovenian continuum from Mesopotamia to Scandinavia and Scotland from more than 4,000 years ago, which was shrunk and destroyed by conquerors with the male haplogroup R1b for thousands of years. Linguistic, geographical, ethnological and mythological details between Slovenes and peoples elsewhere in the Alps, in Scandinavia and in Britain (Tuma 1923 1925, 1926; Bizjak 2002, 2015; Rant 2007, 2008, 2014a,b; Rant 2006, 2011, 20012, 2014 , 2015) namely, according to the data provided by DNA genealogy in recent years, they originate not from Roman or Celtic times, but at least from 4 to 6 thousand years ago or earlier, when there was a proto-Slovenian continuum across Europe on this side of the Carpathians, if not from Mesopotamia but at least from the Aegean Sea to Scotland and Scandinavia. The preservation of these details shows that in these now
    in non-Slavic regions, the proto-Slovene population, especially its female part, was not completely exterminated about 4,000 years ago and that, although alienated, it passed its tradition on to its descendants.
    The results of haplogroup analyzes on the Y chromosome, the results of haplogroup analyzes on mt DNA, Slovenian folk tradition, linguistic, topographical, ethnological and mythological details between Slovenians and peoples elsewhere in the Alps, Scandinavia and Britain show that Slovenians are autochthonous in their territories.
    Taking into account all these data, we can say that the Scandinavian hypothesis about the origin of the Slovenes (Jeza 1976) missed the time and direction of the actual events. The same applies to the Zakarpattia theory, which is still taught here and elsewhere. The early medieval arrival of our ancestors from behind the Carpathians is only a scholarly assumption and a constantly repeated explanation, for which there is still no source information available.
    DNA genealogy results also point to other possibilities.
    Then there is the question of the origin of the immigrants to Slovenia, i.e. the ancestors of the current Slovenians.
    Even in this case, DNA genealogy can help us find part of the answers based on the haplogroups on the Y chromosome. We do not yet know that any of the current Slovenes have haplogroup N. So, we do not yet know about the Slovenes whose ancestors came from behind the Carpathians , if there is any. For the current Slovenes, who have haplogroup R1b, it is clear that their ancestors were not originally Slovenes but proto-Turkish speaking people. Their ancestors most likely came from Western Europe and as soldiers, officials, or even as foreign farmers settled here. Also, Slovenes were not originally the ancestors of the current Slovenes, who have haplogroups J, E and T. Their ancestors most likely came here from the Apennine peninsula, either directly or indirectly from what is now Germany. For the immigrants who have haplogroup I, R1a, and who immigrated from the now German-speaking regions, we can say with certainty that their original ancestors were proto-Slovenes, that their intermediate descendants were Germanized and that they (possibly ) re-employed. As we can see, it is necessary to say very precisely which time period we are talking about and not to draw premature and inappropriate conclusions. One could conclude that the politics of European dynasties in the 19th century had an excessive influence on the expression of the then nascent science of linguistics. One of the many consonants, the text for 100, after the Avestan "satem", has been declared by many to be the basis of the division of the "Indo-Germanic" languages into two parts. Another doctrine of the 19th century was that the Slovenes came to Central Europe not long ago. However, about the arrival of the ancestors of Slovenes (and Macedonians) in the 6th or 7th century. no source from the time speaks. This myth of migration was created between the 15th and 19th centuries. after Christ and has no source support. However, there are sources that write about the arrival of the ancestors of all our neighbors to the original Slovenian territories. Likewise for most Macedonian neighbors. The sources of the time write that the ancestors of the Slovenes were here and that they were also called Veneti. There are data that show that part of the ancestors of the current Slovenes came from the southeast, where they were the original inhabitants. Genetic data show that we Slovenians are a mixture of three genetic sources, both male and female, and that our original ancestors were here at least 40,000 years ago, if not much earlier. This shows that the ancestors of Slovenes lived in Central Europe for thousands of years. There is more and more data showing that older forms of Indo-European languages are more similar to Slovenian than younger forms. The Kentumian Indo-European languages developed from the Satemic languages and not the other way around. These changes did not take place as their internal development but as mutual influences with other language groups. This was followed by the influence of the dominance of the thus created Kentum groups over some Satem groups. From this follows a new division of Indo-European languages into "central", Satemic and "peripheral", Kentum. It appears that agriculture was developed by proto-Slovenian hunters, gatherers, fishermen and other pre-agricultural factors. This proto-Slovenian phenomenon is manifested not only in the present Slavic territories, but also in Asia Minor, in the Levant. The Proto-Slovenians once had a strong linguistic influence in Europe from the British Isles to Anatolia, from the Baltic to the Apennine Peninsula and in Western Europe, the Proto-Slovenian dominance was later replaced by "Celtic", Greek, Roman and Germanic.

    • @janeausten6584
      @janeausten6584 Год назад

      @Absu-l.Ti-mati--SIN-gu If we look at the tables (Genetic data inherited via the Y chromosome and Share of individual haplogroups on the Y chromosome), we see that Slovenians do not have the N haplogroup on the Y chromosome, which is typical of the Finno-Ugric peoples. Our neighbors, the Croats and the Hungarians, have some, the Serbs have more, and in Zakarpattia (Poland, Ukraine, Belarus) there is much more. This is consistent with the data that part of the ancestors of the present Croats and Serbs arrived around 630 AD. from Zakarpattia, part of the ancestors of the present Hungarians, and later from beyond the northern Urals.
      Slovenians also do not have haplogroup Q, which is characteristic of North-East Asian peoples, while Croats, Serbs, Hungarians have it and there is some of it in Zakarpattia as well.
      This means that the ancestors of the Slovenes did not come from Transcarpathia in the 6th century. AD, but that they lived here earlier. Upon their arrival, Croats, Serbs, Hungarians and others occupied the previously Slovenian territories and enslaved Slovenes and claimed them as part of themselves.

    • @veronicalogotheti1162
      @veronicalogotheti1162 Год назад

      Dreams
      The first inhabitants of Europe are r1b
      Then came the r1b
      You are a mixture with Asia

    • @andreamuller9009
      @andreamuller9009 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@janeausten6584 Mongols, also have the haplogroup Q... what is in the European population is probably an inheritance from the Golden Horde.... it's not surprising that it appears among the Hungarians... anyone who knows a little history can guess Why .
      The Slovenians are descendants of the corded pottery culture (i.e. the first farming culture in Europe) who had neither much interaction with the Jamnaja nor before that with the original European hunters and gatherers (here at least not much with the men of these people, on the female side ALL Europeans get something... the ones with the most genes from these first settlers of Europe are the Finns, probably through the Sami peoples)
      And by the way, the very first wave of immigration to Europe was not successful...so there was no human who survived the environment in Europe before 39,000 years ago...we don't know exactly what happened back then, but all homosapian immigrants to Europe died out ( By the way, whatever happened there also had a huge impact on the Neanderthals), it was only 39,000 years ago that people were able to successfully settle in Europe... and therefore no one before that could have left their genes behind.
      My source is the book, "The Journey of Our Genes" by Johannes Krause...head of the Max Plank Institute for Human Genetics in Jena

  • @Mina-mb4bh
    @Mina-mb4bh 2 года назад +35

    I2 from Montenegro here. Over 95% of south Slavs(Serbs, Croats, Montenegrins, Bosniaks) who have I2 haplogroup originate from one man who lived in 3rd century AD in modern-day western Ukraine(I2 PH908). Also all Slavs with I2 originate from one man who lived in 3rd century BC(I2-Y3120). Highest density of Slavic I2 is on Balkan(around 35%) but also western Ukraine and southern Belarus have around 20% of this haplogroup( historical Slavic homeland-Polesia). I2 participated in ethnogenesis of Slavs together with R1a.
    It is not yet clear how that exactly happened but most likely I2 came with Bastarnae tribe(Germanic) in western Ukraine in 3rd century BC.

    • @tribal4244
      @tribal4244 Год назад

      Nice germanoid propaganda, unfortunately nothing about I2 or I1 is germanoid, but the old European I1 was forcely mixed with the Asian immigrant R1B in the creation of Germanic. R1b can also be called a genocidal haplogroup because after the genocide against the old Europeans, they continued with that behavior on all continents. Unfortunately for you, even in the Lepenski Vir I2 skeletons were analyzed, so much for the nonsense about "arriving from Ukraine, from one man and he was a German by birth"

    • @Mina-mb4bh
      @Mina-mb4bh Год назад

      @@tribal4244 brate, ljudi sa haplogrupom I su dosli u Evropu prije najmanje 30 000 godina tako da bukvalno po cijeloj Evropi mos nas njihove skelete. Tacno je da nasi preci zivjeli i na Balkanu ali daleko daleko u praistoriji, mnogo prije Tribala, Ilira i drugih naroda koje ti i mnogi drugi svojatate iz nekog meni narazumljivog razloga kao svoje. Svidjalo se to tebi ili ne nasa I2a je dosla iz zapadne Ukrajine kao SLOVENI, a prije toga smo bili najvjerovatnije pripadnici germanskog plemena Bastarna koje je u 5 vijeku pne doslo iz juzne Švedske na prostor oko Karpata gdje se jedan dio ovog plemena spojio sa R1a ljudima i tako su nastali Sloveni!

    • @seaman5705
      @seaman5705 Год назад +6

      Your neighbors , the Serbs, will be very unhappy with this statement . They think they are in the same location since Sapiens appeared .

    • @suntuieu
      @suntuieu Год назад

      @@seaman5705 that is because there are no proof of other nations till 20 century...sorry

    • @seaman5705
      @seaman5705 Год назад +5

      @@suntuieu What you mean ? There where no Illyrians, Thracians , Romans , Greeks , only Serbs ? LOL . What about I2 comming from Ukraine THIS millenium ? So, genetically, you are not the same people .Did you just read the post above ? Do you have any proof that Illyrians taked Serbian language ? Or Thracians ? I don't think so .

  • @AdoptedCats
    @AdoptedCats 2 года назад +13

    My Paternal lineage is: I-P215 (I2) I-M223, my father side, his Mitochondria DNA is N9b both my father side, I-P215 & N9b can be found both in Ashkenazi DNA. I might be a descendants of Khazars. (Turkic tribes) but I'm pure Japanese.
    Thank you for this video.

    • @geonomad1
      @geonomad1  2 года назад +14

      You are pure Japanese, with DNA of European origin. Very unusual.

    • @Miki-fl9ez
      @Miki-fl9ez 2 года назад +3

      You're 100% Japanese by DNA tests???
      Because you well may be the descendant of a sailor of Comodore Perry expedition.
      Or a Christian missionare.

    • @AdoptedCats
      @AdoptedCats 2 года назад +6

      @@Miki-fl9ez I don't think so. My DNA heritage goes back way beyond what's you said. I even do not look American nor Western at it all.
      (the descendant of a sailor of Comodore Perry expedition.
      Or a Christian missionare.) >>> these what you said, this is less than 300 years old. Those who mixed with them can able to trace their lineage or family tree, even they can tell they are mixed race.
      My Paternal lineage possibly brought through Khazars by Siberian Straight into Far East,
      remember, Khazars were not just one Turkic Empires but can be trace their origins into Xiongnu The Xiongnu (Chinese: 匈奴; pinyin: Xiōngnú, [ɕjʊ́ŋ.nǔ]) were a tribal confederation of nomadic peoples who, according to ancient Chinese sources, inhabited the eastern Eurasian Steppe from the 3rd century BC to the late 1st century AD.
      The Xiongnu's origin is in the Ordos Desert, located in the northern parts of present-day China. As for the language of the Xiongnu, scholars are divided. Some believe that the Xiongnu spoke a Turkic language, while others believe their language was of Mongolic origin.
      My Paternal DNA is similar to these Turkic Mongols.
      Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, and perhaps, Sakha Republic in Russia.
      Not too many Japanese has same DNA as mine. I2 or I-P215.
      I Haplogroup is also very small Haplotype amongst other groups.
      *The issue is my father's mother is also N9b, which is his mitochondria dna.
      My grandmother who was also pure Japanese but now I know 'we' are not!
      My mother's Mitochondria DNA from mother side is D4n1a.
      This one carried by
      D4n - Korean
      D4n1a - Japanese
      Kyrgyzstan (Kyrgyz)
      I trace back my mother's DNA, I came from Kashgar Prefecture in Turkistan (China).
      Now, it is called Uyghur Countries by the bordering with Uzbekistan and Kyrgyzstan.

    • @Miki-fl9ez
      @Miki-fl9ez 2 года назад +2

      @@AdoptedCats Are you able to trace your ancestry to before Edo? That's more than 400 years.
      Besides, you have to look if your area was a point of Christian preaching near a port.

    • @Miki-fl9ez
      @Miki-fl9ez 2 года назад +1

      Besides, I2 is weird for a Nomad.
      We have to go to the most probable.
      The steppe is not very I2. The Eastern Mediterranean is.
      And a guy that is send to the other place of the world makes sense.
      Also, we have a woman who is also sent to the other point of the world.
      That has to be part of the same migration.

  • @bonk2540
    @bonk2540 2 года назад +8

    Really great video but also all of your videos are superb,im glad we have someone like you that actually talks about hg etc..which is not so popular today..
    Greetings from Croat who is I2 I-PH908 branch,slavic invader :D

    • @Svarog187
      @Svarog187 2 года назад

      Croats are the ancestors of Illyrians and Thracians.

    • @DinaricUbermensch
      @DinaricUbermensch Год назад +7

      @@Svarog187 south slavs are not native to balkan, his clade I-PH908 was not found in ancient balkan remains

    • @Svevladovich
      @Svevladovich Год назад +3

      @@Svarog187 Још имаш Сварога у имену.. Што га онда славе и Источни и Западни Словени? Нема лагања, измешани јесмо али смо остало Словени, макар у мом случају.

    • @enderman_666
      @enderman_666 Год назад +2

      @@Svevladovich sramota je koliko se Južni Sloveni stide svog slovenstva, do te mjere da izmišljaju, maštaju i lažu sami sebe

    • @Svevladovich
      @Svevladovich Год назад +2

      @@enderman_666 Ма да брате, знам оног Деретића што присваја Александра Великог (Грк из дорског племена), па да су Срби сазидали Вавилонски торањ заједно са Нино Беловим итд..
      Држава нам се распада, све мање Срба у Србији а вамо као најјачи и најстарији народ..

  • @Silvervalist
    @Silvervalist Год назад +3

    Super good job! Fantastic!!

  • @johankarlsson6
    @johankarlsson6 10 месяцев назад +3

    I1 from Sweden here. To me from looking at the charts it seems that I1 has spread from Scandinavia rather than the opposite. Being the case with R1b and R1a that came to Scandinavia in the Late neolithic/Bronze age.
    Overall it seems that I1 is associated with heavy stature and blond hair.
    Another thing is viking heritage but it is not the reason why I1 rose in numbers after the Ice age. It can be that the I1 were better hunters or that they simply wiped out other men from other bands.

  • @skeptic781
    @skeptic781 Год назад +3

    My swedish maternal grandfather is I-Z140 (I1)

  • @user-dg5vx8li8f
    @user-dg5vx8li8f Год назад +3

    The original Germanic, northern and Balkan peoples of Europe must preserve their haplogroup I of Indo-European R Asian replacement

  • @chipoo
    @chipoo 2 года назад +20

    Change the voice back. This one is creepy

    • @marin4311
      @marin4311 2 года назад

      yes indeed.

    • @Step-n-Wolf
      @Step-n-Wolf Год назад +2

      The computer pronunciation is horrible. B is bytes? No, not at all.

    • @msrafaela83
      @msrafaela83 13 дней назад

      😂😂😂😂

  • @СтараРашка
    @СтараРашка 2 года назад +10

    I2+I1 the oldest europeans, today only 18% off european population.

  • @abdulazizclare9545
    @abdulazizclare9545 Год назад +3

    I see my Y male line dna test showing I- M170 my family roots is UK and Normandy

  • @injanhoi1
    @injanhoi1 7 месяцев назад +1

    Good video! My haplotype is I-Z2040. Do you have any information about this?

    • @Knajsan
      @Knajsan 8 дней назад

      Your dead, lol.

  • @RPSchonherr
    @RPSchonherr 11 месяцев назад +2

    I don't like these computer-generated voices. They pronounce things so badly sometimes but I guess it's better than a non-native English speaker. My main Haplogroup is I1a2b and goes in the I1z138 group. This goes along with my father's father's family coming from Saxon Germany region. Both my mother and father have ancestry from the Netherlands, France, Spain, and England, giving me other subgroups like J2a1i, I2a2a, and O1a1.

    • @MMakedonia
      @MMakedonia 4 дня назад +1

      My haplogroup is I2a1b, I am from the Balkans

  • @gerillazack77
    @gerillazack77 Месяц назад

    About the origin of Serbs and Croats 2: Only our ancestors, refugees of the Tripolye-Carpathian culture I2a1b-L621, will retreat to the mountains, keep the old name Korbati (Sarbati) and slowly become Indo-Europeanized, by various peoples of Thraco-Kimmerians, Dacians, Celts, Italians, Greeks, Scythians, Sarmatians, Slavs, but the root and the name of its origin will keep and we have mention of various ancient topographic settlements, rivers, mountains, etc... for example: - Karbantia (place.Balcola/Baltiola/prov.city.Alessandria/region.Piedmont/North. Italy) and Skarbantia (Sopron/Odenburg/Hungary), Karbantorigum/Karbantium(Rayburnfoot/Eskdalemuir-Lang+holm/south.Scotland)Karvetii(city.Carlisle/Selgovia/north.England), mythical Sarbacum(Moldova/Transnistria/Tripolye?Dnieper/Ukraine ???), Serbinum-Serbitium (Breuci/Oseriati/Mezei/Kolapini/Serrapili/Serri/Pannonia/Old. Gradiška), Sorbiodurum city place of worship of the goddess Solvae/Suleviae? (today's Straubing-Bavaria), Sorbiodunum (Old Sarum/Salisbury) Stonehenge Britain,
    as the Northwestern IE group R1b, the forerunner of the Italo-Celts, spread, and later the Celtic expansion, certain tribes of Aryanized Korbats (Korbati-Koribanti-Sarbati-Karpii) spread the old name of their ancestors... Namely, the origin of the name Karba/Karpa has several assumptions and meanings, some examples are the names:
    1-Latin "Carpentum" (two-wheeled cart, wagon) which was believed to be a loan from the Gaulish Carbanton, but is most likely from the Latin "Carpo" (to collect) and most likely a loan from the Greek Kαρποω (Karpou) fruit picker, collector, which is connected with the English Harvest (harvest), which again connects us with "Koshare/Korpe", i.e. the form of "Baskets", namely the name of the mountain Korab and Korablje (small easily transportable boats) are associated with the shape of the Carpathians and the mere translation of the name of the Karpii tribe, after which that mountain range is named and got a name. Let's say that the migrants were crossing the great river Danube with "ships" and when the long small boat turns upside down to land further on, the appearance resembles a sharp spine-vertebrae (back-ship). Etymologists come to the conclusion that Carpi and Carpathians got their name from pie. Ker/sker (peak, optra rock, rock), Sansktit. Kar(to cut) and Latin scarpa(to cut sharply), lit. Karpyti (saw-sharp mountain peaks), Romanian. Škarpa (precipice), but it also has the Old Slavic name Krepu (strong, brave).
    2- grb, srb, hrbat (rbat), rbat, gorovit, verhovjani, brigi, brsjaci, brjani, beregezit, all of these are the same ethnonym from Korb-Karpa (scarp-sharp peaks, rocks, ridges), just a name for the climate that they inhabit...hills and hills but also steep banks of rivers and cliffs.
    3- So the Korbats/Koribants/Carpathians are Korablje (boats-ships) which, when turned upside down, resemble a mountain range - a vertebral spine with sharp points like a saw and a saber, and the Korab is then a Basket/Basket, and turned upside down it represents "Koliba"(Hut) the protection from storms coldness and danger, and a lonely peak such as the old name for the peak of Mount Olympus "Korybe", which etymologists translate as the pointed peak of "Crown", and then the Korybants (capo-pointed - Phrygian cap) personification of mountain peaks where the gods live?goddess Mother Cybele?

  • @vincentjennings6347
    @vincentjennings6347 2 года назад +11

    I do like your well researched video, but please lose the AI voice. There are too many bad pronunciations and blurring between words, I am English and it was painful at times to understand, a non English speaker is going to struggle. Get a real person to narrate or just stick to subtitles. When saying SNP use the word 'snip'.
    I am another I2a1b1(I-M223) so I am used to being overlooked by the I1(I-M253) and I2a1a(I-P37) majority, so I will forgive you this time, but if you ever do an update do a little research into the minor Haplogroups of I. I-M223 and I-L38 were among the first settlers of the North Western European mainland, Doggerland and the British Isles, see the archaeology of most of the Mesolithic, Neolithic and early Bronze age stone structures and Barrow burials in the British Isles, there is always a I2a1b connected.

  • @Svarog187
    @Svarog187 2 года назад +1

    Amazing Content. Waiting for the next Upload.

    • @geonomad1
      @geonomad1  2 года назад

      Thanks 😊 🙏 😊

  • @spearcarrier9595
    @spearcarrier9595 11 месяцев назад +3

    My I2 haplogroup (I comes from J which is middle eastern) actual historical family came from Switzerland. They migrated from the Caucasus Mountains near the river Danube 500 years ago. The end of the Swiss Alps is at the river Danube in that same valley so this makes sense. In real history, the Assyrian empire dropped off some northern tribes of Israel in that valley some 2500 years ago. This was how the Assyrians conquered people. They scattered them over their empire. One of those tribes was Dan, which might explain the name of the river. Why I mention this is that my particular Y DNA also has all of the (exceedingly rare) snp markers for the tribe of Levi. Levites were scattered throughout ancient Israel. They did not own land and served each tribe. Real history trumps evolutionary dating scenarios which have nothing to with what real humans did. History is much closer than we think. Our ancestors are much closer than we think. We need to start thinking in terms of a few thousand years of human history.

    • @nedzadeljazovic3594
      @nedzadeljazovic3594 11 месяцев назад +1

      my y haplogroup is I2. in Bosnia and Herzegovina very dominant, even over 60 percent, in Herzegovina over 70 percent

    • @davidbenyahuda5190
      @davidbenyahuda5190 10 месяцев назад +1

      If you are not human according to science you can not be an Israelite. E1B1A is the blood of Israel and E1b1b is the blood of Cush. Our Torah starts with Genesis ie human origins IE Black people. Shalom

    • @spearcarrier9595
      @spearcarrier9595 10 месяцев назад

      E1B1A and E1b1b are from Africa as you state. However, I do not buy into the Evolutionary theory that humanity began in Africa. I believe the Biblical narrative that life started again after the flood in the Mesopotamian river valley South of the Mountains of Ararat from Noah's descendants, Shem, Ham, and Japheth. Shem is the ancestor of the Jews. All genetic scientists that I am aware of agree that J1 and J2 and I haplogroups come from the Levant, the Middle East and this is the origins of ancient Jewish DNA. I also know my actual family ancestors. They were Sephardic Jewish.@@davidbenyahuda5190

    • @damianscott3710
      @damianscott3710 7 месяцев назад

      I didn't come from J; I and J are haplogroup siblings came from their father haplogroup IJ.

    • @damianscott3710
      @damianscott3710 7 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@davidbenyahuda5190Haplogroup I has no family ties with haplogroup E

  • @Alejojojo6
    @Alejojojo6 11 месяцев назад +1

    Still, the most prevalent Haplogroup in Scandinavia is R1b that accounts for 50% of all male paternal lines. I1 comes second to 40-30% of all haplogroups. So Vikings and Germanic groups probably had R1b but did not stood out when they mix up with the locals in the rest of europe (particularly atlantic europe) where as high as 80% of people have R1b.

    • @Sara-sn1tt
      @Sara-sn1tt 11 месяцев назад +4

      I1 is the most common Haplogroup for the y-chromosome in Scandinavia countries, it’s found at over 35% in all countries individually.The highest frequencies are found in certain cities in Sweden at over 52% and even outside of it such as Finland.

    • @Sara-sn1tt
      @Sara-sn1tt 11 месяцев назад +4

      I1 in Sweden, denmark, and Norway is found between 35-40% and R1b is found at around 20%. In certain cities in Sweden the i1 Haplogroup is found at 52% in cities such as Gotland.

  • @SimpleMinded221
    @SimpleMinded221 2 года назад +3

    I'm I-S1954, I believe I1a2a1a1a. Where are its origins ? Southern Scandinavia/northern Germany? My paternal line goes back to germany north Rhine westphalia.

    • @geonomad1
      @geonomad1  2 года назад +2

      I'm guessing it's north of Hamburg or Denmark.

    • @marcellochriscitiello1870
      @marcellochriscitiello1870 Год назад +2

      I'm positive for I1-Y7278 and further. I think the oldest sample for Y7278 was found in Langeland, Denmark...

  • @human8454
    @human8454 Год назад +1

    Please make a video a about Haplogroup R2 or R2a .😺

  • @Ghost2743
    @Ghost2743 2 года назад +1

    Eyetooahwuntooahwunbites..
    haha I appreciate the graphic work though, what did you use?
    How did you mention L161 and M26 but NOT M284?? We're rare af but still more populous than those two sister clades of mine.

    • @geonomad1
      @geonomad1  2 года назад

      Sorry for not mentioning all SNPs. Please understand. And I made an animation using after effect.

  • @coolwinder
    @coolwinder 2 года назад +12

    That blooper at 13:33, "Dinaric Slavs" they are Slavs of Yugoslavia, along Dinaric Mountains in Balkans, and not around Minsk as indicated. I am not sure if i can trust these map indications any more.

    • @Mina-mb4bh
      @Mina-mb4bh 2 года назад +6

      Yes but origin of I2 PH908(dinaric slavs) is in that place.

    • @coolwinder
      @coolwinder 2 года назад

      @@Mina-mb4bh i haplogroups are old-european, they might have been all across Europe, before getting exterminated. But the I2 that is on Balkans, is there where it was for very very long, long enough that it should never be placed as originating somewhere else. But i see why someone would like to do that, for fake-nation building projects and history rewriting:)

    • @NousoftheSupreme
      @NousoftheSupreme Год назад +2

      @@Mina-mb4bh Lol, that claim is as legit as the map indication "Dinaric salves" LOL

    • @HeavyPace77
      @HeavyPace77 Год назад +1

      No we are exactly what he said DINARIC RACE. It's where the term Slavs come. Term Slav came from Slavonia a region of Croatia. In ancient Slavonic it meant Cousin. Hence why all Slavs are connected through blood

    • @numenoreaneternity6682
      @numenoreaneternity6682 Год назад +3

      The Y-DNA's name does not mean that it's native to the Dinaric Mountains, I2a1b-Din is a Proto-Slavic Y-DNA that diverged some 2300 years ago in Belarus and is absent among historical non-Slavic peoples, and all of her archaeogenetic findings are Early and Medieval Slavs.

  • @memyselfi0120
    @memyselfi0120 2 года назад +8

    Gobkili Tepe
    Danubian Civilization
    Funnelbeaker culture 👍👍

    • @geonomad1
      @geonomad1  2 года назад +1

      Thanks 😊 🙏 😊 🙏

  • @olowrohek9540
    @olowrohek9540 Год назад +3

    Oh cheers mate
    We have many megalithic structures in Poland from Funel beaker culture about 6 000 years ago .
    But nobody cares really a shame

  • @_Artem
    @_Artem Год назад +1

    Dear author, can you make signs bigger because they’re too small even on iPad?

  • @Abulca
    @Abulca 6 месяцев назад

    Hello, Thanks for this video. I saw that I2a2 (I-L596) is sometimes called I2c. Which one is true? Also, do we know the exact migration path of this subbranch?

  • @haffoc
    @haffoc Год назад +1

    wish there had been more on I2 L596.

  • @jarjeesdr2734
    @jarjeesdr2734 11 месяцев назад +2

    My Haplogroup is I !!! I am from Mesopotamia

  • @michaeljotoyajackson7294
    @michaeljotoyajackson7294 Год назад +1

    +@geonomad1 : Where are parts 5 & 6 at please....?? 🤔

  • @tyler6815
    @tyler6815 2 года назад +2

    My paternal haplogroup is I-y5692, but I haven’t found any information on what that actual means when looking at the last 20,000 years. Do you know?

    • @geonomad1
      @geonomad1  2 года назад +1

      The haplogroup is I2a1b1a2b1a2a3a2 and is believed to have first appeared in England about 2700 years ago.

    • @tyler6815
      @tyler6815 2 года назад +1

      @@geonomad1 thanks! Very interesting

  • @viterban5897
    @viterban5897 2 года назад +5

    Rather nicely done but, unfortunately, no mention of I2a1a1b (S21825) subclade under I2a1a1 (CTS595). Only sibling I2a1a1a (M26) although they have a comparable number of beares and they are equal basic subclades of CTS595. I'm also missing important I-M170 ancient sample from Pavlov1 (30,350 ybp) near Dolní Věstonice.

    • @geonomad1
      @geonomad1  2 года назад +3

      Please understand that not all SNPs could be plotted on the map. All Acient DNA will be introduced in a separate video.

  • @clanyoung14
    @clanyoung14 15 дней назад

    Hey. What about I2b? Almost nothing abut it.

  • @tonynordlander9626
    @tonynordlander9626 Год назад +5

    Im a I2 mtdr X Sweden

  • @tengolino9803
    @tengolino9803 8 месяцев назад +2

    So its almost very easy. People from the Balkan are autochtone People from Europe. Oldest culture in Europe is Lepenski vir in today's Serbia. That's a lot of trouble for the science. A 40 thousand year continuity is a big thing and of course changes everything. Now this is scientific proof, and that's a fact. The story of the later coming i2 from Ukraine is ridiculous, absolutely.

    • @Svarog187
      @Svarog187 7 месяцев назад

      Google "Illyrian Personals Anthoponyms" or "Kjolmen Inscription Bulgaria" Illyrians and Thracians are Slavic people.

  • @josemaurosantos1531
    @josemaurosantos1531 Год назад

    maternal lineage
    Your haplogroup is:
    THE
    Haplogroup A emerged in Asia about 40 to 60 thousand years ago. Descending from lineage N, representatives of this haplogroup can be found from Central Asia to Siberia and regions of the Americas. This lineage is believed to have originated in Asia and made its way to America via the Bering Strait during the last Ice Age.
    🇧🇷
    Mitochondrial Eve
    200 to 99 thousand years
    L1: Africa
    170 to 100 thousand years
    L3: Africa
    105 to 80 thousand years
    N: exit from Africa
    80 to 60 thousand years
    A: Asia and Americas
    60 to 40 thousand years

    • @eytharburhan8869
      @eytharburhan8869 Год назад +1

      Thank you and may God bless you ❤

    • @josemaurosantos1531
      @josemaurosantos1531 Год назад +1

      🇧🇷
      Paternal Lineage
      The Paternal Lineage test indicates the route taken by your paternal ancestors, from the first man, who gave rise to all human beings alive today, born more than 100,000 years ago in Africa. To discover this route, an analysis of the Y chromosome is carried out, a fragment of DNA that is always passed from father to son, and is present only in biological men. A person's Y chromosome is usually identical to that of their father, their paternal grandfather, that grandfather's father, and so on. But over generations, DNA can mutate, becoming slightly different from its ancestors. Knowing these mutations and analyzing their genetic sequence, it is possible to classify the different Y chromosomes into subtypes, called haplogroups. Each haplogroup had a route and tells a unique story throughout humanity.
      Paternal Lineage
      Your haplogroup is:
      I
      Born between 35 and 25 thousand years ago, haplogroup I represents one of the first peoples of Europe, having several descendant lineages that spread throughout the European territory during the last Ice Age, having its maximum frequency in the Balkans. It is one of the most numerous haplogroups among European males, being the second largest paternal lineage found on the continent (second only to the R lineage). Its I1 branch is related to Nordic Europe, ancestor of Germanic tribes and Vikings, while I2 is strongly related to Neolithic cultures.
      🇧🇷
      Y-chromosomal Adam
      160 to 120 thousand years
      A: Africa
      140 to 90 thousand years
      BT: Africa
      85 to 60 thousand years
      CT: Africa
      80 to 60 thousand years
      CF: Leaving Africa
      75 to 60 thousand years
      F: Leaving Africa
      62 to 57 thousand years
      IJ: Haplogroup parent of I and J
      45 to 30 thousand years
      I: Eastern Eurasia
      35 to 25 thousand years

  • @agostocobain2729
    @agostocobain2729 Год назад +1

    so most people in the Middle East are J1-J2?

  • @shikhartiwari854
    @shikhartiwari854 2 года назад +1

    Well this video do not have irritating sounds anymore. But narration is way too monotonous. Just a constructive criticism

    • @geonomad1
      @geonomad1  2 года назад +1

      Thank you. I will try to improve little by little in the future.

  • @ahmetgunduz4012
    @ahmetgunduz4012 4 месяца назад +1

    My Y-DNA is I2a. And i am Anatolian Arabic from Mardin/Turkey. This is very shocking.

    • @vaniaaprillia9495
      @vaniaaprillia9495 2 месяца назад +1

      What is your height?

    • @ahmetgunduz4012
      @ahmetgunduz4012 2 месяца назад

      @@vaniaaprillia9495 1.79 cm

    • @papazataklaattiranimam
      @papazataklaattiranimam 2 месяца назад

      @@ahmetgunduz4012 alt dalı biliyor musun

    • @papazataklaattiranimam
      @papazataklaattiranimam 2 месяца назад

      @@ahmetgunduz4012 çok büyük ihtimalle araplaşmış haçlısın veya slavsın hem anadoluda hem ortadoğuda çok nadir I2

  • @bibib5888
    @bibib5888 Год назад +1

    Southern Balkan Slavs Srbi, Hrvati I2a Haplogroup.
    Shem, Arphaxad, Eber/Irbi, Peleg. Both Strabon and Pausanias say the Pelagon is the same person as Pelasgus the Greek version of Peleg, father of Eber, eponymous progenitor of Hebrews. The Iliad says that the Pelagons son was Asteropaeus. He lived in Paeonia in the Balkans, located just north in modern Macedonia. He led the unit of soldiers from Paeonia that helped the Trojans.

    • @davidbenyahuda5190
      @davidbenyahuda5190 10 месяцев назад

      As an Israelite and an historian who has had the privilege to study history from primary sources available to serious academics I can assure you that our Torah starts with Genesis ie human origins IE Black people and that we are a family group and not a religion. To believe otherwise is definitely demonic in nature. Shalom

    • @verenatuna9010
      @verenatuna9010 4 месяца назад

      ​@@davidbenyahuda5190😂🤣

  • @mirceaenea1637
    @mirceaenea1637 2 года назад +10

    Romanian ,Yugoslaves and Bulgarian are oldest in Europe

    • @geonomad1
      @geonomad1  2 года назад +2

      I think it has a long tradition to be proud of.

    • @ZieziExQuoVulgares80
      @ZieziExQuoVulgares80 2 года назад +1

      Not only in Europe. From my mother side HG - L3, from my father HG - I

  • @nupeldadpaker9320
    @nupeldadpaker9320 Год назад +1

    Content is good but infomercial style narration is really irritating.

  • @alexeysaphonov232
    @alexeysaphonov232 7 месяцев назад

    Gravettian and Epigravettian are not cultures (to little to call it so), they are usually called Industries.

  • @francocossu9192
    @francocossu9192 Год назад +1

    L’errore di fondo è la teoria delle migrazioni

  • @Amai-Kurvi-Tasch
    @Amai-Kurvi-Tasch 9 месяцев назад +1

    Since haplogroup I appeared in europe before the last glacier maxima,are they technically the cro magnons?

    • @Svarog187
      @Svarog187 7 месяцев назад +2

      yes, also known as First Hunter and Gatharer.

    • @Amai-Kurvi-Tasch
      @Amai-Kurvi-Tasch 7 месяцев назад

      @@Svarog187Thanks for your reply. I thought the cro magnons went extinct with the neanderthals

    • @Timehasfallenasleep
      @Timehasfallenasleep 3 месяца назад +1

      @@Amai-Kurvi-Tasch - I think Cro-magnons evolved into European modern humans. They are not a separate species like Neanderthals. Cro-magnons just had robust physical features but otherwise were identical to modern humans.

  • @kenanhasan9784
    @kenanhasan9784 2 года назад +1

    Very informativ video. Super graphic effects . Thanks.

  • @oneday4227
    @oneday4227 2 года назад +1

    Why did he mention y - R1b? This has no relevance to Y - I

    • @tribal4244
      @tribal4244 Год назад +4

      Relevance is because R1b made genocide over group old European "I" and than continue to do the same on every continent on this planet

  • @arthurrobey4945
    @arthurrobey4945 5 месяцев назад

    I propose that the Jotnar were the "Neanderthals",.
    The I haplogroup were the Vannier and the R haplogroup were the Asier on the Tree of Life, (Irminsul to us Saxons, and Yggdrasil to the Asier.)

  • @cynthiamclaglen5687
    @cynthiamclaglen5687 Год назад +5

    "H" is sometimes called "Himalaya" FROM iNDIA originally. Thanks for these very clear maps which are marvellous. Cynthia Allen McLaglen

    • @Anonymous------
      @Anonymous------ Год назад +2

      The name Himalaya is transliterated from the Indo-Aryan Vedic Sanskrit name, Himavan.

  • @juhaszat
    @juhaszat 2 месяца назад

    why on earth do you use this AI voice? it kills this fantastic content.

  • @Miki-fl9ez
    @Miki-fl9ez 2 года назад +1

    We know of Nenaderthals in Yemen??
    Because if we don't, it's most likely CF get out from the Israel way.

  • @davidjones7776
    @davidjones7776 2 месяца назад +1

    people did not come from africa they went to africa

  • @oneday4227
    @oneday4227 2 года назад

    Subclades are the small branch of the major clade from the middle east .....

  • @matityahubenavraham2970
    @matityahubenavraham2970 2 года назад +2

    ❤️❤️

  • @malaj.1480
    @malaj.1480 2 года назад

    What happened to H? Have you skipped it? How disappointing, I was looking forward to that story :(

    • @geonomad1
      @geonomad1  2 года назад +1

      I'll make it after doing a little more research.

    • @malaj.1480
      @malaj.1480 2 года назад

      @@geonomad1 many thanks, looking forward to it :)

  • @ChroniclesofAlicha_Balaam
    @ChroniclesofAlicha_Balaam Год назад

    This term "European" appears to not include our more ancient ancestor lineage going back a million and half years prior to your maps! Let me go back and see if you trace those more ancient roots to which holds a longer legacy in our formation of who we are as "Europeans".

    • @angelmoreno6577
      @angelmoreno6577 11 месяцев назад

      The "europeans" lives 1 million years ago are neanderthals, today extinted

    • @angelmoreno6577
      @angelmoreno6577 6 месяцев назад

      Million and half of years, only living ancestors of Neanderthal

  • @jeffbreezee
    @jeffbreezee Месяц назад

    I wish I could talk this robot! 😂

  • @aaronjackson3671
    @aaronjackson3671 2 года назад

    No mention of i-l22?

  • @tomarthur7951
    @tomarthur7951 10 месяцев назад

    I 1 M253 here out of Sutton / Hooe Names associated with Norman Conquest are Sutton of Dudley de Coursey female line of Sutton/Hooe, White, Rice,/Rhys of Tenby wales, Cochrane, Surrey, Howard, Edward I, Edward III Henry IV Bollingbroke, to Tudor DC Rice 1948 9th ggson of Robert Dudley 1532

  • @thevoiceharmonic
    @thevoiceharmonic 2 года назад +1

    the Daub river. Very funny

  • @Gguy061
    @Gguy061 5 месяцев назад

    Any other I-Z60 here?

  • @olowrohek9540
    @olowrohek9540 Год назад +1

    Could You speak little slower please with this strange accent hard to understand;-)

  • @amonamaria2000
    @amonamaria2000 Год назад

    I want to know about the mitochondra d n a not the y. Because the seed of the promise was passed to sarah. The barren women That was visited by an angel. That's the line of the messiah .We go by the mother's Tribe not the father.

    • @davidbenyahuda5190
      @davidbenyahuda5190 10 месяцев назад

      As an Israelite and an historian who has had the privilege to study history from primary sources available to serious academics I can assure you that our Torah starts with Genesis ie human origins IE Black people and that we trace our lineage according to our Torah through our fathers. Remember, we are the children of Israel not his wives. Identity theft is a crime against humanity. Stop lying.

  • @ilonkastille2993
    @ilonkastille2993 11 месяцев назад +1

    These fake voices are very unpleasant to listen to. Half of it is not comprehensible. Therefore whoever wants to « educate » us on these and other matters, should use a normal human voice.

  • @chriswas6614
    @chriswas6614 Год назад +3

    Hello fellow I’s

  • @HafizahBteFadillah
    @HafizahBteFadillah 8 месяцев назад

    only Jewish of middle eastern descendants. Not European jews, they are khazaria turkic converted Judaism

  • @josemaurosantos1531
    @josemaurosantos1531 Год назад +2

    very good your work I always had several doubts about human origin if in the past there was this type of research perhaps humanity would not have so much racial prejudice knowing that all of us human beings originate from African peoples...

  • @michaelhutton6871
    @michaelhutton6871 11 месяцев назад +1

    On the topic at hand. The Bible and the Koran tell us that Arabs and Jews have a common ancestor, Abraham. The progenitor of the Arabs was Ishmael, who Abraham sired with Sarah's (his wife) maidservant. The progenitor of the Jews was Isaac, his son with Sarah. The hatred between these two peoples was initiated when Abraham gave his blessing to Isaac even though Ishmael was the first-born son.

    • @davidbenyahuda5190
      @davidbenyahuda5190 10 месяцев назад +2

      Do you think that a book that starts with Genesis ie human origins is not about Black people? Wow

    • @michaelhutton6871
      @michaelhutton6871 10 месяцев назад +1

      @davidbenyahuda5190 I think that point is established in two contexts. Biblically, the black peoples are descendants of Ham. Those people derived from the middle east and there's no Bible scholar worth considering that doesn't hold that the Euro people descended from Japeth, or Yapet. The middle eastern people came from Shem. The black people from Ham or Canaan. Further, genetic studies show the Mesopotamian people, Arabs and Persians all descended from either Semitic people, Shem's line or from the northern people, from Gog, which appears to be from Japheth. But black people do not appear genetically in those populations until much later in history.
      This is not opinion.... it's fact derived from science. I, coincidentally, happened to be studying this right now. I was curious about the origins of middle eastern peoples, partly because of what's in the news and also because it's relevant when studying the Old Testament.
      You don't have to take my word for it. This is pretty well studied stuff. I know what you believe. It's sort of a useless deviation from traditional Bible perspective. We should not be driven by race thinking. That is a thing of pride, division and, as such, it is unGodly.

  • @gotfridrozenkrojc9040
    @gotfridrozenkrojc9040 2 года назад +6

    Lepenski Vir culture 9 500BC=I2

    • @tribal4244
      @tribal4244 Год назад +4

      It does not correspond to Germanic interests, so it is not visible. They still believe that they will rule as far as the Black Sea, so they have to cherish all the historical fabrications from the past, such as the immigration of the Slavs

  • @ahmad_1110
    @ahmad_1110 2 года назад +1

    J2-Z7700>Sk1382 ?

    • @voanirges
      @voanirges Год назад

      ancient Greek probably

    • @ahmad_1110
      @ahmad_1110 Год назад

      @@voanirges
      حسب النتائج المعلنة
      يتواجد هذا التحور في هذه البلدان
      تونس الاردن ( حمص سوريا ) وبلاد اسيا الوسطى ان صح الوصف

    • @voanirges
      @voanirges Год назад

      @@ahmad_1110 J2 2is typical for ancient Greece, this specific mutation not sure, but J1 is typical for Arabs and Jews for example....

  • @DoctorCata
    @DoctorCata Месяц назад

    We are the first gypsy? :)))) why i dont belive in this theory ? :))

  • @ThePauly901
    @ThePauly901 2 года назад +2

    the voice, arh

  • @Shoey77100
    @Shoey77100 10 месяцев назад

    I think blue eyes come down to us from the I haplogroup, but they had dark skin and many features associated with ancient and modern Africans... fascinating stuff, thanks for the video.

    • @vesnajelovac3951
      @vesnajelovac3951 2 месяца назад

      White skin is very recent mutation, 6000 years old.

  • @oneday4227
    @oneday4227 2 года назад +4

    I 1 Is not Germanic because it has origins from the middle east ....
    R1b is Gernanic

    • @stambreaker
      @stambreaker 2 года назад +12

      Buddy u mixed something up here the I haplogroup is the only haplogroup that originated in Europe.
      R1b on the other hand came into existence in western Asia (Middle east). Both I1 and R1b are Germanic tho and you know why? Because a Germanic tribe wasn't just a homogenic group originating from one dude but the mix of the Yamnaya and the natives living in Northern Europe at that time. R1b were just the Yamnaya mingling with the l1 population up there and were more Asian than some shepherd in some Anatolian mountain range.

    • @oneday4227
      @oneday4227 2 года назад +3

      @@stambreaker wrong. ...Haplogroup IJ is the grandfather of Haplogroup I ....Hap I and J separated their ways in the middle east ....Modern day Europeans have R1b and R1 a coming from Central Asia ...
      Haplogroup I comes from Haplogroup IJK .....The 3 was fused together long time ago in the middle east before the existence of the German language. .
      Just saying .....

    • @geonomad1
      @geonomad1  2 года назад +7

      According to the Germanic substrate hypothesis Proto-Germanic was a hybrid language mixing Indo-European (R1b, and to a lower extent R1a) and pre-Indo-European (Mesolithic I2 and Neolithic G2a and I1) elements. This hybridisation would have taken place during the Bronze Age and given birth to the first Proto-Germanic civilization, the Nordic Bronze Age (1700-500 BCE).

    • @il967
      @il967 2 года назад +2

      It's a whg haplogroup

    • @oneday4227
      @oneday4227 2 года назад

      @@il967 ?

  • @Rafael-zl7fh
    @Rafael-zl7fh Год назад

    Ah nuts? We are one humanity! But we are very very very mutated humans. By climate, blood types and DNA! every 220years. Apply that to the timelines.

  • @b.h.6250
    @b.h.6250 Год назад

    You make it seem in the video as though P37.2 has been in the Balkans since 16.7 kya. Yet, to my knowledge, that is not the case. The subclades in Southern Slavs came there much later.

  • @govang5191
    @govang5191 2 года назад

    Dont care as long it's no an Englishmans voice OK ,
    An eh Aye 👏 yir vid and info .

  • @angelina6543
    @angelina6543 4 месяца назад +1

    What a propaganda. They all came from Balkans

  • @frankjoseph4273
    @frankjoseph4273 Год назад

    Does anyone really think that 10,000 years is enough time to completely transform one race into another ?

  • @nikemozack7269
    @nikemozack7269 Год назад

    You placed Dinaric Slavs on the map @ 17:19 minute in today's Ukraine instead of former Yugoslavia.

  • @HeavyPace77
    @HeavyPace77 Год назад +3

    Yes Montenegrins, Dalmatians, Herzegovinians, Serbs, Croats carry I haplogruop and it is believed that these ppl came from India to the Balkans prior to Younger Dryas, so about 17.000 years ago. First "Aryans" that came to Europe.
    We who carry this haplogruop have a knowledge of this that goes from fathers to sons.
    We are one with our Scandinavian brothers and sisters.
    Also Alexander the Great and his father Filip were pure Slavs...Serbs to be exact off of one of Scythian tribe.

    • @ludlik2839
      @ludlik2839 Год назад

      I am Serb in Montenegro with haplogroup I2a CTS 10228 Y3120 S17250 PH-908

    • @jameschilemi4690
      @jameschilemi4690 9 месяцев назад +1

      Alexander the Great wasn’t a Slav. You can’t use modern day Macedonians as an example because they migrated there in the 7th century AD.

    • @vesnajelovac3951
      @vesnajelovac3951 2 месяца назад

      Hahaha

    • @chloeee4286
      @chloeee4286 2 месяца назад

      Modern day macedonians are I2a and E1b1b1 ​@jameschilemi4690

    • @Judge_Magister
      @Judge_Magister 22 дня назад

      The ancient Macedonians were Hellens that mixed a bit with Illyrians and Thracians.

  • @gerillazack77
    @gerillazack77 Месяц назад

    About the origin of Serbs and Croats 1: Although Pliny the Younger, Herodotus and Ptolemy mention the Serbs as one of the tribes of the Sarmatians, they came to that area of ​​Lower Volgograd (today's Kalmykia) from the west, that is (Carpathians/Korbati-Koribanti-Sarbati-Karpii, Harpii ,Colpida), a long time ago, when the Proto-Indo-Europeans were spreading from the north. They, as well as we, are the surviving inhabitants of the Carpathian-Tripoli civilization and belonged to the I2a1 haplogroup, which is in Serbian and Romanian descent, the most dominant in the form of the younger cluster I2a1b-L621. That Old European civilization was greatly influenced by and the successor of the Carpathian part of Starčevo Southwestern Central, which was a multi-ethnic mix of various Neolithic haplogroups from the Middle East, Africa, the Caucasus and Old Europe. The oldest was probably I2a1 which was the only one that survived and took place in Sardinia they were the first to practice the worship of the mother goddess Cybele which can be seen from her figurines all over Europe even before the Neolithic. However, according to all the data, the Caucasian haplogroup G2a is the majority among the later people from Vinča. They most likely brought the initial primitive skills of ore smelting, and copper was first smelted in the Balkans for the first time, and later with the Caucasian colonists came "tin", which is said to have given the Caucasus itself its name (the Greeks called the Caucasus "Kasiperos" and tin (Kasiteros ie the ore of the "Kassite" people, Kov+Kass? = Kassite ore?), hence perhaps the Caucasus itself and tin got its name, that is, after the Kassites and the Caspian Sea/lake later and the Caspian people who lived there, the ancestors of the Caucasians Albanians? Maybe, who knows)! Vinčanica is said to be the oldest proto-script and that it came with haplogroups most likely from J2b and E1b who were the bearers of the Neolithic and colonizers of the first Natufian civilization and Gobekli Tepe and Çatal Hiyuk, however it came most likely with the G2a haplogroup from Anatolia and they were metallurgically, agriculturally, religiously, and commercially developed, so the proto-writing came independently of itself, because they settled at the great commercial crossroads of old Europe, exchanged customs and cultures with the north, west, south, and east from which the ancestors of the Aryans of the Indo-Europeans will come to their heads and be totally exterminated in all of Europe...

  • @michaelfoort2592
    @michaelfoort2592 11 месяцев назад

    Arent the Israelis Russians?

  • @papazataklaattiranimam
    @papazataklaattiranimam Год назад +2

    Real Europeans

    • @skeptic781
      @skeptic781 Год назад +1

      Learn what a haplogroup is before you yap. It doesn't indicate who comes from where.

  • @ZieziExQuoVulgares80
    @ZieziExQuoVulgares80 2 года назад +1

    Haplogroup I its came from the territory of present-day Iraq. Haplogroup I2a its came
    the territory of present-day Bulgaria

    • @josemaurosantos1531
      @josemaurosantos1531 Год назад +1

      Paternal Lineage
      Your haplogroup is:
      I
      Born between 35 and 28 thousand years ago, haplogroup I represents one of the first peoples of Europe, having several descendant lineages that spread throughout the European territory during the last Ice Age, having its maximum frequency in the Balkans. It is one of the most numerous haplogroups among European males, being the second largest paternal lineage found on the continent (second only to the R lineage). Its I1 branch is related to Nordic Europe, ancestor of Germanic tribes and Vikings, while I2 is strongly related to Neolithic cultures.

      Y-chromosomal Adam
      160 to 120 thousand years
      A: Africa
      140 to 90 thousand years
      BT: Africa
      85 to 60 thousand years
      CT: Africa
      80 to 60 thousand years
      CF: Leaving Africa
      75 to 60 thousand years
      F: Leaving Africa
      62 to 57 thousand years
      IJ: Haplogroup parent of I and J
      45 to 30 thousand years
      I: Eastern Eurasia
      35 to 28 thousand years
      José's DNA indicates that 58% of his ancestry comes from Africa.
      Africa
      58%
      coast of mine
      39%
      west africa
      9%
      east africa
      5%
      Great Lakes Region (Eastern Bantu Peoples)
      western kenya
      Send
      < 3%
      senegambia
      < 3%
      Mbuti
      < 2%
      Europe
      35%
      Americas
      7%

  • @gamingcorner285
    @gamingcorner285 5 месяцев назад +1

    So it appears that Serbs are the European Indians, native population and founder of first letter and civilization 9.000-8.000 years ago. It seems that somehow Hitler knew this and try to steal history from Serbs claiming that Germans are Aryans. This is fascinating 🇷🇸

  • @josemaurosantos1531
    @josemaurosantos1531 Год назад +1

    Meu aplomb paterno é o ... i . O ..o meu aplomb materno é o ..A....Jardin do Edem is in Africa the difference is the melanin. Those who went to Europe lost their melanin and those who stayed in Africa remained black...I did a DNA test for ancestry. 15.8% Western European and Northern European. French Dutch German. 5.7 %Irish Scottish Welsh British Isles. 16.3%Italian 4%Ukrainian. 32.6% Nigerian. 11.5 %Kenya 6.2 %West Africa 2%mbuti pigmeus Congo 10.9 %Andean Mesoamerican Central and South America. 1% Amazonian indigenous....with this result I can reach the three sons of noé. Here. Sen. Japheth.......the German Dutch French...are descendants of. Askenas. Son of Gomer son of Japheth....the Irish Scots Welsh ..are descendants of. RIFATE..SON of .Gomer. Italians are descendants of. STRIPS and Javan.....the Greeks are descendants of Javan..the Ukrainians are descendants of . magoge and meshech.sons of japheth...indigenous Asians and Orientals. Are descendants of. Togarma.son of Gomer. Africans are descendants of. Here..son of noé......with time, everyone is now misigenated..nobody is pure.....for more research, do your ancestry DNA test....then watch it on .RUclips .observatório 7..ancestors......to confront.....then go to your bible to read..Genesis chapter 1.verses 1 to 32 .......we are not race we are human beings made in the image and likeness of the living God Genesis chapter 1.verses 26:27. 28...then Genesis chapter 9.verses 18:19.....Brasil

  • @moth7457
    @moth7457 Год назад

    2:28

  • @luismiguel174
    @luismiguel174 2 года назад +1

    Indo europesn migra
    mtion

    • @geonomad1
      @geonomad1  2 года назад +1

      I plan to make a video in the future.

  • @dove5591
    @dove5591 Год назад +1

    Anyone who belongs to the I haplogroup Y-chromosome DNA is Genetically and Ethnically a Macedonian. Also the mutation with Blue eyes is found in this Genome.

  • @papazataklaattiranimam
    @papazataklaattiranimam Год назад +2

    Real Indo-European haplo

    • @matrixxx3662
      @matrixxx3662 Год назад +1

      Kurmanji and Zaza have I2a2 as their main haplogeoup. Yet people keep talking J2 and R1a as the main haplogroup for kurds.

  • @josemaurosantos1531
    @josemaurosantos1531 Год назад +1

    🇧🇷
    Paternal Lineage
    The Paternal Lineage test indicates the route taken by your paternal ancestors, from the first man, who gave rise to all human beings alive today, born more than 100,000 years ago in Africa. To discover this route, an analysis of the Y chromosome is carried out, a fragment of DNA that is always passed from father to son, and is present only in biological men. A person's Y chromosome is usually identical to that of their father, their paternal grandfather, that grandfather's father, and so on. But over generations, DNA can mutate, becoming slightly different from its ancestors. Knowing these mutations and analyzing their genetic sequence, it is possible to classify the different Y chromosomes into subtypes, called haplogroups. Each haplogroup had a route and tells a unique story throughout humanity.
    Paternal Lineage
    Your haplogroup is:
    I
    Born between 35 and 25 thousand years ago, haplogroup I represents one of the first peoples of Europe, having several descendant lineages that spread throughout the European territory during the last Ice Age, having its maximum frequency in the Balkans. It is one of the most numerous haplogroups among European males, being the second largest paternal lineage found on the continent (second only to the R lineage). Its I1 branch is related to Nordic Europe, ancestor of Germanic tribes and Vikings, while I2 is strongly related to Neolithic cultures.
    🇧🇷
    Y-chromosomal Adam
    160 to 120 thousand years
    A: Africa
    140 to 90 thousand years
    BT: Africa
    85 to 60 thousand years
    CT: Africa
    80 to 60 thousand years
    CF: Leaving Africa
    75 to 60 thousand years
    F: Leaving Africa
    62 to 57 thousand years
    IJ: Haplogroup parent of I and J
    45 to 30 thousand years
    I: Eastern Eurasia
    35 to 25 thousand years

  • @DinaricUbermensch
    @DinaricUbermensch Год назад

    E-V13 is warrior compared to I2a

    • @papazataklaattiranimam
      @papazataklaattiranimam Год назад

      Kangz haplo

    • @MrBeck-ly1kb
      @MrBeck-ly1kb Год назад +2

      only G and I are original Europeans. EV13 is African. Ev13 came later to Europe.

    • @DinaricUbermensch
      @DinaricUbermensch Год назад +1

      @@MrBeck-ly1kb E1b is african- E-V13 is a subclade of E1b which originated in the southern balkans.

    • @vitocorleone9456
      @vitocorleone9456 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@MrBeck-ly1kbLol even E-V13 is older than G2a in Europe. The only true European Haplogroup is I, deal with it.

    • @sigmaserbian89
      @sigmaserbian89 6 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@DinaricUbermenschSto znaci da ipak ima mesavine Afrike u Albancima?😂

  • @kelleyknaak9051
    @kelleyknaak9051 2 года назад

    😕 p̲r̲o̲m̲o̲s̲m̲

  • @simonsays2774
    @simonsays2774 Год назад

    What a BS😂 Pure Fairytales...

  • @AbuAhmad.i
    @AbuAhmad.i 2 года назад +1

    Weak haplogroup 🤣

    • @matrixxx3662
      @matrixxx3662 Год назад

      Why?

    • @user-dg5vx8li8f
      @user-dg5vx8li8f Год назад +2

      No Vikings would disagree

    • @vitocorleone9456
      @vitocorleone9456 8 месяцев назад

      J1 created to be Slave of I1/I2. Didn't you know that?

    • @MarkTroopers-e3z
      @MarkTroopers-e3z 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@vitocorleone9456 Both i and j are servants of Haplogroup R 🦁👑

    • @vitocorleone9456
      @vitocorleone9456 7 месяцев назад

      @@MarkTroopers-e3z In your dreams. J2 Civilized you.

  • @suntuieu
    @suntuieu Год назад

    your video has no sense... you say in one slide that i2 is older than i1, and other slide that i2 is younger than i1

    • @aetheldread
      @aetheldread Год назад

      He confused I1(M253) TMRCA 4600 with I2(P215) TMRCA 27000 in his charts.