I have a PhD in Near Eastern Languages, including Sumerian, and when this video popped up I watched it with skepticism. But I was very pleasantly surprised. Julie knows her stuff. In a short video she covers the issues of who were the Sumerians, the writing system, and the structure of the language. Very well done!
Magadi is the oldest. we can not translate that language to another by doing a simple word-to-word translation. It needs meaning capturing. For example, if the book says Malaya Raja was born by a blue lotus that means a woman with dark skin.
Its Sumari Asura. They came from the current island of Sri Lanka and they were able to fly using simple mechanism and using large birds. Even Syrian, Asirian means sura - asura. There had been waves of migrations because of a volcano eruption.
Thank you a lot for this amazing video! I know it is been a long time since you posted this video, but here I am appreciating it. I was looking for good content at Google Chrome about the Sumerian civilization and then I searched up about it in RUclips, too. Gladly I found your channel and your amazing video. I'm amazed, really!
Hi Julie - I absolutely love your videos! Although professionally I work as a data scientist, my first love is history. Over the last few years, my primary research interests outside of work have focused on cultures in ancient Mesopotamia and Meso-America. It’s wonderful to gain a better understanding of Sumerian and to hear that language brought to life. Thanks so much for what you do, it’s incredibly valuable. ❤
As a Kurd, I cannot understand why some Kurds think that the Sumerians are ancient Kurds. My friend, the Sumerians were an ancient civilization and they disappeared, there is no one left from them. But the traces of their culture and language remained. Kurds and Assyrians are really stubborn people when it comes to preserving their culture. Today, it is not unusual to encounter traces of Sumer in both Kurdish and Assyrian culture. But this does not mean that they were our ancestors. They are a society that built civilization in these lands and then disappeared. But some features of their language and culture are literally still preserved by the Kurds, Yazidis and Assyrians.
This is surely one of the most thorough discussions of Sumerian for the layperson/amateur linguist. It was easy for me to pause and go over the representations. Thank you.
I can almost bet money that the woman doesnt know anything about the Sumerian language or know to translate it. its just presented images and knowledge put together
Skin tone definitely isn't my first thought when I hear "black headed," hair color is. Like, most of you hair is on your head, so if you have Black hair, you're black headed - not saying that's the actual origin, it just seems more intuitive to me than skin tone lol
This is the southern part of mesopotamia and even today blondes, brunettes and redheads are in extremely short supply so black hair wouldn't be exceptional enough to use as an identifier. To be honest neither would very dark skin!!
As a kid seeing books on Sumerian language in my grandfather’s library I’ve always wanted to learn about Sumerian language . Now that I’m older and can spend time on it I’m very excited to find your page.
Good job Julie. I enjoyed with the video. I want to give you 2 names about Kiengir people aka Sumerian and their mythology which is directly connected to todays's religions and myths. 1- Muazzez İlmiye Çığ(She was a part of researches and translations of Sumerian language as a Sumerolog and archivist.) She never puts a comment and manipulates but gives direct trustful info. 2- Prof. Gönül Tekin (University of California, Turkologist and Turkish Literature Lecturer) When you start to listen her you will get amazed cause she is a walking library. Enjoy!
Excellent! I found myself drawn to your mention of the Ubaid Culture and went to Wiki to explore; which led me to the life and work of Thorkild Jacobsen "7 June 1904 - 2 May 1993) was a renowned Danish historian specializing in Assyriology and Sumerian literature. He was one of the foremost scholars on the ancient Near East." wiki. I was happy to feel pulled toward and to land on his work "The Harps That Once...: Sumerian Poetry in Translation". Have ordered that book and look forward to receiving soon What a fun learning adventure! Thank you! 🙏🏼
I agree would love to see a video 2. If you are interested in learning more about ancient languages check this ruclips.net/p/PLaINFseE0hFoBeXjYaWWM3uCXjTGl_G3E
I've watched many of your language videos! You are amazing in how you are able to be so knowledgeable about so many languages! It's a joy to watch and learn from you! All best in your future language endeavors!
@@deborahswart1718Language , a coin : precious than gold.. And there is no supreme literature on earth except, language ! Language is happiness no matter who you are, learn it and be a part of that people and culture..💙🌴🤎💛
I learned Sanskrit for several years and now, I am taking on the challenge teaching myself Sumerian. Keep up the good work. You are doing a wonderful job!
consider this (from the perspective of the bible...im not a christian or jew what so ever) the fall of the tower of babylon....god gave speak confusion...not many diferent new languiges. whit other words we still speak the same one and only languige broken down true time whit new meanings other forms of speaking out the same words (expecially by sound!!!) the old netherlands (dutch) version is the closed to the sumerian languige....i used it to decifer the languige all over the world and possible even beyond this world (either alien or more of the spirits/angels what ever you want to call them) it is not the letters it is the sound the frequentie....and to qoute jezus from the bible in this case....speaking is silver silence is gold ;)
@@skywankerlukee oh yes they can as the first human couple; one male & one female birthed from the dust/aphar as clay aka adamah in Hebrew and shaped by YHWH by His own "hands" and brought to life through His "breath"/ ru'akh.
Hi Juli, some additional for your topic: "1870 - FRANÇOIS C. LENORMAND, the amazingly talented French linguist, stated: “The Sumerian language, not only in its vocabulary but also in its structure, is a Turanian language.” It is obvious that his work was very thorough because he studied the Hungarian historical phonetic linguistics and he studied the Halotti Beszéd, the Legend of St. Margaret and the Bible of the Hungarian Hussites."
I hold a degree in Linguistics and Languages and I have never seen as beautifully articulated and eloquently stated review❤❤. Outstanding clip! Please make more!!
@CNN @BBC @tbmm @whitehouse @harvard @BogaziciUniversitesi @trtworld www academia edu/118608130/Imology_Thesis_by_Ibrahim_Usta_3_pdf Please read my thesis first, by copying and pasting it then adding two missing dots to reach it. 1. **Missing Part of Herodotus' Histories:** - Why is a significant section of Herodotus' Histories concerning the kinship of Mesopotamians missing? Who removed it, and for what reason? My intuition suggests that this part is hidden at the University of Chicago. If true, this would be a major scandal, reflecting a blatant disregard for research ethics and academic honesty. 2. **Clay Tablets in Hattusa:** - How were clay tablets written in Old Sumerian (circa 2500 BCE) found in Hattusa, the Hittite capital, from a period (circa 1800-1400 BCE) when Babylon was dominant in Mesopotamia, using a Sumerian-Assyrian mixed language? Could it be that many Sumerians migrated to Anatolia after Sargon's conquest of Sumerian city-states? 3. **Turkish DNA Composition:** - When Turkish people undergo DNA tests, they often show a mix of 30-50% Greek or Armenian, 20-30% Kurdish and Persian, 15-20% Semitic (Arab and Jewish), and 20-30% Caucasian (Georgian, Circassian). What proportion of Native American genes appear in the DNA results of white Americans? 4. **Turkish Historical Presence:** - Given that Turks have historical ties since the Sumerians, Hittites, and during the Trojan Wars, how can it be claimed that Turks exterminated these races if their genetic markers are still present in our DNA? Conversely, how did white Americans supposedly integrate Native Americans after taking over the continent? What are the average DNA results for white Americans? 5. **The Term "White House":** - Does the adjective "white" in "White House" imply that the USA is led by a predominantly white Americans' federal system? Doesn't this name suggest that the USA still harbors racist tendencies? --- These questions aim to probe historical, genetic, and sociopolitical issues, demanding transparency and accountability.
so it means your degrees are desperate as your fantasies.. cuz this video is concluded of fictioned indo arian based utopias, that composed with church dreams.. desperate funny bunnies you are :)
I've researched for a very long time the Sumerian and other ancient languages of the Mesopotamian region and can confidently say you did one of the most balanced and informative videos on Sumerians I've ever seen. This video is definitely the best introduction available for those that want to get dive into that topic. I have on big tip: You said that Tamil wasn't seen as similar to Sumerian, but in my experience most linguistic researches on those ancient tongues do not really disclose or try at all discovering the "remnants" of ancient languages in modern ones. I have no idea about Tamil, but am 99% sure that many Sumerian words, or specifically Elamite words, still exist in it till today. Elamites were known to have been ruled at some point by a seafaring dark skinned people that attacked the Sumerian cities. I know from my own researches that Sumerian words and special grammatical features still exist in different Kurdish dialects. Even though the grammar and words are so different, sometimes one can make out full phrases that exist exactly the same in Kurdish. Such as "murani gir" for "He did a heroic deed". Kurdish linguists also created dictionaries proving that at least a thousand words still are used, but aren't famous. So anybody that wants to be a Sumerologist or expert in ancient languages, then my tip is to speak with the local natives and listen to their knowledge.
Well, I guess Sumerians had a BIG influence on every civilization they were in contact with, and those who came later, as Sumerian was the language used by clergy and kings, like Latin. Kurd is very close to Median, which was an active civilization in the later stages of the New Babylonians. About Dravidic, of which Tamili is a branch, it is still today present in eastern Afghanistan form where most precious stones and copper was coming. There are also serious hints that Harrappa and other Indus river civilization were a Dravidian culture, which explain how many words were borrowed from there due to commerces across the Iran coast.
Altaic is the origin of Indo European languages, Sumerians are "Turks", Australian Aboriginals, Native American Indians, Dukha (Turks), EskiMongol, Korean Japanese share an Altay Ancestor. Altay is the origin of the human species to have come out of Africa. There won't be many local natives left in the middle east, most people there don't even have the Asian epicanthic fold anymore and very Indo European now.. Even people think Scythians are Iranic people because they mixed in syria, Iraq and Iran..
@@valeriobenedetti7791 community groups. In my area there is a group studying ladino. A Sephardi group. Ask anyone about their language and you can't get them shut up. Failing that, RUclips videos. That is how I learned Portuguese and Yoruba. Some of the software language programs are incorporating the more obscure languages. I maybe wrong but Rosetta stone may have added Haitian creole. Ancient languages? There are Assyrian and Kurdish community groups. Oh add Mayan and Aztec to the mix. Be careful with Aztec. It has now become the language of the cartels. Hope that helps.
@@lyssanch3096 almost no African words in Garifuna. The escaped slaves mixed with the local carib Indians. The Africans were mostly male. The mothers were Carib or kalinago. Children learn language from the mother. Subsequent generations spoke Carib. The only African word in Garifuna is baba. For father. Another theory is that the Africans spoke many different languages. So the kids used Carib as a common language. If you listen to Garifuna you will hear how the Caribbean sounded before the arrival of Columbus. There are parts of central America where you will hear Garifuna, Maya and misquito spoken alongside each other.
. Tower of Babel dispersion results. Chinese had both same word for God "Di" as in "Shang Di" -"Most High God" and sacrificial system (Emperor sanctifies himself then sanctifies blameless sheep which is slaughtered for sins of the people. The sons of Noah spread out N and NW Japheph. West and SW Ham. Shem some went north. They carried their faith in the one true God with them. Shem-Semitic S=SH ex ashur probably Syria. As they fled north look ar age geography Feghana valley leads to Turin Valley leads to Altai mountains. Lots of people groups in China and Thailand/ Myanmar say they originated at the Altai mountains. Altai means golden in Mongolian. This leads to the Heixi corridor and one of the most fertile places on earth-which they all fought over. The losers went south Hmong, Mon, Lisu, Tai etc.By the way all these speak tonal languages. Altaic languages are agglutinative SOV languages like modern day Turk languages. I don't believe the video is more than 70 % correct nevertheless they are right about the differentiation of Tonal and Agglutinative language origin. The Dene-Yenisarian soup that crossed the ice bridge was both Tonal and Agglutinative. A tribe of them the "New Pearse" had stories of the Creator and the flood and questioned Lewis and Clark for the "Book of God"
I just found your channel. A good surprise, indeed. I love to study languages since I was a kid.The way you contextualize all these ancient languages is amazing. A "cultural and sociological background " makes the study much more empiric and intense. Thanks for sharing this knowledge with us. From now on I will start to watch the earlier videos. Best regards from Brazil.
Actually going from a sound to a sound is really common especially through an intermediary and has happened in Swedish, French, and countless other languages.
I’d say almost every language I know of or heard of. K,g followed by vowels like i and e easily palatalizes. E.g. Peking -> Beijing, and the famous Caesar
comparisons between Latin (and its cognates) and Sumerian are not very apt. Nor is there actually a reason to think up a process by which Kingir became S(h)umer. They are names in very different languages and such can be very different, compare French Allemagne, English Germany, German Deutschland.
Coincidentally I finally, earlier today, watched David Miano 's video on The mysterious origins of the Sumerians on his World of Antiquity channel. Viewers might like to watch it as a companion to this. Thankyou Julie. This was a lovely video
Thank you so much for this introduction to Sumerian. I am a huge fan of the Gilgamesh Epic and have long been interested in this fascinating people from which many of our cultures may have sprung and, in many cases, absolutely DID.
I am a big fan of the Epic it's the oldest known text yet so modern. If you are interested in learning more about ancient languages check this ruclips.net/p/PLaINFseE0hFoBeXjYaWWM3uCXjTGl_G3E
Not just the cultures, but many peoples also partially comes from them. They didnt die out.Their latest apperance is under the name of Hunnic empire and Attila.
lassie made good movies also but that's stretching linguistics I guess. What Lassie? Timmy broke his arm? The smartest dog so far has learned over 1000 words though.
This was really a masterful presentation, and while I am an amateur in the relevant fields,, is plain that Julie does her homework. I can't blame her for not knowing what nobody knows, and I'm left with a hunger to get involved in archaeology in that area. Solving the question of where the Sumerians came from would be a magnificent accomplishment, and finding earlier clues about their language would be just as much of an accomplishment.
Great video as usual ! Nonetheless, I'm surprised to hear you explaining that the diachronic mutation "from k to sh" is very unusual. On the contrary, I love diachronic linguistic and it turn out that evolution from velar to post-alveolar (or retroflex and palatal) consonants is pretty common. This relationship can been seen even in well-known Indo-European languages such as French or Spanish. Thus, the Latin voiceless velar stop consonant ["k"] led to a voiceless post-alveolar fricative ["sh"] in French, even before the back vowel "a" (ex : château < castellum, cheval < cabellus, etc). Symmetrically, Spanish saw what was its voiced post-alveolar fricative ["zh"] to be understood more easily by English speaking people) became a voiceless velar fricative ["ch" as in LoCH Ness], hence the current pronunciation of the spanish letter "j" ("la jota").
You are right, to be honest I don’t know how I didn’t think about it… I’ll do a bit of investigation and maybe add some corrections in the description. Thanks for pointing out!
Hioroglifes 7 mil ans avant Jésus fictif in nubie and plus récente recently nubie peuple in Mésopotamie ( hiéroglyphes nubiens = animaux, faune and flore et cunéiformes the same and stylé)
In 1970s? 80s?, in California, US at college I spoke, to an Iranian student, who knew of, or personally knew, people who claimed to be. from Sumer royal family, who lived in Iran (during Shah's period). Does, that family, still exist ? The probably know everything about Sumer!!! Let us hope that they are still.alive somewhere and see willing to talk and write (and produce own youtube channel ? Even in Farsi it would certainly attract attention, in English it would be a phenomenon, as Mid E and W historians, UFOlogists (Anunaki connection) etc. all would want to ask so many questions !!!
As I read the comments, I can see I am not the target here. I am not particularly bright so am not an academic. I watch these types of videos knowing that many of the finer points are going to be over my head and will probably remain so. I watch these types of videos because I am fascinated by language in general and in other cultures. These videos give me a "big picture" understanding that I am not sure I can put into words, but yet somehow meaningful to me. I said all that just to say thank you.
I think you are mixing up education and intelligence. A curious mind like yours is intelligent. I picked up a little about liguistics from helping a friend with het open university degree but the more technical bits were over my head. I am well educated but more importantly also well read. My wotking class parents were also well read. Reading broadens your vocabulary ( a good dictionary is the best friend here). Despite this I do know how you feel. I watch science lectures and videos. Once they get past the basics a lot of what they say leaves me a bit mogidored. But I understand enough to get the gist and trust that some of it will just soak into my brain like rain on dry earth. ❤
1932 - EDGAR CLEMENT, German linguist, was so impressed by the musicality of the language that he learned Hungarian. According to him, the Hungarian language had a magical strength, which reflected a deep spirituality and only the highest ranking languages, especially the old classical languages could match up to it. 1939 - GÉZA BÁRCZY, member of the Hungarian Academy of Science, discovered the 5000 year-old Sumerian suffixes and proved that they were identical to the Hungarian suffixes. 1940 - Sir LEONARD WOOLLEY, English archeologist and linguist, excavated the Sumerian city, Ur of the Chaldees. He found 400,000 clay tablets, which were covered with linguistic material. He made a glossary and deciphered a large number of texts for the Institutum Biblicum in Rome, among them a six volume Sumerisches Lexicon, in which he deciphered 4,000 words.
National Geographic published a book in the eighties called "Splendors of the Past". In there was a reference to Sumer language as "it is similar to Turkish and Hungarian but otherwise unrelated." Hm.
Absolutely fascinating. I am a simple lay person with a fascination for languages. I really speak nothing but American English, but your presentation and understanding of such an ancient language held me transfixed throughout your entire production. I could sit and listen to you for hours every day.
I recently read a hypothesis that only largely monosyllabic languages could get the idea of writing off the ground because the rebus principle is easier for such languages, and that principle is essential to get enough "difficult" words depicted to get started with sufficiently full speech transcription
Egyptian & Mesoamerican languages kinda throws a wrench into that hypothesis though. There are enough major exceptions that I'm not sure I completely buy that.
@@Afrologist The hypothesizer said Mayan was largely monosyllabic. And even though hieroglyphs and cuneiform are visually dissimilar, the hypothesizer (and me) finds it incredulous that the _idea_ of writing itself would spring up independently in such close proximity among people who interacted all the time. ("The hypothesizer" is Peter T Daniels)
@@muskyoxes Writing was originally symbolic & not necessarily any real reflection phonemically of what was being visually presented to the reader. Logographic systems seem to be among the oldest forms of writing we find; however, syllabic writing systems only emerge once sound associations are made to specific & widely recognizable characters. The idea that representing sheep with a crude but passable sketch of a sheep is somehow correlated with monosyllabism smells kinda funny to me.
@@Afrologist It's the next step that's crucial. Using the sheep symbol for concepts related to sheep but pronounced differently, and using the sheep symbol for words pronounced the same but meaning something entirely different. It's the latter that is argued to be aided by monosyllabic language
Sincere thanks and praise for your beautiful presentation of the history of the Summians and the theories that have been presented regarding their origin. I am writing an opinion as a professor of the cuneiform writings at the Faculty of Archeology of the University of Kufa. I have worked for more than twenty years in the field of archaeological work in the Iraqi General Authority for Antiquities and Heritage. I died during my studies and my knowledge of the results of excavations. Scientific archeology I can confirm that the Sumerians were the ones who started civilization in northern Iraq. They painted and expressed their fear of animals on the walls of caves. They discovered agriculture. They domesticated animals and trimmed stones. Because of the climatic conditions and their changes, they arrived in southern Iraq, bringing with them the slave civilization that was invented. In the north of Iraq, especially since the pottery of slaves was discovered in all regions of Iraq from north to south, this is first and second, the movement of the sons of Iraq from north to south due to the deterioration of living conditions, and the current situation confirms this.. Greetings to fantastic what was presented through this wonderful video .. Prof. Dr. Fatima Abbas Salman
On top of the dictionaries the Akkadians used to teach their scribes Sumerian, there are a fair number of loan words from Sumerian in the language, which helped with piecing the language together considering we have been replicating it from being only able to use second hand sources. Languages affect each other, and I wouldn't be surprised if a fair number of words from Sumerian show signs of having to be fit into the language's etymology from other ones. I do find it interesting that you bring up the theory that the Sumerians may not have been the first culture to develop writing, merely the first one to leave an extensive written record. Which, actually wouldn't be surprising. There are a number of proto-writing systems that predate them, after all. The Ubaid people, who are considered to be the ones first there, probably got it started, but the Sumerians refined it. Again, nothing that actually contradicts history, the Sumerians are liable to retain the credit simply because writing figured so heavily among them.
I watched this not knowing what to expect. I thoroughly enjoyed this presentation and your expertise. Your Bengal at the end was why I subscribed. I had a Bengal years ago that I raised from a kitten. His name was Genghis Khat (Genghis for short). He was 20% Asian spotted leopard and he was my best friend. I have never shared my life with a more intelligent, graceful, athletic or amazing animal in my life. He had a penchant for language, too, and I had to be careful what I said around him (for instance, he focused on the 'k' sound in the word 'milk', but he would also hear the word 'fuck' as 'milk', which made for some confusing and memorable moments). He lived to be 18 years old and remains as one of the finest souls I have ever known.
Love this video and look forward to watching more like this (along with more words for the algo. Worth it.) Thanks for making this. Very engaging while at the same time being very informative.
I am Assyrian and we speak Aramaic but some of us still know how to read, write and speak Sumerian. Our flag has the Star of Shamash on it, its Sumerian deity exactly as shown on 1:00 in the middle of the tablet, but we use white, blue and red colors because thats what Sumerians painted interior of their palaces.
@@aramokurdo They can claim all they want but its not true. Thats why they attempted the genocide in 1915 to steal indigenous people land and to claim the culture as their own. You talking to an Assyrian not a westerner who doesnt know history of middle east. We know everything they did, and everything you Kurds did too.
@@eurostar0711 You are Arab Semites and not Sumerians who look like Dravidians and speak an agglutinative language. First among the Sumerians there were other ethnic groups that did not belong to their group.
Hi Julie, Your question at 1:38 as to how a 'K' becomes an 'Sh' (or 'Ch') is easy to answer. A very typical and widely practiced pronunciation in many countries in this region (most prominent in Iraq, Jordan, Palestine, and parts of Syria) is to pronounce a 'K' or 'C' as an 'Sh' or 'Ch'. Thus, Canada is pronounced Chanada or Shanada (Tshanada) and Kuwait is pronounced Chuwait or Shuwait (Tshuwait), although it is usually closer to the hard sound of 'Ch' rather than a flat soft 'Sh'. Keefak (which means How are You?) is pronounced Cheefak. More accurately, it is pronounced like a hard 'Ch', as Tcheefak. The Tch here comes out somewhat like an 'Sh'. I speak many of these languages, and accents. I hope this helps.
Hi Jamal. You've explained that it is common, but you haven't actually answered WHY there was a shift in pronunciation. As she said, it's very unusual. So, do you have any idea as to WHY these pronunciations changed?
@@tigermunky Hi Li, I only have a guess, as I am not an expert. I speak those accents, but haven’t studied them. And, I sincerely believe that Julie, and probably yourself, are more skilled to come up with a more scientific answer. My guess is that there was a change in demographics which lead to the prevalence of a population that used Sh/Tch/Ch instead of a C/K. It would be similar to the story of the word Ebriq (kettle), which ends with a Q in Arabic. Q is one of the hardest phonetics and most difficult to master for non-Arabic natives. Therefore, when the Turks ruled the region and took the word Ebriq, they changed the pronunciation of that Q to a K, as they found it difficult to pronounce the word with the original Q. The Turkish alphabets contain no Q, and you can see that it goes from LMNOP straight to RST. In our example, my guess is that it was initially practiced as a C/K by some tribe/s which used the C/K pronunciation, but another population/tribe that used the Sh/Tch/Ch pronunciation came into the limelight and influenced all pronunciation. We have seen this occurring in history many times over and over again. This is just a wild guess, based on no science or history that I can refer to. By the way, I once read that this very same Ebrik (Brik) word is what was later taken by Europe and ultimately became barracks in English. I don’t know how correct this barracks claim is, though it is somewhat interesting to delve into. The roots of languages, and their so many accents, are indeed perplexing. I follow the subject as a mere interest, surely not as a specialty.
@@jamalsaleh6551 I love your answer. ❤ It certainly sounds logical enough. I mean, I have no idea either (which is why I asked if you could explain), but I think shifting populations makes sense. Thanks for taking the time to reply.
Thank you for this and your other similar videos. I love learning about our history, language, religions, structures and more. We have lost so much through the years. What would our collective memory look like had we not erased or lost so much over the millenium. Thank you for studying these most important details and bringing them back to life. I love your love for history. 😊
It's great to see that Juli has discovered the Iron Law of RUclips, which is known to apply throughout the galaxy. This law is even more powerful than the "You Will Recieve a Copyright Strike for any Conceivable Reason" law. It states: "any video, from any creator, on any topic, at any time is automatically improved with the addition of a cat." The effect is further enhanced if said cat is beautiful, as in this case. Kitty should be a guest star imo.
@@piked261 so ... If they are Israelites, anyone with Igbo ancestry genetically will also be Israelites. African Americans have significant Igbo ancestry
I have been a longtime student of Near Eastern history and culture, and I was quite blown away by the fact that you were able to pack so much factual information in such a short video. Often, videos by RUclips creators leave me disappointed and sometimes angry at their miscomprehension and sometimes misrepresentation of history. You did none of that! I am impressed, and you have a new subscriber!
I remember when I first became interested in the Mesopotamian languages. I was maybe 10 and saw this Akkadian or Babylonian writing in the background scenery of a video game I was playing and I remember thinking "that language looks pretty metal". Since then I've been interested in languages and history. Thanks for the vid.
@@mitchellhayward6492 Ur CONFUSED about Ur history.. Mesopotamia was An African COLONY..Ur History CRO MAGNON Starts in the NORTHERN HEMISPHERE 😳 Ural Mountains fringes of SIBERIA. Remember when Africans came into Europe 😏 There was Nobody there.The QUESTION then Becomes..Where Do white people come from😳
Interpreting "black headed people" as beeing of African descendant, is a bit of a stretch. We immigrants of middle eastern origin in germany call ourselves "Schwarzköpfe" which literally translates to black headed people. It derived from the black hair most of us have, comparatively speaking. So according to this interpretations we all would be of African origin. One has to be careful with this kind of deduction.
I was going to say the exact same thing. I have no idea why black headed was never even mentioned as meaning having black hair. That was literally the first thing that came to my mind.
@@achilleuspetreas3828 ung sang ngigga ( black haired people) was a collective term for all in the indigenous people on earth made in the image of UTU father of the black haired, of course this isn't mentioned because Europeans divided the black haired by skin color, hair texture, and phenotype. Today this group is known as the Melanic variety of mankind all individuals with black hair which is 97% of the world population even this is known in the Bible black hair is clean, yellow hair unclean the ung sang ngigga ( black haired) distinguished themselves from the Namrutum ( blonde haired slaves) anciently hair color was a factor of divine or inferior status
@@zoranbeader6441 not only Sumer but the world UTU is the father of the black haired) ung sang ngigga ( black haired people) are the indigenous population on earth, the Melanic variety of mankind which is 97% of the world population, Europeans knew this so they divided the black haired by skin color, hair texture and phenotype etc, this was never the case anciently
I finally became a patron. Wanted to do it since long...really not much at all, the minimun basically since I am not working. But needed to support your exceptionally enlightening and interesting dedication to such a subject so connected subtly to Human evolution, Anthropology, psychology and things like that. Plus, I just love how evidently cultured and sophisticated you are, aside from being exceptionally attractive or beautiful also, and that with all my owed respect.
"Aratta" is the name given, long, long ago, to the region around and including the mountains of Ararat. Down from the difficult terrain of the mountains you'll find remnants of the civilization here such as Göbekli Tepe, Karahan Tepe, Nevalı Çori, Hamzan Tepe, Karahan Tepe, Harbetsuvan Tepesi, Sefer Tepe, and Taslı Tepe, among others, many of which remain undiscovered.
Aratta is one of the names given to kingdom of Urartu. Aratta or Ararat is mentioned in the Epic Poem of Gilgamesh and Enkidu as the place" where gods convene to decide the future of mankind"
@@robertblanc7578 thats not true, they differentiate from aryan cultures so many ways; so they dont like any other surrending cultures, but they also similar to them.
Im interested in Sino-Tibetan language Family. Despite it is the second biggest language family and has been studied for many years, it still has many myths. 1. How does each Sino-Tibetan language related ? 2. Where is the urheimat, or where did it come from? 3. Classification problem 4. When did Proto ST split into Proto Sinitic and Proto Tibeto Burman?
See my giant realistic map of the Far East for Age of Empires 2. The other day, I used Spain to help them against the Turksih invasion. The Turks got as far as Xian. From Luzón, I was allowed into China to build an army and take Tibet and Afghanistan from the enemy. Meanwhile, the Chinese genocided Korea and Mongolia. Fun times.
I feel like I’m back in college, in the most pleasant way, when I listen and watch your videos. Your delivery and articulation are superb. Furthermore, I appreciate how you incorporate more alternative viewpoints, non orthodox speculations and fascinating, recent opinions. Please keep up this magnificent and enlightening work. You are appreciated.
July, I am no linguist so I am totally unqualified to comment this but was totally fascinated, your capacity for synthesis is great and I love the fact you dress differentyl for each video according to the language you are introducing, so creative I love interactive history! Now I am asking you a question i which may be very dumb or not but I won't know until I have done sufficient research on it. I am studying the Tarim mummies and those nomadic confederations in the territory of today Xinjang, that’s just above Tibet. I was watching this video as I wondered if they could provide a missing link between such wide distances, I also thought the same, how curious are some words similarties (Sky, Tien) it could not be a coincidence. The “Caucasian” looking mummies, whose oldest samples were ANE, did travel southwards in several directions, including Bactria and Mesopotamia. There are several cultural and symbolic features in their mysteric and secret cult-related traditions which find parallel in several eastern (e.g. Hinduism) and middle eastern’s, including the spiral dances, their solar and lunar and celestial worship too. Could there be a link between these peoples? I am not far enough in my research to say but would be curious to know what you think.
I am a scholar of ancient Near Eastern (Middle Eastern) history and languages. I like your video and your presentation style. Not being pedantic by nature, I don't like to correct others. However, there is one (and only one) glaring error in your lecture. When you say that the latest specimen of Sumerian dates to 100 B.C.E...it was actually last used in the region ca. 100 A.D or C.E (NOT 100 B.C.E.). BUT ONCE AGAIN, the remainder of your presentation is spot on...Kudos!
@hiOOxkr magkis Arabs even didnt exist at the time... Moreover, Arabian ancestor nation was the Egyptian, not the Sumerian, they didnt like each other.
Hi, I just wanted to say how much I love all your videos, and even my sister, who is not as generally interested in linguistics as I am, also really enjoys your videos too! I was also interested in what you had to say about the origins of the Sumerian language, in that it seemed so different to its neighbours. The Persian/Arabian Gulf was below sea level until only a few thousand years before the arrival of the Ubaid culture and then Sumeria. Because, at that time, much of the Sahara and Middle East would have been somewhat cooler, the Gulf region would have also been very fertile and may have supported a large population - when this region flooded, a lot of its inhabitants would have fled north into what became Mesopotamia.
Thank you so much. I am fascinated by Sumerian culture and have been reading and reflecting on their stories of Innana and Erishkegal. Following you now!
I am Assyrian from (Iraq- Mesopotamia) I am very proud of coming from this part of the world that rich of history of first writing, school, libraries, wheels, frist people who divided the time, the year, very good in math, astronomy and agriculture and so on. We have a statement that say: " the first letter start here" its mean in Iraq- Mesopotamia. I hope my country's history appears and been knowing by every human being. Thank you for this short video beautiful lady, thanks for your time of reading and researching. ❤❤
I said this part of the world, I didn't say Assyrian did all of that, "by the way I don't know why the world scared of Assyrian name to come forward"?!!!!!.
There are some theories, that the Sumarian language has connection with the Hungarian language. I wouldn’t like to go into the details of pros and cons of the argument, but two interesting things I would like to mention: The names of many Sumarian towns has meaning in Hungarian and even there are some towns or villages or places in Hungary today with the same (or very similar) names. The Sumarians only we call Sumarians, but they called themself Maghars. And the Hungarian call themself Magyars.
An entire Sumerian literature about the supreme Goddess Inanna, including 3 poems by Enheduanna (priestess, daughter of Sargon the Great, and earliest named author) exists. Flood story, Eden, and Her decent to the underworld werein she is stripped, beaten, killed, hung on a peg to rot, miraculously revived, and returned to earth transformed.
Gee, something about that story sounds so familiar especially that part about someone dying and reviving but for christsakes I can't remember the name 🤔
Inanna is not the supreme goddess of Sumerian religion and she doesn't appear in any flood story - she appears in the Gilgamesh epic but in a different section. Eden might be related to a Sumerian word for steppe but it doesn't appear in the sense of paradise.
Interesting! Can you please highlight on my Edo language, precisely the Bini language from Benin-City, Edo state, Nigeria. We were once the Ancient Benin Empire. Our Bronze and Brass artworks are famous. Thank you! 🙏🇳🇬
Yes, saw your amazing nations's ancient metal works highlighted recently. An interesting story, a hard nut to crack for the colonialists because of the strong unity of the small kingdom used to defending itself well over centuries through superior tekne [technique=art in Ancient Greek]!
@Eno Media Look. You Africans have got stuff to be proud of. You don't need to make up lies. The Sumerians were not African. They were in the Middle East.
I'm 4,000 years old and I forgot how to speak Sumerian because there was nobody else to talk to for so long, I hope this lady comes over for coffee or something 🤔😂
You might want to study the connection between Sumerian and Hungarian. Shared vocabulary is currently 3000+ words long. Some basic words are the same in both languages (like nap meaning sun orIztenIsten meaning God or Ur meaning Lord). 51 out of 54 grammar rules are shared by both languages. Interesting connection...
@@skoodledoo Like most people in the world. Few people know that it was Hungarian linguists that noticed it and helped to decipher the Sumerian language. Funny thing is that even Sumer in Hungarian is pronounced exactly the same as in Sumerian. But if you study the history you will learn that when Semitic people conquered Sumer from the North, some Sumerians migrated to the Central Asia and became Scythians and took their language with them. They later were renamed Huns, but they kept the same lanugage and Hungarians (Magyars) descended directly from Huns and also got the same language. Thus the modern Hungarian is a direct evolution of the Sumerian language. This is the reason so many basic words and grammar are shared between Sumerian and Hungarian.
@@skoodledoo Sure. Check this quote: 1870 - ARCHIBALD SAYCE, Professor of Oriental Studies in Oxford, deciphered the first Sumerian one language text and gave a linguistic analysis of the language. He used comparative linguistics to study different branches of the language. In the course of his research, he examined the relationship of the languages of the entire Turanian language family with the Sumerian language. He found the closest relationship to Sumerian in the Hungarian and Basque languages. He went to Hungary to learn the Hungarian language and also found Hungarian to be the most useful language to read the Sumerian language. So, as you see, it's not even a new idea, but scholars of the past came up with it. In fact, Hungarian was used by the international linguists to decipher Sumerian language, since it is so similar phonetically, grammatically and in vocabulary. You can real a whole list of quotes from scholars of the past 150 years who basically confirm this similarity. I am just a messenger of this idea and I am on even Hungarian. Link: aleximreh.wordpress.com/2015/10/05/sumerian-language-hungarian-language/ You can also see this YT video to see how Hungarian is related to Hunnic, Scythian, Gaelic and Sumerian languages with some examples. ruclips.net/video/6vq3wOgDb2s/видео.html
@SPQSpartacus Yeah, cause there is a lot of similarities in all IE languages due to the fact they all come from 1 nostratic language. As for the Finish, it separated from Hungarian, or rather Scythian back 3600 years ago, but there are still many similar words with Hungarian, more with Ancient Hungarian. Based om my research over the past 5 years Hungarian is the closest to the original European language spoken before the end of the Ice Age. Basically, the core vocabulary is unchanged, that's why these basic words are the same as Sumerian. On the side note, Hungarian changed very little over 1000 years. I can take Hungarian chronicle from 12th century and understand it with modern Hungarian. Heck, you can even take modern carved script and translate the Hunnic grave inscriptions from 4th century and still get perfectly understandable Hungarian words. Same for the few Scythian texts we have. Take the same script and you get some consonants, provide modern Hiungarian vowels and you get Hungarian words. It is quite amazing that this particular language did not change much over the past 2000+ years.
Great stuff. I was trained in academic philosophy. I am currently researching 5thC Byzantium, the origins of Western jurisprudence, and generally find the physical struture of languages fascinating. Pictorial languages rock. I love your video.
ruclips.net/video/oM-l318gnB8/видео.html Crusader inquisition mentality, I admire your ignorance. How do you not know the world's number 1 Sumerologist, Muazzez İlmiye Çığ? How can you not know? The languages of the Sumerians belong to the Proto-Turkish language family. Sumerians are Proto-Turkish. Words in Sumerian, Etruscan, Scythian and Ancient Egyptian languages and dialects are the same or similar to thousands of words used in Native American languages. Today, it is stated that the origins of these words are Persian, Hebrew or Latin. How do words that Native Americans have used for thousands of years become Hebrew, Latin, Scottish, Irish or Persian? The answer to this question is very simple. Sumerians, Scythians and Etruscans transferred their languages and cultures to their geography. Sumerians gave many words to Hebrew, Arabic and Persian. Etruscans gave many words to Latin. Scythians (Scythians=Sakas= Saxons) transferred many words to Western Europe and the Scottish archipelago. Native American languages, Scythian, Sumerian and Etruscan languages are in the PROTO-TURKISH language group. For this reason, many words are the same or have great similarities between Native American languages, European languages and Middle Eastern languages. Since the languages of these states are in the proto-Turkic language group, these nations are Proto-Turkish. You can reach results very easily with analytical thinking.
Yes. This culture has a lot to do with Hungarian one. Actually, the oldest names have all a meaning in Hungarian language. And, if you want to find the roots of Ubaid civilizitation, just see the map of Carpathian basin. The firts towns were discovered by archeologist Zsófia Torma in 19th century in Tordos. 🇭🇺
Julija I love your channel! I have to admit that my knowledge of Sumerian language is limited to "LUGAL" ("King") and "NINDA" ("Bread"), and this is all because of my interest in Nesili, the language of the Hittites. Have you done a video on Nesili yet?
Fun fact: you can dissect "LUGAL" even further and add two new words to your vocabulary: LU (man) and GAL (great). It's written with those signs, so literally it means great man :)
Sincere thanks and praise for your beautiful presentation of the history of the Summians and the theories that have been presented regarding their origin. I am writing an opinion as a professor of the cuneiform writings at the Faculty of Archeology of the University of Kufa. I have worked for more than twenty years in the field of archaeological work in the Iraqi General Authority for Antiquities and Heritage. I died during my studies and my knowledge of the results of excavations. Scientific archeology I can confirm that the Sumerians were the ones who started civilization in northern Iraq. They painted and expressed their fear of animals on the walls of caves. They discovered agriculture. They domesticated animals and trimmed stones. Because of the climatic conditions and their changes, they arrived in southern Iraq, bringing with them the slave civilization that was invented. In the north of Iraq, especially since the pottery of slaves was discovered in all regions of Iraq from north to south, this is first and second, the movement of the sons of Iraq from north to south due to the deterioration of living conditions, and the current situation confirms this.. Greetings to nice what was presented through this wonderful video .. Prof. Dr. Fatima Abbas Salman
Sir Leonard Woolley, an archaeology professor, who spent his entire researcher’s life (close to 60 years) with Mesopotamian excavations, said: "Since 1939 I keep requesting and urging the Hungarian Academy of Sciences to send me a Hungarian linguist. The Sumerian language - despite its 7,000 years of history - shows amazing similarities with the modern Hungarian language. Based on my researches, I know for a fact that - for example, 56 of the specialty of the Sumerian grammar shows 53 stunning parity with the contemporary Hungarian language. The Turkish language is the second closest language to the Sumerian, and there are 34 similarities found with the foregoing. While the Turkish stands on "nephew" degree in terms of similarity with the Sumerian, we can say that the Hungarian is the SIMILAR and the direct descendant of the Sumerian language. More than 6,000 basic Sumerian root words matching up with Hungarian words. " Mind you, Professor Sir Leonard Woolley later came to Budapest, where he learned the Hungarian language privately, because the Hungarian Academy of Sciences never supported and appreciated his efforts. As a matter of fact, the Institute denounced him, saying, " We will never confirm that the Hungarian language have anything to do with the Sumerian.”
My father grew up in an area of Western PA where everyone in the area spoke a mixture of Slavic languages. He spoke Ukrainian, Russian, Slavic, etc. He always said that one of the hardest to learn was Hungarian. So, he wasn't very verbal in Hungarian.
*Beny:* _"..., the Institute denounced him, saying, " We will never confirm ...'"_ How _awful!_ How arrogant and short sighted to have no interest in their roots.
@@KenJackson_US The official Hungarian bodies have denied it for 150 years. The Japanese have not understood the Hungarian mentality for at least 100 years, the Romanians and the Indo-Europeans rub their hands in joy, archaeogenetics and archeology tell the truth...
@@KenJackson_US "Grover S. Krantz: Magyarság (Hungarians), the founding people of Europe's culture Grover S. Krantz (1931-2002), a world-renowned American anthropologist and professor at Washington State University, recognizes in his work "The Geographical Development of European Languages" that Hungarians, who have been treated as Europe's stepchildren until now, are the founders of Europe's culture. According to him, the u.n. "Indo-European languages" developed very late in Europe. That is why 30% of their vocabulary is not of "Indo-European" origin, and there are no "Indo-European" river names on the early maps of Europe. We are more interested in the following sentence: "...so the Greek language was formed in its current location in 6500 BC, and the Celtic language in Ireland in 3500 BC. The antiquity of the Hungarian language in the Carpathian Basin is similarly surprising; I find that its origins lead to the Mesolithic, preceding the Stone Age." Furthermore: "At least on one important point, the theory of people's migration is the opposite of the previous theorem. It is generally believed that the Hungarians of the Urals lived in the 9th century. century, they moved into the Carpathian basin from an eastern area. I find that all groups speaking the Uralic language spread from Hungary, in a much earlier age, in the opposite direction." Grover S. Krantz, The Geographical Formation of European Languages. (Ősi Örökségünk Alapítvány, Budapest, 2000) Original title and publisher of the work: Geographical Development of European Languages Peter Lang Publishing Inc. New York 1988. Translated by: Imre Kálmán" This book has not been refuted by anyone since 1988, rather everyone has remained silent. In recent years, archaeogenetics has confirmed that Krantz's theory is correct! ruclips.net/video/jWi1vgG8-sI/видео.html ruclips.net/video/gN_2Ok1gnLo/видео.html
@@benyovszkyistvan408: _"...so the Greek language was formed in its current location in 6500 BC, ..."_ The _"current location"_ (Greece?) didn't exist in 6500 BC. And Greek certainly didn't exist before at least Sumer in the early third millennium BC.
Hi Juli, I just have discovered your channel and I LOVE it. Thank you for the tons of hours of research implied in your videos! Awesome synthesis of topics, you can get a general picture of a language in just 10 minutes or so, congrats! I would love you to make a video about Hungarian language. I am from Argentina, but my parents emigrated from Hungary after WWII. That´s why my mother tongue is Hungarian, and in Argentina we speak Spanish, so you may imagine that when I attended school for the first time, I realized the huge difference between these languages. I think that, as in the case of many other agglutinative languages, it is very hard to learn Hungarian as a second language. One of the most difficult subjects to explain to a non Hungarian speaking person is the 18 grammar cases of the Hungarian language. I use them properly, but I cannot explain its tules, that´s why it would be awesome that you make that video and present this language that I love, but lately rarely speak here in Argentina!!! Thank you very muy again, really enjoyed your work!!!
Thank you 🙏🏻 I’m very pleased you enjoy my videos! As for Hungarian, well, I would like to make videos on every language out there so one day it’s gonna be the turn of Hungarian. I don’t know when though
@@JuLingo Hi Greetings enjoy your channel on Sumerian language.What I would like to know if modernday Iraqis have Sumerian names among them ancient that is with Arabic surnames e.g. Tiamat Ally (Dragon Lady),Marduk Mohammed,Enki Safraz,Enlil Baksh or some other name I assume.Well you can't call a person Mr. or Mrs. Pazuzu because you might be insulting them however Pazuzu is the head demon of Sumerian Mythology.And Anzu if anyone is named after the birdman Anzu the deity with the dreadlocks.Just inquiring.
Gabor Gyerek May I suggest please read my comment which is backed up by evidence that the Hungarian language does have it's roots from the Sumerian language.
Hi, @@hunguy3280! Thank you for your input. I have grown up listening to my grand parents´ stories about the link between Sumerian and Hungarian... I am not an expert in linguistics but it always seemed to me an exaggeration of Hungarian pride (my grandfather even stated that Tutankhamun spoke in Hungarian)... I may be wrong, but I do not see so much similarities between the languages, although it would be awesome for Hungarians!
@@JuLingo 1857 - MÁTYÁS FLÓRIÁN, linguist and a member of the Hungarian Academy of Science, who was in correspondence with OPPERT, stated: “I gained from Oppert the treasure of the words (Sumerian) and called his attention to the fact that they resembled the words of the ancient Hungarian language.” 1860 - JULES OPPERT emphasized the relationship of the Sumerian and Hungarian languages. 1860 - The German linguists and professors at the Congress of Kiel announced that the only correct name for Mesopotamia’s Turanian ancient populace was “Sumerian”. 1870 - ARCHIBALD SAYCE, Professor of Oriental Studies in Oxford, deciphered the first Sumerian one language text and gave a linguistic analysis of the language. He used comparative linguistics to study different branches of the language. In the course of his research, he examined the relationship of the languages of the entire Turanian language family with the Sumerian language. He found the closest relationship to Sumerian in the Hungarian and Basque languages. He went to Hungary to learn the Hungarian language and also found Hungarian to be the most useful language to read the Sumerian language.
@@JuLingo I thought that you addressed this issue in your clip: We know (something about) Sumerian pronunciation via the Akkadian primers / dictionaries. Loved your video, by the way!
@@JuLingo It's not all guesswork. 1. Sometimes we have detailed descriptions of the pronunciation of an ancient language written by its native speakers as with Sanskrit, Ancient Greek and Latin. 2. Sometimes, we are given non-technical comments as with Cicero's comment that the final -S in Vulgar Latin had become a barely audible aspiration or his comment about a court of law laughing at a Greek witness because of his inability to pronounce an F. 3. Sometimes we have internal evidence, e.g. a closed syllable before the Greek word idenai (to know) was always heavy, hinting at the loss of an initial consonant. The word was widenai, cognate with English "wit", Latin "videre", Sanskrit "vid". 4. The form that a word takes in related languages. (See 3.) 5. Poetic usage can help. It can be very revealing to observe which words rhyme with each other or alliterate with each other. 6. The way that sounds have evolved in the daughter languages or other closely related modern languages. 7. Dictionaries and lists of difficult words, such as those made by the Akkadians for the Sumerian language. 8. And sometimes we just have to make an educated guess.
except we don't know the Akkadian pronunciation either. And even Sanskrit, ancient Greek and Latin we're to some extent guessing how it really sounded. Just think of US vs UK English, you couldn't reconstruct that just from writing.
@@HaraldinChina The Sanskrit and Ancient Greek grammarians left detailed descriptions of the sounds of their languages. In such cases and with Latin, if we could travel back in time, we would be able to converse quite well with native speaker. With Akkadian we are less sure of minute details but we would be able to make ourselves understood. Sumerian is a worst case scenario but we at least have some idea of how it sounded. You say, "Just think of US vs UK English, you couldn't reconstruct that just from writing." This is a hypothetical and very unreal scenario. English orthography can be very misleading but not all of the time. We would also have the evidence of all of the English words borrowed by other languages. These alone would allow us to reconstruct the pronunciation of many words quite accurately.
1873 - LENORMAND formulated the first Sumerian Grammar and also made a thorough comparative study of the grammar and vocabulary of the Ural-Altaic languages. By so doing, he proved the relationship between the Ural-Altaic languages and Sumerian. 1873 - EDOUARD SAYOUS, a French historian proved the linguistic comparisons of Lenormand. In 1869 and 1896, he was in Hungary and he learned Hungarian. In acknowledgement of his work, he was made a member of the Hungarian Kisfaludy Literary Guild. 1875 - FRANÇOIS C. LENORMAND strongly advocated that the language that discovered writing was most closely related to Hungarian. Therefore he traveled again to Hungary to learn the language more thoroughly. In his book “The Ancient Language of the Chaldeans and the Turanian Languages” from phonetics to the noun suffixes, almost entirely relying on the logic and pronunciation of the Hungarian language, he continued his research into the comparison between the Sumerian and the Turanian languages. He found that the Sumerian phonetic rules were based on the Hungarian. 1875 - HEINRICH GELZER, a Swiss linguist, in an article entitled: Das Ausland, stated that the Sumerian noun and verb suffixes were identical to those of the Turanian languages.
"black head" means black hair. Koreans to this day, when we say we are getting a haircut, it literally says "we are cutting head". This is pretty consistent for most Altaic language groups, which excludes the Chinese. Sumerians are from the Pamir Mountains. Modern day Kazakhstan's capital Astana have the same astrological based city planning equal to Egypt to Mesopotamia.
11:05 That’s interesting! It looks like “lugal” which means “king” is made from “lu” which means “person” and “gal” which means “great!” So king would literally be “great person!”
Yup! It should probably be noted that "Lugal" isn't quite as simple as the word "King" in English, and actually indicates a king who doesn't possess holy power over the city, contrasted to God-Kings, who were more common earlier in the history of Mesopotamia.
@@Jerrel.A Yes, we all know that. But acting out somebody else is not your own self. Hence all actors are cheats. The only legitimate acting in the past was acting out the role of the Sun and Earth, like in folk dancing, or making sacrifice at Solstice turning points during the year. The Greco-Latin world became more and more profane and dumb. And it got worse today.
Proto-Uralic (Finno-Ugric) is missing in the Human Language Families map. I have seen articles about the relations between Proto-Uralic and Sumerian languages. Like the use of suffixes and simular words. But I have not digged any deeper in to this. But maybe somebody that read this comment has. Also maybe known if this could be true or not.
Turkish is NOT a Finno- Ugric lanquage. Native Finnish speaking - one of the Finno-Ugric lanquages - Finnish Christian woman, Miss Marjaana Nivala, from Finland, the land of my ancestors.
I dont care much with linguisticism, but as far as I know, there was only 1 nation which claimed themselves the descendants of the builders of the tower of Babylon in the )th century, when nobody else no know nothing about the sumers, and the Babilonians are always the evil side in the bible, so, its not that attractive to a Christian nation to be a descendant of the evils XD
Спасибо за материал про такой интересный язык! (правда, я не могла не заметить одну деталь: персы заимствовали не клинопись, а саму идею клинописи - первое письмо персов уже было буквенно-слоговым, и никаких иероглифов)
Это не так. И у аккадцев, и у хеттов и персов была письменная система схожая с современной японской. Это когда одновременно используют и иероглифы (для записи корней) и слоговые знаки (для записи приставок и окончаний). Собственно и в самом шумерском применялись слоговые знаки для глагольных аффиксов и служебных слов. В персидском "иероглифов" было меньше всего да, но они были. Нпр, для слова царь 𐏋"кшаятья" (санскр. кшатрия), которое позже превратится в "шох", "шах".
собираюсь уходить в лес от цифрового концлагерного мира будущего, где нет более жизни для нормальных людей, где нет свободы, где за людей всё решает искусственный интеллект, как жить, сколько жить, что кушать, что пить, сколько спать, и чем дышать. в лесу мне понадобится клинопись, т.к. её проще всего будет наносить на камни и главное вырезать на деревьях. но для этого мне ещё над подумать над универсальным суперлегким в усвоении языком и так чтобы он был идеален как с точки зрения золотого сечения и других универсальных математических принципов, так и с точки зрения совпадения звучания слов с как можно большим числом ныне существующих языков. поэтому присоединяюсь к вашим словам благодарности(стырил к себе несколько птичеследиков из ролика)
Surprisingly, there are many similarities with the Turkish language and the mythological elements are also very similar. It seems that there were shamans in Sumer. Very interesting
Who ever came to akkadia copied and adopted it's language and it's first record of invasion is around 1600BCE and they were most probably African who came first to turkey and then to sumeria then came Persians most probably Hyksos after wards third wave was that of Scythian who brought iron weaponry along with them and rest is the history
All languages come from 1 single language. Fact. I believe that our cultures go back MUCH farther than we have been taught. Gobeckli Tepi, 12,000 years ago. And I believe we have unearthed a few more even older civilizations in Turkey. Our past is much deeper than any academics books. We have been around for many MILLIONS of years!
Very interesting. Comment about Arratta. We know the locaction of the Aratta, because in mentioned in Sumerian history with precise instruction how to travel from Sumer to Aratta. It was a land between Iran, Turkey, Kurdistan and Armenia known latter as Urartu. Second comment is that many of the languages from Iran, Kurdistan and Armenia disappeared after invasion od Indo-European tribes (Iranians and Armenians) about 2000 BC. I thin here we look for te homeland of Sumerians who probably was imigrannts or invaders to earlier cities od Ubaid culture and finally took control of the teritoro of previous Ubaid culture. Last interesting thing are cases. Sumerians have cases that are present in Hungarian language (Locative 1 and Locative 2). Maybe there was some family of aglutative languages from Iran and Caucasus region. Some of tribes migrated north and started Fion-Ugric languages. Other people were assimiliated by semitic Akkadians or Indoeuropean Iranians, Armenians and Khurds. Anyway today Farsi (Iranian) language have melody lttle similiar to Hungarian. Maybe this is only coincidence but maybe is a mark of assimiliation some aglutative language autochtons by Iranians.
@@hunguy3280 OK I will be waiting - I was writing about hypotetical aglutative family of languages, but this is only hipotesis for now. Hungarian is the best living example of such language.
@@longinzaczek5857 This is the bit that I was referring to: Many researches in the past tried strenuously to compare the Sumerian language to Indo-European or to the Hebrew or other Semite languages just like JuLingo did in this video, but they all failed to solve this mystery of the Sumerian language, from the messages of the hundreds of Stone - tablets. In the end they had to admit that this can only be related to an ancient Scythian language, which then means that one cannot deny the relationship or identity to the Hungarian language. It was Oppert the first Researcher or Scientist, who realized the connection of the Sumerian language to the Scythian writings. A Hungarian priest by the name of Rónay Jácint approached both Oppert and Lenormant that they should both try the Hungarian language, to solve this mystery. At a later stage Haribald Sayce an English Sumerian researcher also joined this Scientific group. J Oppert, in 1858 stated that the grammatical relationship of the Sumerian writings have a strong relationship to the present Hungarian language. Lenomant was also of the same view in his writings reasserting that the ancient Sumerian language is the closest relative to the Hungarian language. Further to this, according to Dr. Zakar András out of 100 Hungarian words, 63 would have Sumerian origins. Some examples of Sumerian words to Hungarian are as follows: Isten = Isten= God, Ur = Ur = Sir/Mr./Master/Almighty, Ama = Anya = Mother, Adda = Atya = Father, Es = Eszik = Eat, Dál = Tál = Plate, Gada = Gatya = Trousers, Kapa = Kapa = Hoe, Maskim - Macska = Cat, Muunga = Munka = Work/Labour etc...
@@hunguy3280 Thank you - I am not the lauguage specialist, I have just reda a little when looking for language connections to guess how first migration of Indo-Europeans could go. Of course I was checking neighbouring languages (including Finno-Ugric family), because of possible cross-language references. One possible hypotesis is that after last ice age different group of people migrated from Middle East to North. First agglutative language nations, then Indo-European language family people. About 3000-2000 Indo Europeans spreadded across Southern Russia and Central Asia steppes dividing aglutative languages into several parts (thanks to horses nad carriages/charriots). Of course different tribes often mixed an melted together and also borrow some words. Therefore it is possible that there are some traces/fingerprints of aglutative languages in some Indo European languages like Scythian languages. Usually grammar is the strongest evidence of language connection. Similiar words are weaker evidence connections because words could be borrowed between neighbouring languages.
Longin Zaczek Herewith is my promised comment. Probably you already read it. Many researches in the past tried strenuously to compare the Sumerian language to Indo-European or to the Hebrew or other Semite languages just like JuLingo did in this video, but they all failed to solve this mystery of the Sumerian language, from the messages of the hundreds of Stone - tablets. In the end they had to admit that this can only be related to an ancient Scythian language, which then means that one cannot deny the relationship or identity to the Hungarian language. It was Oppert the first Researcher or Scientist, who realized the connection of the Sumerian language to the Scythian writings. A Hungarian priest by the name of Rónay Jácint approached both Oppert and Lenormant that they should both try the Hungarian language, to solve this mystery. At a later stage Haribald Sayce an English Sumerian researcher also joined this Scientific group. J Oppert, in 1858 stated that the grammatical relationship of the Sumerian writings have a strong relationship to the present Hungarian language. Lenomant was also of the same view in his writings reasserting that the ancient Sumerian language is the closest relative to the Hungarian language. Further to this, according to Dr. Zakar András out of 100 Hungarian words, 63 would have Sumerian origins. Some examples of Sumerian words to Hungarian are as follows: Isten = Isten= God, Ur = Ur = Sir/Mr./Master/Almighty, Ama = Anya = Mother, Adda = Atya = Father, Es = Eszik = Eat, Dál = Tál = Plate, Gada = Gatya = Trousers, Kapa = Kapa = Hoe, Maskim - Macska = Cat, Muunga = Munka = Work/Labour etc...
I am in the early stages of studying anthropology, based on a real-world experience that has perplexed and excited me. This experience has taken me almost direct to Mesopotamia. This video was full of terrific perspectives that add both depth and mystery to my exploration. Julie has a wonderful ability to present information that is otherwise complex, simply and rationally.
The Sumerians have zero genetic link to European. Study all your like. This wasn't ancient Egypt. They were never conquered by Europeans. They were conquered by Semetic populations. Who also has zero genetic link with Europeans. Enjoy you search😀
There are interesting similarities between Sumerian and Turkish languages such as: 1. Both agglutinative languages 2. Grammarly, the sentence contains subject in the beginning and verb at the end 3. Consonance in words 4. No distinction between male and female personal pronouns 5. More than four hundred words in common with present day Turkish i.e. iri, duri, ikki. men etc.
When i start to read about academical papers and new words of Sumerian language, i am shocking with the similitaries. as i learned until now, Turkish and Turkic languages are directly the continuum of Kiengir aka Sumerian language. wovals are a-e-ı-i-o-ö-u-ü this is also same in Finnish and Hungarian. kar gışı - Turkish "kargaşa" means kaos Smr. kabkagag / Tr. kapkacak = this is a common word for pot, pan, bowl, pottery etc. kitchen stuff. this is a deadly sample that morpologia totally supports it. I think Eng. Cup comes from Tr. kap. Tr. Dip=Deep etc. also in english there are hundreds of Turkish org. words. Turkish-Celtic Smr. dug-gan - tukannu = bag / Tr. Dükkan - Tükan = small shopping magazin(it is a small magazine to buy bread, yogurt etc. basic things) anna - Tr. anne - means mother Smr. ul-a, ul-la = with joy, joyfully Tr. ile = ( with) Smr. ul =joy, happiness, pleasure - Tr. ol = to be - usage- be happy = mutlu ol. ol and ul as eng. "be". Smr. agar = heavy Tr. Ağır = heavy Smr. dingir - tengir - kengir = Tr. old Tengri new Tanrı = God Smr. gişig - Tr. eşik aka. kapı = door - entrance Smr. men and Zae = Tr. Ben(me) Sen(you) Smr. Temir = Tr. Demir = Iron Smr ai = Tr. ay = Eng. moon Smr. ab = Tr. eb/ev = eng house, home. Smr. gur = Tr. vur = Eng. hit Smr. gid = Tr. git = Eng. go, release Smr. yir = tr. yer =Eng. country, place, earth Smr. tab = Tr. yap = Eng. do Smr. jarık = Tr. Yarık = Eng. slit, rift Smr. tapa =Tr. tapa or tıpa = Eng. the thing that used to close the head of bottle or stg. stopper, plug. same usage! There is no such thing called coincidence between these two languages. Today Turkiye's turkish lang and other Turkic languages have many differences on phonetics. for ex. Tr. yol = col in Kırgız Turkish. In Summerian it is "Jol." Eng. way, path. Smr. jarım = Tr. yarım = Eng. the half, the half of stg. Smr. Jün = Tr. Yün = Eng. wool There are serious phonetic deformations on letters as b-v / gu-u / gu-du/ gi-ti/ yi-i/yas-cas/ yu-tu/ t-y/ d-t/ y-d/ etc. All researches are made by Eu or Us researchers. We need to make a detailed research includes the whole Turkic languages. and i think Sumerian language will be translated faster. As you noticed that these words are used in daily life. i mean main words which are not taken from somewhere. Whoever we call Turkic are directly their grandsons... and hundreds of words are the same by root that no time to write here. I think this language can be root of Turkish lang. and effected "naturally" many other langs. there are still thousands of untranslated tablets to learn about their culture. And urartus, hattians were using this kind of agglutinative language. Turks didnt come to Anatolia in 10. century. There are turkish influence B.C. 2500 in and around Anatolia as Turik, Törük, Türik, Türkis, Turukkus, Turuks, Tükri, Turk-ur/Tuk-ir (Turuk-Uruk/ ur-Uruk). I think someone trying to kick out Turks from mesopotamian and Anatolian history. :)) you can check it yourself with this doc. and a Turkish vocabulary. cdli.mpiwg-berlin.mpg.de/articles/cdlp/3.0.pdf
The Sumerians are the Kurds ancestor especially Kelhori feyli Kurds indoeuropeans Indo-Iranians brunch Look at similarities between Kurdish and Sumerians language and compaire with Semitic language 1. Gilgamesh Sumerians = Kele gamesh Kurdish = Hero Bull english= Al thaur Al batal Semitic. 2. Uruk Sumerians = Hur yek or Xur yek Kurdish= Sun one english ☀️1= Shams wahid Semitic. 3 Ur Sumerians = Hur or Xur Kurdish ☀️= Sun english = Shams semetic 4. Bira Sumerians = Bira Kurdish = Brother english= Akhi Semitic 5. Bapilga Sumerians = Bapira Kurdish = grandfather english = Aljad Semitic 6. Chia Sumerians = Çia Kurdish = mountain english = Aljabal Semitic 7. Sur Sumerians = Sur Kurdish = Red english = Sur Indoeuropeans = Ahmar Semitic 8. Hesht Sumerians = Heşt Kurdish 8= eight english 8= Thamanya Semitic 9. Baran Sumerians = Baran Kurdish = Rain english = Matar Semitic 10. Ji Sumerians = Jê Kurdish= Place english = Makan Semitic 11. Dar Sumerians = Dar Kurdish = Tree english 🌳= Shajarah Semitic 12. Diviser Sumerians = Niviser Kurdish = Author english = Katib Semitic 13. An Sumerians = Nan Kurdish = Bread english = Khubz Semitic 14. Ard Sumerians = Ard or arz Kurdish = Erth english = Arz Semitic 15. Ab zu Sumerians = Av ze Kurdish = River water english= maa al nahr Semitic 16. Apin Sumerians = Asin Kurdish = Iron english = Hadid Semitic 17. Arazu Sumerians = Arazu Kurdish = Pray english = salat Semitic 18. Ashukani Sumerians = Sarekani Kurdish = wtaer source english = Ras alain Semitic Etc
@@JuLingo Yeah they were a fascinating people, even their bricks n streets were regulated to 4:2:1 ratio. Hope 1 day someone finds a way to crack their script.
Except DNA science and archeology clearly refute that claim. Simple example: Gobekli Tepi, which predates Sumer by at least 5,000 years. It would be more accurate to say "the history of human language begins at Sumer" but the video here partially refutes that, too.
@@taterkaze9428 nah man, it would be more accurate to understand that history doesn't mean the presence of human life, but the recounting of the presence of human life. It doesn't begin when human life begins, but when human life begins to be recorded. Of which DNA science has nothing to say, mind you.
@@fivetimesyo "recorded". I am sorry but writing doesn't automatically make history more valid. Division of pre-history and history is outdated and was used many times to dismiss a lot of societies as "uncivilised". It shouldn't be used anymore
It is truly remarkable to witness the dedicated efforts toward the revival of our ancient world's culture. I deeply appreciate and support this endeavor, and I extend my heartfelt best wishes to India, a nation rooted in the eternal culture.
Julie, thank you for your enlightening and interesting programs, covering so many interesting languages. I am curious, however, why you have not included Arabic. It is an unusual language in that over two thousand years ago it could express anything required today, which made it unnecessary to undergo as much change as other languages. What prompted it to become so expressive so early? Thank you.
Arabic isn't the most early iteration of .. Arabic. First, it was the language spoken wit Hieroglyphs. TzjRT was an ancient Egy word for Willow Tree. شجره .. The language of Hieroglyphs is similar to Akkadian; the educated among both populat'ns could communicate with each other, learned both lingos. I don't know the answer to your question, nor your lingo, alas.. But I wanted to point out that Arabic didn't materialize out of thin air 2000 y. ago.. Humanity had bean working on it for awhile. :D
@@margo1628 so interesting, and what about Aramaeic, the "Latin" of the near East, or about the Phoenician alphabeths (aleph, beith, ...)...it is just overwhelming, so exciting... one could almost forget about actual "realities". I kindly accept the sympathetic voice and the even sympathetic look of the woman crafting this clip, and even more because there are -even confessed!- errors within it!! A fat hug to every individual, which donated donates her his time as well as energy into deciphering these ancient symbols and letters ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
I am not Julie but one reason for not getting to Arabic yet is because it is being uncovered almost AS WE SPEAK, by MacDonald and al-Jallad and van Putten amongst others. I had an edit reversed in Wikipedia, for posting their findings there in 2016ish (which is a big reason I haven't done anything there since then). These three men whom I've noted have found that Quranic Arabic is a Nabataean-like language very close to Hismaic and Safaitic, mutually-intelligible so more like dialects of that language. Arabic's history as a language would then stem back to about, oh, 100 BC along Jordan and the northwest Hijaz. Before that, it gets a little murkier, because these Arabs weren't literate before 100 BC; elsewhere, Arabians spoke other Semitic languages which were not "Arabic" as we know it. Taymanitic seems to be closer to northwest Semitic tongues like Aramaic and Hebrew. Hasaitic was its own thing, to the east. South Arabia spoke Hadrami and Sabaean; Oman was entirely illiterate but it seems that the "modern south arabian" languages like Mehri descend from whatever they were speaking and not writing. A very diverse place, ancient Arabia . . .
I have a PhD in Near Eastern Languages, including Sumerian, and when this video popped up I watched it with skepticism. But I was very pleasantly surprised. Julie knows her stuff. In a short video she covers the issues of who were the Sumerians, the writing system, and the structure of the language. Very well done!
Thank you for your comment! I’m pleased to hear that you found it well-made
what was your thesis for getting your phd?
Magadi is the oldest. we can not translate that language to another by doing a simple word-to-word translation. It needs meaning capturing. For example, if the book says Malaya Raja was born by a blue lotus that means a woman with dark skin.
Its Sumari Asura. They came from the current island of Sri Lanka and they were able to fly using simple mechanism and using large birds. Even Syrian, Asirian means sura - asura. There had been waves of migrations because of a volcano eruption.
Imagine that Tim: someone as smart as you?
Thank you a lot for this amazing video! I know it is been a long time since you posted this video, but here I am appreciating it.
I was looking for good content at Google Chrome about the Sumerian civilization and then I searched up about it in RUclips, too. Gladly I found your channel and your amazing video. I'm amazed, really!
Hi Julie - I absolutely love your videos! Although professionally I work as a data scientist, my first love is history. Over the last few years, my primary research interests outside of work have focused on cultures in ancient Mesopotamia and Meso-America. It’s wonderful to gain a better understanding of Sumerian and to hear that language brought to life. Thanks so much for what you do, it’s incredibly valuable. ❤
As a Kurd, I cannot understand why some Kurds think that the Sumerians are ancient Kurds. My friend, the Sumerians were an ancient civilization and they disappeared, there is no one left from them. But the traces of their culture and language remained. Kurds and Assyrians are really stubborn people when it comes to preserving their culture. Today, it is not unusual to encounter traces of Sumer in both Kurdish and Assyrian culture. But this does not mean that they were our ancestors. They are a society that built civilization in these lands and then disappeared. But some features of their language and culture are literally still preserved by the Kurds, Yazidis and Assyrians.
How did they disappear?
Maybe they abandoned their cities due to warfare or epidemic...
I doubt if they disappeared entirely. They were probably absorbed by later societies. It happens all the time.
Actually many of Turk have This illusion 😂😂
This is surely one of the most thorough discussions of Sumerian for the layperson/amateur linguist. It was easy for me to pause and go over the representations. Thank you.
I can almost bet money that the woman doesnt know anything about the Sumerian language or know to translate it. its just presented images and knowledge put together
Bet you couldn't wait to get that off your chest.
Skin tone definitely isn't my first thought when I hear "black headed," hair color is. Like, most of you hair is on your head, so if you have Black hair, you're black headed - not saying that's the actual origin, it just seems more intuitive to me than skin tone lol
That's right. It's even clearly visible on one of the statues.
How would that have distinguished them from the people around them?
@@listenup2882 It wouldn't necessarily, as I said, it's just the first thing that would come to my mind, not necessarily a probable origin.
I imagine it as maybe the color of paint they wore. But it doesn't really matter.
This is the southern part of mesopotamia and even today blondes, brunettes
and redheads are in extremely short supply so black hair wouldn't be exceptional enough to use as an identifier. To be honest neither would very dark skin!!
I have been a student of this region, people's, and archeological sites for decades. Thank you for opening another door into these very ancient times.
The Sumerians were the Atlanteans...with the job of carrying the torch of and for the light...for thy were very spiritual...
Informative, interesting and I enjoyed the full segment. Thank you for taking the time to create this for us!
Imagine a civilization so old, the locals didn't even know about it for thousands of years
Imagine they found out the civilasation bevore was their „Makers“and thats why they all have dark hair and Blue or green eyes?
@Eno Media WE WUZ KANGZZZ
𒅋𒋫𒄠𒋢𒌝𒊏𒊏𒋗𒌒𒋾𒂊𒆷𒋾𒅎
Sumerian has a close relationship with Kurdish, for political reasons. It is said that it has nothing to do with the region, which is incorrect
@enomedia1876 Ur was in Southern Mesopotamia which is far away from Nigeria.
Feel free to show some evidence and not some conspiracy theory.
As a kid seeing books on Sumerian language in my grandfather’s library I’ve always wanted to learn about Sumerian language . Now that I’m older and can spend time on it I’m very excited to find your page.
Good job Julie. I enjoyed with the video.
I want to give you 2 names about Kiengir people aka Sumerian and their mythology which is directly connected to todays's religions and myths.
1- Muazzez İlmiye Çığ(She was a part of researches and translations of Sumerian language as a Sumerolog and archivist.) She never puts a comment and manipulates but gives direct trustful info.
2- Prof. Gönül Tekin (University of California, Turkologist and Turkish Literature Lecturer) When you start to listen her you will get amazed cause she is a walking library.
Enjoy!
"Su-merian. Su in Turkish= Watter"Fritz Hommel from Germany. Gene D Matlock from England. Sven Lagerbring from Sweden. Lotte Hedeager from Denmark.
Excellent! I found myself drawn to your mention of the Ubaid Culture and went to Wiki to explore; which led me to the life and work of Thorkild Jacobsen "7 June 1904 - 2 May 1993) was a renowned Danish historian specializing in Assyriology and Sumerian literature. He was one of the foremost scholars on the ancient Near East." wiki. I was happy to feel pulled toward and to land on his work "The Harps That Once...: Sumerian Poetry in Translation". Have ordered that book and look forward to receiving soon What a fun learning adventure! Thank you! 🙏🏼
Same birthday as me so must have been a great guy and handsome too.
We need a part 2 on the sumerian language! I was craving for more examples and the sounds from full phrases!
@hiOOxkr magkis most likely the sumerians came from the now drowned persian gulf
@@greguir They might came from multiple places as they had wandered to everywhere as they were disappeared.
I agree would love to see a video 2. If you are interested in learning more about ancient languages check this ruclips.net/p/PLaINFseE0hFoBeXjYaWWM3uCXjTGl_G3E
Learn kurdish .To understand sumerian..
𒅋𒋫𒄠𒋢𒌝𒊏𒊏𒋗𒌒𒋾𒂊𒆷𒋾𒅎
I've watched many of your language videos! You are amazing in how you are able to be so knowledgeable about so many languages! It's a joy to watch and learn from you! All best in your future language endeavors!
Thank you very much!
@@JuLingo On a practical level; how do you learn and remember all those ancient languages?
@@deborahswart1718she's probably pretty smart and has a natural interest in this subject and probably has been doing for a very long time.
@@deborahswart1718Language , a coin : precious than gold..
And there is no supreme literature on earth
except, language !
Language is happiness no matter who you are, learn it and be a part of that people and
culture..💙🌴🤎💛
I learned Sanskrit for several years and now, I am taking on the challenge teaching myself Sumerian. Keep up the good work. You are doing a wonderful job!
How do you study sumerian?
consider this (from the perspective of the bible...im not a christian or jew what so ever) the fall of the tower of babylon....god gave speak confusion...not many diferent new languiges. whit other words we still speak the same one and only languige broken down true time whit new meanings other forms of speaking out the same words (expecially by sound!!!) the old netherlands (dutch) version is the closed to the sumerian languige....i used it to decifer the languige all over the world and possible even beyond this world (either alien or more of the spirits/angels what ever you want to call them) it is not the letters it is the sound the frequentie....and to qoute jezus from the bible in this case....speaking is silver silence is gold ;)
@@gilnopvariko a-dam can't do it
Keep doing. When Anunaki return to our world you'll be my translator 😃
@@skywankerlukee oh yes they can as the first human couple; one male & one female birthed from the dust/aphar as clay aka adamah in Hebrew and shaped by YHWH by His own "hands" and brought to life through His "breath"/ ru'akh.
Hi Juli, some additional for your topic: "1870 - FRANÇOIS C. LENORMAND, the amazingly talented French linguist, stated: “The Sumerian language, not only in its vocabulary but also in its structure, is a Turanian language.” It is obvious that his work was very thorough because he studied the Hungarian historical phonetic linguistics and he studied the Halotti Beszéd, the Legend of St. Margaret and the Bible of the Hungarian Hussites."
النقوش السومرية توضح لنا أشخاص بعيون (كبيرة جدا) ، لا تبدو لي هذه العيون من الشرق إطلاقا
😂😂😂 go back to central asia please
@@قبل7سنوات-ف8مالسوماريون كانوا قومية مستقلة ، الاتراك انذاك لم تلد قوميتهم
@@Kunta-Kinte002
لا أعتقد ذلك ، أنا أعتقد أنهم إمتداد طبيعي للشعب الوسطي /السامي/العربي
@@قبل7سنوات-ف8م لا للتعريب ، صديقي ، ليسوا ساميون هم اصلا ليسوا محليون ، يا صديقي ، العرب جزء من العائلة السامية و ليس كل الساميون عرب
I hold a degree in Linguistics and Languages and I have never seen as beautifully articulated and eloquently stated review❤❤. Outstanding clip! Please make more!!
@CNN @BBC @tbmm @whitehouse @harvard @BogaziciUniversitesi @trtworld
www academia edu/118608130/Imology_Thesis_by_Ibrahim_Usta_3_pdf
Please read my thesis first, by copying and pasting it then adding two missing dots to reach it.
1. **Missing Part of Herodotus' Histories:**
- Why is a significant section of Herodotus' Histories concerning the kinship of Mesopotamians missing? Who removed it, and for what reason? My intuition suggests that this part is hidden at the University of Chicago. If true, this would be a major scandal, reflecting a blatant disregard for research ethics and academic honesty.
2. **Clay Tablets in Hattusa:**
- How were clay tablets written in Old Sumerian (circa 2500 BCE) found in Hattusa, the Hittite capital, from a period (circa 1800-1400 BCE) when Babylon was dominant in Mesopotamia, using a Sumerian-Assyrian mixed language? Could it be that many Sumerians migrated to Anatolia after Sargon's conquest of Sumerian city-states?
3. **Turkish DNA Composition:**
- When Turkish people undergo DNA tests, they often show a mix of 30-50% Greek or Armenian, 20-30% Kurdish and Persian, 15-20% Semitic (Arab and Jewish), and 20-30% Caucasian (Georgian, Circassian). What proportion of Native American genes appear in the DNA results of white Americans?
4. **Turkish Historical Presence:**
- Given that Turks have historical ties since the Sumerians, Hittites, and during the Trojan Wars, how can it be claimed that Turks exterminated these races if their genetic markers are still present in our DNA? Conversely, how did white Americans supposedly integrate Native Americans after taking over the continent? What are the average DNA results for white Americans?
5. **The Term "White House":**
- Does the adjective "white" in "White House" imply that the USA is led by a predominantly white Americans' federal system? Doesn't this name suggest that the USA still harbors racist tendencies?
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These questions aim to probe historical, genetic, and sociopolitical issues, demanding transparency and accountability.
so it means your degrees are desperate as your fantasies.. cuz this video is concluded of fictioned indo arian based utopias, that composed with church dreams.. desperate funny bunnies you are :)
I've researched for a very long time the Sumerian and other ancient languages of the Mesopotamian region and can confidently say you did one of the most balanced and informative videos on Sumerians I've ever seen. This video is definitely the best introduction available for those that want to get dive into that topic. I have on big tip: You said that Tamil wasn't seen as similar to Sumerian, but in my experience most linguistic researches on those ancient tongues do not really disclose or try at all discovering the "remnants" of ancient languages in modern ones. I have no idea about Tamil, but am 99% sure that many Sumerian words, or specifically Elamite words, still exist in it till today. Elamites were known to have been ruled at some point by a seafaring dark skinned people that attacked the Sumerian cities. I know from my own researches that Sumerian words and special grammatical features still exist in different Kurdish dialects. Even though the grammar and words are so different, sometimes one can make out full phrases that exist exactly the same in Kurdish. Such as "murani gir" for "He did a heroic deed". Kurdish linguists also created dictionaries proving that at least a thousand words still are used, but aren't famous.
So anybody that wants to be a Sumerologist or expert in ancient languages, then my tip is to speak with the local natives and listen to their knowledge.
Well, I guess Sumerians had a BIG influence on every civilization they were in contact with, and those who came later, as Sumerian was the language used by clergy and kings, like Latin.
Kurd is very close to Median, which was an active civilization in the later stages of the New Babylonians. About Dravidic, of which Tamili is a branch, it is still today present in eastern Afghanistan form where most precious stones and copper was coming. There are also serious hints that Harrappa and other Indus river civilization were a Dravidian culture, which explain how many words were borrowed from there due to commerces across the Iran coast.
Even in Finnish and Scottish peoples use many sumerian words. It was a great civilization with huge effect.
There is over 400 words and very similar grammatic as in ural-ugriche languages. Finnish, Komi, Mary, Modvians, Hungary and so on....
Simple question. Is Zecharia Sitchin's translations correct or not? Plain and simple.
Altaic is the origin of Indo European languages, Sumerians are "Turks", Australian Aboriginals, Native American Indians, Dukha (Turks), EskiMongol, Korean Japanese share an Altay Ancestor. Altay is the origin of the human species to have come out of Africa. There won't be many local natives left in the middle east, most people there don't even have the Asian epicanthic fold anymore and very Indo European now.. Even people think Scythians are Iranic people because they mixed in syria, Iraq and Iran..
Love it. Languages are my obsession. Currently studying an Arawakan language called Garifuna. Keep it going.
any suggestion on how to find material to study the lesser known languages?
@@valeriobenedetti7791 community groups. In my area there is a group studying ladino. A Sephardi group. Ask anyone about their language and you can't get them shut up. Failing that, RUclips videos. That is how I learned Portuguese and Yoruba. Some of the software language programs are incorporating the more obscure languages. I maybe wrong but Rosetta stone may have added Haitian creole. Ancient languages? There are Assyrian and Kurdish community groups. Oh add Mayan and Aztec to the mix. Be careful with Aztec. It has now become the language of the cartels. Hope that helps.
I thought garifuna was african infused language made up of various african languages brought by the slave trade to central america?
@@lyssanch3096 almost no African words in Garifuna. The escaped slaves mixed with the local carib Indians. The Africans were mostly male. The mothers were Carib or kalinago. Children learn language from the mother. Subsequent generations spoke Carib. The only African word in Garifuna is baba. For father. Another theory is that the Africans spoke many different languages. So the kids used Carib as a common language. If you listen to Garifuna you will hear how the Caribbean sounded before the arrival of Columbus. There are parts of central America where you will hear Garifuna, Maya and misquito spoken alongside each other.
@@cristobalvalladares973 thanks a lot! I hope to find some of those community groups in my areas too then
Thanks from Kazakhstan,very interesting to watch!
I have been interested in Sumerian for many years. I appreciate your contribution to my knowledge on the subject.
انا سومري 🇮🇶
. Tower of Babel dispersion results. Chinese had both same word for God "Di" as in "Shang Di" -"Most High God" and sacrificial system (Emperor sanctifies himself then sanctifies blameless sheep which is slaughtered for sins of the people. The sons of Noah spread out N and NW Japheph. West and SW Ham. Shem some went north. They carried their faith in the one true God with them. Shem-Semitic S=SH ex ashur probably Syria. As they fled north look ar age geography Feghana valley leads to Turin Valley leads to Altai mountains. Lots of people groups in China and Thailand/ Myanmar say they originated at the Altai mountains. Altai means golden in Mongolian. This leads to the Heixi corridor and one of the most fertile places on earth-which they all fought over. The losers went south Hmong, Mon, Lisu, Tai etc.By the way all these speak tonal languages. Altaic languages are agglutinative SOV languages like modern day Turk languages. I don't believe the video is more than 70 % correct nevertheless they are right about the differentiation of Tonal and Agglutinative language origin. The Dene-Yenisarian soup that crossed the ice bridge was both Tonal and Agglutinative. A tribe of them the "New Pearse" had stories of the Creator and the flood and questioned Lewis and Clark for the "Book of God"
I just found your channel. A good surprise, indeed. I love to study languages since I was a kid.The way you contextualize all these ancient languages is amazing. A "cultural and sociological background " makes the study much more empiric and intense. Thanks for sharing this knowledge with us. From now on I will start to watch the earlier videos.
Best regards from Brazil.
Actually going from a sound to a sound is really common especially through an intermediary and has happened in Swedish, French, and countless other languages.
For example (Latin>French)
Caballus -> Cheval
/k/ /ʃ/
I’d say almost every language I know of or heard of. K,g followed by vowels like i and e easily palatalizes. E.g. Peking -> Beijing, and the famous Caesar
Palatalization 🤷🏻♀️
sumers was not usin your indo-eu languages and we found similarities with only 1 language in the world kengir is a clan and plant name in turkish
comparisons between Latin (and its cognates) and Sumerian are not very apt.
Nor is there actually a reason to think up a process by which Kingir became S(h)umer. They are names in very different languages and such can be very different, compare French Allemagne, English Germany, German Deutschland.
Coincidentally I finally, earlier today, watched David Miano 's video on The mysterious origins of the Sumerians on his World of Antiquity channel. Viewers might like to watch it as a companion to this.
Thankyou Julie. This was a lovely video
Thank you so much for this introduction to Sumerian. I am a huge fan of the Gilgamesh Epic and have long been interested in this fascinating people from which many of our cultures may have sprung and, in many cases, absolutely DID.
I am a big fan of the Epic it's the oldest known text yet so modern. If you are interested in learning more about ancient languages check this ruclips.net/p/PLaINFseE0hFoBeXjYaWWM3uCXjTGl_G3E
Not just the cultures, but many peoples also partially comes from them. They didnt die out.Their latest apperance is under the name of Hunnic empire and Attila.
Nice to see a fellow Gilgamesh enjoyer
Hungarians are also Turkish. Hun Turks.
Do you know the meaning Anu in Sumerian language?
I would love to see you do more on Sumerian. Wonderfully done! Thank you!
Well done, lassie. Your historical accuracy and style add to the subject in my humble opinion.
lassie made good movies also but that's stretching linguistics I guess. What Lassie? Timmy broke his arm? The smartest dog so far has learned over 1000 words though.
This was really a masterful presentation, and while I am an amateur in the relevant fields,, is plain that Julie does her homework. I can't blame her for not knowing what nobody knows, and I'm left with a hunger to get involved in archaeology in that area. Solving the question of where the Sumerians came from would be a magnificent accomplishment, and finding earlier clues about their language would be just as much of an accomplishment.
Great video as usual !
Nonetheless, I'm surprised to hear you explaining that the diachronic mutation "from k to sh" is very unusual. On the contrary, I love diachronic linguistic and it turn out that evolution from velar to post-alveolar (or retroflex and palatal) consonants is pretty common. This relationship can been seen even in well-known Indo-European languages such as French or Spanish. Thus, the Latin voiceless velar stop consonant ["k"] led to a voiceless post-alveolar fricative ["sh"] in French, even before the back vowel "a" (ex : château < castellum, cheval < cabellus, etc). Symmetrically, Spanish saw what was its voiced post-alveolar fricative ["zh"] to be understood more easily by English speaking people) became a voiceless velar fricative ["ch" as in LoCH Ness], hence the current pronunciation of the spanish letter "j" ("la jota").
Perhaps she means - in the indoeuropean linguistics, as we know the dychotomic division into "kentum, and "satem" languages?
also, in Gulf Arabic dialects (especially the dialect of the UAE) they pronounce the letter kaf (K) as sh when it's at the end of words
You are right, to be honest I don’t know how I didn’t think about it… I’ll do a bit of investigation and maybe add some corrections in the description. Thanks for pointing out!
Hioroglifes 7 mil ans avant Jésus fictif in nubie and plus récente recently nubie peuple in Mésopotamie ( hiéroglyphes nubiens = animaux, faune and flore et cunéiformes the same and stylé)
In 1970s? 80s?, in California, US
at college I spoke, to an Iranian
student, who knew of, or personally knew, people who claimed to be. from Sumer
royal family, who lived in Iran
(during Shah's period). Does, that
family, still exist ? The probably
know everything about Sumer!!!
Let us hope that they are still.alive somewhere and see willing to talk
and write (and produce own youtube channel ? Even in Farsi it
would certainly attract attention,
in English it would be a phenomenon, as Mid E and W
historians, UFOlogists (Anunaki
connection) etc. all would want
to ask so many questions !!!
As I read the comments, I can see I am not the target here. I am not particularly bright so am not an academic. I watch these types of videos knowing that many of the finer points are going to be over my head and will probably remain so. I watch these types of videos because I am fascinated by language in general and in other cultures. These videos give me a "big picture" understanding that I am not sure I can put into words, but yet somehow meaningful to me.
I said all that just to say thank you.
I think you are mixing up education and intelligence. A curious mind like yours is intelligent.
I picked up a little about liguistics from helping a friend with het open university degree but the more technical bits were over my head.
I am well educated but more importantly also well read. My wotking class parents were also well read. Reading broadens your vocabulary ( a good dictionary is the best friend here).
Despite this I do know how you feel. I watch science lectures and videos. Once they get past the basics a lot of what they say leaves me a bit mogidored. But I understand enough to get the gist and trust that some of it will just soak into my brain like rain on dry earth. ❤
@@helenamcginty4920 ❤ that was wonderful, thank you.
1932 - EDGAR CLEMENT, German linguist, was so impressed by the musicality of the language that he learned Hungarian. According to him, the Hungarian language had a magical strength, which reflected a deep spirituality and only the highest ranking languages, especially the old classical languages could match up to it.
1939 - GÉZA BÁRCZY, member of the Hungarian Academy of Science, discovered the 5000 year-old Sumerian suffixes and proved that they were identical to the Hungarian suffixes.
1940 - Sir LEONARD WOOLLEY, English archeologist and linguist, excavated the Sumerian city, Ur of the Chaldees. He found 400,000 clay tablets, which were covered with linguistic material. He made a glossary and deciphered a large number of texts for the Institutum Biblicum in Rome, among them a six volume Sumerisches Lexicon, in which he deciphered 4,000 words.
National Geographic published a book in the eighties called "Splendors of the Past". In there was a reference to Sumer language as "it is similar to Turkish and Hungarian but otherwise unrelated." Hm.
11:22 5+x numbering system like khemer, base 10 & base 60 coexist
Magyar did maketh me come here today. 🪷
The TurkoMongols mongrels are not Summerians
@@AndreaSzabo7171 Goosebumps!!
Absolutely fascinating. I am a simple lay person with a fascination for languages. I really speak nothing but American English, but your presentation and understanding of such an ancient language held me transfixed throughout your entire production.
I could sit and listen to you for hours every day.
I recently read a hypothesis that only largely monosyllabic languages could get the idea of writing off the ground because the rebus principle is easier for such languages, and that principle is essential to get enough "difficult" words depicted to get started with sufficiently full speech transcription
Egyptian & Mesoamerican languages kinda throws a wrench into that hypothesis though. There are enough major exceptions that I'm not sure I completely buy that.
@@Afrologist The hypothesizer said Mayan was largely monosyllabic. And even though hieroglyphs and cuneiform are visually dissimilar, the hypothesizer (and me) finds it incredulous that the _idea_ of writing itself would spring up independently in such close proximity among people who interacted all the time.
("The hypothesizer" is Peter T Daniels)
@@muskyoxes Writing was originally symbolic & not necessarily any real reflection phonemically of what was being visually presented to the reader. Logographic systems seem to be among the oldest forms of writing we find; however, syllabic writing systems only emerge once sound associations are made to specific & widely recognizable characters. The idea that representing sheep with a crude but passable sketch of a sheep is somehow correlated with monosyllabism smells kinda funny to me.
@@Afrologist It's the next step that's crucial. Using the sheep symbol for concepts related to sheep but pronounced differently, and using the sheep symbol for words pronounced the same but meaning something entirely different. It's the latter that is argued to be aided by monosyllabic language
Sincere thanks and praise for your beautiful presentation of the history of the Summians and the theories that have been presented regarding their origin. I am writing an opinion as a professor of the cuneiform writings at the Faculty of Archeology of the University of Kufa. I have worked for more than twenty years in the field of archaeological work in the Iraqi General Authority for Antiquities and Heritage. I died during my studies and my knowledge of the results of excavations. Scientific archeology I can confirm that the Sumerians were the ones who started civilization in northern Iraq. They painted and expressed their fear of animals on the walls of caves. They discovered agriculture. They domesticated animals and trimmed stones. Because of the climatic conditions and their changes, they arrived in southern Iraq, bringing with them the slave civilization that was invented. In the north of Iraq, especially since the pottery of slaves was discovered in all regions of Iraq from north to south, this is first and second, the movement of the sons of Iraq from north to south due to the deterioration of living conditions, and the current situation confirms this.. Greetings to fantastic what was presented through this wonderful video .. Prof. Dr. Fatima Abbas Salman
On top of the dictionaries the Akkadians used to teach their scribes Sumerian, there are a fair number of loan words from Sumerian in the language, which helped with piecing the language together considering we have been replicating it from being only able to use second hand sources. Languages affect each other, and I wouldn't be surprised if a fair number of words from Sumerian show signs of having to be fit into the language's etymology from other ones.
I do find it interesting that you bring up the theory that the Sumerians may not have been the first culture to develop writing, merely the first one to leave an extensive written record. Which, actually wouldn't be surprising. There are a number of proto-writing systems that predate them, after all. The Ubaid people, who are considered to be the ones first there, probably got it started, but the Sumerians refined it. Again, nothing that actually contradicts history, the Sumerians are liable to retain the credit simply because writing figured so heavily among them.
There are no other recorded people before Sumerians.
and word Sumerian does not come from Akkadian. Shumeru comes from some the area of Sumer. which the Sumerians called their area.
I watched this not knowing what to expect. I thoroughly enjoyed this presentation and your expertise. Your Bengal at the end was why I subscribed. I had a Bengal years ago that I raised from a kitten. His name was Genghis Khat (Genghis for short). He was 20% Asian spotted leopard and he was my best friend. I have never shared my life with a more intelligent, graceful, athletic or amazing animal in my life. He had a penchant for language, too, and I had to be careful what I said around him (for instance, he focused on the 'k' sound in the word 'milk', but he would also hear the word 'fuck' as 'milk', which made for some confusing and memorable moments). He lived to be 18 years old and remains as one of the finest souls I have ever known.
Love this video and look forward to watching more like this (along with more words for the algo. Worth it.)
Thanks for making this. Very engaging while at the same time being very informative.
I am Assyrian and we speak Aramaic but some of us still know how to read, write and speak Sumerian. Our flag has the Star of Shamash on it, its Sumerian deity exactly as shown on 1:00 in the middle of the tablet, but we use white, blue and red colors because thats what Sumerians painted interior of their palaces.
no as Turks claim sumerians are turk :)))))))
@@aramokurdo They can claim all they want but its not true. Thats why they attempted the genocide in 1915 to steal indigenous people land and to claim the culture as their own. You talking to an Assyrian not a westerner who doesnt know history of middle east. We know everything they did, and everything you Kurds did too.
@@aramokurdouh oh. No response?
@@eurostar0711
You are Arab Semites and not Sumerians who look like Dravidians and speak an agglutinative language. First among the Sumerians there were other ethnic groups that did not belong to their group.
@@Sariel555 Chaldean people from irak spek aramean, language of Jesus!
Absolutely love this video and this channel!!! Thanks for the fascinating and important work that you are doing via this platform 😊- cheers!
Hi Julie,
Your question at 1:38 as to how a 'K' becomes an 'Sh' (or 'Ch') is easy to answer.
A very typical and widely practiced pronunciation in many countries in this region (most prominent in Iraq, Jordan, Palestine, and parts of Syria) is to pronounce a 'K' or 'C' as an 'Sh' or 'Ch'.
Thus, Canada is pronounced Chanada or Shanada (Tshanada) and Kuwait is pronounced Chuwait or Shuwait (Tshuwait), although it is usually closer to the hard sound of 'Ch' rather than a flat soft 'Sh'.
Keefak (which means How are You?) is pronounced Cheefak. More accurately, it is pronounced like a hard 'Ch', as Tcheefak.
The Tch here comes out somewhat like an 'Sh'.
I speak many of these languages, and accents. I hope this helps.
Hi Jamal. You've explained that it is common, but you haven't actually answered WHY there was a shift in pronunciation. As she said, it's very unusual. So, do you have any idea as to WHY these pronunciations changed?
@@tigermunky
Hi Li,
I only have a guess, as I am not an expert. I speak those accents, but haven’t studied them. And, I sincerely believe that Julie, and probably yourself, are more skilled to come up with a more scientific answer.
My guess is that there was a change in demographics which lead to the prevalence of a population that used Sh/Tch/Ch instead of a C/K.
It would be similar to the story of the word Ebriq (kettle), which ends with a Q in Arabic. Q is one of the hardest phonetics and most difficult to master for non-Arabic natives.
Therefore, when the Turks ruled the region and took the word Ebriq, they changed the pronunciation of that Q to a K, as they found it difficult to pronounce the word with the original Q. The Turkish alphabets contain no Q, and you can see that it goes from LMNOP straight to RST.
In our example, my guess is that it was initially practiced as a C/K by some tribe/s which used the C/K pronunciation, but another population/tribe that used the Sh/Tch/Ch pronunciation came into the limelight and influenced all pronunciation. We have seen this occurring in history many times over and over again.
This is just a wild guess, based on no science or history that I can refer to.
By the way, I once read that this very same Ebrik (Brik) word is what was later taken by Europe and ultimately became barracks in English. I don’t know how correct this barracks claim is, though it is somewhat interesting to delve into.
The roots of languages, and their so many accents, are indeed perplexing. I follow the subject as a mere interest, surely not as a specialty.
@@jamalsaleh6551 I love your answer. ❤ It certainly sounds logical enough. I mean, I have no idea either (which is why I asked if you could explain), but I think shifting populations makes sense. Thanks for taking the time to reply.
@@tigermunky 🙏
Hi Jamal. Just like in Romanian Ce faci?, - How are you, what are you doing? Pronounced ch instead of c. Latin loanword or vice versa?
Excellent video. We dove a lot deeper than I was expecting. Thank you for sharing your hundreds of hours of research with us. Subscribed.
Thanks a lot for this one ! It's always a pleasure to learn new things about something we already (but partially) know.
Thank you for this and your other similar videos. I love learning about our history, language, religions, structures and more. We have lost so much through the years. What would our collective memory look like had we not erased or lost so much over the millenium. Thank you for studying these most important details and bringing them back to life. I love your love for history. 😊
It's great to see that Juli has discovered the Iron Law of RUclips, which is known to apply throughout the galaxy. This law is even more powerful than the "You Will Recieve a Copyright Strike for any Conceivable Reason" law. It states: "any video, from any creator, on any topic, at any time is automatically improved with the addition of a cat." The effect is further enhanced if said cat is beautiful, as in this case. Kitty should be a guest star imo.
He has a very busy schedule but I’ll try to get him to participate more!
The Obadiah Alliance Sephardic Jewish Rabbinical Court issued an Official court ruling that the Igbo people are descendants of the ancient Israelites.
@@secondexodus9105 so what 🤣
@@piked261 so ... If they are Israelites, anyone with Igbo ancestry genetically will also be Israelites. African Americans have significant Igbo ancestry
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I have been a longtime student of Near Eastern history and culture, and I was quite blown away by the fact that you were able to pack so much factual information in such a short video. Often, videos by RUclips creators leave me disappointed and sometimes angry at their miscomprehension and sometimes misrepresentation of history. You did none of that! I am impressed, and you have a new subscriber!
My day always becomes a little better when I see one of your new videos. Keep up the good work. :)
Thank you so much for your support!
I remember when I first became interested in the Mesopotamian languages. I was maybe 10 and saw this Akkadian or Babylonian writing in the background scenery of a video game I was playing and I remember thinking "that language looks pretty metal". Since then I've been interested in languages and history. Thanks for the vid.
Africa first CIVILIZATION
@@marcossealey8612 No, that wasn't the video game. Never played Civilisation. Any good?
@@mitchellhayward6492 Ur CONFUSED about Ur history.. Mesopotamia was An African COLONY..Ur History CRO MAGNON Starts in the NORTHERN HEMISPHERE 😳 Ural Mountains fringes of SIBERIA. Remember when Africans came into Europe 😏 There was Nobody there.The QUESTION then Becomes..Where Do white people come from😳
@@marcossealey8612 b0t
Interpreting "black headed people" as beeing of African descendant, is a bit of a stretch. We immigrants of middle eastern origin in germany call ourselves "Schwarzköpfe" which literally translates to black headed people. It derived from the black hair most of us have, comparatively speaking. So according to this interpretations we all would be of African origin. One has to be careful with this kind of deduction.
I was going to say the exact same thing. I have no idea why black headed was never even mentioned as meaning having black hair. That was literally the first thing that came to my mind.
Black hair might be unusual in Germany but not in southern Mesopotamia. All of Summerians neighbours would have had dark hair too.
@@achilleuspetreas3828 ung sang ngigga ( black haired people) was a collective term for all in the indigenous people on earth made in the image of UTU father of the black haired, of course this isn't mentioned because Europeans divided the black haired by skin color, hair texture, and phenotype. Today this group is known as the Melanic variety of mankind all individuals with black hair which is 97% of the world population even this is known in the Bible black hair is clean, yellow hair unclean the ung sang ngigga ( black haired) distinguished themselves from the Namrutum ( blonde haired slaves) anciently hair color was a factor of divine or inferior status
@@zoranbeader6441 not only Sumer but the world UTU is the father of the black haired) ung sang ngigga ( black haired people) are the indigenous population on earth, the Melanic variety of mankind which is 97% of the world population, Europeans knew this so they divided the black haired by skin color, hair texture and phenotype etc, this was never the case anciently
I finally became a patron. Wanted to do it since long...really not much at all, the minimun basically since I am not working. But needed to support your exceptionally enlightening and interesting dedication to such a subject so connected subtly to Human evolution, Anthropology, psychology and things like that. Plus, I just love how evidently cultured and sophisticated you are, aside from being exceptionally attractive or beautiful also, and that with all my owed respect.
1 iltam zumrā rašubti ilātim
2 litta''id bēlet nišī rabīt igigī
3 ištar zumrā rašubti ilātim
4 litta''id bēlet iššī rabīt igigī
5 šāt mēleṣim ruāmam labšat
6 za'nat inbī mīkiam u kuzbam
7 šāt mēleṣim ruāmam labšat
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-EA nasir(The best copper merchant)
"Aratta" is the name given, long, long ago, to the region around and including the mountains of Ararat. Down from the difficult terrain of the mountains you'll find remnants of the civilization here such as Göbekli Tepe, Karahan Tepe, Nevalı Çori, Hamzan Tepe, Karahan Tepe, Harbetsuvan Tepesi, Sefer Tepe, and Taslı Tepe, among others, many of which remain undiscovered.
Indeed. Gobleki Tepe dates way way before Sumerian. It looks like a time museum. Ps the Sumerians were Aryan, as are Iranians, Latins and Nordics.
Aratta is one of the names given to kingdom of Urartu. Aratta or Ararat is mentioned in the Epic Poem of Gilgamesh and Enkidu as the place" where gods convene to decide the future of mankind"
@@robertblanc7578 thats not true, they differentiate from aryan cultures so many ways; so they dont like any other surrending cultures, but they also similar to them.
@@robertblanc7578 I'm latinate and not Aryan
Go figure bro
@@robertblanc7578 I read that the original Vikings, who settled in the North, were the lost tribes of Israel.
Im interested in Sino-Tibetan language Family. Despite it is the second biggest language family and has been studied for many years, it still has many myths.
1. How does each Sino-Tibetan language related ?
2. Where is the urheimat, or where did it come from?
3. Classification problem
4. When did Proto ST split into Proto Sinitic and Proto Tibeto Burman?
aryans dear large vasta area sino tibetans scityians iranic south est asia ,middle east
sanskrit is iranic arya avestan aramaic dialect paleo siriac cirus comkered assiria siria aramaic paleo siriac they tongue assiro iranic avestan
See my giant realistic map of the Far East for Age of Empires 2. The other day, I used Spain to help them against the Turksih invasion. The Turks got as far as Xian. From Luzón, I was allowed into China to build an army and take Tibet and Afghanistan from the enemy. Meanwhile, the Chinese genocided Korea and Mongolia. Fun times.
You know that Sino-Tibetan is bullshit right?
I feel like I’m back in college, in the most pleasant way, when I listen and watch your videos. Your delivery and articulation are superb. Furthermore, I appreciate how you incorporate more alternative viewpoints, non orthodox speculations and fascinating, recent opinions. Please keep up this magnificent and enlightening work. You are appreciated.
July, I am no linguist so I am totally unqualified to comment this but was totally fascinated, your capacity for synthesis is great and I love the fact you dress differentyl for each video according to the language you are introducing, so creative I love interactive history! Now I am asking you a question i which may be very dumb or not but I won't know until I have done sufficient research on it. I am studying the Tarim mummies and those nomadic confederations in the territory of today Xinjang, that’s just above Tibet. I was watching this video as I wondered if they could provide a missing link between such wide distances, I also thought the same, how curious are some words similarties (Sky, Tien) it could not be a coincidence. The “Caucasian” looking mummies, whose oldest samples were ANE, did travel southwards in several directions, including Bactria and Mesopotamia. There are several cultural and symbolic features in their mysteric and secret cult-related traditions which find parallel in several eastern (e.g. Hinduism) and middle eastern’s, including the spiral dances, their solar and lunar and celestial worship too. Could there be a link between these peoples? I am not far enough in my research to say but would be curious to know what you think.
I am a scholar of ancient Near Eastern (Middle Eastern) history and languages. I like your video and your presentation style. Not being pedantic by nature, I don't like to correct others. However, there is one (and only one) glaring error in your lecture. When you say that the latest specimen of Sumerian dates to 100 B.C.E...it was actually last used in the region ca. 100 A.D or C.E (NOT 100 B.C.E.). BUT ONCE AGAIN, the remainder of your presentation is spot on...Kudos!
@hiOOxkr magkis Arabs even didnt exist at the time... Moreover, Arabian ancestor nation was the Egyptian, not the Sumerian, they didnt like each other.
@hiOOxkr magkis But they are not arabs 😅 those are the ancestors of the arabs
@hiOOxkr magkis and ignore the Nabateans ?
Hi, I just wanted to say how much I love all your videos, and even my sister, who is not as generally interested in linguistics as I am, also really enjoys your videos too!
I was also interested in what you had to say about the origins of the Sumerian language, in that it seemed so different to its neighbours. The Persian/Arabian Gulf was below sea level until only a few thousand years before the arrival of the Ubaid culture and then Sumeria. Because, at that time, much of the Sahara and Middle East would have been somewhat cooler, the Gulf region would have also been very fertile and may have supported a large population - when this region flooded, a lot of its inhabitants would have fled north into what became Mesopotamia.
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It's called the Arabian gulf
@@zeldanah9579 lol 😂 you saying it your self “clay tablet” Ashurbanipal library 📚
@@light9205 since when?
Thank you so much. I am fascinated by Sumerian culture and have been reading and reflecting on their stories of Innana and Erishkegal. Following you now!
I am Assyrian from (Iraq- Mesopotamia) I am very proud of coming from this part of the world that rich of history of first writing, school, libraries, wheels, frist people who divided the time, the year, very good in math, astronomy and agriculture and so on. We have a statement that say: " the first letter start here" its mean in Iraq- Mesopotamia. I hope my country's history appears and been knowing by every human being. Thank you for this short video beautiful lady, thanks for your time of reading and researching. ❤❤
The history ur talking about is very much the IndoEuropean history of Mesopotamia and not the Assyrian.
I said this part of the world, I didn't say Assyrian did all of that, "by the way I don't know why the world scared of Assyrian name to come forward"?!!!!!.
You mean "Kurdistan"
Sumerian and Assyrian are different ,the Sumerians were Kurd.
@diyarfatah The Sumerians did not belong to anyone except the Arabs and Kurds. They stopped stealing i2043
There are some theories, that the Sumarian language has connection with the Hungarian language. I wouldn’t like to go into the details of pros and cons of the argument, but two interesting things I would like to mention:
The names of many Sumarian towns has meaning in Hungarian and even there are some towns or villages or places in Hungary today with the same (or very similar) names.
The Sumarians only we call Sumarians, but they called themself Maghars. And the Hungarian call themself Magyars.
we wuz ..summerianz
Magar means donkey in Romanian
@@SauTunSud2025 romanian is the synonym of thief in Hungarian.
@@lajos-berenyi Magar.
Lmao @@geluurs8235
An entire Sumerian literature about the supreme Goddess Inanna, including 3 poems by Enheduanna (priestess, daughter of Sargon the Great, and earliest named author) exists. Flood story, Eden, and Her decent to the underworld werein she is stripped, beaten, killed, hung on a peg to rot, miraculously revived, and returned to earth transformed.
edit: quoted Betty De Shong Meador
A real day brightening kind of story.
Gee, something about that story sounds so familiar especially that part about someone dying and reviving but for christsakes I can't remember the name 🤔
@@Iknowknow112 Hey Zeus?
Inanna is not the supreme goddess of Sumerian religion and she doesn't appear in any flood story - she appears in the Gilgamesh epic but in a different section. Eden might be related to a Sumerian word for steppe but it doesn't appear in the sense of paradise.
Thank you for this video. The ancient languages and the relationships between them are a source of endless fascination for me. Great video!
Interesting! Can you please highlight on my Edo language, precisely the Bini language from Benin-City, Edo state, Nigeria.
We were once the Ancient Benin Empire.
Our Bronze and Brass artworks are famous. Thank you! 🙏🇳🇬
Yes, saw your amazing nations's ancient metal works highlighted recently. An interesting story, a hard nut to crack for the colonialists because of the strong unity of the small kingdom used to defending itself well over centuries through superior tekne [technique=art in Ancient Greek]!
@@eeemotion thank you!
@Eno Media We wuz kangz
@Eno Media Look. You Africans have got stuff to be proud of. You don't need to make up lies. The Sumerians were not African. They were in the Middle East.
@Eno Media You're not making sense.
I repeat: Sumer is not in Africa and the Sumerians were not Africans.
I'm 4,000 years old and I forgot how to speak Sumerian because there was nobody else to talk to for so long, I hope this lady comes over for coffee or something 🤔😂
If you want to talk sumerian, just learn hungarian.
@@DarkSpace80 Wat? 😮
@@DarkSpace80are you serious? XD
she doesnt know Sumerian
and stop being a simp
You might want to study the connection between Sumerian and Hungarian. Shared vocabulary is currently 3000+ words long. Some basic words are the same in both languages (like nap meaning sun orIztenIsten meaning God or Ur meaning Lord). 51 out of 54 grammar rules are shared by both languages. Interesting connection...
Had no idea, that's fascinating.
@@skoodledoo Like most people in the world. Few people know that it was Hungarian linguists that noticed it and helped to decipher the Sumerian language. Funny thing is that even Sumer in Hungarian is pronounced exactly the same as in Sumerian. But if you study the history you will learn that when Semitic people conquered Sumer from the North, some Sumerians migrated to the Central Asia and became Scythians and took their language with them. They later were renamed Huns, but they kept the same lanugage and Hungarians (Magyars) descended directly from Huns and also got the same language. Thus the modern Hungarian is a direct evolution of the Sumerian language. This is the reason so many basic words and grammar are shared between Sumerian and Hungarian.
@@szobione Thanks for that, will look in to it! Hungarian is often overlooked by many.
@@skoodledoo Sure. Check this quote:
1870 - ARCHIBALD SAYCE, Professor of Oriental Studies in Oxford, deciphered the first Sumerian one language text and gave a linguistic analysis of the language. He used comparative linguistics to study different branches of the language. In the course of his research, he examined the relationship of the languages of the entire Turanian language family with the Sumerian language. He found the closest relationship to Sumerian in the Hungarian and Basque languages. He went to Hungary to learn the Hungarian language and also found Hungarian to be the most useful language to read the Sumerian language.
So, as you see, it's not even a new idea, but scholars of the past came up with it. In fact, Hungarian was used by the international linguists to decipher Sumerian language, since it is so similar phonetically, grammatically and in vocabulary.
You can real a whole list of quotes from scholars of the past 150 years who basically confirm this similarity. I am just a messenger of this idea and I am on even Hungarian.
Link: aleximreh.wordpress.com/2015/10/05/sumerian-language-hungarian-language/
You can also see this YT video to see how Hungarian is related to Hunnic, Scythian, Gaelic and Sumerian languages with some examples.
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@SPQSpartacus Yeah, cause there is a lot of similarities in all IE languages due to the fact they all come from 1 nostratic language. As for the Finish, it separated from Hungarian, or rather Scythian back 3600 years ago, but there are still many similar words with Hungarian, more with Ancient Hungarian. Based om my research over the past 5 years Hungarian is the closest to the original European language spoken before the end of the Ice Age. Basically, the core vocabulary is unchanged, that's why these basic words are the same as Sumerian. On the side note, Hungarian changed very little over 1000 years. I can take Hungarian chronicle from 12th century and understand it with modern Hungarian. Heck, you can even take modern carved script and translate the Hunnic grave inscriptions from 4th century and still get perfectly understandable Hungarian words. Same for the few Scythian texts we have. Take the same script and you get some consonants, provide modern Hiungarian vowels and you get Hungarian words. It is quite amazing that this particular language did not change much over the past 2000+ years.
Great stuff. I was trained in academic philosophy. I am currently researching 5thC Byzantium, the origins of Western jurisprudence, and generally find the physical struture of languages fascinating. Pictorial languages rock. I love your video.
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Crusader inquisition mentality, I admire your ignorance.
How do you not know the world's number 1 Sumerologist, Muazzez İlmiye Çığ? How can you not know?
The languages of the Sumerians belong to the Proto-Turkish language family. Sumerians are Proto-Turkish.
Words in Sumerian, Etruscan, Scythian and Ancient Egyptian languages and dialects are the same or similar to thousands of words used in Native American languages. Today, it is stated that the origins of these words are Persian, Hebrew or Latin. How do words that Native Americans have used for thousands of years become Hebrew, Latin, Scottish, Irish or Persian? The answer to this question is very simple.
Sumerians, Scythians and Etruscans transferred their languages and cultures to their geography. Sumerians gave many words to Hebrew, Arabic and Persian. Etruscans gave many words to Latin. Scythians (Scythians=Sakas= Saxons) transferred many words to Western Europe and the Scottish archipelago.
Native American languages, Scythian, Sumerian and Etruscan languages are in the PROTO-TURKISH language group.
For this reason, many words are the same or have great similarities between Native American languages, European languages and Middle Eastern languages.
Since the languages of these states are in the proto-Turkic language group, these nations are Proto-Turkish.
You can reach results very easily with analytical thinking.
Yes. This culture has a lot to do with Hungarian one. Actually, the oldest names have all a meaning in Hungarian language. And, if you want to find the roots of Ubaid civilizitation, just see the map of Carpathian basin. The firts towns were discovered by archeologist Zsófia Torma in 19th century in Tordos. 🇭🇺
Nope.
@@cacogenicist Which of mine statement are unbelievable to you?
@@zsoltfenyvesi1423all of them. Why do you post nationalistic nonsense under so many different names?
@@cacogenicist we wuz summerianz ..
Julija I love your channel! I have to admit that my knowledge of Sumerian language is limited to "LUGAL" ("King") and "NINDA" ("Bread"), and this is all because of my interest in Nesili, the language of the Hittites. Have you done a video on Nesili yet?
Lies
@@marcossealey8612 WTF!
@@gaufrid1956 FACTS over Feelings 💯
Fun fact: you can dissect "LUGAL" even further and add two new words to your vocabulary: LU (man) and GAL (great). It's written with those signs, so literally it means great man :)
a third word really stuck with me when i was leafing through a sumerian dictionary: zišurru, a ritual salt circle
Greetings from Egypt
U should make a coptic video
Agree. Coptic is the singular and mysterious language of the ancient Egyptians.
The channel ReligionForBreakfast actually just posted a really good video on Coptic a few weeks ago. It's really good.
You are brilliant, I really enjoy learning from you. Thank you very much.Lots of respect!
Sincere thanks and praise for your beautiful presentation of the history of the Summians and the theories that have been presented regarding their origin. I am writing an opinion as a professor of the cuneiform writings at the Faculty of Archeology of the University of Kufa. I have worked for more than twenty years in the field of archaeological work in the Iraqi General Authority for Antiquities and Heritage. I died during my studies and my knowledge of the results of excavations. Scientific archeology I can confirm that the Sumerians were the ones who started civilization in northern Iraq. They painted and expressed their fear of animals on the walls of caves. They discovered agriculture. They domesticated animals and trimmed stones. Because of the climatic conditions and their changes, they arrived in southern Iraq, bringing with them the slave civilization that was invented. In the north of Iraq, especially since the pottery of slaves was discovered in all regions of Iraq from north to south, this is first and second, the movement of the sons of Iraq from north to south due to the deterioration of living conditions, and the current situation confirms this.. Greetings to nice what was presented through this wonderful video .. Prof. Dr. Fatima Abbas Salman
You died?
@@griksrik1420 But my opinions still living and continuing.
They get kill be religion of killing and sex 👉
@@samyako9701 yup and it is christian and zorostriansm.
Your theory is interesting but still only a theory.
Sir Leonard Woolley, an archaeology professor, who spent his entire researcher’s life (close to 60 years) with Mesopotamian excavations, said:
"Since 1939 I keep requesting and urging the Hungarian Academy of Sciences to send me a Hungarian linguist. The Sumerian language - despite its 7,000 years of history - shows amazing similarities with the modern Hungarian language. Based on my researches, I know for a fact that - for example, 56 of the specialty of the Sumerian grammar shows 53 stunning parity with the contemporary Hungarian language. The Turkish language is the second closest language to the Sumerian, and there are 34 similarities found with the foregoing. While the Turkish stands on "nephew" degree in terms of similarity with the Sumerian, we can say that the Hungarian is the SIMILAR and the direct descendant of the Sumerian language. More than 6,000 basic Sumerian root words matching up with Hungarian words. "
Mind you, Professor Sir Leonard Woolley later came to Budapest, where he learned the Hungarian language privately, because the Hungarian Academy of Sciences never supported and appreciated his efforts. As a matter of fact, the Institute denounced him, saying, " We will never confirm that the Hungarian language have anything to do with the Sumerian.”
My father grew up in an area of Western PA where everyone in the area spoke a mixture of Slavic languages. He spoke Ukrainian, Russian, Slavic, etc. He always said that one of the hardest to learn was Hungarian. So, he wasn't very verbal in Hungarian.
*Beny:* _"..., the Institute denounced him, saying, " We will never confirm ...'"_
How _awful!_ How arrogant and short sighted to have no interest in their roots.
@@KenJackson_US
The official Hungarian bodies have denied it for 150 years. The Japanese have not understood the Hungarian mentality for at least 100 years, the Romanians and the Indo-Europeans rub their hands in joy, archaeogenetics and archeology tell the truth...
@@KenJackson_US
"Grover S. Krantz: Magyarság (Hungarians), the founding people of Europe's culture
Grover S. Krantz (1931-2002), a world-renowned American anthropologist and professor at Washington State University, recognizes in his work "The Geographical Development of European Languages" that Hungarians, who have been treated as Europe's stepchildren until now, are the founders of Europe's culture.
According to him, the u.n. "Indo-European languages" developed very late in Europe. That is why 30% of their vocabulary is not of "Indo-European" origin, and there are no "Indo-European" river names on the early maps of Europe.
We are more interested in the following sentence: "...so the Greek language was formed in its current location in 6500 BC, and the Celtic language in Ireland in 3500 BC. The antiquity of the Hungarian language in the Carpathian Basin is similarly surprising; I find that its origins lead to the Mesolithic, preceding the Stone Age."
Furthermore: "At least on one important point, the theory of people's migration is the opposite of the previous theorem. It is generally believed that the Hungarians of the Urals lived in the 9th century. century, they moved into the Carpathian basin from an eastern area. I find that all groups speaking the Uralic language spread from Hungary, in a much earlier age, in the opposite direction."
Grover S. Krantz, The Geographical Formation of European Languages. (Ősi Örökségünk Alapítvány, Budapest, 2000) Original title and publisher of the work: Geographical Development of European Languages Peter Lang Publishing Inc. New York 1988. Translated by: Imre Kálmán"
This book has not been refuted by anyone since 1988, rather everyone has remained silent. In recent years, archaeogenetics has confirmed that Krantz's theory is correct!
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@@benyovszkyistvan408: _"...so the Greek language was formed in its current location in 6500 BC, ..."_
The _"current location"_ (Greece?) didn't exist in 6500 BC. And Greek certainly didn't exist before at least Sumer in the early third millennium BC.
Hi Juli, I just have discovered your channel and I LOVE it. Thank you for the tons of hours of research implied in your videos! Awesome synthesis of topics, you can get a general picture of a language in just 10 minutes or so, congrats! I would love you to make a video about Hungarian language. I am from Argentina, but my parents emigrated from Hungary after WWII. That´s why my mother tongue is Hungarian, and in Argentina we speak Spanish, so you may imagine that when I attended school for the first time, I realized the huge difference between these languages. I think that, as in the case of many other agglutinative languages, it is very hard to learn Hungarian as a second language. One of the most difficult subjects to explain to a non Hungarian speaking person is the 18 grammar cases of the Hungarian language. I use them properly, but I cannot explain its tules, that´s why it would be awesome that you make that video and present this language that I love, but lately rarely speak here in Argentina!!! Thank you very muy again, really enjoyed your work!!!
Thank you 🙏🏻 I’m very pleased you enjoy my videos! As for Hungarian, well, I would like to make videos on every language out there so one day it’s gonna be the turn of Hungarian. I don’t know when though
@@JuLingo Hi Greetings enjoy your channel on Sumerian language.What I would like to know if modernday Iraqis have Sumerian names among them ancient that is with Arabic surnames e.g. Tiamat Ally (Dragon Lady),Marduk Mohammed,Enki Safraz,Enlil Baksh or some other name I assume.Well you can't call a person Mr. or Mrs. Pazuzu because you might be insulting them however Pazuzu is the head demon of Sumerian Mythology.And Anzu if anyone is named after the birdman Anzu the deity with the dreadlocks.Just inquiring.
Gabor Gyerek May I suggest please read my comment which is backed up by evidence that the Hungarian language does have it's roots from the Sumerian language.
Hi, @@hunguy3280! Thank you for your input. I have grown up listening to my grand parents´ stories about the link between Sumerian and Hungarian... I am not an expert in linguistics but it always seemed to me an exaggeration of Hungarian pride (my grandfather even stated that Tutankhamun spoke in Hungarian)... I may be wrong, but I do not see so much similarities between the languages, although it would be awesome for Hungarians!
@@JuLingo
1857 - MÁTYÁS FLÓRIÁN, linguist and a member of the Hungarian Academy of Science, who was in correspondence with OPPERT, stated: “I gained from Oppert the treasure of the words (Sumerian) and called his attention to the fact that they resembled the words of the ancient Hungarian language.”
1860 - JULES OPPERT emphasized the relationship of the Sumerian and Hungarian languages.
1860 - The German linguists and professors at the Congress of Kiel announced that the only correct name for Mesopotamia’s Turanian ancient populace was “Sumerian”.
1870 - ARCHIBALD SAYCE, Professor of Oriental Studies in Oxford, deciphered the first Sumerian one language text and gave a linguistic analysis of the language. He used comparative linguistics to study different branches of the language. In the course of his research, he examined the relationship of the languages of the entire Turanian language family with the Sumerian language. He found the closest relationship to Sumerian in the Hungarian and Basque languages. He went to Hungary to learn the Hungarian language and also found Hungarian to be the most useful language to read the Sumerian language.
Thank you for sharing!
How on earth do we know the proper pronounciation of Sumerian words?
Thanks for the informative video, Julie!
We don’t. It’s just our best guess
@@JuLingo I thought that you addressed this issue in your clip: We know (something about) Sumerian pronunciation via the Akkadian primers / dictionaries. Loved your video, by the way!
@@JuLingo It's not all guesswork.
1. Sometimes we have detailed descriptions of the pronunciation of an ancient language written by its native speakers as with Sanskrit, Ancient Greek and Latin.
2. Sometimes, we are given non-technical comments as with Cicero's comment that the final -S in Vulgar Latin had become a barely audible aspiration or his comment about a court of law laughing at a Greek witness because of his inability to pronounce an F.
3. Sometimes we have internal evidence, e.g. a closed syllable before the Greek word idenai (to know) was always heavy, hinting at the loss of an initial consonant. The word was widenai, cognate with English "wit", Latin "videre", Sanskrit "vid".
4. The form that a word takes in related languages. (See 3.)
5. Poetic usage can help. It can be very revealing to observe which words rhyme with each other or alliterate with each other.
6. The way that sounds have evolved in the daughter languages or other closely related modern languages.
7. Dictionaries and lists of difficult words, such as those made by the Akkadians for the Sumerian language.
8. And sometimes we just have to make an educated guess.
except we don't know the Akkadian pronunciation either. And even Sanskrit, ancient Greek and Latin we're to some extent guessing how it really sounded. Just think of US vs UK English, you couldn't reconstruct that just from writing.
@@HaraldinChina The Sanskrit and Ancient Greek grammarians left detailed descriptions of the sounds of their languages. In such cases and with Latin, if we could travel back in time, we would be able to converse quite well with native speaker. With Akkadian we are less sure of minute details but we would be able to make ourselves understood. Sumerian is a worst case scenario but we at least have some idea of how it sounded.
You say, "Just think of US vs UK English, you couldn't reconstruct that just from writing." This is a hypothetical and very unreal scenario. English orthography can be very misleading but not all of the time. We would also have the evidence of all of the English words borrowed by other languages. These alone would allow us to reconstruct the pronunciation of many words quite accurately.
Great video! I believe that more studies should be done to reconstruct the original language of ancient Sumeria for the future of humanity!!
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Turkish is already here. Max Muller, Rawlinson learned Turkish to study ancient history.
The language of ancient Sumeria is much older than the mainstream arqueollgy accepts, I believe that it's around 250000 years old!
lets go forward by going backwards in the fog ..no thank you I live in 2022 A.D. as do my children ... your belief is your own .
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1873 - LENORMAND formulated the first Sumerian Grammar and also made a thorough comparative study of the grammar and vocabulary of the Ural-Altaic languages. By so doing, he proved the relationship between the Ural-Altaic languages and Sumerian.
1873 - EDOUARD SAYOUS, a French historian proved the linguistic comparisons of Lenormand. In 1869 and 1896, he was in Hungary and he learned Hungarian. In acknowledgement of his work, he was made a member of the Hungarian Kisfaludy Literary Guild.
1875 - FRANÇOIS C. LENORMAND strongly advocated that the language that discovered writing was most closely related to Hungarian. Therefore he traveled again to Hungary to learn the language more thoroughly. In his book “The Ancient Language of the Chaldeans and the Turanian Languages” from phonetics to the noun suffixes, almost entirely relying on the logic and pronunciation of the Hungarian language, he continued his research into the comparison between the Sumerian and the Turanian languages. He found that the Sumerian phonetic rules were based on the Hungarian.
1875 - HEINRICH GELZER, a Swiss linguist, in an article entitled: Das Ausland, stated that the Sumerian noun and verb suffixes were identical to those of the Turanian languages.
Specificially Turkish because when we talk about Turanian it is so vast. There are al lot of languages like chinese but it is specificially Turkish...
Brilliant! Well done.
@@seydadogan2259 No. mainly Ugric language. Hungarian and Finnish for example.
"black head" means black hair. Koreans to this day, when we say we are getting a haircut, it literally says "we are cutting head". This is pretty consistent for most Altaic language groups, which excludes the Chinese. Sumerians are from the Pamir Mountains. Modern day Kazakhstan's capital Astana have the same astrological based city planning equal to Egypt to Mesopotamia.
11:05 That’s interesting! It looks like “lugal” which means “king” is made from “lu” which means “person” and “gal” which means “great!” So king would literally be “great person!”
And 'great kings' is person-great great-great, lol.
Yup! It should probably be noted that "Lugal" isn't quite as simple as the word "King" in English, and actually indicates a king who doesn't possess holy power over the city, contrasted to God-Kings, who were more common earlier in the history of Mesopotamia.
Not exactly great person. "Person" is just a shell (your material self) holding your light. LU originally meant light.
The Latin word "persona" means mask or actor. So, more likely it becomes the great actor.
@@Jerrel.A Yes, we all know that. But acting out somebody else is not your own self. Hence all actors are cheats. The only legitimate acting in the past was acting out the role of the Sun and Earth, like in folk dancing, or making sacrifice at Solstice turning points during the year. The Greco-Latin world became more and more profane and dumb. And it got worse today.
I really admire your level of knowledge on language and history. Awesome job!
Proto-Uralic (Finno-Ugric) is missing in the Human Language Families map. I have seen articles about the relations between Proto-Uralic and Sumerian languages. Like the use of suffixes and simular words.
But I have not digged any deeper in to this. But maybe somebody that read this comment has. Also maybe known if this could be true or not.
You can read Polat Kaya about Sumerian-Turkish Kinship. Plenty of info and coomon words between them.
Turkish is NOT a Finno- Ugric lanquage. Native Finnish speaking - one of the Finno-Ugric lanquages - Finnish Christian woman, Miss Marjaana Nivala, from Finland, the land of my ancestors.
@@marjaananivala3150 Turkish is younger than Finnish or Ugric languages, but its evolved from ugric.
I dont care much with linguisticism, but as far as I know, there was only 1 nation which claimed themselves the descendants of the builders of the tower of Babylon in the )th century, when nobody else no know nothing about the sumers, and the Babilonians are always the evil side in the bible, so, its not that attractive to a Christian nation to be a descendant of the evils XD
Just discovered your vidéos for few days ago and I am seduced by your knowledge and you! Many thanks for what you tell and being so natural !
Спасибо за материал про такой интересный язык!
(правда, я не могла не заметить одну деталь: персы заимствовали не клинопись, а саму идею клинописи - первое письмо персов уже было буквенно-слоговым, и никаких иероглифов)
Какие персы? Что ты мелишь?
But persian were very powerfull and defeat all Semitics for 1000 years before islam
@@UserUser-wh9jk Leave your hate speech in Rassia.
Это не так. И у аккадцев, и у хеттов и персов была письменная система схожая с современной японской. Это когда одновременно используют и иероглифы (для записи корней) и слоговые знаки (для записи приставок и окончаний). Собственно и в самом шумерском применялись слоговые знаки для глагольных аффиксов и служебных слов. В персидском "иероглифов" было меньше всего да, но они были. Нпр, для слова царь 𐏋"кшаятья" (санскр. кшатрия), которое позже превратится в "шох", "шах".
собираюсь уходить в лес от цифрового концлагерного мира будущего, где нет более жизни для нормальных людей, где нет свободы, где за людей всё решает искусственный интеллект, как жить, сколько жить, что кушать, что пить, сколько спать, и чем дышать.
в лесу мне понадобится клинопись, т.к. её проще всего будет наносить на камни и главное вырезать на деревьях.
но для этого мне ещё над подумать над универсальным суперлегким в усвоении языком и так чтобы он был идеален как с точки зрения золотого сечения и других универсальных математических принципов, так и с точки зрения совпадения звучания слов с как можно большим числом ныне существующих языков.
поэтому присоединяюсь к вашим словам благодарности(стырил к себе несколько птичеследиков из ролика)
Rovás irásunk nyelvünk nagyon közel áll a sumerhoz☝️🇭🇺🍷
Thank you! Very interesting! 💥💥💥
Thank you my friend ☺️
Julie is the best. I love here language videos very informative. Tankz Julie 😀
Surprisingly, there are many similarities with the Turkish language and the mythological elements are also very similar. It seems that there were shamans in Sumer.
Very interesting
Who ever came to akkadia copied and adopted it's language and it's first record of invasion is around 1600BCE and they were most probably African who came first to turkey and then to sumeria then came Persians most probably Hyksos after wards third wave was that of Scythian who brought iron weaponry along with them and rest is the history
All languages come from 1 single language. Fact. I believe that our cultures go back MUCH farther than we have been taught. Gobeckli Tepi, 12,000 years ago. And I believe we have unearthed a few more even older civilizations in Turkey. Our past is much deeper than any academics books. We have been around for many MILLIONS of years!
It's hungarian, the aliens language.
@@DarkSpace80 FUK hungarian language.....
The first language is considered Adamic. which was some form of ancient Hebrew.
Very interesting. Comment about Arratta. We know the locaction of the Aratta, because in mentioned in Sumerian history with precise instruction how to travel from Sumer to Aratta. It was a land between Iran, Turkey, Kurdistan and Armenia known latter as Urartu. Second comment is that many of the languages from Iran, Kurdistan and Armenia disappeared after invasion od Indo-European tribes (Iranians and Armenians) about 2000 BC. I thin here we look for te homeland of Sumerians who probably was imigrannts or invaders to earlier cities od Ubaid culture and finally took control of the teritoro of previous Ubaid culture. Last interesting thing are cases. Sumerians have cases that are present in Hungarian language (Locative 1 and Locative 2). Maybe there was some family of aglutative languages from Iran and Caucasus region. Some of tribes migrated north and started Fion-Ugric languages. Other people were assimiliated by semitic Akkadians or Indoeuropean Iranians, Armenians and Khurds. Anyway today Farsi (Iranian) language have melody lttle similiar to Hungarian. Maybe this is only coincidence but maybe is a mark of assimiliation some aglutative language autochtons by Iranians.
Longin Zaczek Thank you for at least mentioning the Hungarian language. I will write further a little bit later, please read my comment.
@@hunguy3280 OK I will be waiting - I was writing about hypotetical aglutative family of languages, but this is only hipotesis for now. Hungarian is the best living example of such language.
@@longinzaczek5857 This is the bit that I was referring to: Many researches in the past tried strenuously to compare the Sumerian language to Indo-European or to the Hebrew or other Semite languages just like JuLingo did in this video, but they all failed to solve this mystery of the Sumerian language, from the messages of the hundreds of Stone - tablets. In the end they had to admit that this can only be related to an ancient Scythian language, which then means that one cannot deny the relationship or identity to the Hungarian language. It was Oppert the first Researcher or Scientist, who realized the connection of the Sumerian language to the Scythian writings. A Hungarian priest by the name of Rónay Jácint approached both Oppert and Lenormant that they should both try the Hungarian language, to solve this mystery. At a later stage Haribald Sayce an English Sumerian researcher also joined this Scientific group. J Oppert, in 1858 stated that the grammatical relationship of the Sumerian writings have a strong relationship to the present Hungarian language. Lenomant was also of the same view in his writings reasserting that the ancient Sumerian language is the closest relative to the Hungarian language. Further to this, according to Dr. Zakar András out of 100 Hungarian words, 63 would have Sumerian origins. Some examples of Sumerian words to Hungarian are as follows: Isten = Isten= God, Ur = Ur = Sir/Mr./Master/Almighty, Ama = Anya = Mother, Adda = Atya = Father, Es = Eszik = Eat, Dál = Tál = Plate, Gada = Gatya = Trousers, Kapa = Kapa = Hoe, Maskim - Macska = Cat, Muunga = Munka = Work/Labour etc...
@@hunguy3280 Thank you - I am not the lauguage specialist, I have just reda a little when looking for language connections to guess how first migration of Indo-Europeans could go. Of course I was checking neighbouring languages (including Finno-Ugric family), because of possible cross-language references. One possible hypotesis is that after last ice age different group of people migrated from Middle East to North. First agglutative language nations, then Indo-European language family people. About 3000-2000 Indo Europeans spreadded across Southern Russia and Central Asia steppes dividing aglutative languages into several parts (thanks to horses nad carriages/charriots). Of course different tribes often mixed an melted together and also borrow some words. Therefore it is possible that there are some traces/fingerprints of aglutative languages in some Indo European languages like Scythian languages. Usually grammar is the strongest evidence of language connection. Similiar words are weaker evidence connections because words could be borrowed between neighbouring languages.
Longin Zaczek Herewith is my promised comment. Probably you already read it. Many researches in the past tried strenuously to compare the Sumerian language to Indo-European or to the Hebrew or other Semite languages just like JuLingo did in this video, but they all failed to solve this mystery of the Sumerian language, from the messages of the hundreds of Stone - tablets. In the end they had to admit that this can only be related to an ancient Scythian language, which then means that one cannot deny the relationship or identity to the Hungarian language. It was Oppert the first Researcher or Scientist, who realized the connection of the Sumerian language to the Scythian writings. A Hungarian priest by the name of Rónay Jácint approached both Oppert and Lenormant that they should both try the Hungarian language, to solve this mystery. At a later stage Haribald Sayce an English Sumerian researcher also joined this Scientific group. J Oppert, in 1858 stated that the grammatical relationship of the Sumerian writings have a strong relationship to the present Hungarian language. Lenomant was also of the same view in his writings reasserting that the ancient Sumerian language is the closest relative to the Hungarian language. Further to this, according to Dr. Zakar András out of 100 Hungarian words, 63 would have Sumerian origins. Some examples of Sumerian words to Hungarian are as follows: Isten = Isten= God, Ur = Ur = Sir/Mr./Master/Almighty, Ama = Anya = Mother, Adda = Atya = Father, Es = Eszik = Eat, Dál = Tál = Plate, Gada = Gatya = Trousers, Kapa = Kapa = Hoe, Maskim - Macska = Cat, Muunga = Munka = Work/Labour etc...
I am in the early stages of studying anthropology, based on a real-world experience that has perplexed and excited me. This experience has taken me almost direct to Mesopotamia. This video was full of terrific perspectives that add both depth and mystery to my exploration. Julie has a wonderful ability to present information that is otherwise complex, simply and rationally.
The Sumerians have zero genetic link to European. Study all your like. This wasn't ancient Egypt. They were never conquered by Europeans. They were conquered by Semetic populations. Who also has zero genetic link with Europeans. Enjoy you search😀
There are interesting similarities between Sumerian and Turkish languages such as:
1. Both agglutinative languages
2. Grammarly, the sentence contains subject in the beginning and verb at the end
3. Consonance in words
4. No distinction between male and female personal pronouns
5. More than four hundred words in common with present day Turkish i.e. iri, duri, ikki. men etc.
Sumerian Dingir and turkic Tengir sounds so similar as well ,how they call god
When i start to read about academical papers and new words of Sumerian language, i am shocking with the similitaries. as i learned until now, Turkish and Turkic languages are directly the continuum of Kiengir aka Sumerian language.
wovals are a-e-ı-i-o-ö-u-ü this is also same in Finnish and Hungarian.
kar gışı - Turkish "kargaşa" means kaos
Smr. kabkagag / Tr. kapkacak = this is a common word for pot, pan, bowl, pottery etc. kitchen stuff. this is a deadly sample that morpologia totally supports it. I think Eng. Cup comes from Tr. kap. Tr. Dip=Deep etc. also in english there are hundreds of Turkish org. words. Turkish-Celtic
Smr. dug-gan - tukannu = bag / Tr. Dükkan - Tükan = small shopping magazin(it is a small magazine to buy bread, yogurt etc. basic things)
anna - Tr. anne - means mother
Smr. ul-a, ul-la = with joy, joyfully Tr. ile = ( with)
Smr. ul =joy, happiness, pleasure - Tr. ol = to be - usage- be happy = mutlu ol. ol and ul as eng. "be".
Smr. agar = heavy Tr. Ağır = heavy
Smr. dingir - tengir - kengir = Tr. old Tengri new Tanrı = God
Smr. gişig - Tr. eşik aka. kapı = door - entrance
Smr. men and Zae = Tr. Ben(me) Sen(you)
Smr. Temir = Tr. Demir = Iron
Smr ai = Tr. ay = Eng. moon
Smr. ab = Tr. eb/ev = eng house, home.
Smr. gur = Tr. vur = Eng. hit
Smr. gid = Tr. git = Eng. go, release
Smr. yir = tr. yer =Eng. country, place, earth
Smr. tab = Tr. yap = Eng. do
Smr. jarık = Tr. Yarık = Eng. slit, rift
Smr. tapa =Tr. tapa or tıpa = Eng. the thing that used to close the head of bottle or stg. stopper, plug. same usage!
There is no such thing called coincidence between these two languages.
Today Turkiye's turkish lang and other Turkic languages have many differences on phonetics. for ex. Tr. yol = col in Kırgız Turkish. In Summerian it is "Jol." Eng. way, path.
Smr. jarım = Tr. yarım = Eng. the half, the half of stg.
Smr. Jün = Tr. Yün = Eng. wool
There are serious phonetic deformations on letters as b-v / gu-u / gu-du/ gi-ti/ yi-i/yas-cas/ yu-tu/ t-y/ d-t/ y-d/ etc.
All researches are made by Eu or Us researchers. We need to make a detailed research includes the whole Turkic languages. and i think Sumerian language will be translated faster.
As you noticed that these words are used in daily life. i mean main words which are not taken from somewhere. Whoever we call Turkic are directly their grandsons...
and hundreds of words are the same by root that no time to write here. I think this language can be root of Turkish lang. and effected "naturally" many other langs. there are still thousands of untranslated tablets to learn about their culture.
And urartus, hattians were using this kind of agglutinative language. Turks didnt come to Anatolia in 10. century. There are turkish influence B.C. 2500 in and around Anatolia as Turik, Törük, Türik, Türkis, Turukkus, Turuks, Tükri, Turk-ur/Tuk-ir (Turuk-Uruk/ ur-Uruk). I think someone trying to kick out Turks from mesopotamian and Anatolian history. :))
you can check it yourself with this doc. and a Turkish vocabulary.
cdli.mpiwg-berlin.mpg.de/articles/cdlp/3.0.pdf
The Sumerians are the Kurds ancestor especially Kelhori feyli Kurds indoeuropeans Indo-Iranians brunch
Look at similarities between Kurdish and Sumerians language and compaire with Semitic language
1. Gilgamesh Sumerians = Kele gamesh Kurdish = Hero Bull english= Al thaur Al batal Semitic.
2. Uruk Sumerians = Hur yek or Xur yek Kurdish= Sun one english ☀️1= Shams wahid Semitic.
3 Ur Sumerians = Hur or Xur Kurdish ☀️= Sun english = Shams semetic
4. Bira Sumerians = Bira Kurdish = Brother english= Akhi Semitic
5. Bapilga Sumerians = Bapira Kurdish = grandfather english = Aljad Semitic
6. Chia Sumerians = Çia Kurdish = mountain english = Aljabal Semitic
7. Sur Sumerians = Sur Kurdish = Red english = Sur Indoeuropeans = Ahmar Semitic
8. Hesht Sumerians = Heşt Kurdish 8= eight english 8= Thamanya Semitic
9. Baran Sumerians = Baran Kurdish = Rain english = Matar Semitic
10. Ji Sumerians = Jê Kurdish= Place english = Makan Semitic
11. Dar Sumerians = Dar Kurdish = Tree english 🌳= Shajarah Semitic
12. Diviser Sumerians = Niviser Kurdish = Author english = Katib Semitic
13. An Sumerians = Nan Kurdish = Bread english = Khubz Semitic
14. Ard Sumerians = Ard or arz Kurdish = Erth english = Arz Semitic
15. Ab zu Sumerians = Av ze Kurdish = River water english= maa al nahr Semitic
16. Apin Sumerians = Asin Kurdish = Iron english = Hadid Semitic
17. Arazu Sumerians = Arazu Kurdish = Pray english = salat Semitic
18. Ashukani Sumerians = Sarekani Kurdish = wtaer source english = Ras alain Semitic
Etc
Would love to hear your opinion of the Harappan (Indus Valley) language 🤔
Would love to explore it, but as there’s not that much to explore. It’s not even deciphered. Way too mysterious
@@JuLingo Yeah they were a fascinating people, even their bricks n streets were regulated to 4:2:1 ratio. Hope 1 day someone finds a way to crack their script.
My high school history teacher had written his own history text book and it began by saying: "History begins at Sumer."
That's actually the title of a book by Samuel Noah Kramer who was one of the most renowned Sumerologists of the mid 20th century.
Except DNA science and archeology clearly refute that claim. Simple example: Gobekli Tepi, which predates Sumer by at least 5,000 years. It would be more accurate to say "the history of human language begins at Sumer" but the video here partially refutes that, too.
@@taterkaze9428 nah man, it would be more accurate to understand that history doesn't mean the presence of human life, but the recounting of the presence of human life. It doesn't begin when human life begins, but when human life begins to be recorded. Of which DNA science has nothing to say, mind you.
@@fivetimesyo "recorded". I am sorry but writing doesn't automatically make history more valid. Division of pre-history and history is outdated and was used many times to dismiss a lot of societies as "uncivilised". It shouldn't be used anymore
@@KateeAngel Writing is important. It is a great help in building the history and civilization. Without writing you could build very few histories.
Thank you Julie. As always your videos are informative and very interesting. Best wishes
12:09 The map legend says "Human Language Families" Just curious if there is another type of language families we are tracking that I am unaware of ;)
Cat language family. That video will be presented by Gabby
Greetings from Iraq 🇮🇶 (Mesopotamia)
You were Yemeni
It is truly remarkable to witness the dedicated efforts toward the revival of our ancient world's culture. I deeply appreciate and support this endeavor, and I extend my heartfelt best wishes to India, a nation rooted in the eternal culture.
But this is an Iraqi civilization and not an Indian one
@@Kh11_711 The Indus Valley civilization; the earliest in India and one of the earliest in the world, had links to Sumeria.
@@eekee6034 Sumer from Mesopotamia 🇮🇶 Where humanity originated, so it will definitely have a connection to the world.
@@Kh11_711 Cute, but I mean there's evidence for trade links at the time. :)
@@eekee6034 Yes, of course, all the old civilizations had common links.
Po izgovoru nekih slova, dok si citala sumerska, bih rekao da si iz Srbije. Svaka čast na videu, odlično je !😊
Julie, thank you for your enlightening and interesting programs, covering so many interesting languages. I am curious, however, why you have not included Arabic. It is an unusual language in that over two thousand years ago it could express anything required today, which made it unnecessary to undergo as much change as other languages. What prompted it to become so expressive so early? Thank you.
Arabic isn't the most early iteration of .. Arabic. First, it was the language spoken wit Hieroglyphs. TzjRT was an ancient Egy word for Willow Tree. شجره .. The language of Hieroglyphs is similar to Akkadian; the educated among both populat'ns could communicate with each other, learned both lingos. I don't know the answer to your question, nor your lingo, alas.. But I wanted to point out that Arabic didn't materialize out of thin air 2000 y. ago.. Humanity had bean working on it for awhile. :D
@@margo1628 so interesting, and what about Aramaeic, the "Latin" of the near East, or about the Phoenician alphabeths (aleph, beith, ...)...it is just overwhelming, so exciting...
one could almost forget about actual "realities".
I kindly accept the sympathetic voice and the even sympathetic look of the woman crafting this clip, and even more because there are -even confessed!- errors within it!!
A fat hug to every individual, which donated donates her his time as well as energy into deciphering these ancient symbols and letters ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
I am not Julie but one reason for not getting to Arabic yet is because it is being uncovered almost AS WE SPEAK, by MacDonald and al-Jallad and van Putten amongst others.
I had an edit reversed in Wikipedia, for posting their findings there in 2016ish (which is a big reason I haven't done anything there since then).
These three men whom I've noted have found that Quranic Arabic is a Nabataean-like language very close to Hismaic and Safaitic, mutually-intelligible so more like dialects of that language. Arabic's history as a language would then stem back to about, oh, 100 BC along Jordan and the northwest Hijaz.
Before that, it gets a little murkier, because these Arabs weren't literate before 100 BC; elsewhere, Arabians spoke other Semitic languages which were not "Arabic" as we know it. Taymanitic seems to be closer to northwest Semitic tongues like Aramaic and Hebrew. Hasaitic was its own thing, to the east. South Arabia spoke Hadrami and Sabaean; Oman was entirely illiterate but it seems that the "modern south arabian" languages like Mehri descend from whatever they were speaking and not writing.
A very diverse place, ancient Arabia . . .
Me gusta las lenguas antiguas. Gracias por este gran video!
A mi también
Thank you for this great video.
Is the "eme gir" related to the Magiar?
You know a lot and expose it clearly, so I can learn it easily. Thank you.
Happy you found it helpful :)