Regarding your misplays point, my most common misplay is thinking I have exactly enough money to pull off my master plan, but when it comes down to the end of the plan I am $1 or $2 short! Sometimes by miscalculation, sometimes by the game state changing subtly but unexpectedly. I have started trying to plan for having $2 extra (or whatever depending on the game) so that if something happens in the game state that costs me a dollar it doesn't completely ruin my plan. Yes I am not being 100% efficient with my resources but at least I have built in some redundancy to the plan.
I understand this is directed more at competitive gamers but I do find it sad that some people have to look at strategy guides on how to win before they'll even consider playing a game for the first time. For me, part of the fun of playing a new game is working out how things work. I love getting distracted by the shiny stuff too as that stuff is just begging to be explored but I don't have to win to have a good time. In fact, I would rather go off exploring and let somebody else get the buzz of winning so I know they'll play the game again and I can explore it further.
I'm looking them diagonally in order not to learn best strategy but just to learn if game is broken or already solved, like it happened with Forest Shuffle, or if the game is totally luck dependent, or if good strategies are ruining the fun of the game, like Stone Age.
This might be more for the BGA players out there, but whenever I lose big or I see a score and say "Wow, that's really good", I go to the scoring breakdown that BGA provides and compare my score with the winning player's score. You'll be able to see what may be the weak part(s) of your game or you might get an idea of a new strategy to try out next time.
Hey Roy, great video! That said I kept thinking there are people in my group that I would ever want to watch this video. It could becomes the class Analysis Paralysis 101. 🤣 Still you did a great job of distilling down what so many great players are already doing in games.
One of the things I try to think about for games with actions and points is try to assign how many points a particular action will yield me. Simple example would be worker placement, if I go to this spot, I will get X points, and calculate ways I can combo and chain my workers to get higher than X points.
Excellent topic and thanks a lot for your take... ...although I found it a bit frustrating. I'd love to see a back and forth between you and other people around this topic. Of course being rested is necessary for board games but it is for computer science or rock climbing too. I'd love to hear more about strategies from people who have played thousands of games.
Terrific video, Roy! I would love to watch a video (or a series of them) discussing what meta strategies are for different games. This would help with tip #7 (play counter to meta).
One of the best things you can know about a game? KNOW THE RULES... If you know the rules of a game. If you know how to exploit the rules. You can win a majority of the time.
I may be in the minority here. But if you follow these tips, then I don’t want to play games with you. People who read up on strategies and especially cards before they sit down at the table. Yeah, no thanks. You’re just way to focused on the competition rather than the game and the social interaction. “Don’t make mistakes. Even the little things” - this feeds AP. “Focus on the game. Don’t get distracted” - this feeds alfagaming. “Learn all the cards before you play the game” - this would take all the fun out of a game for me.
Nice list! #10: Personally, I sometimes find it calm and relaxing down here in the weeds and looking at the shiny objects. (Actually, focusing too much on an element at a particular moment, resulting in losing focus on the big picture, can be my biggest hindrance). #6: I generally prefer simple misplays to complex misplays, as the latter cost too much time and energy. 😉
Winning board games is about knowing that in game A if cards X and Y are in play you should bid a lot for X and not for Y. Not about sleeping more or whatever generic stuff can be put on a lsit like this. A particular list of specific info could be made for a particular game (not sure many people would becinterested unless the game is supercpopular and quite Spike-ish) (I would provider i play that game). But this is just "peoplexlike top 10 lista ill manager to squeeze an extra one this week"
I'm not good at any board game. But I also prefer exploring new board games to mastering old ones. If I was to master a game, it might be go. But for that I'm not intelligent enough. And for chess I'm not willing to learn enough and also am not intelligent enough. I hate calculating in games.
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The best and biggest win for me is teaching my family a new game really well the first time, so they enjoy the game and want to play again.
Regarding your misplays point, my most common misplay is thinking I have exactly enough money to pull off my master plan, but when it comes down to the end of the plan I am $1 or $2 short! Sometimes by miscalculation, sometimes by the game state changing subtly but unexpectedly.
I have started trying to plan for having $2 extra (or whatever depending on the game) so that if something happens in the game state that costs me a dollar it doesn't completely ruin my plan. Yes I am not being 100% efficient with my resources but at least I have built in some redundancy to the plan.
I understand this is directed more at competitive gamers but I do find it sad that some people have to look at strategy guides on how to win before they'll even consider playing a game for the first time. For me, part of the fun of playing a new game is working out how things work. I love getting distracted by the shiny stuff too as that stuff is just begging to be explored but I don't have to win to have a good time. In fact, I would rather go off exploring and let somebody else get the buzz of winning so I know they'll play the game again and I can explore it further.
I'm looking them diagonally in order not to learn best strategy but just to learn if game is broken or already solved, like it happened with Forest Shuffle, or if the game is totally luck dependent, or if good strategies are ruining the fun of the game, like Stone Age.
At 1st I thought this was about winning board game giveaways or something. lol. Should have put an "at" in the title.
As did I.
Also me.
I didn't at first, but rereading it after seeing your comment, I can see how lol
I thought so too! Lol
Even if it was not the intent... the comment section has da powa to have Tom Vasel do give aways! Just keep the comments coming!
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This might be more for the BGA players out there, but whenever I lose big or I see a score and say "Wow, that's really good", I go to the scoring breakdown that BGA provides and compare my score with the winning player's score. You'll be able to see what may be the weak part(s) of your game or you might get an idea of a new strategy to try out next time.
same!
Loved seeing Alien Frontiers in the first segment. So underrated. Good video. Great tips!
Hey Roy, great video! That said I kept thinking there are people in my group that I would ever want to watch this video. It could becomes the class Analysis Paralysis 101. 🤣 Still you did a great job of distilling down what so many great players are already doing in games.
Get Gud!! 😁
I want to Win free board games. How do I sign up? The tips weren’t clear
One of the things I try to think about for games with actions and points is try to assign how many points a particular action will yield me. Simple example would be worker placement, if I go to this spot, I will get X points, and calculate ways I can combo and chain my workers to get higher than X points.
I dont need to win.
I want to have fun playing.
Excellent topic and thanks a lot for your take...
...although I found it a bit frustrating. I'd love to see a back and forth between you and other people around this topic. Of course being rested is necessary for board games but it is for computer science or rock climbing too.
I'd love to hear more about strategies from people who have played thousands of games.
Terrific video, Roy! I would love to watch a video (or a series of them) discussing what meta strategies are for different games. This would help with tip #7 (play counter to meta).
When I saw the title of this video, I thought it meant how to win games like as prizes at giveaways and stuff 😆
One of the best things you can know about a game?
KNOW THE RULES...
If you know the rules of a game. If you know how to exploit the rules. You can win a majority of the time.
Most of these could apply to test taking and doing well in school
Thanks, Roy. Great video!
Can anyone tell me what's the game on Tip 4? Thanks!
It's Heroes of Land, Air & Sea if I'm not mistaken from Gamelyn Games.
Seems to be Heroes of Land, Air & Sea
I think there were 2 games shown... 1st one might have been Apiary by SM games, 2nd one was Heroes.
"Just stop playing bad" 😂😂😂😂 Thanks Roy lol
Dune Imperium and TI4
I may be in the minority here. But if you follow these tips, then I don’t want to play games with you.
People who read up on strategies and especially cards before they sit down at the table. Yeah, no thanks.
You’re just way to focused on the competition rather than the game and the social interaction.
“Don’t make mistakes. Even the little things” - this feeds AP.
“Focus on the game. Don’t get distracted” - this feeds alfagaming.
“Learn all the cards before you play the game” - this would take all the fun out of a game for me.
Nice list! #10: Personally, I sometimes find it calm and relaxing down here in the weeds and looking at the shiny objects. (Actually, focusing too much on an element at a particular moment, resulting in losing focus on the big picture, can be my biggest hindrance). #6: I generally prefer simple misplays to complex misplays, as the latter cost too much time and energy. 😉
I agree exploring what a game has to offer is more fun and relaxing than trying to uber crunch every thing to win! But thats why i play casually!
right ... what about a chance to win free games?
Winning board games is about knowing that in game A if cards X and Y are in play you should bid a lot for X and not for Y. Not about sleeping more or whatever generic stuff can be put on a lsit like this. A particular list of specific info could be made for a particular game (not sure many people would becinterested unless the game is supercpopular and quite Spike-ish) (I would provider i play that game). But this is just "peoplexlike top 10 lista ill manager to squeeze an extra one this week"
I'm not good at any board game. But I also prefer exploring new board games to mastering old ones.
If I was to master a game, it might be go. But for that I'm not intelligent enough. And for chess I'm not willing to learn enough and also am not intelligent enough. I hate calculating in games.
this is such a waste of time, can i get my 15 minutes back? get good at coming up with better video ideas