True and false. The first Gravemind was the last surviving Precursor, that’s where a lot of the knowledge comes from. The flood kind of are the Precursors, therefore that original intelligence is theirs. One could also make the argument that any intelligence anyone acquires doesn’t “belong” to them. Most information is taught by others, not obtained from oneself.
@@Woodyisasexybeast not true the primordial was the last precursor the gravemind is a piece of dust grown by infection and disease he isnt even the highest flood form a key mind is which can span through a solar system.
Literally. I hope the Spartans tap into some parts of neural physics so they can go Doomslayer on the flood to make them suffer worse than they did us for as long as they have made us suffer, and THEN destroy them ONCE AND FOR ALL.
The book goes into great detail what’s it’s like for keys to go through this process of having his mind torn apart piece by piece as he struggles more and more or even hold onto the one that the separates himself from what’s trying to consume him, his own name.
Remember the ODST unit and Major Silva who was attempting to get his unit off of Halo via a covenant ship and Jenkins, one of the first Marines to become infected showed up but Silva's second in command had captured infected Jenkins and tried so hard to convince her CO that they could not leave due to the Flood and she ended up detonating the reactor.
If I’m not mistaken the books go into detail saying that he fought back agaisnt the the flood through sheer will using his name and destination number to hold it off at bay. That just says how FREAEKN amazing his will was it sadly came at the cost of his own life but still to fight the floods mind control through sheer will alone. That’s some dedication people would strive for man. Captain Keyes was a beast.
100%. It characterizes him super well too. This is a man so loyal that he’s willing to feed the flood cherished memories if it means delaying them even slightly.
Indeed it’s one reason I loved Captain Keyes granted I hated him as a follower I loved him as a character I rmemebwr the days my cousin got the comic and showed me just had badass him and Johnson and Cheif really were and I just couldn’t believe how amazing they were outside the game.
I read the flood book where it had keyes slowly loosing his memories and to keep himself from letting the flood know anything he just kept repeating his service number and name but the more horrifying chapter was from one of the marines who where infected with Keyes the infection form attached to him was really weak felt everything happening to him from bones breaking to his flesh and muscles tearing and the only time he gained any control is when the combat form was hurt and he would constantly try to k himself but the infection form would take control right before
@Woodyisasexybeast true, but let's also take into account that a lone human marine can easily fend off hordes of flood soldiers. Example: Our Favorite Australian UNSC Marine.
@dj11o9er9 I believe it was him sacrificing his memories, since the entire time he keeps trying to repeat his name, rank and numbers, possibly trying to prolong the flood as long as possible
@@cringelord2875”Oh God. You don’t want Earth-you want everything!” You’re right. In the book, Keyes was deliberately feeding the Gravemind his most precious memories (and therefore forgetting them) in a last-ditch effort to distract the Flood from being able to find humanity’s homeworld via his brain. It’s like giving junk/false information to a probing spy to lead them off the trail.
I love the books, been awhile but one sentence that stuck out was in Halo The Flood *book* "Master Chief enters the Forerunners entrance as that annoying bot keeps talking to him, he finds a marine ripped in half holding a shotgun.....having to battle hordes of flood himself with the aid of his Armour and skills Chief smirked and Grabbed the Tags picked up his shotgun and said ' You were one hell of a Marine...'
In the book it goes into detail about the flood taking over keys “the other” physiological warfare was going on with the victims memories. For keys he obviously was a prime target for knowledge and information against the unsc, keys realized this. That’s why he repeats his name and serial number over and over again, his memories were being played in his mind and absorbed, he slowly lost himself but he did not want to give the flood earth
If you've read fall of reach chief explains how petty officer Mendez was his father figure if you haven't read it might try it out great book whole series is on audible
"The flood is the most dangerous enemy in the halo universe" 343: we have single handedly killed the franchise by milking it to kingdom come and bad marketing promises.
I think they’re implying 343 is the worst enemy for Halo instead of the flood. Milking is certainly not their issue though, quite the opposite. We don’t get content. Where’s my Infinite campaign DLC
@@Woodyisasexybeast They are milking the hell out of the game cosmetics-wise. They can’t give us DLC but they can offer us new skins every week in the store.
@@Nova_ODTthe thing that makes the hive so intimidating, is that they don't even see the races weaker than them as anything other than bugs to be crushed. They have no culture, or feeling other than battle and war
And it backfired bigtime cuz the chief was first and foremost a soldier and soldiers always finish the fight first before succumbing to PTSD and anxiety outbreaks. They say the military has your back but back home? Its like being behind enemy lines...
Halo as a whole is kind of a hopeless feeling game sometimes. Humanity itself is being annihilated by a coalition of alien zealots, then the Flood get loose and begin spreading again, causing the Swords of Sangheilios to glass much of Africa, it just makes me sad you know? Like the Vong War in Star Wars Legends where 100's of trillions of sapient beings were destroyed, there's just so much DEATH
This is why ancient humanity absolutely demolished any planet with a flood spore. They had the means, and there was no mercy for anything alive on the planet. Essentially, super glassing entire worlds beyond normal weaponry in the halo universe. Humanity was actually winning until the forerunners involvement
God yeah, I am not gonna lie the first time I ever played halo remasters when I first came out. Yeah, this is exactly how I literally reacted to this whole entire terminal of Captain Keyes. his death was so excruciating like beyond anything I’ve ever seen. the books go into that graphic detail and in this terminal I’m like why in the world is 343 going t for teen? This is why the halo universe needs to stay M for mature. This went into the disturbing detail about what the flood due to their victims, especially those that are still conscious and alive. I can’t imagine any sort of forerunner in the forerunner Flood war, having to have been captured by the flood, and literally gone through this kind of hell. This is even more disturbing than I’ve ever seen and man I’m actually grateful I got to understand what he was going through. in the books, they say the same thing too you can tell he’s literally trying to fight. He is not sure who’s captured believing it’s the covenant he still is convinced it’s the covenant. Yet he’s doing his best to try and prevent giving any information to the flood that want to know their next feeding ground. The most disturbing part of all is we hear the proto Gravemind speak and it’s like man thank God master chief arrived in time. I mean, yeah, he was already long gone before his final moments he had to warn master chief in Cortana to stay away from him. Believing that was all he could do to save human best chance for survival and if anything were to happen to them yeah, that’s a reason to do that. But the most important thing was extracting his neural implants in his head. Yeah, chief did the right thing to put him out of his misery. God the things he went through. I mean, I am fairly certain Miranda would be horrified by that.
Watched a video a while back where some navy SEAL talks about how if captured all they could say was their name, service number and some other non important details to the the enemy. Its good that 343 added this to the terminal and shows attention to detail because keyes clearly doesnt know what the flood are and thinks its something covenant and obviously he wouldn't give information to the enemy willingly.
Did Bungie give us a flood horror game? I’m not 343’a biggest fan. But my god, the constant bashing in completely irrelevant situations is so annoying. This comment has literally nothing to do with 343.
In the book the Flood basically tries to probe his mind for memories, and he offers (sacrifices) his memories to it one by one to stave it off and prevent it from finding the most important piece of information he cannot let it have: The location of Earth. He keeps clinging on to his name, rank, serial number as a mantra even when the Flood mind is slowly consuming is every memory and wiping out his very sense of identity.
I loved keyes! He went through so much stuff, man! He's often kinda forgot about and i wish he was remembered a bit more. I miss many of the old characters! Keys, Johnson, ship Master, so many that we haven't seen in a long time. With infinite i was hoping we'd see arbiter and his crew again, but alass it was nice to have keyes mentioned and hear his voice in that one flashback part though! 😅👍🏻
Keyes had Chief's respect and recognition as his CO, but if you read The Fall Of Reach you find they have very little interactions before being on The Pillar of Autumn together. Cpt. Keyes saw Chief as a candidate for the Spartan program, but John did not meet him. The next time they meet was after the battle of Sigma Octanus outside ONI's interrogation room. Then again after being deployed together on the Autumn. There is no indication Keyes is a father figure for the Master Chief. Rather Chief Petty Officer Mendez who trained the Spartan IIs is
The flood is no longer the most dangerous entity in the Halo universe stated by cortana herself " You and I both know that there's more dangerous things in this ring than the flood in "
I don’t think that’s what she means. I think the POTENTIAL of The Endless is more dangerous thanks to their immunity to the firing of the rings. Imagine if the flood infected a Xalanyn? If the flood gained immunity to the rings, that’s game over.
There is absolutely no way that 343,or anyone for that matter, can write something even more powerful and more dangerous than the flood. Among all the horrible dialogue lines in Halo infinite, this was straight up the dumbest. The flood is by far the single most powerful, non divine entity i have ever seen in any media period. It is realistically undefeatable, has for all intends and purposes unlimited computing and planning power, cannot realistically be killed in any meaningful way, knows basically everything you can possibly know... In lore it's as close to omnipotent as something without super powers can be. It is also quite impossible for the flood to have been defeated at the end of halo 3, not even the "local" outbreak. Its intelligence and planning power is far beyond anything even entire species can bring fourth, and the entire ending of halo 3 builds on a simple mistake the flood allegedly makes. (that is, having access to about a million slipspace capable ships, and billions of life forms on high charity, and taking all of them to the ark instead of seeding the entire galaxy with backup forms) The gravemind alone is so incomprehensibly powerful that i personally think they went a little too far with just HOW powerful he is. The games don't even remotely do him justice.
@@MrMegaMetroidThe flood brought everything to the ark because if the rings were fired those seeds you were talking about would have been eliminated. On top of that If the flood could have captured the lesser ark it would’ve most definitely became even more unstoppable.
@@BreakinUpBuds the rings cannot destroy the flood. the rings can only affect life with a complex enough neuron structure, not microbial life, which the flood are. that is why they are still around despite the firing of the rings the first time. They literally just have to put spores everywhere. Even regular life just survives the halo rings, provided it doesn't have a complex enough neural connection. this is also why the domain ended up getting destroyed, since it was semi sentient, which the forerunners didn't realise until it was too late.
@@MrMegaMetroid The rings do kill the flood but doesn’t completely wipe them out. It does kill any of them that have a nervous system so like the gravemind, pure forums and combat forums etc. It does not kill the flood bio mass that doesn’t have nervous system or The flood Super cell. After the forerunners fired the halo rings they used some type of chemical and sprayed it on flood infested planets that caused it to rapidly decay So those world could be re-populated.
Flood kind of parallels spartan IIs in the unsc in a way, only a select few know the spartans by name, but everything else the spartans has given to humanity. Besides the skeletons that some people might find from oni, there's more than a lot of reasons oni works real hard to protect their spartans' information. Altho this sentiment is never blatantly shown or described it was something I'd hoped would've ended up being shown in the tv series, but, you know what we got
I think that’s the real issue with the endless that makes them “more dangerous” than the flood. People constantly seem to miss that concept for some reason.
@@Woodyisasexybeast well after Keyes turned into a proto gravemind shouldn’t he have been sort of ready for any other work friends turning into monsters?
I wouldn’t say as much. Chief almost single handily saved humanity time and time again. He definitely deserves way more recognition than he gets though
the flood Is very disturbing visually how they twist their captives into unrecognizable monsters while they're probably still conscious living the pain or slowly fading away due to the flood intelligence consuming them all into a mangled mess, especially digging through their memories us messed up I wish nobody to go through such conditions......(except halo legendary jackal snipers)
They 100% do feel it. There’s a good section of the novelization of CE that follows a character that’s already been consumed but remains conscious. It’s horrible
Technically speaking the terminals aren’t cannon they just show backstory on the anniversary ones and the keys one is actually showing even tho he dying and losing his mind he’s holding it up to keep the flood from getting the whereabouts of earth and in the book the flood the way he does it is to repeat his rank and military id and it worked he held up long enough for master chef to come and put a end to it
I disagree. I have an entire video dedicated to this topic where I go into great detail explaining how and why every lore based collectible was likely gathered by the games protagonist. It may not be confirmed for CE or 2 but it is for literally every other game and I see no reason why they’d be an exception, regardless of the fact that the terminals were added later.
Expect there’s no mention these in the books the only ones that are cannon were the ones in halo 3 the ones added to the anniversary ones were added to add more content and backstory to the world of halo but in lore they aren’t cannon
@toddbata8644 the terminals in CE and 2 being canon is up for debate. I make what I believe to be a very compelling argument in the long form video I mentioned. More theory than certainty but I’d bet on it based on quite a few clues. There doesn’t need to be mention of these in the books to make them canon. Tons of things happen that are canon and not mentioned in any novel. Every other lore based collectible is absolutely canon and has been confirmed as such. ODST, Reach, 4, 5, and Infinite. Each lore tidbit was collected by the given protagonist.
In my opinion, they’re not really scary in game because you’re given the tools to defeat them. If you were deprived of weaponry and forced to engage them with a limited toolset, it would be a lot scarier. We’re also only ever in the shoes of walking tanks (Arby and Chief) when we face the flood. Imagine a survival horror game centered around the flood that puts you in the shoes of a marine or a grunt? THAT would be terrifying.
@@Woodyisasexybeast o absolutely I’ve been saying that for years about the flood having their own survival horror game but u play as a marine or just a civilian or even the story of the Mona Lisa as a game but I still stand with my statement that Bungie also failed to make the flood horrifying, as in the lack of gore and darker lighting
Oh idk if I agree with that. Some of the setup in 343 guilty spark is pretty spooky. The eerie music, thick green fog, erratic enemy behavior, blood soaked halls, etc. It’s all very good tension building. Only on the original graphics though, the anniversary textures strip away certain aspects of that
@@Woodyisasexybeast idk man, call me queasy or smth but I dislike fighting the flood even while I am master chief, that shit scares me even with shotgun, assault rifle and grenades :/
No shame, my friend. That is the intention after all. I’ve heard that from a lot of people. Parasites really ick me out but for whatever reason, the flood has never bothered me. The only thing I can equate it to is having weapons and tools to fight back. Idk man
I mean, you’re wrong. His death was deeply disturbing to him. You can tell he’s sad in Infinite. I think it’s talked about in both The Flood and First Strike as well
@@Woodyisasexybeast I haven’t really played enough, right now I’ve only played CE and H2A, and just started 3. And everything else is kinda irrelevant to me, but I bet in the moment, Chief was more focused on destroying Halo than Keyes dying
Here are a few First Strike quotes that clearly imply he thought very fondly of the man: “John stiffened as Captain Keyes appeared on screen and as the Flood consumed the Captain and his squad”. “Three possible survivors out of the Pillar of Autumn’s total compliment of hundreds. He wished there was more. He wished Captain Keyes were here.” Saving the best for last. “John remembered all those who had made a difference for him. Sam. James. CPO Mendez. Captain Keyes.” Chief is also obviously very sad when recalling his death during Infinite.
@Woodyisasexybeast ok so in my mind I can and am fond of my cat and my blanket from childhood. I would not consider either of them to be my friend though. At which point did Master chief and captain Keyes have the time together to form of bond of friendship?
@VeggiesOutFront your cat isn’t your friend? Of course it is. Your cat is a living entity that you share a bond with. You possess an affection for it. That’s absolutely a friend. If you don’t consider that a friend, then I have no idea what to tell you. My dogs are my friends, my wife is my friend, my father is my friend. I just provided you with literal quotes solidifying my point that they’re friends. The amount of time they’ve spent together is irrelevant. The title of “friend” isn’t defined by an arbitrary time prerequisite.
Not even remotely. Having your neural components fried is not even remotely as terrifying as even the most normal shit the flood can do. And the flood is more powerful as well. Even the halo array cannot defeat it, only destroy the more complex flood forms. Spores would have to be killed manually, and as they are microscopic and distributed basically everywhere in the milky way, thats literally and figuratively impossible. The flood is so powerful they had to use miles of plot armor to even remotely hurt them in the main series, as realistically, they are undefeatable
A lot of people never read the books and were caught by surprise by the terminal footage. The books went deep, it was like the games were movies before the books were written. Tbh, they were, and they were pulled off better than G.O.T. And SW imo 😁 But yeah, the books go into great detail, such the Halo Book 2: The Flood, explains that Master Chief had time to go back to the Autumn after rendezvousing with Sgt Major Johnson and shower before continuing further exploration of the ring. Even mentions a scene where 343 Guilty Spark kidnapped a Sergeant by the name Marvin Mobuto to help clean out the flood around the index. Master Chief couldn’t believe how far the Sgt made it through that madness. Claimed that he must have been one bad S.O.B as he recovered Sgt Mobuto’s dog tags. It’s all a good read and never too late to pick up the audiobooks on RUclips channels!
I’ve got a physical copy and have read it many times. The chief sections are mediocre but the rest of the book is great. I’ve made content about other parts of that book too. Jenkins, Yayap, Keyes and Marvin have all gotten their own videos
@@Woodyisasexybeast I have skull that lets you fly, by double tapping A. But when I jump, then press and hold crouch, I float slowly to the ground. Is this a skull that is active?
Except the Flood quite literally couldn't do that. The outbreak on Installation 04 was small and the Flood were in the feral stage, acting on instinct rather than intellect. Its only when a Gravemind is formed that the Flood start acting with intelligence.
Have you watched this terminal or read the flood? They may have been in the feral stage but that does not mean they’re unintelligent. The flood directly speaks to Keyes in a very intelligent manner. He was inside a proto gravemind, therefore the early stages of a centralized intelligence were forming. Everything the flood was doing during that time was intelligent. They were attempting to flee the ring using the Pillar of Autumn or the Truth and Reconciliation. That requires intelligence.
I have a much longer video that creates a very compelling argument for why I think the chief DID find them on my channel. I believe basically every in game collectible is actually canonically collected by the given protagonist.
I disagree. I have an entire, long form video dedicated to this topic where I go very in depth about every collectible in each Halo game. I believe all of the protagonists canonically collected all of the collectibles.
@@Woodyisasexybeast ok but if thats the case, Chief would have known the flood exist in the 3 Mission, 3rd terminal, and that there are more halos and there is an Arc and what the Halos acually do. If he knows all that, he woulnd be surprised from it..? I mean the Terminals only exist in CEA and not in CE becaus its release was after the trilogy and i think its just some infos for the players who already know all that but not for chief himself. The Terminals in Halo3 on the otherhand even get commented by Cortana so i think they are different.
I dont get why the flood is so hyped up by halo fans. I played Halo 1 as a KID and I was a cowardly kid and even then the flood didn't scare me and I got scared easily. I played Halo 3 alot over and over which is probably why the flood just became meh to me. They're more of a nuisance. One level im having fun shooting brutes, grunts and fighting the covenant and boom now im fighting these space zombies and I dread it every time cause I realize im getting to the point im fighting the flood and all the amusement I had just drains and I just tolerate it. The flood was annoying, especially on level cortana where they're just a nuisance and obstacles. Instead of a "Oh yeah let's do this!" attitude i'm more like "Alright guys let's get this over with" and just make my way through the flood wishing I was blowing up wraiths or something instead.
The flood are excellent from a narrative perspective. Outside of the games, they’re absolutely horrifying. They’re an eldritch cosmic horror, not just space zombies. I’ve seen this opinion echoed a few times throughout the Halo community. That the flood isn’t fun to fight. I disagree though. While I do think some of the flood centric missions are annoying, such as Cortana or The Library, I still think they’re an exceptionally valuable narrative tool for Halo.
It’s POSSIBLE that the terminals within CE and 2 aren’t canonically in the places you find them. But the protagonists of every other halo game absolutely find the terminals. This video is an argument for why I think Chief DID find this terminal. I have a much longer breakdown elaborating on the subject on my channel.
That’s up for debate. The terminals were found, in canon, during halo 3, odst, 4, Reach, 5 and likely Infinite. I see no reason why it would be any different in CE or 2, even if they were added after the fact. I have a long form video going over this very concept that explains it all.
Not really. Keyes was there when John was conscripted. He had a thing with Halsey. If Halsey is like his mom, Keyes would be something like a father figure
I mean, they had a kid together. Miranda. That’s only half of what I said as well. Keyes was there when John was conscripted. That’s important. Also, I said “potential” because it’s a little unclear how John felt. We know he cared a lot about him and respected him greatly. We also know he was deeply affected by his death but that’s it. It is possible that he felt some kind of paternal connection with Keyes
The flood’s intelligence does not belong to them.
True and false. The first Gravemind was the last surviving Precursor, that’s where a lot of the knowledge comes from. The flood kind of are the Precursors, therefore that original intelligence is theirs.
One could also make the argument that any intelligence anyone acquires doesn’t “belong” to them. Most information is taught by others, not obtained from oneself.
@@Woodyisasexybeastone random caveman going from 10 IQ to 5000 after all the intelligence goes back to him
@@Woodyisasexybeast very well spoken! You’re absolutely correct.
@@Woodyisasexybeast not true the primordial was the last precursor the gravemind is a piece of dust grown by infection and disease he isnt even the highest flood form a key mind is which can span through a solar system.
That’s what I said. The first Gravemind was the last Precursor.
Goal: demoralising the master chief
Outcome: "you've just pissed me off"
😅 we went extra pretty for the proto gravemind
I was looking foe the first comment
“Originally it was necessity, now it’s just personal.”
Literally. I hope the Spartans tap into some parts of neural physics so they can go Doomslayer on the flood to make them suffer worse than they did us for as long as they have made us suffer, and THEN destroy them ONCE AND FOR ALL.
Halo wars 2? @@ohxvvt
The book goes into great detail what’s it’s like for keys to go through this process of having his mind torn apart piece by piece as he struggles more and more or even hold onto the one that the separates himself from what’s trying to consume him, his own name.
Yep. The terminal adapted parts of it. Both are really good
Don’t forget we get to see Jenkin’s full story
Remember the ODST unit and Major Silva who was attempting to get his unit off of Halo via a covenant ship and Jenkins, one of the first Marines to become infected showed up but Silva's second in command had captured infected Jenkins and tried so hard to convince her CO that they could not leave due to the Flood and she ended up detonating the reactor.
It sounds a lot like rampancy. Between Cortana and the flood, both are ever consuming.
If I’m not mistaken the books go into detail saying that he fought back agaisnt the the flood through sheer will using his name and destination number to hold it off at bay. That just says how FREAEKN amazing his will was it sadly came at the cost of his own life but still to fight the floods mind control through sheer will alone. That’s some dedication people would strive for man. Captain Keyes was a beast.
100%. It characterizes him super well too. This is a man so loyal that he’s willing to feed the flood cherished memories if it means delaying them even slightly.
Indeed it’s one reason I loved Captain Keyes granted I hated him as a follower I loved him as a character I rmemebwr the days my cousin got the comic and showed me just had badass him and Johnson and Cheif really were and I just couldn’t believe how amazing they were outside the game.
The comocs are so good dude, and not really many people have even read them it seems@@bladetheelectrowolf1554
I read the flood book where it had keyes slowly loosing his memories and to keep himself from letting the flood know anything he just kept repeating his service number and name but the more horrifying chapter was from one of the marines who where infected with Keyes the infection form attached to him was really weak felt everything happening to him from bones breaking to his flesh and muscles tearing and the only time he gained any control is when the combat form was hurt and he would constantly try to k himself but the infection form would take control right before
Yes, he does this in the terminal as well.
Jenkins. Such a sad part of the story. Definitely one of the scariest flood moments in the series
Private Jenkins, the guy whose helmet recording you see.
@@RedTHedge ah that’s right hadn’t read the book since I was 10 so a good while ago
Yeah rip Jenkins and Keys 😞
When you really look into the lore of halo its just brutal
Disturbing as it was, I found Keyes' struggle to be an inspiration, a testament to Mankind's strength and will.
It’s also superb characterization. Keyes was known for his loyalty and that terminal is a superb showcase of it
@@Woodyisasexybeast loyalty, grit, and though he didn't show it well (as most men of his type do), his immense and overwhelming love for his daughter.
The Floods intelligence has a downside.
The "intimidation" can also serve as a motivator to eradicate the flood as a whole.
Of course. But most people the flood faces have literally no chance of survival whatsoever.
You know what, I think that floods are amateurs. There's almost no point in intimidation with such abilities.
@@TheIronPanda12-ct7un I agree.
If you have the ability to control someone's body, why would you need to torture them further? It makes no sense.
@Woodyisasexybeast true, but let's also take into account that a lone human marine can easily fend off hordes of flood soldiers.
Example: Our Favorite Australian UNSC Marine.
He’s exceptional though. Most do not have the luck that Chipps has
Jacob Keyes went out a true hero, sacrificing all his memories of his wife, his daughter, his home, all of it too ensure his enemy couldn't get to it
I thought it was the flood just picking everything apart and casting it aside
Keyes himself begs to not let him forget Miranda
@dj11o9er9 I believe it was him sacrificing his memories, since the entire time he keeps trying to repeat his name, rank and numbers, possibly trying to prolong the flood as long as possible
@@cringelord2875”Oh God. You don’t want Earth-you want everything!”
You’re right. In the book, Keyes was deliberately feeding the Gravemind his most precious memories (and therefore forgetting them) in a last-ditch effort to distract the Flood from being able to find humanity’s homeworld via his brain. It’s like giving junk/false information to a probing spy to lead them off the trail.
Rip keys.
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I was a real one
I cried when i lost keys
i love how in halo 2 anniversary in the ceremony the daughter miranda shed a tear when cpt keyes was honored
It really gets me when he starts talking about Miranda in the terminal 😢
Halfway through halo it becomes a horror game. I loved it.
“You will not have me!” - Keyes
“We already do.” - The Flood
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I love the books, been awhile but one sentence that stuck out was in Halo The Flood *book* "Master Chief enters the Forerunners entrance as that annoying bot keeps talking to him, he finds a marine ripped in half holding a shotgun.....having to battle hordes of flood himself with the aid of his Armour and skills Chief smirked and Grabbed the Tags picked up his shotgun and said ' You were one hell of a Marine...'
The Flood is pretty lame when it comes to the chief segments but damn did it have some other really great stuff in there
Disagree; I thought the parts with the Chief did him justice, even if only to hammer home that he was a combat machine with the action bits.
"You don't want Earth... you want EVERYTHING!" - Keyes
the amount of times I watched this terminal when I was younger when CE:A released on the 360
the flood is something else
Always brings a tear to my eye 😢
In the book it goes into detail about the flood taking over keys “the other” physiological warfare was going on with the victims memories. For keys he obviously was a prime target for knowledge and information against the unsc, keys realized this. That’s why he repeats his name and serial number over and over again, his memories were being played in his mind and absorbed, he slowly lost himself but he did not want to give the flood earth
I love how they managed to get the exact tone from the book, the flood for this evening
If you've read fall of reach chief explains how petty officer Mendez was his father figure if you haven't read it might try it out great book whole series is on audible
Yes, I’ve read it. Keyes still fits that role to a degree. He was there when he was selected, after all.
@Woodyisasexybeast great point and do you have mcc?
Of course! How could I make Halo content and not have MCC? That would be heresy
@Woodyisasexybeast lmao would you be interested in playing sometime was looking for someone who could help me with my laso runs
Idk if I could subject myself to doing those again tbh
Keys is without a doubt one of the most legendary of halo characters. Come pay your respects to the captain here 🫡
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"The flood is the most dangerous enemy in the halo universe"
343: we have single handedly killed the franchise by milking it to kingdom come and bad marketing promises.
By milking what? 343 never released a game with the flood as a main antagonist.
I think they’re implying 343 is the worst enemy for Halo instead of the flood. Milking is certainly not their issue though, quite the opposite. We don’t get content. Where’s my Infinite campaign DLC
@@Woodyisasexybeast They are milking the hell out of the game cosmetics-wise. They can’t give us DLC but they can offer us new skins every week in the store.
Not even though. There’s so much iconic armor that isn’t in the game, it’s ridiculous
@Woodyisasexybeast I agree. Now, the gameplay is fun, which is why I play the game. That being said, WHERES MY OPERATOR HELMET!!!
Speaking through the memories of the infected into the Gravemind. It’s absolutely disturbing. But yet, soo very needed in this universe
Hahaha we demoralized him
*Doom music starts to play* no, just really pissed me off
Flood not knowing this only enraged Master Chief
I've seen that throughout history. Sometimes fear and atrocities keep people down, but sometimes it inspires rage.
For the longest time this was the only terminal I could find before I decided to google where the others were
All of the others are cool but this one is definitely the best. So at least you got stuck with a damn good one
I recall having nightmares from that particular terminal
Ooohhh… that sucks. I hear you man. I’ve had and been having nightmares more often and they suck.
The flood lore and the hive (from destiny) lore are some of the most terrifying things, and also the things from games that have given me nightmares
@@Nova_ODTthe thing that makes the hive so intimidating, is that they don't even see the races weaker than them as anything other than bugs to be crushed. They have no culture, or feeling other than battle and war
And it backfired bigtime cuz the chief was first and foremost a soldier and soldiers always finish the fight first before succumbing to PTSD and anxiety outbreaks. They say the military has your back but back home? Its like being behind enemy lines...
“Rage and vengeance, anger, loss, regret, they're all tremendous motivators”
If they can, not everyone can handle stressors like that.
But as a good marine he never breaks never gives them the location to earth
Keyes is infinitely loyal and this is a great showcase of that.
He's a Navy Captain, but yeah.
Halo as a whole is kind of a hopeless feeling game sometimes. Humanity itself is being annihilated by a coalition of alien zealots, then the Flood get loose and begin spreading again, causing the Swords of Sangheilios to glass much of Africa, it just makes me sad you know? Like the Vong War in Star Wars Legends where 100's of trillions of sapient beings were destroyed, there's just so much DEATH
This is why ancient humanity absolutely demolished any planet with a flood spore. They had the means, and there was no mercy for anything alive on the planet. Essentially, super glassing entire worlds beyond normal weaponry in the halo universe. Humanity was actually winning until the forerunners involvement
Ancient humanity is such an interesting, still somewhat mysterious aspect of Halo’s lore. We know very little about them
God yeah, I am not gonna lie the first time I ever played halo remasters when I first came out. Yeah, this is exactly how I literally reacted to this whole entire terminal of Captain Keyes. his death was so excruciating like beyond anything I’ve ever seen. the books go into that graphic detail and in this terminal I’m like why in the world is 343 going t for teen? This is why the halo universe needs to stay M for mature. This went into the disturbing detail about what the flood due to their victims, especially those that are still conscious and alive. I can’t imagine any sort of forerunner in the forerunner Flood war, having to have been captured by the flood, and literally gone through this kind of hell. This is even more disturbing than I’ve ever seen and man I’m actually grateful I got to understand what he was going through. in the books, they say the same thing too you can tell he’s literally trying to fight. He is not sure who’s captured believing it’s the covenant he still is convinced it’s the covenant. Yet he’s doing his best to try and prevent giving any information to the flood that want to know their next feeding ground. The most disturbing part of all is we hear the proto Gravemind speak and it’s like man thank God master chief arrived in time. I mean, yeah, he was already long gone before his final moments he had to warn master chief in Cortana to stay away from him. Believing that was all he could do to save human best chance for survival and if anything were to happen to them yeah, that’s a reason to do that. But the most important thing was extracting his neural implants in his head. Yeah, chief did the right thing to put him out of his misery. God the things he went through. I mean, I am fairly certain Miranda would be horrified by that.
Watched a video a while back where some navy SEAL talks about how if captured all they could say was their name, service number and some other non important details to the the enemy. Its good that 343 added this to the terminal and shows attention to detail because keyes clearly doesnt know what the flood are and thinks its something covenant and obviously he wouldn't give information to the enemy willingly.
He knew they weren't covenant.
@East_Coast_Toasty_Boy he says "the covenant captured me didn't they, I can't remember" then at the end he realises it isn't covenant
@@rm0379 Oh yeah, but that was because the flood was attacking
his memories.
god this music... I want to go back in time so bad 😥
Basically: you didn't make me scared.
You made me angry and vengeful.
F the flood!
F 343 for never giving us a proper flood horror game and shitting the games rating down to t
Did Bungie give us a flood horror game?
I’m not 343’a biggest fan. But my god, the constant bashing in completely irrelevant situations is so annoying. This comment has literally nothing to do with 343.
I like the start where it shows the Covenant console half damaged and rotten.. it infects technology 😮
Yep. The logic plague is basically just artificial injection
Newest feeling from revisiting this
*Doom Bfg Division starts playing*
Rip and tear, until it is done
😢
In the book the Flood basically tries to probe his mind for memories, and he offers (sacrifices) his memories to it one by one to stave it off and prevent it from finding the most important piece of information he cannot let it have: The location of Earth. He keeps clinging on to his name, rank, serial number as a mantra even when the Flood mind is slowly consuming is every memory and wiping out his very sense of identity.
I loved keyes! He went through so much stuff, man! He's often kinda forgot about and i wish he was remembered a bit more. I miss many of the old characters! Keys, Johnson, ship Master, so many that we haven't seen in a long time. With infinite i was hoping we'd see arbiter and his crew again, but alass it was nice to have keyes mentioned and hear his voice in that one flashback part though! 😅👍🏻
Keyes had Chief's respect and recognition as his CO, but if you read The Fall Of Reach you find they have very little interactions before being on The Pillar of Autumn together. Cpt. Keyes saw Chief as a candidate for the Spartan program, but John did not meet him. The next time they meet was after the battle of Sigma Octanus outside ONI's interrogation room. Then again after being deployed together on the Autumn. There is no indication Keyes is a father figure for the Master Chief. Rather Chief Petty Officer Mendez who trained the Spartan IIs is
I did, it pissed me off and wanted to not exterminate the flood, but to make THEM suffer
The flood is no longer the most dangerous entity in the Halo universe stated by cortana herself " You and I both know that there's more dangerous things in this ring than the flood in "
I don’t think that’s what she means. I think the POTENTIAL of The Endless is more dangerous thanks to their immunity to the firing of the rings. Imagine if the flood infected a Xalanyn? If the flood gained immunity to the rings, that’s game over.
There is absolutely no way that 343,or anyone for that matter, can write something even more powerful and more dangerous than the flood. Among all the horrible dialogue lines in Halo infinite, this was straight up the dumbest. The flood is by far the single most powerful, non divine entity i have ever seen in any media period.
It is realistically undefeatable, has for all intends and purposes unlimited computing and planning power, cannot realistically be killed in any meaningful way, knows basically everything you can possibly know... In lore it's as close to omnipotent as something without super powers can be. It is also quite impossible for the flood to have been defeated at the end of halo 3, not even the "local" outbreak. Its intelligence and planning power is far beyond anything even entire species can bring fourth, and the entire ending of halo 3 builds on a simple mistake the flood allegedly makes. (that is, having access to about a million slipspace capable ships, and billions of life forms on high charity, and taking all of them to the ark instead of seeding the entire galaxy with backup forms)
The gravemind alone is so incomprehensibly powerful that i personally think they went a little too far with just HOW powerful he is. The games don't even remotely do him justice.
@@MrMegaMetroidThe flood brought everything to the ark because if the rings were fired those seeds you were talking about would have been eliminated. On top of that If the flood could have captured the lesser ark it would’ve most definitely became even more unstoppable.
@@BreakinUpBuds the rings cannot destroy the flood. the rings can only affect life with a complex enough neuron structure, not microbial life, which the flood are. that is why they are still around despite the firing of the rings the first time. They literally just have to put spores everywhere. Even regular life just survives the halo rings, provided it doesn't have a complex enough neural connection. this is also why the domain ended up getting destroyed, since it was semi sentient, which the forerunners didn't realise until it was too late.
@@MrMegaMetroid The rings do kill the flood but doesn’t completely wipe them out. It does kill any of them that have a nervous system so like the gravemind, pure forums and combat forums etc. It does not kill the flood bio mass that doesn’t have nervous system or The flood Super cell. After the forerunners fired the halo rings they used some type of chemical and sprayed it on flood infested planets that caused it to rapidly decay So those world could be re-populated.
Flood kind of parallels spartan IIs in the unsc in a way, only a select few know the spartans by name, but everything else the spartans has given to humanity. Besides the skeletons that some people might find from oni, there's more than a lot of reasons oni works real hard to protect their spartans' information. Altho this sentiment is never blatantly shown or described it was something I'd hoped would've ended up being shown in the tv series, but, you know what we got
*keyes*: Literally being infected by the flood.
*Also Keyes*: Mag dumplings multiple flood combat forms.
No wonder John hates them so much they basically tortured his dad man I’ve never really thought about it like that
Honestly, this scared me the first time I played Anniversary I literally had to hide under the covers in my bed when I played this XD
It scarred me for sure. This is by far one of the best showcases of just how scary the flood is capable of being.
Good shit
Probably the most disturbing piece of Halo media out there besides Jenkin's in The Flood
Oh idk, The Mona Lisa is pretty messed up
I call the flood peanut people
Popcorn
Every time I watch this terminal I cry it's so fucking sad
Me too. One of my favorite moments in the series but god damn is it gut wrenching
Imagine if he survived but secretly was infected and in Halo 3 the Flood secretly inside him finally transformed him.
Poor keyes
Imagine a flood/endless hybrid x-x
I think that’s the real issue with the endless that makes them “more dangerous” than the flood. People constantly seem to miss that concept for some reason.
@@Woodyisasexybeast
I honestly think that the Endless should have been the Precursors.
"Kill me"
Chief really has a problem with letting go of his work friends huh
His works friends are his only friends
@@Woodyisasexybeast yes. They are.
@@Woodyisasexybeast well after Keyes turned into a proto gravemind shouldn’t he have been sort of ready for any other work friends turning into monsters?
I mean, Keyes isn’t the first friend death. It’s just one of the most fucked up. Sam was the first. He still holds on to that. Dude needs some therapy
@@Woodyisasexybeast hm didn’t know that!
Keyes is a hero. Mankind owes him a debt as much as they owe Chief.
I wouldn’t say as much. Chief almost single handily saved humanity time and time again.
He definitely deserves way more recognition than he gets though
What do you mean? Keyes was perfectly fine aboard the Truth and Reconciliation until he accidentally shot himself with a backwards pistol.
Ah, cursed Halo. Still haven’t played that
the flood Is very disturbing visually how they twist their captives into unrecognizable monsters while they're probably still conscious living the pain or slowly fading away due to the flood intelligence consuming them all into a mangled mess, especially digging through their memories us messed up I wish nobody to go through such conditions......(except halo legendary jackal snipers)
They 100% do feel it. There’s a good section of the novelization of CE that follows a character that’s already been consumed but remains conscious. It’s horrible
@@Woodyisasexybeast Poor ol' Jenkins
Halo ce was a horror movie
Fun fact the Gravemind is Forklift certified
Yep. Among many other things
Didn't know John had a strong relationship with keyes
I found it out by reading Halo the fall of Reach
Nothing a plasma can't fix
It was scary yet so sad
😢It was so painful to watch. He was fighting to hold onto himself while the Flood was taking over. It's like I could feel part of me slipping away.😢
jacob keyes death was the most sad and horror death in halo series
Technically speaking the terminals aren’t cannon they just show backstory on the anniversary ones and the keys one is actually showing even tho he dying and losing his mind he’s holding it up to keep the flood from getting the whereabouts of earth and in the book the flood the way he does it is to repeat his rank and military id and it worked he held up long enough for master chef to come and put a end to it
I disagree. I have an entire video dedicated to this topic where I go into great detail explaining how and why every lore based collectible was likely gathered by the games protagonist. It may not be confirmed for CE or 2 but it is for literally every other game and I see no reason why they’d be an exception, regardless of the fact that the terminals were added later.
Expect there’s no mention these in the books the only ones that are cannon were the ones in halo 3 the ones added to the anniversary ones were added to add more content and backstory to the world of halo but in lore they aren’t cannon
@toddbata8644 the terminals in CE and 2 being canon is up for debate. I make what I believe to be a very compelling argument in the long form video I mentioned. More theory than certainty but I’d bet on it based on quite a few clues. There doesn’t need to be mention of these in the books to make them canon. Tons of things happen that are canon and not mentioned in any novel.
Every other lore based collectible is absolutely canon and has been confirmed as such. ODST, Reach, 4, 5, and Infinite. Each lore tidbit was collected by the given protagonist.
A lot of things have changed in halo over the years to be honest doesn’t change the fact that they aren’t cannon
When will the forerunners and precursors get erased from all the realities in every multiverse permanently
I would love a playable flood in halo infinite
Too bad the flood were never this horrifying, even in the Bungie games💀
In my opinion, they’re not really scary in game because you’re given the tools to defeat them. If you were deprived of weaponry and forced to engage them with a limited toolset, it would be a lot scarier. We’re also only ever in the shoes of walking tanks (Arby and Chief) when we face the flood. Imagine a survival horror game centered around the flood that puts you in the shoes of a marine or a grunt? THAT would be terrifying.
@@Woodyisasexybeast o absolutely I’ve been saying that for years about the flood having their own survival horror game but u play as a marine or just a civilian or even the story of the Mona Lisa as a game but I still stand with my statement that Bungie also failed to make the flood horrifying, as in the lack of gore and darker lighting
Oh idk if I agree with that. Some of the setup in 343 guilty spark is pretty spooky. The eerie music, thick green fog, erratic enemy behavior, blood soaked halls, etc. It’s all very good tension building. Only on the original graphics though, the anniversary textures strip away certain aspects of that
@@Woodyisasexybeast idk man, call me queasy or smth but I dislike fighting the flood even while I am master chief, that shit scares me even with shotgun, assault rifle and grenades :/
No shame, my friend. That is the intention after all. I’ve heard that from a lot of people. Parasites really ick me out but for whatever reason, the flood has never bothered me. The only thing I can equate it to is having weapons and tools to fight back. Idk man
Got a feeling that MC didn’t give a crap that he died, he just wanted to get the heck out and destroy halo
I mean, you’re wrong. His death was deeply disturbing to him. You can tell he’s sad in Infinite. I think it’s talked about in both The Flood and First Strike as well
@@Woodyisasexybeast I haven’t really played enough, right now I’ve only played CE and H2A, and just started 3. And everything else is kinda irrelevant to me, but I bet in the moment, Chief was more focused on destroying Halo than Keyes dying
They go over this more In the halo the flood book
This is basically just an adaptation of that section of the book. It varies slightly though. There’s no mention of Miranda in the book
I loved Captain Keyes as a character. When they ruined him in the Paramount show I couldn't watch anymore. Principles man.
He wasn’t the only character they butchered. Chief is just awful
@@Woodyisasexybeast That's why I refered to him as "Major Chief" lol
More like Private Chief, showing the covenant his ass cheeks
The flood are one of the best things, halo has going for it.
Yeah and now keyes is dead from a gas explosion on reach
I'll Tell you this in the book keyes hold the flood for so long that master chief actually kill him when he punch is head in is flood form !
Yes. He held off the flood just long enough
Man had taco bell
Keys and chief were not friends. I don't think John would ever consider his fellow Spartans as friends but family
Bro, what? Of course they were friends. Just like Johnson was his friend.
@@Woodyisasexybeast why do you think they were friends?
Here are a few First Strike quotes that clearly imply he thought very fondly of the man:
“John stiffened as Captain Keyes appeared on screen and as the Flood consumed the Captain and his squad”.
“Three possible survivors out of the Pillar of Autumn’s total compliment of hundreds. He wished there was more. He wished Captain Keyes were here.”
Saving the best for last. “John remembered all those who had made a difference for him. Sam. James. CPO Mendez. Captain Keyes.”
Chief is also obviously very sad when recalling his death during Infinite.
@Woodyisasexybeast ok so in my mind I can and am fond of my cat and my blanket from childhood. I would not consider either of them to be my friend though.
At which point did Master chief and captain Keyes have the time together to form of bond of friendship?
@VeggiesOutFront your cat isn’t your friend? Of course it is. Your cat is a living entity that you share a bond with. You possess an affection for it. That’s absolutely a friend. If you don’t consider that a friend, then I have no idea what to tell you. My dogs are my friends, my wife is my friend, my father is my friend.
I just provided you with literal quotes solidifying my point that they’re friends. The amount of time they’ve spent together is irrelevant. The title of “friend” isn’t defined by an arbitrary time prerequisite.
Halo is even more terrifying than the flood.
Not even remotely. Having your neural components fried is not even remotely as terrifying as even the most normal shit the flood can do. And the flood is more powerful as well. Even the halo array cannot defeat it, only destroy the more complex flood forms. Spores would have to be killed manually, and as they are microscopic and distributed basically everywhere in the milky way, thats literally and figuratively impossible. The flood is so powerful they had to use miles of plot armor to even remotely hurt them in the main series, as realistically, they are undefeatable
What is worse sucumbing to the necromorphs or the flood?
You typically die BEFORE becoming a necromorph, so I would say that becoming flood bait is worse. 😅
what was he doing in the end ? was he killing flood soilers as he was infected or was he killing his own men there?
I’m not really sure, it’s kind of vague. Based on the exchange though, probably the flood. Keyes had incredible tenacity and balls of steal
@@Woodyisasexybeast amen to that
We need a halo game like deadspace, with the flood.
if a space marine was infected by a flood he would make the hivemind go crazy
A lot of people never read the books and were caught by surprise by the terminal footage. The books went deep, it was like the games were movies before the books were written. Tbh, they were, and they were pulled off better than G.O.T. And SW imo 😁
But yeah, the books go into great detail, such the Halo Book 2: The Flood, explains that Master Chief had time to go back to the Autumn after rendezvousing with Sgt Major Johnson and shower before continuing further exploration of the ring. Even mentions a scene where 343 Guilty Spark kidnapped a Sergeant by the name Marvin Mobuto to help clean out the flood around the index. Master Chief couldn’t believe how far the Sgt made it through that madness. Claimed that he must have been one bad S.O.B as he recovered Sgt Mobuto’s dog tags.
It’s all a good read and never too late to pick up the audiobooks on RUclips channels!
I’ve got a physical copy and have read it many times. The chief sections are mediocre but the rest of the book is great. I’ve made content about other parts of that book too. Jenkins, Yayap, Keyes and Marvin have all gotten their own videos
There was no terminal in CE. This was added in anniversary by 343
CE anniversary is CE.
@@Woodyisasexybeast nope, it’s CE anniversary.
Which is CE lol
@@Woodyisasexybeast nope, it’s an add on to CE by 343.
This is off topic, in Halo CE, you can jump, hold crouch and you will float midair, anyone know why that is? I can't find it on google
That’s only the case if you have acrophobia activated, which is a skull that allows you to fly.
@@Woodyisasexybeast I have skull that lets you fly, by double tapping A. But when I jump, then press and hold crouch, I float slowly to the ground. Is this a skull that is active?
That’s part of the same skull, yes.
@@Woodyisasexybeast Thank you!
Except the Flood quite literally couldn't do that. The outbreak on Installation 04 was small and the Flood were in the feral stage, acting on instinct rather than intellect. Its only when a Gravemind is formed that the Flood start acting with intelligence.
Have you watched this terminal or read the flood? They may have been in the feral stage but that does not mean they’re unintelligent. The flood directly speaks to Keyes in a very intelligent manner. He was inside a proto gravemind, therefore the early stages of a centralized intelligence were forming. Everything the flood was doing during that time was intelligent. They were attempting to flee the ring using the Pillar of Autumn or the Truth and Reconciliation. That requires intelligence.
In the book, keyes describes it as if his mind was being r*p3d
Yea their intellegent cause when they take over someone all of their memorys go back to the hive mind
Legalize Nuclear Arms against All Parasites
And they dont allow violence in infinite and 5
The push for T ratings even in things like forge is really weird to me. Halo is and will always be a violent franchise.
The terminal was added after the fact so idk a out that h1 from 343 the only good thing is the terminals they added
I have a much longer video that creates a very compelling argument for why I think the chief DID find them on my channel. I believe basically every in game collectible is actually canonically collected by the given protagonist.
I don’t think those terminals are in universe it’s mostly for the player to get some information
I have a much longer video about this subject on my channel. I believe all of the in game collectibles are actually found by the given protagonist.
The terminals are not for the chief they for the players .. such as overshields and active camouflage in the levels ..
I disagree. I have an entire, long form video dedicated to this topic where I go very in depth about every collectible in each Halo game. I believe all of the protagonists canonically collected all of the collectibles.
@@Woodyisasexybeast so you think the Skulls like the grunt party is canon? Because it’s a collectible
No. I don’t. Just lore collectibles.
Terminals, text files, audio files, things like that. Skulls are just Easter eggs.
@@Woodyisasexybeast ok but if thats the case, Chief would have known the flood exist in the 3 Mission, 3rd terminal, and that there are more halos and there is an Arc and what the Halos acually do.
If he knows all that, he woulnd be surprised from it..?
I mean the Terminals only exist in CEA and not in CE becaus its release was after the trilogy and i think its just some infos for the players who already know all that but not for chief himself.
The Terminals in Halo3 on the otherhand even get commented by Cortana so i think they are different.
Damn!
You know what is worst than the flood... 343.
I dont get why the flood is so hyped up by halo fans. I played Halo 1 as a KID and I was a cowardly kid and even then the flood didn't scare me and I got scared easily. I played Halo 3 alot over and over which is probably why the flood just became meh to me. They're more of a nuisance. One level im having fun shooting brutes, grunts and fighting the covenant and boom now im fighting these space zombies and I dread it every time cause I realize im getting to the point im fighting the flood and all the amusement I had just drains and I just tolerate it. The flood was annoying, especially on level cortana where they're just a nuisance and obstacles. Instead of a "Oh yeah let's do this!" attitude i'm more like "Alright guys let's get this over with" and just make my way through the flood wishing I was blowing up wraiths or something instead.
The flood are excellent from a narrative perspective. Outside of the games, they’re absolutely horrifying. They’re an eldritch cosmic horror, not just space zombies.
I’ve seen this opinion echoed a few times throughout the Halo community. That the flood isn’t fun to fight. I disagree though. While I do think some of the flood centric missions are annoying, such as Cortana or The Library, I still think they’re an exceptionally valuable narrative tool for Halo.
Funny theory but the terminals dont exist in lore they play videos of things mastercheif doesnt know about later on
Disagree. I have a much longer video on the subject on my channel. I believe each protagonist found every collectible in game.
The terminals themselves are not canon
It’s POSSIBLE that the terminals within CE and 2 aren’t canonically in the places you find them. But the protagonists of every other halo game absolutely find the terminals. This video is an argument for why I think Chief DID find this terminal. I have a much longer breakdown elaborating on the subject on my channel.
Brother the terminals are there for the player. They're not cannon
That’s up for debate. The terminals were found, in canon, during halo 3, odst, 4, Reach, 5 and likely Infinite. I see no reason why it would be any different in CE or 2, even if they were added after the fact. I have a long form video going over this very concept that explains it all.
It's like Joe Biden's last brain cell
I wouldn't say keys is a father. Hes more likely a brother
Not really. Keyes was there when John was conscripted. He had a thing with Halsey. If Halsey is like his mom, Keyes would be something like a father figure
@@Woodyisasexybeast so then if I had a thing with your mom then under that technicality I would be your father figure? Lol I swear it was just a fling
I mean, they had a kid together. Miranda. That’s only half of what I said as well. Keyes was there when John was conscripted. That’s important. Also, I said “potential” because it’s a little unclear how John felt. We know he cared a lot about him and respected him greatly. We also know he was deeply affected by his death but that’s it. It is possible that he felt some kind of paternal connection with Keyes
Halo CEA, halo CE did not have terminals