The Fly 2 (1989) - Martin Discovers The Truth.
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
- Powerful scene from the 1989 sci-fi horror movie The Fly 2 (1989). In this scene, a furious Martin (Eric Stoltz) breaks into the records room and finds a videotape of Beth and himself having sex. But, Martin also discovers another videotape of his deceased father Seth (Jeff Goldblum) whose face is lumpy and discoloured. Martin learns Seth didn't die from a rapid aging disease and that he had got fused with a fly in a Telepod experiment and he became a mutant creature called Brundlefly. Bartok (Lee Richardson) enters the records room and tells Martin that he will soon undergo the same transformation like Seth and that he intends to expose his transformation and the Telepods in his plot for world domination. A angry and hurt Martin exits the records room and flees and Bartok orders Scorby and the guards to stop Martin escaping from the complex. Amazing acting by Eric Stoltz.
Poor Martin is brutally devastated, his only father figure just stabbing him in the heart with little to no remorse.
He was already on to bartok being bad before this. That’s why he installed the password on the computer earlier he obviously didn’t have time since he ran away as fast as he could. He either installed it after the dog or after he found out his room was bugged
He only saw him as a tool that could make his company grow
@@leerogish7223 he was
Let’s be honest, what happened to Bartok in the end was well-deserved karma.
Bartok was really aiming to have his cake and eat it, too. He gets Martin as the first of the new species, and he gets perfected teleportation and "biological exploration" which his company could then make a fortune on and get full credit for. What a screw job. A monster creating other monsters.
Despite the sequel not being as emotionally gripping as cronenberg's movie in my opinion, I thought the sequel had impressive make-up effects like the original and even though this movie did try to copy certain things from the jeff goldblum movie like the love story, I liked it how this movie did explore the company that Seth worked for and explored the cure for Martin's mutation!
It had a happy ending for the son like Return of the Fly did. Martinfly is the form Seth thought he would become but ended up transforming into a mutated mess since he was an unnatural creation through science.
Chris Walas' intention was to make the sequel as a monster horror movie rather than a love tragedy/horror movie that Cronenberg did with his film.
@@Theshark15z Yeah, but the sequel still had a love story with Martin and Beth and it didn't work as well as the Jeff/Geena romance!
It would destroy the whole story if Martin in his immature state of mind at this point, would be taken in awe by how his "dad" tells him he's going to become the most awesome monster in the world, and getting all prideful and accommodating about it. He's a child in adult form you know. LOL!
Why is this movie so underrated? This scene alone is so emotional. Imagine how Martin must have felt, having learned the truth on why he was always so different from other humans, why he was aging so fast, and why he was beginning to turn into a fly-human hybrid. And then he had to learn that the one he looked up and loved like a father, had manipulated him ever since he was born just so he could study him and use him just to get rich. One can only imagine how much angst, sorrow and anger Martin felt upon learning that all he ever believed in was a lie.
Again, why is this movie so underrated?
“You want this to happen?” Poor kid…
I remember when I first saw this movie and I saw this scene. It was really heartbreaking because of the fact that Martin trusted someone who he loved like a father figure since he was born and was just using him for genetic experiments because of his fly human hybrid genes that he got from his father Seth Brundle. And then on top of that seeing his actual biological father in that video already transforming into a mutant hybrid fly, must’ve been a real shocker for him.
What Bartok should’ve said, “Nobody wants this to happen, but we can’t stop it!” But I guess he was too much of an asshole for that.
He's a liar and a manipulator.
See, in that brief clip, you can see that Stathis clearly loves Veronica. His only thought is to help her, but Bartok and those monsters forced her to give birth to the mutant and that killed her and broke him.
I didn't know this. I did watch the first movie when it first came out, but hadn't watched the sequel until some time later. Didn't realize the 'father' was such an awful man. I'm very glad he suffered at the end.
I don't know how the old guy could live with himself.its good how he lost everything since he didn't care about others.
All Bartok cared about what was world domination and Martin and the Telepods was his key to total power.
@Daniel Williamson personally I think it would have just been kinder to shoot him in the head.
@Daniel Williamson good awnser I still can't fathom what he was trying to accomplish and that was a 1988 film.
Right and me either (that I don't know how the old guy could live with himself, either, knowing what he was going to put his son through.) I guess he was very greedy and selfish.
It’s a worthy sequel, just isn’t better than the original. But I do believe had David Cronenberg directed it, it would have been much better. I’ve also read an article with Jeff Goldblum saying he was interested in making a sequel. Only if David Cronenberg would direct it.
The Fly 2 is not good, not great. It's not a masterpiece like the 1986 film. Chris Walas did a good job directing the movie.
@@danielwilliamson6180 ok Chris Walas”s effects was the only thing that was good about The Fly 2, and John Getz”s Cameo as Stathis Borans. Other than those 2 factors, it’s a forgotten sequel. The Original is damn near 36 years old, and is just as rememberable as the 1958 Version, in fact maybe more do to Jeff Goldblum”s Brilliant Performance!
There would be any need for him to do sequel anyway, he died at the end of the first movie!
@@jermainehaslam5634 in this day and age, anybody can be brought back.
Truth hurts sometimes
I feel sorry for him
Yes. Bartok lied to him about everything.
Even after everything bartok did to Martin he still tried to use the pods to turn bartok human again only for bartok to mutate into a flying version of martinfly and tried to kill Martin.
Jeff Goldblum was uncredited on this movie.
Why?
Remember, Seth Brundle died and he only appears on video. The first video Martin watches which Ronnie interviews Seth was a deleted scene from The Fly. The 2nd video which Seth told Ronnie that he has been fused with a fly was from the 1st movie. However, in that scene, Ronnie didn't record it.
@@danielwilliamson6180 You're right, because Ronnie (Veronica Quaife) was rolled by another actress.
@@garydj27 They dubbed Geena Davis over with Saffron Henderson who played Ronnie at the beginning of the movie.
too RUclips and Apple tv, please make this movie available for purchase on your streaming platforms.
@@skyrimwarrior It should be on Disney+
After the events of The Fly in 1986.
Yes. The Fly 2 took place after Seth Brundle died.
I never understood why there's a video of Seth explaining what happened to him during the first time he used the telepods if nobody was filming it
Originally, Jeff Goldblum was going to be brought back and they were going to have him in makeup and record being interviewed by Ronnie off-camera talking about his mutation which Martin would watch. But, the idea was dropped.
@@danielwilliamson6180
That's one of the things I don't like about this film, how out of nowhere we get footoage of Seth talking about his fusion with The Fly when Veronica wasn't even recording him!
@@jermainehaslam5634 or maybe Bartok had Seth's place bugged the whole time to spy on him (he did say in the first film he was working for Bartok and building the telepods for them) just like Martin, that seems like the only logical explanation for it. I've always kinda theorized and suspected that even though the movie never confirms it.
He filmed himself and so did his GF . She was doing a story on him.
Bartock was a monster Martin never asked for this nor did Seth and Veronica I mean letting Martin suffer his father's fate that makes him the Devil
Yes. He wanted to exploit Martin and the Telepods as part of his mad scheme for world domination.
@@danielwilliamson6180 World domination? He's mad
I'm a bigger fan of the soundtrack to both films, but now I cannot watch them anymore. Too many triggers for me.I think it was in an issue of Cinefex that referenced the "Timex" scene. From the dailies there was such an emotional response to the puppet, they added some more articulation for the euthansia scene.
To this day I cannot tell the dog story to anyone without choking up.
I understand. I didn't like the dog scene either. The same year I bought Fly 2 on DVD, my late grandparent's dog Beau passed away. His death was one of the saddest days of my life and his death left me depressed and heart broken as he was my friend.
He wanted this to happen to be mutated.
He's becoming his father
2:48 Had to give him some sense of hope? What kind of answer is that?
I think it was by Bartok saying to Martin about a new age of Biological exploration. Sounds to me like a new species of lifeform by using Martin as the prototype. I think that what Bartok meant by then using such life forms to control the world. How the telepods would be used to create such creatures I don’t know. Telepods obviously transport matter and objects I don’t know how it would create matter. I’m nerd lol have seen this movie many times over the years I have it on DVD which I bought in 2007. The FLY is my favorite movie the the fly 2 is a good sequel not great but I give Chris Walas a credit for a first time director making a good movie.
I am beginning to think you're right. Originally, the sequel was going to have Seth Brundle brought back via cloning. But it was dropped.
Probably they would teleport two different life forms Simultaneously to genetically fuse them like how Seth did with they fly and through much trail and error resulting in many painful deformities they would eventually create new species and be in a shit ton of trouble with the Canadian government as a result
Maybe creating an hybrid, then took the sperm and make a superspecies.
The pods can create transgenics. It is even faster and more efficient than everything . Alson, Bartok earlier comment to Martin that it would enable surgeries and transplantations be performed without incisions.
Shouldn't the son be only one quarter fly since his father was half and half and his mother was full human
True. However due to the mutated fly genes he inherited from his father, Martin still transformed but unlike Seth, his transformation was more rapid and less painful and it was a more natura.
Seth and the fly from the first movie fused on a molecular level and became a new species called Brundlefly by Seth. So Martin is half human/Brundlefly technically. His father was like the proto version of Martin's final form.
Unlike his father his mind and heart remained fully human. He wasn’t affected by insect politics which is why he didn’t hurt Beth or the attack dog and how he was able to successfully break into bay 17, subdue the guards and become human again unlike his father who savagely smashed hisbway out of the pod only to become fused with it
@@danielwilliamson6180 Indeed. Martin was, in a sense, BORN to be what he is. As opposed to Brundlefly, he is lethal, fast, and has most of his mind intact.
Why can't you buy this movie
I bought it on DVD in 2006.
So Bartok was going to use the telepods as a cloning mechanism to create a fly army using Martin as the model ?
That was never hinted at or confirmed in the movie.
They probably planned to do a lot of mixing of species to create new hybrid ones
No just the benefits from both.
@@danielwilliamson6180 in an earlier draft that was written for the sequel. The Bartok corp. Was going to use it for that reason and held Veronica captive against her will. Part of Seth's conscience was trapped in the systems computer and he was communicating with her that way.
@@Theshark15z I read that in the trivia on imdb.com.
When Beth and Martin were video taped in bed, that really pissed me off 😡
I agree. Bartok had no right.
This film would been a lotta times better if Keanu Reeves accepted Martin's role. Yes, Keanu Reeves was one of the actor choices.
Alright, Eric Stoltz was no Jeff Goldblum, but, he was good in the role. He did look as if he could had been Jeff and Geena's son.
so he tooks his genetics from his father ???
Yes. Seth had sex again with Veronica after he teleported and got his genes fused with the fly and Martin inherited those mutant genes.
@@danielwilliamson6180 "Like father, like son," the trailer said.