When you parked it up I thought-what a lovely looking bike. There’s something about the BMW that say a Multistrada doesn’t have, just my opinion ..looking forward to seeing more content on it. 😊👍
Looks identical to my 2018 1200 Exclusive apart from the different cylinder heads. Mine has the same electronic wizardry. The emergency call will detect if you've been in a crash. It can tell the difference between dropping the bike and being in a severe accident. If you have had a slow speed fall, it will automatically call the help centre and an operative will speak through it to see if you are alright. If you've had a big one, like a sudden impact, it will immediately call for emergency assistance wherever you are. Theres a lot of piece of mind with that.
Thanks, another fantastic review. Been using my gsa on a daily commute which includes a lot of lane splitting. Initially, for the first week anyway, that was nerve wrecking with such a large beast, but you very quickly get used to the dimensions, and controlling the power. I’ve had many bikes in addition to the gsa specifically for commuting and riding off road because I thought a gsa is simply too big, too heavy or too whatever to do these chores on, but I was wrong, dead wrong in fact. This is truly one bike that can do it all comfortably. My oldest gsa just came up on 65,000 kms and even though in one mind I’m considering a new 1250 gsa when it comes out, I still love that bike to bits, and apart from the front tire pressure monitor requiring replacing, it’s been ticking like a Swiss clock. Besides, having such a wonderful bike which you actually use daily without pampering it too much is rather liberating.
Mr. Flyer- Well your videos have had an influence on me and I just yesterday took delivery of a 2019 R1250GS. I can tell that its easy handling is going to be a positive change from the old reliable R1100RT that it replaces and of course the peppiness of the bigger engine is immediately apparent. My wife has been encouraging this change of bikes (what a gal) and my analyzing the various choices of machines pointed inevitably to the GS as having the best features for our touring riding on mostly paved roads with a few dirt roads occasionally needing to be traversed as well. The Vloggers on the internet gave a wide and informative set of reviews on likely motorcycles to buy, so include yourself for the credit or blame for another happy bike buyer!
That was a very thorough and extremely useful review, TMF. Timely too. It seems, however, that I'm yet another of the 2014 R1200GS owners who is entirely satisfied with my current bike and sees no compelling reason to upgrade... even if I had the readies. But what a cracking machine! Cheers! 👍
Totally agree on the best quality graphics on the BMW TFT screens. This new bike is absolutely beautiful as are all BMW’s. Put that bike in “Enduro Pro” and life is very worth living. Good job here Matey! I always say...Life is short, buy the damn bike. Ride safe Matey.
Just bought the Exclusive version and found that if you bring the rear seat all the way forward it gives great lower back support. Engine is as smooth a silk and the Bridgestone tyres gives confidence . Going to have fun with the setting up of the TFT scree. Buying lots of extras for it.
SOS button clarification. Hi TMF, Just to clarify, the SOS button works on two ways: 1 - MANUALLY: if you need it you can press it yourself (for example when you're stuck on the side of the road and just want to call the BMW assistance); 2 - AUTOMATICALLY: if the bike falls the system detects it and calls for help automatically, although you have a few moments to stop the call. If you don't stop the call, BMW will then call you back and if you don't answer (for example because you're hurt and can't even reach the bike) they'll activate emergency care automatically and send it to your location.
my bike has multiple modes , regulated by my right hand on the throttle grip..and ABS via my right hand and right foot...traction control by my left hand ...lean angle traction control governed by my sphincter !! great review TMF a lovely bike another one for the 20 years time used bike list 👍☮❤😁
@@Moonfleet41 hey brother you're gonna have to give us a walk round the tiger . I loved the old 955 , never understood the 1050 but the 1200 looks like a proper bike ...like the old africa twin ..ye know the real one 👍☮❤
@@springy-2112 Real one?, Philistine...that was a remake.. the real granddaddy adventure was the XLV 750 before all that trendy Africa business it looked like a bike wearing Ronald McDonald's clothes... ...and before supermotos came the Gilera Nordwest... ahh, happy days, no brakes, bendy frames, and carburettters.. Now we better stop this or TMF will be posting BMW brochures through or doors... on fire...!
@@Moonfleet41 serves him right for having an acronym as a name !!! TMF , BMW !!? the rest of us have to go through life with real names like Del Boy or Springy.........oh ! that argument doesn't seem to work ...doh !! Hey TMF ! we the popular peoples front of you tube demand to know your real mame , afterr all what have you ever done for us ? apart from superb bike reviews..oh and gear reviews..and touring videos and tinkering with bikes..and readers rides and and and .....and........ ok i quit 👍👍☮☮❤❤
Another great review TMF, I get the impression BMW's main issue at the moment is GS market saturation - everybody who would buy one already has one and there isn't enough reason to upgrade!
Great honest review as I would expect from you TMF. I had a look at the Exclusive in our local dealer this morning. The sales man came on a bit too strong for my liking. I told him I had a 2017 Rallye Sport and he went on to list all the extras already on my Rallye as 'new' on the 1250. Clueless and trying too hard. Looks great but so does my mint R1200GS. I rarely get all of the beans out of my 1200 so I'm not sure I will miss out on the extra grunt. I was impressed by your turn of speed on the damp roads. You little tinker! I always had you down as captain sensible....... Keep up the good work.
Great review, see people’s concerns about technology, there is more to go wrong. However my car is filled with similar technology as most new cars have a raft of electronics now and I jump in that everyday without giving a second thought.
Very true. I recall people saying they wouldn't buy a car with electric windows in case they went wrong. Hard to find a car now with manual window winders.
Probably the best review I have seen since they started appearing on funny-tube,covers all bases-and describes the bells and whistles in plain language.Look forward to moreeeeeeee 🇮🇪🏍
got mine in aug. to sit along side my 2010 rt. it's a beasst. for me the RT is amazing on very long distance trips but i kind of lost the excitement on short runs. the GS is inspiring to ride whether long distance or going to the store
One good thing to point out Is that BMW are now offering 3 years warranty and full European breakdown cover with all new bikes. This is worth around £500 a year if you buy it with a bike out of warranty. A very good selling point over other manufacturers. I pointed this out to my local dealer as they had no advertising regarding the 3 year warranty in the dealership. I informed one or two browsers of this when I was in and they didn't know about it. TMF. Maybe you could mention this on your next GS vlog? No I am not on commission. I just think it's worth knowing if your in the market for a new bike. Thanks for your superb videos. Never miss them.
That will be one of the reasons for the increase in price then. They give you nothing, you pay for it. For those on PCP it just something else to contribute to. Seems more reasonable on a monthly drip.
That's because in the UK, people are being arrested for reckless driving after posting videos of them speeding or moving through traffic too fast on RUclips.
Another benchmark video Mr TMF, thanks for sharing this. I bought my first new GS in 1994, it was the R1100 gs with yellow seat and red fuel tank, it was rated at 70bhp, virtually half what the latest one has although much less power it was a great bike and I loved it. Ride safe and enjoy the new bike, it's only a matter of time before you buy one I'm sure. Cheers.
Good work TMF. I love my 2015 Triple Black. Only have 1 negative and that is the very clunky gearbox. So, would only upgrade for that reason ... and yes, that TFT screen would just be the added bonus. I use mine for a London City commute ... 50 mile round trip ... about 2-3 days a week. Quite doable. I can keep up with the smallest of bikes through the traffic. Mostly it is not about the bike size but how you read the traffic and identify the bigger gaps. Some days is it a drag though when it gets gridlocked! Keep 'em coming. Ride safe.
good review.....i can see why so many run off with one of them bikes. Not for me tho, a bmw cramped with electronics and newly designed valve adjustment system makes me very nervous.....thats just a recall waiting to happen...
Hi TMF - I am also a GS fan, but I am concerned that the GS is not becoming so complicated that with so many technological things to go wrong - statistics denote that one of them will.... Auto suspension setting, hill hold assist, lean angle Traction control, ABS, gear shift assist, the list goes on and on ... and now adjustable cams..... if I was crossing Africa, I would be very nervous. Maybe BMW know that most riders buy these for European road trips.... I will be interested to see a 3 years owners review. Cheers !
BMW is a premium brand.. It's for people with money.. Sad but true.. You can either afford it or you can't. Having said that they are fairly reliable and unless it's 10 years old you won't have much of an isssue with anything I don't think. Also you are covered by a warranty and most things that could fail won't leave you stranded somewhere. Hope that helps lol !!
Phil Harnett - completely agree. Its too big, too heavy, too complicated and too expensive - its more like a full dress tourer these days rather than a credible off road machine......
I wouldn't really want to cross Africa on anything with any electronics except for maybe a starter. If you have any breakdowns anywhere outside of South Africa, you'll be happy that you'll be able to fix the basics.
Personally I found my R80GS to be a better all round bike than my R1000GS. Love the instrument/sat nav setup. Screen and comfortable seating position, shaft drive.R80 had a 32 litre tank gave the bike a terrific range.
Yep, lovely bike, looking forward to the seeing the Adventure version though. I'm of the same opinion regarding the cost upgrading, I ride the first model GSA LC (2014) and the upgrade just isn't worth the £6-8k IMO. And I quite like the more grunty agricultural engine and gearbox over the more refined and smother newer model. I don't really care about keyless or quickshift TBH but the TFT is very nice but not worth the price to upgrade.
Think that might be rather optimistic - my 17 plate TE excl would get 12K private (assuming a buyer with that sort of money, who could otherwise go to a dealer and get one for 12.75-13K with 2 years approved warranty), and probably not much more than 10K pa.
I want a Supermoto/Sport Tourer version(17" front wheel). An R1250R would probably be more suited to my needs but I like the rugged looks of the GS better. Good work, Mr Flyer !
Wow, I'm impressed! Was only a day or so ago that I said I was looking forward to your review of the 1250, and you delivered!! Very nice bike, if most of the twin cyl vibes are gone it'd be a no-brainer.
For the first time in my life I've got the cash to buy one. They aren't on sale here is 'Straya yet, at least according to the website. I look forward to a test ride when they get here..
Tyres,tyres,tyres. Seen a gsa written off due to a low side due to the weight of the bike and all the " extras" on semi knobblies. The gs really would benefit from 17 inch street rims. Nice bike mind.
Looks interesting, but this is getting on for £20k with the luggage and options catalogue raided. Very pricey indeed. Meanwhile my Suzuki vstrom 1000 was on the road with three box aluminium luggage (SW Motech) and centre stand for £10k. Not the kudos of BMW , but as a recent BM owner which proved less than satisfactory, I’m very happy with the Suzuki, put petrol in the tank, oil the chain, and it goes like stink.
With all the interest and sales you generate, giving your time and effort, creating this brilliant channel, BMW would be mad not to upgrade your GS for more TMF Friday adventures. Are you listening BMW?
Received in the UK in just a few days? We should see them in Australia in a few years. :) Still waiting for the mid-range GS models, I have a few more grey hairs now. :)
Nice review, good info and get your feedback as an experienced GS rider. In regards to the SOS; when you fall over or crash, the BMW help-center will call you automatically, and if you don't (or can't) answer they will send help your way, because the system knows your location.
Couldn’t agree more, and I always would, but it’s the normalising if excessive bike pricing that annoys me. Selling primarily through PCP has allowed manufacturers to up prices significantly, because its ‘only £150 a month’
@@timdubber8577 '6000 miles per year' .... you know what kinda bike this is 6000 is nothing I've done 9k on my r1 just in my general area (1-200 miles per trip) never mind one of these things 😂
I'm afraid I will NEVER buy a new motorcycle ever again. They are simply all too expensive now. Technology is great but it's expensive. The way forward is definitely buying low mileage minters where some fool has decided to buy brand new. I'll let someone else lose a third of the bikes value the moment it leaves the dealers showroom. I readily admit the BMW GS series of bikes are awesome machines BUT - I fear that all this technology will eventually ruin the machine as it becomes impossible to bodge/repair outside a major city. The world travellers venerable cable tie may have finally become redundant. Rider modes are bollocks too (my Bandit has one - it's called a twist grip and 40 years riding experience). As for TFT panels - are you so easily conned into liking something because it has got pretty colours. It's about time we all returned to motorcycle roots and realised that motorcycles were invented to provide the working class man with a cheap reliable method of transport..... The motorcycle manufacturers have turned that idea on its head by clever marketing ploys which apparently work for them very well. Wake up and smell the coffee like I have. Don't laugh, I ride a Suzuki GSX 1250 FA - probably THE most capable budget sports tourer all-rounder ever made. It's a 2014 Bandit 1250 with full fairing at heart. Cost me only £5K in Mint condition with 1,200 miles on clock. The idiot who bought it new was apparently scared by its torque. Awesome tree stump puller with a 150 MPH top end. Laugh all you like, my bike will piss a GS on the fast lane of the motorway. A big, reliable, fast and comfortable mile muncher for only 5K. Don't forget you can tour the world on a 50cc Puch Maxi or a Honda Fireblade ! It's been done on both those bikes. I'd pick a 600 - 800 bike for a RTW trip not a 1200cc bloated beast like this model. Best rely on the rich fools buying these things new and dumping them weeks later after only 1,000 miles. Save yourself a third instantly. This BMW here costs £18K plus !?!????? That's more than a really good, reliable and comfortable car or SUV ! I'll hang on to my Bandit 1250 with a fairing. It will do almost everything one of these pretentious over-bloated / complicated things will do (some things even better) - all for £5,000. Stay safe
I respect your view of preferring less complicated bikes and getting good value. Please however don't refer to buyers of new bikes as fools. I like my bikes new but that's my choice. It certainly doesn't make me a fool!
virtual vid Apology due. I accept what you say and apologize for causing offence or hurt. I meant fools who buy the bikes and then dump them after a few weeks NOT those who buy them and keep them. All the best.
My next bike is more than likely the 2017 Kawasaki Z900, primarily because it has no electronics other than the EU mandatory ABS. It will be new to me, rather than new, as servicing 30,000 miles during a 2 year warranty by a Kawasaki dealer would be very, very expensive. Certainly wouldn't wish to own something like a GS out of warranty.
i know where you're coming from, i bought a 1200 Multistrada with 7000 on the clock and 4 years old, i paid £9k, far better than the £15k+ the previous single owner paid, for effectively a new looking bike, Happy days
Perfect person to review this bike! Lucky man! Very hard to get press bikes here in Canada, have to wait for BMW events sadly. Keep up the good work! Cheers from Montreal!
The TE edition seems to be specific to the UK, in the Netherlands you can choose 3 packs with extra's: "comfort", "dynamic" and "touring". "Comfort adds heated grips, the shield in front of the grips (I forget the proper English term for that :-/ ), the type pressure monitoring and chrome exhaust pipes. "Dynamic" adds daylight running light (the U on its side), riding modes, shift assist and white indicators. "Touring" add cruise control, dynamic ESA, keyless drive, pannier mounts and the mount for the Nav VI. The combination of the items in the package gives a small discount on the sum, just enough that you don't really choose to leave anything out. The Adventure is set to be announced in Milan. I'll be exchanging my 2013 LC for a 1250GS in dynamic style, delivery expected in November :-) I can't wait
My R1200R Sport had the choice of "comfort" "dynamic" and "touring" packs each with various combinations of extras which usually provides a small saving on choosing extras individually
Bought my superb 2015 Triple Black as approved used, same again next year for the 1250, used to hate them but now love them...awesome piece of kit, shame they’re so popular😜.
Hey missenden flyer. Just for your information when wanting to change riding modes on the fly no need to press the clutch lever in. Just shut off the throttle completely and the new mode that you have selected changes. Hope that’s of use to you. Great video again by the way. 👍
I always enjoy your videos. Purchased a r1250gs a week ago. Love it! Considering taking an off road course in order to be comfortable taking advantage of all its awesome capabilities.
Just taken delivery of my 2022 1250 GS Rallye a week ago, absolutely fantastic !! Although she’s a heavy lass, she handles like a dream. Greetings from Johannesburg, South Africa 🇿🇦
Great review as usual, seems like a worthy and capable update, the BMW GS is unofficially 40 years old since development first started so you'd expected they got it sorted by now. Looking forward to your more extended reviews, particularly in the Grand Canary's again ?
Thanks for a great review. I'm debating whether to change, I agree with your point, £11-12K plus my 9000 mile full spec 2014 GS is a lot of money to find.
You have convinced me. I've just ordered a GS TE, in blue with cross spoke wheels, sat nav 6 and panniers. Delivery is after the UK leaves the EU. Hope it does not get delayed too much! I ordered SW motech upper and lower stainless crash bars, they arrived this morning. The BMW dealer agreed to fit them. Thanks for your great channel, you've been in inspiration. I've been off bikes for about 20 years. But I've have a few lessons and bought a Honda 125, getting along fine with that. Have you ever had advanced bike training?
Congratulations David - and the only advanced training I've had was the met police BikeSafe course, if you google it you may find my video on it if you're interested.....cheers - TMF
Hey TMF. Just an update on the SOS button. The technology detects if you have had an accident and the severity of the collision. It then tries to contact you. if nobody answers the call from the SOS services, they will then take your GPS location and pass it on to emergency services ( handy if you are up in the Alps and go over one of those sheer drops) Also you can press the SOS button as you quite rightly eluded to. It is a handy safety device for mine, so why would you get rid as one of your earlier readers pointed out ? There is nothing more to pay and if you have a bump, do nothing and help will come.
I kept looking at that screen and thinking "I'm sure the redline was lower a minute ago". That's an awesome feature to restrict the redline until it's up to temp, reminds me of the BMW cars.
Another successful report ! engaging as always, thanks for a great informative VLOG, cant wait for the RALLYE version report. Holding thumbs for a sunny day !
Thanks for the review TMF.......so would you upgrade from your current GS? I personally don’t see the incremental benefit outweighs the cost. TFT is alluring though but that in itself is another grand or two.
I've got my new 2018 Goldwing and came close to getting a GSA. I miss the adventure style bike. I had the Super Tenere before. Thanks TMF for the awesome review.
Amazing bike TMF. I have last years GSA Rallye, I love it, I have no issues with the size and weight, and I’m 5’6”. And if anyone thinks the GS is in capable off road, check out the BMW off road course in Wales, I did it this year on a GS Rallye, best time I’ve had for years. ps, I love keyless, no key fob flapping about and so handy at the pumps.
Very nice, but in the same boat as you. Still happy with my 2015 GS, although losing the sometimes clunky low down gear changes & gaining a Nav VI & TFT would be nice. Lucky you.🏍👍
I rode a 1250gs on Monday. I agree with your comments. My RT has manual adjust suspension and I found the auto adjust suspension great. As for the engine definitely noticeable when making progress. Took it home to show the Mrs, She thought the spoked gold wheels the demo had were cheap looking. Yes its a good bike £16250 for a TE version. No luggage of course.
I did a test ride on 1250 GS. I am 5’4’. The wind screen in high position I need to see through the screen . In low position it was ok. The view is not comfortable and images are blurred. I would change to a after market one without many sharp bends etc. Beautiful bike. Thank you
What a great dealership Bahnstormer in Maidenhead are. They know the value of your reviews! BMW Motoradd on the other hand do not, they are missing a trick Great review thank you
It is all right, we will do the commenting. BMW Motorrad GB, don't be miserable ***&&, give TMF access to your models. He is probably selling more GS'es than some of your dealerships.... P.S Great editing...
I just test rode an R1250 GS HP - it is without question an amazing bike. I have a 2017 triumph explorer and honestly it doesn’t come close to the bmw. I have put deposit down ana fingers crossed will get in a few weeks ! I’m getting the HP cos I just love the colour scheme and wheels - the engine is incredible so much better than the 1200 I test rode.... honestly the 1250 is great
TheMissendenFlyer you have put me in debt Mr flyer....the TFT is the best one - it’s with every penny - doubt I’ll change for several years - bmw NZ also giving me 50 % off standard seats too- I’ll get the crash bars screen etc from Horing ??
Another great review, 93k subs now is just incredible. That’s actually more than a capacity crowd at Wembley stadium for a good perspective on your audience.
Just the man for the moment! If anyone should review a GS, its Mr Flyer himself! I've seen a bunch of these reviews by the so called "Pros", and this review told me much more! Well done groover! Can't wait for more in-depth review on her by you. So now for the $33K question! (that's what they cost here in OZ). Mr Flyer, you rode the GSA in one of your reviews (white one) and you fell in love with it. If money is not an issue, is it the GSA or this new GS? Cheers groover ;-)
Don Ross: My missus and daughter have been pushing me to buy the GS for the last 2 years. Mr Flyers review on that white/blue GSA was a ripper. His voice said it all, he was just about in love! I started thinking since its probably going to be my doubling bike, should I go the GSA? I know when i'm on my own, Id rather have the GS, but I'm wondering if the GSA's suspension is better than the GS for 2up. Only a test ride will tell I guess. But once I heard the torques up on the new GS to the 140's (NM's) I almost wet my pants! My other bikes got 144nm of torque and it has to be one of the most fun rides I've ever had. If the GS has got that kind of pull, then I don't think the GSA's going to compete. Cheers groover ;-)
Yep! It looks like i'm going that way as well! I'm sure his other business is selling sand to the arabs, & ice to the eskimos! I had no intentions buying a GS, even when I went to pick up my brand new s1000RR in '16. The dealer attempted to talk me into a GS. I looked at it and was intimidated in even siting on one! Rode the new bike home & weeks later started to follow the Flyer. Then the thoughts of "should I have bought that instead" were running through my head! Its now 2 years later, & the RR went 2 days ago. Im cashed up and waiting for the GS to arrive here in OZ. They say mid dec. Will be a nice xmas gift to myself! Cheers groover ;-)
Looks like a great road bike. The extra weight and BMW’s recent track record for reliability issues prompted me to buy another brand. For BMW’s sake, I hope their new motor is dependable in the long run.
Most people do not realise that the difference between the GS, Adventure and low chassis options are down to fork travel. By reducing seat height the models ability the fork travel reduces making the bike harsher and more vulnerable to impacts its on and off road capabilities. For me a low chassis version is purely tarmac on reasonable roads. Sorry guys or as this channel would say Kids. It’s a cheaper version at at a premium.
Thank you TMF for a very quick review since the bike is only out a few days ago. I saw all four colours at the launch on Saturday at Douglas park Motorrad in East Kilbride and liked the exclusive and rally over the other two. I have a 2017 GSA which I love. I am told the 1250 GSA will be available next month however the only problem with these new bikes arriving is that the rest of us who have a GS or GSA will see our bike devalued due to the new model coming out. I realise that's the way it is however it means if we want to buy the new one we will get even less for our trade in. A win win for BMW. I am going to "try" and keep mine so I hope the new GSA is not too attractive.
Great review cheers TMF. New gloves sir ?? Also don’t know if it’s me but the audio sounded slightly distorted on this video, never noticed it before and I am an avid viewer and I was using my same ear phones. Just a heads up you might want to check. Thanks again buddy 👍🏍
Well spotted! Different helmet to usual and mic was positioned a little too close I reckon....yes newish gloves, had them for a while (Gold top) - a review will be forthcoming!
TheMissendenFlyer cheers TMF, look forward to glove review, I bought 2 pairs recently, a pair of winter Spada and a pair of summer Alpinestars. Appears I have long thumbs and find the right gloves are a challenge, took me ages 👍🏍
Great review, pleasant and easy to follow narration that is informative and perfectly relevant to all types of bikers. Thanks for braving the poor weather in this video. I'll gladly subscribe and check out old and new video from now on. Cheers!
Yeah talking about repairs... I've got hit by a rusty shaft and a week later... the alternator. The joys and pains. I hope they fixed all these issues.
When you parked it up I thought-what a lovely looking bike. There’s something about the BMW that say a Multistrada doesn’t have, just my opinion ..looking forward to seeing more content on it. 😊👍
Looks identical to my 2018 1200 Exclusive apart from the different cylinder heads. Mine has the same electronic wizardry. The emergency call will detect if you've been in a crash. It can tell the difference between dropping the bike and being in a severe accident. If you have had a slow speed fall, it will automatically call the help centre and an operative will speak through it to see if you are alright. If you've had a big one, like a sudden impact, it will immediately call for emergency assistance wherever you are. Theres a lot of piece of mind with that.
Thanks, another fantastic review. Been using my gsa on a daily commute which includes a lot of lane splitting. Initially, for the first week anyway, that was nerve wrecking with such a large beast, but you very quickly get used to the dimensions, and controlling the power. I’ve had many bikes in addition to the gsa specifically for commuting and riding off road because I thought a gsa is simply too big, too heavy or too whatever to do these chores on, but I was wrong, dead wrong in fact. This is truly one bike that can do it all comfortably. My oldest gsa just came up on 65,000 kms and even though in one mind I’m considering a new 1250 gsa when it comes out, I still love that bike to bits, and apart from the front tire pressure monitor requiring replacing, it’s been ticking like a Swiss clock. Besides, having such a wonderful bike which you actually use daily without pampering it too much is rather liberating.
Same thing man. Needed up using my gas more then the R nine T
What about the 850 ?
Thanks from a Yank who is considering a purchase . I've seen your reviews of other bikes and been impressed...this is no exception. Thank you
I love how the redline shortens as the engine is getting warmer.
Mr. Flyer- Well your videos have had an influence on me and I just yesterday took delivery of a 2019 R1250GS. I can tell that its easy handling is going to be a positive change from the old reliable R1100RT that it replaces and of course the peppiness of the bigger engine is immediately apparent. My wife has been encouraging this change of bikes (what a gal) and my analyzing the various choices of machines pointed inevitably to the GS as having the best features for our touring riding on mostly paved roads with a few dirt roads occasionally needing to be traversed as well. The Vloggers on the internet gave a wide and informative set of reviews on likely motorcycles to buy, so include yourself for the credit or blame for another happy bike buyer!
Congratulations!
That was a very thorough and extremely useful review, TMF. Timely too. It seems, however, that I'm yet another of the 2014 R1200GS owners who is entirely satisfied with my current bike and sees no compelling reason to upgrade... even if I had the readies. But what a cracking machine!
Cheers! 👍
Totally agree on the best quality graphics on the BMW TFT screens. This new bike is absolutely beautiful as are all BMW’s. Put that bike in “Enduro Pro” and life is very worth living. Good job here Matey! I always say...Life is short, buy the damn bike. Ride safe Matey.
Just bought the Exclusive version and found that if you bring the rear seat all the way forward it gives great lower back support. Engine is as smooth a silk and the Bridgestone tyres gives confidence . Going to have fun with the setting up of the TFT scree. Buying lots of extras for it.
SOS button clarification.
Hi TMF,
Just to clarify, the SOS button works on two ways:
1 - MANUALLY: if you need it you can press it yourself (for example when you're stuck on the side of the road and just want to call the BMW assistance);
2 - AUTOMATICALLY: if the bike falls the system detects it and calls for help automatically, although you have a few moments to stop the call. If you don't stop the call, BMW will then call you back and if you don't answer (for example because you're hurt and can't even reach the bike) they'll activate emergency care automatically and send it to your location.
my bike has multiple modes , regulated by my right hand on the throttle grip..and ABS via my right hand and right foot...traction control by my left hand ...lean angle traction control governed by my sphincter !!
great review TMF a lovely bike another one for the 20 years time used bike list 👍☮❤😁
springy 2112 "lean angle traction control governed by my sphincter !! "... curious,, i also have that on my bike...!
@@Moonfleet41
hey brother you're gonna have to give us a walk round the tiger . I loved the old 955 , never understood the 1050 but the 1200 looks like a proper bike ...like the old africa twin ..ye know the real one 👍☮❤
@@springy-2112 Real one?, Philistine...that was a remake.. the real granddaddy adventure was the XLV 750 before all that trendy Africa business it looked like a bike wearing Ronald McDonald's clothes... ...and before supermotos came the Gilera Nordwest... ahh, happy days, no brakes, bendy frames, and carburettters.. Now we better stop this or TMF will be posting BMW brochures through or doors... on fire...!
@@Moonfleet41 serves him right for having an acronym as a name !!! TMF , BMW !!?
the rest of us have to go through life with real names like Del Boy or Springy.........oh ! that argument doesn't seem to work ...doh !!
Hey TMF ! we the popular peoples front of you tube demand to know your real mame , afterr all what have you ever done for us ? apart from superb bike reviews..oh and gear reviews..and touring videos and tinkering with bikes..and readers rides and and and .....and........
ok i quit 👍👍☮☮❤❤
Awesome Springy you are totally correct.
As soon as I heard about this coming out I was hoping you'd be doing a review soon. Always enjoy your videos!
Tempting, very tempting. I just need to rob a bank first.
I'll bring the tools if you bring the car😈
Is there much in banks anymore in cash? I feel soon there will be no cash.
You can always go into politics
Rutger Smets, If I was in politics, maybe I could claim one on expenses! Is that allowed?
@@jamesfisher1827 get one on the cycle to work scheme
Man TMF , you get on the new bikes faster than any other reviewer out there! Well done as usual.
Thank you Bill - tried to get this one out quick ;0)
Never thought I'd consider a GS but this bike looks so good, have to try one. great review as always.
Another great review TMF, I get the impression BMW's main issue at the moment is GS market saturation - everybody who would buy one already has one and there isn't enough reason to upgrade!
Yes you may well be right!
Great honest review as I would expect from you TMF. I had a look at the Exclusive in our local dealer this morning. The sales man came on a bit too strong for my liking. I told him I had a 2017 Rallye Sport and he went on to list all the extras already on my Rallye as 'new' on the 1250. Clueless and trying too hard. Looks great but so does my mint R1200GS. I rarely get all of the beans out of my 1200 so I'm not sure I will miss out on the extra grunt. I was impressed by your turn of speed on the damp roads. You little tinker! I always had you down as captain sensible....... Keep up the good work.
...if only you knew....
Just bought 2007 one. This is by all means better bike in every way but weight diference is huge must say. GS gained 30kg fully fueled now
Great review, see people’s concerns about technology, there is more to go wrong. However my car is filled with similar technology as most new cars have a raft of electronics now and I jump in that everyday without giving a second thought.
Very true. I recall people saying they wouldn't buy a car with electric windows in case they went wrong. Hard to find a car now with manual window winders.
Anyone care to go back to distributor caps and points that need adjusting?
Yes i prefer points, never been left strandard by them..but had EI leave me stranded twice..honda..
Probably the best review I have seen since they started appearing on funny-tube,covers all bases-and describes the bells and whistles in plain language.Look forward to moreeeeeeee 🇮🇪🏍
Cheers David - stay tuned!
I love that analogy, handle bars like cats whiskers 👍
knock the cars left and right with yer whiskers to see if you can go through, easy! :D
I've got to admit... I love the way the redline increases as the bike gets warmer - very subtle
Me too - coolio!
got mine in aug. to sit along side my 2010 rt. it's a beasst. for me the RT is amazing on very long distance trips but i kind of lost the excitement on short runs. the GS is inspiring to ride whether long distance or going to the store
One good thing to point out Is that BMW are now offering 3 years warranty and full European breakdown cover with all new bikes. This is worth around £500 a year if you buy it with a bike out of warranty. A very good selling point over other manufacturers. I pointed this out to my local dealer as they had no advertising regarding the 3 year warranty in the dealership. I informed one or two browsers of this when I was in and they didn't know about it. TMF. Maybe you could mention this on your next GS vlog? No I am not on commission. I just think it's worth knowing if your in the market for a new bike. Thanks for your superb videos. Never miss them.
Cheers Michael - I did mention that in my last "Bike News" I think (or the one before)....
That will be one of the reasons for the increase in price then. They give you nothing, you pay for it. For those on PCP it just something else to contribute to. Seems more reasonable on a monthly drip.
How odd , every time you punch along a bit the camera loses focus on the speedometer
That's because in the UK, people are being arrested for reckless driving after posting videos of them speeding or moving through traffic too fast on RUclips.
Chris Ofsthun No shit Sherlock
There’s a wifi link between the throttle and the camera...it’s very common nowadays
@@2ShoesPhoto oh - you noticed that too? very peculiar lol
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Another benchmark video Mr TMF, thanks for sharing this. I bought my first new GS in 1994, it was the R1100 gs with yellow seat and red fuel tank, it was rated at 70bhp, virtually half what the latest one has although much less power it was a great bike and I loved it. Ride safe and enjoy the new bike, it's only a matter of time before you buy one I'm sure. Cheers.
Cheers - always good to have you along! All the best - TMF
Nice review! Although we would all like to see the speedometer not blurred!!!
There aren't enough digits for when TMF winds it on!
Good work TMF. I love my 2015 Triple Black. Only have 1 negative and that is the very clunky gearbox. So, would only upgrade for that reason ... and yes, that TFT screen would just be the added bonus. I use mine for a London City commute ... 50 mile round trip ... about 2-3 days a week. Quite doable. I can keep up with the smallest of bikes through the traffic. Mostly it is not about the bike size but how you read the traffic and identify the bigger gaps. Some days is it a drag though when it gets gridlocked! Keep 'em coming. Ride safe.
good review.....i can see why so many run off with one of them bikes. Not for me tho, a bmw cramped with electronics and newly designed valve adjustment system makes me very nervous.....thats just a recall waiting to happen...
I've just bought my first 18 plate 1200 GS, the TE model. OMG!! What a bike, I love it. An amazing piece of machinery. 🏍️
Told you it was good!
Hi TMF - I am also a GS fan, but I am concerned that the GS is not becoming so complicated that with so many technological things to go wrong - statistics denote that one of them will.... Auto suspension setting, hill hold assist, lean angle Traction control, ABS, gear shift assist, the list goes on and on ... and now adjustable cams..... if I was crossing Africa, I would be very nervous. Maybe BMW know that most riders buy these for European road trips.... I will be interested to see a 3 years owners review. Cheers !
BMW is a premium brand.. It's for people with money.. Sad but true.. You can either afford it or you can't. Having said that they are fairly reliable and unless it's 10 years old you won't have much of an isssue with anything I don't think. Also you are covered by a warranty and most things that could fail won't leave you stranded somewhere. Hope that helps lol !!
3 year warranty in the UK now too!
Phil Harnett - completely agree. Its too big, too heavy, too complicated and too expensive - its more like a full dress tourer these days rather than a credible off road machine......
Actually I rode a 2018 GS Rallye off-road in Spain last week - surprisingly capable even at the hands of a numpty rider like me!
I wouldn't really want to cross Africa on anything with any electronics except for maybe a starter. If you have any breakdowns anywhere outside of South Africa, you'll be happy that you'll be able to fix the basics.
Personally I found my R80GS to be a better all round bike than my R1000GS. Love the instrument/sat nav setup. Screen and comfortable seating position, shaft drive.R80 had a 32 litre tank gave the bike a terrific range.
Can tell I'm nearly 50 - suddenly looking at a GS and thinking "ooh, that's nice" :P
Welcome to the oldies club......
TheMissendenFlyer Not there yet dammit! I’m hanging onto the next 9 months like they’re the precious!
Its like needing glasses - sooner or later it hits you
I'm 30 and have a 2018 F700GS, does that make me old?
30? Pah - you're barely out of nappies :D
There’s a reason why they are one of bmws best selling bikes , look forward to seeing more from you on the Gs
Yep, lovely bike, looking forward to the seeing the Adventure version though. I'm of the same opinion regarding the cost upgrading, I ride the first model GSA LC (2014) and the upgrade just isn't worth the £6-8k IMO. And I quite like the more grunty agricultural engine and gearbox over the more refined and smother newer model. I don't really care about keyless or quickshift TBH but the TFT is very nice but not worth the price to upgrade.
100% with you on that....
On a GSA LC (2014) you'd be looking for min 10K to upgrade, assuming trading in
If I were to upgrade I'd sell private, maybe get £10k... always get more selling private than trade-in.
Think that might be rather optimistic - my 17 plate TE excl would get 12K private (assuming a buyer with that sort of money, who could otherwise go to a dealer and get one for 12.75-13K with 2 years approved warranty), and probably not much more than 10K pa.
I want a Supermoto/Sport Tourer version(17" front wheel).
An R1250R would probably be more suited to my needs but I like the rugged looks of the GS better.
Good work, Mr Flyer !
TE stands for Tick Everything
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Wow, I'm impressed! Was only a day or so ago that I said I was looking forward to your review of the 1250, and you delivered!!
Very nice bike, if most of the twin cyl vibes are gone it'd be a no-brainer.
They have - this one is smooooth....
For the first time in my life I've got the cash to buy one. They aren't on sale here is 'Straya yet, at least according to the website. I look forward to a test ride when they get here..
Nice review, just acquired one:)
Congratulations!
Enjoy!
Tyres,tyres,tyres. Seen a gsa written off due to a low side due to the weight of the bike and all the " extras" on semi knobblies. The gs really would benefit from 17 inch street rims. Nice bike mind.
andy coomber there are conversion kits on the market, however, 2 ml of oil is enough to jeopardize any bike.....hence fingers crossed when riding;)
Well done TMF! We were all waiting for that, brilliant first impressions review, thanks very much 👍👍
Looks interesting, but this is getting on for £20k with the luggage and options catalogue raided. Very pricey indeed. Meanwhile my Suzuki vstrom 1000 was on the road with three box aluminium luggage (SW Motech) and centre stand for £10k. Not the kudos of BMW , but as a recent BM owner which proved less than satisfactory, I’m very happy with the Suzuki, put petrol in the tank, oil the chain, and it goes like stink.
With all the interest and sales you generate, giving your time and effort, creating this brilliant channel, BMW would be mad not to upgrade your GS for more TMF Friday adventures.
Are you listening BMW?
I wish they were!! :0)
Received in the UK in just a few days? We should see them in Australia in a few years. :) Still waiting for the mid-range GS models, I have a few more grey hairs now. :)
Oh dear, there has to be some downside to living in Aus - you do get great weather and Kylie, you can't have it all....
W G Due in Perth WA in a month, don’t put Oz down it’s a great place...ha ha
Nice review, good info and get your feedback as an experienced GS rider. In regards to the SOS; when you fall over or crash, the BMW help-center will call you automatically, and if you don't (or can't) answer they will send help your way, because the system knows your location.
Clever stuff!
I own a GS, and like it a lot, but 18k is ridiculous.
Never paid the retail price, always buy approved used...
Couldn’t agree more, and I always would, but it’s the normalising if excessive bike pricing that annoys me. Selling primarily through PCP has allowed manufacturers to up prices significantly, because its ‘only £150 a month’
@@timdubber8577 '6000 miles per year' .... you know what kinda bike this is 6000 is nothing I've done 9k on my r1 just in my general area (1-200 miles per trip) never mind one of these things 😂
Very well done TMF for getting this out so quickly!!
I'm afraid I will NEVER buy a new motorcycle ever again. They are simply all too expensive now. Technology is great but it's expensive. The way forward is definitely buying low mileage minters where some fool has decided to buy brand new. I'll let someone else lose a third of the bikes value the moment it leaves the dealers showroom.
I readily admit the BMW GS series of bikes are awesome machines BUT -
I fear that all this technology will eventually ruin the machine as it becomes impossible to bodge/repair outside a major city. The world travellers venerable cable tie may have finally become redundant.
Rider modes are bollocks too (my Bandit has one - it's called a twist grip and 40 years riding experience). As for TFT panels - are you so easily conned into liking something because it has got pretty colours.
It's about time we all returned to motorcycle roots and realised that motorcycles were invented to provide the working class man with a cheap reliable method of transport..... The motorcycle manufacturers have turned that idea on its head by clever marketing ploys which apparently work for them very well. Wake up and smell the coffee like I have.
Don't laugh, I ride a Suzuki GSX 1250 FA - probably THE most capable budget sports tourer all-rounder ever made. It's a 2014 Bandit 1250 with full fairing at heart. Cost me only £5K in Mint condition with 1,200 miles on clock. The idiot who bought it new was apparently scared by its torque. Awesome tree stump puller with a 150 MPH top end. Laugh all you like, my bike will piss a GS on the fast lane of the motorway. A big, reliable, fast and comfortable mile muncher for only 5K.
Don't forget you can tour the world on a 50cc Puch Maxi or a Honda Fireblade ! It's been done on both those bikes. I'd pick a 600 - 800 bike for a RTW trip not a 1200cc bloated beast like this model.
Best rely on the rich fools buying these things new and dumping them weeks later after only 1,000 miles. Save yourself a third instantly.
This BMW here costs £18K plus !?!????? That's more than a really good, reliable and comfortable car or SUV !
I'll hang on to my Bandit 1250 with a fairing. It will do almost everything one of these pretentious over-bloated / complicated things will do (some things even better) - all for £5,000.
Stay safe
I respect your view of preferring less complicated bikes and getting good value. Please however don't refer to buyers of new bikes as fools. I like my bikes new but that's my choice. It certainly doesn't make me a fool!
virtual vid Apology due. I accept what you say and apologize for causing offence or hurt. I meant fools who buy the bikes and then dump them after a few weeks NOT those who buy them and keep them. All the best.
My next bike is more than likely the 2017 Kawasaki Z900, primarily because it has no electronics other than the EU mandatory ABS. It will be new to me, rather than new, as servicing 30,000 miles during a 2 year warranty by a Kawasaki dealer would be very, very expensive.
Certainly wouldn't wish to own something like a GS out of warranty.
i know where you're coming from, i bought a 1200 Multistrada with 7000 on the clock and 4 years old, i paid £9k, far better than the £15k+ the previous single owner paid, for effectively a new looking bike, Happy days
GREETINGS SOCMINT INTELLIGENCE triumph T120 10 k old schoolwith the best of the new technology without the bullshit
Perfect person to review this bike! Lucky man! Very hard to get press bikes here in Canada, have to wait for BMW events sadly. Keep up the good work! Cheers from Montreal!
Well I think it's the UK press launch today - I certainly didn't get an invite, BMW don't speak to me....go figure!!!
I think that dealer is above avaerage too, lots of RUclipsr's borrow bikes from them.
"And... Ergh, yeah I'm going to slow down." 😂
Like your analogy on the cost to change, what a lovely machine..... thanks TMF
Hi What can i say about BMW 1250! Nothing!!! ❤it
The TE edition seems to be specific to the UK, in the Netherlands you can choose 3 packs with extra's: "comfort", "dynamic" and "touring". "Comfort adds heated grips, the shield in front of the grips (I forget the proper English term for that :-/ ), the type pressure monitoring and chrome exhaust pipes. "Dynamic" adds daylight running light (the U on its side), riding modes, shift assist and white indicators. "Touring" add cruise control, dynamic ESA, keyless drive, pannier mounts and the mount for the Nav VI. The combination of the items in the package gives a small discount on the sum, just enough that you don't really choose to leave anything out.
The Adventure is set to be announced in Milan.
I'll be exchanging my 2013 LC for a 1250GS in dynamic style, delivery expected in November :-) I can't wait
Thanks for that....
My R1200R Sport had the choice of "comfort" "dynamic" and "touring" packs each with various combinations of extras which usually provides a small saving on choosing extras individually
I’d be worried to go on a very long trip on that , just so complicated , be worrying it will go wrong !!! But nonetheless a comfortable bike
Actually I’d take my v strom as I’ll know it will take me and bring me back
Bought my superb 2015 Triple Black as approved used, same again next year for the 1250, used to hate them but now love them...awesome piece of kit, shame they’re so popular😜.
there goes my other kidney...
Got one on order got the hp coming in two weeks can’t wait,brilliant review again be safe 👍
Exciting times Mark!
Lovely bike but just too expensive new.
Hey missenden flyer. Just for your information when wanting to change riding modes on the fly no need to press the clutch lever in. Just shut off the throttle completely and the new mode that you have selected changes. Hope that’s of use to you. Great video again by the way. 👍
Yes it's the same as on my GS ;0)
I always enjoy your videos. Purchased a r1250gs a week ago. Love it! Considering taking an off road course in order to be comfortable taking advantage of all its awesome capabilities.
Congrats!
Thanks for the review, TMF. If you ask me, that is by far BMW's best bike. Pricey, but good value and you get what you pay for.
Your reviews are top notch. I'm extremely close to owning my first GS.
Go for it John, you know it makes sense!
@@TheMissendenFlyer Well, a brand new GS is in my garage. It's one incredible machine!!!!
Just taken delivery of my 2022 1250 GS Rallye a week ago, absolutely fantastic !! Although she’s a heavy lass, she handles like a dream. Greetings from Johannesburg, South Africa 🇿🇦
Great review as usual, seems like a worthy and capable update, the BMW GS is unofficially 40 years old since development first started so you'd expected they got it sorted by now. Looking forward to your more extended reviews, particularly in the Grand Canary's again ?
Thanks for a great review. I'm debating whether to change, I agree with your point, £11-12K plus my 9000 mile full spec 2014 GS is a lot of money to find.
At least Dick Turpin had a mask!!!!
Looking at new bike to travel on with wife . I keep coming back to the BMW GS videos. I wonder why...a quality motorcycle with character.
Perfect for that mission! Thanks for watching - TMF
You have convinced me. I've just ordered a GS TE, in blue with cross spoke wheels, sat nav 6 and panniers. Delivery is after the UK leaves the EU. Hope it does not get delayed too much! I ordered SW motech upper and lower stainless crash bars, they arrived this morning. The BMW dealer agreed to fit them. Thanks for your great channel, you've been in inspiration. I've been off bikes for about 20 years. But I've have a few lessons and bought a Honda 125, getting along fine with that. Have you ever had advanced bike training?
Congratulations David - and the only advanced training I've had was the met police BikeSafe course, if you google it you may find my video on it if you're interested.....cheers - TMF
Hey TMF. Just an update on the SOS button. The technology detects if you have had an accident and the severity of the collision. It then tries to contact you. if nobody answers the call from the SOS services, they will then take your GPS location and pass it on to emergency services ( handy if you are up in the Alps and go over one of those sheer drops) Also you can press the SOS button as you quite rightly eluded to. It is a handy safety device for mine, so why would you get rid as one of your earlier readers pointed out ? There is nothing more to pay and if you have a bump, do nothing and help will come.
I kept looking at that screen and thinking "I'm sure the redline was lower a minute ago". That's an awesome feature to restrict the redline until it's up to temp, reminds me of the BMW cars.
Yes when I rode it this morning the red line was down at 5800rpm and gradually moved up the rev range as she warmed up - love that sort of thing!
Another successful report ! engaging as always, thanks for a great informative VLOG, cant wait for the RALLYE version report. Holding thumbs for a sunny day !
Yes I must say the Rallye does look great with those gold wheels (they have one in the showroom at Bahnstormer in Maidenhead)....
Thanks TMF, much appreciated! Looking forward to your GSA 1250 assessment! Cheerio 👍🏻
Me too!
Thanks for the review TMF.......so would you upgrade from your current GS? I personally don’t see the incremental benefit outweighs the cost. TFT is alluring though but that in itself is another grand or two.
Watch the video and find out Grant ;0) (caught you!!)
I've got my new 2018 Goldwing and came close to getting a GSA. I miss the adventure style bike. I had the Super Tenere before. Thanks TMF for the awesome review.
Hi I am looking to buy a Terene please tell me about its reliability
I like how the speedo goes all blurry in dynamic mode
Amazing bike TMF. I have last years GSA Rallye, I love it, I have no issues with the size and weight, and I’m 5’6”. And if anyone thinks the GS is in capable off road, check out the BMW off road course in Wales, I did it this year on a GS Rallye, best time I’ve had for years. ps, I love keyless, no key fob flapping about and so handy at the pumps.
Very nice review, with a price at £16,500+3000 in Touratech protective accessories +Gps tracker=a fortune but in my humble opinion, it worths!!!
Nice review! At 5:29 you grey out the liquid crystal display. Is that because of speed limit issues in GB? Keep up the great work!
Very nice, but in the same boat as you. Still happy with my 2015 GS, although losing the sometimes clunky low down gear changes & gaining a Nav VI & TFT would be nice. Lucky you.🏍👍
I rode a 1250gs on Monday. I agree with your comments. My RT has manual adjust suspension and I found the auto adjust suspension great. As for the engine definitely noticeable when making progress. Took it home to show the Mrs, She thought the spoked gold wheels the demo had were cheap looking. Yes its a good bike £16250 for a TE version. No luggage of course.
....or Sat Nav for that price I'm guessing?
I did a test ride on 1250 GS. I am 5’4’. The wind screen in high position I need to see through the screen . In low position it was ok. The view is not comfortable and images are blurred. I would change to a after market one without many sharp bends etc. Beautiful bike. Thank you
Thanks - good review. I have a 2018 with the TFT. The only bad thing about the TFT is that the tripmeter reset is a right pain....
Great video review again TMF. Very thorough and detailed as usual. Well done
Thank you David...
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What a great dealership Bahnstormer in Maidenhead are. They know the value of your reviews!
BMW Motoradd on the other hand do not, they are missing a trick
Great review thank you
...I couldn't possibly comment...
It is all right, we will do the commenting. BMW Motorrad GB, don't be miserable ***&&, give TMF access to your models. He is probably selling more GS'es than some of your dealerships.... P.S Great editing...
i'm commuting 70 miles every day on GS through Dartford Crossing, cannot think of better bike to do it.
I just test rode an R1250 GS HP - it is without question an amazing bike. I have a 2017 triumph explorer and honestly it doesn’t come close to the bmw. I have put deposit down ana fingers crossed will get in a few weeks ! I’m getting the HP cos I just love the colour scheme and wheels - the engine is incredible so much better than the 1200 I test rode.... honestly the 1250 is great
Told you it was good!
TheMissendenFlyer you have put me in debt Mr flyer....the TFT is the best one - it’s with every penny - doubt I’ll change for several years - bmw NZ also giving me 50 % off standard seats too- I’ll get the crash bars screen etc from Horing ??
Another great review, 93k subs now is just incredible. That’s actually more than a capacity crowd at Wembley stadium for a good perspective on your audience.
Yebbut roughly half are cheering for the opposition ;@)
I love how the red line is lower whilst the bike gets up-to temperature! Thats a clever feature! 🤔👍
Yes cool that isn't it....
Just the man for the moment! If anyone should review a GS, its Mr Flyer himself! I've seen a bunch of these reviews by the so called "Pros", and this review told me much more! Well done groover! Can't wait for more in-depth review on her by you.
So now for the $33K question! (that's what they cost here in OZ). Mr Flyer, you rode the GSA in one of your reviews (white one) and you fell in love with it. If money is not an issue, is it the GSA or this new GS? Cheers groover ;-)
....I'd wait for the new GSA1250!
GSA !
Don Ross: My missus and daughter have been pushing me to buy the GS for the last 2 years. Mr Flyers review on that white/blue GSA was a ripper. His voice said it all, he was just about in love! I started thinking since its probably going to be my doubling bike, should I go the GSA? I know when i'm on my own, Id rather have the GS, but I'm wondering if the GSA's suspension is better than the GS for 2up. Only a test ride will tell I guess. But once I heard the torques up on the new GS to the 140's (NM's) I almost wet my pants! My other bikes got 144nm of torque and it has to be one of the most fun rides I've ever had. If the GS has got that kind of pull, then I don't think the GSA's going to compete. Cheers groover ;-)
TMF is the reason I got the GSA ( lol) and my poor bank balance ( not lol ) !
Yep! It looks like i'm going that way as well! I'm sure his other business is selling sand to the arabs, & ice to the eskimos! I had no intentions buying a GS, even when I went to pick up my brand new s1000RR in '16. The dealer attempted to talk me into a GS. I looked at it and was intimidated in even siting on one! Rode the new bike home & weeks later started to follow the Flyer. Then the thoughts of "should I have bought that instead" were running through my head! Its now 2 years later, & the RR went 2 days ago. Im cashed up and waiting for the GS to arrive here in OZ. They say mid dec. Will be a nice xmas gift to myself! Cheers groover ;-)
Great review. I got the same impressions when I testdrove the GS last weekend...
Glad we concur!
Good honest review as always my friend. Ride safe Tony
Looks like a great road bike. The extra weight and BMW’s recent track record for reliability issues prompted me to buy another brand. For BMW’s sake, I hope their new motor is dependable in the long run.
Hi please tell me about recent reliability issues for BMW GS so that I will know since I am looking for one in the near future
Most people do not realise that the difference between the GS, Adventure and low chassis options are down to fork travel. By reducing seat height the models ability the fork travel reduces making the bike harsher and more vulnerable to impacts its on and off road capabilities. For me a low chassis version is purely tarmac on reasonable roads.
Sorry guys or as this channel would say Kids. It’s a cheaper version at at a premium.
Thank you TMF for a very quick review since the bike is only out a few days ago. I saw all four colours at the launch on Saturday at Douglas park Motorrad in East Kilbride and liked the exclusive and rally over the other two. I have a 2017 GSA which I love. I am told the 1250 GSA will be available next month however the only problem with these new bikes arriving is that the rest of us who have a GS or GSA will see our bike devalued due to the new model coming out. I realise that's the way it is however it means if we want to buy the new one we will get even less for our trade in. A win win for BMW. I am going to "try" and keep mine so I hope the new GSA is not too attractive.
I know exactly how you feel Michael!
Great review cheers TMF. New gloves sir ?? Also don’t know if it’s me but the audio sounded slightly distorted on this video, never noticed it before and I am an avid viewer and I was using my same ear phones. Just a heads up you might want to check. Thanks again buddy 👍🏍
Well spotted! Different helmet to usual and mic was positioned a little too close I reckon....yes newish gloves, had them for a while (Gold top) - a review will be forthcoming!
TheMissendenFlyer cheers TMF, look forward to glove review, I bought 2 pairs recently, a pair of winter Spada and a pair of summer Alpinestars. Appears I have long thumbs and find the right gloves are a challenge, took me ages 👍🏍
Really don't like TFT screens on bikes - but I like that one. Very nice. Everything you need and nothing you don't.
Well actually once you start digging there's plenty you don't need - but I do think this is the best TFT in the business!
Great review - nice to to see the TE (ticked everything) variant!
WOW this is the BIG one!!!!! The big review, now let’s see..........
Great review. I don't like how the engine sticks out on each side. I assume the engine guard is sold separately. Is that right?
That is correct....
Great review TMF. Thanks. Incidentally, did you have the "pro-mode" dongle in place for the review?
No I don't think it was (well I couldn't select "Enduro Pro" put it that way)....
Great review, pleasant and easy to follow narration that is informative and perfectly relevant to all types of bikers. Thanks for braving the poor weather in this video. I'll gladly subscribe and check out old and new video from now on. Cheers!
Much appreciated - welcome along!
Sorry TMF, very rude of me not to say but thanks for the great review. Comprehensive as always fella!
Not rude at all!
Yeah talking about repairs... I've got hit by a rusty shaft and a week later... the alternator. The joys and pains.
I hope they fixed all these issues.