"Secret Father" Revelation Leads to Staircase Homicide | Kenneth and Kristine Fitzhugh Case Analysis

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  • Опубликовано: 21 авг 2023
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  • @ivanhernandez16
    @ivanhernandez16 10 месяцев назад +582

    As much as I try not to laugh at Dr. Grande’s awkward dry humor… he gets me every time.

    • @sandrastevens4418
      @sandrastevens4418 10 месяцев назад +17

      😂I know you don't want to laugh, but....

    • @jokesonyou1373
      @jokesonyou1373 10 месяцев назад +17

      Do or do not. There is no Try.

    • @straymusic
      @straymusic 10 месяцев назад +45

      He's low-key one of the funniest guys on RUclips

    • @AceSantiago
      @AceSantiago 10 месяцев назад +5

      ​@straymusic I swear bro 😂

    • @robertgiles9124
      @robertgiles9124 10 месяцев назад +10

      The Stairway to Heaven joke fell as flat as a murdered body.

  • @AxeltheGSD
    @AxeltheGSD 10 месяцев назад +267

    She was my music teacher in 4th grade. It's so bizarre to hear it being talked about: I still remember the day when someone had to come into our class and explain to a bunch of 9 and 10 year olds that our teacher was dead.

    • @canileaveitblank1476
      @canileaveitblank1476 10 месяцев назад +4

      Ok

    • @AxeltheGSD
      @AxeltheGSD 10 месяцев назад +75

      @@canileaveitblank1476 LOL. Way to “generate an interesting dialogue”, there, man.

    • @troy3456789
      @troy3456789 10 месяцев назад

      I went to school with Christine. I continued having sex with Christine, causing her to cheat on both Ken, and her husband Bob. She could not resist my charms. Our affair began when she was my music teacher. We picked back up after the funeral.

    • @IdeologieUK
      @IdeologieUK 10 месяцев назад +10

      @@AxeltheGSDI suppose OK is more than leaving it blank?

    • @aprilcaricchio4309
      @aprilcaricchio4309 10 месяцев назад +4

      😢

  • @bobbobertson7568
    @bobbobertson7568 10 месяцев назад +208

    Not saying he should've of done this, but it's naive to think you can screw people over as bad as she did and not have there be very bad consequences.

    • @scvboy1
      @scvboy1 10 месяцев назад +32

      Yeah I can’t justify murder but I can empathize with him

    • @dandrummond9154
      @dandrummond9154 10 месяцев назад +11

      Yeah, I dunno what I would do. I like to think I would maintain control, but even stories about betrayal make me angry. 33 years of marriage and then she probably said she had intentionally stopped having sex with him to have a child with the other dude, obviously he had never been his child, and he was an idiot.

    • @diannew6066
      @diannew6066 10 месяцев назад +24

      @@dandrummond9154 He saw and raised both children. He really was trusting and apparently never dreamed she was fooling around with their friend, and was so stupid as to get pregnant to the guy. She pushed him beyond his control and it was really callous and stupid of her.

    • @aarondavis8943
      @aarondavis8943 10 месяцев назад +5

      Most of the time this doesn't happen. It's not naive to think the most likely thing will happen. She was wrong and an _unlikely_ thing happened. That's why it's called _unlikely_ and not _impossible._

    • @tongpoo8985
      @tongpoo8985 10 месяцев назад +17

      Yea. I don't care that she was murdered. Not saying what he did was the high road. But eh, id give him 10 max and let him walk.

  • @pearlfeather9326
    @pearlfeather9326 10 месяцев назад +55

    How much betrayal can a person take?
    Awful.

  • @2Bad4YOUuu
    @2Bad4YOUuu 10 месяцев назад +113

    I appreciate how you didn't attempt to describe Christine as a saintly victim. Excellent analysis as always.

    • @suzimonkey345
      @suzimonkey345 10 месяцев назад +10

      I’m sure that, “She lit-up the room”! 😊

    • @Laura-tp8wz
      @Laura-tp8wz 10 месяцев назад

      @@suzimonkey345
      Lol, yes!

    • @idontknowyouthatsmypurse
      @idontknowyouthatsmypurse 8 месяцев назад

      @@suzimonkey345okay I have to ask - is that a nod to “a date with dateline “?

    • @aminaumaarah6667
      @aminaumaarah6667 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@suzimonkey345😊😅😊

    • @aminaumaarah6667
      @aminaumaarah6667 7 месяцев назад

      😊

  • @sweeabn6736
    @sweeabn6736 10 месяцев назад +58

    When Dr Grande says, "This is just a theory, my opinion . . ." I am all ears right there. :)

  • @I_Love_Rainbows510
    @I_Love_Rainbows510 10 месяцев назад +83

    It's hard not to victim-blame in this situation. This woman was a horrible wife, and that came back to bite her. I feel sorrier for her husband than I do for her. To be betrayed in so many different ways all at once is unthinkable.

    • @mjb405
      @mjb405 9 месяцев назад +7

      I get that. She was definitely a shitty person but she didn't deserve what she got. I'm also opposed to the death penalty in all cases so there's no way I'd have anything but contempt for someone taking it into their own hands

    • @ProdbyQ88
      @ProdbyQ88 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@mjb405 I mean bro imagine being married & in love for hella years and finding all this out. You can't really see her as the victim here as shes clearly a fucking psychopath who was victimizing him.

    • @bombay3201
      @bombay3201 6 месяцев назад +3

      I think it's not victim blaming ....maybe someone can learn from her mistakes

    • @ML-rs7we
      @ML-rs7we 6 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@mjb405what are you smoking?

    • @mjb405
      @mjb405 6 месяцев назад +3

      @@ML-rs7we just pot occasionally

  • @Meela234
    @Meela234 10 месяцев назад +34

    "I'm not saying he should have killed her. But I understand" - Chris Rock

  • @maureeningleston1501
    @maureeningleston1501 10 месяцев назад +275

    Is it any wonder that Dr Grande has so many subscribers, when he delivers such amazing content on a daily basis?

    • @themajesticmagnificent386
      @themajesticmagnificent386 10 месяцев назад +25

      Amazing how Doctor Grande can do what he does..Just a great channel and well in my top 3 of u-tube channels🇬🇧🇺🇸👍

    • @vowxhing
      @vowxhing 10 месяцев назад +7

      I believe Dr Grande is the most consistent RUclipsr on the platform! Impressive and inspirational

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      @user-gc7jd5mb4s 10 месяцев назад

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    • @Zerja
      @Zerja 10 месяцев назад

      I wonder all the time. Grande is not an MD and is misleading at best in regards to his qualifications, and has a sense of humor in very poor taste. I only watch for the synopsis and ignore his 'analysis'. I look forward to his inevitable 'influenc(er) downfall'

    • @vowxhing
      @vowxhing 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@Zerja I’m not an MD either but I am a Dr. Check my Ph.D. and $100k of student loans for proof 🎓

  • @antonchigurh7820
    @antonchigurh7820 10 месяцев назад +21

    Dr. Grande is really humourous. The line of "it seems unlikely that the stairs would also strangle Kristine" was fantastic. Great job sir...

    • @LBdreamin
      @LBdreamin 6 месяцев назад +1

      8:59 Dr. Grande did him dirty with that photo transition

  • @erinthesystem9608
    @erinthesystem9608 10 месяцев назад +191

    This case appeared on "Forensic Files" and I'd encourage anyone to watch this guy's interrogation. It becomes really ludicrous when he gets to the part where he's blaming her shoes.

    • @IMDunn-oy9cd
      @IMDunn-oy9cd 10 месяцев назад +26

      Yes, I saw that. He's a very poor actor.

    • @tessaducek5601
      @tessaducek5601 10 месяцев назад +29

      Those damn black shoes!

    • @onetiredempath
      @onetiredempath 10 месяцев назад +10

      Just said this myself just couldn’t remember where I had seen the interview!

    • @simonbanks3058
      @simonbanks3058 10 месяцев назад +8

      Best series.

    • @nataliep501
      @nataliep501 10 месяцев назад +15

      ​@simonbanks3058 Yes! R.I.P. Peter Thomas

  • @I_Love_Rainbows510
    @I_Love_Rainbows510 10 месяцев назад +12

    "Maybe she was impressed that Bob was an attorney... at least, until he was disbarred years later!" That made me laugh out loud! :-D

    • @Laura-tp8wz
      @Laura-tp8wz 10 месяцев назад +2

      Oh Karma never forgets 🔮

  • @IMDunn-oy9cd
    @IMDunn-oy9cd 10 месяцев назад +39

    Important safety tip: Cheating on your spouse can be a dangerous activity.

  • @TheGreyMan85
    @TheGreyMan85 10 месяцев назад +82

    I really felt bad for Justin..
    It's hard to live a normal life when you get hit by too many bad surprises at the same time..
    I hope he's around and doing well.

    • @ML-rs7we
      @ML-rs7we 6 месяцев назад +4

      Yep. Not his fault. 100% the woman's fault

    • @TheGreyMan85
      @TheGreyMan85 6 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@ML-rs7we yes, women's fault most of the time.

  • @bluekiwi1239
    @bluekiwi1239 10 месяцев назад +16

    You never truly know someone. I’ve learned so much from watching Dr. Grande! My ex-fiancé was horribly abusive (psychologically and financially), but once he started cheating on me- the physical abuse started. He blamed me for his actions. I recommend watching the psychopathic husband if you haven’t already.
    I even questioned if I was narcissistic or psychopathic. But, unlike my-ex, I’ve been to counsellors, psychologists and even a psychiatrist. My diagnosis is PTSD. 😔 Stay brave out there.

  • @velvetbees
    @velvetbees 10 месяцев назад +53

    She should have been honest from the start. That still doesn't excuse her murder.

    • @robertgiles9124
      @robertgiles9124 10 месяцев назад +12

      Yes it does. She had it coming. He gave his life for her. He was just her stepping stone.

    • @yahnservices1978
      @yahnservices1978 10 месяцев назад +3

      She got what she deseerved. May it be a lesson to other evil women.

    • @yahnservices1978
      @yahnservices1978 10 месяцев назад +4

      @@Lololeelee The case is about an evil woman getting what she deserves, I'll be consistent in similar cases where the genders are reversed, something I doubt most women here would do.

    • @tongpoo8985
      @tongpoo8985 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@Lololeeleetheres not really a parallel situation for men since its obvious when a woman's child is not hers (she did not give birth to it lol), and she won't spend years unknowingly raising someone elses child.

  • @bizzzzzzle
    @bizzzzzzle 10 месяцев назад +13

    I love that when he says she gave birth to a child, he shows a picture of her holding a puppy.

  • @marleyfehr9324
    @marleyfehr9324 10 месяцев назад +34

    Had a mix up with my medication and ended up going through pretty bad withdrawals that made holding the medicine down once I got it really hard. Used your vids to help keep me calm and grounded! Thanks Dr. Todd!

  • @darkshaolinwarrior
    @darkshaolinwarrior 10 месяцев назад +33

    Alliteration as an alternative answer to an atrocious assault? Appreciated Dr. Grande

  • @horsepanther
    @horsepanther 10 месяцев назад +31

    I lived in Palo Alto when this murder happened; and murders are so rare there (only 2 in the 7 or 8 years I lived there) that if one occurs, the media runs constant, in-depth coverage about it. In this case it was exceedingly obvious from the beginning that Ken murdered Christine. His attempts to stage the scene as a fall were pathetic, arranging for two witnesses when he "found" her body, etc., and his acting during his police interrogation was embarrassingly bad.

    • @TheBOG3
      @TheBOG3 10 месяцев назад +2

      *Kristine

  • @kcindc5539
    @kcindc5539 10 месяцев назад +122

    How much life insurance did Christine have at the time of her death? And exactly how does one go for decades ignoring a the obvious message behind a conspicuous and omnipresent diamond ring, given by another man, visible on his wife’s ring finger right next to the wedding band he himself gave her? The delusion is real, folks.

    • @dlc5166
      @dlc5166 10 месяцев назад +15

      She had $96K life insurance; property valued at $900K, I think. Yeah, the double rings, hmmm.

    • @rosemadder5547
      @rosemadder5547 10 месяцев назад +20

      My grandma gave me her diamond ring and i wore it constantly as well. She could have just explained it away. I havent finished the episode yet though. But It's so easy for us to lie to ourselves. Especially if you've grown up needing it as a defense mechanism to survive...

    • @evelynwaugh4053
      @evelynwaugh4053 10 месяцев назад +13

      Many women buy themselves jewelry. There are beautiful vintage rings with precious and semi precious stones, that used to be engagement or commemorative special occasion rings, so someone could easily acquire such rings. It's not really at all suspicious.

    • @sorrelbee113
      @sorrelbee113 10 месяцев назад +10

      I have a diamond ring my mum gave me. I have another one my grandma gave me that has tiny blue diamonds. I have lots of rings. My partner doesn't interrogate every ring I wear. Wearing multiple rings on one finger isn't too uncommon either. I don't think it's that strange.

    • @lolazal1
      @lolazal1 10 месяцев назад +8

      He thought said guy was gay...

  • @jona_KardCiv1
    @jona_KardCiv1 10 месяцев назад +133

    I'm having a difficult time feeling bad for Bob and Kristien. Ken was in the wrong for killing her obviously but my God, how much abuse can someone take before they snap?

    • @murphychurch8251
      @murphychurch8251 10 месяцев назад +9

      I can imagine that he must have felt like an idiot and bitter when he was confronted with how he was fooled. Well, partly he was a bit of an idiot, if his wife really stopped sleeping with him and still miraculously got pregnant. But who knows how she conned him into believing the child was his.

    • @angelavolkov1126
      @angelavolkov1126 10 месяцев назад +10

      They snap is just a cop-out. Funny how these men only "snap" when there are no witnesses and women do far less of this "snapping".

    • @wmdkitty
      @wmdkitty 10 месяцев назад

      Oh, please. HE was the abuser, and his final act of abuse was to murder her.

    • @jona_KardCiv1
      @jona_KardCiv1 10 месяцев назад

      @@angelavolkov1126 "Snaping" isn't an excuse or get out jail card. But this type of act is not the same thing as say, murdering someone because they are not cooperating in a mugging. This lady did have it coming. And you are right. Men are more violent than women. Duh. Now explain that to DoD for me, please.

    • @jona_KardCiv1
      @jona_KardCiv1 10 месяцев назад +8

      @@murphychurch8251 I agree. He was a bit of an idiot. But just because someone has a low IQ, it does not mean that they deserve to be mistreated or taken advantage of.

  • @Kroggnagch
    @Kroggnagch 8 месяцев назад +4

    “Now moving to my analysis..” my favorite part. When Dr.Grande lays down his knowledge on us.

  • @johnfyten3392
    @johnfyten3392 10 месяцев назад +11

    This crime is the definition of a crime of passion

  • @Mandrake591
    @Mandrake591 7 месяцев назад +4

    Dr. Grande, your consistent quality videos and work ethic is astonishing. I appreciate your not so common common sense too, thank you!

  • @Sunchild_26
    @Sunchild_26 10 месяцев назад +42

    Murder is NEVER the answer but I cannot pretend I feel an ounce of sadness for her demise. I can barely keep a little white lie from my husband none the less a CHILD from his friend for decades!!!

    • @AbuilyasalAryanee
      @AbuilyasalAryanee 7 месяцев назад

      Lol yeah right... You are obviously just worried about him finding out about something you've done in past. Your comment is so randomly personal and only focused on the lying part and not the murder. Don't worry your husband won't find out about the cheating

  • @JP-ht6nm
    @JP-ht6nm 9 месяцев назад +7

    This is life ruining level of betrayal that this guy was hit by. I think this should be considered a crime of passion. I think 5-10 would be appropriate. Obviously you can’t let someone get away with murder Scott-free, but this is the closest I’ve ever seen it come.

  • @sunshinekatieee6239
    @sunshinekatieee6239 10 месяцев назад +31

    I always feel so conflicted when I laugh at your jokes lol but thank you for providing respectful and interesting coverage of these things.

    • @cebswood1
      @cebswood1 10 месяцев назад +2

      If you're feeling conflicted at laughing it doesn't logically follow that you think Dr. Grande is respectable to his subjects.

    • @sunshinekatieee6239
      @sunshinekatieee6239 10 месяцев назад

      Hey good point.

    • @scarlettphoenix7024
      @scarlettphoenix7024 10 месяцев назад +3

      He’s not mocking the people themselves…he uses puns and word-play for the most part.
      For me, it’s always better to laugh in spite of human insanity. If I had to face everything with cold analysis, I’d forget to notice the good stuff. Give me Morgue Humor over histrionics any day.

  • @kenwillis8487
    @kenwillis8487 10 месяцев назад +28

    My son grew up believing another man was his father ( Ironically named Bob ) ! It wasn’t till he turned 16 and went searching for his birth certificate to take drivers education that he found out! Bob and his mom divorced when he was 10 and he thought Bob had abandoned him! His mom called and told me about him and I sent him a message asking to build a real when he was ready! When he turned 18 he came here for a visit and we have been building since then! But being lied to really screwed him up!

    • @kelly-kx2io
      @kelly-kx2io 10 месяцев назад +4

      That's a big concern I have for my son. His mum has lied and hid the truth for over 45 years. He thinks he knows who his dad is, even though he has his mums surname. Let me explain. She was 23 at the time and I was a 12 year old boy back then. She was on a mission to get pregnant whatever it took to achieve it. Even if it meant grooming bullying and coerce and sexually abusing a 12 year old boy.
      She disappeared once she became pregnant. It took me up until 3 years ago to track her and my son down online and 1 year ago to get her attention and to read my message I had sent her 2 years earlier. She blocked me and told those who she knew who had shared the post aiming to get her attention to take it down threatening them with the police ! I had made post asking for anyone who knows her to get her to read the message I had sent her.
      She had not gone to police ! I know this because I did after she denied knowing me and started bullying others who had shared my post.

    • @yahnservices1978
      @yahnservices1978 10 месяцев назад +6

      Paternity tests should be the norm.

    • @kelly-kx2io
      @kelly-kx2io 10 месяцев назад

      @@yahnservices1978 Yes but my son as not committed a crime against me his mother did. He may not wish to provide DNA once hes told why its needed. In that case the court will have demand it be done. I already gave my DNA after my 3 hour video interview with police. I insisted they take my DNA.

  • @TheBub26
    @TheBub26 10 месяцев назад +32

    this is the "GD black shoes!" case. dr grande should have included ken's interrogation where he dramatically slams down his fists as he curses the culprit

  • @Watchoutforsnakez
    @Watchoutforsnakez 10 месяцев назад +6

    Dear Dr. Grande. Thank you for the Led Zeppelin joke. Most Sincerely, all the Cool Rockers Who Love Ya’.

  • @BigZebraCom
    @BigZebraCom 10 месяцев назад +37

    Just a reminder, I'm not diagnosing anybody in this video, only speculating about America's exciting new game show 'Who's Your Daddy?' .

    • @BigZebraCom
      @BigZebraCom 10 месяцев назад

      @@nhlpens583 hey, thanks for the emotes!

  • @jessepitt
    @jessepitt 10 месяцев назад +91

    Of all the jilted lover/spouse homicide cases I’ve heard recently, this one is the least shocking as far as the betrayal ratio goes. I have seen so many with so much less compelling emotions involved. No excuse for killing her but he definitely had a valid complaint. That said; how TF did he not figure it out way sooner? In my experience people who don’t catch on to an affair are usually in denial.

    • @julianarodriguex899
      @julianarodriguex899 10 месяцев назад +4

      Or maybe they are having affairs themselves

    • @jessepitt
      @jessepitt 10 месяцев назад +20

      @@julianarodriguex899 In my experience it is usually a narcissistic taking advantage of a passive partner who doesn’t have any desire to cheat. Usually if both are cheating they will separate.

    • @MK-jc9ov
      @MK-jc9ov 10 месяцев назад +18

      ​@@jessepitt
      Your reply is bang on.
      I am a woman, and what happened to Ken happened to me. I had no inkling that the "family friend" who was often our house guest was in a years-long relationship with my husband. I was a very trusting faithful wife. When their daughter was about 15 years old and he and I were separated, a scorned ex-lover of his (in whom he had confided) spilled the beans. I was in shock. One of our own daughters was also 15 at the time. For the record, his name is not Bob, it is Luke.

    • @mindareinetels6047
      @mindareinetels6047 10 месяцев назад

      Exactly 💯

    • @horsepanther
      @horsepanther 10 месяцев назад

      Maybe it's denial...but maybe it's being dense as a brick.

  • @sharosmith
    @sharosmith 10 месяцев назад +20

    This case and the murder of Kathleen Peterson (of The Staircase documentary) are very similar! Except Michael Peterson was found not guilty. I believe in both cases the husbands were guilty! It’s truly sad that Christine was willing to betray her husband without a second thought!

    • @glow1815
      @glow1815 10 месяцев назад +6

      And to have Bob's ring on her finger so while with her husband. So disrespectful. She has no mortal nor conscious what so ever.

    • @nmartin5551
      @nmartin5551 10 месяцев назад

      Peterson took an Alford plea. Not innocent. If you look at the $$ in that case, Michael had lots of motive. How much morality do you have if you kill someone? So he ignored reality and then killed her when $ gets tight. Why all of the sympathy for this? Get a divorce. Sooner or later.

  • @Fractal_blip
    @Fractal_blip 10 месяцев назад +4

    Dr. Grande's slight change of expression at 3:19 when telling of the adulterous wife's good deeds 😅
    Made me laugh out loud thank you

  • @helpyourcattodrive
    @helpyourcattodrive 10 месяцев назад +18

    What a case. Thank you, Grande, for bringing us all of these interesting and informative videos every day.❤ They mean a lot to me.❤

  • @mildredpierce4506
    @mildredpierce4506 10 месяцев назад +9

    This is one of the most talked about cases that was featured on Forensic Files because of the shoes he claimed he had warned her about. You will need to watch the episode to see Ken’s physical response when explaining the shoes. .

  • @user-lf9og2sr6n
    @user-lf9og2sr6n 10 месяцев назад +5

    ❤Thank you❤My ex tried to do the same thing to me. Worked with his married lover, meanwhile I was raising his daughter from a previous marriage as my own from age 22 - 29; then I figured out what was going on. I divorced him and gave him everything- snakes are dangerous, just leave! 30 years later my ex is still screwing the married lady, he has the house but I have my integrity unlike Ken - I walked away.❤❤❤Our daughter was the innocent victim. So sad. We all mess up, it’s what you do in the middle of the mess that decides the fate of your next life. Be good, let GOD be the judge.❤❤❤

    • @Laura-tp8wz
      @Laura-tp8wz 10 месяцев назад

      Excellent post. Blessings.

    • @nmartin5551
      @nmartin5551 10 месяцев назад

      Thank you! One of the few sensible posts on this case. I hope you are well.

  • @birdworldist
    @birdworldist 10 месяцев назад +13

    Yess king go off

  • @marlinfisher2529
    @marlinfisher2529 10 месяцев назад +8

    Dear Dr G what terrific humour woven into an totally excellent analysis. Your devoted community are spoilt by the consistently high standards and exceptional choice of matters. What would we all do without you and the important principles we learn from your channel. Kind regards from Australia.

  • @rejaneoliveira5019
    @rejaneoliveira5019 10 месяцев назад +43

    Fascinating case. I don’t condone Kenneth’s actions in any way but to say that Kristine pushed him over the edge is an understatement. To me, this was a crime of passion and desperation.
    Great analysis, Dr. Grande.❤

    • @cebswood1
      @cebswood1 10 месяцев назад +8

      Actually, he pushed Kristine over the edge.

    • @wmdkitty
      @wmdkitty 10 месяцев назад +1

      All I see is an abusive man making excuses to justify his final act of abuse.

    • @wanderingstar5673
      @wanderingstar5673 10 месяцев назад +5

      ⁠@@wmdkitty- violence is always wrong. With that said - Christine abused Ken emotionally and financially. She had an affair and Ken was the parent to the child that resulted from the liaison. His bio dad was a loser and Christine chose to stay married to Ken because he was responsible and capable of being a good parent. She decided to tell the son who his bio dad was without considering Ken’s feelings. She maintained her assets separate from her husband’s while allowing him to contribute financially and emotionally to the child’s upbringing and college education as well as possibly assisting her lover financially over the years. It is not hard to imagine how devastated and heartbroken Ken felt and with his careers difficulties at the same time was more than he could handle.

  • @teresathayn5170
    @teresathayn5170 10 месяцев назад +9

    I remember this case! The killer tried to blame her death on her tripping over her "G.D. black shoes" on the stairs, lol! Crazy!

  • @canileaveitblank1476
    @canileaveitblank1476 10 месяцев назад +22

    I wonder if Ken claimed “crime of passion” would he have been acquitted?

    • @hrdley911
      @hrdley911 10 месяцев назад +6

      Probably not, although the Juey might have convicted him of a lesser charge. Depends on the state statutes.

    • @Alkis05
      @Alkis05 9 месяцев назад

      That would only make it murder second degree instead of first. Considering the mess and the fact he killed her in their kitchen, it was probably a crime of passion.

  • @christy3384
    @christy3384 10 месяцев назад +8

    I remember this episode on forensic files his interrogation was such an act he tried to blame it on “THOSE DAMN SHOES”

    • @karenlarsen8980
      @karenlarsen8980 10 месяцев назад +4

      Lol it’s all I can think of!! Ahhhh those DAMN BLACK SHOES!

    • @christy3384
      @christy3384 10 месяцев назад +4

      @@karenlarsen8980 lmaoooo yes banging his fists on the table I can’t deal …he was being so fake !!! Btw it was season 14 episode 3 😩

  • @KimberlyLetsGo
    @KimberlyLetsGo 10 месяцев назад +12

    My heart goes out to the sons.

  • @dicedrice7216
    @dicedrice7216 10 месяцев назад +12

    Ken never realized that Justin looks just like a younger version of Bob?

    • @loki2stunt
      @loki2stunt 10 месяцев назад

      😅😂 those kids looked nothing alike 😅

  • @dlc5166
    @dlc5166 10 месяцев назад +7

    Thanks for the analysis, Dr. Grande. Love triangles never seem to work out. Fare thee well, Justin and John. Hope life after this mess has been kind to you.

  • @kenwillis8487
    @kenwillis8487 10 месяцев назад +13

    No way! I was told that her friend Bob was Gay too! Then when my son was a year old she told me she lied and Bob was Austin’s dad! That she was having an affair the whole time! I demanded a paternity test and she refused! So I walked away believing that Austin was not my son! But now that he’s an adult we are working on building a real relationship! To crazy that so many guys named Bob are pretending to be Gay!

    • @TheBOG3
      @TheBOG3 10 месяцев назад

      Justin not Austin.

  • @TaraSmallss
    @TaraSmallss 10 месяцев назад +7

    He's def guilty. They always run out and ask for help instead of just calling 911

  • @VeeLondon1449
    @VeeLondon1449 10 месяцев назад +7

    I sympathise with the son Justin Fitzhugh, his mother was killed, and he finds out his father isn’t his biological father.

    • @blueStarKitt7924
      @blueStarKitt7924 7 месяцев назад

      And the other son too, since his mother was murdered by his father.😞

    • @lonemaus562
      @lonemaus562 7 месяцев назад

      He will forever be a lonely soul.. such a tragic story..I blame the mother she ruined so many lives because of her affair.

  • @ruthstevens8805
    @ruthstevens8805 10 месяцев назад +44

    I have never met a man who willingly goes shopping with a woman, let alone 2! It smacked of wanting witnesses, so i knew what was coming. What an ugly mess, I feel for the children.

    • @sorrelbee113
      @sorrelbee113 10 месяцев назад +2

      Ngl, if you've never met a man who would willingly go shopping with a woman, maybe you've been hanging around the wrong men
      My partners have never minded shopping with me; I used to go shopping with my friend and her husband all the time and it was fun, even if we were just grocery shopping. We like each other and were getting to spend time together. There are poems written about the intimacy of daily tasks done with the people you love.
      Even my stepfather will joke about how long my mother takes to shop (and it's true, she does) but he'll good-naturedly wait outside the dressing room or whatever until she's done.
      Men who won't go shopping with you strike me as the kind of men who wouldn't go into the store to buy you tampons because period products freak them out. Seems dismissive at best.

    • @lolazal1
      @lolazal1 10 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@sorrelbee113Or maybe some men don't like shopping - especially 'window shopping'.

    • @sorrelbee113
      @sorrelbee113 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@lolazal1 well, yeah, maybe some men don't
      But if no man in your life has ever voluntarily gone shopping with you I feel like that's a problem

  • @hrdley911
    @hrdley911 10 месяцев назад +7

    Sure are a lot of 304s around. Cheating never works out well for anyone. If you take a vow, keep it.

    • @glow1815
      @glow1815 10 месяцев назад +1

      Or divorce. Tried to eat 2 cakes at once raley ends up well.

  • @kellyperez7736
    @kellyperez7736 10 месяцев назад +6

    It wasn’t Ken, it was those got-dam black shoes!

  • @louisestyles879
    @louisestyles879 10 месяцев назад +1

    Dr Grande I think your analysis here is absolutely correct!

  • @manewland1
    @manewland1 10 месяцев назад +2

    "A half-full cup of coffee" (at 5:56); Dr. Grande is an optimist. Thanks, as always, for another interesting video of a compelling case (my own cup of coffee is presently one-quarter full).

  • @DavianSinner
    @DavianSinner 10 месяцев назад +5

    That uneaten muffin, I wonder if anyone ate that. It would be a shame if it went uneaten.

  • @stt5v2002
    @stt5v2002 10 месяцев назад +8

    Isn’t it fascinating that Bob was the one who’s described as being a psychopath? Yeah, it sounds like he like to party, do, drugs, and was guilty of some white-collar crime. Not exactly a role model I would say. But Ken murdered his wife. And his wife engaged in a multi year affair, which involved intentionally having a child with her lover and conspiring to use her husband as a ATM machine with somewhat better parenting skills. When it comes to psychopathy, Bob is in third place.

    • @TheBOG3
      @TheBOG3 10 месяцев назад

      Ken and Kristine were broke. She was planning on divorcing him. His killing her was more financially motivated than anything else. Kristine had a large life insurance policy that Ken decided to kash in on, instead of going even further into the hole from getting a divorce. He premeditated her murder more for that reason than her betrayal from her affair with Bob and him being Justin's biological father.

  • @rigit23
    @rigit23 10 месяцев назад +6

    Real gangstas know about THOSE GOD DAMN BLACK SHOES

  • @evamonroy8110
    @evamonroy8110 10 месяцев назад +2

    The kicker is his temper tantrum during his interrogation.😅

  • @roya340
    @roya340 10 месяцев назад +22

    The breaking point for Ken. Don't underestimate people, especially the ones close to you.

    • @glow1815
      @glow1815 10 месяцев назад +1

      Yup. I knew a lady she was arranged married to her ex dead husband for 16 years. He was abusive mentally and physically ( seen him hitting her) she was this perfect wife quite, cooked ,cleaned the house and took good care of their children. She was beaten all the time for reasons like he didn't like her cooking, choked her for sex if she refused( she told me) etc. One day she disappeared. The next day she called her mother and said she had met a guy from work and her marriage with her husband is over. People in the community was shocked. I was too. Fast forward her ex husband end up living alone up until 3 years a go he died people said from broken heart. After that the lady kept going from one relationship to another, she's now married to her # 5 husband for 8 years. So yes don't estimate a person's...

  • @Jared_Wignall
    @Jared_Wignall 10 месяцев назад +6

    Thank you for discussing this Dr. Grande, I’ve not heard much about this before. Keep up the great work and have a great night!

  • @lunchguy659
    @lunchguy659 7 месяцев назад +1

    I loved living in the San Diego area as a child. Torry Pines, La Jolla, the zoo, Balboa Park, the city proper, Old Town, the Coronado Bridge. As a 5th-6th grader I Hawked the San Diego Tribune on busy street corners with a dolly of newspapers around getting off time every workday for awhile, lol. I went to George Washington Elementary School. It was a good school with caring teachers that taught in a secular fashion and taught us civics. Because of my teacher Mr. Beauchamp I now know that the name is pronounced "Beecham" lol... man I get lost in the memories of the visuals, the sounds, the smells, ...ambience. I actually loved the whole West Coast of the US back then. I suspect that it is not the same as I remember in a lot of places.... just passing thru... thanks for your videos, Dr. Grande. Best wishes to all.

  • @kcindc5539
    @kcindc5539 10 месяцев назад +5

    They got married on a Thursday… rather unusual don’t you think? It happens they married exactly one day before I was born Friday, June 17.

  • @amstarla
    @amstarla 10 месяцев назад +3

    Christine was a Music Teacher who didn't know a Deadbeat when she met one....

  • @thelocalmaladroit8873
    @thelocalmaladroit8873 10 месяцев назад +7

    “What about Bob” is one of my favorite movies! No connection to this story though.

  • @MadGrubble
    @MadGrubble 10 месяцев назад +5

    Thank you Dr.Grande. Your video is just in time for tea :-)

    • @victoria180
      @victoria180 10 месяцев назад +1

      Supper time for me

  • @zenawarrior7442
    @zenawarrior7442 10 месяцев назад +4

    Career criminal gets me every time🏃⛓️ Excellent points again. Thanks Dr G😊💚💚

  • @tripledair
    @tripledair 10 месяцев назад +15

    Today's question is: Was an Owl involved?

    • @terrijamison9154
      @terrijamison9154 10 месяцев назад +1

      😂😂

    • @trace9657
      @trace9657 10 месяцев назад +1

      When I saw "staircase" in the title that was my first thought.

  • @stacykeller3812
    @stacykeller3812 10 месяцев назад +12

    Ah…. I remember this case! He was really weird crying over those shoes! 😐

    • @LDiamondz
      @LDiamondz 10 месяцев назад +3

      Now I have to look up his interview! 😅

  • @bkell1011
    @bkell1011 21 день назад

    When Dr. Grande mentions "substances", I always insert something innocuous like "dishwashing liquid" into my minds eye to make the stories even more crazy.

  • @momof1576
    @momof1576 10 месяцев назад +4

    I actually feel sorry for Ken. I think he just snapped.

  • @GeeCoach35
    @GeeCoach35 10 месяцев назад +3

    There's a Forensic Files episode covering this case. Take the time and look it up. You will not be disappointed 😅

  • @robertr1096
    @robertr1096 10 месяцев назад +2

    In the end Ken brought more excitement than Kristine could handle.

  • @DEPORTER_SUPPORTER
    @DEPORTER_SUPPORTER 10 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for your insight Dr Grande, much appreciated.😊 Now subbed.

  • @Flamsterette
    @Flamsterette 10 месяцев назад +4

    Thanks for the upload, Dr. Grande! I've heard of this one on FORENSIC FILES, and I look forward to your analysis.

  • @elizabethhammstudent4850
    @elizabethhammstudent4850 10 месяцев назад +15

    What a tragic case. He had every right to feel betrayed but should not have murdered her. The revenge wasn't worth the price he and his children had to pay. Great job as usual. Can you analyze the legal case involving Michael Oher and the Tuohy's? I would love to hear your objective take on it

    • @elizabethhamm5320
      @elizabethhamm5320 10 месяцев назад

      Cx

    • @theSemiChrist
      @theSemiChrist 10 месяцев назад

      Hmm. A doppelganger?

    • @elizabethhammstudent4850
      @elizabethhammstudent4850 10 месяцев назад

      What do mean? I'm confused🤔

    • @yahnservices1978
      @yahnservices1978 10 месяцев назад +1

      That evil woman destroyed her family and is now burning in hell for it.

    • @theSemiChrist
      @theSemiChrist 10 месяцев назад

      @@elizabethhammstudent4850 ahah because you used your alt account to comment, it was a dumb joke

  • @elizabethwarman9028
    @elizabethwarman9028 10 месяцев назад

    Good evening Dr Grande, excellent analysis. As always I learn something new from your videos.
    Have a great Wednesday.

  • @1957Dirogo
    @1957Dirogo 10 месяцев назад +4

    Sometimes people get what they deserve.

  • @bebitamira3054
    @bebitamira3054 8 месяцев назад +2

    Your reference to a Led Zeppelin song is hilarious.

  • @thepurplemaskknows9383
    @thepurplemaskknows9383 7 месяцев назад

    Fascinating. Thank you, Doctor.

  • @ala2121
    @ala2121 3 месяца назад

    33 years of unconditional love...genuinely does not surprise me at all. The emotions you'd feel and things you'd think about...it would almost be difficult to comprehend, honestly.

  • @ztoob8898
    @ztoob8898 7 месяцев назад +2

    I remember seeing this case on a show like Forensic Files or some such. It showed the police interview with Ken, who blamed Kristine's death on the shoes she was wearing, saying that she liket them even though they were dangerous to wear while navigating the basement steps. (He even left one of her shoes on a step to try to sell the cover story.)
    "It was those shoes! *It was those DAMN SHOES!!!"* he shouted, pounding the table in a very, very unconvincing bit of acting. Even the pounding of his fist looked fake: the timing was all wrong.
    I agree with the good Doctor: he was guilty, beyond a reasonable doubt.

  • @Timefortracy
    @Timefortracy 10 месяцев назад +4

    She was Kristine, and he… was just Ken.

    • @florptytoo
      @florptytoo 10 месяцев назад +1

      I was looking for this comment. Thank you. 😅

    • @Timefortracy
      @Timefortracy 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@florptytoo He clearly wasn’t Kenough 😤

    • @florptytoo
      @florptytoo 10 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@Timefortracy😂

  • @Jeanninecomeau
    @Jeanninecomeau 9 месяцев назад +1

    I like this one. Dr. Grande showed sympathy for Ken. Good example of me careful how you treat people.

  • @loiskondo8349
    @loiskondo8349 10 месяцев назад +50

    Christine wanted her cake and to eat it too. She didn’t deserve to be killed, but affairs are dangerous! Thank you Dr. Grande for another interesting video!

    • @yahnservices1978
      @yahnservices1978 10 месяцев назад +7

      She got what she deserved, evil people reap what they have sown.

    • @dontmindme633
      @dontmindme633 10 месяцев назад +2

      I heard the statistic that being involved in an affair makes you 8 times more likely to be a victim of homicide. Unfortunately I think that statistic includes the partner being cheated on also.

  • @debbiec4530
    @debbiec4530 10 месяцев назад +1

    Dr Grande time to do a video about all the cacti you once had. I forget their names. Were they murdered? Did they “ complete “ suicide by jumping off the shelves? It’s quite a mystery. 🤠💕

  • @Revolver1701
    @Revolver1701 8 месяцев назад +1

    The last sound Christine heard was DONG!!!

  • @StrengthOfSamson45
    @StrengthOfSamson45 10 месяцев назад

    Dr Grande has increased his level of humor. I guess you can call him "Doctor... Venti?" GET IT?!

  • @hatuletoh
    @hatuletoh 10 месяцев назад +2

    It's one thing to tell the husband of the woman of your side piece you're gay--that's an old strategy, which probably never works anyway. But coming on to the husband to sell the gay angle? That's some amazing next level shit right there. And I think maybe Bob was kind of hoping his advances on the husband weren't rejected. He was thinking about taking his relationship(s) to a whole new level.

  • @MrWatshisface
    @MrWatshisface 10 месяцев назад +3

    She was for the streets but didn't deserve to die

  • @lesserlogic9977
    @lesserlogic9977 10 месяцев назад +2

    Oh my God, my jaw just dropped after he read the injuries that the coroner found...

  • @notmychelle
    @notmychelle 10 месяцев назад +2

    This is the black shoes guy! Those damn black shoes! 😂

  • @fatwoul
    @fatwoul 10 месяцев назад

    Thank you for fixing the typo in the title card. It was driving me ...crazy.

  • @michelleloveday6929
    @michelleloveday6929 5 месяцев назад

    I had an accident one time. Very serious. I lost some of my vocabulary. I struggled. I forgot the event of the trauma but I remembered what happened before the trauma. I remember the car. His story isn't very likely. He doesn't want to remember. Exactly. Escaping responsibility.

  • @grindingdeviance1864
    @grindingdeviance1864 10 месяцев назад +8

    This looks like one of those cases where no one is a sympathetic character in the end: A criminal w/ no desire to kick the bad habits, a cheating wife and a murderous husband.

    • @olddirtymongrrel
      @olddirtymongrrel 10 месяцев назад

      Yet I still feel bad for the husband.

  • @HollywoodBazzey-nu5oe
    @HollywoodBazzey-nu5oe 10 месяцев назад

    You brake down this case perfectly

  • @Wholesome_Hans
    @Wholesome_Hans 10 месяцев назад +16

    It goes without saying that nobody deserves to be killed. But if you're willing to do this to your partner, you can't be surprised if it ends this way.

    • @INatalkaI
      @INatalkaI 10 месяцев назад +7

      I was also appalled at her actions. Agreed, murder isn't the answer but damn, she was asking for something bad to happen.

    • @rreachingoutt
      @rreachingoutt 10 месяцев назад +4

      I disagree. It was wrong to cheat but this was totally uncalled for. I don’t think cheaters should expect to be murdered or deserve it

    • @Black_Samurai-fish
      @Black_Samurai-fish 10 месяцев назад +8

      She really was asking for it.

    • @rreachingoutt
      @rreachingoutt 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@bewareYTcensors I think it tells a persons true character how they react to such news. Many people would have been hurt beyond words, but wouldn’t have resorted to violence and murder. I can’t feel too much sympathy, but what she did was wrong.

    • @yahnservices1978
      @yahnservices1978 10 месяцев назад

      It goes without saying that this evil witch got exactly what she deserved.
      May she burn in hell forever.

  • @angelavolkov1126
    @angelavolkov1126 10 месяцев назад +1

    How does "hitting a limit" justify murder? Most people hit far greater limits without murder.

  • @shonuff2382
    @shonuff2382 10 месяцев назад

    I grew up in Palo Alto. Beautiful place but extremely expensive. I remember hearing about this long ago. Sad.

  • @LDiamondz
    @LDiamondz 10 месяцев назад +2

    Hey Dr Grande, have you ever thought of adding a membership to 'JOIN' your channel? You add some nice 'perks' and people have special symbols, chat, things like that. Could be fun, and a new revenue stream for you, too. Besides Patreon. Just a thought. 😊