Dr Yakoob Ahmed | How Islamic were the Ottomans? | Blood Brothers #26
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- Опубликовано: 21 фев 2020
- In this informative episode of the Blood Brothers Podcast, Dilly Hussain hosts the erudite Ottoman historian Dr Yakoob Ahmed. #BloodBrothersPodcast #DrYakoobAhmed #OttomanHistory
Dr Ahmed who is currently a lecturer at Istanbul University, explains what initially led him to study history as a postgraduate, and subsequently going onto specialise in Ottoman history, specifically the 'Hamidian period' (Reign of Caliph Abdulhamid II).
Dilly also questions Dr Ahmed about a number of controversial practices widely attributed to the Ottomans, and whether any of those positions had scholarly support and any Islamic basis.
Topics of discussion also include how Islamic the Ottoman Dynasty was in terms of their state institutions, governance and laws, as well as the importance of reconnecting with Ottoman history in the political, spiritual and intellectual revival of the Ummah.
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Jazakallah khayran.
Great podcast!
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Please do something like this on Turko-Mughal history of Hundustan with Adnan Rashid. I'm also particularly interested in Muslim history of Bengal
Great podcast. Dilly, can you answer this question or forward it to dr yakoob ahmed:
Was the tanzimat reforms an abolition of the shariah?
Selamünaleyküm, is there a way to get in contact with Dr Yakoob Ahmed? I have some questions about him and the studies he followed.
Great work. Shaykh Asrar Rashid recently told me that this knowledge of history, politics, etc is a Fard Kifayah. The Ummah needs more people like Dr. Yakoob. We can't understand the present or know where we are going in the future if we do not know our own history.
George Orwell's famous quote was "He who controls the present controls the past. He who controls the past controls the future."
We have to decolonize our minds if we ever want to be successful.
Most fields are Fard Kifayah , if we as Muslim don’t have experts in all field we will have to rely on Non-Muslims.
Actually, the amount of work done in the ottoman types is astounding, they wrote countless hashias and taleeqaats on a plethora of works, technically Allama mulla Ali Ali qaari is writing in ottoman mekka, author of mirqat on mishkat, as well as a commentary on nuqayah on fiqh al Akbar and many others, you have Ibn malak, commentator on mishkat as well and a great usooli, has a widely accepted book on it on manar, you have Ibrahim al halabi, he famously combined the four mutun of the hanafi mazhab into one book known as multaqa al abhur, he was the khateeb as well in fatih masjid in the 1500s, you have tash kubra zada, Ibn Kamāl Bāshā, mulla jeewan author of the famous Nur al anwar, countless commentators on sharh aqaid like Ramadan afandi, you have shurunbulali, the author of Nur al idah, Ibn abidin author of rad al muhtar, tahtaawi, the great birgivi, author of the most important text on hayd in the hanafi school, as well as al Tareeqa al Muhammadiyya, daman afandi of majma al anhur book of fatwa on multaqa, haaji Khaleefa author of kashf al thunoon, nahlaawi author of durar, the great majala and it’s authors and commentators, aalusi of ruh al maani, arguably one of the most important books every written in tafsir and hundreds of others who are giants and books are read and studied by all students of traditional Islam
Good you exposed Ahmed's brain because he has so many interesting insights. I hope this episode will give brother Ahmed more courage to be visible and share his knowledge with the world.
The Palestinians had a seat and a voice in the Parliament. The only time in their history they had a powerful war machine and the understanding that they are a people and a place held in high honor, undisputabley. However, the jews also had an order of protection, throughout even the farthest reaches of the empire. This order was in place for 600yrs. Respect was demanded, expected and equally enforced. Both were able to/allowed to prosper
The irony was that Sultan Abdul Hamid II dissolved the parliament and brought back absolute monarchy so
Why did the Turks fight the British in Gaza and Palestine. The war machine was always in their service, the Palestinians believed the British fake gold was a for real offer. What happened, they sla**ught*ring the Palestinians since the day they won. 50k Palestinians were h*nged by the British for mass protests on the day they handed Palestine over to the Jews. To this day continues the support.
The Sultan had to dissolve the Parliament because he was being betrayed by the very same people. Just as Jordan, Egypt, Beirut, Syria, Iraq and everywhere else Palestinian refugees caused destruction and bl**dshed in the host countries.
Jus not allowed to prosper more then the muslims
JZK Dilly, this is one of the best podcast out there. I really appreciate your efforts.
Barakallahu feek!
Very inspiring interview. Really makes me lean towards doing my masters in history
Excellent episode! Would love another episode with the ustadh. Jazakallah kheyr for sharing this with us
Asalamu Alaykum
Brilliant podcast!!! May Allah reward you all. I would love to see more podcasts related to Islamic History if possible!
Beautiful brothers, may Allah reward them both. Very informative and eye opening.
Great work and great discussion
This is like a long distance conversation. Im all the way in australia but i feel engaged. Im posing questions and getting answers in the same video
Salams, I really enjoyed this podcast, I would love a part 2, I would be really interested in knowing what the ustad thinks we have lost as an Ummah, since the fall of the Ottomans.
JAK, learned so much!🙌🏽🙌🏽 ep.2 is definitely needed with the ustadh 🙏🏽
Already in the pipeline insha'Allah!
Mashallah, amazing podcast!
*_Masha'Allah, Excellent Exposition._*
Ma sha Allah, very good ustad may Allah bless you and your family! High wycombe crew
I needed to hear a discussion like this .. please do a podcast on Caliphate of Abdul Hamid II and his time in exile and his stance when it was all falling apart while he was still alive.
Agreed!!!
There’s a three part series on him by Dr. Yakoob Ahmed, it’s titled: ‘the last true Ottoman sultans’
Karima foundation has the talks by ustad
Karima foundation youtube channel
@@079Y you call him Ustad? Is he yours?
Great conversation, great guys, great topic ma sha Alalh
Ma'sha'allah very illuminating discussion.
Love the podcast, the Qs ❤❤❤
Great podcast
Jazakallah Khair for this.
Can you recommend some good books to read up on ottoman history, and if possible the other caliphates such as abbasids, seljuk and other.
Barakallahu feek!
1. Inalcik, Halil - The Ottoman Empire: The Classical Age 1300-1600
2. Wittek, Paul- The Rise of the Ottomans
3. Faroqhi, Suraiya - Subjects of the Sultan: Culture and Daily Life in the Ottoman Empire
4. Quataert, Donald -The Ottoman Empire, 1700-1922 (New Approaches to European History)
5. Imber, Colin- The Ottoman Empire, 1300-1650: The Structure of Power 2nd Edition
6. Kafadar, Cemal- Between Two Worlds: The Construction of the Ottoman State
7. Zilfi, Madeline C. The Politics of Piety: The Ottoman Ulema in the Post-Classical Age (1600-1800)
8. Atçil, Abdurrahman. Scholars and Sultans in the Early Modern Ottoman Empire. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 2017.
9. Pamuk,Şevket - The Ottoman Economy and Its Institutions, 2009
10. M. Şükrü Hanioğlu- A Brief History of the Late Ottoman Empire
dr .ahmad is a gem of a person
Salaam
JazaakAllah for this amazing podcast.
What book(s) would you recommend for someone who has no knowledge of Islamic History and wants to study it?
Would really appreciate your help
JazaakAllah
Wa alaykum as salaam and barakallahu feek for your kind words. You can start with:
1. Inalcik, Halil - The Ottoman Empire: The Classical Age 1300-1600
2. Wittek, Paul- The Rise of the Ottomans
3. Faroqhi, Suraiya - Subjects of the Sultan: Culture and Daily Life in the Ottoman Empire
4. Quataert, Donald -The Ottoman Empire, 1700-1922 (New Approaches to European History)
5. M. Şükrü Hanioğlu- A Brief History of the Late Ottoman Empire
@@5Pillars any books on sultan abdul hamid (may allah be pleased with him) you can recommend?
Invite Dr Yakoob more and more please
What an amazing podcast subhanallah
Ma Sha Allah this guy is super smart
Barakallahu feekum.
What a great podcast.
Jazakallah khayran!
Love ❤️
Really good interview, I just wished the host would interrupt less.
Where's part 2 and part 3?
Does he lecture in English in Turkey?
dats my bro!
barakullahufikum
Wars of succession were common place at that time, all the Turkic empires practised this, including the mughals, the seljuks, etc.
Ottoman history is Islamic history. Turks just feel more connected because they feel its ancestral to the Turkic people
No its not and of course I AM GOING TO BE CONNECTED TO THE EMPIRE COUSE I FOUND IT
Aaaaand i don’t feel ANY connection to any other caliphate because Arabs founded it except for mamluks because turks founded it too
many of them just feel nationalism
@ohyeahyah5873 you're irrelevant
Revival is taboo word for a lot of so-called Islamic scholars nowadays
👍
Imam Ibn Hajar al-Haytami
Imam Effendi
Imam al-Jabarti both the famous son and father
Imam Ibn Abidin
Imam Sulayman al-Kurdi
Imam Seffarini.
Don't understand why it's so hard to just say in plain honest, blunt terms, that clearly these sultans were, by and large, devoid of morals and probably borderline sociopaths (just like all/most superpower leaders). And the fact that they near-universally accepted that the rebellion of their brothers was nearly inevitable, so much so that the rationale of killing them serving the greater maslaha / greater good of society made sense and was easily accepted by them, shows how serious this amorality was in the culture and psyche.
Let's just be blunt about what it was and then learn critically from it.
Sir am based in Istanbul i would like where your office
When defending a sinful Muslim, we should first say, this is a sin, then say but at the time..etc... The enslaving of peaceful none Muslims is a sin, it is harram! The killing of ones brothers is harram! Say it, then go to you defense if you have to!
The janissaries were Haram they were Christian boys who were abducted and forced to convert
The ottoman qaris allowed martial rape which is also forbidden in Islam
The ottomans decriminalized homosexuality
The ottomans condoned pederasty
The harems
Etc etc 😊
To call your self a scholar is not a light thing
We shud be proud of hazrat amir timur is well he was the bigest conqueror of Muslim history he had biger empire then ottoman and he did in his own time
There was nothing Islamic about him. He just butchered Muslims. He's like a modern-day dictator.
'Yazid is buried there' - are you being serious? That's a pull factor of Damascus?!
What's wrong what Yazid being buried there and it being a pull.
@@Joseph-qb1es smh
@@Joseph-qb1es Please read the history of Yazid the wretched. Are you familiar with who he killed at Karbala?
@@HK4718 Yazid was in Damascus when the battle of Karbala took place.
@Cosmic Reality Exactly
Adnan rashid would have been better in this discussion tbh 😌
In WW1 close to 400,000 British Indian Muslim soldiers fought, most of them against the Ottoman Empire, including the Arabs revolt... anyone that sold Muslims out have prospered built/protected by British, French and US... but the rest of the nations as we see are still suffering because they refuse to surrender to anyone but Allah Subhanautahala... Pakistan=(British Indian Muslims) still a puppet nation and the Saudi Arabs same story... Muslim nations are in this state today because of those betrayals
Haha Afghanistan is slave of Russia and America. Slave nation that is miserable. You talk about pak and ksa you shooder lover
This is an absolute lie expounded by a lazy propagandist, no "historian". I have a PhD in Islamicate culture and history, and I can tell you leave alone 400,000 (or 700,000 as the original says), not even 700 Muslims betrayed to join the British army. It's possible that 700,000 INDIANS joined the Brirish which includes Hindus, Sikhs and a few Muslims. Even 70 Muslims betraying would have made an epic scandal at the time. It's a complete misreading of the zeitgeist of pre-independence decades. Muslim mothers brought up their children to give up their lives for the Khalifa. There were no individuals, there were communities. Muslims were beholden to the ulama, and the ulama were spilling their own blood by their thousands to liberate India, such that there were hardly a few left to teach the religion. This was the reason the Darul Uloom was founded, because the Ritish lynched so many ulama the deen was being wiped out. Not a tree on the arterial Grand Trunk Road was devoid of a lynched 'aalim's body. My own family gave tremendous sacrifices and it hurts me to read these total lies and fabrications whose sole purpose is to shake the confidence of Muslims in their own history and help the West.
@Stemp3 a small google search would have saved you the embarrassment. Please toss that Phd down a toilet and flush it since all it thought you is what their system wants you to know... we know our history and we know who the sellouts were and still are...
@@Gulchihhello guys i am a Turk. Who's grand grand father fought on those wars. I still carry his sword as a part of our family heritage as the first born son. Please do not try to hurt or agitate each other. What's done is done. Our first priority should be to understand the conditions of that era and not to seek for someone or something to blame. Most of Turkish people felt that for 100 years and believe me it is not useful in any way. The most beautiful of this conversation was for me. Dr.Yakoop said he wants to invest in people that's what we need to do. I agree with him.
@@tkendirli Brother there is no hurt or agitation here but simply a calling out of lies. We are open-hearted enough for understanding that era, but the foundation of understanding between brothers cannot be lies. You said you still keep the sword of your great grandfather, imagine someone saying that your grandfather was a traitor. And so were the people he had fought with. You would be enraged, wouldn't you? The outright nonsense that 700,000 Indian Muslims betrayed their Khalifa is a Western academic lie (not the first time they lied) whose outcome is the destruction of Muslim unity. India was the land where Khilafat Movement was started by ulama and it was so powerful that even Gandhi had to pledge allegiance to it. The people were beholden to the ulama and did exactly what the ulama said, because the ulama had sacrificed their lives to fight the fight the British until there were hardly any ulama left to even teach the deen. It's unthinkable that even 700 Indian Muslims betrayed the ummah, leave alone 700,000!