@fuzzybuzzy3159 I qould suggest listening to Skillet. They're a "Christian Rock" band who do have some bangers. My favorite is Resistance and Monster.
The podcast “Belief It or Not” uses that sound bite then sometimes talk about Christian rock lyrics that usually suck and it’s hilarious. Highly recommend checking them out 👍🏼
They definitely cranked the cringe up to 11 in the past 10-15 years right? Or am I crazy? I left this whackadoo nonsense in my mid/late teens and am 33 now. Watching these "music videos" is sooooo much cringier than I remember. Granted it's been a while.
Allegedly these gigs pay well for animators. Friend of a friend was doing animation for an organized religion but they definitely try to suck in their contractors too.
PEEP CALEB AND SOPHIA AT 6:20 Also the girl with the black curly hair during “we could be friends, don’t you agree” is alone with an elderly woman. It’s totally possible (following the themes in these videos) that kid could be the child of non-members that grandma is “saving” and bringing to convention. That’s fucked up.
As a person who works for venues that host these conventions, they are taking hours away from people who clean those places. JW's get a discount and us workers get our hours cut.
@@Nastasyashanti Thats the thing, they do, they make their members clean it themselves: and thus the cleaning staff of the convention center that isn't JW gets their hours cut because they aren't needed to clean for the venue, thus non-JW people get fucked out of money because the cult members have to absolutely do everything themselves without giving back to anyone else.
I had a children's book of bible stories for Catholics that had graphic pictures that were supposed to be paintings. I still remember the picture of Cain beating Abel with a bloody rock
Christianity and its branches are sick, I speak as a person who lives in Poland, where Christian fanaticism is powerful, so the fact that children's gore in biblical books does not move them no longer surprises me.
I went to a Protestant Sunday school. There was an illustration in a children’s book of Bible stories that fascinated me. It was a picture of a baby cut in half. The inside of the body looked just like bacon. It was weird.
It looks so good and almost has a neat storybook art feel, and yet ... creepy cult feel. I'm conflicted hard as an artist. I don't know how to feel with this. They even had a cute reference to the Caleb and Sophia characters in the convention one. In any other context it would be neat, but it feels odd with what we know of JW.
The tune is catchy. I always loved conventions (the smaller ones were called assemblies back in the day). I met my first husband at one when we were both JWs. I was out long before they were doing things for kids. As a kid we had the Paradise book I’m 68. Raised in “the Lie.” Left when I was 22. The brainwashing didn’t leave me until I was 38. I had to unlearn it all.
I love that you refer to it as “the Lie” as opposed to what the cult members call it. Telling people that I had left “the Truth” used to bring up so much shame and guilt at the time, but calling it what it is is so empowering!
I have 6 cats, 3 large dogs and an autistic child who loves knocking things over. The only way my Christmas tree stays up is a bungie cord attached to my staircase banister. My ornaments are another story. I have all plush and shatter proof ornaments and I gotta pick them up daily.
7:10 Grinning and teary eyes when leaving? Never - Parents started fighting over the food choice, kids were just tired, feet hurt from being socially forced into high heels, stomach grumbling from to much sweets and a horrible headache from the stiff air ...
I work at a hotel and we have a bunch of people staying for these conventions. ....let's just say, some people sure didn't leave thier rooms cleaner than they found d them
My grandmother held a war with the neighboring kingdom hall to the point where if I even tried to convert I'd be shunned immediately. It started with one of the men going physically abusive to one of his kids in the parking lot so she started shouting sarcastic advice into offing the kid to putting up a sign pointed at them calling them all weirdos, to shouting questions at them that was very uncomfortable to answer. She even loudly kept offering me birthday cake near a different kingdom hall.
@@pineapplepenumbra She was. She definitely was a rare one. One witness put his foot in the doorway of one of my aunts and she slammed it on his foot, and I told two that I would have to get shunned upon conversion on name alone so they don't want this ride. We're all a bunch of stubborn folks.
@@angrytheclown801 Many years ago I invited a couple in and asked them questions. After some time, and when it became apparent that they were ill prepared, they made their excuses and left. I was never visited by jehovah's -witnesses- liars again. I think that now it's actually illegal for them to go round knocking on doors.
@@pineapplepenumbra I think their tyrants decided knocking on doors was a bad idea yes. Mainly because not everyone is as calm and safe as you or I. You ask questions and I delight in embarrassing jerks. But some are just violent so it's for the best. That's also why Mormon missionaries pair off, so everyone has backup.
They should have included the manipulation, guilt tripping, and social anxiety that comes from this destructive cult. At least it would have some truth to it.
The fact that the girl has tears when she leaves proofs how messed up jw conversations because that time is the only time when she will feel the same not an outsider
I appreciate all the JW stuff you've been doing. Some of it's a little triggering, especially the Caleb and Sophia videos, so I just avoid those but it's so valuable that you do this. I admire that you can do this. I so appreciate that you are an ex-JW like myself and so many others and you know this story. Thank you.
I didn’t grow up as a JW, but started studying at 17 and was baptized at 19. I found it really hard to make friends within the congregation, much less a potential mate! The ones who were my age were all focused on “pioneering” and weren’t interested in being friends with a newbie like me. 🙄 I only lasted 5 years because it was lonely af!
You mentioning the flag hanging reminded me of having our Conventions at a coliseum. Inside the auditorium were tons of advertisements and one of them happened to be a HUGE banner for Hooters. Even as a child I thought that was the funniest thing.
“Being there late means you’re a failure.” As a Mormon, we’re literally the opposite, but sometimes to a point where it can be annoying. 😂 Once, it was time for church to start and like no one was there, five-ten minutes later, everyone arrives and I’m like: 👀
One of my childhood friends ws jehova's witness (because her family was one of them) and luckily her family wasn't absolutely batshit crazy, and she was allowed to be friends with us other kids. Now, as we're adults, she's an atheist, no surprises there
hey owen, i found your channel about a year and a half ago on my suggested page while i was still a christian. i was raised seventh day adventist; they’re not as high control as JWs but they’re pretty high up there. i just wanted to thank you, cause your channel took me to other athiest youtubers who (along with you) really showed me freedom from religion. i’ve just never mentioned it in a comment before but i felt inclined today. ❤
Lmao i remember in one regional convention when i was little, i lost my mom in this huge stadium, and i was just going around crying asking everyone where my mom was and all they did was shrug. good times.
I left my fundie group a decade ago and I dream most nights about convention. I’m always conspiring to sneak away to get out of there I really miss Nonstampcollector, that channel was a big part of my deconstruction and so hilarious
Okay, but as an ex Mormon (similar to JW to an extent) and a Fate fan/FGO player, I find it ironic that you mention Gilgamesh’s story was the basis for Noah’s. It just makes me picture Fate’s version Gilgamesh laughing hard at Noah if he becomes playable in FGO mobile along with other biblical characters!
Where I worked there was an arena next door. They would come in, block up the streets, all dressed up with their name tags on. No use going out to eat that day because they filled all the local restaurants.
Nothing of note but we had a weekend getaway this last June. We inadvertently scheduled it on the convention weekend in the city it was held in, in Oregon. Our hotel was PACKED with JWs. My 9 year old son was stunned that there were kids his age in suits and ties.
Song 1 with the ukulele is killing me 😂There's something about ukuleles ... like Colleen Ballinger. A vehicle for the untalented to sing their terribleness out loud.
5:21 these gave me flashbacks when 20 years ago my mom was friends with old women from this cult and they visited our home and gave me children’s Bible on the first page of which I could see 3 kids of different races reading the Bible with their own picture. It’s like cult lost in progression 😂
My mom's a jw And raised me as a witness But, I never got baptized Anyway, as a kid, I remember reading that book! There was a story with three kids reading that exact same story!
You're right about the flat bottom , I know somebody who built his own wooden boat with a flat bottom to go fishing , huge mistake. I went fishing with him and almost got turned over by a shallow wave at slow speed 😂 I was having stomach cramps from laughing too hard 😂
6:20 Caleb and Sophia Cameo? I mean it makes sense to include the quick subliminal message of "Caleb and Sophia are at the convention like good little Jehovahs Whitnesseses. Are you going to be at the convention, and be good like them?" --- Also, is it weird I get giddy every time I see your tree? Idk I guess It's just a symbol of your freedom, and ultimately your happy life out from under the thumbs of the governing body 🤷
The yellow book, I loved that book, not because I was JW, my great grandma was converted, and she gave it to me, and I loved my great grandma. And I'm happy that she never took me to get converted XD
My best friend of 16 years is from a (non practicing) Mormon Family. I can't remember if practicing Mormons fail the Byte Model or not. I remember she told me that Non Practicing Mormons are called Jack Mormons.
I lived long time around Muslims in a secular country. Most of them remember of Islam only when it’s Ramadan or they want to insult lgbtq community. They were called cultural Muslims.
Unacceptable...the Mormons do the same thing...once the meetings start the doors are locked ...no one comes or goes from the center and if you've registered to be there and don't check in when you get back to your home church you are asked about it ( grilled)
Thanks for sharing Non-Stamp-Collector's video with us. I've seen them all, and they are priceless. The story of Noah's Ark is so full of patent absurdities that there just isn't enough time or space to list them all.
JWs are nuts and all, but as a person who lives in the middle of bum f nowhere and is accustomed to driving at least an hour to get groceries I chortled when you you said ‘we drove OUT OF STATE’ in reference to what is typically my daily commute.
You can actually build a boat without nails/pegs etc, irving finkel's ''the arc before noah" presentation that is up on youtube talks about it, it's really cool! They still failed at building it but them following the sumerian description is neat
Growing up Christian, and going to youth groups, I never felt like I fit in , I had to be someone I’m not. I never enjoyed being with kids that were very judge mental.
Yes, true Christians are hard to find sometimes. A christian welcomes others, doesn't judge them, and tries their best to understand them. I'm sorry for those who hurt you in that way.:(
If the rectangular prism has the four "long" faces equal, it's called a cuboid. So that's the shape of the ark to the JWs, it doesn't look....boat-like!
My condolences to any children who have to or had to live with this religion for a big part of their lives. Instead of looking forward to Christmas or Halloween, you look forward to a 3 hour trip to do what you already do at church but longer, and much more boring.
I think they purposefully tried imitating the art style of some of the most endearing and progressive shows from the past decade, particularly Steven Universe (immediate association with the environmental art). I think they sorta mixed Californian Arts with their own take and it's scary because they know this shit is going to work on at least some kids. I wouldn't be surprised if they had personal beef with Bluey (another incredible show with great environmental art) and some modern Cartoon Network shows. Suuuuuucks, man, I can't believe they can just do that
Funny thing: if Noah was supposedly putting pairings of animals of each kind, then he would have had to know about taxonomy which didn't exist back then. Yes, actual speciation did exist, but the science covering it was unknown to humans (although there were some Greek philosophers and scientists who suggested something akin to evolution). So how exactly would he be able to figure that out? Well, he wouldn't, not without observing and proving evolution. It is impossible, it's a paradox. Even if God theoretically told him who to choose, it's still in direct conflict with the fact of evolution and taxonomy.
I thought about that too. Most of their animations resemble modern-day kids cartoons. I'm thinking that perhaps one of those shows' animators is a JW and of course provides their services to the religion (FOR FREE!)
Oh wow, I had a copy of My Book of Bible Stories as a kid. We were Baptist, but I was also a voracious reader as a kid and we probably snagged it at a yard sale, I remember those illustrations. It always creeped me out, I never actually bothered to read it and went straight to novels marketed as Horror genre openly. 😂
it reminds me of historians in the past, 2000 years ago historians were not like now they recorded histories and such but many of the times it was what they were told, they had no way to verify if the trojan war happened or such.
The "can't wait for the convention" brought back so many memories. It's not the Jehovah's witnesses convention, it's a Christian thing. Some of you might know it, the ACE school of tomorrow national convention. There was also the international convention but I didn't have the budget for that. So glad those days have gone by and i get to live as a happy heretic
Why does this 1st song make me think of the JWs wack,off-brand version of Adventure Time, where instead of fun they just read the Bible with their hands folded, sitting quietly😂
This reminds me of something I went to as a kid, CA conventions I think it was christain ambasadors or something like that, we would all head to the convention and have a few days of praise, singing and events. I was a pentacostal at the time.
Mormons had General Conference. There were satellites at the chapels. So, you would go and take notes too. It was fun too. Now of course you just watch it online.
I grew up Seventh-Day Adventist and we had a regional gathering every year called Camp Meeting. It was basically half a week of worship at a campground. I remember getting excited for it too. I'm not religious, and now I have friends that live across the street from the campgrounds that Camp Meeting is held in. I go to this friends house to play DnD 😸
I remember my aunts and grandmother took me to an "assembly" back in the 1970's when I was little. It felt fun, knew it was a religious thing but not my church function and I got to hang out with my cousins. I was baptised Protestant- Dutch Reformed. Small church slowly grew very small; the Korean community now has it. I live 20 minutes west of NYC.
Ah, so Noah's Ark is Gilgamesh fanfic, got it. 👌 Love your work, man. My bff got involved with JWs a year ago and she stopped talking to me after 30 years of friendship, so you help me understand how that happened. Thank you for real.
Actually he didn't help you, he brainwashed you can't you see he doesn't even believe the bible is God's word, Satan is controlling this guy's thinking, he's the serpent don't be fooled like Eve.
My grandmother was Lutheran but was too nice to turn away JWs and let them visit her regularly. I think she liked the company but she still went to her church as always and her beliefs never changed. Anyway, they gave my brother and me each a JW children's book of Bible stories when we were very little and hadn't yet learned to read. I remember the pictures scaring and creeping me out me out.
A few pedantic points: Particle Board uses adhesive to hold chunks or pulp together, is entirely inappropriate for structural uses, and I believe that they can't be directly exposed to water either. Plywood uses adhesive to hold thin sheets together and is likewise inappropriate. Most likely Noah would have needed whole boards. One significant advancement in shipbuilding is a weight in the bottom called a keel. Technically, any shape could be held upright with a proper keel, but the wider and more regular a shape is for the height the smaller the keel needs to be for that purpose. The reason the bottom of almost all watercraft of any size is round is that true corners have very low pressure tolerance compared to a round bottom. The only exceptions that I can think of is jet skis and airboats that can't be used in rough water and also use a technique called fluting (which is not a true corner anyways) to resist bending, and flat rafts that are used because better options are not available. I apologize if I appear aggressive or haughty, I don't mean it like that.
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"....you're not making christianity better, you're making rock&roll worse!"
- Hank Hill (King of the Hill) on 'christian rock'
There's very few Christian rock bands that don't suck shit
@fuzzybuzzy3159 I qould suggest listening to Skillet. They're a "Christian Rock" band who do have some bangers. My favorite is Resistance and Monster.
@@fuzzybuzzy3159August Burns Red is great, they're really heavy though, so it's not for everyone.
The podcast “Belief It or Not” uses that sound bite then sometimes talk about Christian rock lyrics that usually suck and it’s hilarious. Highly recommend checking them out 👍🏼
@@fuzzybuzzy3159 I will always defend Jars of Clay, everyone else sucks lol
Genuinely saddened by how cute the art styles are 😭💔
Me too 😔 What a genuine waste of talent.
It looks like human bluey 😭😭
It looks like a disney or pbs cartoon
Yeah I think the same thing to, just wasted talent 😢
Fr
Ah yes, childhood trauma in song form.
😅😂❤
They definitely cranked the cringe up to 11 in the past 10-15 years right? Or am I crazy? I left this whackadoo nonsense in my mid/late teens and am 33 now. Watching these "music videos" is sooooo much cringier than I remember. Granted it's been a while.
Because their children's Bible (known as My Book of Bible Stories") is outdated, so now they have to try to imitate VeggieTales.
Literally😂😂
It's a hard knock life.
It's amazing how they use such nice music and art to push this cult-insanity.
Well if it were bad music and bad art nobody would care about watching the propaganda.
That's how they get you.
Allegedly these gigs pay well for animators. Friend of a friend was doing animation for an organized religion but they definitely try to suck in their contractors too.
It’s slaps so hard, but the message is just trash 😭
The vocals in the first one remind me of penelope scott which is suprising
PEEP CALEB AND SOPHIA AT 6:20
Also the girl with the black curly hair during “we could be friends, don’t you agree” is alone with an elderly woman. It’s totally possible (following the themes in these videos) that kid could be the child of non-members that grandma is “saving” and bringing to convention. That’s fucked up.
As a person who works for venues that host these conventions, they are taking hours away from people who clean those places. JW's get a discount and us workers get our hours cut.
Oh wow i didn't know that
Religious privilege
I never thought of that! But that's awful for clean workers.
I’m surprised they don’t clean venues themselves as we all know how they treat their members as a free working labour
@@Nastasyashanti Thats the thing, they do, they make their members clean it themselves: and thus the cleaning staff of the convention center that isn't JW gets their hours cut because they aren't needed to clean for the venue, thus non-JW people get fucked out of money because the cult members have to absolutely do everything themselves without giving back to anyone else.
I had a children's book of bible stories for Catholics that had graphic pictures that were supposed to be paintings. I still remember the picture of Cain beating Abel with a bloody rock
Yikes!!
Christianity and its branches are sick, I speak as a person who lives in Poland, where Christian fanaticism is powerful, so the fact that children's gore in biblical books does not move them no longer surprises me.
Family friendly book of the year...
doesn't go to the bible
I went to a Protestant Sunday school. There was an illustration in a children’s book of Bible stories that fascinated me. It was a picture of a baby cut in half. The inside of the body looked just like bacon. It was weird.
My old kid's bible talks about sex FREQUENTLY in genesis and I'm still not sure how it got published like that
It looks so good and almost has a neat storybook art feel, and yet ... creepy cult feel.
I'm conflicted hard as an artist. I don't know how to feel with this.
They even had a cute reference to the Caleb and Sophia characters in the convention one. In any other context it would be neat, but it feels odd with what we know of JW.
Yeah what I was thinking storybook felt and cult feel
I don't know if they have their own artists, or hire desperate "worldly" ones who need money.
Between this and the Miranda Sings response, I seriously don't think ukeleles can be redeemed in my eyes.
Israel Kamakawiwoʻole would roll in his grave at these songs.
"In Another Castle" by Kirby Krackle is pretty good.
Some good songs with uke are knife fight by lemon demon, anarchy by egg, and Euthanasia by will wood
@@Mushroomelixir I'm pretty sure euthanasia is actually guitar, but I'm not sure.
@@Mushroomelixiromg i love knife fight the first strum of the ukulele instantly made me think of knife fight
The tune is catchy. I always loved conventions (the smaller ones were called assemblies back in the day). I met my first husband at one when we were both JWs. I was out long before they were doing things for kids. As a kid we had the Paradise book I’m 68. Raised in “the Lie.” Left when I was 22. The brainwashing didn’t leave me until I was 38. I had to unlearn it all.
Hope your in a better place now
(Edit) But not like dead or something
@@lukathefae3904 I am, thank you 😊
Sounds like you did a good job of unlearning.
I love that you refer to it as “the Lie” as opposed to what the cult members call it. Telling people that I had left “the Truth” used to bring up so much shame and guilt at the time, but calling it what it is is so empowering!
@@leslieyancey5084 Thank you. I can’t take credit for the idea. I’ve heard others refer to it as that. It is what it is though!!!
The only thing that is unbelievable about your stories owen is that you have two cats and that Christmas tree is still standing 😂😂😂
-_-
The latter half of that sentence reminded me of "I'm still standing" by Elton john! I LOVE that song!
I have two cats. My tree stands tall, thanks to being secured to the wall with a bungee cord.
I have 6 cats, 3 large dogs and an autistic child who loves knocking things over. The only way my Christmas tree stays up is a bungie cord attached to my staircase banister. My ornaments are another story. I have all plush and shatter proof ornaments and I gotta pick them up daily.
It's a miracle 😂
7:10 Grinning and teary eyes when leaving? Never - Parents started fighting over the food choice, kids were just tired, feet hurt from being socially forced into high heels, stomach grumbling from to much sweets and a horrible headache from the stiff air ...
6:19 you know youre too deep in the rabbit hole when you get hyped at the caleb and sophia cameo
Lol saaame. I was like "oop there's caleb and sofia!"
@@DayanaThe8th and their parents!
@@cheneethompson5756and their moms side dude 😂
@@cheneethompson5756 They got the whole family lol
@@Nastasyashanti
Side dude? Lol!
I work at a hotel and we have a bunch of people staying for these conventions.
....let's just say, some people sure didn't leave thier rooms cleaner than they found d them
My grandmother held a war with the neighboring kingdom hall to the point where if I even tried to convert I'd be shunned immediately.
It started with one of the men going physically abusive to one of his kids in the parking lot so she started shouting sarcastic advice into offing the kid to putting up a sign pointed at them calling them all weirdos, to shouting questions at them that was very uncomfortable to answer. She even loudly kept offering me birthday cake near a different kingdom hall.
Well done your grandmother. Feisty one, she is.
@@pineapplepenumbra She was. She definitely was a rare one. One witness put his foot in the doorway of one of my aunts and she slammed it on his foot, and I told two that I would have to get shunned upon conversion on name alone so they don't want this ride. We're all a bunch of stubborn folks.
@@angrytheclown801 Many years ago I invited a couple in and asked them questions.
After some time, and when it became apparent that they were ill prepared, they made their excuses and left. I was never visited by jehovah's -witnesses- liars again.
I think that now it's actually illegal for them to go round knocking on doors.
@@pineapplepenumbra I think their tyrants decided knocking on doors was a bad idea yes. Mainly because not everyone is as calm and safe as you or I. You ask questions and I delight in embarrassing jerks. But some are just violent so it's for the best. That's also why Mormon missionaries pair off, so everyone has backup.
@@angrytheclown801 It makes sense, although I live in the UK, which is considerably less violent than the US.
They should have included the manipulation, guilt tripping, and social anxiety that comes from this destructive cult. At least it would have some truth to it.
Social anxiety?
The fact that the girl has tears when she leaves proofs how messed up jw conversations because that time is the only time when she will feel the same not an outsider
this feels like a cult thanks Owen for bringing awareness our religion is fucked
I'm sorry you have to deal with this.
It's definitely a cult!
Not like we really needed the reminder
Run for the hills, bro
There's no question that it's a cult.
I want a parody of the convention song to make it into an anime convention song.
Make sure you reference taking a shower.
We need this
lol yes and one for a brony convention as well
this, i hate that the song itself is really cute and nice and it has to be garbage cult lyrics
It's so awful when you're growing up in the cult, and always segregated from the rest of the world!
I appreciate all the JW stuff you've been doing. Some of it's a little triggering, especially the Caleb and Sophia videos, so I just avoid those but it's so valuable that you do this. I admire that you can do this. I so appreciate that you are an ex-JW like myself and so many others and you know this story. Thank you.
The Ukulele is bringing HEAVY RUclips apology vibes lmao
I didn’t grow up as a JW, but started studying at 17 and was baptized at 19. I found it really hard to make friends within the congregation, much less a potential mate! The ones who were my age were all focused on “pioneering” and weren’t interested in being friends with a newbie like me. 🙄 I only lasted 5 years because it was lonely af!
What made you decide to join the JW'S in the first place?
What influenced you to join a cult?
You mentioning the flag hanging reminded me of having our Conventions at a coliseum. Inside the auditorium were tons of advertisements and one of them happened to be a HUGE banner for Hooters. Even as a child I thought that was the funniest thing.
Was it the Macon Coliseum in Ga? Their home team was called Macon Whoopie! 🤣🤣🤣
@@leslieyancey5084 ha! No but that would have made it 10x funnier. This one was in Richmond, VA.
Its so funny that my family and the society made me feel like a loser for wanting to be a cartonist and an animator, and now they make cartoons 😂
The words "Jehovah's Witness" and "music video" should not be as close together as they are here.
“Being there late means you’re a failure.” As a Mormon, we’re literally the opposite, but sometimes to a point where it can be annoying. 😂 Once, it was time for church to start and like no one was there, five-ten minutes later, everyone arrives and I’m like: 👀
Are you out of the cult now?
@@pineapplepenumbra nah, I love my cult ☀️ 🌈 ☺️
@@LDSkyknight You can't be properly in a cult if you recognise that it's a cult... can you?
mormons arent as bad as jw's but its still a cult i think u need to be careful
@pinapplepenumbra 🤦♂️he’s being sarcastic lol, and I love my ‘cult’ too
One of my childhood friends ws jehova's witness (because her family was one of them) and luckily her family wasn't absolutely batshit crazy, and she was allowed to be friends with us other kids.
Now, as we're adults, she's an atheist, no surprises there
hey owen, i found your channel about a year and a half ago on my suggested page while i was still a christian. i was raised seventh day adventist; they’re not as high control as JWs but they’re pretty high up there. i just wanted to thank you, cause your channel took me to other athiest youtubers who (along with you) really showed me freedom from religion. i’ve just never mentioned it in a comment before but i felt inclined today. ❤
Kittie wants to see outside
My cats used to love the window he's too old now
All he worries about is treats sleep and food 😂
My nine year old cats still like windows and want to go outside.
My cat still craves loves and belly rubs
The way he says “and now I have a wife” is full of so much sass it’s honestly great
Lmao i remember in one regional convention when i was little, i lost my mom in this huge stadium, and i was just going around crying asking everyone where my mom was and all they did was shrug. good times.
Kitty heard the ukulele music and was instantly like nap time! Don’t care who I have to snuggle around here, I’m getting a nap in😂❤
Miki is comforting Cashmere “it’s ok we’ll get through this atrocity of a song together”
@@potatodarright! 😂
I love seeing the kitties!
Caleb and Sophia cameo 6:19
And Mom & Dad are sitting right next to them! It’s the whole family..
I left my fundie group a decade ago and I dream most nights about convention. I’m always conspiring to sneak away to get out of there
I really miss Nonstampcollector, that channel was a big part of my deconstruction and so hilarious
Okay, but as an ex Mormon (similar to JW to an extent) and a Fate fan/FGO player, I find it ironic that you mention Gilgamesh’s story was the basis for Noah’s. It just makes me picture Fate’s version Gilgamesh laughing hard at Noah if he becomes playable in FGO mobile along with other biblical characters!
Where I worked there was an arena next door. They would come in, block up the streets, all dressed up with their name tags on. No use going out to eat that day because they filled all the local restaurants.
Watching this during the meeting, lol
Nothing of note but we had a weekend getaway this last June. We inadvertently scheduled it on the convention weekend in the city it was held in, in Oregon. Our hotel was PACKED with JWs. My 9 year old son was stunned that there were kids his age in suits and ties.
Song 1 with the ukulele is killing me 😂There's something about ukuleles ... like Colleen Ballinger. A vehicle for the untalented to sing their terribleness out loud.
"Hanging out with people who drink; not allowed" YET FROM WHAT YOU'VE SAID THEY OFTEN DRINK LIKE FISH!
AHHH HYPOCRISY
6 minutes 20 seconds Caleb and Sophia cameo 😂😂😂😂
Hahaha, great catch! I’m glad I read this comment. I paused it @ 6:20 & sure enough, not just Caleb & Sophia, but their Mom & Dad are there too!
@sparklingdragon8888 I don't normally comment, on videos but it made me laugh so hard to see thier family cameo. I had to. ♡
5:21 these gave me flashbacks when 20 years ago my mom was friends with old women from this cult and they visited our home and gave me children’s Bible on the first page of which I could see 3 kids of different races reading the Bible with their own picture. It’s like cult lost in progression 😂
My mom's a jw
And raised me as a witness
But, I never got baptized
Anyway, as a kid, I remember reading that book!
There was a story with three kids reading that exact same story!
You're right about the flat bottom , I know somebody who built his own wooden boat with a flat bottom to go fishing , huge mistake. I went fishing with him and almost got turned over by a shallow wave at slow speed 😂 I was having stomach cramps from laughing too hard 😂
6:20 Caleb and Sophia Cameo? I mean it makes sense to include the quick subliminal message of "Caleb and Sophia are at the convention like good little Jehovahs Whitnesseses. Are you going to be at the convention, and be good like them?"
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Also, is it weird I get giddy every time I see your tree? Idk I guess It's just a symbol of your freedom, and ultimately your happy life out from under the thumbs of the governing body 🤷
The yellow book, I loved that book, not because I was JW, my great grandma was converted, and she gave it to me, and I loved my great grandma. And I'm happy that she never took me to get converted XD
Fab video as always!
I just have to let you know that I think the word you were looking for is cuboid 😂 16:40
I’m pretty sure it’s rectangular prism, which he actually says out loud and doesn’t seem to notice
My best friend of 16 years is from a (non practicing) Mormon Family. I can't remember if practicing Mormons fail the Byte Model or not. I remember she told me that Non Practicing Mormons are called Jack Mormons.
I lived long time around Muslims in a secular country. Most of them remember of Islam only when it’s Ramadan or they want to insult lgbtq community. They were called cultural Muslims.
Nice to see I'm not the only one who had their Christmas tree up still in January lol.
That taylor swift song popped up in my head! Lol!
"We can leave the Christmas lights up til January"
I use Ethiopian Christmas as an excuse.
30 minutes? Not everyone is arriving on time, especially for example, if someone is late because of horrible traffic
Unacceptable...the Mormons do the same thing...once the meetings start the doors are locked ...no one comes or goes from the center and if you've registered to be there and don't check in when you get back to your home church you are asked about it ( grilled)
That's a stoning.
@@gregoryferber3231 that's interesting because I never heard that word before, but thanks for explaining that i guess.
Do I spy Caleb and Sofia's family by 6:21 what a crossover 😅
Thank you for keeping up the awareness.
Thanks for sharing Non-Stamp-Collector's video with us. I've seen them all, and they are priceless. The story of Noah's Ark is so full of patent absurdities that there just isn't enough time or space to list them all.
6:21 there! thats them officer! caleb and sophia thinking they can hide in another jehovahs witness animation!
6:20 The family in this shot kind of looks like Caleb and Sophia's family.
JWs are nuts and all, but as a person who lives in the middle of bum f nowhere and is accustomed to driving at least an hour to get groceries I chortled when you you said ‘we drove OUT OF STATE’ in reference to what is typically my daily commute.
You can actually build a boat without nails/pegs etc, irving finkel's ''the arc before noah" presentation that is up on youtube talks about it, it's really cool! They still failed at building it but them following the sumerian description is neat
6:20 i think i found caleb and Sophia. Should've guessed they'd be there.
Growing up Christian, and going to youth groups, I never felt like I fit in , I had to be someone I’m not.
I never enjoyed being with kids that were very judge mental.
Yes, true Christians are hard to find sometimes. A christian welcomes others, doesn't judge them, and tries their best to understand them. I'm sorry for those who hurt you in that way.:(
If the rectangular prism has the four "long" faces equal, it's called a cuboid. So that's the shape of the ark to the JWs, it doesn't look....boat-like!
I always fall asleep during these conventions. I would've stayed awake longer if the ones I attended were in English.
Idk how people stay focused during these conventions. I used to always space out
I don't believe there are any scriptural passage that suggested noah went out preaching...unless someone can tell me one.
In the UK, you'd've learned that shape as a cuboid. But the US does have some differences in mathematical language, so idk.
Y'all, that Noah's Ark parody video 😂😂😂😂 so many great points, I can't
You gotta give credit where credit is due. JW's got some skilled artists.
My condolences to any children who have to or had to live with this religion for a big part of their lives. Instead of looking forward to Christmas or Halloween, you look forward to a 3 hour trip to do what you already do at church but longer, and much more boring.
I think they purposefully tried imitating the art style of some of the most endearing and progressive shows from the past decade, particularly Steven Universe (immediate association with the environmental art). I think they sorta mixed Californian Arts with their own take and it's scary because they know this shit is going to work on at least some kids. I wouldn't be surprised if they had personal beef with Bluey (another incredible show with great environmental art) and some modern Cartoon Network shows. Suuuuuucks, man, I can't believe they can just do that
Funny thing: if Noah was supposedly putting pairings of animals of each kind, then he would have had to know about taxonomy which didn't exist back then. Yes, actual speciation did exist, but the science covering it was unknown to humans (although there were some Greek philosophers and scientists who suggested something akin to evolution). So how exactly would he be able to figure that out? Well, he wouldn't, not without observing and proving evolution. It is impossible, it's a paradox. Even if God theoretically told him who to choose, it's still in direct conflict with the fact of evolution and taxonomy.
I thought about that too. Most of their animations resemble modern-day kids cartoons. I'm thinking that perhaps one of those shows' animators is a JW and of course provides their services to the religion (FOR FREE!)
The Noah animation also gave me major Steven Universe vibes (and, of course, singing along with the ukulele is a thing that regularly happens on SU).
Wow; a giant "floating" box. No bow, keel or rudder huh
WAIT at 6.22 there are caleb and sofia lol
Saw them! Lol! And their parents were there, too
A parallelepiped is a shape where all 6 sides are shapes with 4 corners. Great video! 😊
*where all 6 sides are parallelograms
Oh wow, I had a copy of My Book of Bible Stories as a kid. We were Baptist, but I was also a voracious reader as a kid and we probably snagged it at a yard sale, I remember those illustrations. It always creeped me out, I never actually bothered to read it and went straight to novels marketed as Horror genre openly. 😂
I need MORE Owen's cats!
🎶 ... and two felines in a cat tree 🎶
More like "Can't Wait for the Convention to be Over ". Conventions are the WORST when you're a kid.... And an adult.
it reminds me of historians in the past, 2000 years ago historians were not like now they recorded histories and such but many of the times it was what they were told, they had no way to verify if the trojan war happened or such.
The "can't wait for the convention" brought back so many memories. It's not the Jehovah's witnesses convention, it's a Christian thing. Some of you might know it, the ACE school of tomorrow national convention. There was also the international convention but I didn't have the budget for that.
So glad those days have gone by and i get to live as a happy heretic
Noahs house looks like a trailer…. Didn’t know there were Airstreams in those days! Haha😅
what a welcome surprise to see you giving promo to non stamp collector!! two of my favorite creators having a lil moment :’)
Jehova's house is a room with a drop ceiling that could be literally any corporate thing anywhere in the us?
Why does this 1st song make me think of the JWs wack,off-brand version of Adventure Time, where instead of fun they just read the Bible with their hands folded, sitting quietly😂
This reminds me of something I went to as a kid, CA conventions I think it was christain ambasadors or something like that, we would all head to the convention and have a few days of praise, singing and events. I was a pentacostal at the time.
Mormons had General Conference. There were satellites at the chapels. So, you would go and take notes too. It was fun too. Now of course you just watch it online.
Had? It's still happening, most people just don't go in person because of distance or time.
18:40 it’s 500. 50 is the absolute minimum you could survive with, but at least 500 to avoid the worst of biology
I grew up Seventh-Day Adventist and we had a regional gathering every year called Camp Meeting. It was basically half a week of worship at a campground. I remember getting excited for it too. I'm not religious, and now I have friends that live across the street from the campgrounds that Camp Meeting is held in. I go to this friends house to play DnD 😸
I remember my aunts and grandmother took me to an "assembly" back in the 1970's when I was little. It felt fun, knew it was a religious thing but not my church function and I got to hang out with my cousins. I was baptised Protestant- Dutch Reformed. Small church slowly grew very small; the Korean community now has it. I live 20 minutes west of NYC.
Ah, so Noah's Ark is Gilgamesh fanfic, got it. 👌
Love your work, man. My bff got involved with JWs a year ago and she stopped talking to me after 30 years of friendship, so you help me understand how that happened. Thank you for real.
Actually he didn't help you, he brainwashed you can't you see he doesn't even believe the bible is God's word, Satan is controlling this guy's thinking, he's the serpent don't be fooled like Eve.
My grandmother was Lutheran but was too nice to turn away JWs and let them visit her regularly. I think she liked the company but she still went to her church as always and her beliefs never changed. Anyway, they gave my brother and me each a JW children's book of Bible stories when we were very little and hadn't yet learned to read. I remember the pictures scaring and creeping me out me out.
15:49 this page scared me so much bc I thought that everyone that wasn’t Jehovah witness would choke me for being JW
A few pedantic points:
Particle Board uses adhesive to hold chunks or pulp together, is entirely inappropriate for structural uses, and I believe that they can't be directly exposed to water either. Plywood uses adhesive to hold thin sheets together and is likewise inappropriate. Most likely Noah would have needed whole boards.
One significant advancement in shipbuilding is a weight in the bottom called a keel. Technically, any shape could be held upright with a proper keel, but the wider and more regular a shape is for the height the smaller the keel needs to be for that purpose. The reason the bottom of almost all watercraft of any size is round is that true corners have very low pressure tolerance compared to a round bottom. The only exceptions that I can think of is jet skis and airboats that can't be used in rough water and also use a technique called fluting (which is not a true corner anyways) to resist bending, and flat rafts that are used because better options are not available.
I apologize if I appear aggressive or haughty, I don't mean it like that.
The Ark story is even more ridiculous when, like the YEC's, you put dinosaurs on it.
bru. Is that the long beach arena in Cali?
I had a friend who was in that cult and she hated it i felt so bad for her 😢
Together in Jehovah's house (totally not the Staples Center...)
I'm sorry, but 16:40 made me laugh: "A cube is a unique type of rectangular prism...I don't know what you call it then" 😂
According to research, boats were not invented until the third Millennium bc in eygypt.
At 6:20 they show Caleb and Sophia! Neat little inclusion.
No horror, slasher, or crime movie has ever been as scary as the video you just showed us @telltale 😳😖😨😂
Flashback to Spring Harvest.
Thank you editor for the kitty fan service :) such fluffy butts!
Even the literal cult uses the accursed Calarts style
It is called a rectangular prism.