why did anyone let their kids watch Labyrinth??
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the 16 year old kid getting irrationally angry at her parents over nothing is probably the most realistic part of this movie
Based LOL
Nah, she had a good reason to be angry.
Edited: Who they hell of a parent think that's okay, their child will babysit their baby without telling them, or going to their room without permission and taking their stuff, or complaining that they don't dating at young age, like mother she 15 years old like come on !.
Honestly probably the only realistic thing, 16 year old me at the start when the baby stopped crying would've said finally and probably take a nap or something😂
@@MiyakoPisces4.0like?
i watched it recently the dad literally knocked and shes like YOU DAMN NEAR BROKE DOWN MY DOOR!!!! and its like grl
So the Labyrinth is about when you're at the weird age of not quite a kid and not quite an adult. Where you want to play with toys and play pretend but also you have romantic adult feelings. It's Sara's journey to maturity.
I'm a teen and it's so true
And so is its sequel Mirrormask
thats called coming of age genre isnt it?
@@stmsinit's coming of age before coming of age was created
The "I don't want to talk but I want you to try harder to talk to me because I actually want to talk" is a really teen felling, I used to be just like this and still am at 23, but it only lasts 5 min now
As a child, I never once noticed Bowie’s pants. I feel like that’s something you only notice once you’re an adult.
I don’t think anyone did until it was pointed out.
Me pasó lo mismo. Yo solo quedé embobada como Sarah mirando lo bello que era. No me fijé ni me acordaba de sus pantalones. Es algo que noté mirando la peli ya de adulta. Y eso es algo que si no hacemos ruido del asunto, un niño no tiene por qué prestarle atención.
Same! Didn't know til someone told me as an adult.
First time I saw this was in sixth grade and that was THE FIRST thing I noticed 🫣
as some one one who watched it when i was like 11-12 i deffs did, i asked my parents what was wrong with his pants xD deffs an awkward conversation xD
So as an adult, the beginning seems really silly, but as a teenage girl.....that is pretty much the exact amount of drama that situation could cause
POV, your adult and a teenage at the same time:
@Gregory_12 POV you don't understand that adult women were once teenage girls and can reference their past...🙄
@@Gregory_12 * you're * teenager
Same here, and I was an emo kid. 😂😂
Fun fact about the baby, he was actually the child one of the puppeteers (her husband was the lead stoty board artist), so he had been around the puppets his whole life and wasn't scared of them (he parents also met while they both were working on The Dark Crystal)
That’s cool thank god that child isn’t traumatised ☠️
We watched this recently and found out that he became a notable puppeteer within the Hensen company.
Also his name is Toby Froud and a ** puppeteer** my b I thought he did story board art too.
He worked on Boxtrolls and a bunch of other cool stuff. Like Paranorman :)
@@whimai412 glad he had a successful career
No, Brian Froud, his father was the art director, not a puppeteer.
I think the idea with Jareth is that he's playing a role, and he's stuck in it. It's never really stated whether the Labyrinth is one of those 'different for everyone who goes through it' sort of things or not, but clearly Jareth, at least, is playing out the role she placed him in at the beginning. She made up a petulant fantasy about someone who'd take away her brother because of his love for her, and that is what he did. She doesn't love HIM - that was all just part of the fantasy - but he loves her, because that's what she wanted.
What makes their subsequent relationship interesting is that he IS stuck in this role, and she's not. She doesn't stay in 'whiny brat' mode after he appears, because there's more to her than that - but there isn't to him, which is why he keeps getting frustrated at her. 'I'm doing exactly what you wanted! I took the baby when you told me to take the baby! You wanted someone to love you; well, I love you - which is why I'm keeping the damn baby! You turned me into a villain; fine, I'll be REAL villainous - thereby giving you exactly what you wanted, like I've done from the beginning! A SIMPLE THANK YOU WOULD BE NICE!'
That is an awesome take
Excellent explanation. That’s exactly what it always was. Love this!!!
Agreed! I've always had the same sort of impression, though for me I always thought Jareth is doing what he 'thought' Sarah wanted (and what she thought she wanted, being sixteen and not really knowing the world) only for her to learn that she doesn't really want that!
Alex cut the line but the next thing that Jareth says after that big speech is "I'm exhausted from living up to your expectations of me." which is honestly one of my favorite lines from the whole movie XD
As a kid, I remember thinking that Jareth was essentially acting as part of the Labyrinth, giving different people different things according to their fantasy to maybe try and stall them on their way, and to truly beat the Labyrinth, they have to also "beat" the idea that made them make the wish in the first place. If you can change and do it, congrats, you win. If not, well... there's always room for one more goblin at the labyrinth.
That is true. I never thought of that way. I was maybe 4 when I saw the Labyrinth for the first time. All I could think was why was so mean to her mom? Why is she screaming at her baby brother? Why does she not want to stay with Jareth he is so pretty? Oh he is singing to her and dressed like a queen. Then, when I got older, I thought that was kinda fucked that he is a much much older man and he basically ruffuee a 15 year old with a wormy peach 🍑
Now I get where he was coming from, he was a 2 dimensional character from her book and she essentially brought him to life.
So about Bowie's character Jerith. If real, he did literally do everything for Sarah. He took the kid, made her fantasy world a reality and allowed her to play out all the things she wanted. His evil is more the type that gives what is wanted instead of what is needed. But she figures it out and takes what she needs (which also may have been him setting her up to grow as a person). Overall though I think the movie is all about Sarah learning to play with her little brother to make the chore of watching him not so bad. She is playing out her story and fantasy with her toys and just made her little brother the main objective. She was likely in reality holding her brother and dancing around with him singing "dance magic dance".
Absolutely the best comment. :)
It does seem more like he's teaching her a lesson in a trickster way than him being actively evil. Like "Okay you want the Goblin King to fall in love with you, take your brother off your hands, and whisk you off to fantasy land? Let me show you what that would really be like."
@@TetsuDeinonychus that's how i interpreted it too! Especially the scene with "as the world falls down", when she literally would have had no way to wake up but she did anyway after the weird trip/dream... it kind of looks like he was just "testing" her more than trying to stop her fr.
yeah his magic is very much "be careful what you wish for" fae stuff lol, he really did everything she asked and expected of him and all he really asked in return was acknowledgement
All this is my head-cannon now too! Kinda like the idea that Sarah processed growing up through a fantasy while taking care of her baby brother, because it's realistic for most kids to process things and come to terms with feelings they don't know how to address through playing, movies/TV/videogames/books/art, etc.
I love the ending to this movie, and the message that we cannot stay kids forever, but that doesn't mean that we can't hold on to our sense of wonder.
I think the reason the Goblin King is so interested in Sarah is because the entire movie is her fantasy. Its more or less a dream, a figment of imagination. And as her fantasy he is enraptured by her.
As someone who was once a 16 year-old girl, I can confirm: fantasizing about a powerful immortal hot man being obsessed with me was on my daily to do list.
@@mateleacloveraetalking bout me huh🤭
Nah of course it was me
Saaaaaaaaaaaame❤
When I was that age I was enamored with the books by L.J. Smith.
I've always found it fascinating that the creatures Sarah meets in the Labyrinth are actually toys she has in her room, the song & the dress she wears in the ballroom scene is the same as her music box, and that Jareth closely resembles Jeremy, her mother's co-star & alleged lover
Her bedroom is fun to analyze frame by frame in HD. 😊
Just looked Jeremy up in the fandom wiki as I’d never heard of him. Fascinating stuff, thanks!
@@tiedyedowl8367 :O First time I've heard of him too.
She is just tripping balls while her parents are out? 😂
It is amazing how much detail is there from the very beginning hey? . All of the answers to the movie pretty much before the adventure begins, very clever.
"Majic Dance" without the background music is so cursed lmao
I always loved the message of this film (as well as just loving it for the effect and music). Sarah is growing up, but still clings to her childhood fantasies. Her parents want her to take responsibility and "grow up". At the beginning of the film, you see that the characters of the Labyrinth are toys in her bedroom. She is taken on this hero's journey to save her baby brother (responsibility) but her childhood fantasy figure, the Goblin King, keeps trying to pull her back into her fantasy world - to totally dominate and control her. By the end she realises her childhood fantasies have no power over her, and she can be her own independent person, BUT "every now and then in my life, I need you". She isn't willing to completely let go of the magic and imagination of her youth. And neither should we. :)
In case noone else mentioned it already. The reason the baby playing Toby was so awesome around the goblin puppets was because his mom was one of the puppet makers.
And he was the Creature director of The Dark Crystal Age of Resistance
His Mom was a one of the puppeteers, but his dad designed the puppets
(also designed the critters in the "The Dark Crystal)
His dad is Brian Froud (LEGEND!!!!)
@@Bluebelle51♡Fave Fairy Artist
My moms favorite artist is Brian Froud, she had books of his art and I always looked through them she also made me watch this movie with her pretty often and I ended up really loving it. I’m so surprised I didn’t know this information.
I first met Brian, Wendy and Toby in 2011, and I have followed Toby's career ever since, and he's still on my FB friends list. In 2019, about a week before the release of Age of Resistance, I got to introduce him to my wife and discuss his experience working on the sequel to the film where his parents met and fell in love. He told us that it was a way of continuing his parents legacy and paying tribute to the world that literally brought him into existence.
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A cool experience.
Also, I love how Jareth is the villain but is the likable one who put Sarah in her place. She was purposefully insufferable as a teenaged drama queen, and a fully unlikable protagonist. My favorite line is in the tunnels and after she tells Jareth “It’s not fair!”, he goes, “You say that so often. I wonder what your basis for comparison is.” And just continues about his business. 😂
I love his line there!
Also, I love how Jareth is the villain but is the likable one who put Sarah in her place. She was purposefully insufferable as a teenaged drama queen, and a fully unlikable protagonist. My favorite line is in the tunnels and after she tells Jareth “It’s not fair!”, he goes, “You say that so often. I wonder what your basis for comparison is.” And just continues about his business.
Nah, she had good reason to be upset, lol.
Edited: Who they hell of a parent think that's okay, their child will babysit their baby without telling them, or going to their room without permission and taking their stuff, or complaining that they don't dating at young age, like mother she 15 years old like come on !.
@@MiyakoPisces4.0you have copy pasted this comment twice broski. No one cares
@@MiyakoPisces4.0 - I'm not sure if this is a case of you being young or a generation gap thing, but I can confidently tell you that in the 90s and before, it was completely understood that a teenage older sibling would babysit their younger siblings from time to time with or without warning, male or female. Many, many nights I would stay at a friend's house (guys) (btw do kids still do this because my kids seem utterly uninterested in sleepovers or, hell, even going over and hanging because "I can hang out on the phone" or "I play games with them online so why would I?") and his parents would be out with his little sisters at home with us, and this wasn't unusual for us even at 10 or 11, let alone 15. (Didn't happen to me because I was the baby brother, and my sister would be home with me a lot...or I'd be home alone not that uncommonly, definitely a generation gap thing.)
And yeah, parents 100% can come into your room at any time. There's an amount of respect and privacy granted to help the kid grow and understand boundaries, but make no mistake, that's the parents' house, and that is their kid. They have every right to come in when they want.
I agree that griping about dating at a younger age is a bit icky. Sure, have friends, and it's worrisome if they don't, but some people just aren't ready for dating yet, and that's totally cool, maybe even for the best.
A movie that could only come out in the glorious 80s. RIP Jim Henson & David Bowie😔🙏
You missed that part where like she is sent home and everything falls apart with old women collecting her belongings and tries turning the girl into a hoarder
In the beginning of the iconic "Magic Dance" scene, Toby is seen crying while surrounded by numerous goblins. In reality, the baby Toby Froud wasn't the least bit scared by any of the puppets used, and seemed to have fun with the scene. The shot of one of the goblins making silly noises and faces to make Toby laugh was a genuine reaction, and was inspired by many instances where they needed him to be silent and actually used some puppets off-camera to lull him. They had to wait until he was tired and wanted to nap after filming the musical number to get him to cry.
Where did you find all of this out? I never knew this!
@@queenzebra8219 IMDB for the exact wording, but Toby, the baby, is Toby Froud, son of Brian Froud, the conceptual designer for the movie. There is a special 'Inside the Labyrinth' that goes into details of the movie.
@@LaaryeYep. That particular baby almost certainly found the goblins familiar and friendly ;)
@@Eet_Mia he worked as a puppeter on Netflix's Dark Crystal series.
Re: Sara's self-confidence. She was a teenager in the 80s. That means she's a GenXer. We were the feral generation, the latchkey kids. We had confidence that we knew how to survive because we'd been going home from school to an empty house for 6-7 years by our sixteenth birthdays, making our own dinner, and waiting for our divorced moms to get home from the second job they took to keep a roof over our heads.
Oh, and more than one reviewer has suggested that Labyrinth as a whole is basically a metaphor for teenage female puberty, adolescence and burgeoning sexuality. In that light, well, she could do a lot worse than fantasizing about David Bowie playing with his crystal balls.
As a teen girl watching this movie in the late 90’s I was there for it.
During his introduction, Jareth throws a snake at Sara. If that's not a sexual symbol I don't know what is.
What’s a genX? Isn’t then “gen” thing a recent thing that was only coined because someone decided “millennials “ and “boomers” were a thing in the mid-2000s, and then they needed a word for the next generation and then the generation after that now that people born in the 2000s are adults with their own children, and so invented GenX GenZ, GenTheNextGeneration Gen2ElecticBugaloo or whatever.
@@Nevyn515 Boomers is short for Baby Boomers and has been used since the 1960's. While GenX is of similar vintage, it didn't come into common use until the late 80's early 90's.
@@Nevyn515 My guess is that it's a crude system to distinguish between generations for statistics and marketing purposes.
Labyrinth and The Neverending Story were some of my favourite films of me and my sister as a child. Genuinely miss films like these as well, there was just something very magical about them I don’t often find in films nowadays. Though probably they were kinda traumatising to us as kids lol. There’s a story my parents always bring up that when they were watching The Neverending Story once, my sister just looked at the screen, saw Morla (the giant turtle) and she just started screaming lmao in all fairness she was like 4 or something
It's funny you say this because after watching Labyrinth when I was a child (I saw it in the theater) and adoring it, later I showed it to two children I was babysitting. (I had sprung the then-ungodly price tag to buy the VHS when it was released.) The girl (+/-9yo) loved it from the start and her brother (+/-7yo) was only scared by the Chilly Down scene.... which thankfully for having it on a VCR, we were able to pause and I pointed out the puppet strings which can be seen. He calmed down, but I wondered if he had really liked it until I found out he (and his sister) were BEGGING their mother to see it again. ^_^ I wound up giving them my VHS copy and bought a new copy for myself. Being scared by something at the start does not always translate into being traumatized by it and being scared by something in a controlled, safe setting is one of the ways we all learn to deal with scary things we come across later in life.
@@morgianani6259 my kids also enjoyed Labirynth and they also watched Coraline in the very early age (my son loved it even when he was 5, his sister was scared but wanted to watch with her eyes closed (and her brother telling her she can open her eyes, scary thing is gone - and warning her when the next scary thing was about to happen, so she could cover her eyes again) funnily it became her comfort movie and we can speak the dialogues from memory, we watched it together so many times 😅 (my son asked if he's not scared said no, and that even if he is sometimes he likes to be scared by a movie). 😊
I LOVED this movie as a child! I feel it has so many inspiring (and disturbing) things! AND I in deed asked my mother: „Why does his pants look like this?“ And she nervously answered: „Aahhh well he… well… put… ahm… socks in them! Yes, Socks!“ I laughed so hard seeing, that you mentioned this pants situation!
Fun fact: Look up the story of how the Hoggle puppet/animatronic was lost for like 30 years. It was in a suitcase that got lost by the airline and turned up only 18 years ago. There's a youtube video on it but when they opened the case the puppet's rubber and latex had rotted considerably. Damn stuff of nightmares.
What is even cooler is that the store that got it paid to restore the puppet and it's now in the Unclaimed Baggage museum. You can literally visit Hoggle if you want to.
That timeline makes no sense lol!
The images are literally censored on Google Images I’m crying. If I saw that as a child, I’d never sleep again.
As an 80s kid, I grew up firmly believing that all children's movies should be scarring in some way. I don't know. There is something great about seeing child targeted horror sequences that stick with you through the decades.
Transformers: The Movie taught a whole generation of kids the concept of mortality.
90s kid here with multiple brothers born in the 80s so I got the second hand experience.
I recently showed my daughter “Spirited Away” and there are some moments of pure terror/disgust
She was frighten but I loved it
Man, i grew up with German Fairy Tales, and i can tell you, disney really made them look good
@@Raziel312 Sesame Street did that first, but in a gentler, kinder way. RIP Mr. Hooper (Will Lee).
Transformers: The Movie came in and clubbed you over the head repeatedly with Death in the first 15 mins.
"So the labyrinth's a piece of cake, is it? Well let's see how you deal with this little SLICE." -Goblin King
The animation with Sarah’s hair being filled with a cheese grater and a dead cat and Chris Hanson popping up! Then the “Mr Bowey, David if I may” 😂😂😂
This movie is chaotically beautiful and terrifying simultaneously. It is a fever dream.
You nailed it. To me, that is precisely what it is, as much for the viewer as for the main character. My 'fan theory' is that it was all a dream and she never even left her room. (which I'm sure others have concluded as well).
that crotch area is a fever dream more than anything 😅😂
It's about disassociation of the mind. Very basically it's a variation of the Wizard Of Oz, Alice In Wonderland and Peter Pan. And some connect this type of story to sinister things.
@@saymyname2417 Like Ketamine.
that is what makes it so damn good, as a kid i hated the dance scene when she ate the peach, as an adult i can say its so amaizng to see what jim did, to me my mother was a 80's baby she always said this was every girls fantasy when it came out to dance with David bowie i am sure Jennifer has bragging rights to other ladies
fun fact: the baby grew up to be perfectly normal, loves his role and was very close to getting a sequel made starring him
There was a manga published through Tokyopop that starred Toby
@@cordeliacullen2621 i need to check that out.
i know there are a few nonmanga Labyrinth graphic-novels out there, which aren't terrible
It gets even better. He became a puppet master!
Fun fact #2: Toby was played by Toby Froud, son of Brian Froud, who did the character design for all of the creatures both in Labyrinth and the Dark Crystal. His artwork is astounding, and he's published several books of illustrations of fey creatures from faeries to goblins. Toby later went on to become a puppeteer for the Jim Henson company.
I thought that I read Toby Froud also hosts a Labyrinth ball every year…
11:10 Technically the goblin king didn't steal the baby, he was given the baby. He was even kind enough to give her a chance to win her brother back.
This traumatized me as a child, but it also was probably the first time I can recall being wayyy too into a villain.
That man is responsible for my leather fetish....
No, your absolutely right. Those movies had a “magic” that movies today seem to lack. It’s hard to put my finger on but it’s like a fear of not knowing what the movie may do or show you plus a sense of wonder and adventure into something wonderful and frightening. Like you said, “dark fantasy” but the 80’s had a certain type of charm that just adds. Ya know?
Because these 80s movies tried to show us genuine fairy tales of old. People today like to say how it's "dark" and can frighten younger kids, but I always saw it as just "honesty". Because real life can and will be scary and confusing at times. But there will also be some truly wonerous moments. And that's what those movies did, they showed those fantasy worlds as both dark or unsettling and also charming and silly, just like real life.
@@poochyenajones1362for the record "real" fairytales are just two edgy guys who wrote down spoken tales and made them edgier for their own purpose. Because no matter what century it is parents don't like to be waken at 4am because their kid got nightmares about molten metal shoes or casually tell stories about sexual assault to their kids.
*you’re
Dragonslayer... Ladyhawke... The Black Cauldron... The Black Hole... The Last Starfighter... Cloak & Dagger... Flight of the Intruder... Explorers... all kid's movies that respected the intelligence and maturity-levels of their viewers...
And then came the Mac 'n Me's to f*ck it all up...
yes I do know, your absolutly right.
Okay, I love the Labyrinth so I want to clarify something- Sarah is not doing a play, the Labyrinth is her favorite book, and she believes that the Labyrinth will be easy because she's familiar with it through her book.
While it’s not a play, she’s still acting it out.
She's acting it out because that's what kids did in the 80s. We played outside, we got creative, used our imagination. And we read books.
@phaedrapage4217 Thank you. This guy is so completely clueless, and then he gets to David Bowie and he describes him as this guy 😮 no wonder he doesn't show his face because I would be😬😬😬😬😬 embarrassed to be him🤡
@@ramonesgirl1okay so I agree alex often has very little clue of what he's talking about and it can be a bit embarrassing, but you also clearly have no clue about him either since he's shown his face before in videos, he shows it on Twitter along with his girlfriend's (he's a bit overbearing about her being pretty and happy together in fact cause they got together after he divorced, which he also talked about in his channel) and overall is not afraid to talk about / show himself.
@@phaedrapage4217gas is kind of like live action role-playing that's what she was doing was live action role-playing that's what that is and I absolutely love this movie I know every line every word I can recite the whole movie and I think that David Bowie is one of the hottest people
fun fact: the actor who played Sarah (Jennifer Connelly) also had a main role for Requiem For a Dream, she’s a super talented actress! 😊
Hahha thats like saying fun fact tom cruise played maverick in top gun
I hated that movie. So unsettling at the end in the hospital.
Oh boy if you think Labyrinth is traumatising…
I always thought the stepmom gave the teddy bear Lancelot to Toby the baby, who dropped it and cried as a result.
That's the interpretation I had even years and years ago when I watched it as a kid so I'm pretty sure that was the implication.
11:18 Don't worry, Alex. That baby actor turned out to be just fine! In fact, he went on to become a filmmaker and a puppeteer himself and even worked on The Dark Crystal series on Netflix. 😉If anything, this movie probably *inspired* him instead of traumatized him.
Lol I just read his parents meet on a production of The Dark Crystal 😂 things going full circle
I will never forgive Netflix for canceling Dark Crystal AoR.
I have to say as someone who watched this, the dark crystal, and many other amazing dark family movies
Not every kid is so easily traumatized. And having a parent there to help explain stuff while it's happening also helps.
Thats so cool!!!
@@glitterbug5678 I was *very* easily traumatized. Ghostbusters scared the shit out of me, and Superman III and Star Wars gave me nightmares. All the 80s stuff discussed in this vid though? Utterly *obsessed* with it! I watched and rewatched Secret of NIHM, Last Unicorn, Labyrinth and Dark Crystal every time I could (this was in the dark ages, young'uns - before streaming we had bluray, and before bluray we had DVD, and before DVD we had VHS, and before VHS we had rental stores full of betamax videos because betamax was The Future and VHS was going nowhere so there were like maybe 5 given VHS titles at any given time, and our family was too poor for Betamax so we fought with everyone else in town for access to anything even remotely new for the VHS, and as to actually owning titles to keep in our very own home? HAH!). The only thing that freaked me out was the fire gang. I'm middle aged and I STILL just skip that song because UGH, something in me just cannot stand their movements, and the minute they started talking about tearing Sarah's head off... if it was recorded I fast forwarded, if it was on TV and wasn't skippable, I just disassociated the whole time they were on screen. 😂
I remember watching Labyrinth first at age 4. Started a life long love for David Bowie music and its still one of my favorite movies 30 years later.
Same. After watching labyrinth for the first time as a child David Bowie and labyrinth took over my life
When I was like 5 me and my dad watched the labyrinth and from then on like once a month I just have the most vivid dream about it
Same
I was 2 when I first watched it and became instantly obsessed. I watched it almost every week for years. Weirdly it was the first movie my mother saw at the cinema when she was pregnant with me and I’ve always been told I look like Jennifer Connolly.
i also watched it that young and adore bowie now!
Watching as a kid: This looks like fun and I will sing these songs FOREVER!
Watching as a teen: Goblin King is hot, how do you juggle like that?
Watching as an adult: Package, Worm guy, Package, Package, Hoggle, Package, Package, Yes
15:00 I CAN’T BREATHE 😭🤣
Y'see, Parents had balls back in the '80s and '90s, they assumed their kids had some grasp of reality vs. Fiction. Labyrinth is wonderful and kids are missing out if they avoid it.
probably not as big as Bowie's balls
I agree kids are missing out and that all young ppl need to be let loose more to get a mentally tougher but...
Our parents (the real Boomers) did not have balls they were just to focused on themselves to give a rats hieny about their children. They were off making money to spend on their own trips to "find themselves " and no one really had any patience or care for the kids. We weren't "let free to grow and learn" we were abandoned for our parents self wants. And I'm glad for it, but I would be remiss as a GenXer to not set you straight regarding our parents complete lack of parenting as their form of parenting.
@@hdw237 well, that may be truer in America, my parents were hugely supportive and fonts of information about the World right when I needed it. They never left me unattended while they went off to find themselves.
@warlockofwordschannel7901 yeah that was definitely NOT the American boomer parent. If you had both, which most didn't by age 11, they worked all day, left at 7 came home at 7. And then they were out again for clubs and meet ups and dates and etc. We were expected to get ourselves to and from school. Fed, washed, and homework done with dinner heating in oven or crockpot when they got home. On weekends, we watched morning cartoons on Saturday and was out of the house by noon, not to return until 7 if young by midnight if teens.
No one asked after us, they may show up to a game or recital- may be, and once we started working and driving, they basically didn't see us until we gave them info on our graduation ceremony.
Some, like my husband, was latchkey from the start. Starting in kindergarten he had is house key on a shoestring tied around his neck. He would let himself in after school, and Starting in 2nd grade begin boiling water for pasta or heating the oven for casserole. That saved his single mother mom time when she got in from work in the evening.
@@hdw237 You speak for yourself, or perhaps the majority, but not everyone had parents that abandoned them. Not everyone had your life, and I am sorry that yours was not as good as mine, but I think Warlock is spot on with his analysis. Sounds like you were raised by 1st generation Boomers (Silent Generation), whereas I, and I would bet Warlock, were raised by 2nd generation boomers (Actual Boomers). Either way, don't discount the childhood experience of others just because yours doesn't match. I hope you understand I mean no malice by my words, and hope your life has only gotten better throughout your years. From the way you describe being raised, I would say you grew up tough compared to the coddled generations (Millennial/Gen Z), and have a good grasp on reality vs fiction, right?
Watched a deep dive into labrynth the other day. In a blink and you'll miss it subplot, her scrapbook shows her mother being big in the local play scene, which is why she is into acting as well. It also shows her mother meeting another actor who looks a lot like Bowie, and they eventually run off together. Which is why the Goblin King looks the way he does.
In the novelization Sarah is clearly starstruck with her mother's life and wants to be part of it. She also kinda has a crush on Jeremy which, I guess, kinda explains why the Goblin King looks like him.
@@myrarefolly
It also explains why Jareth is overly dramatic too, which considering he started as an owl is quite a feat.
could you tell me the name of the deep dive video it sounds intresting
What and where is this deep dive video?
That and also the fact that nearly all the characters she meets in the Labyrinth actually ARE the Dolls/plushies she has on her Wall.
The whole ting is actually a Fever dream projecting her insecurities due to her fertile imagination, love of Theatrics and Drama and Teenager Hormonal imbalance.
I absolutely appreciate the fact you have “ the never ending story “ movie bc I’ve been trying to find that for so LONGGGGGG but couldn’t exactly remember the scenes or title and to see it , BLESS YOU
It’s a book as well!
There’s also a second one. The cowboy in (or AND) the cupboard is another good one. Not really the same strange genre though.
as someone who used to be a teenage girl, i never really questioned sarah's behaviour. sometimes you just dress up as a princess and prance around and then sacrifice your brother to the goblin king (accidentally) because you were mad about your teddy bear. yk, girl stuff.❤
Got married last week and our dance was to “As The World Falls Down” (the ballroom scene). This is my wife’s favorite movie and she owns lots of merchandise, books, and every media release of the film. I’ve loved it since I was a boy.
Darker fantasy films were my lifeblood. Everything is so watered down now.
Dude, my wife and I got married this summer and we had that song played as we exited the ceremony.
that song is amazing.
omg... that is my dream to have someone look at me like Jareth looks at her in this scene. I also haven't found anyone to dress up as this pair for Halloween. your wives (the guy that first responded to this one) are very lucky to have you two as husbears, and got to have this as your wedding song.
I'm totally stealing that idea
omg no way!! first off congratulations and SECOND I was thinking of that being my wedding song too!! Im glad im not the only one who thinks so.
The whole movie is a metaphor for a girl giving up her childish things and growing into a young woman. Jareth represents her childish desires, but he can only offer her dreams and fantasy. Which is why in the end she declared, "You have no power over me." and starts taking responsibility for her little brother.
There were a lot of really great stories in these 80's dark fantasy movies, this and The Neverending Story being my favorites.
I was 16 when I saw this in the theater. This was the theme that hit me profoundly. I have always been a dreamer and an intensely avid reader. I felt inspired to see how it was time to pack away some of the childhood trinkets and embrace the next step of my life’s journey. Loved how the movie portrayed that part of my life at the time so well and in such a fun way too.
That's definitely a valid opinion but I don't think the writers went that deep with it.
@@zerolegacy7821you’d be wrong, this is quite literally exactly what they were going for… google it
@@zerolegacy7821well, you are wrong
Yeah, they were great. The Dark Crystal was a favourite of mine.
The only thing that was unbelievable in this entire film was that Sarah didn't say "YES! Ok, let me pack a few things, I'm coming with you!" the second Jareth showed up the first time...but then the movie would have only been 10 minutes long. 😅
𝔸𝕘𝕣𝕖𝕖𝕕!😄
What? Labyrinth is a timeless classic!
My mum took me out of school when I was 6 to see this movie at the cinema because she was too embarrassed to see it as a 30 year old adult on her own. I loved it, she loved it. Still one of my favorite movies.
Aw, what a nice memory!
Your mom did an awesome job!
Fun fact, a labyrinth by definition is merely winding and twisting with few to no branches and always leads to the same destination. A maze is the distinct puzzle type structure with dead ends that most people think of.
a maze's entrance and exit are on the perimeter of it, but a labyrinth's entrance is on the outer edge and the goal is in the center
@@mr.bryteseid3189 well said
That is indeed very correct. Many people confuse the terms. A labyrinth is just a type of path, while a maze is constructed for deception (although not commonly malicious).
Labyrinth sounds better as a movie name than Maze
Yeah I think Daedalus was pretty definitive in the design, description, and sole purpose. 🤣 lol I’m currently playing a Skyrim character I named Ariadne, RUclips had no idea about my secret teen obsession with Jareth. Hahaha
I saw this at age 9 and used to sometimes get frustrated with my younger siblings and THINK 'I wish the goblins would take you away' and then take it back and really hope nothing would happen. Just lightly traumatic lol
When I was sick, my mother and I would watch this and The Neverending Story. Good memories.
I always interpreted Jareth as a normal faery. Less interested in Sarah herself and more interested in the deal and the game. She was very attracted to him, and he saw an angle to manipulate her, so he took it.
It's David Bowie of course she was attracted to him. That man could instill gay panic in straight men so hetero females stood no chance. 😂😂😂
@@bhart3321 Yep as a straight man I can confirm this.
@@bhart3321and he was into kids even younger than her very fitting
Alleged. Not backed with evidence.@@FirstnameLastname-gr5kb
@@FirstnameLastname-gr5kbhe denied a kiss scene w her wdym like tf
Labyrinth is like a movie that your brain creates in the dream when you're having a fever dream.
This is just a hilarious comment
10:30 do yourselves a favor and listen to "chilly down", the song for the red fellas. Its a banger
Just a note, I'm pretty sure the "baby actor" in the movie wasn't "traumatized" since his dad probably had all those critters laying around the house anyway
(The baby is Toby Froud, son of Brian Froud, the guy who designed a lot of the weird critters in Labyrinth and The Dark Crystal)
Also the line : "...just fear me, love me, do as I say and I shall be your slave..." Yyeaaahh. Jareth's Package was the REAL Goblin King all along.
It's about a young person leaving childhood and one's ideas of what life SHOULD be behind, and growing up to see how things really are - yet still keeping a positive attitude. Friendship, family, loyalty, love, helping yourself and others. Labyrinth is, at it's heart, a simple transcendental movie.
It's one of those great coming-of-age stories specifically from a girl's / woman's POV. Dudes love the movie too, but we kind of stopped getting these, outside of those Hunger Games & Twilight era YA books with questionable messaging.
You know, at her age if Jareth showed that sort of obsession with me I 100% would have said 'okay' and never got out of that fantasy.
But yeah. Her loyalty and humility and friendship to everyone else shone through where most people would get lost. I'm, sadly, one of those lost girls. I'm a little more found now, but... :)
@@BrokensoulRider- ohhh, I'm right there with you totally on this one. Though if Jareth DID show up at my window even now....I'd probably let him in. 🫠
Same. Absolutely same. @@katw.6519
It’s so difficult to explain to people who haven’t seen The Secret of Nimh how close to perfect that movie is ♥️
I loved that book in school. It makes it hard for me to love the movie that much but I agree its great!
Whats it about and why is it so good
@@emilyrouk1820Its about a mother finding courage to save her children from certain death
I think I randomly saw it on cable when I was younger and fell in love but couldn’t remember or find the name for like… 8 years
I've sent it and it was boring.
At 15:01 Alex wat part 🤣🤣🤣 also like the referencing of jrpgs through out the vid😂😂😅
Had this album ep as a kid & I enjoyed this movie.. Thanks Alex
This has a moral that is pertinent . It’s about that time in life when you have to grow up. As well it demonstrates that sometimes you have to work hard for the benefit of someone else (like keeping a family going). It teaches you the value of appreciating family. Pretty good values to teach I think.
Watching the movie as an adult, the plot is admittedly pretty basic and Jennifer Connelly still has a long way to go before she would be delivering Oscar worthy performances, but Jim Henson's creature work is incredible (some iffy green screen aside), David Bowie is clearly having a blast, Dance Magic Dance is a bop and the blend of dark but whimsical fantasy truly makes it unique. Alex is right, you really don't see these kinds of films anymore.
This movie is better than anything, pal. Stop bullying your betters!
I mean this was the first movie to my knowledge to use "green screen" but it was black velvet backdrop
It’s because imagination has been lost. Remakes are taking over (as we know) and there are no new fleshed out ideas for the fantasy genre.
Jennifer Connelly still looks absolutely amazing nearly 40 years later. Good Lord 😅
As a Bowie fan... Damn that man is fine....
Jared is the kind of fantasy boyfriend you want when you're 16. Mysterious, androgynous, has magic powers. And he's also the type of first boyfriend you get - petulant, demanding, dramatic. I mean, if David Bowie offered me that deal I'd probably take it, but Sara recognises a toxic relationship when she sees one. She's giving up childish ideas of her 'ideal man'.
Jareth*
Mhh, I bet this movie is popular in Japan. Your description fits the average shoujo manga protagonist pretty well.
All of the movies you listed at the beginning perfectly describes both what i grew up watching and my ideal movie. The art style and themes were so unique and made it so memorable
Bro respect to that baby actor, he probably had nightmares about goblins for years, I bet none of his friends believed him in school either.
Labyrinth was my favorite movie growing up, alongside Ladyhawke. The film was rather deep. Sara was so self- absorbed and had learn that life was more than all her daydreams, which she had to let go of. If you notice, all the things in her bedroom show up in the labyrinth in some form or another... including the goblin king. You also skipped the junkyard part, which actually is rather important--the part where Sara realizes all her stuff is just junk and people matter more.
Ladyhawke was so good too!
Sara has a Judge Dredd roleplaying game supplement on her bookshelf at the beginning of the movie. i don't know why it's there, i noticed because it's bright yellow, and is a very weird choice for a prop, since it's IP belonging to another company. but Judge Dredd doesn't show up later in the movie, unlike the other stuff.
Ladyhawke and princess Bride sadly forgotten in the list!
I'm so glad you brought up the junkyard scene!! There are so many times in my life I've thought about that scene and it's meaning applied to various situations. Labyrinth is hands down one of my favorite movies of all time..... Also loved Ladyhawke too!! ^_^
"Walk on the left side!"
I think one of the coolest and easily unnoticed bits from this movie is that all of the "creatures" and setting in the labyrinth world are all toys etc in her room. So hypothetically this whole movie was just a emo fever dream.... Close-ups of Bowie's junk and all 😂 Bowie also blatantly makes a "snorting cocaine" reference during Dance Magic Dance when he asks what kind of magic spell to use, then closes a nostril and snorts a invisible line 😂
Never noticed the nose thing🤯
@@Angelika5378 isn't it wild how blatant it is?! Just a insider thing for the adults I guess 🤣
There’s also very overt sexual lyrics
“Gaslit by the Goblin King”
Made me wheeze!🤣🤣🤣
I always thought Jareth wasn’t as evil as they made him out to be. He taught her a valuable lesson. One that she wasn’t learning on her own.
To this day, 40 years later, Secret of NIMH is still one of my all time favorite animated films.
YES
It's responsible for the entire Don Bluth post-Disney catalog. They literally bet the farm on making that movie. The book is even better, and well worth the read even as an adult (2nd book is fun, but not as deep, the 3rd one just so-so). They really don't make them like this anymore.
That movie scared the ever loving SH*T outta me as a kid but it was sooooo good. I still have it on VHS from when I was a kid.
I loved the Secret Rats of NIMH book as a teen!
The book should have scared you, it’s based on a real experiment involving rats, perceived utopia, and the carnage that follows having all your needs met without effort. It’s a fascinating study of societal behavior and truly terrifying, in its own way.
I’m gonna chalk this off as a generational gap. Almost everyone’s parents allowed their kids to watch this movie.
I genuinely don’t think any modern remake could ever recapture the amazing weirdness that were the movies of the 80s
Her running home through the rain passes by a deli in Rockland, New York, little bit up the block from where I went to school. It was the most amazing thing seeing it when I was going there.
Labyrinth is such a staple in my childhood. I love it so much.❤❤
Labyrinth inspires me.. My parents said if i get 60K followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording..begging u guys , literally
Begging.
Actually, she got the question right. The thing is, she immediately said something along the lines of “This’ll be easy.” And every time she gets overconfident like that, something bad happens
I think she said that it’ll be a piece of cake
But we all know that the cake is a lie
This movie and The Princess Bride are my top fave movies they both have everything you want and need in a movie. I also love the quirks The Labyrinth has, like David Bowies face turning up randomly around 6 times.
There was so many things from this movie that creeped me out and gave me nightmares. Yet, I still loved it.
The one thing from this movie that sticks with me, to this day, is David Bulgie. I mean Bowie.
For the last time: SARAH GOT THE LOGIC PUZZLE RIGHT. SHE FALLS BECAUSE SHE SAYS “That was easy!” Every time she does that in this movie Jared moves the goalposts in spite. First he shortens her time, then he drops her into the oubliette, and finally sends the cleaners machine to kill her and hoggle. If she could’ve just kept her mouth shut, she’d could’ve skipped like half of the extra challenges!
If she had just been patient an listened to the worm, she could have skipped the labyrinth altogether and gone straight to the castle.
@@946towguy2 would she have been ready for the castle then?
It was a lesson was to humble her ego, which was problematic from the very start of the movie.
Exactly. It did not lead to certain death.
Ya, but then it would've been an awfully short movie; you need the "Hero's Journey".@@946towguy2
14:16 "Now, you see, this is where things start to get kinda weird."
... As if it hasn't been weird BEFORE this point?!
IKR love this movie
Oh, I did love the Labyrinth was/is so good. I remember seeing the commercial when it came out and guilt tripped a family friend SO HARD into taking me. She was SO ANNOYED and totally did NOT want to go, then laughed her rear off the whole movie. She thanked me for 'making' her go. It is a cherished memory. Thanks for the blast from the past.
Man, I remember the first time ever watching this movie. It was in my music class I wanna say, my teacher was very much in love with this movie and I remember seeing her with such joy. I am thankful for her showing this to us 😊 back in elementary school..
15:11 is the best reaction to that line I have ever seen
I love how Alex never changed one bit. Consistently incredible content for years
he changed a lot. but for the better
I watched this film when I was a child with my father and I got really traumatised... I had many nightmares and now I saw this video and the title was fitting perfect to me.
I actually liked this video. Well done. Awesome editing. You earned a like AND a subscribe ;)
I think this is a perfect representation of how things changed. I was old enough to see this film in theaters. I was four years old at the time, I vividly remember the lighting, the big seats, the popcorn and soda... And just a spread of five years shows the difference some people might have on certain topics. This is most certainly a kids movie. It can also be enjoyed by adults. I enjoyed the plethora of "problematic" movies from those times and I am a well adjusted adult (I at least hope so) I don't diddle kids, I don't beat on people, I don't mistreat staff at restaurants and retail shops (by the way, most of those who do are much older. Seems like we act more maturely than our parents) I drink in moderation and enjoy legal weed once in a while. As long as you teach your kids right from wrong, fantasy vs reality and how to be at least borderline good people; this kind of movie is fine for a child to see. The only people who claim the movie is problematic are the ones who are finding things to be offended at and believe everyone else should be as well. There is a lot of missing nuance in that statement and shouldn't really be argued at length here; RUclips isn't exactly the greatest platform for discussing those kind of ideas in enough detail. Already I can hear the keyboards of a hundred upset kids...
I love this movie so freakin much. It's whimsical, it's a bit dark, and the message underlying it all is so perfectly embedded in the story. Bowie absolutely knocked his role out of the park and 90% of the effects hold up so well to repeated watchings. I rewatch this fairly often and it never gets old
That's the crazy thing about older movies. The idea was that you could scare the bejeezus out of kids and show really weird and disturbing things and have intense adventures, so long as you had the happily ever after, everything worked out in the end it was fine for kids.
Nowadays the smallest thing can get a show canceled for being "problematic" and "traumatizing"
0:48 Great...Thanks for triggering my nostalgia Alex... now I have to go and rewatch The Secret of NIMH...
11:33 ah the scene that made me bi lol 🤣 this movie is such a classic
15:01 "fear me, love me, do as i say." Also him literally 00.1 seconds later: "and i will be your slave." I agree that deserves a huge "wut?"
Labyrinth had something almost none of todays movies have. A heart. And an actual story, wich also is missing from the most todays movies...
You must only watch Marvel movies or something 🙄
@@kristalgic1534 how many of Marvel movies can you watch twice?!
Theyr ok... But no one will care about them in 10 years...
Also, songs you actually want to listen to.
Your reactions made me remember so many good old shows, thanks.
RUclips recommended this video randomly, and now I've subscribed. As a 45 year old, who watched this when it first came out, I was snort laughing the whole way through. Really awesome video!
I can't tell you how influential and inspiring this film was for me as a kid. It draws upon a lot of themes from classical myth, like the kidnapping of Persephone. So, it's a kind of mystical retelling of a coming-of-age fable. As for the infamous “Bowie bulge”...that was a Henson thing, Henson went through a codpiece period.
Look for a pic of DB with his wife, Iman, in (matching) swimwear. That Labyrinth bulge was Bowie. The costume dept probably gave him a rudimentary codpiece simply as a modesty cover. 😆
Don't we all
Goblin King is a better baby sitter than the sister. Attentive, entertains, feeds him.
One of my favourite films as a child. Recently played VR mini golf in a Labyrinth themed course and the way I was shrieking with excitement at being IN the film (kinda) lol
As a mid-80s baby I watched Labyrinth when I was quite young but I loved it. It's one of those movies I remember a lot of the words for; the interaction with the worm, the door knockers, I still don't understand the red and blue doors (not proud that I've had 2 people draw me diagrams to explain it).
I once heard someone trying to explain the movie to their friends and said "you remind me of the babe", and I jumped in with "what babe?" and did the whole routine with a stranger. Didn't help explain it but it was funny as hell. After Bowie passed away suddenly a lot more people found it which makes me happy for some reason. If they re-made it now I worry they'd ruin it with CGI, and who thinks they pull off The Goblin King better than than Bowie!?
Neverending Story = early childhood trauma (1 word - Artex) but again, loved it - who didn't want a fluffy talking dragon!?
Dark Crystal... that was something else. All of it scared me, even the "good" characters so wasn't interested in the Netflix version.
As someone who did not grow up with these movies, i completely agree with the point you made towards the end. A lot of movies that have been produced recently are just producers trying to make money. Its much more uncommon to see these beautiful works of art that tell stories that never get old. Now we get remakes of movies and every new concept of a movie is under marketed and might turn out good but doesnt turn out good profit. Its just a really sad industry right now. 😢
I'm so glad to find other people who adore the worm. While everyone else is simping over David Bowie, I was like "BUT THE WORM? WHERE IS THE APPRECIATION FOR THE WORM??"
I always say "ello" like the worm 😃
@@nicoleheppner6431”Did you just say ‘hello’? 😜
Come inside and meet the misses!
Nah. 🙄😑😒.
0:56- Yes! I loved almost all of those growing up!!! Especially this one!!!
I'm so glad you mentioned the secret of Nimh I LOVE that movie!
Bit of a trivia piece I learned from the behind the scenes documentary a while back:
There were a few scenes in the movie that were a lot more perilous than Jim Henson initially thought they would be, and when he asked Jennifer Connelly afterwards if she was okay, evidently her response was always along the lines of "oh yup, doing fine!" and he cites her as an absolute trooper.
This attitude actually makes a ton of sense when taking into account that the movie she was in literally a year beforehand was an 80s Italian horror film which, for those uninitiated with the b-movie scene, means practically nonexistent safety regulations and she even got sent to the hospital after being attacked by the chimpanzee they were using in the movie. By comparison, any of the action scenes Labyrinth threw out would feel pretty tame and good on Jim Henson for being concerned about his cast when things weren't going quite to plan.
(Phenomena is a fantastic film but sheesh the production sounded awful)
Yep.
Dario ARgento represent!
Who the fuck lets a chimp near a child! That sounds illegal. I know Travis was like in the 2000's but like those things were known to be strong.
I remember watching this as a kid, and then noticing something new every rewatch. Labyrinth is so full of so much dark whimsy and absurdity, I love it. I never realized that the genre itself was something I was nostalgic for until he mentioned the other movies like Secret of Nimh, Neverending Story, Willow, and Dark Crystal.
noticing something new every time you rewatch it is because these sets were hand made every detail was done by a person which is why you'll have the same experience with movies like coraline dark crystal ect it's why i'll always prefer practical effects it's real it's detailed and one look won't satisfy i have to look a thousand times to feel i've seen every detail whereas cgi while its convenient it's surface level it doesn't have the depth of detail bc it's not physically there someone didn't spend hours in uncomfortable positions to get the perfect paint job with cgi
@@surbert Lol, nope, not what I meant at all, though I do appreciate the practical effects, effort, and endless details. What I meant is I was a literal child when I first watched it, and grew up with the movie seeing and noticing something new, or catching a detail or line that went over my 6-year-old head. I missed just as many details in Spider-Man: Into the Spiderverse on the first watch, because people likewise spent so many hours working on their art, and there are so many wonderful details. I suggest and highly recommend the channel Corridor Crew to better appreciate computer graphics and and the hard work that goes into animation.
The 80s were a great time to be a kid when it came to things like movies and cartoons. When my sister started having kids, I would crack out the movies I loved as a kid when they would come to stay for a few weeks in summer. The Goonies, The Princess Bride, Willow, Labyrinth, The Dark Crystal, The Neverending Story, Back to the Future, Beetlejuice, Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure, Flight of the Navigator, The Last Starfighter, so many more. I loved sharing those with them and they held up really well.
🤣 I love that little cartoon in the right corner. just sitting there watching the movie with his popcorn.... that's too cute! ❤......couldnt stop laughing either Honkdogle 🤣