Rare Breed vs Non-Chill Filtered Rare Breed BLIND REVIEW | Is The Travel-Exclusive Turkey BETTER?
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IN THIS WEEK'S VIDEO
GLASS ONE: Travel Exclusive Non-Chill Filtered Rare Breed, 116.8 proof, ~$50 per 750mL
GLASS TWO: Wild Turkey Rare Breed Standard Release, 116.8 proof, $50
0:00 -- Intro
2:29 -- First Impressions
6:56 -- Tasting Discussion
12:07 -- Reveal & Reactions
17:31 -- Real World Scores
22:48 -- Who Are These For?
25:25 -- Bloopers
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Last summer, we did a tasting at Wild Turkey. We tasted 101, Russel's 10, WT Rye and Rare Breed. I found 101 and Russel's very similar and, in fact, said the taste was so similar that my first comment was that Russel's was not worth the price bump. RB, however was a WOW moment and blew everything else out of the water. I absolutely love it. The bantering between you two today was fun to watch. You were almost giddy with your praises of the products. And, I agree, you need to become brand ambassadors for Rare Breed. I'll drive your tour bus. 😁
Love all of that Roger! Rare Breed just seems to hit our palates perfectly. It’s beaten so many “better” pours in blinds. To have two glasses in front of us made this video a joy to film. Glad to hear it was a good watch!
Best take on this channel so far "Snickers is the king of candy bars". Also, Erin proved she's a bourbon sommelier in this epidsode!
Didn’t know they had two options of Rare Breed 🤯. Love the comment “my brain is breaking right now.”
Rare Breed Non-chilled filtered is only available at duty free travel shops atm😭
Love these. You both are so fun to watch!
Love this episode and the honesty of how you were feeling! Need some more Rare Breed in my lineup!
Thanks Schim! It’s rare something hits us just right when tasting blind, but it’s always fun when it does happen. Cheers!
Just picked up my first bottle of rare breed, thanks for the hot tip, now I see what all the 'fussin' is about, even got a couple of ncf on the way, cheers you two
Loved this video! I couldn't wait to see y'all's reaction when you found out it was Rare Breed 😁 I know y'all love it! Very fun video 🥃 Cheers y'all and keep up the good work 👍👍
Love this comment, Shane. Because we actively don't try to think about what either pour is, the reaction part of the video is our favorite part as well. Cheers and thanks for watching buddy!
This one was super fun to watch. Your excitement along with too many talking points to even comment on was very entertaining. I think Erin really brought up a wonderful point regarding the elevated scores and the factor of what the head to head actually is. Your grading 2 super high quality pours that you both very much enjoy. You set a base line high score with something that wows you on the first pour, then realize the second pour is just as great or maybe more. You have have to score it accordingly to what you have already set as a baseline. Josh gets the Nostradamus award with his comment @6:39..."They're two sides of the same coin." It was amazing how very accurate that was at the time. That one statement really sums up this whole blind tasting so perfectly.
Thanks so much Russ! We're not sure we've ever had more fun filming a head-to-head and it's good to hear that that shows through. Cheers and thanks so much for watching!
Haha, that was awesome! Very entertaining and fun to watch. I'm flying to Kentucky Monday lol we'll see if I find it!
I always try to keep at least 2 of these on deck in addition to my open bottle. Great video.
Thank you!!! I been looking for a review of the two and you're the first one that reviewed it.
Glad you enjoyed it Michael! There's not a lot of info out there on the NCF Rare Breed and we were so happy to be able to do this head-to-head. Cheers!
@@stuffandwhiskey I just got one from Cozumel duty free!
@@michaelyoussef9332 heck yeah! Congrats!
Rare Breed is such a great whiskey great Friday night pour after a long work week 😄🥃🦃
First, we had the Minnick effect on McKenna, now we have Stuff and Whiskey’s impact on Rare Breed. Bunker now!
We sure hope not! But with cyclical supply due to glass shortage we might just start bunkering anyway. Wild that it’s getting to that these days!
I love Rare Breed. Got my first bottle on your recommendation. If it was more available here I would make it a daily drinker. That and RRSB. I’m just a huge Turkey fan. Great video and a huge shoutout to Josh and Ricky Bobby for being the best hosts on the tube.
A huge Wild Turkey cheers to you for the kind words and awesome screen name that always puts a smile on our faces. 🥃
He said, "Oh your crazy. Go ahead!"🤣
I love Rare Breed, one of my favorites. I need to try the non-chilled Rare Breed.
Was just in Ontario looking for NCF Rare Breed. Several LCBO stores had 750mL bottles of RB that looked the same as in the US. Finally asked a clerk at one if he'd ever heard of RB NCF in liter (or "litre") bottles. Was told it wasn't even on the Ontario liquor control board inventory list. He said people ask for the NCF several times per week.
Excellent video!
Thanks so much for watching Scott!
I love Rare Bread . It's a great go-to sip. I definitely always keep this around.
Enjoyed the video! Love that carco! ;-)
We're all about some unconventional tasting notes here, including the made-up ones like carco. 😂 Thanks so much for tuning in David!
I also like drinking so much Rare Breed that I talk about myself in the third person. Great content. And, THANK YOU for OF 1920 comments. I also find a strange funk that I just don't like.
HOLY STUFF & WHISKEY!
Was drinking the reg RB with you. Will definitely see if I can get the non-filtered for you next time I’m in Bermuda (wife at least will be there this year), will be sure to get it to you if so.
Keep it up! Best reviewers in the ‘verse!
Oh man, Thomas, that would be amazing! Just let us know. Thank you so much for the kind words as well. Cheers to you!
@@stuffandwhiskey sad news. None of that RB in Bermuda. :(
Came here for more affirmation of me thinking this is on my forever list.
Rare Breed should be in everyone's collection.
I just got a bottle of the unchilled filtered today. Can’t wait to do a head to head blind.
Great video keep up the great work.
Great score!
I'm coming to the States to visit family this summer so I'll look forward to the travel based Rare Breed, if I can get it.
Definitely keep your eyes peeled and enjoy your travels Liane!
Killer review...love RB, tastes like a creamsicle in a oak flavored sugar cone! Unfortunately I have never seen the NCF version :(
That’s a fantastic tasting summary for Rare Breed! It’s certainly struck us just like that many times.
As a rare breed lover I have to try that non chill filtered version
Keep your eyes peeled in those duty free airports. It's well worth snagging. Cheers Bill!
Just purchased 2 bottles of rare breed non chill filtered in Canada duty free before returning to Michigan for $35. It’s incredible and my favorite.
Crazy great price! Congrats!
Travel exclusive is 1 liter!!! The regular is 750!!! I bought the traveler for $40 in Punta Cana, Dominican Republic. I think the traveler comes only in 1L
Just bought the 4 year old willet and it is the best rye I have ever tasted.
Was checking out your older videos and this batch is really special. Your banter is entertaining as hell, and I agree with your comments. I blend Wild Turkey products with Elijah Craig and have had great success. Maybe your channel can try blending. (Rare Breed with ECBP B522 & B523). Holy crap they are all delicious. God Bless.
This was a good oldie to check out. We had a ton of fun with it!
I like Forester 1910 too.
Wow breaking records! Matt Porter has talked about being told by the legend himself Fred Minnick, Rare Breed was "just as good or better than BTAC". Souds like it's not far off as some would think.
It's funny how things can hit you blind. Fred definitely had some influence in us entering Rare Breed vs. George T Stagg into our blind sample pool. It came up early on the channel at ruclips.net/video/gmEgEGdrHUQ/видео.html
Wish we still had some of that bottle of Stagg left. We'd enter it again to see if we feel the same way or not.
Always there for another Rare Breed affirmation! On the historicity of Erin’s 6 thumbs, did you shoot this before the three faves topical video from first of the month? Cuz I remember being shocked then that Erin gave the Stellum rye 6 thumbs (as she sometimes reminds me of my own like Olympics skating judging bias of saving those high scores for that bottle around the corner), as it inspired me to supplement my Stellum rye pick with a delicious bottle of the base rye. It wasn’t a head to head, though.
This one was shot about an hour after the OF1920/Rare Breed head-to-head. It’s funny how a pour can hit *just right* sometimes.
It's always been weird to me that the rare breed bourbon is chill filtered in rhe us and yet the rare breed rye is non-chill filtered in the US
I don't understand the concept of a "travel only" version, but now I'm wanting to fly around the country aimlessly searching! LOL!
We’re with you! Oh how we wish this one was on shelves.
It means that the bottle isnt available in america and its sold in duty free shops
I believe you have to travel internationally to get this. I’ve considered leaving the country just to shop for bourbon at duty free shops. 😂
@@aprilbrown8081 that is dedication to the craft!!!
That was great!
Thanks Michael! Maybe the most fun we’ve had on a head-to-head yet. Thanks for watching!
Snickers IS the king of candy bars. I poured some Rare Breed while I watched this. Can’t go wrong with that.
THANK YOU April! Snickers all day every day (well, not literally, but you know what I mean). Cheers!
It’s $30 American at every duty free shop in Canada.
compared to the previous RB tasting. It would be interesting to see the same bottle in the blind tasting.
If memory serves, this was the same bottle of standard Rare Breed in quite a few of the blind tastings previously aired, as we put it into several matchups--which is a testament to how the same bottle can hit you differently on different days. We always try to put bottles into at least 2-3 matchups to highlight this because it's always interesting to us to see that variation in scoring across different days.
I don’t know if anyone mentioned this already, but the uncut/unfiltered is Duty Free only. You have to be traveling outside the US to obtain it. My sister saw it at the Miami Duty Free, but she couldn’t buy it b/c she wasn’t flying international.
My cousin lives in London & I asked her to look for it when she laid over in Dublin. Unfortunately, they didn’t have it & the clerk told her that a lot of people will buy American Whiskey/Bourbon at the international Duty Frees & try to flip them because they are highly sought after in other countries.
Wild Turkey has a 13 year old line called Father & Son that is also Duty Free only. Not really great & for some reason the proof it down to I think around 87 proof. You can taste the age/wood/oak. But taste is thin, doesn’t finish on the palette well at all.
Duty free was the wording we were looking for but couldn't find during the recording. Great info Mike! We've heard about the 13 year Father & Son as well but suspected it would likely not be something of much interest to us due to the age and proof as you mentioned. Low proof and over-oaked isn't something we tend to enjoy all that much. Thanks for the helpful and informative comment!
I love Rare Breed so much. It's in my daily drinker favorites rotation! Also, OF 1920, JDSBBP, and SWUcUf.
UCUF is harder to come by here but all the rest are gems that the bourbon market is lucky to have! Here’s to hoping they always stay relatively available.
It is available in Japan...But based on your description JMCB may be a better buy due to availability (not price though=(
FYI found some in duty free shop in Cozumel, Mexico.
OH SNAP!!! Sounds like we need to go to Cozumel, or find a "mule" of a different kind coming back from Mexico. 😂
@@stuffandwhiskey I will be going back in July. If bring more I will let you know if you're interested. Bourbon & bones knows me personally. If you want a trusted source. But I will let you know.
This episode brought to you by the Russell Family lol
We’re still waiting in our cases of Rare Breed. Come on Jimmy and Eddie!
Can you do rare breed vs 1910
Did anybody find any NCF in airports abroad yet? Ill be checking Cancun on the way back home in feb🤞
We hear about folks finding it from time to time for sure. Most recently, in Atlanta.
Just got back from cancun yesterday...sadly no RB NCF so I grabbed two JD bib 1L bottles
What does “travel exclusive” mean? You can only get it in the duty free shops in the airport?
Unfortunately that's correct, Bill. Wish it were more available!
Rare Breed has completely disappeared here in Arizona. No place has it or has had it for a while (couple of months I think). Maybe they were letting old stock sell and they'll re-release with unfiltered? Here's hoping so.
The glass shortage is hitting Turkey hard unfortunately. Supply comes in waves in our market and seems to alternate between the rye and bourbon.
Non chill filtered Rare Breed is currently only available in Duty Free shops. Will have to rely on some connections... Definitely will search out. I am a Rare Breed addict ! 😂
We’re about ready to book a flight just to go buy a bunch. 😂
Looking for a old Forester 100 vs wild turkey 101 comparison
Great suggestion! We definitely need to put that in our blind head-to-head pool.
I think OF 100 has become my daily but I have to try OGD 114 first
@@lionelg4648 OGD 114 is great if you like peanuts, otherwise might want to give it a pass. I don't like it at all but then again, I'm an OF100 and Ardbeg drinker so it's way outside of my preferred taste palate.
Being unfiltered will mean it's more oily and will cling to your pallet more. I wonder since you drank the unfiltered version first if it boosted the second glass flavor for you. Also, I didn't even realize non-chill filtered was a thing for rare breed. And now that I know and I can't get it in the U.S. I really want it. THANKS. ;)
Very solid point. Perhaps that could’ve happened on first impressions, but palates were rested and cleared after first impressions and we started with Glass Two first afterwards on our official scoring. We always try to give each glass a fair shake by eliminating as much influence as possible.
I didn’t read all the comments but it seems a good rule and my experience is non-chill filtered is better. Have you all experienced that as well or is it just the ones I’ve compared and if so why do companies chill filter? I’m fairly new to whiskey. Great channel!
Personally speaking we always like to see non-chill filtered, but it’s hard to say it makes a huge difference as there as so few products on the market that are available as chill and non-chill filtered for comparison purposes. Chill filtering removes the cloudiness that happens in a pour over ice (or of the bottle gets really cold), but it also removes some a little texture and flavor from the end product (at least in theory). Given the choice, we’d wish everything was non-chill filtered.
The traveler exclusive is 🔥. I picked up a bottle 40$ for a liter!!! It took me a few duty frees to find one and literally tucked away behind some other whiskeys there it was. I Blinded it with my regular bottle and just by smelling them I knew which was which. I also knew by the palate and finish which was which. To me the NCF version has more vanilla which I prefer. The regular is a little spicier and the oaky finish is a little more drying. I give the NCF about a 9.5 and the regular seems to fluctuate for me between 8 and 9.5 depending on where my palate is. Sometimes I really really love the extra spiciness lol
What airport?
Yeah what airport?
@@DanielHenry5 I think it was in the Punta Cana airport in the Dominican Republic. It was that trip but I can’t remember which airport I found it cuz we stopped in Atlanta as well. Pretty sure it was Punta Cana in one of the smaller shops by our gate before we left.
@@JR.Dugger00 I think it was in the Punta Cana airport in the Dominican Republic. It was that trip but I can’t remember which airport I found it cuz we stopped in Atlanta as well. Pretty sure it was Punta Cana in one of the smaller shops by our gate before we left.
Saw some of these on my way back in Singapore airport
After having both, what is the most you would pay for the rare breed non-chill filtered? And by the way, congrats on the 14k subs!👊
Thanks so much and great question! Considering the NCF is 1L rather than regular 750mL Rare Breed, and we’d pay up to $60 for regular Rare Breed, it stands to reason that $80 would be the equivalent price for 1L. That said, we could see stretching up to $100 for the NCF bottle. We’d really love to not go over that if at all possible though.
@@stuffandwhiskey great info to follow. I appreciate it. I’ve been looking for that bottle and see it online from time to time but it’s $200 plus. Doesn’t seem worth that!
Legit saw this in Heathrow 4 days ago… 😑 I wish I would have seen this before then.
Ah man, that’s a bummer!
WHISKEY CHEERS 😎😎😎😎
Turkey cheers, Jay!
Just bought a new bottle of Rare Breed this past week with a 01/2022 bottle code on it and it seems like the profile shifted. Taste completely different from my last bottle with a strong wet hay note that I can’t get past. Anybody else experienced this?
Wet hay sounds like it may be a corked bottle, which does happen sometimes. We actually just had it happen on a recent batch of Wild Turkey 101 which was our first time trying the new bottling. Thought the new batches had gone south, but we bought a different 101 from another store and it's delicious.
Thanks for the response, love the channel! Yeah I figured something like that was going on. I’ll have to grab another bottle and compare them, thanks again!
Ok I’m officially jealous. No chill filter Rare Breed. The hunt is on.
Hunt team, assemble! Let’s go find us some Turkey!
Always try London Heathrow and Frankfurt airports.
I live right near Canada in the N.E. US and Rare Breed 1L NCF travel exclusive is my go to sipper.. I literaly go thru a litre a week of NFC Rare Breed. Message me if you still need help finding a bottle of that (and the Fancy grey/black Box it comes in lol)
Oh man, Steven! We're always in the market for NCF Rare Breed! Please shoot us an email at the address in the video description if you could. We'd love to talk!
Sounds like Non chill may taste something like Joseph Magnus Cigar Blend or something and regular is a lighter taste
The non-chill filtered has the same notes as the standard Rare Breed overall but certain notes are amped up. JMCB with all the finishing is likely a different animal but we can’t say as we’ve never had one.
@@stuffandwhiskey JMCB has similar notes of caramel but is darker which is why I thought maybe you could comment but yes would be interesting if you end up blinding those two some day=)
So we have to go thru Airport Security to get the travel exclusive????? I only fly once a year , That Won't Happen unless the stars are all alined....
There are some websites out there that you can find it on as well, but the shipping fees can be pretty high. It's really only a must-buy over the standard release for the true Rare Breed superfans out there (like us).
Erin how do you give two thumbs on nose, two on flavor and then just one experience?
Great question! For us, experience includes a lot of things like mouthfeel, body, complexity, and finish. The “lightness” in comparison was the reason for that specific score.
@@stuffandwhiskey thank for the answer! Love the channel ☺️
@@itsjustashow sure thing. Thanks so much for watching!
Yeah flavor is entirely subjective. It's funny my brother absolutely loves this stuff but I prefer the 1920 myself
1920 and Rare Breed are definitely two of the best big value products on the market along with 1792 Full Proof and single barrels from Knob Creek and Jack Daniel’s. Between those five products everyone that enjoys proof should be able to find something (or several things) they love, and for that we’re all lucky. Cheers and thanks for watching Shwams!
I hate to say it but I have a 1L bottle of the TE Rare Breed sitting sealed on my bar. Just waiting for a special time to crack it.
Heck yeah Rick! Congrats!
Finish it, and get another bottle chief
This seems to indicate a flaw in your scoring system. Love Rare Breed but would be willing to pay a little more for a LITER of non-chill filtered Rare Breed. Seems to me this is the more desirable bottle and should score higher. I will def look for this in duty free stores every chance I get.
Love this comment, Ferd! Can you be a bit more specific on where you think the flaw is? Are you saying you feel as though the NCF Rare Breed should score a higher Real World Score over the standard Rare Breed based on it being a more desirable bottle? Or is there a different specific category you think the NCF Rare Breed should rate higher in compared to the standard offering?
Obviously anything based on taste and opinions is highly subjective, but we always appreciate thinking about our scoring *and* ensuring that we're being as accurate and consistent as possible for the viewers that invest their time in watching. Would love to unpack this comment and continue this discussion!
I say everything with confidence! People will believe anything you say confidently lol.
I'm got a possible source for the travel 1L NCF... Still vetting if it's legit. I'll hit you up if it seems to be legit
Good looking out Ben. This is definitely a bottle we’ll hunt repeatedly. Rare Breed is our jam.
Love your guys videos, BUT at this point just call it the RARE BREAD Channel!!!!
If one is 1L and the other one is 750ML and same price, isn't the bigger bottle a better value?
Good question. Prices can vary a bit on both, and the travel exclusive is often priced a little higher (from what else be gathered) due to the extra volume. $40-60 isn’t an uncommon range to see so we just labeled them at $50 in our sample key.
@@stuffandwhiskey I thought you said that both were $50.
@@DileepB check the comment above for details. Market prices are always going to vary a bit depending on region, distribution, and any store pricing differences. $50 is our average market price here.
Neither are easily available in my market
Regular Rare Breed should be back in steady supply once these glass shortage issues are solved. Until then it’s pretty cyclical in most areas.
Non chill filtered rare breed? How did I not know this was a thing? Maybe I should just get over my thing against planes.
To me the rare breed drinks easier than the 101.
Agreed. Despite the higher proof, the extra age really helps a lot to round things out.
Honest question . I understand a pour can hit you differently on any given day . Especially when drinking blind. However, you guys do your consumer score after you know what the bottle is . So how does RB get one thumbs up one day, and another day, RB gets two thumbs up . In my mind , your consumer score should stay consistent, considering it’s only given after you know what you are drinking .
Great question! For us, the consumer rating is all about whether we'd actually spend our own money to buy a product again or not, and that's largely based on 1) how we liked the pour blind, and 2) how we feel about the value when weighed against the blind tasting after finding out how much a product costs. How a pour hits us blind in any particular tasting is a big part of that equation, and that can obviously vary day to day. Our experience non-blind with a bottle does come into play a bit as well *if* it's a product we find ourselves reaching for quite often outside of filming. Hopefully that helps clarify any consumer scoring "drift" between two tastings or over time. If not, definitely don't hesitate to follow-up for more clarification.
We're always thinking about questions like this when it comes to how we rate things, and we're always trying to be as consistent as possible with what is ultimately a highly subjective scoring system (as any scoring system based on taste is) so as to provide the best feedback possible for anybody watching. Of all our categories, the consumer score is the one we take most seriously as it's the one we feel is most helpful for the viewers. In our eyes it's fine to say we really enjoy a pour, but spending our own hard-earned money on it is the ultimate endorsement. Thanks for the thought-provoking question this morning!
@@stuffandwhiskey No problem and Thanks for that insightful explanation of the thought process ! Cheers !
Regular rare breed sounds more classic turkey. Theres no better $45 bottle
The undisputed value king in our book.
Yes and stop talking about it, I don’t need another Eagle Rare to happen 🤣😂
@@coreyallert1482 eagle rare taters dont want rare breed cause it isnt smooth, plus half of america associates turkey with throwing up in a corn field. We should be alright at least for now.
You could just rename the channel “The Turkey Turds”
Turds and all Turd-related content may well be the intellectual property of David and Kira over at @The Whiskey Channel Dotcom! buuuuuut you're not wrong--we're definitely a couple of Turkey Turds.😂
How can you give a product just OK when it's not available for nearly everyone? Should definitely be thumbs down, no question. If you have to have a bottle sent to you and 98% of people or without a hookup don't have access it's thumbs down! You all do this with alot of stuff. Plus I'm guessing he knew what it was, so not really blind, he poured the match ups so he knew this one after tasting them both!
Fair point on availability, but the value and quality is so high in our eyes that it bumped it up. We can agree to disagree if you don’t see it that way though.
On knowing what the matchup is, that’s a firm negative. We’ve got near 100 pours in our blind pool. We could be tasting anything. We’re double blind always, and we also don’t try to think about what the matchups are. We just go with what the glasses give us on any given day.
@@stuffandwhiskey fair point on guessing the match up. but on the availability I think you both need to use thumbs down more often just like you rarely give 2 thumbs up.
@@jesusjones3014 that’s fair and a point we’ll take into heavy consideration as we get ready to remap the way we shoot content. Be on the lookout and we do appreciate you watching as well as commenting with feedback.
@@stuffandwhiskey 👍😜. Keep up the good work you both are a great pair to watch!
Rare breed is absolute trash nobody should buy it (I can get it for 30 please stop talkin about it 😂)
Let's be real. It's basically swill. Not sure why anybody would ever bother buying it (we're with you 100% and need folks to stop clearing the shelves so we can stock up). 😂 Cheers W&W!
@Butterfinger
Pshaw, Kit-Kat.
Butterfingers and Kit Kats are solid but so dang DRY
Unfortunately, besides having been unavailable for quite a while in ordinary liquor stores in Moscow, greedy trade dealers to boutique liquor stores raise the price for this wonderful and luxurious drink of spitit up to 80 bucks!, so i will have to be content with W.T. 101 which i like very much and being far-seeing, I have a 3 bottles of it in my wheelhouse coz it's no longer available too. But then the shelves are bursting with irish whiskeys))) There more irish whiskeys these days on shelves in Moscow than citizens!))))