How to Hack your Retro 51 Rollerball Pen to Write with Fountain Pen Ink
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- Опубликовано: 7 ноя 2018
- One of the most appealing "pro's" of writing with fountain pens is the wide spectrum of fountain pen inks to use in your writing. Rollerball pen refills, although they are fluid, are usually offered in either blue or black ink (boring!). In this video, learn how to hack your Retro 51 REF5P or REF57P rollerball refill so it can write with fountain pen ink! Put some new life into your spent rollerball refills using this handy method of refilling. Tag @goldspotpens on social media and use the #retro51hack to share your results. Big thanks to fellow RUclips pen reviewer PenBoyRoy for sending us this hack.
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Great hack “BIG” Tom! An added tip ... put ink into a shot glass or sample tube and just put your dry ink tube in and leave it to wick up the ink. You can flip it if you want full saturation.
Sure, but I don't have the patience to wait! I want my inky pen "write" now!
This is a great hack as I’ve been dying to use brown ink in my coffee retro 51! I have 12 of these pens and it’s great to know you can use fountain pen ink!
Just what I was looking for to refill an unbranded retro style pen. Thank you!
THANK YOU for this video! Can’t wait to have fun colors in my rollerball!
Thank you. I really like the idea of using my fountain pen ink in my Retro 51.
Thanks so much for posting this very helpful video! I have done this hack on a Schmidt rollerball refill and wanted to do the same to my Retro 51, but had not gotten around to looking up how to do it.
Just filled my Herald Retro with Diamine Moon Dust. Flows beautifully.
Thanks Tom. I always love these "hacks." I've already tried this in a couple of "Flairs," a "Pilot Precise V7 Roller Ball" and a "Hi-Liter" with good success. It's NICE to find new ways to use fountain pen ink and to expand the boring colors that usually come in over the counter pens.
The V7 is a little different since it has an ink chamber rather than a sponge/fiber reservoir. You have to pull the point-feed assembly and then it's just like an eyedropper fill FP. Flair pens are fiber refill just like the Retro.
Neato! Thanks for making such a clear video!
Just watched this because it was linked from an excellent video Tom did on the treatment of brass pens.
3am is the perfect time for brilliant ideas 🤣
There's an easier (if slower) way to do this with fiber-reservoir refills like that if you've used them up first. Just put it point down in a mL of ink in a sample vial and give it a few hours, or a day (whenever the level of ink in the vial stops going down). This also works for partially dried out refills if you use water (but use .25mL or so at a time, stop when the water doesn't absorb or any ink color comes out of the point). This method will not work with Tombow or Pilot V5 type free-ink (FP-like) reservoirs. Cleaning a refill, emptying with a paper towel and refilling, repeat a bunch, would take forever. But, if you actually use your rollerball nearly dry, you can fill with FP ink and use the blue or black color residue. Red in black for a nice red-black, green into the blue for a teal color.
Nice tip, thanks!
Thanks for sharing this hack.
mind. blown.
Just discovered this hack-many thanks! 👍Too bad they don’t sell rollerball ink in small bottles lol
What a great idea. Does PenBoyJoy sleep?? Lol He seems like a pretty energetic guy.
Hardly. LOL.
Awsome
I like the idea of filling rollerballs with fountain pen ink, but I'm a bit weary of doing it with the Retro 51 given its capless design. Anyone have recommendations for capped pens that use the same refill or that can have the same hack applied to their refills?
Can this be done to other refills, like the Schmidt 5888, Monteverde rollerball refill, or Pelikan 338?
What an interesting thing to do and try. I couldn't really tell in the video, but it seems that the sponge has some kind of casing that keeps ink from contacting the metal barrell, is that true?
Right. It's a plastic coating that keeps the sponge from touching everything. Only the ends are exposed.
Help me bro...i used fountain pen ink in pilot v5... But it doesn’t work well..plz hlp me
I am kind of surprised that retro 51 doesnt make their pens fit a converter
Their fountain pens do fit a converter. This is a rollerball pen we're talking about in the video. Totally different.
@@GoldspotPens yeah I know but like the J. Herbin roller ball and I think a couple other brands I think penbbs has a few eyedropped rollerballs that take fountain pen ink
Could you use Speedball brand inks for this? I know the ink used in the video is water based. Would non-water based inks be too viscous for something like this?
We haven't tried it. But, we feel like the water-based dye ink will provide the best flow. India or shellac-based inks might be too thick.
I do this with my Graphic pens
Do you all test how long the ink lasts since it’s not actually capped?
I have a Paris Skyline Tornado that was converted to writing with J. Herbin Poussiere de Lune several months ago and use it every once in a while. Still writes!
Is it safe to fill it with Montblanc Permanent Blue? Will the ink creep through the ball?
Any fountain pen ink will work for this hack.
The refill cartridge price is what has kept me from using this and other rollerball pens. Could you use the same technique for other pens as well?
This particular refill, although it fits the Retro 51 rollerball, does fit other rollerball pens that are compatible with this Schmidt 8126 short capless cartridge. So, any pen that uses this type of cartridge, you could perform the hack in the same manner.
Works fine with a Schmidt 888 used on many others. Better refill too many feel.
Why not just skip the eyedropper and set sponge in ink? Way less mess that way b
The method works with most rollerballs, including disposables like Uni-Ball, as long as they have fiber reservoirs instead of a free-ink (FP-like) system like a Pilot V5. For that type (e.g., Tombow) you have to pull the "feed" out and ED fill. If you can find a way to get the plug out of the back you can either do what's in the video, or just use a syringe to refill a used-up pen by sticking it into the end of the fiber and slowly filling (watch closely in good light, maybe with the point slightly above the back, to see when it's full, then suck a bit of ink back out). The new UniBall Micro pens have a very hard to remove plug, so I usually refill those with the capillary method where you put it point down in a sample vial with a mL or so of ink. If it's not too dried out, it'll suck up the ink. The color won't be pure because of the original ink residue, but I don't mind.
does this work on the Lamy M16 refill?
Not sure. We haven't tried it....yet. :-)
does this work for ballpoint pen refills in the same style?
This method only works for the rollerball style cartridge. The ballpoint refills are filled with paste ink and don't have the same sponge that the rollerball has.
@@GoldspotPens thank you! I had a feeling that that was the case 😊
@@GoldspotPens what about gel cartridges?
Refil companies will be like wtf 😰
"Good! ... G-o-o-o-o-d !!" (emperor Palpatine)
Instead of saturating that sponge, you can just proceed to TRASH IT....and, fill the tube with ink, and walla, it will now hold MORE than if you saturated the sponge, works great!
That'll leak like heck.
Gotta work on those teleprompter skills. Neat hack tho.