The Flash Timeline Explained: How is Thawne Still Alive in the Future?

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  • The Flash Timeline Explained: How is Thawne Still Alive in the Future?
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  • @ChristianProtossDragoon
    @ChristianProtossDragoon  5 лет назад +58

    I want to rectify. Back on the old channel, my video was actually uploaded and published 8 months before IGN's copy-paste video.

    • @QuickNinja-mt8cy
      @QuickNinja-mt8cy 5 лет назад +4

      Reverse Fuhrer can you plz change your name my parents are not wanting me to watch you because if your name of your chanel

    • @jibrael5705
      @jibrael5705 5 лет назад +2

      What happened to your old Chanel?

    • @ChristianProtossDragoon
      @ChristianProtossDragoon  5 лет назад +3

      @@jibrael5705 copystriked by Sony Entertainment

    • @ChristianProtossDragoon
      @ChristianProtossDragoon  5 лет назад +2

      @@QuickNinja-mt8cy lol. Ok.

    • @half_a_potato
      @half_a_potato 2 года назад +1

      @@ChristianProtossDragoon lol

  • @BLKW4RDR3M0N
    @BLKW4RDR3M0N 3 года назад +33

    " ya see, that's the funny thing about time travel. The more ya do it the less the the rules apply to you.”
    - Savitar (future Barry)

  • @callmesam8455
    @callmesam8455 3 года назад +28

    Answer: Thawne is basically Voldemort but more smarter.

  • @kurai913
    @kurai913 4 года назад +129

    Answer: Eobard Thawne is *inevitable*

    • @ChristianProtossDragoon
      @ChristianProtossDragoon  4 года назад +10

      I understood that reference. xD

    • @peachystark
      @peachystark 4 года назад +7

      Answer: the flash “and I’m THE FLASH” *snaps fingers*

    • @zoom8094
      @zoom8094 4 года назад +2

      @@peachystark like for season 10

    • @freed.0065
      @freed.0065 3 года назад +2

      @@peachystark flash goes back in time and survives all the energy instead of dieing like ironman

    • @d_trophe
      @d_trophe 3 года назад

      He is stronger than thanos lol

  • @TruthGamingsInc
    @TruthGamingsInc 5 лет назад +53

    So why didn’t Barry disappear when Eddie killed himself (which made thawne non existent). Thawne made the flash become the flash so if he was non existent why didn’t time just erase itself then

    • @ChristianProtossDragoon
      @ChristianProtossDragoon  5 лет назад +10

      Because it was meant to happen that way.

    • @ChristianProtossDragoon
      @ChristianProtossDragoon  5 лет назад +5

      Yup.

    • @TruthGamingsInc
      @TruthGamingsInc 5 лет назад +4

      KIRA - but Eobard disappears immediately. So why didn’t Barry lol everything eobard did in theory should have been undone. I mean Eddie killed himself so eobard should have never existed which means Barry should have never had powers and his mom would not have died. Idk how thawne disappeared immediately and Barry doesn’t

    • @ChristianProtossDragoon
      @ChristianProtossDragoon  5 лет назад +2

      @KIRA - yup. It happened in comics - they deleted Eobard's memories.

    • @ChristianProtossDragoon
      @ChristianProtossDragoon  5 лет назад

      @KIRA - yup.

  • @daleg5380
    @daleg5380 3 года назад +8

    To be honest, reverse flash is what makes the Flash show exciting. Now that reverse flash is nowhere, the Flash gets boring.. especially the latest seasons. So boring.

  • @An-gg2ne
    @An-gg2ne 4 года назад +34

    07:41 Thawne is not sent into the speedforce by black flash. black flash just killed him. thawne is using the negative speedforce, if he would be kept in the positive speeforce, it would crumble. in the tv show we dont know it yet but the same thing happens to barry (at least in the comics, not in the tv show yet). when blackflash killed thawne, the color of him dissolving - i think thats just a mistake like his shaved beared after he dropped barry off ^^ also just from a logical point of view and aside from the negative - positive speedforce thing; there is no reason why the speedforce would want thawne alive. black flash was hunting his prey because thawne was too fast/often moving to be caught up by - what i like to call - timecurtain. so basically when anomalies getting erased, like thawne season 1 and savitar season 3 etc. so that just shows that the speedforce wanted him dead in legends of tomorrow.
    the reverse flash from season 5 - i think that has another explanation:
    when barry and nora asked thawne for help in the time vault, thawne realizes that his plan doesnt work out. but the most important hint is that he thought barrys daughter would be called dawn. instead its nora. so he realizes that "someone" messed up with the timeline again. the big clue though was that nora told him about cicada. so he creates a time remnant which he sents to the future in 2034. he lets himself getting captured (i mean how did he end up in prison anyway? no one could catch him aside from flash eventually and as flash was not around he must have done it "voluntarily") knowing that the dagger would be used to dampening his powers. we have learned from legends of tomorrow that the black flash can not sense thawne if he doesnt use a speedforce. so basically the prison and the dagger was the ultimate way to keep himself as time remnant safe. but how did he know that he would get out of prison alive? well its no coincidence that he sends his time remnant to 2034. 1. he needed a speedster who was easy to manipulate and as he now knew about nora and also that she came up with ideas like the piece of the savitar suit etc he added 1 and 1 and realized that in the future he and nora would pbly work together. so nora was the goal. 2. it was important that thawne was close to death because only then nora would be stressed and desperate enough to seek for his help as long as he is alive to safe her father - ending up in her making bad decisions. however thawne didnt know about grace-cicada. as grace travelled back in time herself and manipulating the timeline that way. thawne felt the changes that were about to happen in the timeline when he told nora that "something big is coming". so from that point on it wasnt clear what would be happening. all he had, was hope.
    whats interesting though is that im also right about what ive called the timecurtain that fixes things if manipulation happens to timeline. and also that it takes some time for that process. otherwise it wouldnt make sense that the dagger disappeared a second before he would die. if i was wrong the dagger would have disappeared the moment when grace travelled back in time.

    • @ChristianProtossDragoon
      @ChristianProtossDragoon  4 года назад +3

      The Negative Speed Force does not take into account previous seasons.

    • @ChristianProtossDragoon
      @ChristianProtossDragoon  4 года назад +4

      Also, The Speed Force would want Thawne captured, not necessarily "alive".

    • @thefoeofdrip1184
      @thefoeofdrip1184 4 года назад +6

      When Eobard got erased from existence in "Legends of Tomorrow" Season 2, the Speed Force needed Eobard alive so that the Post-Flashpoint timeline doesn't rupture if Eobard wasn't there in that timeline for 15 years.

    • @ChristianProtossDragoon
      @ChristianProtossDragoon  4 года назад +2

      @@thefoeofdrip1184 that works too. I suppose.

    • @barkha8320
      @barkha8320 4 года назад +3

      He is a speedster and this is speed typing 😁

  • @AaronHafeezGFX
    @AaronHafeezGFX 5 лет назад +44

    I liked Reverse Fuhrer wayyy more to be honest xD

    • @ChristianProtossDragoon
      @ChristianProtossDragoon  5 лет назад +1

      To be honest, I consider this an opportunity as well. My old channel used to be filled with, mostly, just DC fans who would never appreciate other content than DC or CW related. Here, I finally have the chance to do many more things(horror, action, ideas, etc)

    • @ChristianProtossDragoon
      @ChristianProtossDragoon  5 лет назад +1

      Now Reverse Fuhrer is back. xD

    • @hejker9782
      @hejker9782 3 года назад +1

      @@ChristianProtossDragoon lmao

    • @ChristianProtossDragoon
      @ChristianProtossDragoon  3 года назад

      @@hejker9782 😁

  • @dimitris1601
    @dimitris1601 5 лет назад +36

    Question how old is thawne now?

    • @ChristianProtossDragoon
      @ChristianProtossDragoon  5 лет назад +5

      45

    • @joseguillermoceballosurrio4563
      @joseguillermoceballosurrio4563 4 года назад +6

      Like 70

    • @ChristianProtossDragoon
      @ChristianProtossDragoon  4 года назад +2

      @@joseguillermoceballosurrio4563 😂🤣

    • @thefoeofdrip1184
      @thefoeofdrip1184 4 года назад +15

      @@joseguillermoceballosurrio4563 Nice guess cuz I'm thinking that he's 65 or 66 right now.
      1. Eobard is born on September 1, 2151.
      2. In the 2180s (I'm guessing 2184), a 32 year-old Eobard time-travels to 2016 to meet the Flash for the first time.
      3. In the Crisis of 2024, a 32 year-old Eobard is there fighting the Flash.
      4. After Eobard and Barry time-travels to March 18, 2000, Eobard is still 32.
      5. On the day the particle accelerator explodes, Eobard is 46.
      6. In "The Flash" Season 1, Eobard is 47.
      7. In the Flashpoint timeline, Eobard is still 32.
      8. In the Post-Flashpoint timeline, Eobard is still 32.
      9. In Crisis on Earth-X, Eobard is 50.
      10. After Crisis on Earth-X, Eobard time-travels to 2034 and he's still 50.
      11. 15 years later, Eobard is imprisoned in Iron Heights and he's 65.

    • @ChristianProtossDragoon
      @ChristianProtossDragoon  4 года назад +2

      @@thefoeofdrip1184 if he was really born then.

  • @brothermusician4191
    @brothermusician4191 3 года назад +15

    See, Thanos...this is the true meaning of being inevitable.

  • @gachatm8726
    @gachatm8726 3 года назад +6

    Eddie is the new William Afton😂

  • @Kankkang6
    @Kankkang6 2 месяца назад +1

    To be frank,everyone tells their own. I seen others channel same topic, but they weren't depth as urs. I get the total thing,thank u bro

  • @kallkidsklan5525
    @kallkidsklan5525 3 года назад +3

    Reverse flash: I am the one thing you can not stop

  • @MinecraftJimmy7951
    @MinecraftJimmy7951 4 года назад +3

    When you were talking about the listening to the sound, I thought it was the cup, because when the drink started floating I heard the screatch of black flash.

  • @CiKrosis
    @CiKrosis 4 года назад +3

    Lol you definitely the first one to upload before IGN because I remember posting a comment trying to debunk your theory but failed.

  • @will6330
    @will6330 4 года назад +2

    Amazing video. Explained so much, thanks!!

  • @animetales3731
    @animetales3731 4 года назад +7

    I stil have few questions ?
    1. Why eobard will spend his time(15 yrs) again in post flashpoint ? Don't you think he won't have speed issue again because barry was still there.....I mean Both Thawne and Barry went to 2000 again to kill Nora.Shouldn't Thawne has his speed back due to post flash still there? It looks like thawne was Dumber/Drunked to figure this out.
    2.In the legend he says " I think my ascendant killed himself to erase my very existent" .Which mean Thawne didn't knew about Eddie death ? Give me a Break........
    I hope I will get my answer soon

    • @ChristianProtossDragoon
      @ChristianProtossDragoon  4 года назад

      1. He will spend 15 years to make sure Barry re-does S2 which prompts Barry to create and have him reverse Flashpoint.

    • @ChristianProtossDragoon
      @ChristianProtossDragoon  4 года назад

      2. Thawne's speed works on tachyons. Somehow he must have acquired or created tachyon devices. S1 tachyon device was just a prototype.

    • @ChristianProtossDragoon
      @ChristianProtossDragoon  4 года назад

      3. He knew about Eddie's death. And he never said: "I think my ancestor killed himself."

    • @animetales3731
      @animetales3731 4 года назад

      @@ChristianProtossDragoon well RF speed is directly prop. To Fash speed.In S1 techyon enhancement was to make him faster. Since techyon onlly go backword in time hence RF wasn't fast enough to create time portal. Thats why RF needed flash to be faster to make porta otherwise he had left the moment he creates barry flash.

    • @animetales3731
      @animetales3731 4 года назад

      @@ChristianProtossDragoon in video He says.I think.... Ok.I wonder why he was fine doing everything( his past had done) till season 1 finale.Didnt he care only himself ?

  • @nightlock6066
    @nightlock6066 3 года назад +1

    Thawne: I am...inevitable

  • @lberlim88
    @lberlim88 Год назад +1

    👏👏👏 very good video, i was thinking about how the hell was he alive but after this video i understood his timeline, thx

  • @BrokenNeuron
    @BrokenNeuron 3 года назад +1

    Still trying to figure out how someone can exist when their great great grandfather killed themselves before having kids.

    • @ChristianProtossDragoon
      @ChristianProtossDragoon  3 года назад

      Timey wimey stuff.

    • @gamer-fd1mk
      @gamer-fd1mk 5 месяцев назад

      People asume that time is a strict progression but actually from a non linear non subjective point of view is more like a big ball of wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff

  • @henryfilmt3586
    @henryfilmt3586 4 года назад +3

    You have forgotten that Eobard killing Harrison Wells

  • @thebatman7347
    @thebatman7347 Год назад +1

    I think the answer is, if there is a flash there will always be a reverse flash. If flash never exists then thawne would never exist

  • @Artisan1979
    @Artisan1979 Год назад +1

    The reverse flash is like a cockroach. Just when you think you've gotten rid of him, up he pops again

  • @malcolmpace6252
    @malcolmpace6252 3 года назад +1

    He’s alive because 1. He’s a walking paradox and 2. He taught himself this stuff he’s outsmarted Barry and the speed force

    • @harrambou9468
      @harrambou9468 3 года назад

      So basically he shouldn’t have...
      1. vanished at the end of The Flash S1
      2. been able to time travel anymore

  • @indraneelmenon
    @indraneelmenon 3 года назад +4

    I am still wondering if our Barry will ever go to the past to save himself from thawne ?

  • @user-hn7ly7bn7d
    @user-hn7ly7bn7d 2 года назад +1

    Maybe Thawne is the Schrodingers cat😅

  • @jeffquan4276
    @jeffquan4276 4 года назад +3

    Wait so since Barry made flash point he created an alternate timeline which is what he lived in for a couple of months and then eobard knows his plan fails when he goes to kill his mom so he’s stuck and has an escape root the speed force and when he came out the black flash was chasing him so he tries to get the spear but fails and is erased but he’s back in the speed force again with that tech and is stuck there until the bus Meta bus opens it up then leaves to earth x please tell me if I’m right I think I am plz respond😂👌

  • @gmcgarry80hd
    @gmcgarry80hd 4 года назад +2

    Its the negative speed force keeping him alive keeping him from time line effects like how Nora dies

  • @mysterious_lazersnipez8959
    @mysterious_lazersnipez8959 4 года назад +2

    Did u realise when hes not harry wells reverse flash he sounds weird but when hes harry wells reverse flash he sounds like how he shout do because his voice vibrates like Barry did but when hes not harry wells reverse flash he has 2 voices plus the vibrating voice doesnt sound how it does with harry wells reverse flash

  • @Em1lio7
    @Em1lio7 4 года назад +2

    Omg thanks for info

  • @zachzachplayz6032
    @zachzachplayz6032 3 года назад +1

    This is it. Thawne is from the future and goes back in time killing nora.He created flash 2013 alright,then eddie killed himself so thawne will be erased from existance.So they killed thawne in the present and thawne came back from the past

  • @chronichepatis2422
    @chronichepatis2422 4 года назад +1

    This makes more sense now thank you

  • @LiviTech
    @LiviTech 2 года назад +1

    Would have worked fine until Legends showed him protecting a fixed point last season and then he got killed for real, Thanks Legends for messing up something that made sense

    • @ChristianProtossDragoon
      @ChristianProtossDragoon  2 года назад

      S2?

    • @LiviTech
      @LiviTech 2 года назад +1

      @@ChristianProtossDragoon In legends season 2, he seemed to get offed by Black Flash but latest season of legends shows he was not killed but sent to protect a fixed point...then he died, that is his timeline of events, after taking Barry back to present day, he gets chased by black flash, gets sent to protect a fixed point with no speed force abilities and dies to a evil clone of Sarah so this timeline explanation would have been perfect that version didn't come back

    • @ChristianProtossDragoon
      @ChristianProtossDragoon  2 года назад

      Really? The writing got so dumb? lol

  • @bazziiii123
    @bazziiii123 3 года назад +3

    I don't think thawne was sent to the speed force. I think the negative speed force protected him. Then when Barry got out, thawne escaped the negative speed force and joined the nazis

  • @shannonpollard3964
    @shannonpollard3964 3 года назад +2

    Somebody needs to explain thoroughly how does the negative speed force exist, how does does Eobard Thawne know about it and how does he know to control it, and how can it live separately from the Speed-force and be a part if it at the same time.

  • @rxy4332
    @rxy4332 Год назад +1

    My interpretation of cw thawnes timeline is that he gets trapped in the year 2000, and fast forward to 2015 he gets erased by Eddie Thawne, and is in the negative speedforce and Barry creates flashpoint at the end of s2 and younger Thawne has to correct Barry’s mistake and re kills Nora Allen and created a time remnant to bring Barry back to 2016 while his actual self is re acting his time from 2000-2015. Fast forward to s4, the same Thawne who was erased finally returns from the negative speed force and after the COEX was over he time traveled to 2034 for whatever reason and gets trapped somehow. Then in 2049 he gets Nora Allen to trust him and help him then he is freed and does whatever he does after his encounter with team flash. Then to s6 he looks for a body I guess after COIE but then in s7 he gets his Harrison wells body back, and then in s8 he try’s to create Armageddon but then fails and gets his connection to the negative speedforce severed. But the same time remnant that his younger self created comes back somehow even after being killed by black flash and then killed by a evil Sara lance now has his memories wiped and is now a good Thawne but for that TR storyline he goes to fight the legends and get the spear of destiny but is killed by black flash and then killed by a evil Sara lance and still comes back somehow.

  • @justarandomplayer2569
    @justarandomplayer2569 3 года назад +1

    My favourite Villain in the Dc universe, good thing he cant be killed.

  • @koltonbarr1035
    @koltonbarr1035 3 года назад +1

    If post flashpoint Thawne could run Barry back to 2016 then why he did he go back to the year 2000 after he had already killed Nora (the event which supposedly depleted his speed) why not go back to whatever time he was trying to get back to in S1 since he still had his speed???

  • @10hoop088
    @10hoop088 Год назад +1

    Can you make a video on The strength of Time Wreaths

  • @ninjahattori6841
    @ninjahattori6841 3 года назад +1

    Can Reverse Flash still exists when Flash travels to future that kill a baby Thawne

  • @LucA-lw2bm
    @LucA-lw2bm 4 года назад +1

    He’s alive because he IS the negative speed force so he can’t die

  • @exmeliy0das384
    @exmeliy0das384 4 года назад +2

    When did Barry give information about Eddie's suicide to Eobard in Flashpoint?

  • @TheSpark205
    @TheSpark205 6 месяцев назад +1

    How the hell thawne Guessed to shawed his beard in s3

  • @aswinvj1134
    @aswinvj1134 3 года назад

    He is a living paradox

  • @ricardomoranavila548
    @ricardomoranavila548 4 года назад +2

    Hey, I didn’t understand how he managed to avoid dying after Eddie killed himself. Where did he go after he vanished? or how a tachyon portal would had helped him? If he disappeared in the Speedforce, wouldn’t his disappearance color be orange? And how did he managed to get vanished into the speedforce just after Eddie shot himself?I’m not saying it is wrong, but I just didn’t get that.

    • @ChristianProtossDragoon
      @ChristianProtossDragoon  4 года назад

      We never saw that.

    • @Z-A-C
      @Z-A-C 4 года назад

      We never saw a second outcome for thawne with a tachyon portal, we can only assume unless explained otherwise

    • @dormammusubjective5774
      @dormammusubjective5774 4 года назад

      He died (in this timeline) after Eddie shot himself.. He reappears in season 2 as a time remnant. Since he is from the future, his timeline is different, so that was their first meeting (that wasn't supposed to happen) for him. It disrupted the timeline with Cisco doing his ghost impression so they let him go.

    • @ricardomoranavila548
      @ricardomoranavila548 4 года назад

      Dormammu Subjective I wasn’t talking about that

    • @dormammusubjective5774
      @dormammusubjective5774 4 года назад

      @@ricardomoranavila548 Really? I thought you were asking how the reverse flash avoided dying after Eddie shot himself..

  • @zoom8094
    @zoom8094 4 года назад +1

    Like for season 10

  • @davenierop1540
    @davenierop1540 4 года назад +1

    Love it JUST LOVE IT on how he is still alive because Flashpoint saved him like makes total sense for Barry telling Eobard about his future in Pre Flashpoint which lead to cheating his death and plan to find the Spear of Destiny bring Eddie back to life which failed and as for Black Flash like i thought he erased Eobard but was actually sent to the Speed Force where Barry gets locked up and therefore both of them got released by Team Flash which was plot by Thinker so he released them and then leads to the events of Earth X where he joins the Nazis and uses Wells's face just to hide his identity from the Time Wraiths

    • @ChristianProtossDragoon
      @ChristianProtossDragoon  4 года назад +1

      Yeah, man. Don't forget about Nora and Barry's time travel to the past.

    • @davenierop1540
      @davenierop1540 4 года назад +1

      @@ChristianProtossDragoon Oh yeah for sure but the thing thay still trips me is Eobard being protected from Eddie's death because of a closed loop

    • @ChristianProtossDragoon
      @ChristianProtossDragoon  4 года назад +1

      @@davenierop1540 grandfather paradox. If he kills himself. Then he won't have a reason to. This leads to Eobard being born, etc

    • @davenierop1540
      @davenierop1540 4 года назад +1

      @@ChristianProtossDragoon your explanation is better then Harry's lol he could have said grandfather paradox

    • @ChristianProtossDragoon
      @ChristianProtossDragoon  4 года назад

      @@davenierop1540 Harry's explanation kinda did and did not do that.

  • @mortus6977
    @mortus6977 3 года назад +1

    So it all started when eddie sacraficed himself but i still don't understand his plan and why he time traveled to the past and stuck here.

  • @paan4261
    @paan4261 4 года назад +2

    The reverse Flash always die but also can comeback in life... Maybe the Flash also can during Crisis on Infinite earth

    • @ChristianProtossDragoon
      @ChristianProtossDragoon  4 года назад

      Yup

    • @tranor9831
      @tranor9831 4 года назад +1

      Eobard time traveled too many times and was involved too often, which makes it almost impossible to kill him entirely.
      Barry on the other hand not often.
      Eobard Thawne is a Paradox.

    • @ChristianProtossDragoon
      @ChristianProtossDragoon  4 года назад

      @@tranor9831 not really.

  • @theoneandonly4079
    @theoneandonly4079 3 года назад +1

    lol it wasnt that hard for me to understand the whole timeline, I just peiced it together piece by piece

  • @imSantiiago
    @imSantiiago 3 года назад +1

    Thawne created his own negative speed force, where he doesn’t get affected by the timeline changes. Go see the show after they did the elsewords invasion

  • @charansingh4747
    @charansingh4747 3 года назад

    Bro when Barry tarvels to past does he always present in the past timeline for eg was he and Nora always present in season 2 when zoom took Catlin ? Or when Barry travel to past in season 2 was season 5 Barry always present there ?did Wells got idea to track jeesie from Barry in season 2 ??

  • @Floydandsome
    @Floydandsome 3 года назад +2

    I love how these videos in the past tried to explain this show's logic
    Cause the show currently has no logic at all!

  • @sacsafonesecsmunstar8894
    @sacsafonesecsmunstar8894 3 года назад +1

    Before I watch the video imma guess and say so basically he goes back in time to kill flash then he does it gets defeated and since this took place in the past his past self would see that n be like ok let’s do it different.

  • @jadali9983
    @jadali9983 3 года назад

    Actually i dont' think eobard reenacted season 1 of the flash he simply left and immediately started being chased by the Black flash. I think that simply Killing Nora was enough to set things back to how they were (mostly). We have seen this when savitar was erased wally didn't loose his speed although he lost it when savitar couldn't remember his plans (before infantino street) simply iris surviving infantino street was enough to maintain the past events even though savitar got erased. This is why i don't think he replayed Season1 and besides it's far too uncharacteristic of him to just wait around for a decade when you know the lengths he went to just to break out of jail or to return home. He remember everything thanks to his chronolinguistics in conjonction with gideon which essentially allows him to talk to himself at different points in time and also that he got new memories just like savitar with barry.

    • @ChristianProtossDragoon
      @ChristianProtossDragoon  3 года назад

      That is what actually happened. He confirms it during the Earth X Crisis crossover

  • @Kozeful2134
    @Kozeful2134 5 лет назад +3

    wait how do you know that Eobard thawne renacted all of season 1 , he didn't specify it towards Barry when he went back and killed his mom.

    • @ChristianProtossDragoon
      @ChristianProtossDragoon  5 лет назад +2

      He has memories as Harrison Wells. And he was shaved too. Have you watched the video?

    • @randomt800kiddo2
      @randomt800kiddo2 4 года назад +2

      what fuhrer said, but also in order to keep the timeline intact, he had to become harrison wells, since the original eobard that was there to kill nora, barry from the season 2 finale got erased from existence

    • @ChristianProtossDragoon
      @ChristianProtossDragoon  4 года назад +1

      @@randomt800kiddo2 yup.

    • @ChristianProtossDragoon
      @ChristianProtossDragoon  4 года назад +1

      @@randomt800kiddo2 and I am not like The Fuhrer at all. Some would say, I am The Reverse.

    • @randomt800kiddo2
      @randomt800kiddo2 4 года назад +2

      @@ChristianProtossDragoon you got good memory, i made that comment almost a year ago

  • @Isocentral
    @Isocentral 3 года назад

    Ok so I’ve watched flash years ago watched all the season etc and etc so eobard said that in his era or where he “comes from/the future he wanted to be like Barry and he admired Barry at a point but thawne was born 136 years apart from Barry confirmed in season 1 so my question is HOW THE HELL IS BARRY ALIVE IN THAWNES FUTURE STILL

  • @Rohan-iw3up
    @Rohan-iw3up 3 года назад

    His speed force makes him immune to timeline changes

    • @ChristianProtossDragoon
      @ChristianProtossDragoon  3 года назад

      Not really. Only when he is inside of it. Outside he is vulnerable.

    • @Rohan-iw3up
      @Rohan-iw3up 3 года назад

      @@ChristianProtossDragoon maybe he has many time remnants working for him while he is in his speed force

    • @ChristianProtossDragoon
      @ChristianProtossDragoon  3 года назад

      @@Rohan-iw3up 🙄

    • @Rohan-iw3up
      @Rohan-iw3up 3 года назад

      @@ChristianProtossDragoon lol

  • @nicolasalegria3743
    @nicolasalegria3743 3 года назад +1

    I don't understand the post Flashpoint part so eobard took Barry unshaved but reappeared shaved? How's that did he stop at some point and took him in stand by for 15 years?

    • @ChristianProtossDragoon
      @ChristianProtossDragoon  3 года назад

      From Barry's perspective it all happened in a second..

    • @nicolasalegria3743
      @nicolasalegria3743 3 года назад +1

      @@ChristianProtossDragoon ye i know it took a second for barry but where did eobard go

    • @ChristianProtossDragoon
      @ChristianProtossDragoon  3 года назад

      @@nicolasalegria3743 Idk... Maybe to the future, but Hunter was chasing him. Then we got the LoT plot.

    • @nicolasalegria3743
      @nicolasalegria3743 3 года назад +1

      @@ChristianProtossDragoon still don't understand :(

    • @ChristianProtossDragoon
      @ChristianProtossDragoon  3 года назад

      @@nicolasalegria3743
      Ok, so:
      1. Eobard kills Barry's mom. He lets him outside the house.
      2. He spends 15 years as Wells.
      3. From Barry's perspective: Eobard left him outside the house and came back to 2000 to bring him back to 2016.

  • @Bbbvghy
    @Bbbvghy 4 года назад +2

    not hating but i’m pretty sure this video isn’t accurate because thane only exist after season 3 because of flashpoint and even savitar knew that but i dunno about the part in legends where he disappears i don’t think that’s right either when barry comes out the speed force that’s just a sound

  • @the_savatar
    @the_savatar 3 года назад

    Rule number one Super heroes and their archenemies never die for ever.

  • @reverseflash5226
    @reverseflash5226 3 года назад +1

    I know nobody understood that so this is way easier to understand eobard can't die simple

  • @exmeliy0das384
    @exmeliy0das384 3 года назад +1

    In 5x08 he clearly has the same intentions as Pre FP Eobard, which is wanting to go home. Post FP Eobard wouldn't have speed problems so he wouldn't bother stealing Well's body and all that shit for 15 years because he can go home himself. It's possible Black Flash just sent Thawne back to 2000, and drained his speed and memories.

    • @ChristianProtossDragoon
      @ChristianProtossDragoon  3 года назад

      Without Barry=no Flashpoint=no way to avoid his erasure

    • @exmeliy0das384
      @exmeliy0das384 3 года назад

      @@ChristianProtossDragoon Pre-Flashpoint Barry's actions should be preserved correct?

  • @kolilmd9967
    @kolilmd9967 3 года назад +1

    negative speed force

  • @vfaded1134
    @vfaded1134 4 года назад +2

    i just dont understand why he is Dr Wells instead of Eobard

    • @YaBoiJoosh
      @YaBoiJoosh 3 года назад +2

      Probably because he says in the Earth X crossover that it's handsome. It could just be that

    • @harrambou9468
      @harrambou9468 3 года назад +1

      Bc they couldn’t get Matt Letscher. :P
      Bc let’s be real Tom is a good villain but Matt is the real Eobard

  • @user-xj8lk3jy8i
    @user-xj8lk3jy8i Год назад +1

    Thawne's appearing in Crisis X doesn't make any sense. And writers just explained it with timetravel is weird. S5 Thawne is the one from Crisis X. After of Letscher's Thawne death, timeline should have kept only Crisis Thawne from 2024. That is all.

    • @ChristianProtossDragoon
      @ChristianProtossDragoon  Год назад

      That is true though.

    • @Cosmicmorales
      @Cosmicmorales Год назад

      they basically admitted it's plot armor lmfao.

    • @dazzag371
      @dazzag371 Год назад +1

      This is the face you wore when I became the Flash...
      (trying to process)
      I watched you die.
      DARK FLASH -
      Has that happened yet?
      Time
      travel.
      So confusing.
      Wibbly
      wobbly, timey wimey and all that.
      FLASH
      What are you doing with them?
      DARK FLASH
      Nazis, you mean? Don't judge.
      Some of them are very fine people.

    • @dazzag371
      @dazzag371 Год назад

      @@ChristianProtossDragoon there’s the original script for crisis in earth x

    • @ChristianProtossDragoon
      @ChristianProtossDragoon  Год назад

      ???

  • @fury1779
    @fury1779 3 года назад

    i thought i would never say this timetravel is awesome

  • @viperthespeedster680
    @viperthespeedster680 4 года назад +1

    Reverse Flash vs Savitar
    Who would win, vote in the comments

  • @Whatatwist2009
    @Whatatwist2009 3 года назад

    Flash and the Reverse Flash have messed with time so much the rules don't really apply to them anymore the end lol. That and maybe the negative speed force offers Thawne some protection.

  • @Dummyslvrr
    @Dummyslvrr 3 года назад +2

    Simple Cw Logic

  • @Hei_Darkfire
    @Hei_Darkfire 3 года назад

    Actually, I suspect that the Thawne we see in later seasons that "appeared" with no explanation is probably Thawne's past whereas Season 1 was his present up until he disappeared. The later seasons are the beginning of Thawne's years of fighting the Flash, while Season 1 is the true ending to Thawne's story (or is meant to be). There's a lot of evidence to support it, such as how we see how erasing someone from existence only erases them from the present, it doesn't change the past and those events can still be interacted with even though the nonexistence paradox should erase their existence even in the past. It would also explain that scene where Thawne appeared, and he was a confused as Flash. It also makes sense in how Season 1, Thawne as Harrison Wells says he starts to get attached to Barry, whereas in his past he hated him a lot (and we see that hatred in later seasons where he seems to hate Flash and loses that attachment he had in Season 1).

  • @briandaleske5139
    @briandaleske5139 3 года назад

    WHAT I IMAGINE ABOUT VILLAIN CHARACTER (EOBARD THAWNE) IF HE MIGHT RETURN IN #7 OR #8:
    Now I imagine that (Eobard Thawne) aka (ReverseFlash) might have completely different facial looks to him; That is if he might return someday, and how I imagine the ways he gets his different facial looks.
    For instance I theorize that what remains of him might infect the body of a genetically made male, or I theorize he might inhabit the body of a clone of a dead speedster male that is stored in a secret location.

  • @shannonpollard3964
    @shannonpollard3964 3 года назад +4

    So Thawne was what Savitar aka future Barry Allen was trying for when he used Cisco Ramon to change the Speed-force Bazooka into a key, so that he can exist in every time line.

  • @henryfilmt3586
    @henryfilmt3586 4 года назад +1

    How did you film the serie Flash? Also a short moment, I can't this. Please tell me

  • @DaedaeTYB
    @DaedaeTYB 4 года назад +1

    Yo have u ever wonder where is the current Reverse flash or if there even is one

  • @xxx_gamer9828
    @xxx_gamer9828 3 года назад +1

    Is it me or his voice sounds very weird

  • @knightfallprotocol
    @knightfallprotocol 5 лет назад +8

    Because the flash writers don't know how to make new, interesting villains.

  • @caritoh.8446
    @caritoh.8446 3 года назад

    Thawne didn't die when Eddie killed himself, it was confirmed that he went to the speed force. So....

  • @levivercettii
    @levivercettii 4 года назад

    little does Reverse flash know- eobard thawne, he cant use the speed force without flash. So let’s think of this reverse flash from 2020 he’s not 15yrs ahead cuz if u watch cw once reverse flash kills Nora Allen he got stuck in that time because flash was not in that time and speedsters didn’t exist so that was 2020 reverse flash that doesn’t know about the speed force completely picture it as this. Reverse flash travels back in time kills Nora Allen gets stuck in the past for 15 yrs but that reverse flash was behind his timeline because what is 20 minus 15= 5 he got stuck in 2015 and his timeline was in 2136 boom. It makes sense but he’s born in 2151, in the episode flashpoint reverse flash knew his name but must forgotten his name after flashpoint but he called him flash in the cell that doesn’t matter anyway, flash was made 2020 in the original timeline but eobard had to wait a long time since he was born years later when eobard was young well middle age he studied flash and the speed force once he felt betrayed and learned flash’name he ran back in time and killed Nora so 2151 minus 15 is 2136 again so eobard is way in the future but Reverse flash around his middle age stayed in 2020 so he can restart the reaction of the particle Excelerator

  • @nikhilr_9672
    @nikhilr_9672 3 года назад

    Wait but Thawne is the one who ran Barry to the future after he killed his mom, that wouldn't make sense because he would loose his speed. I'm assuming the speed force just dropped of a time remnant of Eobard with the same memories just depleted speed.

  • @Eyebroooo
    @Eyebroooo 4 года назад +1

    I'm back

  • @aquapankaj6779
    @aquapankaj6779 4 года назад +1

    But they have not said that black flash sent him to speed force

  • @nebiasradebe7680
    @nebiasradebe7680 4 года назад +1

    Reverse-Flash From legends and flash s3 isn’t the one in crisis on earth x it’s a time-remnant that reverse flash made in flash s1 offscreen.

    • @ChristianProtossDragoon
      @ChristianProtossDragoon  4 года назад +1

      Nah. They are. Legiobard re-enacted the s1 events. And we know the rest.

    • @YaBoiJoosh
      @YaBoiJoosh 3 года назад

      Thawne never created time remnants, he only ever made a speed mirage. Also Eobard is a timeline remnant, not to be confused with time remnants

    • @ChristianProtossDragoon
      @ChristianProtossDragoon  3 года назад

      @@YaBoiJoosh Same stuff

    • @YaBoiJoosh
      @YaBoiJoosh 3 года назад

      @@ChristianProtossDragoon It's really not. There's a difference between time remnant and timeline remnant. A time remnant is something that a speedster makes if they time travel to the moment before they left... a timeline remnant is Eobard Thawne... where he came from a timeline that no longer exists

    • @ChristianProtossDragoon
      @ChristianProtossDragoon  3 года назад

      @@YaBoiJoosh Nope. Lol
      Time is just a short version of word timeline. 😂

  • @sujayshanbhag2055
    @sujayshanbhag2055 5 лет назад +1

    Okay so u jus re-posted ur video, n there's nothing new!!??

    • @ChristianProtossDragoon
      @ChristianProtossDragoon  5 лет назад +1

      What is your problem, though? You do realize that my previous channel was blocked, right?

    • @ChristianProtossDragoon
      @ChristianProtossDragoon  5 лет назад

      This is my channel, and I do what I like to. If you don't "like" it, then you are free to leave. lol

  • @danielwelsh8906
    @danielwelsh8906 3 года назад

    What if he gets killed as a baby

  • @tonybarnes1117
    @tonybarnes1117 4 года назад

    Also he is too fast to be erased

  • @flashtvdude8509
    @flashtvdude8509 2 года назад

    your wrong thane came back in legends 2022 there's 2 now

  • @thefamilysmiley6832
    @thefamilysmiley6832 5 лет назад +5

    Can’t be explained it’s just lazy writing that’s all

  • @fizzyfex5770
    @fizzyfex5770 4 года назад +1

    Its a time remnant

  • @siddharthkilaru8140
    @siddharthkilaru8140 5 лет назад +3

    Since you forgot to talk about Thawne being in season 5 of the Flash, I will explain. After Barry let’s Thawne go at the end of Crisis on Earth X, Thawne goes to the future after having enough of Barry. He goes after the point in time when Barry disappears. He tries to live there and do his “thing” but after CCPD acquires Cicada’s dagger, they capture Thawne and put him in prison with the dagger and a timer to kill him. Decades later, when Nora learns about being the daughter of the Flash and encountering Godspeed, She goes to Thawne for help and you know the rest if you watched season 5.

  • @Top_Hat_Man
    @Top_Hat_Man 4 года назад +1

    Isn't The Earth X Reverse Flash From The Timeline That Flash Was Sent To The Past Because Of The Tsunami?

  • @TherealPolar-B
    @TherealPolar-B 4 года назад

    Congratulations how did they steal your idea? Because ppl asked them to make the video? Pfft come on bro freal?

  • @ibbyxrashid4681
    @ibbyxrashid4681 5 лет назад +1

    4th like