Duckfoot carving down a black diamond slope @ Ruka 18.12.2023
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- edit Here's a link to a new edit where the flickering is fixed: • Duckfoot carving down ...
Too bad about the flickering lights. No flicker from 1:30 onwards.
All runs in chronological order. Slope is Pessari jyrkkä (11).
No music, just wind, perfect!
Yeah I actually know of one guy who likes to listen to my vids without watching them when he wants to relax. 😀 Didn't see that happening when I began posting these. Not a big fan of those free soundtracks that everyone uses myself either. Also I'm lazy.
I'm a duckfoot softboot carver too. Just upgraded to a 162W custom x and haven't gotten to use it yet this season! I was tired of booting out on my 162 Aviator. I've got a lot to learn before I can carve blacks at this speed though, nice riding!
Nice flow with the camera. looks great
Smooth riding! 👌 I'm a bit jealous of the quality of snow, we got 50mm of rain and 10o C. Most of our snow is gone! :(
Thanks! Yeah this is one day after a pow day so the snow was great. Surprisingly firm though but this board really bites so no probs there.
Tomorrow should be another pow day but overcast so I'll just go enjoy without a cam. Can't complain. I hope you get good snow soon as well.
Oh, I thought it was only in my country! The amount of snow is underwhelming to say the least. We got around 40cm during a two day period and 12 days since then there is only sun! I hope it will start falling hard soon, but I cannot but notice that it might be a global problem? Are other places also scarce with snow? I hope it's not global warming 🥵😕
Guy doing the grooming always has the best ride of the day!
Or gal!!
Any money run groomer is to be Candide Thovex golf marshal job when he's older lol
😂 Tomorrow I have to hike to that slope to make sure I get to ride it first. 😅 Finnish ski holiday season just started so it will be too crowded once the lifts open. Weather forecast looks too epic to miss the session tomorrow though.
Ohh you hike up early!! nice! Have an epic ride! @@xargo6454
Mad skill! Im still sort of a beginner, hope I can do this one day!
That suit looks awesome!
Thanks! Also very important for safety. Bright colors prevent collisions.
Is it Norrona?
@@timp8711 It's Picture Story Suit. Seems to be discontinued but some stores still have stock: fun-sport-vision.com/en/picture-story-suit-red-06900134.html
Mad skill! Im still sort of a beginner, hope I can do this one day!
Thanks! Here's a great carving instructional video. ruclips.net/video/3dwsI-Ornro/видео.html
Even though it's for directional stance, it's best first learn to carve that way if the goal is to carve deep. You can then go back to duck stance if that's what you prefer.
Really cool🎉❤
Unreal man!!!! 😊
I feel like anything other than Duckfoot is dangerous, I can't stand up after I fall and my back knee feels twisted. Think it was +16 front foot +6 rear foot. I'll only go - or zero on back foot from now on never + ever again.
I know how you feel. I started with posi-posi in the nineties but I instantly liked duck stance more when it became a thing. Now two seasons ago I started to learn posi-posi and felt just like you described. However, at least for me it was worth the pain and I doubt I could have learned to carve like in this vid without learning posi-posi carving technique first. Now that I can ride both styles, it's easier to do a powerful heelside turn with posi-posi stance but duck heelside is now powerful enough. I much prefer duck stance overall but there's no denying that posi-posi is better for carving heelside turns.
Impressive! It's really hard to do that in duck position
Thanks! Yeah, getting the hip rotation right is much easier with posi-posi stance.
Super !!!
That’s amazing
This video should have a million views at least
Good video and carving in soft boots. I am wondering if it would be a more suitable with a rear foot adjusted with a angle oriented to the front of the board and not to the back as it is?
For directional carving, yes. Positive angle for the rear foot makes it much easier to get the hip orientation right for the heelside carve. However, with this style, I can get the hip orientation good enough even with negative rear foot angle so for me there's not much benefit riding with posi-posi stance. I simply feel more comfortable with the duck stance and it's also way more versatile. Still there's no denying about heelside turn being much easier with positive rear foot angle.
@@xargo6454 thanks for your answer! I still ride with hardboots with posi posi angle as you said, my knee is not so flexible to dry your way! Good ride.
@@lionelsimon8567 Yeah it's important not to twist your knee. Actually the way I ride like this with negative rear foot is that I turn the whole leg backwards by opening from the hip. I would surely hurt my knee if I twisted from there. You can see how the back leg is facing backwards from this photo: cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/410080736683622413/1206913424320110633/image.png?ex=65ddbcb7&is=65cb47b7&hm=ca346f7784a4d822ebe465e148736c71ca8a87bd6833944eb314794f01171864&
The problem is that because my leg is facing backwards, I have to put pretty much all my weight on my front leg during the heelside turn so that is stressed a lot (also I need the weight forward to turn aggressively anyways). Back leg kind of just follows the turn and doesn't do much.
When I ride posi-posi with a hardboot setup, my back knee starts to hurt much more than with duck stance but that might be because I don't use canting at the moment. I think I need some inwards canting for my back leg with posi-posi. Also I've ridden way more with duck stance softboots than posi-posi hardboots so my hardboot technique is probably a bit flawed still. Here's pretty recent vid how that looks: ruclips.net/video/7FRjmoafhVI/видео.html
@@xargo6454thanks for all, yes canting is very important in hardboots, hopefully I have it since the biginning, knees a nearly jointed and you can tranfert your weight on your legs very quickly, it's powerful like guys in slalom run, you can easily jump by changing your turn!
Bro kissing the mountain every turn
Nice vid.
Smooth carvery considering what looks like a powder board. Quick hand passing of camera too. I miss the pistes
Thanks! The board is carving board in disguise. It's actually a hardboot carving board design with powder board nose and tail. Great for pow too but I'm too afraid I'd hit a rock or something so I only do really safe off-piste riding with this. More info here: forums.alpinesnowboarder.com/topic/55694-coiler-contra-free-ride-cfr-hybrid-164/
Don't care much about the 1440p or 4k, I want to see this at 60-120 fps! It'd look so smooth.
You have a solid point there! The reason why I go for higher res instead is that high framerates need more light (since the exposure is shorter) and that's something we don't get much in Finland during the winter. Now with spring on the way there might be some days where I might just be able to get away with 100fps footage. Thanks for the idea!
It's up now. I have some older 100 fps footage too but I've been too lazy to do the edits: ruclips.net/video/6WR1-BkF7n4/видео.html
@@xargo6454 Amazing! Look forward to the 100 FPS footage.
nice style. u dont look like ur dragging/scraping into the snow/hill with ur body like a lot of ppl do on deep carves
Thanks! That's the goal. To get as deep as possible while maintaining a clean carve and minimal pressure elsewhere. After this vid I found vinyl gloves that glide well on snow and also glued a vinyl patch to the butt area so it glides better now. Now I can lightly touch the snow without slowing down much.
thats really cool
nice!
this is a black run? omg perfect technique!
Thanks! The first toeside is around 24deg, then it steepens to 27deg and the steepest part where the red slope net is 29deg (there's a cliff behind that =) ).
Nice turns!
how many years for this?
I started snowboarding in the nineties but really upped my game around 5 years ago when I moved near Ruka so I could snowboard around 70 sessions per season. Earlier it was like 0 to 10 sessions per season. Two seasons ago I started to learn to ride hardboots and that really taught me the technique to carve these steeps. So I would say the important bit is the two years of alpine riding. I had solid carving skills prior to that but couldn't do these deep carves. I have always liked duck stance better than positive angles so really happy that I can now carve steeps duck with this strange hybrid technique.
This is how I rode blacks with duck stance before learning to ride alpine gear (this is the same slope): ruclips.net/video/qw1GiNyCbwY/видео.html
Nice turns. My back knee can’t do that with duck foot.
Thanks! Yeah these physique related things are pretty interesting (I mean how it varies from person to person). For me the back knee starts to give me trouble with an alpine stance and with a duck stance, it's the front ankle that gets sore. That's one of the reasons why I like to ride both ways to distribute the load more evenly.
nice!!😎
Just wish it was normal speed
I think you are right. RUclips speed settings are probably enough for slo-mo junkies such as myself. =D Here's some new footage without any slo-mo parts: ruclips.net/video/4vJT4fx4UQ4/видео.html
I didn't know black diamond groomer existed
Yeah there seem to be big differences regionally. Here in Finland most black diamonds are groomed. For me it's strange to see an ungroomed slope (black or otherwise). 😂 Probably has a lot to do with the annual snowfall. It doesn't snow much here but what little snow we get, it tends to stay due to low temps. So there's no need to try to groom steeps after a big dump since those just don't happen. We are lucky if we get 20cm dump.
@@xargo6454 that's very interesting, thanks for sharing! Here in the states, I think groomed runs can only be rated as high as blue no matter how steep it is. I have never seen a groomed black run here.
@@ChrisZ901 Yeah that's what I heard from a previous comment as well. It seems strange to me why they don't make standardized criteria. Wikipedia gives an impression that there would be standards but even here in Finland where the society is pretty rule-based, those slope markings can be strange sometimes. Here's the wiki page: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piste
Just recently my local resort Ruka changed the rating of one red run to black. The end of the run is 27 to 30° steep (depending on how they groom it) so makes sense it's marked as black when 25° is the limit according to that wiki page. Still it was red for a long time. Also according to that page, blues in states only go up to 40% (22°) but it sounds like resorts can mark the slopes as blues anyways. I really don't understand why.
For example a lot of people struggled with the end of that red slope when they thought they have skills to handle intermediate terrain and suddenly they have to ride through that steep end. I think it's much better now when it's marked black. Here's a vid where two first runs are from the end of that former red slope and the third run is from the same slope as in this vid: ruclips.net/video/84lbK06hVeQ/видео.html
@@xargo6454 cool thanks for sharing! will check it out
Which board is that?
It's a custom Coiler CFR 164. More info here: forums.alpinesnowboarder.com/topic/55694-coiler-contra-free-ride-cfr-hybrid-164/
Is this the FIS world cup slope?
Similar pitch but a different slope. This is Pessari jyrkkä (11) while FIS is number 4. I circled 11 in red and 4 in blue here: cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/916689081512128532/1203735788911595610/image.png?ex=65d22d50&is=65bfb850&hm=8f0a5b377d7211ef08386e07f6fff932784886c80dfce26d7039412e458fa163&
FIS is usually in worse shape than this one and there are more people bombing the slope. 11 is much better for this. The end of Kelo (8) is good as well but usually not as well groomed as this one. Next week I'll get to ride Piste Palander which is FIS spec slope but not as steep as this one.
Here's a link to re-edited version with the flickering fixed: ruclips.net/video/1e5JC5e-rBA/видео.html
Nice! What board?
Thanks! The board is custom Coiler CFR. 164 long, 300mm waist and 16m sidecut. More info here: forums.alpinesnowboarder.com/topic/55694-coiler-contra-free-ride-cfr-hybrid-164/
Is this doable if your toe and heel is popping out of the side of your board by maybe 1.5 inches? I'm afraid I will boot out if my board isnt wide enough to completely have my toes and heel inside.
Also struggling with heel carves with a 15/-15 duck stance and cant lean enough to heel carve deep.
I'm afraid the short answer is no.
That said, you can still get your body close to the slope if you bend your knees a lot. That allows you to lower to edge angle (the angle between the slope and the board), which means your boots/bindings don't touch the slope even when your body is slightly touching the slope. That style looks a bit more "busy" though. Another thing you can do is get risers under your bindings. Here's an example where I ride 275mm waist board with risers. Notice how I can't get to the same position as in this vid. ruclips.net/video/_pMVAf2vUcM/видео.html
My technique has also improved after that vid but I'd say the new board makes a bigger difference. 275mm waist vs. 300mm and there's a big difference in sidecut radius too. I ride 21/-21 to limit overhang (even with this 300mm board) but I guess I have pretty flexible hips. I have zero overhang with my current setup but I have still booted out couple of times when I hit a soft spot. Usually the slopes I get to ride are pretty firm though.
If your riding looks similar to that "Carving steeps with duck stance" and you struggle to improve from that, I'm afraid the next step is to go custom built board until board companies deem there's demand for ultrawide carving boards. Also look for boots that have as small as possible footprint. Good choices are for example Salomon Malamute, Vans Infuse and Ride Insano. I hear Burton and Adidas at least also have pretty small footprint but I haven't used them personally so I'm hesitant to recommend them. Salomon Quantum has really low profile heel loop, so do Flow back entry bindings. Many stiff bindings have pretty thick heel loop and that increases the footprint of the boot+binding combo. Also you want to have quite a lot of lateral flex to lean into the nose if you carve deep with duck stance.
You can test your overhang by dropping to your knees to see how low you can go. And start slow so booting out isn't that serious.
Awesome! what board are you on?
Thanks! It's a custom board. Coiler CFR. More info here: forums.alpinesnowboarder.com/topic/55694-coiler-contra-free-ride-cfr-hybrid-164/
well, he can do it
Excellent technique!!! Question - what parts of the body are the most tired after this?
Thanks! Front leg ankle and calf by far. The reason is that I have to press the nose a lot during the heelside carve and use ankle to control the edge pressure during the toeside carve. In this vid the surface was pretty firm so it took a lot of effort to get enough pressure but lately we've had more natural snow and it has been softer and thus it has also been way more relaxing to ride. I don't have any new footage though since it has been pretty cold (-20°C) and overcast so not worth trying to film.
Of course core is also stressed quite a bit but I don't really have to take that into account when trying to recover but the front leg fatique keeps me from doing this every day. 😆I can manage three sessions per week.
@@xargo6454 thanks! Yeah, for such a hard surface probably even board with 9-10 flex would be pressed. I assume your board has lower flex? Maybe about 7, because vibrations were visible. Calf is always working, but ankle is new for me. I voted for a knee :-) because duck stance in such forward ride doesn't seem optimal from biomechanical pov. The knee works essentially in one dimension and with duck angle and forward leaning one of the knees must press from one side. It is very interesting that the most "working" is the ankle in your setup. Had you have any ankle injury in the past, from other sport maybe?
@@jan.kowalski The board is pretty stiff but also really well damped due to a lot of rubber used in the construction. It's hard to give a comparable rating vs. conventional boards because this is a titanal board. You can see what I mean from this vid starring the same guy who made this board: ruclips.net/video/MId1K-yQ7Qg/видео.html
My board isn't the exact same construction but similar. Only Bruce (the guy who made the board) knows the details. I also have two aluminum topsheet Ride Timeless boards (153 and 167). The 153 is way way softer than this Coiler and the Coiler is fair bit stiffer than the 167 Timeless as well. Another stiff freeride board I have that somewhat compares is the Head Kizamu 170. I would say Kizamu is a bit stiffer than the 167 Timeless and a bit softer than the Coiler.
That said there's more to the stiffness than a single number so it's really hard to compare without actually riding the board. I've been thinking about making a flex comparison vid but that would be pretty niche video since there's only one of this Coiler model made in the world. 🤭In any case riding a board that wouldn't flex to the turn shape would be impossible to ride with high edge angles so there needs to be some amount of flex. Otherwise you can't bend the board to form the turn when riding like this. So basically a softer board means tighter turns with this kind of riding.
I haven't had any ankle injuries but I think my riding style is just pretty ankle intensive. I've even tried to ride without highbacks and I can carve pretty deep that way as well so I guess I'm just used to using the ankle a lot. It was that way also with more conventional boards. Also one factor is that I like to ride binding setups that give me enough lateral flex so I can move my weight over the nose. You can see that pretty clearly in the 1:50 part of this vid even though I use Jones Apollo bindings which don't offer as much lateral flex than my usual setup (Salomon Quantum). You can also see from that turn pretty well how it's the hips where I move around a lot so I don't have to stress the knee. Hip rotation is really really important for the heelside turn.
With alpine stance (posi/posi angles over 45deg) the stress shifts to my back leg and then the back leg knee starts to give me trouble. That's one of the reasons why I like to ride both setups so I can alternate. Also a good motivation to learn to ride switch next.
@@xargo6454 thank you so much for your awesome answer and yes, I noticed how perfect you move weight during your ride! It looks as you're using a third virtual leg during carves! Transfer of the center of weight in your style is like a dance.
Duck foot and no switch carving? Why?
Lack of skill (not even kidding 😅). The plan is to learn switch carving next now that I'm pretty happy with the results carving this way.
Next step towards doing the same kind of turns switch: ruclips.net/video/c5aT3jQKEbk/видео.html
Where fo you find the smoothest run ever with no people on it 😅
Yeah, Ruka early season was great this year. Best conditions out of recent 5 years or such. Hitting the slope as soon as it opens on weekdays when others are working helps too. 😇 Now during and after Christmas season it will get more crowded. 😢
Hi there, any board recommendations for a 12us boot looking to get down low on carves? I saw the elevated salmon would do the trick but it’s very expensive and not that versatile
If you mean with duck stance and as low as in this vid, I'm sorry to say that I don't know of any board wide enough for 12us. 🙁 If the goal is to get as low as possible, posi-posi stance is the way to go and here's a great instructional video about that: ruclips.net/video/3dwsI-Ornro/видео.html
Posi-posi allows you to go for steeper bindings angles and that will allow you to carve with zero overhang with a production board.
I haven't ridden them personally but I hear Neversummer makes some great boards in 280mm+ waist width. Aluminum topsheet Ride Timeless 167 is also great (I have that) if you can find one. It's discontinued. Then there is SG Soul 64XT which I haven't ridden but should be great for carving: www.sgsnowboards.com/snowboards/soul/
Those are not cheap though. Niche boards tend to be quite expensive. I-carve sometimes has pretty good deals but you have to ask for prices ( i-carve.com ). Then there is of course an option to go full custom and Donek for example can build you a wide board but even the widest Knapton Twin won't totally get rid of the overhang with duck stance and your foot size.
I only rode the salmon for two runs but it seemed more versatile than the shape suggests. Switch riding will be heavily limited with that non-existent tail.
You might find this resource useful: chairliftrebellion.com/ultrawide
However, for high edge angle carving on a firm surface, you need over 10m sidecut and sadly a lot of production ultrawide offerings have too tight sidecuts. Tight sidecut isn't a big deal on hero snow though. It's the flex of the board that matters more in that case (bending of the board dictates the turn shape more than sidecut radius).
@@xargo6454 I don’t mind riding posi posi , I was going to buy a stranda cheater , what do you think of their boards? It’s only 275mm waist width
@@xviigg I haven't ridden any strandas myself but I've heard good things about their boards. That cheater does look good at least on paper. The only thing I don't like is the pretty tight sidecut radius but that won't be a problem if you are riding relatively soft snow. Also the tight nose sidecut they market "It’s got a blunt nose profile, with a tighter entry radius in the early rise" might result in too tight turn when you really load the nose. Really depends on how you want to ride the board. 1429 effective edge sounds great, easily enough for solid carves. Also rubber dampening sounds good. I really really like boards with a lot of rubber. Would love to try that board.
I would assume that board would do big carves when you pressure the tail and sharp carves when you pressure the nose. Would have to try to be sure though.
I also have big feet (13us), if you have the money i would suggest investing in a custom Donek board. I bought a Donek incline with 295mm waist, i havent booted out yet since i have it. It felt a bit heavy at first but i got used to it and i really like it now.
@@ticopain Yeah Donek makes great boards. I got to try a wide Knapton Twin about a week ago and it felt really nice.
we aint even got enough snow to groom :(
How on earth did you shoot this?! It's breaking my brain.
Switching hands with an insta360 be my guess🧐
@@EricTWWang That would be correct. This was my fourth try I think. I'm getting better at it and I just recorded some new footage today but sadly the black diamond slope gondola here at Levi is closed due to strong winds so more mellow footage this time. Some teasers: cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/214411207849803776/1201524008571645992/image.png?ex=65ca216e&is=65b7ac6e&hm=23b75e08ed1b554b52cb300320303927d0756b074023a4077ac01750a2e8c02e&
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@@xargo6454 awesome! Can't wait to see more! 👍
nice shit. only wind and speed. good steep slope and style. not a pussy ride like ....ton on green wide 10-lane highway
Beautiful, but taking the whole slope like a skier haha. Think it’s mainly skier taught snowboarder vs skater taught snowboarder/self taught. Never really got the whole “beautiful turns” thing. Hear skiers say it a whole lot tho 😂
Yeah gotta be careful when taking the whole slope. The good thing about this slope is that the slope start pretty much where the recording starts so I can easily check if someone is coming from the lift or not. I only ride when there's no-one else preparing to go. If there are people just posing around, I tell them I'm about to take the whole slope so they don't do anything stupid. If it's too crowded for those things to happen, I don't ride like this.
In my opinion the "beautiful turns" thing tends to be an age thing. When people get older they start to appreciate the beauty of the turn more than the quantity. Doesn't matter if it's pow or groomers. I'm happy with a splitboarding trip if I can get just like 3 nice turns per day these days. 😂
I'm self taught mostly btw. but did get a lot of tips from alpine snowboarding community when I learned to ride posi-posi past couple of seasons. Last time I skied was some 30 years ago.
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Coiler CFR 164, more info here: forums.alpinesnowboarder.com/topic/55694-coiler-contra-free-ride-cfr-hybrid-164/
does the butt part of your pants get worn from all the scraping when you're on your heel side?
It does. That's why I glued some marine vinyl there during the holidays. I've now done two sessions and it seems to be working great and it glides much better than the bare fabric. Here's a photo of the mod: cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/916689081512128532/1194260415560024124/image.png?ex=65afb4af&is=659d3faf&hm=b2a14ca633e0c60aea3a6d5600c4567446adb935ada84babb3c18a4c3c6442e6&
I followed the instructions of @RyanKnapton . You can find the vid here: ruclips.net/video/vr0_3g-j7NQ/видео.html
Of course the goal is to have most of the pressure on the board edge so while it looks like the butt is scraping a lot, there's not much pressure there. The durability of the gloves are a much bigger issue but even the gloves don't have much pressure when the carve is done right. I'm still learning the best balance. Back leg knee also gets scraped a bit so I might have to glue some vinyl there as well but I only have red vinyl atm.
@@xargo6454 wow, that's pretty sick, i wonder if you could do a puck mod to the gloves like what longboarders do
@@casperd2100 That's one option I've been thinking about and actually in this vid I use Black Diamond Spark gloves and rollerblade wrist guards on top of those but still fingers seem to be a problem. Those wrist guards are cheap so not a problem buying a bunch of those and replacing when they are too worn but having to buy like 6 pair of snowboarding gloves per season is a bit of a problem for my wallet. 😅 Here's a photo of the glove + wrist guard setup where one of the fingers need some repairs: cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/916689081512128532/1194269967537942639/image.png?ex=65afbd94&is=659d4894&hm=80e6547625e7dae28c5667f2003e1d5bd7e684c9f9760fed8a66461f7d353c55&
I bet your heal side would be stronger if you turned your back foot to +12
Absolutely. That would put me into a bootout territory though (even with this 300mm waist board). I need at least 21deg to have zero overhang and that's with low profile bindings and small footprint boots. +21 for back foot would mean I would have to go +30 or more for my front foot to get enough splay. I tried to ride that way and while heelside was much stronger, I didn't like it overall. I still ride narrower boards with posi/posi stance and I use AT boots for that, works great. Here's an example from the same slope than this: ruclips.net/video/7FRjmoafhVI/видео.html
@@xargo6454 that’s what I’m talking about. I like 12 in the back and 27 front works well for me. Still not carving the way you are.
try a 15 posi front and 20 posi back doing that...
Doable, but why?
your rear duck foot is fighting everything the rest of your body is doing. switch rear to posi and your flow will be more natural and stronger for directional carving.@@xargo6454
@@gallagc1 Yeah posi-posi is absolutely better for strong heelsides and I do ride that way as well. For example here (same slope, much steeper angles though): ruclips.net/video/7FRjmoafhVI/видео.html
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However, if I can ride blacks with duck stance, I rather go for that since it's more comfortable overall and better for bumpy terrain, switch and such.
I was just curious why you recommended steeper angle for the back foot than front? 15 is boot out territory even with this 300mm wide board. I ride this with +21 front, -21 back. That's a lot of negative angle for the back foot but works well for me.
nelonen
Eiku nelonen on FISsi, tää on ykstoista. 😉
This should be marked NSFW
Don't think they groom black diamonds none the less that's some sick ridding! Yikes!
Thanks! Yeah I've been wondering what's the deal with NA resorts not grooming the blacks. Here in Finland there are only handful of ungroomed slopes in general. The one in this vid is groomed daily.
I even checked if the specifications are just so different and yes they kinda are. It seems that in NA, over 40% is black but in Scandinavia the requirement is 47%. This slope is 55% so easily within black slope category. Here's a nice panorama from the top of the slope: cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/410080736683622413/1193958352053620777/image.png?ex=65b7d5dd&is=65a560dd&hm=79ee5db8667805440144ab62b84101b28747895b917bb8fa4f7e5f09c6035d8c&
@@xargo6454 That's absolutely beautiful. Sorry I doubted the "black", it's a big world out there! I carve double positive but not at your level which doesn't even seem possible ducking it! Thanks for your response.
@@captainamerica3493 No worries at all, I totally get it, especially if you are used to ungroomed blacks. If you are interested in getting close to the slope when carving steeps, check the Extreme Carving technique out. Most EC riders ride hardboots and that's also how I learned it but you can carve "pure EC" with softboots as well. Here's some footage from one guy who gave me very helpful tips and here he is riding the steepest groomed slope in Finland. There's short section of 32deg pitch there on the left hand side of the slope (the steepest section is around 50sec mark): ruclips.net/video/1MNPw_YQdso/видео.html
... and here's the #1 tutorial EC guys always refer to: ruclips.net/video/SqY2dSXY_lM/видео.html
I wanted to try if I can develop a duck style from that and it seems to work surprisingly well but it's way easier with double positive stance.
What board is that??
Custom Coiler CFR 164. More info here: forums.alpinesnowboarder.com/topic/55694-coiler-contra-free-ride-cfr-hybrid-164/