“Bio-neural gel packs?” “Yeah, it was a thing Starfleet was trying out. You know, after the Borg cybernetics came to light.” “Why didn’t it go forward?” “We’ll we deemed it better if our ships didn’t get taken out by some mouldy cheese.”
Cutting-edge Starfleet technology that gets taken out by bacteria... You'd think with a starship called Thunder Child, they'd be more familiar with the plot of War of the Worlds.
I love how they took such care to draw the ship accurately, as well as the Mess Hall, Bridge, Shuttlebay, Sickbay, Engineering, and Transporter Room. That's how you show true love for the series.
for those of you that wonder why t'lyn calls VOY outdated. VOY is still outfitted with 2371 tech... they're in 2381. so 10 years is a big tech gap in trek.
That's a bit crazy, the galaxy class was supposed to have a service life of 100 years, with periodic overhauls, even in real life, naval ships tend to serve for 30 years, and sometimes longer due to budget constraints. But hey, its a TV show about a post scarcity society, I'm not cgoing to quibble
The Enterprise-A was active for all of eight years before getting mothballed. Meanwhile the Excelsior-Class got its hundred years usage, and was still actively used in the Dominion War. It's just all kinds of whack I tell you.
"I do enjoy an accurate label." Sentences like that are why T'Lyn is such a great character to me. She can use words like "enjoy" or "pleasing" to remotely sound like a normal person of any other race, unlike most Vulcans that sound like they have the emotional knowledge of a 6-year old and can't answer a simple question like, "How do you feel?"
Because they aren't allowed to. Vulcans actually feel stronger than humans do, and their murderous, hedonistic anarchy nearly wiped them out in the past. They have to suppress them or they relapse. First, I repeat, the first sign of Tuvok realizing that he was slipping control in Voyager was that he goes for the kill on Neelix. Not some yelling, not some sarcastic rant, but a straight up blow to the jugular to kill. Vulcans are straight up more cruel than Cardassians and more savage than Klingons and they know it.
@@HellecticMojoas Tuvok said to that one telepath that wanted to access his darker side, “You don’t understand the true essence of violence. Its darkness. Its POWER!”
Now we have follow-ups on Voyager and its Crew in three of the new shows, two of them actually showing the ship as a museum. Also, by now we know what happened to a majority of the crew, only Harry, B'elanna and Neelix still missing their cameos so far.
@@Grz349Cerritos got repaired and overhauled twice now: between S2 and S3 when they had to remove all the hull platings and between S3 and S4 when they almost got destroyed by the Texas class ships
If I had a nickel for every time Andy Richter voiced an animated sci-fi character with OCD, I'd have two nickels, which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
@@TOFKAS0110, and due to it being out in the delta quadrant for 7 years and being preserved for historical signifigance upon return, it never saw the regular periodic upgrades the rest of the fleet did
@@TOFKAS01 A good chunk of TNG plotlines could arguably be contributed to a new upgrade they were testing or had received. The finale where there were three D's had the oldest ship with equipment they had installed that the new ship didn't have.
I also cannot describe how after hearing "It's Voyager, it got freaky" how long I had to pause the video and get the laughter out. Oh, that is such a brilliantly simple summation.
Wanna hear my idiot convoluted head canon on that? It also explains some of the times Janeway was refusing to listen to sensible advice but things still worked out all right. Remember in the pilot when she was talking with the Caretaker just before he died? I like to think that, as he was dying, he started to see into the future, and tried to warn Janeway about some of the things she was going to encounter. So that's why she'd sometimes put her foot down and do something illogical: she was secretly thinking, "if we do the obviously sensible thing, we'll die; but how do I tell them that I'm basing this on the ramblings of a banjo-playing alien?" With that in mind, one of the Caretaker's warnings was: "Lieutenant Harry Kim will never reach home alive". So Janeway never promoted him.
Much better than the "fanservice" we got in Star Wars Ep 7. Hey, remember the Millennium Falcon? There it is. Remember the Death Star. Yeah we made a new one. Remember Chewbacca? He's here too. Let's all sit and stare. This is an actual Lower Decks episode with its own thing going on. They just happen to be passing through the Voyager gift shop.
It just makes me so happy to know that after Voyager was decommissioned it was treated with respect and not scuttled like other Starfleet ships. Just to know from now on it will be in orbit above earth as long as it exists is just so great.
Starfleet preserving a selection of ships in a fleet museum has actually been established since late TNG (incidentally, Voyager will later be moved out of Earth orbit to said fleet museum).
Starfleet doesn't scuttle ships. Unless preserved in the fleet museum they are sent to the salvage yards to be dismantled for other ships. This because if you scuttle a ship in space you are essential blowing it up which would send debris in every direction.
@@zomfragger I'm not the best versed in nautical terms. I thought "scuttle" was blanket term for what happened to a ship after it was decommissioned. I thought it could mean blowing it up, salvaging it, dumping it into a star, crashing it into a dead or unstable planet, or feeding it to a black hole.
@@sonicguyver7445 No worries. To scuttle a ship means to deliberately sink it. It's close the star trek auto destruct. Scuttling a ship in real life is done for three reasons. To protect a naval ship capture, to sink a ship for artificial reef construction, or create tourist attractions. When a ship is decommissioned it goes into a holding yard which allows for very basic maintenance to be performed. From there the ship can be re-commissioned and return to active service or sold and stricken from the record.
Which is different from how Admiral Janeway's Starfleet treated Voyager before she went back in time. She made it sound like it was hovering or floating a few miles offshore from San Francisco (i.e. Alcatraz).
I think the line "Are you chewing gum?" was a reference to what actually happened on the Voyager set. An extra, posing as some kind of armed guard, was chewing gum while "on duty" pointing a gun at someone. Edit: 1:17 "Are you chewing gum?" and in Voyager: ruclips.net/video/jyD6sZZ-QWs/видео.html
Harry Kim's mannequin is still an ensign. Debate: is this meant to represent the fact that he was an ensign during his time in the Delta Quadrant, or is it meant to reflect the fact that he remains, to this very day, an ensign? Hard to say, but I like to think it's the second one ^_^
They finally solved the long-standing question: what happened to the plant when Tuvok and Neelix were merged, and why wasn't it there when they separated? Answer: The plant wasn't a part of the merger, it was the *cause!*
It kills me they never had Garret Wang make a cameo to give Boimler a pep talk about how even an Ensign can do great things. Of course, now that Boimler is promoted, it would be funnier if Wang made a cameo still an Ensign and Boimler outranks him.
I like the idea of separate from wanting the ship as a museum, all the stuff Voyager went through pretty much burned through the expected service life of the ship's frame and systems in those 7 years that they might as well retire it.
outdated? Didn't the Voyager get outfitted with 24th century tek in the final so it could make it back home? So wouldn't it be more advance then most other star ships, of was their aspects of its design that counter these upgrades?
I'd imagine Federation scientists removed those upgrades and tried to reverse-engineer them. More to the point, the core of the ship is still outdated.
A lot happened in the last 10 years. Voyager missed a lot and sometimes technology jumps forward faster than expected. The first iron haul warships were outdated within a decade of being cutting edge.
Three words: The Dominion War. it was so bad that Starfleet literally had to start kitbashing ships together after they ran out of more refined ship designs and it lit a fire under the Shipyards R&D departments to come up with new technologies to beat the Dominion. (of course, some of those technologies would come back to bite them in the butt via the Borg Frontier Day Invasion of 2401)
@@anthonyrodriguez8788 My theory is that she practices Holmesian style deduction for if she's ever stuck without a tricorder so she's touched, smelled and licked everything in the vulcan science museum and that's when people started thinking of her as a freak.
@@spyrofan9681She was simply preparing for potnetial contengencies aboard the solvang. It was a matter of logic to prepare for eventualities where tricorders would not function.
Voyager was only 7 years old, and it was already decommissioned and considered 'out of date'? Considering they have other in-service vessels that are over 100 years old, the Intrepid class must have been pretty poorly received.
I imagine it had a lot to do with just the symbolic value of the ship. It's not just any Intrepid, it's the ship that survived 7 years in the delta quadrant and brought its crew home through the most harrowing of dangers.
Voyager was also heavily damaged when the Caretaker yanked them across the galaxy and was never fully repaired, even with the Borg upgrades. That it survived at all was a statistical improbability. If anything, it's a testament to the Intrepid class.
Voyager left before the Dominion War. The number of fleet-wide enhancements made during and following that war were extremely substantial. Aside from the obvious offensive and defensive upgrades, there were also new developments in deflector, scanning, communication, energy distribution, computer, and just about every other system. Many of those enhancements Voyager would be incompatible with unless you first rewired substantial portions of the entire ship to modify or bypass the biomechanical components. While other Intrepid class ships could be more easily retrofitted, Voyager specifically was a hodgepodge of various foreign technologies, stopgap workarounds, and non-standard modifications.
He's a Tamarian, their language conveys meaning through cultural allegory rather than defined words. In this case, what he says means "we'll get it there safely". The universal translator accurately translates the words themselves into english, but being he didn't actually _say_ "we'll get it there safely", he alluded to a time someone named Onzak guided creatures called florkas back to their roost, a culturally significant example of getting something to its destination safely, that's what the translator spat out. Edit: spelling
@VeraTheTabbynx Are you seriously telling me, his people are biologically incapable of speaking in anything that isn't a reference to some kind of POEM???
@@stephenbyrne2170 Not biologically incapable, just how they talk. One of the rare cases where the universal translator fails. Kayshon, the individual in question, has been learning Federation Standard but it is very much his second language and regularly slips back into Tamarian, speaking it exclusively when talking to himself or random asides.
@@VeraTheTabbynxbasically it would be like if you or I used Trope names and or examples. AKA constantly quoting movies at eachother. Too many contextual clues andn uance for the universal translater to grab.
Man, you'd think they'd have had more attention to detail - the Janeway mannequin WITHOUT a cup of coffee in her hand? She beat the Borg with that stuff!
Alternate timeline. But we know that it was landed somewhere at the end of the episode and it later ended up in the Fleet Museum where Seven reminisced about the ship with Jack Crusher.
I'm not that versed on star trek lore and haven't fully watched Voyager, only bits and pieces (Doctor and the cook are my favorites) but you sure there isn't a zero missing in that journey duration? Because I can swear I saw generations passin in the few pieces I saw
The official stance is that the timeline split around the end of Voyager - we get a timeline canon to the TV universe, which includes all modern productions, and a separate canon that involves the Pocket Books novel universe. They even published a novel trilogy ("Star Trek: Coda") precisely to canonize this.
In canon, Chakotay went back to the Delta Quadrant in the USS Protostar, an experimental ship with a Protostar Drive: a special kind of warp drive that is powered by a protostar. He ended up falling through time, bad guys from the future hijacked his ship to act as a Trojan Horse for their weapon to destroy Starfleet... it didn't end well for the bad guys. mostly.
Because Voyager made Federation history by being the first Starfleet ship to map a good chunk of the Delta Quadrant, without any Starfleet support for repairs, refitments, and resupply. Others have also stated that while Voyager was in the Delta Quadrant for 7 years, the Dominion War caused ship design and new technology to develop in a hurry (some of those technologies would come back to bite the Federation in the ass with the Borg Frontier Day Invasion of 2401)
That takes place after this. This show is only a couple years after Nemesis. We know Voyager wound up briefly being a museum on Earth before later appearing in the Fleet Museum, this is showing how she got to Earth first. They mention Voyager being sent back into orbit after the brief stay on Earth.
Yeah. Voyager's a museum in Picard. Great moment with Seven reminiscing about the ship. In Prodigy, which takes place a few years after this, Voyager is mentioned to be a museum and Janeway is commanding the new Voyager A instead.
Man the show is such a disappointment. It has none of the original Star Trek quality, and all they tried to do was turn it into some edgy quirky show for teens. What a waste of the star trek license.
Even though it was brand new and is only 7 years old, hat ship should be pretty beat-up by now. Why does everything have to be infantile. Its not funny at all. But sounds like it was written by middle school boys.
... those morons can´t even haul delicate cargo without messing it up. If this would be actual Trek this crew of clowns would have been disbanded and assigned - at best - to garbage scows and scrubbing plasma conduits. Under close supervision, of course, as they´d probably mess that up too. For everything Lower Decks does right they do two things wrong. And no amount of throwing in bits of previous Trek can cover that up. To anyone who considers this to be "better" than Picard Season 2 or anything Discovery remember that you´re cheering on a show that tries to be both serious and a parody yet fails at both, all the while rarely ever letting the Cerritos have their own adventure but always just revisiting stories of old.
Good thing your opinion is just that, an opinion. I personally think Lower Decks is the embodiment of Star Trek, with a little comedy thrown in for good measure. As the saying goes, if you can't laugh at yourself, who can you laugh at? Lower Decks is Star Trek making fun of itself, but it's also evolved into more than that. Shame you can't appreciate it.
@@PDohm123 There´s nothing to appreciate here. I hate it when inconsistency and logic holes are an integral part of the program, as in: in each and every episode from start to finish. Lower Decks should be renamed Illogical Decks.
First, claiming something is "cringe" is extremely cringe, what are you, 11? Second, it's Star Trek, not Shakespeare. TOS was mostly pulp schlock with effects that sometimes made Doctor Who look sophisticated, TNG was pompous utopian nonsense, DS9 was pretty good but very slow, VOY had "Thresholds" and "Macrocosm", and Neelix, ENT was terrible aside from three Trilogies in the last season and had the worst and most insulting final episode of any show I have seen. These are entertainment shows, not sacred texts.
Oh my god this show is 4 seasons in and it can’t get off the dick of the original 5 shows. I swear every episode i see clips of is a reference to something, make up your own shit.
@@UGNAvalon has it ever occurred to you that’s a poor display of the shows quality if it can’t market itself on its own merits? Imagine saying that about any other franchise that started from the ground up. Even still I’ve seen season 1 of this show every other sentence was a reference to something or it was mostly like that to be fair. The fact there’s so many clips and episodes still relying on the old shit 4 seasons in is terrible
@@JakeTylenol Who said that the LD marketing team is doing that intentionally? The RUclips algorithm is a confusing & fickle beast, and ppl are naturally drawn toward callbacks & nostalgia even when they enjoy original content.
USS Voyager would still be in service if it was not such a specially famous ship. The other lesser known ships of the Intrepid class are probably still at work? 😂
Well you also need to consider everything that the ship went through in seven years, all without a single drydock maintenance cycle. It's a miracle it was still spaceworthy after all that time.
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I love the idea that there was literally nothing in the guys entire culture to convey the phrase “the ship was damaged by cheese”
They will after this.
Neelix: His cooking, destructive.
Voyager: their shit; freaky.
@@joethehero2 Neelix with cheese on Voyager
He’s bilingual
@@gildor8866His eyes wide open!
@@gildor8866 Something about this phrase made me laugh
"It's Voyager, Sh*t got freaky"
Basically
And there is no historical analogy upon which he could draw!
*cough* Reptilebabies *cough*
Understatement
@@NardoVogtYou know they’re still out there. A whole new species popping up cause of Voyager. 😅
"It was Voyager. S**t got freaky" is probably the best summary of that series imaginable.
Threshold springs to mind. Gotta wonder what Admiral Paris thought when he read THAT mission report.
the 70s were a wild time
@@andrewshouse9840 "I'm a Granddad,... of Salamandars?"
“Bio-neural gel packs?”
“Yeah, it was a thing Starfleet was trying out. You know, after the Borg cybernetics came to light.”
“Why didn’t it go forward?”
“We’ll we deemed it better if our ships didn’t get taken out by some mouldy cheese.”
"Ok, but that can be prevented with proper air filtration"
"What about the circuit literally hallucinating because of a nebula radiation?"
"Okay, fair."
Cutting-edge Starfleet technology that gets taken out by bacteria...
You'd think with a starship called Thunder Child, they'd be more familiar with the plot of War of the Worlds.
Especially after that thing with the Enterprise-E.
@@PerryWhyte Not Worfs fault!
I love how they took such care to draw the ship accurately, as well as the Mess Hall, Bridge, Shuttlebay, Sickbay, Engineering, and Transporter Room. That's how you show true love for the series.
Just the establishing shot with all the greeblies and doodads clearly defined. Labor of love indeed.
for those of you that wonder why t'lyn calls VOY outdated.
VOY is still outfitted with 2371 tech...
they're in 2381.
so 10 years is a big tech gap in trek.
with all advancments that happend during voyager and the dominion war
That's a bit crazy, the galaxy class was supposed to have a service life of 100 years, with periodic overhauls, even in real life, naval ships tend to serve for 30 years, and sometimes longer due to budget constraints. But hey, its a TV show about a post scarcity society, I'm not cgoing to quibble
@@Bazookatone1 i mean there is exceptions like the battleships or the air forces bombers
The Enterprise-A was active for all of eight years before getting mothballed. Meanwhile the Excelsior-Class got its hundred years usage, and was still actively used in the Dominion War. It's just all kinds of whack I tell you.
@@cia5649 Ah yes! No one ever remembers the fleet of USS B-52's that are probably still in service in Trek.
"I do enjoy an accurate label." Sentences like that are why T'Lyn is such a great character to me. She can use words like "enjoy" or "pleasing" to remotely sound like a normal person of any other race, unlike most Vulcans that sound like they have the emotional knowledge of a 6-year old and can't answer a simple question like, "How do you feel?"
Because they aren't allowed to. Vulcans actually feel stronger than humans do, and their murderous, hedonistic anarchy nearly wiped them out in the past. They have to suppress them or they relapse. First, I repeat, the first sign of Tuvok realizing that he was slipping control in Voyager was that he goes for the kill on Neelix. Not some yelling, not some sarcastic rant, but a straight up blow to the jugular to kill.
Vulcans are straight up more cruel than Cardassians and more savage than Klingons and they know it.
To be fair, Spock was technically only a few weeks into his second life when asked that question.
@@Jokie155plus he’d yet to regain all of his past memories. That’s why he could solve equations and answer logical questions easily.
@@HellecticMojoas Tuvok said to that one telepath that wanted to access his darker side, “You don’t understand the true essence of violence. Its darkness. Its POWER!”
As a Voyager fan, it makes me so happy to see its legacy being treated well.
Everyone got tuvixed in this episode
Now we have follow-ups on Voyager and its Crew in three of the new shows, two of them actually showing the ship as a museum. Also, by now we know what happened to a majority of the crew, only Harry, B'elanna and Neelix still missing their cameos so far.
Vulcans really do seem to be comedy gold.
Straightaliens.
they're a laugh riot
This ship is outdated and smells like Borg 😂😂😂
Wait, how does T'Lyn know how borg smell?
@@zincwing4475 maybe Seven of Nine released a perfume when she got back to the alpha quadrant? “Borg” by Calvin of Nine
So does every Miranda in the fleet at this point.
If voyager is outdated I wonder what the Cerritos would be called?
@@Grz349Cerritos got repaired and overhauled twice now: between S2 and S3 when they had to remove all the hull platings and between S3 and S4 when they almost got destroyed by the Texas class ships
"Enjoy"? T'Lynn, you have lost all control.
If I had a nickel for every time Andy Richter voiced an animated sci-fi character with OCD, I'd have two nickels, which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
what's the other time?
@@MrDalek2150 He voiced the Gatekeeper in "Final Space", another animated sci-fi comedy.
'are they austir?
Lady. they were IMMACULATE. Ther'es even a recreation of his meditation rug and candels.
Austere.
"This ship is outdated and smells like Borg"
Yeah, sounds about right.
Outdated after just 7 years?
@@TOFKAS0110, and due to it being out in the delta quadrant for 7 years and being preserved for historical signifigance upon return, it never saw the regular periodic upgrades the rest of the fleet did
@@TOFKAS01 A good chunk of TNG plotlines could arguably be contributed to a new upgrade they were testing or had received. The finale where there were three D's had the oldest ship with equipment they had installed that the new ship didn't have.
Where’s the coffee? It’s not Voyager without Janeway’s coffee
It's in the nebulae
Janeway took it all with her.
No Coffee left behind under my Command!-Captain Kathrin(Coffee,black)Janway
I just see Janeway look a tthe coffee nebula. Then to her crew.@@HellecticMojo
Then jump cut to her in an air lock as the doors are opening.
Janeway's coffee has to be freshly brewed.
I also cannot describe how after hearing "It's Voyager, it got freaky" how long I had to pause the video and get the laughter out. Oh, that is such a brilliantly simple summation.
T'lyn is so unhinged for a vulcan fr fr
I wonder if she is half Romulun
It's pretty funny that the Voyager-themed episode was the one where most of the gang got promotions.
Poor Harry...
Wanna hear my idiot convoluted head canon on that? It also explains some of the times Janeway was refusing to listen to sensible advice but things still worked out all right. Remember in the pilot when she was talking with the Caretaker just before he died? I like to think that, as he was dying, he started to see into the future, and tried to warn Janeway about some of the things she was going to encounter. So that's why she'd sometimes put her foot down and do something illogical: she was secretly thinking, "if we do the obviously sensible thing, we'll die; but how do I tell them that I'm basing this on the ramblings of a banjo-playing alien?"
With that in mind, one of the Caretaker's warnings was: "Lieutenant Harry Kim will never reach home alive". So Janeway never promoted him.
@@kingbeauregardhonestly, I like this idea lol
This is just NERDGASM and it is BEAUTIFUL! Thank you, Lower Decks!
Much better than the "fanservice" we got in Star Wars Ep 7.
Hey, remember the Millennium Falcon? There it is. Remember the Death Star. Yeah we made a new one. Remember Chewbacca? He's here too. Let's all sit and stare.
This is an actual Lower Decks episode with its own thing going on. They just happen to be passing through the Voyager gift shop.
It just makes me so happy to know that after Voyager was decommissioned it was treated with respect and not scuttled like other Starfleet ships. Just to know from now on it will be in orbit above earth as long as it exists is just so great.
Starfleet preserving a selection of ships in a fleet museum has actually been established since late TNG (incidentally, Voyager will later be moved out of Earth orbit to said fleet museum).
Starfleet doesn't scuttle ships. Unless preserved in the fleet museum they are sent to the salvage yards to be dismantled for other ships. This because if you scuttle a ship in space you are essential blowing it up which would send debris in every direction.
@@zomfragger I'm not the best versed in nautical terms. I thought "scuttle" was blanket term for what happened to a ship after it was decommissioned. I thought it could mean blowing it up, salvaging it, dumping it into a star, crashing it into a dead or unstable planet, or feeding it to a black hole.
@@sonicguyver7445 No worries.
To scuttle a ship means to deliberately sink it. It's close the star trek auto destruct.
Scuttling a ship in real life is done for three reasons. To protect a naval ship capture, to sink a ship for artificial reef construction, or create tourist attractions.
When a ship is decommissioned it goes into a holding yard which allows for very basic maintenance to be performed. From there the ship can be re-commissioned and return to active service or sold and stricken from the record.
Which is different from how Admiral Janeway's Starfleet treated Voyager before she went back in time. She made it sound like it was hovering or floating a few miles offshore from San Francisco (i.e. Alcatraz).
I think the line "Are you chewing gum?" was a reference to what actually happened on the Voyager set.
An extra, posing as some kind of armed guard, was chewing gum while "on duty" pointing a gun at someone.
Edit: 1:17 "Are you chewing gum?"
and in Voyager: ruclips.net/video/jyD6sZZ-QWs/видео.html
Harry Kim's mannequin is still an ensign. Debate: is this meant to represent the fact that he was an ensign during his time in the Delta Quadrant, or is it meant to reflect the fact that he remains, to this very day, an ensign?
Hard to say, but I like to think it's the second one ^_^
Poor. Dumb. Harry.
Janeway's an admiral, it absolutely in the second one.
I’d imagine by this time he’s a lieutenant, but we’ve yet to see him so it’s hard to say.
Kim was Boimler before Boimler existed.
Harry will always be an ensign. Theres a note on his file saying "do not promote its really funny"
Even as a cartoon mannequin, Harry Kim is still being knocked around.
They finally solved the long-standing question: what happened to the plant when Tuvok and Neelix were merged, and why wasn't it there when they separated?
Answer: The plant wasn't a part of the merger, it was the *cause!*
The ship is outdated and smells like borg 😂😂😂
Seven must have forgot her some belongings after they got home
It kills me they never had Garret Wang make a cameo to give Boimler a pep talk about how even an Ensign can do great things. Of course, now that Boimler is promoted, it would be funnier if Wang made a cameo still an Ensign and Boimler outranks him.
I feel disappointed in myself that I recognize each and every one of the dummies...the ones standing in for the Voyager crew, not the Cerritos'
I like the idea of separate from wanting the ship as a museum, all the stuff Voyager went through pretty much burned through the expected service life of the ship's frame and systems in those 7 years that they might as well retire it.
"It's Voyager, s*it got freaky!"
Excellent line!
0:23 I love that little touch there. (The guy smelling the “food”)
outdated? Didn't the Voyager get outfitted with 24th century tek in the final so it could make it back home? So wouldn't it be more advance then most other star ships, of was their aspects of its design that counter these upgrades?
I'd imagine Federation scientists removed those upgrades and tried to reverse-engineer them. More to the point, the core of the ship is still outdated.
All the future tech was quarantined
Slapping an LS in a '75 camaro doesn't update the camaro
A lot happened in the last 10 years. Voyager missed a lot and sometimes technology jumps forward faster than expected. The first iron haul warships were outdated within a decade of being cutting edge.
@@WildNorWesterDidn’t expect to find you here!
"This ship is outdated and smells like Borg!"
HAHAHAHAHAHA
There isn't enough coffee in the galaxy. CAPTAIN Kathryn JANEWAY (The Christopher Pike Medal of Valor) USS Voyager NCC-74656 a starfleet academy
@@MundaneGray sorry m'y Friends i'm french (vostfr/fr)
This showed the connection of the stationed Voyager in the station where star trek D was stationed in Star Trek: Picard
Voyager went from being top notch technology to outdated in less than a decade? How is that even possible?
Three words: The Dominion War. it was so bad that Starfleet literally had to start kitbashing ships together after they ran out of more refined ship designs and it lit a fire under the Shipyards R&D departments to come up with new technologies to beat the Dominion. (of course, some of those technologies would come back to bite them in the butt via the Borg Frontier Day Invasion of 2401)
Look at World War II-er aircraft developed in 1939 compared to 1949.
Cheers to the crewman who emoted that Nelix's cooking smelled bad. But I guess it wasn't that bad, otherwise someone would have replaced him.
Wait how does T'Lyn know what Borg smell like?
Two theories pop into mind.
1. She was on a ship that was attacked by Borg at some point
2. She encountered some Borg on the Holodeck.
@@anthonyrodriguez8788 My theory is that she practices Holmesian style deduction for if she's ever stuck without a tricorder so she's touched, smelled and licked everything in the vulcan science museum and that's when people started thinking of her as a freak.
@@spyrofan9681 this is a most logical deduction.
Their ships are 39 degrees C with 92% humidity, they're wearing leatherish stuff all the time and don't shower. Imagine what that's like.
@@spyrofan9681She was simply preparing for potnetial contengencies aboard the solvang. It was a matter of logic to prepare for eventualities where tricorders would not function.
"That's mission-worn uniform"
Why did he get an upgraded Ensign uniform?
Voyager was only 7 years old, and it was already decommissioned and considered 'out of date'? Considering they have other in-service vessels that are over 100 years old, the Intrepid class must have been pretty poorly received.
I imagine it had a lot to do with just the symbolic value of the ship.
It's not just any Intrepid, it's the ship that survived 7 years in the delta quadrant and brought its crew home through the most harrowing of dangers.
Voyager was also heavily damaged when the Caretaker yanked them across the galaxy and was never fully repaired, even with the Borg upgrades. That it survived at all was a statistical improbability. If anything, it's a testament to the Intrepid class.
Outdated? Lol this was only like 5 years after they got home. Maybe nof the newest but definitely not outdated lol.😂
Voyager left before the Dominion War. The number of fleet-wide enhancements made during and following that war were extremely substantial. Aside from the obvious offensive and defensive upgrades, there were also new developments in deflector, scanning, communication, energy distribution, computer, and just about every other system. Many of those enhancements Voyager would be incompatible with unless you first rewired substantial portions of the entire ship to modify or bypass the biomechanical components. While other Intrepid class ships could be more easily retrofitted, Voyager specifically was a hodgepodge of various foreign technologies, stopgap workarounds, and non-standard modifications.
"Are you chewing gum?" Could be Discovery reference.
0:40 What's he talking about?
He's a Tamarian, their language conveys meaning through cultural allegory rather than defined words. In this case, what he says means "we'll get it there safely". The universal translator accurately translates the words themselves into english, but being he didn't actually _say_ "we'll get it there safely", he alluded to a time someone named Onzak guided creatures called florkas back to their roost, a culturally significant example of getting something to its destination safely, that's what the translator spat out.
Edit: spelling
@VeraTheTabbynx Are you seriously telling me, his people are biologically incapable of speaking in anything that isn't a reference to some kind of POEM???
@@stephenbyrne2170 Not biologically incapable, just how they talk. One of the rare cases where the universal translator fails. Kayshon, the individual in question, has been learning Federation Standard but it is very much his second language and regularly slips back into Tamarian, speaking it exclusively when talking to himself or random asides.
@@VeraTheTabbynxbasically it would be like if you or I used Trope names and or examples. AKA constantly quoting movies at eachother. Too many contextual clues andn uance for the universal translater to grab.
@@singletona082 exactly
Man, you'd think they'd have had more attention to detail - the Janeway mannequin WITHOUT a cup of coffee in her hand? She beat the Borg with that stuff!
Even Hologram Janeway had that too!!!
If the ship was decommissioned, she isn't entitled to the USS prefix
The ship is far from outdated ots what 10 years old at this point? Note cvn 65 enterprise remained in service for about 50 years
I thought Voyager was turned into a museum in San Francisco😊
Alternate timeline. But we know that it was landed somewhere at the end of the episode and it later ended up in the Fleet Museum where Seven reminisced about the ship with Jack Crusher.
Is that mark hamming?
And a dummy of Harry Kim still showing that he never got promoted.....
is that Ethan Philips?
No, that's Andy Richter.
How is the intrepid class outdated when they are still using Excelsior class?
I think it's a new version of that class like how the Titan A/Enterprise G is a Constitution 3 class ship
I'm not that versed on star trek lore and haven't fully watched Voyager, only bits and pieces (Doctor and the cook are my favorites) but you sure there isn't a zero missing in that journey duration?
Because I can swear I saw generations passin in the few pieces I saw
It was supposed to be 70 years, but they found a way home in just 7 instead using Borg technology.
I guess in canon Voyager never made a second trip to the Delta Quadrant with Chakotay as captain. Or was that the Voyager A?
The official stance is that the timeline split around the end of Voyager - we get a timeline canon to the TV universe, which includes all modern productions, and a separate canon that involves the Pocket Books novel universe. They even published a novel trilogy ("Star Trek: Coda") precisely to canonize this.
In canon, Chakotay went back to the Delta Quadrant in the USS Protostar, an experimental ship with a Protostar Drive: a special kind of warp drive that is powered by a protostar. He ended up falling through time, bad guys from the future hijacked his ship to act as a Trojan Horse for their weapon to destroy Starfleet... it didn't end well for the bad guys. mostly.
I never understood why voyager became a museum... its only 7 years old... im mean cmon
Mr. Bomler set corse for. Home
Why would you decommission a ship so young ?
Because Voyager made Federation history by being the first Starfleet ship to map a good chunk of the Delta Quadrant, without any Starfleet support for repairs, refitments, and resupply. Others have also stated that while Voyager was in the Delta Quadrant for 7 years, the Dominion War caused ship design and new technology to develop in a hurry (some of those technologies would come back to bite the Federation in the ass with the Borg Frontier Day Invasion of 2401)
Shaka when the walls fell
Yeah but she isn’t permanently in orbit but at Matalas Prime Fleet Museum. :(
That takes place after this. This show is only a couple years after Nemesis. We know Voyager wound up briefly being a museum on Earth before later appearing in the Fleet Museum, this is showing how she got to Earth first. They mention Voyager being sent back into orbit after the brief stay on Earth.
It's Athan Prime, not Matalas Prime....
Smells like borg 😂
Is this show cannon? To the Trek prime timeline
Yeah. Voyager's a museum in Picard. Great moment with Seven reminiscing about the ship. In Prodigy, which takes place a few years after this, Voyager is mentioned to be a museum and Janeway is commanding the new Voyager A instead.
PS also The Doctor mentions how dysfunctional the Cerritos crew is
Ok. One thing I thought was a bit much was the historian.
Like, come on dude, you don’t need to be such a hardass.
And these God damn kids could stop fucking up for 5 minutes.
Are they _austere_ ?
😂😂😂
Even when Neelix isn't there, his cooking is terrible.
Man the show is such a disappointment. It has none of the original Star Trek quality, and all they tried to do was turn it into some edgy quirky show for teens. What a waste of the star trek license.
Speaking of edgy….
Even though it was brand new and is only 7 years old, hat ship should be pretty beat-up by now. Why does everything have to be infantile. Its not funny at all. But sounds like it was written by middle school boys.
... those morons can´t even haul delicate cargo without messing it up. If this would be actual Trek this crew of clowns would have been disbanded and assigned - at best - to garbage scows and scrubbing plasma conduits. Under close supervision, of course, as they´d probably mess that up too.
For everything Lower Decks does right they do two things wrong. And no amount of throwing in bits of previous Trek can cover that up. To anyone who considers this to be "better" than Picard Season 2 or anything Discovery remember that you´re cheering on a show that tries to be both serious and a parody yet fails at both, all the while rarely ever letting the Cerritos have their own adventure but always just revisiting stories of old.
Good thing your opinion is just that, an opinion. I personally think Lower Decks is the embodiment of Star Trek, with a little comedy thrown in for good measure. As the saying goes, if you can't laugh at yourself, who can you laugh at? Lower Decks is Star Trek making fun of itself, but it's also evolved into more than that. Shame you can't appreciate it.
@@PDohm123 There´s nothing to appreciate here. I hate it when inconsistency and logic holes are an integral part of the program, as in: in each and every episode from start to finish.
Lower Decks should be renamed Illogical Decks.
This is pure cringe appealing to the lowest common denominator
No, it's a fun love letter to the franchise's past.
First, claiming something is "cringe" is extremely cringe, what are you, 11? Second, it's Star Trek, not Shakespeare. TOS was mostly pulp schlock with effects that sometimes made Doctor Who look sophisticated, TNG was pompous utopian nonsense, DS9 was pretty good but very slow, VOY had "Thresholds" and "Macrocosm", and Neelix, ENT was terrible aside from three Trilogies in the last season and had the worst and most insulting final episode of any show I have seen. These are entertainment shows, not sacred texts.
Good thing that this is a free country and no one's forcing you to watch it, right?
Oh my god this show is 4 seasons in and it can’t get off the dick of the original 5 shows. I swear every episode i see clips of is a reference to something, make up your own shit.
Don't watch it then.
@@sodadrinker89 I don’t..but uh…thanks, I guess
Has it ever occurred to you that the clips that feature nostalgia-bait get watched/promoted more than the clips that feature original content? 🤔
@@UGNAvalon has it ever occurred to you that’s a poor display of the shows quality if it can’t market itself on its own merits?
Imagine saying that about any other franchise that started from the ground up.
Even still I’ve seen season 1 of this show every other sentence was a reference to something or it was mostly like that to be fair.
The fact there’s so many clips and episodes still relying on the old shit 4 seasons in is terrible
@@JakeTylenol Who said that the LD marketing team is doing that intentionally? The RUclips algorithm is a confusing & fickle beast, and ppl are naturally drawn toward callbacks & nostalgia even when they enjoy original content.
USS Voyager would still be in service if it was not such a specially famous ship. The other lesser known ships of the Intrepid class are probably still at work? 😂
Well you also need to consider everything that the ship went through in seven years, all without a single drydock maintenance cycle. It's a miracle it was still spaceworthy after all that time.
Voyager isn't permanently placed in orbit around earth, it goes to that museum that we find out about in picard.
correct, she starts out as a museum ON earth (as shown in the Voy finale) and later gets transported to the fleet museum, as seen in picard.
Picard season 3 is set almost 20 years after this.