Do You Watch Porn? You Wouldn't If You Knew This
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- "Thousands of Germans are reported to have been sent letters asking them to pay a fee for porn they are alleged to have streamed illegally online.
Law firm Urmann (U+C) is acting on behalf of Swiss copyright protection firm the Archive, and is asking for one-off payments of 250 euros (£210).
It confirmed to the BBC that the letters have been sent but would not say how many.
A growing number of affected people are claiming to be wrongly accused."* The Young Turks hosts Cenk Uygur and Ana Kasparian break it down.
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This is why I use xHamster. Just porn, no bullshit.
***** get norton
You dont need to watch porn when you can callover a big strong handsome athletic blk guy with a nice body and nice BBC with no strings attached !!
Poison Bison lol
Poison Bison try x vidio much better.
tonedog77 me too. chubby milf the best.
Who knew that porn producers were capable of ethics violations?
Here's the one thing I'm not thinking about when watching porn: copyright law.
It's the new fetish.
Copyright law is the only thing that gets me off anymore
"I'm just a little upset that I didn't get any credit for my use of double-donger"
- Ana Kasparian, 2013
kylecoolio12 Go fuck yourself.
Bongalope MaryJane That's what the double-donger is for. ;)
Lol
I AM SO FUCKED
ikr xD
Michael Jai White can whoop your ass, Kimbo.
Same XD
If I ever got a letter like that, I'd send it back dripping in spunk.
Boompass ik this comment is 4yrs old but right now im feeling like crap coz of a stomach bug but ur comment really made me laugh XD thanks
You may as well add some ass splatter to that
This story really hits home, don't fuck with my porn.
kidbrown2010 The only way porn could kill anyone is if it was so good that some dude ripped off his dick and bled to death.
Hahahaha I WOULD GO TO COURT! Yes I was watching bukakke, grannies gone wild, BBW, 2 girls 1 cup, and start going into detail just to make the court uncomfortable. Fight the power!
This guy gives no f****s
*golf claps*
Teen is the number one search, as it does have a 18+ disclaimer at the bottom of each site. So it's covered.
....I'm ....I'm still going to watch it.
Same...
Saint Jimmy Hm. Would you still if you knew over half are real rape scenarios? The actress is actually blackmailed into performing scenes that they did not consent to.
On top of which porn is the main reason young adult males are taking viagra. So if you're okay with those things, sure, why not.
Saint Jimmy lol true
David Millar By not getting paid, by giving her a bad rap so she can't get jobs, ending her career before it begins, etc.
@@withlove2963 that is not true, and even if it is then its not only the women getting raped but the men actors too would be getting raped in the exact same way. Also a large percentage of porn these days are home made and submitted and uploaded for payment. It would be rare to find a porn video of individuals who just did not want to do it because they were threatned or blackmailed and even if they did a video they didnt prefer to do then they made a career option to do it anyways for advancement and continued work but just because they dont prefer something doesn't make it rape. They choose to which makes it consentual employment.
Black mailing people for the porn they watch, should be considered a crime against humanity. And the perpetrators should be trailed as such.
and this is why you never make a fucking account
Anybody Slightly tempted to go on the site now......................
Already came.
Rich Martin everywhere
Ceres Bane
and on everything!
I am not into it, but I wonder which things I gotta watch. It is like youtube but it is actually with a black background.
No not any more! .
I love how people are sharing the porn sites they visit in the comment section lol.
"RedTube is much like RUclips, where you stream porn content."
Seems about right.
Good thing I avoid Red Tube like the plague.
Copyright infringement is making a profit from someone else work. NOT watching or listening to anything.
So if you downloaded a video game illegally that would be legal since you aren't making a profit from it ? If by watch a video or downloading a song a game or whatever was meant to be sold for profit ,You are breaking the copyrights law .
***** Actually downloading content is the equivalent of buying a stolen TV from the shady guy across the street. You are supporting theft, you are not the thief.
We Deserve Better The problem is if we end Copyright then we destroy ability for people to be able to make enjoyable content because there's no protections. Music industry would die out, which means a lot of the music you probably love would die out.
Someone could get to your next favorite Indie Band before you know of them and rip off their songs, and then you would end up liking that band possibly instead and the poor Indie guys who wrote it don't have any recourse.
T.V. would pretty much die off same with movies. It would create another recession.
Independent artists could have their material ripped off by bigger comic companies. Again no recourse. Most entertainment would most likely go down the shitter.
The big money interests that DO survive would rip off the work of those who are trying. Don't get me started on how hard it would be to find things. People could name songs and CDs to look just like legitimate ones. How would you know which CD is the real CD?
Copyright needs to be modified.
What about someone trying to get published. Their books could just get stolen by the Publishing companies. No real recourse since there is no Copyright.
That's a worse situation than what we have now.
Joe Banana you're actually wrong too.
It has NOTHING to do with making a profit. If I buy a CD and 100 blank cds and I make a hundred copies and I just leave them in mail boxes I am infringing on copyright and breaking the law. No money is being exchanged to me. It is the damage I am doing.
At the absolute most the damages done by me streaming a video are equivalent to the value of the video I streamed no matter how many times I streamed it. Actually I think the best they could do is sue me for 1 months' subscription to a service they are part of because I could then download it legally.
The whole argument is a false argument. They aren't actually trying to make streaming porn illegal they just want to scare people to send them money.
It's for sure all about the money. Most artists do it for the enjoyment of creating. The money's nice, but not the driving force. It's the producers who need to milk every cent out of a contract. Take a book for example, if you read a friends book is that copyright infringement, what about a TV show?
Really Cenk? I'm German and I'm deeply offended!
I was expecting a load of cheesy porn related jokes about germans. That was disapointing.
True, I'm also dissapointed. But hey, at least he told me to eat my vitamines :D
Lawyers trying this in the UK risk being disbarred.
acs law already tried and failed
oh shit...
What kind of relationship aye you in where you're uncomfortable discussing the porn you like with your significant other? talk about vanilla..
Agreed. Every relationship is different, but that is kind of sad. Especially if the couple has been with each other for a long time.
Shouldn't the site itself have legal action taken against them, not the guy who went on the website?
No, public forums for uploading are not responsible. Its kind of like mediafire and how the us govt tried to indict Kim Dotcom a year or two ago, but they couldn't because mediafire isn't responsible for the content.
limereid That's a good point, but YT does take down anything copyright infringing, and if I go on a page that had that copyright infringement, I don't have legal action taken against me.
Saucypants1000 Yeah but RUclips is in partnerships with all the media companies. The recording companies put their music videos on there, and youtube gets millions of page views, and in return people will hear the music and go buy it. They are helping one another out so its more understandable. But I do understand
limereid I really get what your saying, but again if I'm not uploading the video on Redtube, why the fuck am I getting a fine in the mail? I just happen to be the guy who went on the site to rub one out. The site, or the guys who put the video on the site are the only ones that have anything to do with this, not the individual surfing the web for bukaki.
Saucypants1000 They have no legal justification. It's not illegal to download illegal content (to receive) it is only illegal to share or upload the content. So on torrents that's one thing since you are redistributing it, but receiving a distributed copy would be another thing. They can't show that you did any harm to them and the few dollars they could get out of you if you purchased it wouldn't be enough to take you to court.
That is my understanding of the legality. They just want to scare the money out of you.
They can't embarass me, I'll go up in that courtroom and proudly declare what I was watching and smile. No matter what I'm in there for seeing, I've seen WAY more fucked up shit. No one wants to watch sex they could have themselves!
Redtube....neverheard of it. I gotta go.
i live in germany and you guys should know that the case never came through. the german supreme court actually sentenced the law firm to a high money fine which resulted in the bancrupcy of that law firm.
I wish they did that in the USA. Too many frivolous lawsuits take place here!
steffen kalierear -- Thanks for telling us about this, mate. :-)
Just got notice to pay US$250.00 for streaming TYT content. Wasn't me!
Why have I not heard of Red Tube before? Thanks TYT! Lol
WHAT??!!
TrailBlazer65
indeed, WHAT?
old school shit lol
whaat? how?
haha. Perhaps I did know about it years ago. There are several others I would have recognized. Keep in mind that this is not how I get porn. lol.
Godless Glen
"Honey, we have this notice from a law firm that says you've been watching porn about blonde babysitters. That wouldn't have anything to do with that pretty blonde babysitter we hired awhile ago, would it?"
"Of course not, darling. Mere coincidence, I assure you."
Everyone is interested in porn? Just waiting for someone who claims to be asexual to be offended by that.
ahahahh there was one on there last vid saying everyone who watches porn nd masturbates is disgusting. little did she know everyone around her is disgustinh
Watching this video same time RedTube is open. :O, nonono close close now, clear history.
The correct response to a porn copyright troll isn't `wasn't me`, but `fuck you! try me, get slapped.` Though I wonder, does Germany have anti-SLAPP laws? There should be laws against copyright trolls, this sort of thing smacks of blackmail.
Fuck redtube, I go on e621.
Furry stuff might be the best drawn wank material. There's better places for the real deal than Redtube anyway.
Im going to fucking vomit.
xhamster all the way.
Don't know what e621 is, but yeah, RedTube sucks.
singates19 Furry porn website.
i thought everyone used PornHub
***** moviesand (;
you're welcome
LOL HE looks sooo uncomfortable. What? Porn on the internet? What's porn? I don't watch that stuff, I've never heard of redtube lmfao
Red tube sucks anyway, doesn't have the really weird stuff like: Incest, Bestiality, Forced, Lolicon, Vore, Guro, and all that awesome shizit.
But seriously, I dont care who knows what porn I watch id take it to court in heart beat!
Ana: "We called it the Dream Trip.."
Cenk: "...Is, is there a tape of that??"
Not creepy at all, Cenk
The lawyer who is sending out these letters has been convicted of improper/unethical conduct before, and will probably get convicted for this story again (some of the alleged offences where commited on the 20th of December 2013 according to the letters). A website has now discovered that users were automatically redirected to the specified content, and the copyright owners have made no efforts to have the content removed (which they are obliged to do by German law, otherwise claims of infringement are void). They fooled the court to get the IP owner's IDs by claiming they had been filesharing (which obviously is inaccurate if someone is using a stream), and a stupid/clueless judge gave them the desired warrant (this might come to haunt these lawyers as well). It's a total scam, they probably calculated that if they sent out 50.000 warnings and one fifth of people pay out of embarrassment, they'll make 2.5 million euros and then close down their offices.
I'm sorry for you Ana but I'm proud of the porn I watch. I could care less if anybody else knew, even you NSA.
Dogoel I hear ya. No shame here. Also the NSA says thank you. They were looking for some of those clips.
Damn what next you could sue someone for killing you in cod or battlefield
my bad forget i said that...fuck
better get back into single player games!
*****
Yeah if something will happen like that.
game developers will end up dead.
Who uses RedTube anymore?
those german guys...
xhamster is the shit! "P
Not a RedTube user (much better places to get porn) but if you access it via http and not https then they could just be packet sniffing one of the nodes it goes via it to get all the basic user information then spam them with lawsuits. They could also be getting it from your ISP if your ISP has terrible security or was issued with a court order (although questionable how they would get said court order).
Is using a product, patent infringement? Is reading something, plagiarism? So since when is watching something, a "copyright violation"? In all those cases, the user of whatever product is NOT at fault, but whomever provided the product. Lawyers are shifting the blame to the consumers, not the questionable producers, all in a bid for more money. Since when is pushing a play button a crime?
who registers on pornsites LOL
Thankly I don't watch legal porn :)
hahahaha
i wouldnt mind seeing Ana on redtube...
Screw that, let's see a bit of Cenk.
just fishing. ignore the letters, they're legally baseless
This can not be legal, I mean the one strating the content do not know that it is copyrighted. Also would I fight this in court if it happened to me, hell yes, this just is not right and I would not pay, this is trying to steal from pepole and nothing else.
Of course they know its copyrighten videos. There's a logo of the company that made the videos in the corner.
shinmusashi44 I have not been to this particular porn site, but on the ones I have been on Xhamster, pornotube and so on there is allot of videos that are snippets from porn movies, it is impossible then to know which ones are released with the creators approval as advertisement and which ones are copyrighted, Also there is no way of knowing when you klick on a link if something is copyrighted or not so no I stand by what I said earlier these fines just can not be legal.
Problem is that I think it isnt illegal, they can claim annything, if you think its wrong you go to court with it. and then they dismiss it. but still gets money from others that dont.
I like how she throws on some glasses for the sex appeal while she talks about RedTube lol.
i Schwak the pouty mouth in red lipstick is a BONUS!!!! Day-yummm!
I was curious, if she's on redtube
Doesn't matter what anyone is watching. It's the site's fault for HOSTING copyrighted content, not the users' for viewing it, even by choice.
Ok well, clear browsing history, delete all webrowsers, reboot PC. Lets see if I can get away.
Nope. Servers typically log your ip address and what requests you've made. The only way to get around it is to use an anonymizing proxy service.
Seems fair, If i get a bill i will personally put my payload in an envelope and send it off to them.
Copyright laws are so out of date and only benefit the rich. I small time content creator cannot protect their `property` at all. You have to have a lot of money in the first place to even attempt to stop anyone from `breaking` copyright law. I think Creative Commons really is the way to go these days.
Yeah, just recently my internet was temporarily shut down on copyright grounds because someone from the record company LOOKED AT THE FILES ON MY COMPUTER and found that I torrented a Katy Perry cd for my sister (something I did like FOUR MONTHS ago.). They're just lucky that I hate Katy Perry and had absolutely no qualms about deleting the album to get my service back. But it's the fact that the record company was snooping around my files and has the authority to bully my internet provider into shutting down my service that pisses me off.
Use a Router & Peerblock & a Proxy.
im gonna have to file for bankruptcy
Thank goodness I don't go to Red Tube. Er, I mean, thank goodness I don't go to ANY porn sites. No sirree. Not me.
One day me and my sister were looking up different colored youtubes because you know youtube's main colored is red so we looked up Pinktube Bluetube Purpletube until we searched Redtube and then we saw monsterous black holes and man eating eating worms.
Lmao
Lmfao.
Ana Kasparian "redtube is much like youtube, where you stream porn content".
Needless to say I was disappointed with the rest of the video.
Cenk will be watching for his letter.
I think they obtained the IP-addresses in the ads on the site.
Besides, no one can be accused for piracy from this, because the site is responsible for the content, the majority of the site is perfectly legal to stream, which means that you cannot know if it's legal or not legal, not from any common sense etc.
What I'd do if this happened was to tell them to fuck off. If they didn't do that, I'd ask one of the biker gangs to "visit" the person responsible for the letters. I sure hope someone does that, these people are maggots that should be crushed. :)
cenk you have serious issues with germany that you need to address
Typical Türk.
Fuck Cenk. He's one of those racists that make fun of other culture/races only to follow it up with aw-come-one-I-was-kidding.
And he's a sucker for cheap laughs.
fuck google+ Geez so touchy. It is a pretty well known fact that everything in German sounds badass as fuck. Not really mocking them to point it out.
fuck google+ It may be uncool but it's not racist to make fun of a culture. It is a form of chauvinism, but not racist. ./endpedanticofftherailsrant
Carl Friedrich Gauss
lol... apparently the accusation is that he's being stereotypical about Germans. and then a German comes up with the response "typical Turk".
Some people have no concept of irony.
Just ignore, they wont take anyone to court anyway, its basically phishing.
If you don't live in Germany you have nothing to worry about. Germany has very unique copyright statues that can be applied to streaming content over the internet. for example if you live the USA you can watch all kinds of music videos or free on RUclips; many of these same videos will be blocked in Germany because of their copyright laws.
The funny thing: streaming this content is very likey legal in Germany, while aquiring the ip-adresses of the users probably was illegal. Criminal complaint has been filed against the law firm, and they might get in trouble for this.
I would go to court. I have no shame in my sexual porn game. I also have no one left to embarrass.
I presume these films are being streamed without the copyright warnings that you normally get bombarded with before a feature starts when people "stream" these porn films?
If that's the case, how can someone who unwittingly watches it in this manner without knowledge of the copyright violation be prosecuted for it?
They can't. Their strategy is to intimidate innocent people into paying when they've done nothing wrong.
3:30 fuck no i'm fighting. #dealwithithaters #pervandproud
and cenk, since u love stereotypes, you should talk with some germans about the stereotypical behaviour of turkish migrants in germany..
In germany there is a court decision that makes watching streamed content legal. they have no legal grounds to do so and it was big in the news around here
I don't like redtubes porn anyway.
Can you imagine if they did that for physical copies of pirated material. I put on a movie, invite over some friends to watch it with me, say 4-5 people total, BAM 6 lawsuits. :p
"6 guys taking hard lawsuits" The name of your (gay) porn flick. :P
How is this an ad for redtube? NO ONE will want to use them now that people are getting fined.
To give you guys and girls an update from Germany on this issue. Several State Attorneys in several german countries go now after the law firm U+C. When they asked the courts to get the permission to get the real names to IP-adresses, they give the false impression that it was collected from a P2P network - they made false affidavit statements (I hope that was nearly correct english?)
And now to a completely different thing: Seriously (and that not only about TYT thing). Do you get your "german language skills" only from WW2 comedy TV series?
Umm... Are the rest of Europe safe?
Oh dear...
They cant legally attack u if u are just watching a vid on redtube
However, they can if it was child porn even if you didnt know.
Not cool tho
nobody really knows how U&C got the ip adresses, but they probably did it via phishing websites (fake websites), or via malware (a very high number of those who got the notice, had the exact same virus on their pcs).
those are all illegal hacking methods so my hopes are pretty high that this lawfirm will get buttraped in the not to distant future.
(source: i'm geman)
***** i think they can. i don't know alot about that myself, but google says this:
"It will require legal means. In the case of DSL or Cable ISPs, they will have logging that ties the dynamic IP to the modem HMAC which gets recorded during provisioning. From this, you can find the billed party and their home address."
Sooooo America Isnt getting hit with these fee's right?
Doesn't look like it.
thats why i use pornhub
Thats a old practice here in Germany, law firms sending letters because you watched porn/movies/TV series online.
Heres the thing, you dont want to go court because its embarrassing, but the law firm also wont press any charges, because they know its not against the law and they would lose if it went to court.
So all you german porn site watchers, if you get a letter, ignore it. They are fishing for scared guys who pay them.
You will get maybe 2-3 additional letters telling you to pay up or it will go to court. But nothing will happen.
It happened to me, i supposedly subed to a magazine and after a while a law firm started sending me letters telling me to pay up. I ignored it and they stoped.
Like I said, its a old practice to pray on the uninformed and mostly old people.
Redtube sucks anyways
ill challenge the lawyer to an arm wresteling match. right arm
oh, thank god for Xhamster.
Eh, the video playback is too buggy there.
They took our porn! And our money...
Tk' or' prn'?!
I wouldn´t know how to spell it like its said in South Park :D
Well, there's Pornhub, Spankwire and Xhamster...
the sound effects kind of cheapen these news reports.
It's a story about porn, not some high brow political piece.
good point, but they use the sound effects on mean serious news items as well.
ocelotrevs
Lighten up. Levity makes these dark times bearable.
true. true.
Thank you anna, for your explanation of how redtube works. NOBODY HERE KNOWS WHAT THAT IS
I gotta go try redtube. I never heard of it, but it seems like this is really good porn if you have to pay 250 euros. Thanks for telling me about redtube.
...wouldn't the website or uploader be responsible for the copyright infringement? this is so dumb.
I wouldnt take anything RedTube says on copyright infrigement very seriously, from a company that took the "Tube" from youtube and piggybacked on it.
We have this one in Canada... comes up when watching normal porn that you're being arrested for watching illegal porn unless you pay $100 to this website.
I'm like.... lolololololol -more porn
Undercover "corporate filesharers" have been known for a while, especially on PirateBay.
Although in that instance it is about mainstream hollywood movies I am not surprised this tactic has spread to the porn industry.
I've never used Red Tube, but I know with some other sites; like Pornhub and Tube8 certain companies post clips themselves. I'm assuming it's in an effort to lure a person to their sites or whatever.
Cenk don't judge the titles!! Just saying.
And LOL @ "Bust A Nut In Grandma's Butt". Awful, but funny.
I thought the way companies got you when torrenting was the fact that you upload to others while downloading. Unless I'm mistaken, redtube isn't p2p.
The idea that "watch porn" necessarily equals streaming it illegally is ridiculous. There's plenty of porn that's completely free anyway, and some of it is the stuff I prefer. (Hentai, rule 34, etc...)
This story is so worth it just to hear Ana say "double donger".
Just clear your safari settings lol every experienced porn user knows this...
hey, stop making fun of the germans, iam german ! But i dont really fear the Swiss Cheese guys.
I dont watch redtube, i watch Ana, thats my porn.
There is only one or maybe two things i like more, like Cenk mentioned, Kartoffelsalat and Sauerkraut ;).
....won't be going to redtube any time soon.
They probably have a much easier time getting money for porn. You couldn't tell people who watched youtube that they owe money, they would be pissed - I mean maybe they could, but I hope not. - but nobody's going to want to stand up and fight over porn.
I'd fight it in court. I'll be damned if you think you can corner me over something as simple as porn. Ha.
If they allow you to stream it without a payment agreement,It's on them! Free of Charge!
Not everyone respects the fair use clause. Alot of anittubers (youtubers thst do videos on anime) often get hammered hard on this due to Japan's lack of this calause. I did a book review video 2 years ago on o e of the books based on the Predator Franchise so used copious amounts of clips from the movies while saying buy this book and directing viewers to check out two other books in said franchise that have their own trilegies. Still got a copyright strike for a six second scene of the kid from the last pred film trick or treeting. Not the others. Talk to Stephanie Sterling of the Jimquisition, Nash Bozen of Radio Dead Air or any of the other reviewers and commentstors on the web and they will tell you the same thing.
I'm glad I changed to XVideos.
yep.....
Indeed....indeed *puffs cigar and sits back in arm chair*
woo, nice site , teehee
*****
nope bud its safe ;)
To be honest I would just own up to it if someone tried to blackmail me over porn watching, EVERYONE watches porn, it's weirder to find someone who doesn't like porn than it would be to see someone who does
Come at me bros (no pun intended, lmaoo)