Stephen A. explains why C.J. Stroud is a more reliable QB than Joe Burrow 👀 | First Take
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- Stephen A. explains why C.J. Stroud is a more reliable QB than Joe Burrow 👀 | First Take
On First Take, Stephen A. Smith, Chris “Mad Dog” Russo and Ryan Clark debate whether they would rather have Joe Burrow or C.J. Stroud for the next five years.
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CJ is 5 years younger than Burrow. That alone gives him a huge advantage in the “next 5 years” debate.
No it doesn’t. Joe has 5 more years of experience. Next 10 years yes. But not 5.
@@UnknownSource08 with 5 years of more experience there isn’t that big of a gap. As burrow ages he’ll be more susceptible to injuries
@@harrisonmooney6331stroud has a dangerous squad and OC too the Texans are looking scary af
@@harrisonmooney6331 yall assuming way too much after a great rookie season lol
Bro played one season man this is crazy
I mean bro it was a crazy season, and it’s just nuts how a bottom 5 team becomes a contender because of a rookie QB
Not too much on my QB
Yeah and for rookie he had one of the greatest rookie seasons ever at 1 point that man was in the MVP conversation.
@@kingnemoo340 you right they became a good team but they weren’t a contender last year. The only way you could be a contender is making the final 4
@@dariusjohnson6013 I’m talking about RN. Bro they are a contender rn. You always gotta take into account they weren’t healthy at all last year and still made it to the playoffs with one of the worst teams possible. Then all you do is take the best players that helped you get there and replace them with way better people. Yeah I’m classifying them as contenders brodie. And that’s no a rule either that you gotta make it to the conference to be a contender. It’s guys that can make it there and never ever make it to the Super Bowl😂
He beat Joe in his house in his rookie year. CJ Stroud is the next great.
While Joe was still injured 😂
@@genericnameplate8391the bengals were 3-0 and Texans shut them down. Shut up with the injury excuse when Texans were the most injured team in the league 😂
@@Cashias_clay they won that game because of a field goal 🤣
@@DaveysWonderfulWorldThey won the game because Boyd dropped a wide open touchdown pass to win the game. Cj started to fold in the clutch during that game.
He also lost to the worse team in the League, the panthers.
The burrow disrespect is crazy
Now other fan bases gets to see how it feels, even when mahomes already won it was on qb after another they tried to say Herbert was better he can't beat mahomes, they tried to say Allen was better he can't beat mahomes in the playoffs, they tried for almost tw months to say baker was better mahomes beat him twice and once in the playoffs, then they switched to hurts and then burrow.
@@wileycoyote2336bro we don’t care about mahomes
@@diesel2568 the quit talking about him ☺
@@diesel2568 burrow isnt being disrespected. He has accomplished nothing more than jared goff and is glorified because his receiving core since college has been dynamic. He's a top 10 type of guy. End of story
CJ STROUD WILL BE THE GREATEST QB OF ALL TIME MARK MY WORDS
😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yall gon Be Laughing when they win the Superbowl
@@BigBagGettaz He's not that guy to challenge Mahomes. Stop it.
Stop
CJ beat Joe in a comeback win, we won the argument
Not so much my friend fella that ruined the beat down is in Cincy now was a drop to prevent overtime even happening won’t even use injury but do like stroud a lot
This is a team sport CJ didn’t win anything by himself.
Zach Wilson beat CJ Stroud, I guess the Milf Hunter is on top by that logic
@@357sayso why yall overrate burrow for beating mahomes then keep it consistent
I love Joe but I’m not putting the next 5 years on a guy who can barely finish a season without having some kind of major injury. That was the question asked “based off of injury”. Only right answer is CJ.
Exactly!
you do realize cj stroud missed 2 games last season due to injury?😂technically, he doesn't have ANY healthy seasons lmao.
@@TripleG12398 you can’t read can you? I said MAJOR injury. Cj had a concussion. Not the same type of injury.
@@westonsmith4094 he still missed 2 games due to injury😂😂😂it doesn't matter what your definition of "major injury" is. stroud hasn't had a healthy season in his NFL career and hardly anybody mentions it, but guys like SAS are so quick to say that he would take stroud over burrow for the next 5 years ONLY because of health lol.
Let's see him get hit a few more times running around lol
I mean Joe burrow did turn the bengals franchise around just like stroud it’s just burrow has always been injured
What Joe did for Cinci is leaps and bounds better than the Texans. The Texans have not been a bad franchise for 20+ years. Not even for 5 years
@@popjibbletzneither has cincy did you forget Andy use to have them in the playoffs
@daquaylenavie3740 and they would consistently lose to....the texans
@@ShawnReed-ny1hd the curse of tj yates
@@ShawnReed-ny1hd true but y’all acting like the bengals just been terrible forever. Yes Joe has had more success but they were in the playoffs consistently and competing with dalton.
Off of one year? Lol. To say you can say that off of play is wild thing for Clark to say.
Rookie QB’s always have an advantage their first year. Teams have to learn their style of play. I’m not saying CJ isn’t a good QB but one year doesn’t solidify him as elite.
I agree. Bit CJ might be different.
Joe Burrow getting the 2020 2021 Lamar treatment and I’m loving it 😂😂
Facts lol i love to see the media keep same energy for these other qbs the same as they do for LJ
Yall rat bird fans/ lamar fans sad lol😂😂 wishing injury & bad on others! Yall realize why lamar gets hate
Lamar sucks in the playoffs. Stats don't lie. Burrow way better in playoffs.
@@JoseMarquez-wz3frwtf that gotta do w injuries 😂
@ShinefortheCam Who wish for injuries??? Lol
y’all tripping!! Burrow is the one who started the change the whole franchise around…. CJ is a dog but to say you’d take him over Burrow for next few years you are really dilusional
When he wins the superbowl then we can talk. Playoff win and no superbowl win is a failure.
Joe always hurt dats y they take CJ
Don't forget about the Rams vs Ravens game last season!!! OT and probably the most thrilling game of the year💯
What does that have to do with this conversation lol
@@JerryDoe-ds3un lol it doesn't have nothing to do with the initial topic but mad dog took the Rams as a sleeper team later in the video and he brought up the Rams Lions first round matchup from last season and I thought about that Rams Ravens matchup towards the end of the season. My bad for the mix up😂
I’m a Bengals fan so ima homer . But this segment is so dumb. Stroud played 1 season. Season can’t start fast enough
Better hope Joe stays healthy cuz if he goes down so does the bengals season 😂
@@lotwo17 that’s not saying much. You could say that about every team
@@WhhodeyDMH come on now if Joe burrow goes down again that says everything what are u talking about the bengals are cooked at QB without him in there 😂
@@WhhodeyDMH like I said that says everything u better hope he stays healthy he already talks alotta smack like ppl don’t wana sack tf outta him he makes himself a target 🎯
@@lotwo17 lol u so zesty
Yeah, take the Texans to a Super Bowl then I’ll consider it
That was 3 years ago kid get over it they lost anyway..
@@HARVEY_1988but lets dxck ride CJ after one season?? 😂ok buddy
@@kiingxfinesseand Texans beat bengals during his first season
@@mkarmy4742off of a dropped pass in the endzone. 1 head to head win doesn’t mean all that much
@@carter0791 1 of the worst teams beat the bengals.
Everything Clark said Joe did. No one is invincible
"Susceptible to Injury" look at the sack stats! My guy is going through it😂
Gtfoh. More reliable than Burrow? That’s crazy af
Asinine 😂😂
Cj already beat burrow. You make no sense
@babyj5566 talk to me when stroud beat mahomes at least 3 times and in the playoffs when it counts the most
@@babyj5566 another stupid comment
@@jamesmanuel9909 it’s cj 2nd year. The fact it’s a debate between the two just means Cj is projected to have a higher ceiling than burrow. I’ll come back and clown you when the season starts
I’ve never seen a QB have one good season so far and get the glazing this hard lol
This is the love the media wanted to give Fields. This is the narrative
Uhhh Joe burrow lol give me a break the guy won 1 game against Pat and us called top 2 so we keeping it the same CJ beat burrow by the way
Let's pump the breaks.
Stroud has been in the League for a year, and Burrow took his team to the SB in year two.
That said: if Burrow gets hurt again this year and Stroud goes far in the playoffs, I'll change my tune.
Mahomes was crowned top 5 after one season. Stop with that nonsense
@@babyj5566 Mahomes didn't start until his second year, and he put 50 TDs with a 113.8qbr. Furthermore, in not hating on Stroud, but expectations can kill a young players progression, and people are making it seem like Stroud is SB or bust.
@@t.servo55408 history shows good qb tend to make the jump to the superbowl there second season. Mahomes, Big Ben, Kurt Warner, Brady, Wilson, even Burrow. I get what you’re saying but if I was a betting man, my money would be on Cj to dethrone Mahomes. No Nfl team has ever 3peated and back to back champs have never made it to the superbowl the following year.
I love how y'all continue to hype Burrow for something he did 3 years ago, but change your tune when it comes to Jalen Hurts, even though his SB run was more recent lol
@@Jayjay23614nigga wat? 🤣 just say u a hater buddy.. burrow went to back to back afc championships with the worse olines in the league clown
Please, please, please give Joe Burrow an offensive line and let's see what he can really do
Mahomes didn't really have one and won the superbowl if he has to have the best of the best around him just to compete when Lamar who didn't have a good o line at first won an MVP and Mahomes with a superbowl his best just maybe ain't the best .
Weren't these guys talking about how horribly he's been protected? Plus how can you compare injuries with a guy who just finished his rookie season? Lol
it can be compared because stroud was injured in his rookie season and missed 2 games during his rookie season due to injury😂😂😂technically, stroud doesn't have ANY healthy seasons. the media loves contradicting themselves lol
As a Texans fan we’re excited but man they are basically putting stroud on maholmes expectations
Smh ryan should be ashamed of himself didnt he play for lsu 2
MAAAAAAAN STOOOOOOOOOP IIIIIIIIITTTTTTTT TF ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HERE???
Man Watson had potential but never had a game like CJ vs TB..
Watson always was overated
I forgot about Richardson and the colts but ant nobody messing with my chiefs
Pump the brakes folks,CJ Stroud has a long way to go before he is playing like Joe Burrow on a consistent level.
It’s only bc injury if borrow is healthy you are correct, he’s lethal just has to be healthy fam
I agree. When Burrow is healthy he is right there next to Patrick Mahomes. We have to see how this season plays out with CJ Stroud,now that more tape is out on the young qb.
CJ is going be just as good a both buddy. Wait and see. Dude is special
It’s amazing how many people can not spell the correct form of brakes
Stroud has two functioning hands lmao, better roster, and better coaching staff.
Nice take though
Based on 1 season is just crazy
Lmao yo yall keep disrespecting Josh Allen
Chiefs fan here. Josh is number 2 burrow aint nowhere near that. Imagine Josh with Chase and Higgins 😨.
@@snowthapro816Josh Allen had good receiving core you forgot about Diggs ??😂
@@snowthapro816 so josh didn't have diggs, gabe davis, and dawson know?😂
Joe made it to the superbowl in his 2nd season. Hes the only QB in the AFC that has 3 wins against Mahomes
Burrow is so overrated. Living off a SB LOSS over 3 years ago and the inability to stay healthy is his resume. At this point, Burrow is on the same tier or less than Jalen Hurts.
I agree.
Less than Hurts
Both of yall are smoking. He ain’t living off a Super Bowl loss. The year after that he led his his team to 13 wins while having to toughest schedule in the NFL. Let me remind you casuals he’s been doing all this with a bottom 3 offensive line for his whole career. Yall have to actually watch football before just saying anything.
@@513ovaeverything7and b2b afc championship games.. u couldnt have explained it any better to these clowns
You really don’t watch football do you
So yall gone keep disrespecting joe burrow all for a fake debate and twitter trends 😂
Didn’t the Texans barely make the playoffs because the Colts messed up 😂
No they beat but you can start whatever narrative you want
Yup, and Jaguars were garbage down the stretch.
I can tell you CJ Stroud looks up to Joe Burrow,and he knows how talented Joe Burrow is. Both are super star qb’s in the AFC.
Yall neee to chill it’s one good year do it for another 3 years and we’ll put him up there
One good year? The best rookie season of all time is one good year?? Yeah, ok whatever...
For all the Tyler Boyd comments.....Robert Woods never stepped out of bounds
Can please pump the brakes on CJ he had one good year, until he does consistently like Joe, take his team to the Super Bowl, and back to back afc championships then please don’t say anything delusional.
C j stroud missed games with a concussion didnt he 🤔
the media loves to contradict😂😂😂
I’m a Lamar fan, but man Cj stroud is REALLY GOOD!!!
Burrow has big wins under belt. If healthy, one if the Best.
Key word IF
Even when healthy he’s not the best sorry
Look I like both these young men. I hope both CJ and Burrow ball the fkn out!! With that said...go Texans!!
Stroud is the man, but the injury thing can't be compared. CJ only has one season under his belt. Its too early for that.
I'd like to see how Stroud does in these coming years when defenses make adjustments. Guys like Justin Herbert, Deshaun Watson, Baker Mayfield, Kyler Murray, and etc all had stellar first seasons. Then sort of plateaued or even fall flat of their projections after the 1st season
As a bengals fan CJ is going to be right up there with the rest of the AFC elite quarterbacks very soon and wish him the best
Browns being slept on? They don't make the playoffs this year if the Bengals and ravens are both qb injury free
This is ridiculous. CJ played 1 year
Burrow came in with weapons unlike a lot of QBs
He had the worst o line in the league tho
So did Mahomes what you crying about
the importance of weapons on a team is so overrated😂it's important but not as much as the o-line is
you know the season is close whenn first take is postin takes like this
Didn’t cj miss time last year too ? Lol
that's EXACTLY what I said🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣the media really loves to make any narrative they want even if they contradict themselves lmao
Smh dude has been in the league 1 year . Espn literally knows nothing about football its a popularity contest now
Bengals struggled with the worse offensive line in the league. We can’t keep ignoring that’s a big part of the reason for his injuries. Constantly taking those hits
Yall are going to make people hate CJ stroud !! lol
Cj said eli was better than rodgers...he's making people hate him😂
He said he would take Eli career over Rodgers. Why do you people make up stuff
Let’s wait to see what stroud does, burrow took his team to the Super Bowl then the afc title game to following season.
The CJ stroud hate will continue for the next 15 years ❤ Go Texans
Did this guy just say appendectomy like it was a football injury
CJ is what the media was hoping Trey Lance and Fields would be.
Brought the bengals they first win since the 1990 and got them to the Super Bowl, if C.J. stroud doesn’t make it to the Super Bowl in the next 2 years and Joe does. This convo is immediately null n void
My god how these people have jobs is beyond me
Joe cool is nasty but Stroud's salary benefits first year play without weapons & young team building around the team with their new players young coach smart as he'll relatable to players win win win CJ BEST 5 YEAR OPTION.
Nico & Tank Dell were solid wide receivers. They are weapons don’t insult them just cause they are new. Plus they had a great tight end. The only confusion was them not using Devin Singultary correctly last season.
After 1 season let’s wait 5 years from now
Has everyone just forgotten that Stroud destroyed Burrow in the head to head last year? Why is that never talked about?
Its easy to come up with that after ONE year...and he wonders why espn not trying to pay him😂 his takes are preschool
the argument that SAS has is super flawed. stroud literally got injured in his rookie year and missed 2 games because of the injuries. stroud probably could have won MVP if not for the injuries. the media just LOVES to contradict themselves lol.😂😂😂burrow is injury prone but at least burrow played 41 straight regular season games until he injured his wrist and hasn't missed any playoff games in his career. the disrespect towards burrow is REALLY getting out of hand and he will make y'all respect him more this season!
Yall tryna put a hex on my boy CJ but it won’t work
A QB always has a good coach to prepare the team without certain players who think of themselves first
Stephen A need to let the hair go man… it went even farther back it looks like… the camera man doing him dirty with that side angle 😂
These analysts switch opinions as often as they switch underwear. Once Burrow beats Stroud in the playoffs, they'll switch back to Burrow.
The glaze is crazy
Puhleeez
It's levels
CJ ascending tho
Burrow will do big things this year and SA will have to eat crow.
Serious question. Why does Brock purdy have to “show more” or “prove more” when that’s all he’s done since he first touched the field as a starter. In 1 and half full seasons. But everyone is so ready to jump the gun on stroud… Not saying stroud ain’t like that but the media is so biased it’s crazy
Texans were a wreck, but SAS was basically saying the Texans were racist. He needs to be held accountable for being, at times, a race baiting fraud.
He played one season plz shut up
People need to chill on CJ, yes he had an amazing rookie season but he only threw for 23 TDs let’s not act like he came out like Mahomes did his first year as a starter. Everyone thought Herbert was going to be up next, then it was Hurts. Let’s see CJ improve and at least get to multiple AFC Championship games before we say he’s better than Burrow
If the Houston coach was white , i don't think Molly would blurt out she loves the Houston coach
Joe burrow first healthy season he got to a sb something cj Stroud failed to do. Love CJ but joe still number 2 qb in the league behind mahomes
We all know why they're hyping him up over Burrow 💀
How come?
@snowthapro816 the media is pushing black qbs , look at this year's draft, the media was down on all the white firsr round qbs and high on all the black ones.
Burrow record against Patty doesn’t matter because Patty is clearly #1.
Burrow vs Lamar 1-4
what type of question is that? I mean this show is really really really bad...
Texans 👍
Cj only played 1 year how's that prove anything ???
Ppl in the comments hating like he didn’t have the best rookie season of all time.
Houston is a very good team but let's face it, they sucked SO BAD that they were handed a number of first rounders bing bing bing. To Nick Caserio's credit he knocked them all out of the park, but it took a lot of pain and heartache to get to this point. But how fortunate can one team be at QB? This is their second winner in how many years? This is rare. I wish them well, and they could end up being somebody you don't want to see in the playoffs. Very easily.
TEXANS ALSO BEAT BENGALS LAST YEAR
Bengals didn't have their players. They were Beat up
@@ShinefortheCam bro we were like the 1 of the worst teams so who did Texans have?
@@ShinefortheCamexcuses the bengals fans an players ain’t say that when other teams players are out 😂
@@ShinefortheCamTexans were most injured team shut up😭
texans also lost to the panthers last year😂😂😂
Joe is the truth,I’m a start my team wit’m…bmf str8up!
Burrow can beat Mahomes in the playoffs. Who else can? Lol
Has Stephen A. ever played the qb position or any position in football ever? The only redeeming quality he and that mad dog character have are big mouths. That's what ESPN pays for these days.
Bro who df did the Texans play last year????? Every single winning team they played they lost.
Defensive coordinator's have a full season of tape on stroud, so let's see if he's able to adjust to the different looks of this season.
The greatest accomplishment of Joe Burrow’s NFL career - beating Mahomes in the playoffs before losing in the Super Bowl - was three years ago. 🥱
At least he got there bro yall idiots act like its not accomplishment to make the Super Bowl how many other qb made it ?? Since yall love to hate Lamar can’t even win a playoff game Josh Allen choke every year so what’s there excuse for not making it ?? 😂
@@goat3x333 not saying it wasn’t an accomplishment. but hanging your hat on a win that was three seasons ago and wasn’t a Super Bowl win is just sad.
Stop Jinxing C J
His turnovers was definitely low but his turnover worthy plays not so much luck better stay the same but love stroud’s mobility
the Texans are the team to watch this season. Texans SWARM GO TEXANS
Greatest rookie QB season in my opinion
I love this 😂😂
How long til they turn on stroud now lol
If they don’t make the playoffs or some how get bounced in the 1st rd this year and doesn’t play up to there standards that the media has placed on them as of right now buh … Who knows 🤷🏾♂️ We shall see !
media is crazy, that is why esp big media
end of the year when they don't win the bowl
@@ishyameru6232 They are winning the Superbowl for the next 5 years.
@@ishyameru6232 This dude gotta be some kind of comedian read what he said
Already ? Nah lol I find it hard to say something like that after just 1 year 😂
Players get paid for SHOWBOATING and talking smack. But don't win real games
Herberts rookie year he played two less games, had more yards and way more touchdowns. Time to stop the hype. Id bet a grand that his sophmore year wont touch herberts with over 5000 yards and nearly 40 tds.