The Regrettable Truth Behind Minecrafts Golden Apple...

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  • Опубликовано: 10 июн 2024
  • The golden apple is one of the rarest and most powerful items in minecraft. However, the story behind its creation and its creator, are almost all but forgotten...
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  • @TheMisterEpic
    @TheMisterEpic  2 года назад +608

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  • @fernandoc5536
    @fernandoc5536 2 года назад +6758

    I am so sad JTE was seemingly bullied off the community. I shiver just imagining what could've been if she had stayed from thereon. What kind of game would we have if she'd continued helping develop the game alongside Notch?

    • @samarsingh07
      @samarsingh07 2 года назад +654

      and what she would have felt, the people who supported her started bullying her. That would be so heart breaking dude.

    • @stproducciones9140
      @stproducciones9140 2 года назад +1

      He deserved it.

    • @RebootedTitan
      @RebootedTitan 2 года назад +379

      I wonder what JTE is doing now
      Edit. Thank you guys for the ton of likes

    • @ThePC007
      @ThePC007 2 года назад +330

      Yeah, it was actually kind of sad. If Notch was supporting what she was doing, what issue did the mods have with her? :/

    • @monelmonelmonel
      @monelmonelmonel 2 года назад +360

      If she hadn't been pushed off the Minecraft forums, she might have created an early Java version of realms with servers hosted directly by Mojang rather than through third-party server hosting websites like it is now.

  • @StormyRaptor2.0
    @StormyRaptor2.0 2 года назад +2661

    Man, I wonder where JTE is now. Just really hope she's out there doing something great, because just this shows how much potential she has at creating.

    • @NBrad
      @NBrad 2 года назад +180

      she's still around, even made some comments in this video

    • @dannyneufeld3364
      @dannyneufeld3364 2 года назад +16

      How do we know it's a she? Just wondering...

    • @MrHairyTeabag
      @MrHairyTeabag 2 года назад +103

      @@dannyneufeld3364 they said in the video

    • @ThatsTypical
      @ThatsTypical 2 года назад +73

      she is still around, goes by the yt name catgirl

    • @tmtmym8862
      @tmtmym8862 2 года назад +4

      @@ThatsTypical bro I could not find it could you pls send any link

  • @ip1335
    @ip1335 2 года назад +4205

    JTE wherever you are, if you somehow come across this video, we just want you to know how much we appreciate everything you've done for Minecraft ♥

  • @glidershower
    @glidershower 2 года назад +1233

    The irony is that the logic of JTE stealing customers from Notch is laughable considering the guys that ran the minecraft4free website managed to get away with it for two whole years before Notch asked them to take it down, and even went down to accept the pirates gauntlet of an online match in another multiplayer game as a condition to do so.
    All of this story boils down to mod people being jealous of JTE's genius and not being able to replicate or even understand what she was doing at the time. Now she lives as the golden apple and in JTE's words, *"yet it still moves..."*
    Thanks for sharing this bit of OG minecraft history. I left the game for a decade in early 2010 due to problems with griefers and stuff. JTE's cage design is exactly the one we also used in our server back in the day, before it was eventually defeated and we were droven away. Makes me sad to think all of the advances people like her could've done to put an end to the griefing epidemic that took the game hostage for half of its early life. Hope she's doing well and went on to keep on coding her own projects.

    • @tellurian7999
      @tellurian7999 2 года назад +16

      not just any multiplayer game, but quake 3

    • @Extremezotako
      @Extremezotako 2 года назад +9

      Damm your not actually faking it your account was made in 2006

    • @LilacMonarch
      @LilacMonarch 2 года назад +26

      Gotta love power-tripping mods/management who make people's lives hell just to make themselves feel "important" or whatever. It's pathetic

    • @deaconfetundes7888
      @deaconfetundes7888 Год назад +8

      @@LilacMonarch The Curse of powertripping mods have never disappeared going to major community like Discord and Reddit.

    • @acetheinadequate
      @acetheinadequate Год назад +3

      when you’re so big brain people get mad because of it

  • @Lefty7788tinkatolli
    @Lefty7788tinkatolli 2 года назад +1564

    I've been playing Minecraft for nearly 10 years, and this is the first I have ever heard of JTE. Thank you so much for enlightening us and making her story known. She deserved so much better than what she got. The fact she put all that work in and pioneered one of Minecraft's most popular modes only to be bullied away by a couple of jumped-up forum admins is just heartbreaking. In my experience of the Minecraft forums, I must say the admins were despicable. They gave me infractions at every opportunity, and it got to the point where I swear they were targeting me. Esteemed users were often very rude to me, and if I stood up for myself, I wound up getting a 2-day ban while they got off scot-free. I am glad that forum went in the end. I hope those 2 mods feel thoroughly and utterly ashamed with themselves, and I hope JTE found success and the recognition she deserved in whatever she did after her early Minecraft work.

    • @Extremezotako
      @Extremezotako 2 года назад +13

      Damm your not fake your account was made in 2011
      Good job mate

    • @itzpixster2031
      @itzpixster2031 2 года назад +2

      wow

    • @retrotek0409
      @retrotek0409 Год назад

      Those 2 mods are self righteous Karens. May they roast on a spit.

    • @thanoof
      @thanoof Год назад +15

      @@Extremezotako As if RUclips accounts have anything to do with Minecraft accounts

    • @theorange1299
      @theorange1299 Год назад +23

      @@Extremezotako did you really need proof that he was on this earth for longer than 10 years lol

  • @polypinesnek3744
    @polypinesnek3744 2 года назад +836

    It pisses me off that someone so influential was bullied off Minecraft by mods abusing their power when they had permission from the game’s creator.

    • @DexTag
      @DexTag 2 года назад +32

      No one knows what really happened and it seems like JTE wanted to sell what she made, and this is where it might become a bit more difficult. Keep in mind all of this happened 12 years ago so no one really knows what actually went down.
      Given her talent and knowledge, she could have single handedly overtaken the entire server side of Minecraft, if not more - and looking at some of the mod responses it looks like she did plan to monetize them. Usually, these kind of things are nowadays done with paypal/patreon and just to support the creator, not to actually receive something. But if you build upon a game and then try to sell it, there are very different reactions. Especially if you can put your entire focus on one side that started becoming a lot more popular very soon after, while the dev has to take care of the entire game.
      Her selling it for $10 each is not a definitive answer that it was planned, but that it was at least her reaction to the forum drama, and at worst planned like that from get go. $10 at that time is IIRC more than the actual game cost, which was around $5-7. And it might have been even worse, if the server doesnt even require Minecraft itself to be played on. I kind of doubt it, but its possible.
      Either way, I can see where the clash could have come from, but who knows what happened.

    • @optimx314
      @optimx314 2 года назад +59

      moderators ruining everything for everyone,a tale as old as time

    • @monke6912
      @monke6912 2 года назад +8

      minecraft is always toxic

    • @optimx314
      @optimx314 2 года назад +7

      @@monke6912 ligma

    • @JessieEchidna
      @JessieEchidna 2 года назад +48

      It was just a small ragtag community forum in its infancy which had just scrapped itself together because Notch refused to manage an "official" one. It couldn't be helped.

  • @nicholasschmidt2864
    @nicholasschmidt2864 2 года назад +714

    Wow. In the infancy of the game's life, two moderators bullied a seriously talented and committed modder into quitting the scene for the grievance of making the game functional and more bearable to play in multiplayer. It's amazing the game got anywhere if the official forums were run by clown mods that formed instant beefs with anyone who they *assumed* had a slight disagreement with Notch.

    • @Lefty7788tinkatolli
      @Lefty7788tinkatolli 2 года назад +1

      It's awful. I hope they feel deeply regretful for what they did, and that JTE found success in what she went on to do after this without being hampered by a couple of jumped-up cunts.

    • @croshbarandorocoot
      @croshbarandorocoot 2 года назад +145

      Discord mods before discord

    • @HaydenX
      @HaydenX 2 года назад

      I mean...it is Notch. He's a pathetic man-child with a hate-on for literally anyone who isn't exactly like himself.

    • @JessieEchidna
      @JessieEchidna 2 года назад +103

      Notch refused to take up the responsibility to manage an "official" forums himself, since he was busy just working on the game, so all we had was the "Minecraft Community Forums", hosted and run by random fans. That moderator was literally just a 16 year old who happened to draw some half-decent pixel art Minecraft skins at the time; No one knew what they were doing, and that's okay.

    • @snark567
      @snark567 2 года назад

      Most moderators are usually incredibly autistic.

  • @DissonantSynth
    @DissonantSynth 2 года назад +440

    JTE did absolutely nothing wrong. She helped to build and solidify the community. If it weren't for her, we wouldn't even have SMPs today and MC would be far less successful.
    It's so sad that she was forced to leave the forums. Those forum moderators were horrible

    • @nobodybroda3826
      @nobodybroda3826 11 месяцев назад

      Personally I wanna see the universe where she said fuck it and deleted her work and left, perhaps the community would be worse or non existent. Imagine those sweaty neckbeards horror!~

  • @maroonknight5252
    @maroonknight5252 2 года назад +193

    Dang, this sucks for her. I had no idea she existed until now. I am happy that you have told this story and gave her the recognition she deserved. After seeing this video I decided to see what I could find about her on Google, but I had to use some very specific wording to find information about her. I hope that she will eventually get all the recognition she deserves, these types of stories always find a way of surfacing some day and I hope that this one gets fully shown to everyone. Good job and thank you for helping her get the recognition she deserves.

  • @CortDollaz215
    @CortDollaz215 2 года назад +104

    Sad to think what she could’ve added to the game if they brought her on as a member of the team.

    • @filbertovandette
      @filbertovandette 2 года назад +6

      If they treated creators like they do today....she'd be working side by side with people like gnebom...

  • @welpyes
    @welpyes 2 года назад +760

    As one of the Og Minecrafters, JTE is very well known before. Some of My friends even called him a god.

    • @themanwhowouldbebrick
      @themanwhowouldbebrick 2 года назад +181

      *her

    • @welpyes
      @welpyes 2 года назад +40

      @@themanwhowouldbebrick yea

    • @welpyes
      @welpyes 2 года назад +173

      @@themanwhowouldbebrick i will lose my heart if i edit so i cant

    • @themanwhowouldbebrick
      @themanwhowouldbebrick 2 года назад +42

      @@welpyes ok fair enough

    • @pluto9992
      @pluto9992 2 года назад +40

      Maybe thats why it's called God Apple

  • @0content21
    @0content21 2 года назад +110

    From now on i'm calling all Enchanted Golden Apples "JTE Apples" in honor of this Minecraft pioneer.

    • @Apple_Beshy
      @Apple_Beshy Год назад +4

      You will forget that in a day

    • @gmandunn
      @gmandunn Год назад +1

      @@Apple_Beshy lets see if they still remember

  • @Sevenigma777
    @Sevenigma777 2 года назад +122

    Pfft it's both sad and funny to see people saying how JTE was stealing customers from Notch. I wonder who has more money and fame now, Notch or JTE? At least that means all the accusations against JTE are proven false.

    • @JessieEchidna
      @JessieEchidna 2 года назад +59

      To be fair, those accusations were made by a 16 year old who became forum moderator because they did pixel art.
      Does kinda sting sometimes that I was already gone before the Mojang company even formed, Notch never spoke to me again, and I'm living on welfare. *shrug* It's fine.

    • @hexogramd8430
      @hexogramd8430 2 года назад +2

      @@JessieEchidna wait… are you JTE‽

    • @pinkliongaming8769
      @pinkliongaming8769 2 года назад +14

      @@JessieEchidna good luck with everything, JTE

    • @brahtrumpwonbigly7309
      @brahtrumpwonbigly7309 2 года назад +2

      @@JessieEchidna you should do paying gigs instead of sitting around modding things for fun.

    • @JessieEchidna
      @JessieEchidna 2 года назад +43

      @@brahtrumpwonbigly7309 I would love to, but my magical programming superpowers come from a fickle autism that tends to make me burn-out and die whenever I really need to stay focused on something for more than a month. :'3
      So I can't trust myself to be able to reliably deliver for a paid project, which is a real shame... I've tried.

  • @SemiHypercube
    @SemiHypercube 2 года назад +80

    to think that one of the most powerful items in the game came from a joke

  • @jacckkaboii3528
    @jacckkaboii3528 2 года назад +287

    Wow, I am so surprised that how JTE was pushed away from the community even though they were such a big influence...

    • @stproducciones9140
      @stproducciones9140 2 года назад

      He deserved it

    • @vitalijusmacas1629
      @vitalijusmacas1629 2 года назад +2

      ikr

    • @FrostySnow1000
      @FrostySnow1000 2 года назад +23

      The forums were ran by fans and moderated by fans (aka 16 yr olds) no-one knew what they were doing

    • @happygofishing
      @happygofishing Год назад

      @@FrostySnow1000 the minecraft fanbase was probably way less kids back in alpha

  • @bunnybear6109
    @bunnybear6109 2 года назад +216

    Just before this video released I literally found an enchanted golden apple in a dungeon! What are the chances of that?? Can’t wait to watch this vid

    • @TheMisterEpic
      @TheMisterEpic  2 года назад +62

      What a coincidence!

    • @derpycat9347
      @derpycat9347 2 года назад +9

      nice

    • @projectember728
      @projectember728 2 года назад +15

      About 3-6% of the time

    • @spiritupgrades
      @spiritupgrades 2 года назад +6

      @@TheMisterEpic jeff

    • @rebane2001
      @rebane2001 2 года назад +1

      Dungeons have a 3.1% chance of spawning with an enchanted gap, so assuming every person who watched this video visited one dungeon recently, 1550 would've found an egap.

  • @wick1439
    @wick1439 2 года назад +24

    i completely forgot i was watching a video about the golden apple until you brought it up again

  • @strangerdanger7803
    @strangerdanger7803 Год назад +35

    I almost completely forgot about JTE. A real legend, a pioneer of early Minecraft. Their actions formed some of the common things we see today in Minecraft. Whether that be the golden apple or something like red names for administrators. JTE is a unsung hero of Minecraft's history. The game wouldn't be the same without their contributions, godspeed to JTE wherever they are now. Godspeed.

  • @Valcuda
    @Valcuda 2 года назад +147

    I honestly feel bad for JTE. She didn't make Minecraft, but she helped make Minecraft what it is today.
    Part of me wonders what the game would be like had she not been bullied off the forums

    • @konstak05
      @konstak05 Год назад +3

      Without chat reporting system Probably XD

    • @AshenDust_
      @AshenDust_ Год назад

      @@konstak05 why do you think that? Microsoft would’ve still bought the game

    • @Forcoy
      @Forcoy 9 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@AshenDust_Notch only sold it because he thought that his life would be magically fixed by getting rid of it. Clearly, its gotten worse since.

  • @vttale
    @vttale 2 года назад +26

    I wish Notch hadn't turned her down for help with network programming (ref: 8:50ish). As an Internet systems programmer my greatest beef with Minecraft is how terrible its networking is.

  • @mixel8
    @mixel8 2 года назад +65

    Only OG will remember the time when enchanted gapple made out of apple and 8 block of gold

    • @themanwhowouldbebrick
      @themanwhowouldbebrick 2 года назад +1

      Yessss

    • @angelicaph483
      @angelicaph483 2 года назад +4

      Damm the good but gold old days😌 (OG minecrafter btw)

    • @ThePC007
      @ThePC007 2 года назад

      Man, I miss the good ol' days. Back when Minecraft was a passion project and not a billion-dollar corporate endeavor.

    • @C.G.Gaster
      @C.G.Gaster 2 года назад

      indeed

    • @MCAlexisYT
      @MCAlexisYT 2 года назад

      *Laughs in Play Older Versions*

  • @cryppi1510
    @cryppi1510 2 года назад +72

    Man, I feel so bad that JTE isn't more talked about. Thank you for spreading her name! Hopefully she sees this video someday!

    • @hexogramd8430
      @hexogramd8430 2 года назад +24

      she already saw it! shes replied to a lot of comments already

    • @cryppi1510
      @cryppi1510 2 года назад +6

      @@hexogramd8430 That's awesome, thank you for letting me know!

  • @TheAdvertisement
    @TheAdvertisement 2 года назад +38

    Poor JTE, she pioneered so much of Minecraft, and yet was persecuted unjustly. It'd be great if she could ever return, she didn't deserve being pushed out of the community. I'm glad her legacy can live on in the game through the golden apple.

  • @Princess_Garnet
    @Princess_Garnet 2 года назад +253

    Interesting to see that the Minecraft Forums staff was as pushy to make users feel unwelcome all that time ago too because I thought maybe it was just a recent thing.
    I decided to leave there a couple years back after being given infractions a couple of times for apparently being too far off topic (usually for chats with The Master Caver user). Forums are typically a type of social media platform that consists of things called threads which naturally, you know, evolve over time. It's not like I was suddenly introducing wildly different topics either, but if you were posting ANYTHING but a direct response to the very initial post, then it felt like it was at a risk of not being welcome. After one of my posts was removed for this (which I felt wasn't even off topic), I figured the place wasn't worth it anymore. Good riddance.
    All this was really the last straw after the forums underwent so many technical issues making it hard to use anyway, one which made pages super CPU heavy (on a rather fast CPU at the time) to edit longer posts, making me give up on maintaining the thread showing my world, and another that just... randomly made PMs never load, so I'd get PM notifications but lose access to my inbox for half a year at a time.
    Glad to hear she stood up for herself, and got Golden Apples into the game for it, haha.

    • @TheMisterEpic
      @TheMisterEpic  2 года назад +44

      I've come across the master caver on the forums many times, seems very knowledgable about the game

    • @cyanp.ramirez5174
      @cyanp.ramirez5174 2 года назад +5

      @@TheMisterEpic He also has been playing the same MC version for 7 years, with a jar he has been modifying and distributing since then.

    • @cyanp.ramirez5174
      @cyanp.ramirez5174 2 года назад +5

      I remember getting a warning after responding to an user that asked a question related with the main topic there, I didn't know why either.

    • @MCLVideo
      @MCLVideo 2 года назад +2

      What's wrong with TheMasterCaver?

  • @1ups_15
    @1ups_15 2 года назад +40

    you deserve more recognition for reading an internet argument that happened more than 10 years ago just to make a video

  • @kitsune_117
    @kitsune_117 2 года назад +64

    Absolutely amazing story, sad ending tho. I remember playing on a server when grapples were still craftable, it was a sign of how powerful you were if you tons of them. Crazy how one of the most op items in the game spawned out of a joke

  • @k1919danie
    @k1919danie 2 года назад +65

    TheMisterEpic: "it regained some of its legendary status and it became extremely rare once more"
    sb737: today we will find our 37th notch apple

  • @excalibur493
    @excalibur493 2 года назад +73

    I never knew about JTE, even though she did all of this amazing stuff to pioneer the multiplayer environment... she's a living legend.

  • @arenmee540
    @arenmee540 2 года назад +127

    10:25 There is one instance recorded in history with the real Notch. In the Minecraft Manhunt with Dream, GeorgeNotFound, and Notch about 2 years ago, It was shown that Notch dropped an apple after Dream killed him, but it wasn't mentioned because of the heat of the moment in the episode. The line of code seemed to be re-added on a later version.

    • @TopchetoEU
      @TopchetoEU 2 года назад +78

      You know dream would add a plugin for that, just for the clickbait, don't you

    • @arenmee540
      @arenmee540 2 года назад +45

      @@TopchetoEU That's a good point since the possibility is there! Here is my cheesy theory. If Dream added the plugin, he would know that Notch dropped an apple and say a line of "the legends are true, he does drop an apple". But in the video, it's as if he didn't know about it, so it's also a possibility that he didn't add a plugin. I'd like to reiterate, my theory isn't based on solid evidence rather just a shallow observation, but my stance on the subject would be that Dream didn't add a plugin for it.

    • @afk_killer4089
      @afk_killer4089 2 года назад +17

      @@arenmee540 dream is a huge liar tho

    • @mwang3875
      @mwang3875 2 года назад +14

      He probably just had an apple in his inventory prior

    • @arenmee540
      @arenmee540 2 года назад +22

      @@mwang3875 I rewatched the footage, first Notch was mostly chopping birch trees. (birch trees don't drop apples), and even if he did chop oak trees, he'd at least have some saplings on his death (because oak saplings drop more frequently than apples). There is a possibility that Notch could have looted the village and received some apples there, but it's the same case wherein the same chest usually has saplings generating with it whenever an apple is in the chest.
      Also when dropping multiple instances of an item, it appears in a stack form, but the apple in Notch's death was just a singular peice.
      Now a counter to these arguments would be that #1 Notch could have just thrown out the saplings cause he needed inventory space #2 Dream was able to pickup 1 apple even with the circumstances stated above. So It's likely Notch could have been able to pickup a singular apple as well.
      #3 manhunts are cut footage and single perspective, so Notch could gather stuff outside the screentime.
      #4 the multiple instances appearing as a single item could be a setting on paper and spigot servers where in they combine multiple instances into a 1 singular entity.
      The less nerdy and more joke way to perceive the event is that whether Notch had the apple in his inventory or not, technically the legend was true that Notch still dropped an apple on death.

  • @Lugiamasterbrony
    @Lugiamasterbrony 2 года назад +23

    This right here is why I steer clear of the forums. I feel bad that JTE was bullied off the community. Hopefully more and more people give her the recognition she deserves. It would be even better if Mojang themselves would give her the credit she deserves. Who knows? Maybe they will.

  • @Spiney09
    @Spiney09 2 года назад +17

    People have said JTE has seen this, wonder what it’s like to finally have your contributions to likely the most important game of the last decade finally recognized after so long? If you see this, being a beginner programmer and just starting learning networking and server stuff, you’ve got mad skills! You also likely made Antvenom’s career, while we’re at it.

  • @Rewwgh
    @Rewwgh 2 года назад +20

    Absolutely fantastic to see historical content like this. I consider myself a veteran in the game having joined around late Alpha-early Beta but some of this info is way older. True deep lore!

  • @AdrielDoesGaming
    @AdrielDoesGaming 2 года назад +26

    I feel bad for JTE, I wonder how is she doing now. She definitely deserves more credit for her work

  • @acerniss
    @acerniss Год назад +9

    We could only imagine how different the game would be now if only she had continued working with them. It’s sad how influential she could have been in the community, only to be forgotten.

  • @MrKrabs-rf7mn
    @MrKrabs-rf7mn Год назад +4

    Those classic servers are one of the strongest forms of nostalgia for me. I remember playing those in 2011-2012 as a 6-7 year old. Undoubtedly some timeless stuff for me.

  • @TheDuperTrooper
    @TheDuperTrooper 2 года назад +8

    Great video!

  • @99knightMC
    @99knightMC 2 года назад +5

    I’ve been playing since early 2011 and I’ve never heard of JTE before. It’s unbelievable how much she did for the community. I seriously don’t think Minecraft would have ever taken off like it did without her influence on the game, specifically with the multiplayer servers. Great video, I’m glad you shared this story.

  • @BunnyBoing
    @BunnyBoing 2 года назад +5

    8:34 i genuinely forgot what the video was about

  • @Varen2009
    @Varen2009 2 года назад +14

    XD she intentionaly trolled notch! Im absolute Sure. Imagine notch being constantly killed before they told him about the wiki.

  • @youweretrolled5342
    @youweretrolled5342 2 года назад +11

    So not only did she single handedly made a server that would lead to this community in the future also she gave the idea of 2 VERY helpful items in the entire game and she wasn't known to any of us at all she was even bullied off of the community. How sad reality can be sometimes I feel bad for JTE.(live your videos mister epic)

  • @pony_OwO
    @pony_OwO 2 года назад +12

    my memory is super fuzzy but I remember one time back when mindcrack was still around Etho uploaded a video which had Notch logged into the server and I remember him dying in it, no idea if you can see him drop an apple at all or not though.

    • @snailymitch
      @snailymitch 2 года назад +3

      I don't know about Etho but I do remember an episode by docm77 in season 4 that featured notch and he died a couple of times. I thought it might have the footage but when I looked it up it sadly was already past 1.3 so he didn't drop the apple

    • @BackyardFilms2
      @BackyardFilms2 2 года назад +1

      @@snailymitch to add to that dinnerbone told doc he thought he had left that code in

    • @BackyardFilms2
      @BackyardFilms2 2 года назад +1

      Episode 43 of season 4 of mind mindcrack on docs channel

  • @Saturn-OS
    @Saturn-OS 2 года назад +4

    You were talking about JTE for like half the video I forgot i was watching a video about how the golden apple was created or the truth behind it lol.

  • @tgx123mgjack8
    @tgx123mgjack8 2 года назад +8

    I am a veteran of Minecraft I really hope a lot of new people see this the poor thing needs to be remembered for what they did and we should all be grateful for how they shaped Minecraft

  • @raxleigh3981
    @raxleigh3981 2 года назад +5

    Loved the video, it was a lot more interesting than the title suggests, maybe a tweak is needed? I almost didn't watch and would have missed out on all that JTE stuff and the origin of server software. On that note, would love to see a history of Bukkit if you think it's interesting enough for a video!

  • @sircalvin
    @sircalvin Год назад +2

    i know this video is old, but i remember jtes recipe list! ive looked for it multiple times over the years, but i could never find it and assumed it was just lost to time. the last time i used it was probably over a decade ago and i was pretty young, so i never had any details but you have confirmed it was real! this means so much to me (way more than it probably should haha) and i cant thank you enough!

  • @TetraForceAC
    @TetraForceAC 2 года назад +8

    After watching some of your vids about minecraft in the past, I start to see how this game was brought to life by the players (not underappreciating the devs' hard work) and that may be why Mojang values the player community so much when it comes to updates and the like.

  • @bob6106
    @bob6106 2 года назад +23

    That video is awesome, thanks for teaching us that and making incredible videos, keep it up!

  • @ArthropodJay
    @ArthropodJay 2 года назад +11

    the JTE shit seems more like people were pissed that a woman was successful.

  • @deciding
    @deciding Год назад +1

    This is definitely my favorite video from you. The research that went behind this is crazy. Well done.

  • @ImFangzBro
    @ImFangzBro Год назад +2

    I'm happy she has SOMETHING to say "You see that? I made that." in official Minecraft. She deserves it.

  • @Amanda-mb9et
    @Amanda-mb9et 2 года назад +4

    "since there was no little book showing crafting recipes" made me feel old

  • @thealandude9146
    @thealandude9146 2 года назад +7

    Even if I don't really play these minigames, I'm glad that JTE pioneered many features that exists in the game and many servers

  • @Kynatosh
    @Kynatosh 2 года назад +8

    It pisses me off that such a talented individual as JTE was bullied off minecraft by some forum users. I really hope she's doing well in life

  • @Iliadic
    @Iliadic 2 года назад +7

    Actually 1.9 didn't nerf the Notch Apple, it made it WAY stronger, but removed its crafting recipe.

    • @FusionCyborg
      @FusionCyborg Год назад

      The Notch Apple's Regeneration IV (1.3.1 - 1.5.2) / V (1.6.1 - 1.8.9) healed 1 HP every 6 ticks and lasted 30 seconds (Adds up to 100HP healed)
      1.9 Changed Regeneration V for 30 seconds to Regeneration II for 20 seconds, which only healed 1HP every 25 ticks and added up to just 16HP healed.
      So no, 1.9 did nerf the Notch Apple.
      *(The Regeneration change in 1.6.1 had in practice no effect as it was to counter a nerf to low levels of Regeneration, or in other words Regeneration V in 1.6.1 was the same as Regeneration IV in 1.5.2.)

  • @EpicUwU_
    @EpicUwU_ 2 года назад +56

    "Nobody has killed notch in game"
    Apparently Dream did a manhunt thing with Notch and killed him there

    • @spottynaughty
      @spottynaughty 2 года назад +16

      he accually dropped an apple

    • @realo3503
      @realo3503 2 года назад +8

      @@spottynaughty I remember people saying that it was coded to do that I only remember this because it was around when I stopped watching him

    • @spottynaughty
      @spottynaughty 2 года назад +3

      @@realo3503 that could be true

    • @absolutelynot4261
      @absolutelynot4261 2 года назад +8

      The notch apple code was removed before then. They modded it back in

  • @eliad6543
    @eliad6543 2 года назад +9

    Incredible, please keep doing this.

  • @bluesillybeard
    @bluesillybeard 2 года назад +5

    0:46
    "sus amogus"
    LOL I didn't know Amogus was a thing back in 2010 xD

    • @MyCisLife
      @MyCisLife 2 года назад +1

      this is really new footage from the Betacraft and ClassiCube server ClassicalNuts

    • @bluesillybeard
      @bluesillybeard 2 года назад

      @@MyCisLife Figured

    • @bel37a
      @bel37a 2 года назад +1

      The only old server they actually showed was Au70, that's still on classicube.

    • @MyCisLife
      @MyCisLife 2 года назад

      @@bel37a yeah all the other ones are new

  • @yummychips_
    @yummychips_ Год назад +7

    this was really interesting. A long time ago, I heard about this, but never knew the details or the people involved. I just heard that some one was making a clone of the game, with customized options. Similar to how private servers came to be with other games. Didn't realize it was like this.
    Honestly, it feels like JTE was probably pretty close to notch, close enough to make jokes, memes, and easter eggs. It really seems like JTE probably had way better understanding of running the code, but also really liked Notches concept. Notch IIRC just wanted people to play in a world where they can do anything. This story seems like JTE wanted to reinforce that idea and expand on it.
    Really sucks she/he got bullied off the forums. Who knows though, maybe JTE always stuck around, and continued to work alongside notch. Maybe when windows did their aquisition, they probably wanted she/he to come along to. Might have changed names, or stays in the back quietly? Or maybe probably just plays the game on their own.
    Dark side though, maybe what JTE unleashed is actually horrible. While not a free version of minecraft with more updates, but the server side options. Stuff that has made those dreadful p2w scam servers. Servers that are out to make money off of people, and not actually provide the experience notch intended.
    I feel like there probably is more to this story, but since its so old, who actually knows what happens.

  • @Respectable_Username
    @Respectable_Username 2 года назад +7

    Seems like it would have been easier to just hire her and get her to officially help speed up Minecraft's development rather than let her be bullied off the forums

  • @Blue-wh7mz
    @Blue-wh7mz 2 года назад +5

    I missed the old golden apple texture theyre soo smooth looking

  • @cassyettetape
    @cassyettetape 2 года назад

    It’s very interesting to me as a player who began her experience with Minecraft while survival was in its early Alpha phase. Seeing how completely different this 2009 multiplayer community was than the one I would end up interacting with from 2010. I had never heard of JTE, but it seems like she paved a way for a lot of stuff that would be forgotten even by the time I began.

  • @somerandombub
    @somerandombub 2 года назад +7

    As a member of that community, I wish you would have made some small shoutout to ClassiCube which was used for much of the footage here, or at least put it in the description.

  • @connortremblay1259
    @connortremblay1259 2 года назад +5

    Wow, I can't believe that a couple of power high forum admins bullied somebody so incredible and influential out of the community. Truly despicable. I just can't even believe how somebody could be so unfulfilled in their own life that they harass a modder on somebody else's behalf when that somebody else made no mention that they didn't approve.

  • @JamesTDG
    @JamesTDG 2 года назад +4

    Man I hope this video helps encourage people to get Mojang to recognize the scope of jte's work upon Minecraft's mp community

  • @GladlyOnXbox
    @GladlyOnXbox 2 года назад +3

    minecraft was really a an outstanding game and it really always will be, it touched and changed so many people for years and will for many years to come and i’m glad we have people to record the history of this amazing community

  • @lugiamastero13
    @lugiamastero13 Год назад +1

    It's amazing that even today like literally years and years later I learn more about Minecrafts past I though I knew a lot despite missing out till around 2017 when I finally could afford the game I had no idea about JTE at all but I am grateful for her contribution now though I wish the current heads of Minecraft could give proper recognition for her work on the game that helped shape it to what we have now in some shape or form

  • @paxdamaxgaming4920
    @paxdamaxgaming4920 2 года назад +8

    No joke I found two god apples in one dungeon chest yesterday

  • @vampire_juicebox
    @vampire_juicebox 2 года назад +17

    Could have sworn, sometime around 2013 or 2014, I came across a youtube video that seemed genuine of Notch being killed on a server and dropping an apple. The video itself was definitely uploaded before then, and it looked like it was probably from beta era. All I remember of what actually happened in the video is Notch getting killed by the person recording and dropping an apple and then maybe saying something in chat. The part I most remember, for whatever reason, was the setting. They were inside a building made of white wool and there was a lower area with stairs leading down and a railing made of glass panes because there was a ledge.
    Does anyone else remember seeing this video or know what I'm talking about? A part of me doubts this isn't just something I dreamed and this might just be a repeat of Body Harvest Moon, but the image is so vivid in my mind that I don't know if I could even have dreamt that.

    • @scrhh
      @scrhh 2 года назад +2

      maybe it was this video? ruclips.net/video/5fi3zkOgGlg/видео.html the setting at 5:30 does sound similar, and your brain mightve changed a bit of the details

    • @vampire_juicebox
      @vampire_juicebox 2 года назад

      @@scrhh It's not exactly what I remember, but my memory is so bad, this might be the video I saw. Thank you!

    • @steven_parody
      @steven_parody Год назад

      I have a friend who killed notch 11 years ago. Good times.

  • @Devil914
    @Devil914 Год назад +2

    Thank you JTE. THANK YOU. You did amazing work, I'm sorry those that were there for it turned you down. They didn't know what this have was going to turn into.

  • @TheCJBrine
    @TheCJBrine 2 года назад +1

    Dang, I knew of the “Notch drops apples” thing but didn’t know this other stuff, that’s pretty cool. I started a bit too late to learn about JTE I guess, since I started on Beta 1.5 in 2011. She sounds cool, her contributions to the game are great; sucks what happened to her on the forum, hope she’s doing good.

  • @spencercarruth9706
    @spencercarruth9706 2 года назад +8

    I’m *fairly* certain that a member of Mindcrack accidentally killed Notch when he joined them for a special several years ago, but I don’t remember what season it was.

    • @NotTheGaslighter
      @NotTheGaslighter 2 года назад +3

      This was the episode where Etho and Doc were finishing their perimeter and invited Notch on to finish off the last few blocks, if that helps

    • @BackyardFilms2
      @BackyardFilms2 2 года назад +1

      It was season 4 episode 43 on docs channel and no apple dropped but dinnerbone was surprised because he thought he left that code in

  • @mromg8282
    @mromg8282 2 года назад +6

    So we most likely missed on a giant super server because of some toxic forum mods... nice.

  • @Corvidtorious
    @Corvidtorious Год назад +1

    JTE: "My server can handle lava floods."
    Notch: "Is that right?"

  • @MeatGoblin88
    @MeatGoblin88 Год назад +2

    8:09 lmao that banner is the most 2009 thing ever

  • @OMGitzDegree
    @OMGitzDegree 2 года назад +5

    I played when it was craftable left the game for a 3 years came back and figured out I couldn’t craft it anymore :(

  • @ramaahiara
    @ramaahiara Год назад +8

    I bet that if JTE wasnt a woman, she would have been hated way less, just because most people get mad when women tries to do great thing while being apprecciated, if she was a guy i bet the admins would be like “woah congrats man”

  • @WrittenOffski
    @WrittenOffski 2 года назад +1

    Seeing the Super Duper Graphics Pack screenshot being used in the thumbnail hits the feels. Wonder if we'll ever see console shaders, it looked so good.

  • @Berny747
    @Berny747 2 года назад +3

    i was so into the JTE story that i honestly forgot about the golden apple lmao

  • @macarooni4023
    @macarooni4023 2 года назад +18

    It’s sad this happened so much lost potential I wished she could’ve stuck around and brought so much more to the community. Notch let his jealously and pride get in the way she would have been amazing to have on his team

    • @macarooni4023
      @macarooni4023 2 года назад +5

      it’s also pretty gross that notch more or less took her ideas work copied it got the glory and such without giving back in the slightest shows how women in these industry are treated

    • @AudioEsoterixxx
      @AudioEsoterixxx Год назад +4

      it wasnt notch. did you watch the video?

  • @oiGST
    @oiGST Год назад

    From what I remember early versions of modded even had lots of similar drama where mod devs wanted all the credit for their work and some modpack creators didnt give them that credit and a lot of drama happened because of that. Mainly Tekkit packs around 1.2.5-1.6.4 but apparently no one in mc wanted to work together to make something great they all wanted to have a piece of the cake.

  • @wbwbc89
    @wbwbc89 Год назад +1

    We actually do have legitimate footage of Notch dropping an apple upon death, Notch was in one of Dream's videos a big ago and at some point in it he dies, you can see an apple drop from him along with his inventory

  • @davidriha
    @davidriha 2 года назад +40

    I thought I recalled Notch dropping an apple in the video that Dream, of all people, made about the manhunt with Notch.

  • @Miss_Trillium
    @Miss_Trillium 2 года назад +9

    I see you refer to JTE as a woman, but old forum posts and some people on here say she's a man? Did she come out as trans, or was her gender just not known? (I'm a trans woman and love learning about fellow trans people)(haters will be blocked)

    • @JessieEchidna
      @JessieEchidna 2 года назад +10

      Roughly 2008 was the turning point where JTE started referring to herself as female, largely because it made her feel more relaxed and less likely to get into big heated arguments on Internet forums. Nowadays she barely even refers to herself as "JTE" anymore, to try and distance herself from that past. Usually I'm just some quiet, generic, programming catgirl, hiding in the background, instead. The less people can find me, the better, I think. :3

    • @Miss_Trillium
      @Miss_Trillium 2 года назад +2

      @@JessieEchidna well it's cool to know that she was able to grow into herself, that's a wonderful thing. I wonder what she's up to these days? Also, big shout out to Mister Epic for getting it right--I'm glad to know he supports us. I just hope she's doing alright. Now that I've typed enough text I'm hoping that the algorithm is going to do its thing. But holy heck are you actually her? That's amazing

    • @JessieEchidna
      @JessieEchidna 2 года назад +4

      @@Miss_Trillium Algorithm triggered, got your message, hi. :P Yes, it me. I'm still JTE on Minecraft mainly because 3 letter names are rare and impossible to claim nowadays, lol. I've been up to a whole bunch of things since then, programming interesting things in smol communities before they grow too big for me. Won the first Pico-8 Jam, programmed all the fancy things like Lua scripting, skyboxes, advanced bosses, and race ghosts into SRB2 before SRB2Kart got picked up by streamers, uhh currently modding Rivals of Aether after datamining the heck out of it to push their mod scripting API to its limits.

    • @sloweia
      @sloweia 2 года назад +1

      @@JessieEchidna so cool to see trans people in mc history video. glad you're alright🧡

  • @OopstheTurkey
    @OopstheTurkey 2 года назад

    I was busy all yesterday and couldn’t watch this when it came out. I am happy to say though it was worth the wait!

  • @jadedstonedmonkey
    @jadedstonedmonkey Год назад +1

    I remember the lava flood mini game god that feels like such a long time ago

  • @_Tzer
    @_Tzer Год назад +3

    Tbf jte should have an entire page on the minecraft wiki as a testament to their legacy

  • @Scammers-Suck
    @Scammers-Suck Год назад +3

    Imagine being a "griefer" what a sad life it must be taking joy away from people who earned they're happiness in a good way.

  • @bradcarlton9103
    @bradcarlton9103 2 года назад

    5:43 I like this MCPE soundtrack , I love this channel everytime you upload a video , the nostalgia appeared ( bad english)

  • @neethsuesvoldar3865
    @neethsuesvoldar3865 2 года назад

    My current survival world is old like nearly 4 years old I remember hearing they would be taking the crafting of enchanted golden apples so I spent days gathering gold together to make as many of them as possible before it updated it's kind of a love/hate that they took the crafting out but it makes them so much more valuable and makes The Thing banner a more valuable item I mean if your the only one in a server for weeks or months that's managed to find an enchanted golden apple maybe 2 and decided to make a banner out of one Yea people might hit you up for a thing banner it's kinda neat the little trading systems players can make for the more rare items I'm hoping soon they will start adding even more rare items that can be traded around like this

  • @clarethecat5199
    @clarethecat5199 2 года назад +7

    JTE should start a RUclips channel! I'd love to see what kind of magic she's able to do :D

    • @hexogramd8430
      @hexogramd8430 2 года назад

      She does have a channel although it’s just playing games

    • @JessieEchidna
      @JessieEchidna 2 года назад +19

      What should be on it? Mmm, I suppose I really should bother making "trailers" for the things I produce more often.

    • @xxvii9476
      @xxvii9476 Год назад

      @@JessieEchidna hi

  • @ethanbroussard
    @ethanbroussard 2 года назад +5

    Dream did actually make a video with Notch and killed him, but I don't thing he dropped an apple (the video is now unlisted because of people wanting to cancel Notch, but you can probably fine a re-upload)
    Also the video was way after 1.3.1 but it's still kinda cool

    • @tungstentatertot8623
      @tungstentatertot8623 2 года назад

      I’m pretty sure he did drop an apple

    • @kirakirsch8991
      @kirakirsch8991 2 года назад +3

      you can see how he drops an apple for like 2 frames

    • @scriptrixdeo
      @scriptrixdeo 2 года назад +2

      Is that seriously why it was unlisted? Jeeeez. People are insufferable.

    • @GumSkyloard
      @GumSkyloard 2 года назад

      @@scriptrixdeo He literally talked about shooting trans people..

  • @minecraftgigachad9368
    @minecraftgigachad9368 2 года назад

    You just posted quality, you have gained subscriber

  • @ToxicMothBoi
    @ToxicMothBoi 2 года назад +1

    Jeff😌
    Amazing video! I remember jte but only got to hear about her about 3 years after her first server launched so i was a bit late.

  • @projectember728
    @projectember728 2 года назад +4

    It’s hard to get back into Minecraft
    I feel like I’ve lost the enthusiasm and energy to play it
    No friends who are online to play with
    Bad internet on multiplayer servers
    I don’t know what to do anymore:(

    • @mhausage3454
      @mhausage3454 2 года назад +6

      Don't worry bro. Move on to some other games instead. If not enjoying it you can't force yourself to enjoy it. Sooner or later, you would miss playing minecraft and want to play it again. Just give yourself some time alright?

    • @projectember728
      @projectember728 2 года назад +1

      @@mhausage3454 you are right
      Thanks for opening my eyes
      I’m just gonna stick to what I enjoy

    • @projectember728
      @projectember728 2 года назад +1

      I want to make videos I enjoy but I’m forced to make ones that I absolutely despise
      I will go in my direction
      At least I will be happy that way:)

  • @jujhar.
    @jujhar. 2 года назад +8

    JTE, a true legend 👏

  • @ghost_ship_supreme
    @ghost_ship_supreme Год назад

    I loved zombie tag and lava survival, and all those classic gamemodes! I used to play them all the time in the browser. I’m even in a few old RUclips videos here and there I occasionally see. If it weren’t for those gamemodes, I may have never played Minecraft for over a decade now!

  • @tunafeesh
    @tunafeesh Год назад +2

    It would be awesome to have JTE do an interview, or if she would join Mojang to work on new MC updates.

  • @psyxypher3881
    @psyxypher3881 2 года назад +11

    I'm still all for making God Apples craftable again.
    A funny thing about video game economics is that making a consumable item exceedingly rare makes it practically worthless.

    • @griggorirasputin6555
      @griggorirasputin6555 Год назад

      They seem much less rare now, being a somewhat common find in certain chests, but that's only from what i've seen

    • @michaellautermilch9185
      @michaellautermilch9185 Год назад

      I 100% agree, the crafting recipe wasn't cheap either!! 8 gold blocks is a lot.

  • @Niknokinater
    @Niknokinater 2 года назад +4

    Notch Apple? More like JTE Apple ^^