@@sumeets3155 Idiot, they test it with a 50 drop test to ensure that it'll withstand the force of the weight that'll be put on it. Not to mention, each competitor has a good 30 secs to get the lift, if they each try 2-3 times, the bar needs to survive the punishment. Not to mention, bad business to build a bar that only can withstand single digit lifts for an entire competition. Can't have the bar breaking in half while someone is trying to lift it and possibly get injured. Think before you speak, moron.
I mean, Suppose you know the definition. Now you're being naive. And also, Good job catching the bait that is my thumbnail, making yourself look like an idiot.
I just want to add my two cents to those asking that Rogue consider making the Arnold 45's commercially available, even if on a special you-order-'em-then we make-'em basis. A rough guesstimate is that it takes about 3 man-months to make 2 dozen of these plates. Selling or auctioning the plates after the contest would be one way for Rogue to recoup the cost of making these pieces of art. These will be as collectible as the Inch Dumbell or Spiderman #1!
@@ashtonw9931 You forgot machine time. A cnc mill of this size usually costs at least 200K if its a cheap one. The one rogue uses is probably not too expensive, because their machining tolerances are pretty big, but this is probably still a 300K machine. On top of that you also have the cost of consumables, so inserts and endmills.
@@obi-wankenobi9871 they're using a haas. Looks like a vf, probably around 75k-100k depending on the bells and whistles. It's not mori seiki, which are $500k upwards. Also, those machines are almost definitely used for more than just plates. And they definitely have more than one machine. They wouldn't be making any of these things if it was at an overall loss. Also, tbh, when you run a cnc mill, other than doing the setup and then your first trial run, you can do other things to keep busy, otherwise it'd be miserable, since watching coolant fly is like watching paint dry.
@@happyarewewhosmile You dont really tell me something new here. Still doesnt change anything about their pricing being retarded. You wouldnt pay extra for a bolt, just because it has been filed with a golden file, would you? Rogue either suck at small production runs or just pulled the price straight out of their ass.
@@ashtonw9931 the price doesnt matter since there will be people that would pay for it. The problem is rogue doesnt want to sell them so they are more exclusive and special. Once it's in public hands it's no longer special.
Rogue Fitness: I believe you are mis-understanding some of the comments. I believe some people are asking about buying the specific bar and plates used at the Arnold itself. Not copies. Is there a plan to sell/auction the World Record bar and plates?
I would imagine they would be extremely expensive. When I was working as a junior machinist for a gunsmiths I was on about £25/hr and it sounds like each plate takes about 12 hours to make, add material costs etc and markup for profit margins your looking at £500 per plate, maybe more.
during the part of the video where they are dropping the bar over and over, they go to a slow mo shot. you can actually see the bar show a sign of weightlessness for a brief second, when the bar is being dropped the bar is bent in a downward angle as its dropped the bar falls but at the same time the flex of the bar rebounds causing the ends of the bar to rise there is a split second when the momentum of the weights rebounding up and the bar dropping down meet and the bar actually freezes in mid air. interesting concept and physics behind this. with they had like the slow mo guys there to do some crazy shots .
I have the commercial version of those plates. They are on the wall for show and I use the normal rogue deep dish plates for workouts. They look great even if they are black and not bare steel.
3:15.., lucky to get one machined in a 12 hour shift?.., I worked in aerospace benching wing ribs for the airbus A380 and A320.., dozens if intricate pockets, feet and angles and was about 8 feet long.., it took "4 hours" to machine each rib from billet to the deburring stage.., I suggest you turn up the RPM on your CNC machines.., I could make one of those plates from billet stage with a dremmel in under 12 hours.
If you haven't milled with that make and model of machine, then you cant say what its capacity is. I've worked on several cutting machines and they all had different max speeds.
How is the difficulty compared to the standard 7ft bars you mentioned? Eddie Hall seemed to have an easier time with his 500kg deadlift than on the Elephant bar. Is there a reason for that?
The bar comes alive man ...there is a horizontal movement in the bar itself and each plate kinda lifts up separately and the bar is too long...hence you have to give more power than an Olympic barbell Eddie used for 500kg...
I was unfamiliar with this whole thing and knew of no manufacturer names but catching a glimpse of these striking plates made me do some research and brought me here. One rookie question, isn't a bendier bar easier to lift because it eases the initial part of the lift? I see that the final part of the lift seems to be the decisive, harder part, but the athlete will have more remaining energy if the initial part is made easier (you're not lifting the whole weight for the first 10 inches).
+Rainier Corral I believe I've read that back in his prime, his best was 715lbs. I may be off a bit, but I'm fairly certain that was his best DL back in the day.
You're correct. There are pictures online of him lifting over 700 lbs on a "standard" bar (plates with 1" or 1 1/16" diameter holes), which means the contestants had to start much lower & closer to the floor. Pretty impressive.
Really bendy bars make getting the weight up harder. Which is why powerlifting uses real stiff ones. Olympic lifting tends to prefer bendy ones because you can use the whippy-ness to your advantage.
Damn those plates are nice. I would love to buy a pair of them to hang on my garage gym wall. but Rogue would probably have to sell each plate for $1,200+ just to make a little profit. Still, even at that price Rogue could definitely sell a couple hundred of them.
Its ridiculous. Someone was buying my old plate set and was like, how close are they. I asked what he meant, and he said many plate sets can be up to 2 lbs different and mentioned rogue plates. I weighted my 45s and they were both 45.2, part of a really old CAP set. Seems like Rogue has people eating up their marketing bullshit.
Do these guys not know how to business? If it costs $1,000 to produce each plate then charge that. If it costs $50,000 to produce each plate then charge that. If it costs $340,000 to produce each plate then charge that. If it costs $60,000,000 to produce each plate then charge that. This is complicated?
I'm pretty sure they do, and you don't, idiot. Do you really think economics are that simple, and that the factory has unlimited resources? Do you think that the machine can make these time consuming plates along side normal plates that they actually get sales for? So ignorant that it's pathetic
Arnold Classic--Strongman....Wait a minute...Arnold was a bodybuilder...HEH...should call the Strongman contest the THOR Classic :) Or, whom ever has won the most Strongman's. Brian Shaw? "Shaw Classic"...makes more sense to me. :) The "Arnold Classic" should stick to bodybuilding. For Fitness...O'Hearn Classic. Women's Bikini--______...
It puts these guys strength into perspective when you see they have to use a forklift to pick up that weight.
Even if it wasn't that heavy would you expect them to manually lift it and drop it 50 times?
Michael Phillips when working you have to give least amount of weight in order to keep good health of employees
Cthulhu _ exactly
Idiot.. who is gonna lift that 50 times?
@@sumeets3155 Idiot, they test it with a 50 drop test to ensure that it'll withstand the force of the weight that'll be put on it. Not to mention, each competitor has a good 30 secs to get the lift, if they each try 2-3 times, the bar needs to survive the punishment. Not to mention, bad business to build a bar that only can withstand single digit lifts for an entire competition. Can't have the bar breaking in half while someone is trying to lift it and possibly get injured. Think before you speak, moron.
Those plates look incredible. Would love to get hold of a pair of them.
Eric Cartman I can add them to my 7 plate deadlift brah!
Welcome good troll.
Hell yeah, imagine bringing those plates into a commercial gym... Damn you'll get looks
Well someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed. There's no reason to be aggressive, you ignorant little bitch.
I mean, Suppose you know the definition. Now you're being naive. And also, Good job catching the bait that is my thumbnail, making yourself look like an idiot.
I just want to add my two cents to those asking that Rogue consider making the Arnold 45's commercially available, even if on a special you-order-'em-then we make-'em basis. A rough guesstimate is that it takes about 3 man-months to make 2 dozen of these plates. Selling or auctioning the plates after the contest would be one way for Rogue to recoup the cost of making these pieces of art. These will be as collectible as the Inch Dumbell or Spiderman #1!
@@ashtonw9931 You forgot machine time. A cnc mill of this size usually costs at least 200K if its a cheap one. The one rogue uses is probably not too expensive, because their machining tolerances are pretty big, but this is probably still a 300K machine.
On top of that you also have the cost of consumables, so inserts and endmills.
@@obi-wankenobi9871 they're using a haas. Looks like a vf, probably around 75k-100k depending on the bells and whistles. It's not mori seiki, which are $500k upwards. Also, those machines are almost definitely used for more than just plates. And they definitely have more than one machine. They wouldn't be making any of these things if it was at an overall loss.
Also, tbh, when you run a cnc mill, other than doing the setup and then your first trial run, you can do other things to keep busy, otherwise it'd be miserable, since watching coolant fly is like watching paint dry.
@@happyarewewhosmile You dont really tell me something new here. Still doesnt change anything about their pricing being retarded. You wouldnt pay extra for a bolt, just because it has been filed with a golden file, would you?
Rogue either suck at small production runs or just pulled the price straight out of their ass.
@@ashtonw9931 the price doesnt matter since there will be people that would pay for it. The problem is rogue doesnt want to sell them so they are more exclusive and special. Once it's in public hands it's no longer special.
I want one. Let me buy one right now. This is where the RUclips rabbit hole of COVID19 has led me so far. enjoy everyone
beautiful. I wish I could work for rogue. what they're doing for the strongman community is amazing
damn...those plates look sexy as hell....
Agreed
If only they sold them as a part of their regular production run.
they would be sweet to own but they are too deep, they would have to be a little smaller
Connor Sandberg Not if you owned an elephant bar. Rogue would make a killing selling this combo.
Yeah, sure. When 1 single plate takes a day to make, prepare to wreck your wallet
Hands down, without a doubt, the most gorgeous loaded barbell i have ever seen!!
Rogue Fitness: I believe you are mis-understanding some of the comments. I believe some people are asking about buying the specific bar and plates used at the Arnold itself. Not copies. Is there a plan to sell/auction the World Record bar and plates?
i want those plates soooo bad
Eric Cartman everyone could lift at least 2 a side for a deadlift so he could
Eric Cartman they're just 45's wtf
I would imagine they would be extremely expensive. When I was working as a junior machinist for a gunsmiths I was on about £25/hr and it sounds like each plate takes about 12 hours to make, add material costs etc and markup for profit margins your looking at £500 per plate, maybe more.
@@Outland9000 Manufacturing is 2k a plate
Rogue ty for such great shows with CrossFit and The Arnold, also your products are top notch, highly recommend
All I want for Christmas is two Arnold plates.
beautiful 45s!! 😍
during the part of the video where they are dropping the bar over and over, they go to a slow mo shot. you can actually see the bar show a sign of weightlessness for a brief second, when the bar is being dropped the bar is bent in a downward angle as its dropped the bar falls but at the same time the flex of the bar rebounds causing the ends of the bar to rise there is a split second when the momentum of the weights rebounding up and the bar dropping down meet and the bar actually freezes in mid air. interesting concept and physics behind this. with they had like the slow mo guys there to do some crazy shots .
I remember seeing Eddie inch that bar up on the BORN STRONG documentary, it was so inspiring and awesome.
the bar and weight plates are pure class AAA art work
I think working at Rogue would have to be a cool job.
This video is made so well
best looking plates I have ever seen !!!
I have the commercial version of those plates. They are on the wall for show and I use the normal rogue deep dish plates for workouts. They look great even if they are black and not bare steel.
Is the elephant bar going to be up for sale?
I operate Haas and Mazak mills and lathes similar to those in the video every day, but I never make anything as interesting as these bars or plates.
Great company and I am one of their happy customers
Them 45s are awesome specially with arnold classic on them
Eddie hall deadlifted more than this machine lol
Probably Eddie Hall owns an Elephant bar for just a remembrance for his worldrecord.
@@jarenmontaos5195 people responding after 4 years feels weird
@@eutiger4789 it's the internet. Time is relative here.
is the distance between the collars greater as well on this bar? or just the sleeves
3:15.., lucky to get one machined in a 12 hour shift?.., I worked in aerospace benching wing ribs for the airbus A380 and A320.., dozens if intricate pockets, feet and angles and was about 8 feet long.., it took "4 hours" to machine each rib from billet to the deburring stage.., I suggest you turn up the RPM on your CNC machines.., I could make one of those plates from billet stage with a dremmel in under 12 hours.
If you haven't milled with that make and model of machine, then you cant say what its capacity is. I've worked on several cutting machines and they all had different max speeds.
How is the difficulty compared to the standard 7ft bars you mentioned? Eddie Hall seemed to have an easier time with his 500kg deadlift than on the Elephant bar. Is there a reason for that?
Yes, not all of the plates leave the floor at the same time. Ends are still touching while the inside is an inch off the floor.
The bar comes alive man ...there is a horizontal movement in the bar itself and each plate kinda lifts up separately and the bar is too long...hence you have to give more power than an Olympic barbell Eddie used for 500kg...
R.I.P terry Todd
rip🙏
Btw, love your name and pfp lol 😂😂
That was so awesome!
I was unfamiliar with this whole thing and knew of no manufacturer names but catching a glimpse of these striking plates made me do some research and brought me here. One rookie question, isn't a bendier bar easier to lift because it eases the initial part of the lift? I see that the final part of the lift seems to be the decisive, harder part, but the athlete will have more remaining energy if the initial part is made easier (you're not lifting the whole weight for the first 10 inches).
Correct
Very nice plates
Obvious inspiration from Zuver's. Terry Todd especially is very familiar with Zuver's. These are insanely cool. I need some.
Good observation. Their width is similar to York's "deep dish" plates & the inside pattern is similar to Zuver's.
You guys may know, how did weightlifting get standardized on 45 lb plates?
Those plates make me want to build my own home gym, but I know these will be nothing more than double the weight.... I’m digging the deep dish
what happends with all the scrap metal they lose in the process?
Do you have shop/dealership in India?
Rogue you need to upgrade that machining process. Get a cool air blast and a high feed mill for roughing and you will make 4 of those plates a shift
dose the bar weigh the same as a normal bar
Rolando Hernandez no
Rolando Hernandez raw Elephant bar wheight like a regula OL/PL bar with collars if my memory is good. and exist squat bars heavier
the bar was made so strongman would break the 1000lb barrier / make the Arnold the biggest baddest best event.
FYI. Link in the description does not work.
I'm curious to how much Arnold can do
+Rainier Corral I believe I've read that back in his prime, his best was 715lbs. I may be off a bit, but I'm fairly certain that was his best DL back in the day.
You're correct. There are pictures online of him lifting over 700 lbs on a "standard" bar (plates with 1" or 1 1/16" diameter holes), which means the contestants had to start much lower & closer to the floor. Pretty impressive.
Really bendy bars make getting the weight up harder. Which is why powerlifting uses real stiff ones.
Olympic lifting tends to prefer bendy ones because you can use the whippy-ness to your advantage.
great steel !
Osea que esa barra mide casi 4 metros de largo?
Damn those plates are nice. I would love to buy a pair of them to hang on my garage gym wall. but Rogue would probably have to sell each plate for $1,200+ just to make a little profit. Still, even at that price Rogue could definitely sell a couple hundred of them.
I’m not a vain man, but I want a set of these plates for my garage.
Please for the love of god sell me the Arnold plates!!
I want one of those plates for a decoration in my garage.
do rogue sell this bar?
dam those plates are so purdy
HOW HEAVY IS IT????
RIP, Dr. Todd
wouldnt casting them be faster?
Were can i buy this plate?
+DEADSKULL GLITCHER For now these were just a one-off for the Arnold. Perhaps in the future we'll release another run of them!
Rogue Fitness please do so. I would like to have one for a garage wall hanger. Even if it's a cast not a billet plate.
The one bar that NO ONE can get.
True. But in actuality it's just a big deadlift bar.
@@bmstylee Not to mention those plates.
ROGUE...make those plates available to the public!!! :) I'm sure they would sell like "hot cakes". :))
rogue use best steels ex aequo Uesaka or Eleiko
I wish I could be a machinist for rogue fitness
R.I.P Dr. Terry Todd
2:21 dammmmmmmm
Its funny how the Arnold takes Strongman events with more seriousness and genuinity than WSM itself. Especially after this years WSM smh.
I hope your company is bonded.
Real interrest of this bar... Possibility to do heavy Deadlifts WITHOUTH USE STEEL PLATES... just with regular bumpers
where is big z
Standing next to Big Y.
Why not just use a deadlift bar and kilo plates?
Boring, dumbass.
@@massivehero4871 Retarded claim. Why can some do more on a standard bar and others do more on an elephant bar?
0:12 almost all.... ALMOST. Not most all....
Not actually correct...
If only the public had access to the elephant bar. 😔
musin babel i arumdapnya. mon mal in ji moruji? kkkk
2:29... it would have made more sense to use the thinner plates...
Dumbass, pay fucking attention for their reasoning...
Arnold should use normal sized plates so people get perspective. Don't need show bars, everyone in the crowd knows 460kg big without some wheels
God dam then plates are nice
You should do a free product give away
I want this barbell so baaaad....
These are the sexiest looking plates I've laid eyes on 🤤
Мечта....
safety first
hermoso!! :'3
They made a deadlift bar
Dumbass...
A barbell with less than a mm give when loaded with 1100lbs would be great also!
Harri Rifhad Nope.Nope.
Should of called it the destroyer because it injures so much people💀
What if Goku was there?
Not one of the workers is a gym guy
Who's here from Garage Gym Reviews?
Seems awfully inefficient to make a 45lb plate for these guys out of a 190lb slug.....
Its ridiculous. Someone was buying my old plate set and was like, how close are they. I asked what he meant, and he said many plate sets can be up to 2 lbs different and mentioned rogue plates. I weighted my 45s and they were both 45.2, part of a really old CAP set. Seems like Rogue has people eating up their marketing bullshit.
@@capedude465 How the fuck is that marketing, dumbass? Every company has a certain accepted weight range for non calibrated plates...
It is....
An my back hurts after a 315 lb deadlift fml
correct your form
Sell these plates!!
Enough of the clapping already. Let's hear the people.
1 plate done every 12 hours? Lol what?
They are masters in creating a bunch of waste to push their marketing garbage
We dont care about this just use the regular bar and have someone go after eddies 500....
buena marca..pero lamentablemente a perdido seriedad por culpa de los tontitos del crossfit...
$$$$$$
Do these guys not know how to business? If it costs $1,000 to produce each plate then charge that. If it costs $50,000 to produce each plate then charge that. If it costs $340,000 to produce each plate then charge that. If it costs $60,000,000 to produce each plate then charge that. This is complicated?
I'm pretty sure they do, and you don't, idiot. Do you really think economics are that simple, and that the factory has unlimited resources? Do you think that the machine can make these time consuming plates along side normal plates that they actually get sales for? So ignorant that it's pathetic
Jimmy, you're an absolute idiot.
Arnold Classic--Strongman....Wait a minute...Arnold was a bodybuilder...HEH...should call the Strongman contest the THOR Classic :) Or, whom ever has won the most Strongman's. Brian Shaw? "Shaw Classic"...makes more sense to me. :) The "Arnold Classic" should stick to bodybuilding. For Fitness...O'Hearn Classic. Women's Bikini--______...
What a waste of material!!
Idiot...