Totally think the kabuki are the best plates from a looks and utility standpoint. I wish kabuki still made these plates. Great review. Good to see you putting out new videos again! Even though this one is an “oldie” it’s a goodie.
Thank you for all the effort you put into the video. You answered all of the questions I had brewing in my mind. If you’re looking to offload any of those Rogue plates let me know lol
Ha! I will. It’s funny because this is part of the hard part for me. I tend to get attached to equipment and running this channel has taught me that it’s fine to get attached to a few things but realistically if I want new content I need to learn to let things go, even if I live them.
I’m new to the whole home gym deal and I only know of CAP and Rogue. I have 5’s and 10’s from CAP but I own 25’s, 35’s and I’m waiting on 45’s from Rogue. I absolutely love my Rogue plates as the don’t feel used and grimy like the plates from a commercial gym. I may look into Kabuki as they seem to make me curious... They may not look as good as Rogue plates but they are still a nice looking plate. Also curious why the hate for 35’s? Maybe I’d understand if it was normal times but considering the pandemic is still going on strong I see them as useful. Especially if I load em with two 10’s on each side. Gives me the 45 I need until I get my 45’s... Plus I like going up in increments so the more plates in various weights the better for me I say!
In my opinion, 35 lb plates serve no real purpose in a gym with weights that don’t go to 55 lbs. most steel plates at 45 lbs don’t require a 35 because of the existence of 10, 5, and 2.5 lb plates. You can incrementally load from 25-40 and viola! The next jump would be a 45 lb plate. 35 lb plates cost more per lb and I want to stress that this is an opinion, but they aren’t worth the cost. I would rather just have another set of 45s. As for the rogue vs kabuki. I prefer the look and feel of the Kabuki plates, but the rogues are much more refined. I think that makes them more difficult to use in my sport of strongman. Either way you’re getting an excellent plate. With the pandemic ongoing and plate shortages continuing, Kabuki Strength has done an excellent job of keeping their lead times low on plates and keeping them available. The main discriminator will likely end up being shipping costs between rogue and kabuki as well as availability. Thank you for watching and commenting. The garage gym community is awesome!
One more thing I forgot. The Rogue plates are the first true “ deep dish” plates to be manufactured in at least half a century. I know a lot of recently made plates call themselves “ deep dish” but they aren’t quite there. My Hampton 45 lb. plates are 1 3/4” wide which I would say is at the minimum width to be considered “ deep dish”.
I like both KABUKI and ROGUE. The deciding factor for me was ,KABUKI was 2700.00 to ship 2700.00 dollars in plates for a total of 5400.00 dollars. I purchased 4-100, 14-45s, 4-35s, 6-25s plates from ROGUE and got HUNDO pricing, only paid 543.00 in shipping. Bought 140lbs of change plates from The Strength Company in CA and paid 123.00 for shipping. I live on the east coast so made sense to go with ROGUE for the shipping savings.
I'm looking at doing the same thing. Buying the Rogues coupled with Strength Co. change plates. I'm in the Midwest and Kabuki's shipping is insane. Strength Co has high shipping too, but not as severe as Kabuki.
@@TheKurtlocker I didn't realize they had the deep dish plates. Just checked them out and loaded up the cart for comparison and I can get the Rogue's for around $115.00 less even with shipping. I'm going to pull the trigger on the Rogue's.
Wow! Legit review! Those Kabuki's are growing on me. I like the fact that they are recycled and made here. I actually like that matte black finish too. The Rogue plates are still 💯 legit too thou. I dont think you can go wrong with either brand.
That review could not be more thorough! You covered any possible concern of question. I ordered the Rogue plates the instant they were available, but cancelled that order cause I hated that dinner bell noise when they clanked (as I heard on one of coop's stories.) I was trying to get back to something reminiscent of the BFCO plates Arnold use to use, but the Rogue plates couldn't be further from that, they look more like iron bumpers than Deep Dish. If I had to place an order now, would definitely choose the Kabuki, but I'm very content with my Rogue Machined plates (silver/black) for the price I paid during Hundo/5 for 5 years ago. Just can't justify the 'all in' price for American made plates. Keep up the through reviews.
I’m not so sure. Arnold actually used more Paramont’s at the Golds in Venice. Gold’s later bought BFCO (Bell Foundry) plates to supplement, but Golds was mostly Paramont. The Kabuki is really not a true deep dish plate at 1.625 inches wide. The Kabuki does have 3 spokes like Paramount and BFCO ( aka Beefco) but is more of a “deepish” dish plate than a true deep dish( in my opinion a deep dish plate is 1.75”-2”). BTW York deep dish plates have 4 spokes.
You are a scientist, you should of broke out the stethoscope haha but you broke it down and you put in some work moving all them plates! Thanks for the review I was just thinking if I should drive to Portland and buy a bunch of the Kabuki's for resale/use. (Once they sell out)
How is the finish on the Kabuki plates holding up after some use? I’m curious as to how the finish compares to the e finish on rogue and strength CO in relation to durability. Great review btw. Thanks.
I went with Strengthco plates and rogue deep dish. I don't go even past 3 plates of 45 each side so deep dish doesn't bother me. I can see how some powerlifters who lift over 500lbs don't like deep dish but I think a deadlift bar can load up more plates on sleeve compared to powerbar. Ill be waiting for kabuki to make a more refined e coated plate once I hit 300lb lifts.
Franco Columbo was a 700+ lb dead-lifter. He did OK with the 45 lb deep dish plates at Gold’s. I doubt it will be a real issue for more than a handful of lifters.
I got mine the other day. I got a couple one hundreds for the heck of it. They are going on my deadlift bar and aren’t ever coming off, those things are hard to handle!!! The 45s are awesome. I think they are not only Milled, but I’m quite sure the back side of the plate, and the outside rim are polished before they are finished. The finish reminds me of a fine rifle or shotgun that is blued. I do metal work but I’m not really a metal “ finisher”. I’m told polishing metal is quite time and labor intensive. I love the sound the deep dish plates make when they are placed on the bar. I have Hampton 45s which are probably similar to the Kabuki’s and the rogues are much more refined. Actually I think the rogue finish is a little overkill as I would have preferred a rougher finish at a cheaper price.
@@TheKurtlocker Hey who doesn’t like talking about their new shiny toys? BTW I ordered 11/24 and they showed up Tuesday. The packaging is nice, but the boxes are wholly inadequate for the 100s. The boxes containing the 100s were all but destroyed when I got them. BTW one of my passions is vintage weight equipment which is why I have a strange fascination with deep dish plates. They will be right at home with my vintage Nautilus machines from the mid 70s with chrome movement arms and handmade “ spider” cams.
Love the vintage stuff as well. That’s too bad about the packaging. The Kabuki Strength packaging would easily survive with hundos...maybe Rogue should copy the design
@@TheKurtlocker Oh it’s no big deal. They had to travel about another 50 feet from my driveway to my basement. I thought it was interesting how much harder the 100 s were on the boxes than the 45 s were. The plates all made it in pristine condition.
I like the dullness of the Kabuki, as well as the three spokes. The Rouge seems a little deeper, so that makes them a win with me!! I like the ringing sound!! The ultimate deep dish plates, Paramount, had three spokes, but was super deep like the Rogue.
Can’t tell you how many times your videos have helped me. Thanks again man for having such a damn amount of great detail. Always will support this channel!
@@TheKurtlocker Seriously. It’s helped me a bunch. Now I’m just stuck trying to decide if I want to go with Rep Equalizer or Rogues deep dish haha I’m surprised how tight the Equalizers fit together plus the grips let me do things like weighted dips and pull-ups. Problem is those deep dishes are so awesome!
They use recycled iron out of a low carbon footprint foundry. They are expensive but for a made in USA product it’s very competitive. I understand what you mean, but recycled products are less about end price abs more about being stewards of the environment. You have to pick what is priority for you.
For sure the 3 spoke design has been around much. longer is more traditional and looks more solid.How much more American. could you ask for than an olympic plate made from recycled military steel?Top that
its good to finally see a proponent of the kabuki plates, I have them and love them but social media is giving them a lot of hate. Also just to mention shipping I ordered 4 sets (360 LBs) of 45s and they came individually packed from ups like your rogue plates came. I guess I didn't order enough to qualify for freight.
Go with Kabuki and I went with a set of Rogue 100lb deep dish....Came in trashed, Twice. Packaging was horrible and UPS boxes came in destroyed...Rogue went to send another set and was told they would add reinforcing the package. Um, adding a little Duct-tape is not reinforcing...second same came in completely trashed also...Finally gave up and just let them give me a credit...Now I have to sand out two of the best plates and send two back...Not worth it...Rogue was slow about it all.
I can respect this rack and stack, I still don’t regret sticking with my Kabuki plates because of how beat up they get doing strongman. The rogue plates are so beautiful that it would likely make me cringe if they got dropped on asphalt doing heavy farmer’s carries
Thank You, I just didn’t realize how much is involved in weight plates. I like Rogue, there product’s are strong and built to last. But don’t forget that when it gets to 400lbs or more rogue has the 100lbs plates
Curious about the noise of the Rogue Deep Dish plates. I link in a townhouse and try my best to rack my weights quietly, slowly let the bar down on deadlifts. I currently have the REP Fitness urethane Equalizer plates and you can't even hear me lift for the most part. Do these plates make much noise when you do intentionally lower the weights on deadlifts, re rack the bar slowly, etc.? I absolutely love the plates.
Good question! It would depend on how hard they hit the floor. If you control them all the way down they don't produce much noise but are definitely not silent either
I went with the Rogue, but that was due to buying everything thing else from Rogue at the same time (reduces shipping costs). Even if buying just the plates, Rogue shipping would be best as I am in a state East of Ohio. I can not see shipping from Oregon being less than shipping from Ohio to my location.
Was highly considering The Strength Co. plates but I really appreciated your review and decided to grab a couple 45s. I’m looking forward to them. Thank you for the content!
That actually means that the rogue plates are butting right up to their advertised tolerance. 45.9 would be the top end and most of the rogue plates were right at 45.8. Thank you for pointing that out though. Oversight on my part on a crucial specification
Really good review on the plates and real life stacks and lifts of the weights. I ordered my Rogue plates and got a pair of the 100lbs. I figured if I'm going to squat and dead lift, I'm not going to play around with a bunch of 45s.
I haven’t used the 100 lb rogue plates. I would be curious how the deep dish makes them easier to handle. Now that I’m in Ohio the likelihood of me buying a couple sets of the 100s is moderate to high
I’m firmly in the anti-35 camp. They are a waste of steel! Lol. So many 25s and 10s could have been made instead. As for 100s, I’m okay without the option personally. Rogue does have both the 35 and 100 options though.
Has anyone seen the deep dish plates from Iron Company? They look almost identical to the Kabuki except they say “Iron Company”. They even have the recycle logo. They brag about being from a “ carbon neutral” foundry so they must be made in the same place. They also feature an “oil based” finish which they claim is from recycled vegetable oil. They also have 100 lb plates. More choices is a good thing.
Ok, so I’ll give you that they seem insanely similar and you’re right that they do offer 100s. However, $310 for one pair of 45s is pretty steep and over $700 for 100s.
@@TheKurtlocker My guess is price gouging due to the pandemic. Competition will drive the price down. They also seem to have some package deals. I wonder how many they will sell?
@@TheKurtlocker Update: I ended up buying the Rogues, 2 pair each of 45s & 25s. I did it due to brand familiarity on my part and on the perception of the secondary market--in my area, anything with "Rogue" on it is easy to sell, all others not so much. Verdict: Excellent. Only thing I might change: the lip on the 45s is great, they are much easier to handle in tight, awkward spaces (such as my garage gym) than the calibrated plates I sold to fund the purchase. But the flange on the 25s is pretty shallow, but they are only 25s and besides, the trade-off is that with a deeper flange, fewer of them would fit on the bar, which matters to me since I use loadable dumbbell handles. thanks again for the great review.
I personally like the Kabuki plates better. The rogue are made to a tighter tolerance. My feelings towards the Kabuki plates are purely cosmetic. Both plate sets are about equal in the grand scheme of things. Shipping is the real discriminator depending on where you live
Great review. It's not easy to distinguish the ding from where I'm watching but if your wife in the house can differentiate that's pretty significant! Both are awesome plates. I'd be happy with either.
Totally think the kabuki are the best plates from a looks and utility standpoint. I wish kabuki still made these plates. Great review. Good to see you putting out new videos again! Even though this one is an “oldie” it’s a goodie.
Thank you. Hoping to keep this momentum
Good luck with the move!
Thanks man! Can’t wait to get set back up in Ohio!
Thank you for all the effort you put into the video. You answered all of the questions I had brewing in my mind. If you’re looking to offload any of those Rogue plates let me know lol
Ha! I will.
It’s funny because this is part of the hard part for me. I tend to get attached to equipment and running this channel has taught me that it’s fine to get attached to a few things but realistically if I want new content I need to learn to let things go, even if I live them.
Best "comparo" vid I've seen.👍
Thank you
Overall great review! I wish you had given the actual weight of the plates for comparison.
Thank you for watching. The video was already so long that I cut that footage out.
I’m new to the whole home gym deal and I only know of CAP and Rogue. I have 5’s and 10’s from CAP but I own 25’s, 35’s and I’m waiting on 45’s from Rogue. I absolutely love my Rogue plates as the don’t feel used and grimy like the plates from a commercial gym. I may look into Kabuki as they seem to make me curious... They may not look as good as Rogue plates but they are still a nice looking plate.
Also curious why the hate for 35’s? Maybe I’d understand if it was normal times but considering the pandemic is still going on strong I see them as useful. Especially if I load em with two 10’s on each side. Gives me the 45 I need until I get my 45’s... Plus I like going up in increments so the more plates in various weights the better for me I say!
In my opinion, 35 lb plates serve no real purpose in a gym with weights that don’t go to 55 lbs. most steel plates at 45 lbs don’t require a 35 because of the existence of 10, 5, and 2.5 lb plates. You can incrementally load from 25-40 and viola! The next jump would be a 45 lb plate. 35 lb plates cost more per lb and I want to stress that this is an opinion, but they aren’t worth the cost. I would rather just have another set of 45s.
As for the rogue vs kabuki. I prefer the look and feel of the Kabuki plates, but the rogues are much more refined. I think that makes them more difficult to use in my sport of strongman. Either way you’re getting an excellent plate.
With the pandemic ongoing and plate shortages continuing, Kabuki Strength has done an excellent job of keeping their lead times low on plates and keeping them available. The main discriminator will likely end up being shipping costs between rogue and kabuki as well as availability.
Thank you for watching and commenting. The garage gym community is awesome!
I have a few pairs of 35s. I never thought about if they were really needed or not. I have way more 25s, 10s, 5s, 2 1/2, and 1 1/4.
I think they’re mostly useless but that’s just an opinion and definitely not a truth.
For me the rogue deep dish were much cheaper than the kabukis
Love the Video...but save some plates for the rest of us!!!
The kabuki plates are in stock right now!
@@TheKurtlocker yes they are. Thanks for the heads up.
Nice review Kurt. Coop better step up his game.
Thank you for the compliment.
best review on these plates
Thank you. I worked hard on it
I think he left out that Rogue has 100 lb plates. I’ll let it slide for having such a cool name😄.
That is correct and I did fail to mention it. Thanks for watching!
Great vid
Thank you for watching! I appreciate your time
Kabuki is a form of Japanese theatre so not that badass :)
But I also prefer that look over the Rogue.
Shots fired! Hahaha. Thanks for watching
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Thanks for providing the most thorough plate comparison I think I've ever seen. Great job as always!
Thank you for the compliment and I appreciate you watching!
One more thing I forgot. The Rogue plates are the first true “ deep dish” plates to be manufactured in at least half a century. I know a lot of recently made plates call themselves “ deep dish” but they aren’t quite there. My Hampton 45 lb. plates are 1 3/4” wide which I would say is at the minimum width to be considered “ deep dish”.
That’s an excellent point.
I like both KABUKI and ROGUE. The deciding factor for me was ,KABUKI was 2700.00 to ship 2700.00 dollars in plates for a total of 5400.00 dollars. I purchased 4-100, 14-45s, 4-35s, 6-25s plates from ROGUE and got HUNDO pricing, only paid 543.00 in shipping. Bought 140lbs of change plates from The Strength Company in CA and paid 123.00 for shipping. I live on the east coast so made sense to go with ROGUE for the shipping savings.
Lately it seems like the shipping coming out of Kabuki is ridiculous. It definitely didn’t cost me that much to ship mine when I purchased them
I'm looking at doing the same thing. Buying the Rogues coupled with Strength Co. change plates. I'm in the Midwest and Kabuki's shipping is insane. Strength Co has high shipping too, but not as severe as Kabuki.
Have you checked Elite FTS? They have the same plates as Kabuki for good prices.
@@TheKurtlocker I didn't realize they had the deep dish plates. Just checked them out and loaded up the cart for comparison and I can get the Rogue's for around $115.00 less even with shipping. I'm going to pull the trigger on the Rogue's.
Send it! Just don’t get those 35s!
Wow! Legit review! Those Kabuki's are growing on me. I like the fact that they are recycled and made here. I actually like that matte black finish too. The Rogue plates are still 💯 legit too thou. I dont think you can go wrong with either brand.
I agree with that statement 100%
i love that this review spends a good two minutes about the badassery or lackthereof of the recycling sign. thank you.
Garage gyms gotta be better awesome and badass! Lol.
The recycling symbol also gets Kabuki a lot of negative comments. I kind of like it
That review could not be more thorough! You covered any possible concern of question.
I ordered the Rogue plates the instant they were available, but cancelled that order cause I hated that dinner bell noise when they clanked (as I heard on one of coop's stories.)
I was trying to get back to something reminiscent of the BFCO plates Arnold use to use, but the Rogue plates couldn't be further from that, they look more like iron bumpers than Deep Dish.
If I had to place an order now, would definitely choose the Kabuki, but I'm very content with my Rogue Machined plates (silver/black) for the price I paid during Hundo/5 for 5 years ago. Just can't justify the 'all in' price for American made plates.
Keep up the through reviews.
I actually had those machined plates for 4 years and loved them as well. Thanks foe the comment, view and support!
I’m not so sure. Arnold actually used more Paramont’s at the Golds in Venice. Gold’s later bought BFCO (Bell Foundry) plates to supplement, but Golds was mostly Paramont. The Kabuki is really not a true deep dish plate at 1.625 inches wide. The Kabuki does have 3 spokes like Paramount and BFCO ( aka Beefco) but is more of a “deepish” dish plate than a true deep dish( in my opinion a deep dish plate is 1.75”-2”). BTW York deep dish plates have 4 spokes.
Bruhwhy do you have that many plates! LOL you an 800lb squatter??
500lb squatter...
Must....have....more!!!....
@@keithgreen4475 To squat 500 you need 10 plates -- dude has like 20
It’s funny, because the other half of that order belongs to Keith.
That weight is easily used up on a strongman Saturday..yoke/farmers medley, hand over hand, so on and so forth...
This review is way better then coops from @garagegymreviews half ass review
Thank you for watching.
You are a scientist, you should of broke out the stethoscope haha but you broke it down and you put in some work moving all them plates! Thanks for the review I was just thinking if I should drive to Portland and buy a bunch of the Kabuki's for resale/use. (Once they sell out)
It was a ton of work. I’m not sure if kabuki is doing reseller sales.
@@TheKurtlocker
Not that extreme, just some Offerup/Craigslist sales 😉
I got two 45's from rogue, a bar, and collars on their way. I'm so excited to make strength training apart of my life again!
I’m super excited for you! Strength training is a vital part of my existence
How is the finish on the Kabuki plates holding up after some use? I’m curious as to how the finish compares to the e finish on rogue and strength CO in relation to durability. Great review btw. Thanks.
It’s a powdercoat and is holding up well. There is normal wear where the loading hole is and they survived the move with no additional wear
I went with Strengthco plates and rogue deep dish. I don't go even past 3 plates of 45 each side so deep dish doesn't bother me. I can see how some powerlifters who lift over 500lbs don't like deep dish but I think a deadlift bar can load up more plates on sleeve compared to powerbar. Ill be waiting for kabuki to make a more refined e coated plate once I hit 300lb lifts.
Franco Columbo was a 700+ lb dead-lifter. He did OK with the 45 lb deep dish plates at Gold’s.
I doubt it will be a real issue for more than a handful of lifters.
Agreed that is is mostly a non issue
Wow seriously the best review for both these plates on RUclips! So In depth thanks for taking the time to make this video
Thank you for taking the time to watch! I actually enjoyed the process. Took about 2 hours to actually record everything
Subbed. Excellent vid. Very detailed. I think I’m getting the Rogue
They are awesome plates! Thanks for watching and subscribing
Great review. I've had the kabukis for a couple weeks and I've been loving them so far.
That’s awesome! I’m surprised at the fairly consistent availability of the Kabuki plates. Thank you for watching
I got mine the other day. I got a couple one hundreds for the heck of it. They are going on my deadlift bar and aren’t ever coming off, those things are hard to handle!!! The 45s are awesome. I think they are not only Milled, but I’m quite sure the back side of the plate, and the outside rim are polished before they are finished. The finish reminds me of a fine rifle or shotgun that is blued. I do metal work but I’m not really a metal “ finisher”. I’m told polishing metal is quite time and labor intensive. I love the sound the deep dish plates make when they are placed on the bar. I have Hampton 45s which are probably similar to the Kabuki’s and the rogues are much more refined. Actually I think the rogue finish is a little overkill as I would have preferred a rougher finish at a cheaper price.
Thanks for the detailed comment. The more people’s opinions we can get on this video the better
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Hey who doesn’t like talking about their new shiny toys? BTW I ordered 11/24 and they showed up Tuesday. The packaging is nice, but the boxes are wholly inadequate for the 100s. The boxes containing the 100s were all but destroyed when I got them. BTW one of my passions is vintage weight equipment which is why I have a strange fascination with deep dish plates. They will be right at home with my vintage Nautilus machines from the mid 70s with chrome movement arms and handmade “ spider” cams.
Love the vintage stuff as well. That’s too bad about the packaging. The Kabuki Strength packaging would easily survive with hundos...maybe Rogue should copy the design
@@TheKurtlocker
Oh it’s no big deal. They had to travel about another 50 feet from my driveway to my basement. I thought it was interesting how much harder the 100 s were on the boxes than the 45 s were. The plates all made it in pristine condition.
I like the dullness of the Kabuki, as well as the three spokes. The Rouge seems a little deeper, so that makes them a win with me!! I like the ringing sound!! The ultimate deep dish plates, Paramount, had three spokes, but was super deep like the Rogue.
If anyone is interested, there is a pair of deep dish paramounts on eBay right now for only $5k.
Fair enough!
I like the look of the kabuki over the Rogue plates. Is the center hub being thicker an issue or is it a non issue?
It’s a non-issue. It’s just a point of feedback I wanted to highlight.
Thank u for your very informative review. Definitely a fan of your channel 🙏
Thank you. It means a lot to see your comment. I appreciate your feedback and your time.
Can’t tell you how many times your videos have helped me.
Thanks again man for having such a damn amount of great detail. Always will support this channel!
Thank you! Comments like this are the big reason I started making videos in the first place!
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Seriously. It’s helped me a bunch. Now I’m just stuck trying to decide if I want to go with Rep Equalizer or Rogues deep dish haha
I’m surprised how tight the Equalizers fit together plus the grips let me do things like weighted dips and pull-ups. Problem is those deep dishes are so awesome!
They really are. You won’t go wrong either way
Kabuki uses recycled iron and yet charges so much.
They use recycled iron out of a low carbon footprint foundry. They are expensive but for a made in USA product it’s very competitive. I understand what you mean, but recycled products are less about end price abs more about being stewards of the environment. You have to pick what is priority for you.
For sure the 3 spoke design has been around much. longer is more traditional and looks more solid.How much more American. could you ask for than an olympic plate made from recycled military steel?Top that
Good stuff bro!
Thanks for watching!
Great review man! Thanks.
I hope it helped. Thank you for watching!
Great Review Kurt! keep em coming bro!
Thank you. I definitely intend to keep this moving along
its good to finally see a proponent of the kabuki plates, I have them and love them but social media is giving them a lot of hate. Also just to mention shipping I ordered 4 sets (360 LBs) of 45s and they came individually packed from ups like your rogue plates came. I guess I didn't order enough to qualify for freight.
I like them a lot. Qualifying for freight shipping is a win.
Strength Co for the Win
I do love me some strength co
Go with Kabuki and I went with a set of Rogue 100lb deep dish....Came in trashed, Twice. Packaging was horrible and UPS boxes came in destroyed...Rogue went to send another set and was told they would add reinforcing the package. Um, adding a little Duct-tape is not reinforcing...second same came in completely trashed also...Finally gave up and just let them give me a credit...Now I have to sand out two of the best plates and send two back...Not worth it...Rogue was slow about it all.
Wow. That’s an awful experience.
coolest old school style plate order
1. Ivanko OM series
2 . Rouge Deep dish
3. York legacy
4. Strength Co
5. Kabuki
plates they still make anyways.
I can respect this rack and stack, I still don’t regret sticking with my Kabuki plates because of how beat up they get doing strongman. The rogue plates are so beautiful that it would likely make me cringe if they got dropped on asphalt doing heavy farmer’s carries
Thank You, I just didn’t realize how much is involved in weight plates.
I like Rogue, there product’s are strong and built to last.
But don’t forget that when it gets to 400lbs or more rogue has the 100lbs plates
That is true, but I can load too far more than my capability with 45s
Curious about the noise of the Rogue Deep Dish plates. I link in a townhouse and try my best to rack my weights quietly, slowly let the bar down on deadlifts. I currently have the REP Fitness urethane Equalizer plates and you can't even hear me lift for the most part. Do these plates make much noise when you do intentionally lower the weights on deadlifts, re rack the bar slowly, etc.? I absolutely love the plates.
Good question! It would depend on how hard they hit the floor. If you control them all the way down they don't produce much noise but are definitely not silent either
I went with the Rogue, but that was due to buying everything thing else from Rogue at the same time (reduces shipping costs). Even if buying just the plates, Rogue shipping would be best as I am in a state East of Ohio. I can not see shipping from Oregon being less than shipping from Ohio to my location.
That’s a good reason to go with the Rogue plates. I don’t dislike the rogue’s. I just prefer the kabuki plates
Was highly considering The Strength Co. plates but I really appreciated your review and decided to grab a couple 45s. I’m looking forward to them. Thank you for the content!
I never got to test those ones out but I’ve heard good things. Basement Brandon had some. Thank you for watching
What about The Strength Co. Plates? They are a US Veteran owned Company. As of this comment they still have USA made plates in stock.
That is true, but I didn’t purchase those plates for the review. When I was shopping for them they were significantly more expensive shipped to me.
Great review, sir!
Thank you. This was very in depth and was basically it’s own workout to just record.
7:27 actually Kabuki advertises a 3% tolerance, Rogue advertises 2%. The end result appears similar though.
That actually means that the rogue plates are butting right up to their advertised tolerance. 45.9 would be the top end and most of the rogue plates were right at 45.8. Thank you for pointing that out though. Oversight on my part on a crucial specification
Really good review on the plates and real life stacks and lifts of the weights. I ordered my Rogue plates and got a pair of the 100lbs. I figured if I'm going to squat and dead lift, I'm not going to play around with a bunch of 45s.
I haven’t used the 100 lb rogue plates. I would be curious how the deep dish makes them easier to handle. Now that I’m in Ohio the likelihood of me buying a couple sets of the 100s is moderate to high
Just got my rogue rm4 for Xmas (arrived Xmas eve) and I’m building my home gym. Need some more weights and been looking at the kabukis
I like mine. Sent it!
Excellent! Wish you would do something similar with Strength Co plates
This review cost me a lot of money. I would love to review the strength co plates but at present can’t afford to purchase a new set.
Thanks!
Thank you! Means a lot to me
Fyi, the Rogue storage pins say they have a max capacity weight of 180lbs.
The wording on the site is “these durable 16" overall, 12.5" Usable Length storage pins can each hold over 180LB of bumpers or cast iron plates.”
Very detailed review. I prefer the rogues mainly because they copied the York deep dish design.
I like them both and I understand that a lot of folks will prefer the rogue plates.
Excellent vid. Really helped with my decision on which to get. Duffin should send you a commission check.
If life were were only that perfect. Lol. Duffin and entire staff at kabuki should give themselves a pat on the back. My hat off to them!
Awsome video. Great review. You put in a lot of work to get this done. You gained a new subscriber.
Thanks for the sub! I appreciate your time
Great review!
Thank you for watching!
Well as for me seven plates or 765 lbs is more than enough for me.
Enough for me as well. Thanks for watching.
Hansu hands down
I’m hoping to get my hands on some to check out
@@TheKurtlocker BB did a review on Hansu Deep Dish Plates. I pulled the trigger after his review.
Kabuki should’ve chosen different name
What name would you have chosen?
Did you sell your rogue deep dish plates yet? I would buy lol?
Ha. That set is owned by my training partner. He was nice enough to let me borrow them to review them.
That looks like basement Brandon’s old rack!
It is the same model and color.
Kabuki. No 100's or 35's.
I’m firmly in the anti-35 camp. They are a waste of steel! Lol. So many 25s and 10s could have been made instead. As for 100s, I’m okay without the option personally. Rogue does have both the 35 and 100 options though.
Great in-depth review. Thank you 🙏 🇺🇸
Thank you for watching
Has anyone seen the deep dish plates from Iron Company? They look almost identical to the Kabuki except they say “Iron Company”. They even have the recycle logo. They brag about being from a “ carbon neutral” foundry so they must be made in the same place. They also feature an “oil based” finish which they claim is from recycled vegetable oil. They also have 100 lb plates. More choices is a good thing.
I’m looking it up now. Thanks for the tip
Ok, so I’ll give you that they seem insanely similar and you’re right that they do offer 100s. However, $310 for one pair of 45s is pretty steep and over $700 for 100s.
@@TheKurtlocker
My guess is price gouging due to the pandemic. Competition will drive the price down. They also seem to have some package deals. I wonder how many they will sell?
I imagine they won’t sell much now that Kabuki is online with their plates. They do offer 100s though which is something kabuki doesn’t do.
Do you lift?
Occasionally, about 4 times per week.
@@TheKurtlocker Of course, I was kidding and always enjoy your videos. ☘️
I wish we could leave video responses to comments. You would have seen me laugh, drink coffee and then my thumbs go nuts responding. Appreciate you!
Good review. I'll be saving up for the Kabukis....
You won’t regret it
@@TheKurtlocker Update: I ended up buying the Rogues, 2 pair each of 45s & 25s. I did it due to brand familiarity on my part and on the perception of the secondary market--in my area, anything with "Rogue" on it is easy to sell, all others not so much. Verdict: Excellent. Only thing I might change: the lip on the 45s is great, they are much easier to handle in tight, awkward spaces (such as my garage gym) than the calibrated plates I sold to fund the purchase. But the flange on the 25s is pretty shallow, but they are only 25s and besides, the trade-off is that with a deeper flange, fewer of them would fit on the bar, which matters to me since I use loadable dumbbell handles. thanks again for the great review.
You made a good choice. Enjoy the plates!
I didn't watch the whole video. Which do you prefer? Which cost more? Thank you in advanced.
I personally like the Kabuki plates better. The rogue are made to a tighter tolerance. My feelings towards the Kabuki plates are purely cosmetic.
Both plate sets are about equal in the grand scheme of things. Shipping is the real discriminator depending on where you live
@@TheKurtlocker I'm in Southern Oregon. Do you know if i Can purchase direct w/o shipping
Nevermind i answered my own question TY for your response
No problem. Thank you for watching!
Great job
Thank you simeon. That means a lot from you.
Bro those KABOOKI! OMG!!!
I really do love mine. I loaded them into my moving truck the other day and already miss them
weight is weight
In some cases I agree. In some I don’t. Plate accuracy is important. IMO within 2% is important
21:08 Respect💪
Thank you. I really think the recycling symbol doesn't take away from the look
Great review. It's not easy to distinguish the ding from where I'm watching but if your wife in the house can differentiate that's pretty significant! Both are awesome plates. I'd be happy with either.
Agreed! Best description I should have said is the kabuki plates made a dong and the rogue makes a ding
@@TheKurtlocker use both and you lifting some ding-dongs!
I like where your head’s at
Who likes the dong
Bwahahahaha. I do!! I do!!
Great content! Keep it up
Thank you!
Kabuki products are way over priced. For the level of quality it is.
I have several Kabuki products and literally feel no remorse for a single one of them. Their quality is top notch and that is what you’re paying for.
I’m sold on the Rogue plates simply on the fact they are made in Ohio. Oregon is dying if not already dead thanks to Portland and Seattle.
That’s a reason I haven’t heard yet but send it! Both are excellent options.