EMG 81 vs EMG HZ HA Active vs Passive
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
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Gary Holt uses the HZ pickups for the studio and the 81 for live use.
I had a Jackson Demmelition that had HZ's and I actually thought "holy shit it chugs like Exodus"
I thought I was crazy because I preferred the sound of the passives!
The Emg fills all the space in the room when you hear it carefully. Very FULL sound. I like that super aggressive full sound it's like " get out of my way" type of sound. It has presence and character.
The HZ is cleaner sounding, more dry but, I feel like when I play metal I want a heavy full sound and I get that with emg 81. The low end on the HZ definitely feels nicer but, you can just add more bass on the EMG81 for that.
I give it to the EMG 81.
I was going to say the 81 sounded a bit thicker
At times the HZ's actually sounded like they had more 'body' to them. Granted, it's a RUclips video. I'd rather play-test myself, in person, but I'm impressed so far.
Bottom line, any pick up that is sealed and epoxied with a good winding and magnet is great. I can’t believe how great the HZ passives are for lead. But those 81/85 sets chug.
Hmm interesting
Pretty much, people put too much stock into what they think their pickup is doing for them, when really it's the rest of their rig doing most of the work
81 has more bite but the HZ has more body. I just ordered a schecter stiletto studio 6 and was worried when I realized the HZ’s are passive but it seems like I won’t be disappointed with my choice after all
The difference I hear between the 81 and the HZ, is the 81 had just a little more peak/higher end.
Awesome comparison! You do these vids right,,, low chugging, and some high fretwork as well! The hz jumped out at me surprisingly so!!
Definitely the hzs are a modernish sounding pickup for an emg to me which I liked the sound of. Emgs might have a huge following of people who like more classic metal tones which is why he heard lots of people say they are not that good.
I'm agree too
Personally, after carefully listening to these riffs,, I like the 81 better, just a bit. It might have something to do with my preference for rhythm playing. But damn, the HZ H4 does pack a nice grunt.
Hippie Type I’ve got one of those Corts and for £133, I’m quite surprised with what I got. The active pickups here for me clearly sound better, but both still good. From experience though, I will say the cort is a bit flat in tone compared to the active pickups.
Pair it with an active boost and you'll have twice the grunt
Oh man, they both sound good
Actives have a bigger sound and more compression.
Passives have a less pronounced sound but more depth.
Might as well go Fluence.
I was going to write up my own summary - but you nailed it haha
Honestly, I like the passive more. Richer low end so would be great for stuff like doom and sludge
The hz pickups is probably the best sounding pickups that i had on a guitar. It catches the dynamics very good and are very clear sounding. They sound exceptionanlly good in a mahogny body
I like HZ
The HZs are very good. But I like the old 81. Been using them since 1986. I use other brands too. But I love that old 81. Nothing like it.
i like the HZs sound , and by the way , dont need to be worried by batteries !!!
Not bad. I have some passive emgs that i have in my ibanez mick thompson......its the cheaper model so it had some v ibanez pups. I just need to wire it up. Everyone says they suck but i tend to always go against the majority.
But after watching this video, im definitely going to give them a try and see for myself.
Thanks
They're both good. In a studio setting like this, the differences are almost negligible but it is there. In a live show setting however, I can imagine the 81 having a more consistent and 'full-on' tone and for playing metal in a live setting, I would go for the 81 no question.
The 81s have a lot more punch to them and are much more focused around the upper mids. The HZ HAs, whilst not bad, do definitely sound muddy and less inspiring (for lack of a better term). Both are good but I think the 81s win here!
I'm very surprised.they sounded very similar.very similar...I just picked up an emg hz 707 B.f0r $19.
I can't wait to out them in...
How is it?
EMG HZ are better with préamp booster for agressive riff and high gain solo, i have this setup on my ESP E-II WildScythe (it's a HZ F-H2 with EMG mm-04 booster), this pickup is a little bit brighter than 81/81 pickups, twice are great but it's not really the same thing :)
Alexi Laiho set up eh
What is a preamp booster? Is it a pedal?
@@Sl33zytheclown alexi used to use an onboard preamp on the guitar. It was a boost. Basically a pedal on the guitar
i still love the emg 81 but both are amazing pick ups..riff away
Idk, the HZ sounds slightly more bright to me
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Ok...I'll have that Marshall JVM410H with the Cort and pickles on the side! :D
Hey it sounds like that h4 really dosent have NEARLY the attack or crispness the 81s does right?...but after buying an h4 i realized that they need to be muuuch closer to the strings than other pickups. You can really get those things to chug. I have mine just below too close and they really came to life. That and if you want certain parts to sound heavier you can really dig into the things and they get even meaner
Still, there are many passives that can compete with 81 much better than HZs at the same or a little higher price point.
@@Admiral_Bongo Im all ears?
I just got an Ibanez ICT700 with D activators
Should I switch
@@marijandesin8226 D Activators are pretty tight pickups! I have them in an Ibanez XPT700 and they are FREAKING BRUTAL!!! Cheers -Ryan
@@marijandesin8226 Dude save your money up and get yourself some fishman fluence pickups. I still have a soft spot for that hz that thing is awesome. Ive since sold it to a buddy to go in his schecter les paul and it totally brought that thing to life... but since buying a fluence modern bridge i dont wanna use anything else especially for metal. i would like to try their open core humbucker tho.
HZ sounds too spiky or compressed or something. It's not "bad" per se, it just sounds more like the concept of a vibrating string, rather than an actual vibrating string.
Thanks for this video I'm wondering if there could've been a quality control issue on the HZs or something because I've heard some that sound really really good and then others it sounds kind of like Cheap junk eaither that or maybe it was just somebody had their guitar set up wrong
The 81 are too harsh and bright sounding, normal they're active. The H4 sound very well.
The difference between these are minimal. Im sorry, but i just cant say i see the point of having active pickups that need a battery. I owned a guitar with them, and the idea that if you're getting a guitar and installing them, trying to find a place for a battery is just dumb when you honestly cant tell the difference blindfolded. The battery has always confused me, cause its not like the pickup is creating a gain, or anything like that. Passive is superior to me, and i feel like they have more life to them.
I liked Active.
Honestly I like the hurts better passives always better for me
I think the hz sounds good.
Is EMG HZ H4 used with distortion or HZ H4A?
HZ sounds like 81 little brother basically. Not as articulate, not as bright, etc. The mids on the HZ are louder, yet less defined, I'll stick to my 81s ~
You know how to play well. Got me pumped up. Your evil, thanks for the video.
Damn! They both sound good, but the Actives sound considerably more pronounced. Plus the Neck Pickup on the Hzs sound bad compared to the 81s :( Thats a bummer because Im trying to swap out my jackson humbuckers but it doesnt have a slot for the battery and im unsure on how to install the actives.
That Cort v was sick
I play metal but always thought the EMG 81 were a bit too much, suprised by the HZ, sounds better to me but ive always liked passive so thats probably why
I was always touch and go with the 81. It does it's thing, for sure. But I got so tired of Active pickups... if I never play another guitar with Actives I think I will be just fine. Cheers -Ryan
That cort v looks just like my shecter v I have
Killer guitar skills man.
Buen video! Y bueno es mucha la diferencia en el sonido y pienso que depende mucho de los gustos personales... Good video bro! Both pickups sounds good.
Awesome, so awesome thank you for this! Does EMG make the H4A in 8 string passives? If go to their website it get a warning that it is infiltrated by hackers. Anyone know?
What is the Cort model?
Active 81 85 are fucking good! Liked it.
Passive is more present, louder, and a bit messy. The active are compressed, a bit more precise, and subdued.
I like them both. Although I like palm muted chugs a bit more with active. They are two good options, and the differences are subtle, and by no means night and day.
I replaced the pickups in my LTD AX-50 (ESP Pickups) with the EMG HZ H4 because i thought the EMG-81 sounds too sterile and character less.
And this video shows me exactly that. The HZ H4 sounds, for me personally, much better. Much warmer, fuller, more character.
I see this comment everywhere. "Its sterile" I have friends who say that but can't tell me what it means because I don't think they even know.
All depends which guitar
I have spent years changing pickups getting everything to what I like
The best EMG loaded guitar is the ltd horizons back when they used actives in the earlier models
The best production guitar my guitar tech and I have played
But probably it's just that certain guitar too
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The HZ has a fatter low end to my ears, which is definitely that hot passive "saggy" bass feel, which I prefer.
Seymour Duncan Screaming Demon for the win.
I am listening with one AirPod and the hz sounds punchier on the bottom end and low mids.
Curious, Why only one air pod?
Great video
dude you play daaamn good
Get the H4 if you're lazy like me and can't be bothered with changing a 9 volt every couple of weeks.
HZ passive is not better. Warm, clarity, and tight more than active.
So...how is it not better specifically?
Great tone.
Is the sound coming from a mic'd amp?
Thanks.
I list my full Signal Chain in the description. But, yes! I wouldn’t have it any other way, personally. OX and Torpedos can be convenient, however, I love the ability to actually move the mic if need be. Cheers -Ryan
@@Crypticmaskguitar Yes, I read your description but it was not clear enough to me... I wanted to make sure. Specially because just a few use real amps these days, you know. Your sound in this video is waaay too good. Which makes me think amp sims are close but not there yet. :)
What do you think?
Honestly I don’t think I’ll ever go the route of Amp Simulators. No interest on my end at all. It took me a few years and around $8,000-$10,000 on like 30 Microphones to finally settle on the Neumann TLM 107 as my Cabinet Mic. It really does a great job capturing all of the frequencies that I like. It’s hard to do that with IRs. They have a multitude of options but having that experience of handling different mic’s and learning their placements is not something that you can really reproduce in software form. Cheers -Ryan
@@Crypticmaskguitar Yeah, but that's the thing. You spent 10k. Any teenage guitar amp sim nerd here on youtube having spent $50 or even nothing, could get a tone that totally would work on a mix. Actually I saw one the other day... a teenager in his bedroom achieved a fantastic replica of the Master of Puppets tone. It was mind blowing. Regards.
It's a great tool for beginners, and for certain circumstances for sure. Would have been nice when I was 12 too have that kind of stuff to learn with. The one big thing is to use it as a stepping stone... Someone who only uses software would be lost in a live situation or in a real studio. Not that those are exactly necessary. But I wouldn't take my car to a mechanic who has only used simulations vs someone who has actual hands on experience just to save a couple of bucks. If that makes sense. Cheers -Ryan
Where can I buy this exact cort v???
You could find them used on reverb
The Ltd ex is way better for the higher sections on the song
in clip i like emg 81. but emg hz not bad
Tune?
I make it up on the spot man… you can give it a name if you want hahaha! Cheers -Ryan
81 active
Hz sound much better for me
Hz win 🤘
Song name ? 1:00
We only play originals... so you can name it if you want hahaha Cheers -Ryan
Jam is what it’s called
Im Canadian now, Im sorry, LOL!
Emgs sound so thin
The 81 is clearly better.
Night and day. Zakk runs 81s in both positions
I have an LTD V401FM with 81/81... not too shabby! I thought that Zakk’s set was 81/85, though? I also just ordered an Ivory set of 81/85. Cheers -Ryan
@@Crypticmaskguitar most everyone thinks so. I just saw BLS on March 12 probabably the last big concert in the US. I asked his tech are those both 81s. He just smiled.
I'm not hearing a major difference in the two as everyone claims it's probably because the active are more expensive, so people think they sound so much better. Active pick ups are blown out of proportion in opinion.
@@Crypticmaskguitar maybe he uses two 81s now
yo las escucho igual
EMG HZ ok