Covered vs Uncovered Pickups! - Truth or Scam??
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- Опубликовано: 2 сен 2019
- Have you ever wondered if the type of cover on your pickups changes their tone?
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I've always perfered covered pickups just because they look slick
That's definitely the best reason for a gear purchase. ;)
@@BoozyBeggar lol
@@jean-renepirlet I said that with a wink, but I actually meant it. You just can't beat nickel covered humbuckers or a good colorful burst finish.
It's all in the fingers anyway.
People make fun of u but beauty of a guitar is really important , u don't marry ugly girl
@@yonesmoloodi1886 You do if you want to be happy for the rest of your life. :)
Great test but having no pick ups at all is what truly makes a difference!
That was hilarious, Soyborne. And more than just a little bit true. I've watched so many pup comparisons, I'm fairly convinced that, as long as you have them, it almost doesn't matter which ones you use. What I am concerned with is the inherent-balance characteristics in one set vs. another, and, additionally, their potential _to be balanced,_ one brand/type over another. Especially in the ceramic vs. alnico realm.
@@maekong2010 no,, he was right, you don't need pickups at all. LOL
@@realtruenorth Alright then. If you need me, I’ll be ripping the pickups out of my Les Paul. 😆
@@maekong2010 I already ripped mine out. So liberating
Plot Twist: he was always playing with the bridge pickup hole.
Oops, wrong hole. Story of my life!
@@bloemundude 😔😔😔
I've been wanting to record this vid for awhile! Big thanks to Relish Guitars :)
1. Guitar and Pickups
2. Tones 2:27
3. Final Thoughts 8:00
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I completely agree with your conclusions.
Hey Darrell, can you do a comparison of the stacked humbuckers compared to their counterparts? ie. The Seymour Duncan 59' vs the little 59'....and I'm sure there are about 10 others that can be done as well. It would be fun to see if the stacked hum's sound anything like the real ones. Thanks!
VIDEO SUGGESTION, SINCE TONEWOODS DOES NOT MATTER MUCH.... PLEASE DO A VIDEO WHERE YOU USE 2 DIFFERENT BRANDS AND OUTPUT OF PASSIVE HUMBUCKERS, AND TRY TO MAKE THEM SOUND THE SAME USING THE SAME AMP, BUT TWEAK ITS E.Q. OR GAIN OR USE AN EQ PEDAL TO MAKE THEM SOUND VERY SIMILAR. THIS TEST DETERMINES THAT YOU CAN MAKE HUMBUCKERS SOUND VERY SIMILAR TO OTHER HUMBUCKERS THUS NEGATES BUYING DIFFERENT HUMBUCKERS $$$. AND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HUMBUCKERS IS JUST AN EQ SETTING AWAY
. THANKS :)
I think that the comparison is unconclusive, since playing with the "Pick of Destiny" clearly makes both humbuckers sound equally awesome, and then there's the 9v batteries versus the power supply for the pedals....jokes aside, I was only able to hear a slight difference in the high gain tones, could barely tell any difference in the overdrives and cleans, maybe it's easier to tell when you are the one playing...great stuff in any case!
@@scottmcbutters6721 I got stacked double blade ones. I would say in my opinion they sound a bit different since the width contributes to the tone. A wider magnetic field seems to mellow somehow the tone. But it would be fun to see and hear the proof from Darell.
Using this guitar for this experiment! Brilliant! Absolutely Brilliant!!
Hi Darrell, I'm not sure if you'll see this, but from what I can tell you remain pretty active in your comments section. I just wanted you to know how much I truly appreciate the work that goes into your videos. I was never, and I mean never, one to look at gear, but I quickly got sucked in after my very beginner guitar I've been playing for almost 3 years finally broke. After finding your channel, I can say with full certainty, that it is the single most direct, understandable, to the point, while also thorough, guitar channels out there. You have made my transition into a gearhead one of the most enjoyable things about my interest in guitar. Not only is your work excellent and unparalleled, your genuine love and care for guitars shows through greatly, and your amazing personality is also a huge plus. Thank you sincerely, from one of your recent and nonetheless huge fans.
I totally agree. And the fact that he doesn't let his biases (if there is some on the matter at hand) show and affect. Of course he can mention that he likes something better, but that doesn't show in those explanations and samples. Even in this video he said that you can always tweak your eq to adjust your sound (and in this case make the difference smaller or even disappear).
Dang bro so heartfelt
THANK YOU playing the comparison clips without any talking or long pauses between them!
I have said it before and I'll say it again, you always make any guitar made under any pickup or circumstance the best it could be! Both sounded pretty awesome man! Great work
Yes, using this guitar for this demonstration was perfect. I really couldn't find much difference in the tones between the two when there was any gain or distortion involved. However, on the clean tone, the one that Darrell thought was more difficult to distinguish, I thought that the uncovered sounded noticeably better.
it was clear as day which was which to me
I agree the clean one was far more noticeable but I actually preferred the covered sound on that test
I heard no difference with the mushy distorted sounds but the 3rd test was very clear: there was a lot more high end and clarity from the uncovered pick-up. Not a myth, then.
This is my favorite guitar channel because you obviously know your stuff and you love what you do. You're always smiling and positive, and a it's a pleasure to see your videos.
Darrell, amazing job dude, so thorough, I love watching your videos, keep it up!
I noticed a little more clarity from the uncovered pickup and a little more fuzz on the covered.
Thanks, now I want more guitars!
Pickup schmickup, can we talk about how DAMN GOOD the new studio looks as a backdrop!?! That's some prime accent lighting there, very cool!
The attack of the notes and being able to hear the individual ones in chords was a dead giveaway, even on bad speakers when I unplugged. The finger style was actually easiest for me to spot because the attack of the notes was different regardless of how loud you played them. This helps me a lot when I think about what I want in utility guitars. Awesome stuff!
I love your videos man. I always enjoy just hearing you speak and play. Great channel, great content.
I always enjoy your videos! I am simply in love with that Relish guitar! It’s really awesome!
I’m listening on an iPad, and it’s quite a big difference. Uncovered, it’s definitely brighter and clearer.
Awesome comparisons! Definitely can hear a direct difference.
Definetly depends on which genre you want to play and personal preferences. Both sounds great. The video is very up to the point, thank you Darrell!
Welcome back and that new studio space looks awesome! Great video as always. Would love to toy around with a Relish sometime. God bless and rock on.
Raising the polepieces on covered pickups will give a more articulate, punchy sound. Just lower the overall pickup height a bit and raise the screws to your preference. Many people never adjust the screws.
S'true! I used to fart about with the screws to get a better string balance.
That’s what I do to my bridge pickups. I usually lower it on the wound string side and raise the pole pieces on the same side. Have to play a bit and do little adjustments to fine tune it, but the result is great usually - the thin strings have a full sound and the thick wound strings cut through more.
I have a Squire and there are no screws to change the Hight of the poles. :(
I could easily identify each example from my phone, no need for high quality audio. Its subtle but really subtlety is a vast chasm when it comes to dialing in your preferred tone I think every guitarist can agree with.
Hearing is believing, I'm sure your new iso booth helped make the difference more apparent! Great sound recording when even my blown out old ears can hear the difference! Thanks bud, can't wait for the next!!!
Great job! Hands down one of the best channels on RUclips. Best regards. Thanks!
The uncovered pickups resonated more and honestly has more sustain. The covered pickups were more slightly warmer. Enjoy the video again Darrell!
I actually did this as a science experiment back in high school once since it involved magnetic fields and stuff and wasn't able to actually test it due to the inability to change my pickups, and my teacher failed me due to that! Said that since it was just based on equations and stuff instead of actual tests it was likely wrong.. well now this proved i was right this whole time
I am super curious what your results were? What differences did you find mathematically? I know this comment is old so I hope you see this lol
i love your new studio!😍❤️
Really liked the tone of the covered ones. A great video, very helpful!
Great vid. The sound difference was like night and day. Uncovered were way better. I was toying with the idea of adding covers to my pickups as I like the look. However that plan is scrapped - they are staying as they are. Thanks.
Great comparison! I was hoping you'd try the same experiment with the pickups in the bridge position. I think the tonal differences would be more apparent than in the neck position.
I took the covers off of some of my pickups, and experienced the same exact differences that I'm hearing here and that you mention, mostly in the high end seeming "brighter," with a slightly harsher and (IMHO) less pleasing tonal character. Great video, Darrell you're the best!
Great vid as always! I'd love to see one about the effect of different bridge types on sustain
Next video: Same pick up but different guitar body-
Oh you don't say! I hope he'll do it.
This pls
Fore humbuckers: Ive found a big difference with alnico 5 pickups more that other types of magnets. Not sure what you had for this vid. Ive also found using covers that have no holes for the adjustable pins makes a marked difference
yes please
Jeremy Eden,
Yeah, same body made of different woods, different finishes, plastic, bone or Delrin nut, bolt-on or set neck, CuNi, Ag, stainless, narrow, medium or jumbo frets, maple, ebony, Amazon or Indian Rosewood fingerboards, Brasillian or Phillipine Mahogany necks, underwound, or overwound, various wire-guage pups, ceramic or Alnico magnets, pole-pieces, small or large pots, paper-in-oil or orange-drop caps, import or Switchcraft switches, unshielded or shielded wiring, short or long cords, flat, round or oval-wound strings, cast, stamped or machined saddles, trapeze, thru-body or stop tailpieces?
How about amps? Solid state, hybrid or tubes? EL84s or 6L6s? Celestron, EV or Utah speakers; 10, 12 or 15(s)?
The difference is minimal in that you can change your picking slight, and get close to the same tone. Angle the pick slightly, or move it a 1/2" or so closer or farther from the bridge will change the tone. Change the position of the mic on your amp. Or adjust your amp setting slightly. In the end, we may hear a difference, but the crowd won't.
Exactly. This covers so many of the points of debate around electric guitar tone. Woods, nuts, necks, bridges,-all have a scientifically measurable impact on the signal sent to the amplifier. Many times the difference is negligible to the end listener. So many guitarists are concerned with the pissing contest of “I can hear the difference, can’t you?” That they fail to ask the important question: does the difference matter?
Obviously only audiophiles and the player will tell the difference in a controlled environment, but if having that in someone's head makes them play better or more inspired, more power to them. But that all comes down to personal preferences, and those pissing contests miss that point. Basically, if you like it and it works, do it,
Nice to see an audience-focused perception. I have 30+ guitars. Unless the change is great - acoustic to resonator - they all just sound like "a guitar" to my wife and kids. In a mix, with an engineer cutting and boosting to get the guitar to fit in with the other instruments I'm guessing the effect of most of these minor changes is zero to the listener. I prefer to concentrate on what I like about a guitar and leave the "tone paint" nonsense to people with time on their hands.
Can't forget that very little music is just dry guitar and nothing else. Even without changing anything, I'm doubtful even the person playing will be able to pick out the differences when they're playing in a band and even less likely when playing through some pedals.
Strongly disagree. The difference is game changing for anyone who has a strong opinion or preference over their guitar tone. No amount of EQ, picking or adjusting the pickup height will "dial out" a covered pickup's milky, blunt attack and closed sonic character, it's a fundamental change in the general tonality of the pickup you're getting when you put a cover on it and that change is imparted by the cover itself. The difference between covered and uncovered is night and day.
Always very informative! Thanks a lot!
Fully dig the shirt. I'll have to visit the shop. Great job as usual. Just switching over to covered here, just for the look.
Cool. I didn"t know I prefered uncovered until now. In each test, I liked the uncovered better. Thanks for the demo. Nice job.
Uncovered made more noise, covered made shielding.
For me the clean example was a clear as night and day, it was easy to hear the difference - on that result alone it's myth confirmed!!! The first example with gain was also easy to tell, the other two examples not so much. The choice of guitar to run the test on was brilliant.
I answered correctly in all tests , the sound difference is obvious and clear. Many thanks for this video.
Yup! Uncovered for me for sure! Definitely a brighter and more articulate sound and I’ve used both. Thanks Darrell for reinforcing what I’ve always believed.
I actually love that guitar. Samuraiguitarist did a video on it and its fricking brilliant.
So did daryl. i don't think either of them play the thing that often though. good for making videos like this though.
The covers provide noise shielding, which can be a problem with uncovered pickups trying to record in front of a computer or other electrically noisy environment. You may be able to tell a difference but the covers give you an important functional noise reduction.
Fascinating video as always. I was considering getting an aged cover for the DiMarzio Chopper on my Elite Strat (totally cosmetic) and probably will now. The sound quality in your new studio is amazing!
I was really surprised at how pronounced the difference was. Great video, and nice setup with the easy switch.
Was just watching the show on another video. Hhaha. Nice. Love it
I prefer the uncovered they are definitely a little brighter and more refined sounding. The covers tone/mute them down a bit.
thanks for posting darrell ,,great topic,,,really liking the new studio,you did a fantastic job,,would love a wall of guitars like that lol cheers from the land down under
I can’t hear enough to even comment which to be is very close to the same! This has always been an itch I have been wanting to scratch! Thanks Darrell!
I think I actually heard a difference that was consistent (I thought the uncovered seemed to be slightly more bright and sparkly on the high end). My question is do you think how you played them was also a factor? Because I think you sounded like you played more confidently in the uncovered takes. Whether it’s the order you played the riffs in vs maybe you heard a difference while you were playing and that affected how you played. Idk just food for thought. Cool channel and videos, definitely informative!
The difference is VERY noticable if you dig into the strings real hard. I personally prefer uncovered for bridge, covered for neck.
Yeah nothing is better than a SD JB on the bridge
I can always count on you and your channel. Even things I aren’t 100% sure I’ll find I FIND! A+..the 7 second swap to keep calibration constant was beyond. Thank you. I’m going covered. Not enough difference and like previous post puts it..”it just looks sick!”
Very useful research!!!
Although I prefer covered pickups because of their vintage look, now I can see that uncovered ones have more clear sound.
For me, it wasn't so much about the difference in Higher tones, but the separation of sound. The covered pickups sounded a bit muddier in the mids, the uncovered you could clearly hear a distinct difference in the notes played.
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Difference is negligible at best, subtle difference, matter of taste really, both sounded good. Thanks for the demo!
Great Video, great studio, great guy!
I liked the sound from the uncovered. what a guitar!!
I was able to guess correctly in all the blind tests. There is a difference. Not much of one though.
I didn't get them all, but there sure is difference. But as Darrel said, you'd probably be able to tweak that difference out with your eq, so if you like the looks better on one or the other, go for it.
Me too!
Yeah I could even guess right with All the blind test using my Smartphone speaker
@@lawineracing2541 I got them all right using a sea-shell. (OK, studio speakers)
same, yet I did it on iPhone speakers
Thanks Darrell, a really good comparison video. Totally agreed with your summary. I must admit my instincts told me to listen carefully to the higher strings as there I would hear the difference. However I don’t think I would have heard the difference if I had been listening normally.
Oh man what a great video! Thank you!
Does it matter what the covers are made of? Are there different metals used like nickel, which is less magnetic/
My question exactly. Nickel covers are about 145 on amazon from Gibson
I'm not really good at music or guitars(and I REALLY mean it) but even I can hear that uncovered ones are a bit more.. clean? Dynamic? Alive? However you'd call it to me they sound a bit better
Though the difference probably isn't big enough to be noticeable while listening to music, but I feel like that's a case in most of these small differences in instruments overall
Great comparison, one of those things guitar nerds love the most! About the results, as a Linus-type of person I definitely like it… covered! Thank you!
Darrell, that was brilliant thank you so much for the time you take to make these vids all the best from England UK
Thanks so much Doug!
Oh yeah, welcome back.
what’s up I love your videos they always bring me joy and motivate me to explore guitar more
Same bro, same
Thanks WP! 😊
Great video! I just found this, and it is a great demonstration of the subtle, yet noticeable change in the overall sound. The tone is basically the same, with a slightly edgey, and slightly louder sound on the uncovered. You might say that the covers make the sound slightly mellower, or smoother. I identified all but one correctly.
Yes some nice playing by Darrel. One of the best way to start a day.
I think it doesn't matters whether they were covered or not..!!
There is a huge difference in tone that can be noticed even with the phone speakers. But none is better than other, it's all about preference. Personally I've always loved the covered pickups because of their looks but now realized I like the sound of uncovered pickups better.
in the same phase ...
Same.
Amp ... and speaker! It's amazing how much the speakers can impact the tone. Love your vids, thanks!
Hi Darrell, Brilliant Video 👍👍👍.
I only noticed the difference when you played the Single Notes, Beautiful Playing!
Take care♥️👍.
Melbourne, Australia.
Covered pickups kinda sound a bit thicker, but crowds wont usually notice
Don't be so quick to say that. They may not know, but you have to remember that the energy in the music is in the definition, and that's what you change. Our hearing is thousands of times more sensitive to transients, time and resolution than what we can sense with touch or our eyes for example.
So when you play your music, the pickup affects how your audience perceives what you are playing. If it gets softer, brighter, bites harder, sounds louder, more distortion etc. etc. etc. it all matters a lot. There's a reason why some of the best players who ever lived are or were also gear freaks.
Not to mention sound will affect how you play. Audience may not appreciate that, but a player will be hearing and feeling it .
Just single notes
Uncovered: 5:30
Covered: 5:44
Duuude, the new setup looks amazing
Thanks!
Great experiment. It does make a subtle yet noticeable difference between them, although for me it was hard to tell if it was just the tremble. At times it felt like the covered one was a little bit fuller in the mids, and the uncovered one a little thinner by comparison. And that shift produced different results, specially with gain on. The covered one was clearer to my ears for some reason.
I do appreciate your attention to method, which is something most channels on guitar dismiss. If the point of the video is to make a statement or avaluate a hypothesis such as this, it is paramount.
This was the only test over the years I got 100% right! The covered pickups just have a tiny bit of fuzz on them that gives a little less clarity. It's super close though. Matters very little. Great test and video! Oh, and I much prefer the look of the covered ones.
Yeah I'm torn. I like the look of the covers, but the sound of the uncovered.
I guess I'm just going to need another SG....
Not enough difference to give up the extra shielding and physical protection covers give.
Cover is a lil muffled but I feel it depends more on the players dynamics.. but what does it matter the audience don't know the difference unless there all Music/Tech Nerds... if you're good enough you can fool them aswell.. Hehe...
Beautiful new studio. Same great content.
I noticed the difference on the very first test. After that, it became more subtle. Great video and definitely showed proof there is a difference, even if subtle, there is just that much more output on the uncovered. Cheers and thanks
Agreed
I got each of the blind comparisons right. There's a subtle but noticeable difference through decent headphones and with young-ish ears that don't have a built-in high-end roll-off. :-)
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Three consecutive hyphenated words. Well done.
I could reliably discern which was which using mediocre headphones and not-so-young ears...
@@RUclipsHandlesAreMoronic As could I, with none of your jump-to-a-conclusion-because-it-was-the-uncovered-pickup-first-the-last-time nonsense. And I'm a sixty-six-year-old fart.
@@Ndlanding Huh? Was that meant for me, or Dying Sun Effects?
Definitely a difference. I can tell that even with just my phone's speaker. Covered sounds cleaner to me.
To me covered sounded cleaner but uncovered sounded clearer with a bit more bite, though also a bit grittier .
Nice to see I'm not the only one to hear a difference, and from personal experience there definitely is one.
Is it enough to matter? Depends on the perspective I think.
Always great video!!
Thanks man!
Watching this cool test again, almost 4 years later... But now armed with more knowledge.
I got it right every time. The covered pickup sounded kind of more compressed, that was the giveaway.
However, since I experimented a lot with screw height in the past few years, I'm led to believe on the uncovered pickup the adjustable screws had a lower height compared to the covered pickup. We tend to make these screws flush with the pickup top, however that would mean our references are different by around 1 mm (cover thickness + gap between the slugs and the cover).
That's the kind of effect I'm hearing in your test, based on my experience adjusting the screws in the past years: nowadays I always lower down max 2 turns those on wound strings to make them sound more airy and less boomy, and perhaps take the screw on the 1st string a up to 1/2 turn higher to give my .008" a bit more presence.
The moment he took off the back of the guitar i went xd
Relish is killing it with that design. innovation that still looks beautiful
The technology is awesome but that guitar is as ugly as a run over cat!
I used the ten second skip feature so the jump back and forth between sound bytes was immediate and couldn’t really tell much difference. I thinks it’s definitely down to amp settings and aesthetics as which you’d prefer regarding covered and uncovered!
Great great content. The room is so cool!!
i got right all the tests... guess im going to take out the covers of my pickups now... liked a lot more the sound of uncovered pickups, more brighter and clean. At least in my opinion
yeah, this video was kinda shocking to me as well. Didn't think the difference would be that profound. Unfortunate the covers looks dope.
@@hNsGregrz yeah i got an epiphone sg and i think it looks just perfect with the covers... im going to take them out anyways
But are the pickups exactly the same, but for their cladding? Same windings? So many variables.
Love your channel ! I have always felt that uncovered pickups sound more clear and defined to me , but it is a subtle difference .That being said I do not like coil tapping , I prefer to just play a Fender when I want a real single coil sound . Of course , that is why I have humbucker guitars , some with covered pickups , some without . And Strats and Teles ! The same reason I have steel string acoustics and nylon stringed , plus 12 string ! Does not everybody need 17 guitars ? I know I do, and Basses and several amps . You need to do a video on baritone Ukeleles , so much fun and tuned like a guitar ! Thanks for all the great videos !
The room is tweeked to a beautiful wonderland. Just a nice room/backdrop.
I like both covered and uncovered. Slightly more low mid's with the covered IMO. I liked the uncovered for the rhythm because i lean towards the treble for the bite and cut. I think there would be less fighting for space in a mix with uncovered. I would not buy a guitar or not because of covers or lack of.
Theres just *enough* of a difference to prevent me from uncovering my neck pickup haha.
Theoretically, the reluctance (magnetic resistance) would be slightly lower with a steel cover. That's why thin steel plates are stacked together as the magnetic path for things like transformers. If the flux had to flow thru air cores, they wouldn't be nearly as efficient.
I have a hard time believing that such a small change would be detectable. It could still be the case that the magnets are slightly different strengths, the windings aren't exactly the same etc.
I was about 50/50 at trying to guess which was which by the clarity. Hell, even slight changes in how hard your were picking could account for some of that.
I got The driven and high gain tones right, but I guessed wrong on the cleans. It’s definitely not massively different. You’re also right that there might be variation between the pups other than just the covered/uncovered state.
In the 70's (I guess) it was believed that if your pickups were microphonic and had the metal cover that removing it would make them less microphonic. I don't know how it works but it's not about changing tone but about removing the microphonic qualities of the pickup. Could this be a thing man?
@@Rolli6669 That makes sense. If the pup is feeding back it's resonating. The extra weight would initially resist the shaking, but once going, the inertia of the metal lid would likely make it worse. It's like taking off in a car. Initially, it requires a lot of fuel to get going, but once you're up to speed, the inertia propels you along with a lot less energy input from the throttle.
The difference was enough to get them right after listening to them back to back but not enough to enable you to listen to a pickup alone (on a song or just alone without a comparison) and be able to tell if its uncovered or covered. Great video as always darrel and very tasty playing. personally i would mainly choose according to what looks better.
Very interesting video as usual! Surprised I could hear that much of a difference, actually. It was pretty obvious, even on laptop speakers. But I'm still gonna go for whatever looks best :-)
Some people like me likes active pickups of because of its shape instead of sound :)
That was kind of the reason why I got a guitar with active pickups lol.
I know a guy (here in Brazil) that make handmade pickups and he can make a passive pickup that looks like a active one.
@@dehasim ahahhaha interesting
@@YigitAcl yes, he made my pickup (im still newbie, but anyway) i prefer the looks of a covered pickup, but i prefer the sound of uncovered
I think showing the recorded tracks in a DAW would have helped us see the difference between the tones for sure
Thank you, Darrell
What a fantastic comparison. Originally I thought that any difference would be nominal but to my ears I definitely heard a difference. The covered pickups sounded a bit fatter to me on the 5 & 6 and the uncovered brighter on the 1 & 2. I don’t know if it was just dumb luck or my ears are getting more discerning but that’s how I felt. Keep up the great work Darrell!