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  • Do Ceramic magnets make pickups sound thin, harsh, and cold?
    Do AlNiCo magnets make pickups sound warm, sweet, and smooth? Let's find out!
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  • @stevenmgyori3826
    @stevenmgyori3826 5 лет назад +301

    Nice demonstration D! Helpful to many, Bustin' Them Myths! We're all Guilty of perpetuating them until we know Better! Well done and thanks for sharing brother!

    • @jameshill2015
      @jameshill2015 5 лет назад +1

      Tele pickups.. Noise cancelling.. DiMarzio vs Fender vs Seymore Duncan vs Lace Sensor... That would be a GREAT comparison vid!! I just ordered Seymores vintage stack.. Kinda wishing I went with Lace.. Your thoughts???

    • @iwct
      @iwct 5 лет назад +1

      James Hill in my opinion most of the negative comments about lace sensors is because people don’t like the look! It’s rumoured Jeff Beck wanted pole pieces painted on them!

    • @BlommaBaumbart
      @BlommaBaumbart Год назад

      Magnet strength influences the RLC system and that's easily shown by both physical theory and lab measurements. But it's a system, and every value is influenced by multiple things. You can make ceramic bar pickups sound warm or brittle, and things in between, no problem. You CANNOT take a single part of the system and figure out what the pickup will sound like just by that. Still, everything else being exactly the same, a Ceramic magnet, which will only have a fraction of the strength of an equally built AlNiCo V, will produce a different tone because it will shift the resonant frequency of the system.
      Whether the difference is big enough to be RELEVANT is another question, at least on a non-bass guitar with its more limited frequency spectrum. But unlike some other guitar components, difference in the magnet strength, if big enough, can actually be perceived by the ear of a regular human.

    • @guskalogeros9021
      @guskalogeros9021 7 месяцев назад

      😂

  • @curtwuollet2912
    @curtwuollet2912 3 года назад +363

    The whole industry depends on the fervent hope that whatever sounds best is whatever isn't in your guitar.

    • @springbloom5940
      @springbloom5940 3 года назад

      Well, its pretty much a given, that if you spend less than $2k on a guitar, that will be true.

    • @curtwuollet2912
      @curtwuollet2912 3 года назад +30

      @@springbloom5940 And if you spend more than $2k. It seems some people are never satisfied.

    • @springbloom5940
      @springbloom5940 3 года назад +13

      @@curtwuollet2912
      I know Ive never had anything under ~$600 that didnt benefit from relatively cheap upgrades. Particularly electronics. I just bought a $400 Jackson and got a noticeable tone improvement, with a $15 Chinese A5 humbucker. The ceramics were HOT at 16k, but flat and murky. I cut the output significantly, but got a lot more definition. I think you probably pay 20%+ for the headstock decal.

    • @curtwuollet2912
      @curtwuollet2912 3 года назад +5

      @@springbloom5940 that's great. But I doubt the manufacturers seek out junk, and decent pickups, for example, aren't very spendy

    • @springbloom5940
      @springbloom5940 3 года назад +5

      @@curtwuollet2912
      They don't seek out junk, but they do seek out 'good enough'. Pretty much any guitar under $500 is going to have the cheapest switches and pots available. That may not cost much on your end to upgrade, but it does put a pretty big hit on mass production. For example, you can much easier afford $200 of incremental upgrades, than an extra $150 on the initial purchase. Also, market drives specs. Most people buying budget instruments are going to be playing by themselves in their bedroom, the vast majority of the time. Those thicc high output ceramics go a long way to filling in for other absent instruments and give a satisfying tone. Most beginners or wild kids wouldn't be as appreciative of the relatively thin, mid centered tone of high end pickups that are meant to cut through a band.

  • @vivekbooshan9954
    @vivekbooshan9954 5 лет назад +1815

    The biggest myth in guitar history is that it gets you girls.

    • @DarrellBraunGuitar
      @DarrellBraunGuitar  5 лет назад +126

      😂😂😂

    • @MarcCoteMusic
      @MarcCoteMusic 5 лет назад +275

      A good friend of mine joked to me a long time ago, "We got into this business to get girls... and, damnit, we'll stay in it until we do."

    • @tonray9395
      @tonray9395 5 лет назад +103

      Only thing it ever got me was calls from debt collectors

    • @mayurpathak7347
      @mayurpathak7347 5 лет назад +2

      Yes 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @drothberg3
      @drothberg3 5 лет назад +6

      Certainly was a myth in my case.

  • @maureenbell5448
    @maureenbell5448 8 месяцев назад +17

    Had to put it to the Test. Recorded an open D string . Once using a ceramic pickup, once using an alnico. Lined the 2 waveforms up and compared them. The ceramic was not too far from a regular sinewave, close to a piano waveform, rolling peaks and not a lot of harmonic content. The alnico was full of jagged peaks throughout the wave much more like a violin and full of harmonic content. Ceramics give a warm sound with a lot of fundamental frequency when clean and a controlled sound at super high gain. Alnicos are full of harmonic content and top end with an incredible musical response to the way you play and I love `em.

    • @olivermirez6667
      @olivermirez6667 Месяц назад +1

      Very interesting, thank you for sharing, Maureen.

  • @9unslin9er
    @9unslin9er 5 лет назад +110

    This is specifically why I stopped engaging in guitar forums. You get guys recommending magnet swaps all day to fix a problem with "tone", and then you realize the "advisor" just sucks at playing and dialing in their amp/eq.

    • @juanvaldez5422
      @juanvaldez5422 5 лет назад +8

      yup. The worst cork sniffers usually cant play for sh*t. They also like to make strong ascertions about gear they, in reality, have NEVER EVEN OWNED

    • @Balesz36
      @Balesz36 4 года назад +1

      so true.

    • @iganpparamarta8813
      @iganpparamarta8813 4 года назад

      Alpha Centauri haha true that. Tiger vs lion, Messi vs Ronaldo, katana vs european sword and many more

    • @matthewrevell2706
      @matthewrevell2706 4 года назад +3

      Yeah I wish more people would take online music advice with a grain of salt.

    • @cadebrown2092
      @cadebrown2092 5 месяцев назад

      All eqs at noon, just a little bit of reverb.

  • @elonmush4793
    @elonmush4793 4 года назад +170

    don't trust guitar forums, only trust your ears

    • @sandb1867
      @sandb1867 4 года назад +5

      Agree. Don't listen with your eyes.

    • @sighermike
      @sighermike 3 года назад +2

      Yeah, and most people can't tell a difference.

    • @29Caly
      @29Caly 3 года назад +1

      I'm deaf

    • @qua7771
      @qua7771 3 года назад +1

      @@29Caly Do you read music?

    • @troystaunton254
      @troystaunton254 3 года назад +1

      @@qua7771 back in black was an exciting read.

  • @geetarislife2843
    @geetarislife2843 5 лет назад +370

    I don't really care about pickups that much they tend to sound the same once I run them through 3 boss metal zones and tune lower than drop F
    Im kidding btw great vid Darrel

    • @Emergentministry
      @Emergentministry 5 лет назад +17

      Lol kidding but there is a lot of truth to that! If you cram enough effects on it and eq you can even make it really hard to tell between a humbucker or a single.

    • @geetarislife2843
      @geetarislife2843 5 лет назад +1

      @@Emergentministry lol that is true tho \m/

    • @bradh6185
      @bradh6185 5 лет назад +7

      Better be running those Metal Zones through a solid state.

    • @geetarislife2843
      @geetarislife2843 5 лет назад +7

      @@bradh6185 actually your supposed to run through an amp sim... duh

    • @bradh6185
      @bradh6185 5 лет назад +1

      @@geetarislife2843 Well yeah, if you're playing at such an elite level.

  • @brianfromoregon2244
    @brianfromoregon2244 5 лет назад +214

    What did I learn from this video, “I need a Tele with a P90 in the neck!”

    • @frankfoduw-ci8rr
      @frankfoduw-ci8rr 5 лет назад +3

      Contemporary Telecaster® HH

    • @malcolmhardwick4258
      @malcolmhardwick4258 5 лет назад +4

      I put a p90 in the neck of a tele and its staying there !

    • @barbmelle3136
      @barbmelle3136 5 лет назад +4

      From Leo: The P90 is a great tone, also: Check out his video with Gretsch Fltertron style pickups on a Telecaster style guitar. That is going to be my next mod project.

    • @velvetonecustomshop5026
      @velvetonecustomshop5026 5 лет назад +1

      @velvetonestudios on instagram. Our standard Tele has a p-94 or TV Jones T-90!or T-Armound in the neck.
      Strings vibrate further physically nearer the neck pup. Therefore a wider magnetic field is better up there!

    • @christopherkaesemeyer1575
      @christopherkaesemeyer1575 5 лет назад +1

      I want a Tele with a p90 in the neck badly. I used to hate teles until I actually played one a few years ago and it was great stock but I thought the only thing better would be if it had a p90 at the neck. I'm still itching to get one

  • @jdl2180
    @jdl2180 5 лет назад +87

    They sounded a little different but both sounded very good.

  • @Case_
    @Case_ 9 месяцев назад +2

    The best I would describe the difference in sound would probably be that the Alnico sound a bit more single coil-y, with a bit of "airiness" to it, while ceramic sounds a bit more like a humbucker, slightly more "muffled" and midrange-y. But that's still rather vague, and, more importantly, the difference clearly isn't that big and the overall design of the pickup (diameter of the wire, number of winds) will have a significant impact too, probably to the point where it doesn't really matter much what magnet is used.

    • @gersh1642
      @gersh1642 9 месяцев назад +1

      Great point and well made. There's so many variables involved in tone, not least the fingers.

  • @nicholasbrosseau6035
    @nicholasbrosseau6035 4 года назад +38

    Bro, as an amature garage luthier, I really can't stress enough how great this channel actually is. Your presentation is clear. The editing is concise. Super efficient and super enjoyable! I'm hooked!

  • @diego2112gaming
    @diego2112gaming 4 года назад +9

    Bleeding love the sound of the ceramics in that Tele. Holy hells. That just sounded amazing. Warm and wonderful.

  • @jltrem
    @jltrem 5 лет назад +81

    4:41- "We'll talk about where some of these things come from."
    From guitar snobs.

  • @Matheusfk3
    @Matheusfk3 5 лет назад +25

    To my ears, alnico souded brighter, tipical strat sounding, reminds me of a clean John Mayer sound. Ceramics seemed warmer, with more low end.
    Both sounded AWESOME and had their own characteristics.
    Thank you for the great video.

    • @vuralarslandemir3163
      @vuralarslandemir3163 2 года назад +4

      Agree. Ceramic sounds like it has more body and round. Maybe bit muddy. For vintage sounds alnico is much more suited according to what i am hearing from the video.

    • @GitaraDad
      @GitaraDad 4 месяца назад

      Super human hearing lol 😆😆😆😅

  • @wmfthe5th376
    @wmfthe5th376 5 лет назад +12

    I wind my own guitar pickups, and I've made about thirty so far. I've tried different types of alnico rod magets, 2,3,4 and 5. The stronger the magnet
    strength, the louder and brighter the pickup sounds, using the same magnet diameter and length, bobbin size and turns of wire. I personally don't
    like alnico 5 magnets in Strat style pickups, because they're too bright. I don't give a damn about output, because I'm not trying to overdrive an amp,
    so I use alnico 2 and 3, mostly. I've also mixed alnico 2 and 4 in the same bobbin, which sounds very nice.
    Some cheap Squier Strats use ceramic magnets with bobbins that only measure 3.7K. They use more powerful ceramics to boost the pickup's
    output to compensate for fewer turns of wire. A slightly stronger ceramic magnet is apparently cheaper than copper wire and the additional
    time it takes to put more windings on a coil. Fewer turns of wire seems to have an effect on the attack and dynamic range of the pickup as well,
    fewer turns = faster attack and less compression/more dynamic range. These are not good things, if they don't suit your playing style. If you
    do like more attack and dynamics, then a Charlie Christian style pickup will give you that, with the heavier gauge wire on the coil augmenting
    those characteristics. I've also wound Strat style pickups with larger p90 sized bobbins and 38, 39, 40 and 41 gauge wire, FWIW, and I'm well
    aware of the effects of wire gauge as a result.

    • @DreidMusicalX
      @DreidMusicalX 4 года назад +1

      I use alnico RA5 EMG's and they sound great! You need to run an EQ pedal on them and choose the right cabinets to run them with though or they can sound brittle, chimey, or breaking glass. haha! But if you get the right ones (also depending on your amplifier you use)? They sound badass! I also like ceramic pickups as well. I like the DP100 Super distortion in a bridge and DP104 in the neck. Some like the dp103 PAF in the neck.

  • @kjemradio
    @kjemradio 5 лет назад +4

    This is EXACTLY why I trust what my EARS HEAR vs the uneducated online forums. I've been a bass player for almost 30 years, and the myths like this are so discouraging for new generations of guitarist and bassists. Many factors come into play with sound. Room dynamics, pickups, type of amp, the way you play the instrument. Sound is subjective and EVERYONE hears sound differently. So test many combinations until you find what you love and what sounds best to your ears.
    Thank you Darrell for the video. It is a great starting point. :-)

  • @curtiswilliams2844
    @curtiswilliams2844 5 лет назад +6

    100% agree I just purchased a squire contemporary jazz bass with ceramic active pickups and it’s soo much warmer then anything I played before. I’m pro ceramic from now on 👍🏻

  • @mpogze8020
    @mpogze8020 4 года назад +2

    The best ‘myth buster’ video you have done was the tone wood comparison where you chopped up the guitar. Only very minor nearly imperceptible differences. Thanks again Darrell. Just play what feels and sounds good to you.

  • @egecakmakci1583
    @egecakmakci1583 5 лет назад +24

    What i always love about this channel is all the content is real stuff. This guy knows what he's talking about and what he's doing of course. İ always find what im looking for in the content of the video. Never disappointed. Keep up the awesome work Darrell ! Loves from Turkey

  • @taxo
    @taxo 5 лет назад +46

    Some of the coolest recorded guitar sounds come from ceramic magnet loaded pickups. Old Gibson dirty fingers pickups were ceramic loaded (and John Sykes wrote some badass chops there), Ace Frehley from KISS used DiMarzio SuperDistortion extensively and he got great crunchy tones as well. Ritchie Blackmore in his first Rainbow era played with Schecter Monstertones, which were/are ceramic tapped single coils. Rhoads and Lynch both did great use of the Duncan Distortion back in the day . Joe Barden made a lot of great sounding ceramic pickups as well. No reason to bash the entire category

    • @fortj3
      @fortj3 5 лет назад +3

      You make an excellent point. I don't think anyone can argue with the tones Frehley, Sykes, Blackmore, Rhoads, and Lynch put out.
      They also happen to be some of my favorite guitarists.

    • @taxo
      @taxo 5 лет назад +4

      @@fortj3 I almost forgot. Brian May played Trisonic single coils. Ceramic magnet in there as well.

    • @bjl1000
      @bjl1000 5 лет назад +1

      My opinion is flux is flux and the difference is in the strength of the magnet. Stronger magnets should dampen sustain because of eddy currents.

    • @scod3908
      @scod3908 Год назад

      ​@@bjl1000 You're ignoring the shape of the field. The ceramic magnet stuck to the back will have a different field shape vs the alnico poles.

  • @KenTeel
    @KenTeel 2 года назад +4

    Thanks ! Good demo. Ceramics are better for distortion (they overdrive easier and have a warmth to their sound.) Alnicos are better for clarity (They are clearer sounding, but don't have the warmth of a ceramic pickup.) Which one you use, depends on the style of music that you are playing and/or where you want your guitar part to sit in the mix. Want clarity: use alnico. Want warmth and distortion: use ceramic.

  • @rars0n
    @rars0n 5 лет назад +6

    I just watched the speaker video before this one (AlNiCo vs ceramic) and after watching both, I must say that I'm shocked by how much of a difference the magnet made in both instances. I did, for the most part, prefer the sound of the AlNiCo speaker, even though the ceramic one still sounded good, but in this instance, I think the ceramic pickups sound better. I'll still do listening tests before buying, but I'll probably be more likely to stick with ceramic magnets when it comes to the pickups.
    Great video!

  • @gator8r69
    @gator8r69 5 лет назад

    Without a doubt the most honest and comprehensive pick up sound demonstration I've seen so far. The basic function of a pickup is to turn string vibration into an electronic signal that can be sent to the front of an amplifier to be manipulated by gain and eq then amplified or made louder. Simple concept, magnet reacts to string vibration and sends that reaction through multiple windings of wire for a typical -20db signal gain. The magnet strength and number of wire windings and wire gauge determine the output of the pick up. The acronym Alnico stands for (al) aluminum, (ni) nickel, (co) cobalt. This metal alloy accepts a certain level of magnetization and looses it's magnetic field over time. This suggests that the Alnico pick up will deliver reduced output over time. Ceramic accepts a stronger level of magnetization and suffers no lose over time. After market pick up manufacturers invest a lot of time and money experimenting and marketing. I've never come across a $110 pick up that had more mojo than a $30 pick up just because a well known person was paid to endorse it. An easy trick to help determine pick up output is to test it for resistance with a volt/ohm meter. The higher the resistance reading, the greater the output. I like the way the sound clips moved quickly for instant sound comparison. The ceramic are noticeably higher output. This will at a certain point slightly overload an amplifier input resulting in slight break up of the signal. A slightly overdriven sound. Want to clean it up? How about a slight adjustment of that variable resister on the front of the guitar, good ole volume pot. Sound a little brighter than your ear would prefer? Change the value of the tone capacitor which is merely a high frequency filter. Even though your tone control lives on 10, the signal is still passing through that capacitor and makes a tonal difference. Hopefully I am staying in bounds with the spirt of myth busting. Ultimately you need to allow your ears to judge.

  • @argylekennethdobbinsiii1565
    @argylekennethdobbinsiii1565 4 года назад +57

    Much of the difference in Ceramic vs Alnico is that usually they are of different strengths in magnets. And people fail to realize you have to adjust pickup height to compensate.

    • @traviswrigg5158
      @traviswrigg5158 2 года назад +9

      Yup yup yup. Electro mechanically, the magnets and the strings don't care what chemical composition the magnet is made up of, they care about the maxwells and inductance of the pickup. YES that's a function of the chemical composition in use, but it's also a function of the positioning, the number of coils, the size of the magnets used, the material of the pole pieces used to transfer the magnetic field from the ceramic bar magnet, the size of the magnetic filament, the chemical composition of the strings you're using, the age of all of these things. There's just too many factors to say any one exact thing is the reason you're hearing what you're hearing from a guitar. You can do controls like this where you have two pickups with the same coils and the same positioning but a different magnet, but all of these things can be compensated away somewhere else unless you've done something to make a total pastiche of what you started with (lipstick tube pickups come to mind, where the shielding of the housing and lack of pole pieces severely limits how much you can compensate for the magnet's chemical composition)
      The guitar world and the audiophile world are filled the placebos, things we convince ourselves do things because we already think they do things. The most controversial of which is that in blind tests, what material you make a solid guitar body of doesn't matter so long as it's sufficiently stiff to support the neck (and nearly all of them are). We want to believe that building a telecaster out of maple instead of alder or ash will sound different, or that the polyester coats that CBS Fender started using will restrict the wood's ability to resonate the sounds, but the truth is, how the pickups are picking up the sound (by creating a magnic field and disturbances in that magnetic field to create an electrical current), how the guitar body sounds doesn't impact anything except for that perhaps very slightly a less stiff wood will absorb some of the strings vibrations thus reducing the overall sustain of your instrument.
      Ultimately, what determines how good your guitar sounds is a stiff high quality neck, a good setup, the pickups, and the electronics in that order. And when I say the pickups in that list, I don't even mean better or worse. Just different in terms of setup and what you'll be able to draw from it based on that setup (because I want to make clear, the radical difference in topology for a humbucker and a lipstick tube pickup means you can probably never reconcile them via setup)

    • @scod3908
      @scod3908 Год назад +2

      @@traviswrigg5158 The shape of the field between ceramic and alnico is different. The magnet stuck on the back of the ceramic vs the open rear poles on alnico will have a different field shape. Notably, affecting one side of the field warps the other, magnets are wierd.

    • @StevieZero
      @StevieZero Год назад +1

      @@traviswrigg5158 😴

  • @DarrellBraunGuitar
    @DarrellBraunGuitar  5 лет назад +96

    These are my favourite videos to make - bustin' some myths :)
    Is this one you guys had heard before?
    If you have any "common misconceptions" you want me to challenge let me know in the comments!

    • @stankfanger1366
      @stankfanger1366 5 лет назад +9

      I had a front row seat on the Alnico bandwagon for way too many years, turning my nose up at everything ceramic that came along, no matter what. I thought people that made ceramic pickups were building junk the easy way with cheaper parts and a faster process that resulted in an inferior sound. Alnico magnets required love and care, attention to detail, and a love of the knowledge of how to build a pickup correctly. To be fair, I was hit on the head a lot as a child. Honestly, though, while I could have gone the rest of my life without this being dispelled, I do love learning stuff. Again, Mr. D, a great video.
      I don't guess you'd dare to do the ultimate myth video, would you? Do you dare? Could you even say the word in a video without breaking the web? I dare you. Come on, say it! Say it!
      _TOOOOOOOOOOOOOONEWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD_
      🙈🙉🙊

    • @ferrinbonn
      @ferrinbonn 5 лет назад +5

      No one component of a pickup's construction will dictate the tone. Look at the product listings for Seymour Duncan and DiMarzio. There are only a few types of magnets that are used in pickups and tons of flavors of pickups. There are too many variables to be able to predict how a pickup will sound just by looking at magnet type or DCR or any other single point.
      The best way to find a pickup that will be good for you is to first identify what you want to change. If you have a vintage sounding PAF already, you're likely not going to see a drastic change by getting another vintage sounding PAF. But if you know you want something brighter, or darker, or hotter, that gives you an idea of where to go. Then find a builder that has a ton of info and some good sound clips. That's why I like Duncans. Their website is great, the EQ curves they list for each pickup are pretty true to form, and they have good clips that allow you to compare their different models.
      That being said, the wood in each guitar is different and you don't know exactly how a pickup will play until you get it in there.

    • @DarrellBraunGuitar
      @DarrellBraunGuitar  5 лет назад +4

      😄 👍
      Great comment!
      Almost every boutique maker offers some form of ceramic pickup too. People would never know as they just sound like great pups :)

    • @ianmiller4195
      @ianmiller4195 5 лет назад +6

      I've noticed when people disprove the myth about, "You need to start on an accoustic." They almost overcorrect and might make someone who wants to play accoustic decide they need to start on an electric. This is easily fixed by adding the statement "Start out on whatever appeals to you."

    • @kenthomas1613
      @kenthomas1613 5 лет назад +2

      Why aren’t there any neodymium magnet pickups? Wouldn’t they be great for pickups?
      Also, for another myth busting episode how about nuts? Brass vs Bone!

  • @joseislanio8910
    @joseislanio8910 4 года назад +5

    I recently found some interesting pickups in an old used guitar I bought very cheap. The guitar is from a Brazilian brand called status, that existed during the 80, and made lower quality cheap guitars.
    The pickups were dead, but interestingly, they had ceramic magnets, but not like you normally see today. Instead of steel slugs and a ceramic bar, there was 6 cylindrical magnets, with the same dimensions of alnico magnets, but ceramic. So I tried replacing the alnico slugs from a pickup and it sounded the very same. By the way, they were weaker ceramic magnets, measuring virtually the same as the alnico ones, according to the phone gaussmeter.
    By that, I think the difference we usually hear when comparing alnico and ceramic is more related to the distribution of the magnetic field around the pickup, more than anything else.

    • @markdavis4754
      @markdavis4754 3 месяца назад

      Not sure if its the same company but Status made basses and guitars in England since the 80s maybe before. They where considered high end.

    • @joseislanio8910
      @joseislanio8910 3 месяца назад

      @@markdavis4754 the one I got is certainly not high end, so I assume those are different companies

  • @genesevox7403
    @genesevox7403 4 года назад +4

    Sometimes harsh, brittle and gnarly is a good thing. Some of Neil Young's guitar work sounds like that - and I love it.

  • @bradbutcher5961
    @bradbutcher5961 3 месяца назад

    Found this 5 year old video to be still so very usefull. Thank you! Excellent objectivity and excellent playing.

  • @garymanis6305
    @garymanis6305 5 лет назад +3

    Wow. That Tele sounded absolutely awesome with either magnet. Nice job busting the myth, too.

  • @Craig52-zq1bt
    @Craig52-zq1bt 3 месяца назад +2

    Ever since I found you on RUclips, I have followed your videos. Excellent information every time.
    I am 72, been playing guitar for 60 years. Been in two BIG touring bands.
    I REALLY enjoy your videos, Thank You.

  • @afuriousblackman
    @afuriousblackman 5 лет назад +36

    Please title this as Ceramic vs Alnico mythbusters. People need to see this video when researching pickups!! Great vid nonetheless

  • @alexrose8464
    @alexrose8464 5 лет назад +20

    You're such a Canadian I love it

    • @kevinjokipii4260
      @kevinjokipii4260 5 лет назад +3

      Soary, I have no idea what you're talking aboat.

    • @singletonepickups
      @singletonepickups 5 лет назад

      All depends on what alnico is used. Alnico 2, smooth and warm. Alnico 5, bright and strong. Alnico 4, in between 2 and 5 in tone and power. Alnico 3 old broadcaster tone...Keith Richard's tone when overwound to around 11k.

    • @J__C__
      @J__C__ 4 года назад

      What are you talking aboot? 🤣

  • @VeganGorilla555
    @VeganGorilla555 5 лет назад +10

    Now that I've seen the comparison side by side I can honestly say that I prefer the ceramic over alnico.

    • @flotron
      @flotron 10 месяцев назад +1

      I came here to agree but the demo prove me that alnico is better. Did a blind a test

    • @jordimateubartroli951
      @jordimateubartroli951 5 месяцев назад

      You can't prefer ceramics or alnicos, in general. You can prefer a certain pickup, with ceramic o alnico magnets.

  • @DJBuglip
    @DJBuglip 3 года назад

    That first example, MiUSA vs. MiM, made your point so clearly we could've ended the discussion right there, Darrell. Thanks for debunking the false claims.

    • @DJBuglip
      @DJBuglip 3 года назад

      The other thing nobody seems to factor in is how much difference pots and caps make. I see discussions in guitar build and repair groups, and the first suggestion everybody has when somebody starts complaining about tones is "change your pickups". I replaced pots and used a bigger cap when I did some work on my Cort V, and completely brought all sorts of things out of those pickups they never had before, lots of treble and clarity on the high end that just wasn't there for the first 2+ decades.

  • @ScottANovak
    @ScottANovak 5 лет назад

    In 1973 I replaced the ALNICO magnets with ceramic in my ES335's T-Top humbuckers. I also cut out the centers of the pickup covers. I thought it was an improvement in the sound and never heard any of this alleged "brittleness". Your test confirms what I heard. The ceramic tone is actually a bit warmer. Between the brighter tone of the cutout pickup covers and the warmer tone of the ceramic magnets I have a sound that I like. I nearly always use the neck pickup.

  • @lazaglider
    @lazaglider 5 лет назад +112

    I’d love to see you expend on this, similar tests for alnico 2, 3, 4, 5 etc

  • @chuckvt5196
    @chuckvt5196 5 лет назад +29

    Myth destroyed!! Thank you!

  • @MarioBohorquezE
    @MarioBohorquezE 5 лет назад +23

    Another myth: Shielding eliminates single coil hum.

    • @Hickeroar
      @Hickeroar 3 года назад +3

      Yeah, that’s a weird one to me. It just cuts interference from outside sources that can cause static or other anomalies. 60 cycle hum doesn’t come from outside interference.

    • @bciecko1
      @bciecko1 3 года назад +2

      Forgive me for the 2-years-out reply. Haha.
      This is true but there is a caveat. While it can't get rid of 60 cycle hum it can greatly reduce hum from outside sources. And when those outside sources are all but totally eliminated then one realizes that 60 cycle hum is nowhere near as loud or bothersome as once believed. At a clean setting playing at volumes suitable for a living room the guitar can be almost dead quiet. Mine are. While the statement of yours is true it's also a touch misleading but so is thinking it eliminates all hum. I have.peopel that bring guitars over for work and they ask for shielding and I explain it won't cut all but can can reduce some, if not a lot from outside sources as it sits in what is essentially a Faraday cage.

    • @Phoenix_cataclysm_in_2040
      @Phoenix_cataclysm_in_2040 2 года назад

      It does eliminate it though. I know how my Strats sound before and after copper tape shielding. They went nearly silent. After all, Fender uses shielding paint for their cavities for a reason, if it doesn't work - why use it?

    • @bciecko1
      @bciecko1 2 года назад +1

      @@Phoenix_cataclysm_in_2040 "...nearly silent..." Is the point. Cut out all the other him and frequency gibberish making it in and one finds that 60 cycle hum isn't that loud in a low to moderately volumed set-up. It's still there though. Have a tube amp, like a Princeton, on 2, with a properly shielded angle coils guitar and it'll likely sound as quiet as a humbucker. Crank that volume up and you'll hear a little change in the hum. It won't be bad. You didn't get rid of 60 cycle hum you got rid of outside interference.

    • @Phoenix_cataclysm_in_2040
      @Phoenix_cataclysm_in_2040 2 года назад

      @@bciecko1
      You do you.

  • @52goldtop
    @52goldtop 5 лет назад +2

    First electric guitar I ever got as a kid was an MIJ Squier ‘Wayne’s World’ 62 OlyWhite Strat... it had ceramic Strat pickups in it and sounded killer; true single coil vintage vibes coming out of those with a 5-way... cool comparison, fun vid to watch, thx for taking the time. Side note on the whole subject, the Ceramic/Alnico Hybrid, like in those Tony Iommi pickups are a trip too...

  • @marcospintor1333
    @marcospintor1333 2 года назад +5

    I switched from ceramic to alnico on my strat and immediately smiled when i played the first E chord. It was chime-y, bright, sparkly and exactly what i was looking for. I thought ceramic was too warm and muddy

    • @michaelmilburn3094
      @michaelmilburn3094 Год назад

      I did like the characteristic of Alnico sound, but probably because it was thinner and brighter or even "scooped" sounding. I used to buy and fix up old worn out and beat up guitars on ebay - usually replacing electronics - and I got one that I loved the sound of that sounded very different than many I got. Based on this video I'm thinking that maybe alnico magnet pickups might've been what I was hearing.

  • @InvasionSurvivor
    @InvasionSurvivor 5 лет назад +4

    One thing you have to consider about this test is usually the comparisons drawn online differ from like a basic tier Squier versus a Fender Custom pickup. Often they are jaded by bad potentiometers to start, but I would say Squiers ceramic pickups arent exactly the most juicy sound.

  • @robertlucas9867
    @robertlucas9867 5 лет назад +5

    Great video. I definitely loved the ceramic more. I would say ceramic is warmer, mid or balanced EQ and alnico is more bright like it is EQ'd for treble and has more clarity. But both sound great. Neither was harsh. Great depending on style.
    Love the videos.

  • @stevejeffryes5086
    @stevejeffryes5086 5 лет назад +56

    Yeah, those magnetic fields do not know or care who their parents are

    • @stoosam3244
      @stoosam3244 4 года назад +5

      Haha...THAT'S what it boils down too.
      I wonder if the field shapes are different...eg. the metal base of a tele bridge single makes the magnetic field more 'bell' shaped (looking at it as a cross section). This changes the sound and rounds it, compared to a strat single. So the tele was prefered for rock by many. Maybe the base loaded ceramic pups have a similar pattern (? I will have to research this now)

    • @carlosclaptrix
      @carlosclaptrix 4 года назад +3

      You should never forget where you come from! Bad bad magnetic fields!

    • @Elcarsh
      @Elcarsh 4 года назад +2

      @@carlosclaptrix I'm still electron from the block!

    • @69steve2003
      @69steve2003 3 года назад

      @@stoosam3244 You can pour some iron filings on it to see the pattern

    • @KenTeel
      @KenTeel 3 года назад

      They may not know who their parents are, but alnico and ceramics certainly sound different.

  • @volkersessler8976
    @volkersessler8976 3 года назад

    Trust your ears Not what other people say.
    After this demo i changed my mind totally. I was overwhelmed by the Sound of Wilkinson Humbuckers in his V100 Icon Guitars, i thought they sounded way better, more round and smooth mellow tone than the Epiphone les paul models.
    Now i found out they were not Alnico but ceramic material, i unterstand now. Thanks for this, Darrell.

  • @devanggiri8482
    @devanggiri8482 3 года назад

    Darrell will make us believe, listen it, feel it, then make it right!
    Don't believe on such descriptions, Darrell is here to burst out all myths!
    Love your channel Darrell!

  • @robinbebbington7063
    @robinbebbington7063 5 лет назад +21

    The ceramic pickups just seemed fuller to my ears and I preferred them over the alnico pickups

  • @jerryatkinson7155
    @jerryatkinson7155 10 месяцев назад +4

    The difference I heard between the 2 was definition of the notes was clearer with the Alnico. Especially the crunch tones, the ceramics sounded muddier.I've played ceramic pick ups that just sounded great, and then some not so much.

  • @AmerikkkaGuitars
    @AmerikkkaGuitars 3 года назад +5

    Thanks for breaking the myth. Bought a bunch of wilkinson p90s that sound great as ceramic. I'm a luthier and am guilty of the alnico myth. Was about to spend all this time upgrading the magnet to alnico. But I actually do prefer ceramic p90s.

  • @tonydrozdjek
    @tonydrozdjek 4 года назад +2

    Hey Darrell! Love your videos!
    Here is a topic for you to check out: Scale leinght - difference between Strat 25,5", PRS 25", Les Paul 24,75", Fender Mustang 24", Gibson Byrdland 23,75" Peavey T30 23"
    Do they need different gauges to get the right sound?
    Can a shorter scale affect the tone?
    Or maybe some other questions?

  • @jakejuntilla1752
    @jakejuntilla1752 4 года назад +2

    I literally needed this video. I have been planning to change the stock pick ups on my squier bullet which have cheap ceramic and scratchy pickups. This led me to believe that ceramics tend to have that tone characteristic.

  • @erikbanuelos8616
    @erikbanuelos8616 5 лет назад +75

    Wonder how those pick ups would look through a wave graph on a recording software.

    • @jesus_talks
      @jesus_talks 4 года назад +20

      That's what I'm hoping people start doing in their reviews. The words say nothing to me: clappy, bright, muddy. Don't know what that means. Show me a graph associated with the sound and I'll understand that.

    • @ianbraganza3065
      @ianbraganza3065 4 года назад +3

      Totally agree! I think what Darrell mentioned about focusing on eq profile etc... is definitely the way to go

    • @qua7771
      @qua7771 3 года назад +3

      There is a learning curve to reading that kind of graph, and knowing what it translates to in a real world scenario. It's easier to listen to what they sound like.

    • @resterjp
      @resterjp 2 года назад

      Maybe we should ask Brian Wampler? He does that all of the time, only with pedals, on his channel.

    • @ErebosGR
      @ErebosGR 2 года назад +2

      Ceramic: mid-scooped
      Alnico: balanced/mid-boosted

  • @FabiansTinyWorkshop
    @FabiansTinyWorkshop 5 лет назад +17

    Great Video!!! Thank you for spreading the message to a wider audience :)
    I have guitars with AlNiCo pickups and Ceramic pickups and they all sound great.
    Of cause there are a lot of bad ceramic pickups out there especialy on budget guitares where the factory did not so much care about the sound but about saving money, but that's also true with cheap alnico pickups. It's more the cheap pot metal rods and the thin low-quality

    • @self4autism333
      @self4autism333 3 года назад

      I do love my ceramic pickups, love them. Its just that this video has made me think they could be even better. The bullet pickups i have are only 3.5k. This is ridiculouuuus. However i just turn the bass on 10, mids on 0, treble on 5 and turn the tone knob on guitar onto about 5. I also use a scooped eq on my od/ ds pedal. then you get this vintage extreme articulation. Super expressive and its possible to get the jazzy tele sound on a strat this way. Maybe the 3.5 k is actually a better match for the ceramics. Mine sound really natural and pleasant this way. The other thing that seems to help is 500k pots, eventhough this doesnt seem logical to do.

  • @yjmsrv
    @yjmsrv 5 лет назад +3

    Personally I can hear a bigger difference then I thought I would. I prefer the AlNiCo over the Ceramic in all cases you presented- the Ceramic sounded like they had a blanket over the amp- they were more "muffled" is how I would describe the tone- but not necessarily "bad" - just less definition I think. Funny because they are supposed to be harsh and brighter- I'd say they sounded exactly the opposite- much warmer (muffled though) and less bright. I feel like the AlNiCo was a much more musical and pleasing tone. Noticeably for me anyway.

  • @minhamusica80
    @minhamusica80 5 лет назад +1

    Perfect analysis. Companies do not tell the truth, they need excuses to charge higher. Great "myth buster" series, few on the market have courage to tell the truth about wood, alnico/ceramic, etc.

  • @deanryder4922
    @deanryder4922 4 года назад

    Fellow Canuck here love your videos a cut above from what’s out there .Keep up the great work ,eh !!!!

  • @sagus_mage
    @sagus_mage 5 лет назад +3

    Peavey Super Ferrites are ceramic and are some of the best sounding pickups ever made. Super clean, warm, articulate and refined like a vintage piano.

  • @michaelconnerlone5668
    @michaelconnerlone5668 5 лет назад +12

    You are right Darrell, the internet is full of this gear bs. By the way, both magnet configurations sounded great to me. Nice work man, and have always loved your telecaster, beautiful looking rock machine.

  • @dontderockmeriz4546
    @dontderockmeriz4546 5 лет назад +10

    My Gibson V has 498r/500t ceramic pickups. They ROCK! My best sounding guitar.

    • @StringTension
      @StringTension 5 лет назад +2

      496r/500t = I have them too but you cant say they're not harsh sounding. I have them in a 93 Les Paul Studio and its great for metal but it really doesn't sound nice for blues.

    • @odallard
      @odallard 5 лет назад +2

      Brutus Marcus Brutus Marcus Yep, harsh but can be quite musical - 490R + 498T if you’re going for a smoother tone.

    • @dontderockmeriz4546
      @dontderockmeriz4546 5 лет назад +1

      Brutus, my 94 studio has the 490/498 combo. Better for blues, but for rocking the roof off I’ll take 496/500 ceramics all day long.

    • @jacobbrown1690
      @jacobbrown1690 5 лет назад

      thats whay ceramics are for lol

    • @JoeBaermann
      @JoeBaermann 5 лет назад

      490R/498T combo works fine for metal too, off with the covers and adjust them poles, then screw the pups all the way down and raise them slowly until they pronounce pinch harmonics with ease, if rythm sound isn't tight enough consider a thicker pick made out of delrin or simular.

  • @Fogertian
    @Fogertian 5 лет назад

    THIS IS .... THE VIDEO. All the truth right to our ears ... to the brain !
    No words to convince the crowd.
    This guy has done a PERFECT video !

    • @briancoyne6700
      @briancoyne6700 Год назад

      This isn't scientific. You don't have the same pickup windings. You don't have the same capacitors. You don't have the same pickup height nor the same guitar for that matter. It's anecdotal.

  • @josedominguez7721
    @josedominguez7721 5 лет назад

    It took me years to discover my type of microphones. Years. I had 12 guitars. Casino, Sheraton, Les Paul, Telecaster, Stratocaster, Jazzmaster ... always betting on alnico. A few months ago I was suspecting that ceramics were the right ones. I left the prejudice, I searched, and today I have a Fender Jaguar Classic Player HH. It's my sound. It was always ceramic and I never gave it a chance. Of course I enjoy the alnico (I have a Fat Strat Alnico II). But myths make us make mistakes. Ignorance is the worst deal. Your channel is the right place to grow and advance in guitar experimentation. God bless you!

  • @enidsnarb
    @enidsnarb 3 года назад +3

    Fralin uses ceramic in his noiseless dual bar Strat pickups and Seymour uses them in the humbuckers that fit in a strat space , both sound fantastic !

  • @lloydpittonet
    @lloydpittonet 5 лет назад +8

    Always prefered ceramic pups. The whole vintage craze was always lame to me, so I avoided them that way, but I just prefer the sound.
    Thanks for confirming these things

  • @SovereignOne
    @SovereignOne 4 года назад +11

    One single description: Ceramic are not as chimey.
    They have more middle tone.

  • @robertm2000
    @robertm2000 5 лет назад

    I have a set of Pete Biltoft Vintage Vibe pickups in my guitar - a solid body Fender Squier 51. The Biltoft pickups have interchangeable magnets - you can swap out magnets in about 15 seconds. Pete Biltoft supplies magnets for his pickups that are Alnico 2, 3, 5, and ceramic. What I have found is that there is a subtle difference between the types of magnets, mostly in the high frequencies. Alnico 2 has the least treble response and the ceramic magnets have the most treble, with possibly a slightly less prominent midrange in the ceramics as well. The difference isn't very big, no more than a couple of db's between the different kinds of magnets. With a good amp you can make the pickups with any type of magnet sound very much like any other pickup. Biltoft's pickups have a full sound that can closely match bumbuckers, even though the Biltoft pickups are single coil! I don't care much for debates about which pickups are "better." When I ordered the pickups Pete Biltoft spent a fair amount of time with me on the phone, making sure he knew exactly what sound I wanted from the pickups. And he delivered!

  • @mikenorman6697
    @mikenorman6697 5 лет назад

    Always thought that alnico magnet pickups had more clarity and articulation than ceramic magnet pickups.Your video proves this. In your video, the ceramic magnet pickups to my ears sound more muddy, less dynamic, less interesting. I suspect in a mix or a live band setting it would be harder to distinguish what a guitar part was actually doing if ceramic pickups were used compared to alnico. I think that could be why Fender's latest basic Mexican Strats and Teles (the new Player range) that have replaced the old Standard range now have alnico pickups instead of the ceramic pickups the old Standard range had installed. I have played a new Mexican Fender Player Strat against a new Mexican Fender Standard Strat in a shop going through the same amp. The new Player Strat sounded far more "stratty" to my ears. I also got one of the guys in the shop to swap between the 2 guitars while I looked away and couldn't see which guitar he was playing. It was very easy to tell them apart! If you want more output or a thicker sound than you can get from alnico single coil pickups - I'd say you would be better off going down the P90 or humbucker route (still using alnico pickups) - and base your choice on output levels near-ish to those you'd expect from single coil pickups.

  • @joeanderson0007
    @joeanderson0007 3 года назад +8

    The ceramic pick up basically sounded like the alnico with the treble turned down.... So the Alnico sounded much more open and for me, better. The only sample I thought the ceramic sounded better was the high gain/crunch chords you played. But, you can probably just dampen the treble a bit on the alnico to smoothen that out. You can’t open up the ceramic any further, therefore it is limited compared to the alnico. My two cents

    • @shaky_lifts
      @shaky_lifts Год назад +1

      You can lower the volume and with a treble bleed there will be more highs coming out.

    • @lessthanpinochet
      @lessthanpinochet 10 месяцев назад

      Agreed. I had a p90 with ceramic pickups which was very midrangey and sounded good with high gain but sounded lifeless with more vintage Marshall type of gain. Once I swapped it out with an alnico 2 p90, it was the best classic p90 sound that I've ever heard even with high gain. The difference between A2 and ceramic when it comes to output and midrange bump is massive.

  • @woodshome11
    @woodshome11 4 года назад +3

    The ASAT with ceramic pickups was my favorite by far.

  • @CoolDudeClem
    @CoolDudeClem 5 лет назад +4

    The AlNiCo magnets definitely have more bite and clarity and sounded good for the louder stuff. The ceramic magnets sounded better on the softer stuff.

  • @pharmerdavid1432
    @pharmerdavid1432 4 года назад

    Thanks Darrell, that was very enlightening. The alnico pickups sounded good, but the ceramic magnet pickups sounded GREAT. Phillip McKnight said he prefers Mexican stratocasters with ceramic magnet pickups over American Strats with alnico pickups, calling the ceramics fuller with more bite (if I recall correctly). Larry Cragg used to put big ceramic magnets in Carlos Santana's SG Special's P-90's, to give him his huge sustain, along with the souped-up Princeton Reverbs Randall Smith was making at the time, soon to become Mesa Boogies. Larry and Randall worked at Prune Music in San Rafael at the time, and sold/serviced instruments to rock stars throughout the SF Bay area. I bought my first strat from Prune Music in 1974, a white hardtail with maple neck, and black pickguard with black pickup covers, which I thought looked cool. Fender did some strats like that back then, but most pickup covers were white. Too bad I didn't keep the strat (sigh).
    This reminds me of the alnico speaker magnet vs ceramic speaker magnet question. People used to say alnico was better, but now it seems most use ceramic magnet speakers. I put a ceramic Weber 10F150 in my 1959 GA-18, to replace the stock Jensen P10R, and it was a huge improvement - good choice for a Princeton too. The ceramic magnet Weber 12F150 which replaced the Italian Jensen P12N speaker in my Deluxe Reverb clone sounds much better too. Both alnico speakers sounded good, but the ceramic speakers sound GREAT. I know there is much more to a pickup and speaker than the magnet, but since the inexpensive ceramic magnet pickups sounded better than the more expensive alnico pickups, it must be the magnets that made the big difference - no?
    Cheers!

  • @karlclark8625
    @karlclark8625 3 года назад +1

    I have ceramic pickups in my made in favourite guitar and I wouldn't describe the sound they produce as brittle etc. I think your bang on busting these ancient myths. Crack on making awesome videos.

  • @Onlygodknowswhy2
    @Onlygodknowswhy2 5 лет назад +3

    just like tonewood on solid body electric guitars. We use alder cause its warm and balances well with maple. More advertising buzz words that make you feel good.
    They dont want you to know the wood they choose is cheap to buy and easy on their tools.

  • @billhillard
    @billhillard 4 года назад +3

    I preferred the alnico. One minor critique Mr. Braun... it is pronounced al-nih-co. Not al-nee-co. Anico stands for ALuminum NIckle and CObalt which is the composition of the magnet. Hence AL, NI, CO. Thank you for the video.

    • @jimherleva4541
      @jimherleva4541 3 года назад

      One minor critique: it’s Aluminium, not aluminum.
      You don’t say magnesum or potassum do you!? Stupid Merriam-Webster rubbish.

    • @billhillard
      @billhillard 3 года назад

      @@jimherleva4541 As an American in America the proper pronunciation/spelling is the one that I used. But you know that and I know that you're joking, but I replied with this anyway.

  • @guitarandstuff
    @guitarandstuff 5 лет назад +13

    I think you should do a live show together with @PhillipMcNight. I think that would be simply awesome watching you both guys talk guitar!!!

    • @jono4708
      @jono4708 5 лет назад +1

      And you get to take a break from that Canadian winter and head on down south! Or maybe Phil likes the ski!!

    • @DarrellBraunGuitar
      @DarrellBraunGuitar  5 лет назад +2

      😁👍

  • @coltonmuri3672
    @coltonmuri3672 Год назад +1

    Another reason this myth might be repeated is from the 2 popular active pickups from EMG: the 81 and 85. The 81 is ceramic and it fits most of those descriptors. It is more bright, intense attack, lower output (it has to be raised exremely close to the strings to sound right). The 85 with Alnico 5 has a higher output, more of a balanced sound with the bigger low end.

  • @MintStiles
    @MintStiles 4 года назад

    I asked a local winder to wind some pickups according to a described sound, no restrictions on what he can use. He came back with a ceramic assymetircal humbucker that is the best sounding blues/Jazz pickup. DiMarzio often use ceramic pickups that I prefer over competitors. I've always though SD pickups difficult to get an attractive sound out of. With Gibson pickups you can see similar designs with different alnico magnets. I can only say that I prefer their alnico V pros instead of the alnico II 57. The magnets are just a means to an end, while they have characteristic sounds, I wouldn't worry about what they are made from. Just know what you want.

  • @davecarsley8773
    @davecarsley8773 5 лет назад +32

    Well there's definitely, 100%, for sure a difference in the sound. I wouldn't call either one better than the other, but if someone is saying there's NO difference, that's just not the case.

    • @MikeDCWeld
      @MikeDCWeld 4 года назад +1

      I would have to disagree with you on that. They both sounded pretty much the same to me; like usual whenever someone does a comparison of different gear. The effects, amp, and settings used seem to be what actually affects the tone of the guitar, not guitar model or pickups.

    • @juliusmanalo6794
      @juliusmanalo6794 4 года назад +1

      Michael Carnes its clearly different, but its on your own preferencewhich tone you like.

    • @MikeDCWeld
      @MikeDCWeld 4 года назад

      @@juliusmanalo6794 I disagree. They sound the same to me. I've watched plenty of gear comparisons on this and similar channels and almost always there is no discernable difference between them. Changing amps and effects makes a noticeable change to the tone, but pickups are pickups and the only significant difference between them is whether or not it has the 60 cycle hum.

    • @DenKulesteSomFins
      @DenKulesteSomFins 4 года назад +3

      @@MikeDCWeld check your hearing then

    • @juliusmanalo6794
      @juliusmanalo6794 4 года назад +2

      Michael Carnes if you think they sounded the same you have hearing problem. Theyr different but it doesnt mean one is better than the another

  • @nazmoking3171
    @nazmoking3171 5 лет назад +5

    Great myth buster and video Darrell. Totally agree with your assessment here. How about testing bone nuts against a plain old inexpensive synthetic nut for sound next?

    • @mikkosutube
      @mikkosutube 2 года назад +1

      the only difference, if there is any, would be when playing open strings. If there is any distortion involved..then there is no difference even at the open strings. If you are interested in resale value..then it does make a difference because hype sells better than logic for an audience that is more concerned with popular opinion than reason or common sense.

    • @thefloop2813
      @thefloop2813 Год назад

      @@mikkosutube The slots in the cheaper plastic and synthetic nuts absolutely wear down too low much faster then bone, even if the sound isn't very different. I noodle constantly on most of my guitars, and usually within 2-3 years im replacing the nut with bone because the slots are too low on the bass side from friction wearing out the slots, causing open note buzzing. This is the primary purpose for still using bone on higher end guitars. I havent worn the nut slots too low on a single bone equipped guitar i own. I have a schetcer c1+ from 2005 and i wore out the plastic stock nut they came with at the time in about 3 years (i change strings every 2 weeks, sometimes less, and no locking tuners means a LOT of nut friction in the process). The bone nut i replaced it with is still going pretty good, just recently started a hint of buzz when i really dig in on a sustained cord with the 6th string open. And i use this guitar as an example because it's to this day, often my most played guitar. I'd have gone through at least 3 plastic nuts in the same time period, and a bone nut only costs a couple dollars more, and are, imho, easier to properly cut and shape yourself without making mistakes as well.
      I strongly recommend bone nuts over the cheap synthetic ones, especially if you play the guitar enough to change strings a lot, or use a tremolo often. But it's not a recommendation i make because of "tone". That's just been a huge market misunderstanding that companies are obviously going to run with for marketing purposes.
      Guitar players are, generally (but not always), just pretentious dingbats that apply the label of "tone improvement" over every little thing they buy for their guitar to justify a purchase (mostly based in vanity) to themselves lol (i've even seen people in forums argue tooth and nail that someone else's cheap-o neck plate is destroying the sustain of their instrument). Most of us have done this for so long now, that we believe our own BS and will actually argue in support of something, with no evidence, just to preserve our own vanity and ego (It's true, and well all know it lmfao) This applies to all of us for the most part too, just some more then others.

    • @mikkosutube
      @mikkosutube Год назад

      @@thefloop2813 an excellent point you made about the wear and buzz factor..

  • @wonderwomanguy
    @wonderwomanguy 5 лет назад +6

    How about "String Through Body vs Top Loader," particularly looking at Teles and Jazz/P Basses?

  • @vincenzoerriquenz2356
    @vincenzoerriquenz2356 5 лет назад

    Very nice demonstration! It sold me to subscribe, because it proves that a good, warm, musical sounding pickup depends on how is realized globally, not only based on the magnet type, major manifacturers produce very good pickups with both main types of magnets.

  • @dmoore0079
    @dmoore0079 Год назад +2

    In my experience, the winding plays a bigger part in the tone than the magnet choice (how many turns + the orientation of the layers and how tightly the layers are wound around the bobbin). The magnet strength in conjunction with the number of windings will dictate the pickup's output, but the windings also affect frequency response. To me, "hotter pickups" tend to have less treble response and more emphasis in the lower mids. Pickups with fewer windings will have more treble response and a more subdued midrange. I'd imagine the orientation of the wire layers and how tightly they're wound would also affect tone.

  • @PD_Swag
    @PD_Swag Год назад +4

    As a newer guitarist, this was really cool. The ceramics were definitely warmer and more vintage, but I could see them being too muddy for certain tracks. The alnicos were thinner by comparison but not in a bad way, I think they were clearer and more modern sounding. I think a fair conclusion is that they’re both great but for different purposes.

  • @HighlineGuitars
    @HighlineGuitars 3 года назад +4

    Bottom line: Will you get the gig if the promoter finds out your guitars has ceramic magnets?

  • @adamcolbertmusic
    @adamcolbertmusic 5 лет назад +5

    I really do hear a "drier" sound with the ceramic pickups. Though they sound more robust in volume, the timbre itself does seem to be more "brittle". I really don't mean this in a bad way. I've been able to see/feel musical textures in my mind's eye when I hear sounds, and this is simply the best I can describe the ceramic pickups in words. They both sound great. I wouldn't say it's like comparing apples to oranges, but maybe apples to pears lol. Similar, but different flavors and textures. It just comes down to a matter of preference.

    • @ardskoay
      @ardskoay 5 лет назад +2

      Adam Colbert I agree. The differences are clear. Though, which is better is subjective.

  • @r.weaver3769
    @r.weaver3769 4 года назад +2

    I couldn't bond with the 85/15 "S" pickups in my PRS SE, so instead of changing pickups possibly being further disappointed, So I scoured the net for information on pots and alterations. Eric Johnson uses 300k pots to brighten the guitar, some companies use 450k pots to darken bright guitars. so, I experimented with resistors soldered from output to ground, I ended with 1.2 meg resistor, the 85/15 "S" now have a really nice early PAF sound. also, in my search I found a schematic for PRS DGT, it places resistors between coil tap wires and switch lugs, eliminating volume drop while coil tapped ;)

  • @ericdenton6664
    @ericdenton6664 4 года назад

    The 1st pickup I bought was a Seymour Duncan Custom in 1983 in double cream. The pickup uses a ceramic pickup. At 17 years old I didn't consider the magnet materiel. I just bought the one the dude at the store said was great. It was great in the ash body strat I'd just assembled. I also bought a Schecter tremolo with a brass block the same day I got the Duncan Custom. I was also oblivious to the fact that trem had a big brass tone block. Later I put the Duncan Custom into a 1971 Gibson SG Special. Again it sounded superb. Even later I put that same pickup in a 80's Kramer super strat with a Floyd Rose trem. I sounded like crap.... A used $10.00 Ibanez V1 sounded great in that Kramer. The lesson I learned was a superb pickup can sound like crap in the WRONG guitar. You can't judge a pickup by the magnet type or any other spec. You must trust your ears. Fact: If it sounds good it is good.
    Thanks for busting that myth. Great channel.

  • @arpitamanvijay
    @arpitamanvijay 5 лет назад +6

    Great video as always👌👌👌.. The thing I miss was a blind test (I'm a huge fan your blind test, cause I always failed it most time😅😅).. Well I think another big myth is with string guages. Many articles says that the higher you go it sounds better.. But honestly i watched lots of professionals using 9 and may be 8. Like Clapton, B.B and Steve vai does.. Sorry for bad English😁😁😁

    • @arpitamanvijay
      @arpitamanvijay 5 лет назад +1

      Anyway.. Thanks for sharing this great information with us. Your videos are very very informative and sometimes money saving too☺☺☺ (1x12 cab)🤘🤘🤘.

    • @christopherkaesemeyer1575
      @christopherkaesemeyer1575 5 лет назад +1

      Yeah Billy Gibbons of ZZ Top uses 7'S. I think that string gauge affecting tone is a myth. Maybe not on acoustic.

    • @arpitamanvijay
      @arpitamanvijay 5 лет назад +1

      @@christopherkaesemeyer1575 thanks for that information😇😇.. And Billy Gibson has a monstrous tone. I mean everyone knows about the LaGrange. It sounds really Fat and juicy even in live🎸🎸

    • @ToddSauve
      @ToddSauve 5 лет назад +2

      Gibbons almost certainly didn't use 7s on La Grange. He only got the idea of using 7s from talking with BB King long after they recorded La Grange back in the 1970s. BB also used 7s and Gibbons asked him how he played his guitar without his hands getting tired as he got older. BB said go for 7s. Billy gave it a try and was sold. At least that is what Gibbons said in an interview, so I believe it since it came straight from the horse's mouth. ;)

    • @jeffruebens8355
      @jeffruebens8355 5 лет назад +1

      I like the blind comparisons for cheaper and more expensive gear. If you take the time to shop around and not let your eyes take the place of your ears, you can free up a lot of money for other things such as 3 more guitars.

  • @arnolddealiii4259
    @arnolddealiii4259 5 лет назад +5

    You should do tone Woods. Ash vs Alder vs basswood, vs Mahogany. Does body wood make a sonic impact on overall tone?

    • @DarrellBraunGuitar
      @DarrellBraunGuitar  5 лет назад +3

      That would make for a fun comparison!

    • @j.w.5485
      @j.w.5485 5 лет назад

      I would like to second that vote. What would be really interesting is the raw wood bodies with the same electronics, neck, etc transferred from one to the other to eliminate that variable.

    • @BFahz
      @BFahz 5 лет назад

      Yes but there are many comparisons already online. I KNOW tone woods matter, but not just between types (alder vs ash versus mahogany), but rather woods even within the same species. I have two LP's with the same wood and electronics - in essence the same guitars but different colors - and they too sound different.

    • @jonnysmokesmusic
      @jonnysmokesmusic 5 лет назад +1

      Woods make a huge difference, but the main factor of your tone is YOUR OWN FINGERS. Make sure you pick and fret properly, and pay attention to your hand tension and pick attack and angle. They affect your tone more than anything else and they are free!

  • @randykelsoe7191
    @randykelsoe7191 5 лет назад +8

    Myth disintegrated! Great job, Darrell.

  • @fernandoreynaaguilar1438
    @fernandoreynaaguilar1438 Год назад +1

    I always point out that Di Marzio súper distortion is one of the warmer pick-ups i´ve heard, and that one is double ceramic.

  • @ryanjones4150
    @ryanjones4150 Год назад +1

    Great video. One thing I think I remember about Alnico, is that as it ages, it becomes more mellow, so, a vintage Alnico pickup would be much different from a modern one.

  • @srvdean3024
    @srvdean3024 5 лет назад +3

    I'll never forget how much I fell in love with my MiM Strat after replacing the factory ceramics with Texas Special Alnico pickups. The sounds I had been struggling to coax out of the guitar were instantly there with no effort. I've never touched ceramic since. It's not conducive to my playing or what I'm after.

  • @bigfootingermany
    @bigfootingermany 5 лет назад +10

    Darrell great video! About time someone started breaking this stuff down. The pickup is designed to be a system in itself. Designed to be a device that makes AC electricity and send it to the amp. It's only my opinion here, but I think it's quite easy to keep these stereotypes going with all the cheap crap pickups coming out of Asia with a 'fridge magnet hot glue gunned to the bottom of an imitation Strat pup. Most of them sound like the descriptive garbage they use. But if you take the Alnico Squier pups coming out of the Cort factory in Indonesia for example, they sound good Really good. But they are weak, and thin. They have that Strat chime we all look for, but nowhere near the volume of say a MexiStrat with the ceramics in it, The big thing about Alnico vs Ceramic is this... Alnico magnets over time, will lose their magnetic strength. Ceramics will not. They will never go flat. So over time, an Alnico will sound like a "vintage" pup. One that has been sitting around for 30 years. But they can be topped off again, and sometimes they sound like crap. That is one of the services I provide. Remagnetizing old pups that have lost their charge. And sometimes I end up having to pull some of the charge back off, just to get it sounding good again. But aside from the MexiStrat pups, the big thing that Leo had learned before his death, was how great the ceramic magnets were. The magnet's big job is, to work in conjunction with the specific winding, and to take that AC charge and hit the front end of the amp, with varying degrees of strength. Anyone that has heard Leo's MFD pups, would never call them harsh or brittle. They are probably some of the fullest and warmest sounding pups I have ever heard, especially from a single coil. Great pups!!! And they will always sound that good, because the ceramic mag will not lose strength over time and they are not shock sensitive. Now I know you did that G&L review with the MFD pups a couple weeks ago. But have you done any reviews with the Z-coil MFD's in a guitar? That would be a great video!! I have a G&L Comanche with the Z-coil pups in it. That is one very unique sound! Almost like a humbucker in it's strength and warmth, but definitely a pup all on it's own!! I've never even messed around with raising or lowering the pole pieces yet. They are all bottomed out, and sound great. That's a video I would definitely be excited to see. Even the Asian model of the Comanche... can't remember what it's called right now, but from what I hear, they are dead quiet in the 60 cycle hum department, without having an onboard preamp. That was the whole idea behind the Z coil anyway. Get rid of the hum, yet still be a single coil. Great pups, but don't expect it to sound like a Strat, regardless of the shape. yeah I would definitely love to see a video on that one. But beware Darrell, you go playing one of those, and you might just have another keeper on your hands. Your collection would definitely end up growing by at least one, because you won't be selling it to make room lol. Great vids as usual Darrell, and definitely a thumbs up for breaking down some more of these stupid guitar myths. If we could tear some more of those down, perhaps the guitar industry could move forward out of the 1950's!!! I like vintage cars as much as the rest of the guys out there, but you don't see me going down and ordering a brand new 1956 Plymouth Belvedere.... Bob in Germany BiG

    • @DarrellBraunGuitar
      @DarrellBraunGuitar  5 лет назад

      Thanks for the comment Bob!
      Yeah, those Z coils are really unique pickups :)

    • @ToddSauve
      @ToddSauve 5 лет назад

      Pickups from the Far East can have copper windings that have a lesser percentage of copper in them than those made elsewhere. You can usually tell by the colour. The cheaper ones will have a definitely lighter colour to them than the higher percentage of copper ones.

    • @ricardoc.8468
      @ricardoc.8468 5 лет назад

      Jumbo MFDs on ASAT Special are the most clean, defined, pleasant tone I have EVER heard. EVER.

    • @silviascolaro6937
      @silviascolaro6937 5 лет назад +1

      @@ToddSauve the color change has nothing to do with copper content the color is the color of the insulating varnish on the wire

    • @onpsxmember
      @onpsxmember 5 лет назад

      Is your comanche a fullerton one? I'd really like to try one, but I don't want a Cort version. Was it a custom order? What did you pay? Where are you in germany?

  • @Josbornevonosborne
    @Josbornevonosborne 5 лет назад +53

    Your test confirmed to me why I don't like ceramic. Clarity.

    • @mihaiad86
      @mihaiad86 5 лет назад +7

      It is just so obvious, the note definition on the alnico it is better.
      I had EMG HZ, or single ceramic, but the alnico 4 always sounds better to me, the clarity and definition are just superior.

    • @diegoleiva7242
      @diegoleiva7242 5 лет назад +1

      It depends sometimes. I have a Strat I built from spares (Squier body, Hamer neck and a bunch of GFS hardware) and I dropped some cheap, generic ceramic single coils I had zero hopes for. Turns out they're pretty decent, they fatten up the sound a bit while retaining brightness, and makes my Strat keep up with my Tele in output. Brighter Alnico pickups would have been too weak for this guitar probably. Sometimes things just work and I'm happy about that.

    • @shoegazeforever8810
      @shoegazeforever8810 5 лет назад +10

      I agree. AlNiCo for clarity. Ceramic for warmth.

    • @totherepublic358
      @totherepublic358 5 лет назад +3

      I agree. The alnico has more clarity. I thought the ceramic sounded better on the dirty (2nd test) comparison, but the other two sounded better with the alnico to me. There is a thinness or some weird dynamic thing I don't love with ceramics too.

    • @guntherabrahamowicz4659
      @guntherabrahamowicz4659 5 лет назад

      @@totherepublic358 Yeah, the dirty tele with ceramics was pretty sweet but I liked the clarity of the AlNiCo pickups for cleans.

  • @zedzero77
    @zedzero77 8 месяцев назад

    AINiCo is very atmospheric,... The sound changes as the room warms up. The sound becomes magical and the ambiance gets better as the night goes on.

  • @bilkywaygalaxy
    @bilkywaygalaxy 2 года назад

    The custom-made Burns Tri-Sonics in my Red Special sound absolutely thick, dynamic, and incredible and they are ceramic!

  • @fzdreaddy
    @fzdreaddy 5 лет назад +35

    To my ears, ceramics are just warmer/rounder/better for jazz, yet dead in distortion. Alnico - better high end, tighter bass and mids, belly/chimy, and MUCH livlier w/ distortion.

    • @ashscott6068
      @ashscott6068 5 лет назад +12

      None of that has a single thing to do with what the magnet is made out of. Magnetism is magnetism

    • @skeevybastid689
      @skeevybastid689 5 лет назад +1

      I always keep hearing the opposite from ppl

    • @KyLesCaster
      @KyLesCaster 5 лет назад +2

      Ceramics dead in distortion? lol did you even watch the video? Its obvious which one had a livelier output. Turn the ceramic pickups volume down to 9 and watch, youll get the same "clarity" you think you're hearing XD

    • @altonszeto50
      @altonszeto50 5 лет назад +1

      Lol dead with distortion?! But Vai been using ceramic forever!!!? And countless pros. Lukathers new transition is ceramic as well. Magnet is a magnet

    • @rockzilla5150
      @rockzilla5150 5 лет назад +1

      @@altonszeto50 It's not. The tone does change but other factors need to be considered also in the pickups construction.
      Even the same type of magnet such as A5 from the same supplier can sound different. Not sure how or why but they do.

  • @jacksonknight6884
    @jacksonknight6884 3 года назад +16

    Ceramic pickups radiate personality. They're very unique. Alnicos seriously just sound like any guitar

    • @2beJT
      @2beJT 2 года назад +1

      There are countless types of Alnico magnets... smh
      Have you ever shopped for Alnico pickups?

    • @profound369
      @profound369 Год назад +1

      I'm not sure how this makes sense

    • @SergeiVlassov
      @SergeiVlassov Год назад

      Zero sense in this comment.

    • @eliasbutcher859
      @eliasbutcher859 Год назад

      @@SergeiVlassov well I get it, you're getting perfect sounding notes with alnico like if it was prerecorded whereas with ceramic there's this slight fuzz almost.

    • @SergeiVlassov
      @SergeiVlassov Год назад

      @@eliasbutcher859 I hope you are not serious :)

  • @willhoren9200
    @willhoren9200 5 лет назад +12

    Brian May's Burns tri-sonics are ceramic. Does anyone think he sounds harsh?

    • @ToddSauve
      @ToddSauve 5 лет назад +1

      May doesn't use a pick. He uses a British coin that is no longer in circulation, so that is how he gets part of his sound.

    • @willhoren9200
      @willhoren9200 5 лет назад +5

      Yes, he uses a sixpence. I don't think that would radically alter the tone of the pickups.

    • @tylerdean980
      @tylerdean980 5 лет назад

      Personally, I do. Just an opinion though.

    • @PaintHerWhite
      @PaintHerWhite 5 лет назад

      @@ToddSauve just no and stupid.

    • @ToddSauve
      @ToddSauve 5 лет назад

      @@PaintHerWhite I don't understand your reply ...

  • @jordimateubartroli951
    @jordimateubartroli951 5 месяцев назад

    As a pickup designer and builder said (maybe Bill Lawrence): "magnets don't have tone, they are magnets and create a magnetic field. They don't "sound". It all depends on the global design of the pickup. You can design a pickup to sound a certain way with alnico or ceramic, whatever, you only have to design it correctly".

  • @RaphaelNano
    @RaphaelNano 5 лет назад

    THANK YOU! Hate it when people read something on the internet and spread it to the world without checking. Also, about the magnets, I prefer alnico on single coils since I have a LP, cause I want a totally different vibe. If I had only 1 guitar and it's a single coil guitar, I would go with ceramic I don't know why lol. Myth busting series from you is my fav! Thanks, Darrell!