@@gianfrancofont1582 im disinclined to believe you. Im masters 2 and i will let you know now that however the hell you play moira in the metal ranks sure as hell are not working in masters and up
I wonder if it’s easier or harder to perform expert fade jumps on keyboard vs controller but the struggle is real for me to reach certain high ground areas.
I'm on controller and have jump bound to right-stick which definitely helps, but using a scroll wheel on mouse is practically the only way to get the super-super jump (please correct me if I'm wrong, I want the tech)
@StealMySongsaim assist was made for inexperienced gamers lol people forget that games are supposed to cater to the majority and the majority is shitty at playing games and the higher elo players suffer from it because they know how to use it.
I just got yelled at for playing ana and my tank kept on getting booted on the second bridge in Rialto attack. And I was getting told no healing. Like there is nothing that can be done. Or the bastion setting up behind me in an obvious spot
Your movement is amazing, and the angles you take for your orbs is something im going to be studying. And so are the highground fades/fades to healthpacks! The way you move around a map and bait support or dps out of position to go after u and then using cover and orbs to ensure max survivability to duel them (or escape if needed) is also something im looking to master as well! Been having trouble with runasapi, so gonna be rewatching to study how u move on that map. Watching u on it made a lightbulb go off in my head, like that map suddenly made so much more sense. Anyways i know ppl say moira is easy, and yeah maybe her drain aiming is, but i think ppl dont quite get that there are skills to master with her too. It just looks different from a lot of other characters in the game cause of her kit. And i find theres a big difference when u start with moira and where u can get to (like u) with her as u master those skills. I agree with ur use of moira tbh-and watching u move the cart the way u do along with ur team and how its prioritized (the strategy put into ur play)... very satisfying. Yeah. Also love the timing of heal orbs to create pockets/the most value out of them. And again the angles!!! Sooooooo going back to note exactly where some of them were placed (like the one that bounced thru the choke beautifully, that was lovely) And then you have the fake fades added to this? Yeah, i love this video. Very educational for moira mains, and you have a lovely attitude and mindset. A great watch! Ty so much, have a good day!
people don't understand how important it is to distract and stall behind enemy lines. it's always a matter of numbers...more dps or more healing is the only thing that matters to them.
Its an effect thats part of the skin hes using called the Ancient Caller, aka the mythic skin for Moira! it also has cool effects for the heal, fade, ult, and voicelines. Can be bought with mythic shards purchased w real money or from the battlepass tiers
I really like the way you move with Moira. Very nice movement. I noticed that you sometimes fade IN, and then you don't have your escape ability available (and you die), like in 15.16 where Ana really saved your ass. :D I also love that you use walls to send your orbs. Good job!
At 15:16 we are capping the point. If I get a kill, they spawn far from the objective. If I get killed, I spawn close to it. It's one of the best times to go all in for a kill because it's low risk to reward when it comes to the macro game. There's basically nothing to lose if I die, but something to gain if I get a kill. I'll be back on the cary before any team fight, but if I kill them they will have to let us push a little more.
What makes you use your Coalescence right as you get it? I have heard of it said as a easy team fight winner but I'm not sure. What would you say are some good things to think about if you commit to using it?
Every second you hold it, you are losing value every time you heal or damage someone, because you are not gaining any ultimate charge. Your healing becomes less valuable because all it does is heal, and doesn't heal + get ult charge. So you do not want to hold it for too long. Secondly, Coal is a long ultimate. You can use the start of coal for one thing and the end for a different thing. I will often use coal for self-healing to get me out of a sticky situation where I have no cooldowns or I need more self-healing than a heal orb and right clicks will provide, and then once I've healed up, I may get aggressive with it or focus healing my team. I will use the first couple of seconds of coal for movement speed sometimes. To get a longer fade jump. To save a player I couldn't heal. To push an enemy at range out of their nice position into something more difficult for them to play. Honestly, it's quite a flexible ult, and you can usually find something to use it for even if you haven't really got a plan for it at the moment you use it. I wouldn't hold onto it for long though.
can you make parkours? i would love to try out your techniques on different maps and see if it's as simple as you make it look :) (it most definitely will not be)
By fake fades, he doesn’t mean pretending to fade but not fading at all. That’s not possible. He means like in this example 0:43, where he fades, and Reinhardt thinks he ran away, but he was actually behind him. Hope that helps.
I had the exact same question, I thought it was like some kind of secret tech I didn't know about. I guess it's just making the enemy thaik you are retreating but just fading behind them?
I did this kind of stuff to a monkey back at the start of OW 2 and 1v1 him for 2 1/2 mins while the rest of my team ran rough shot over his lol I may have to pick moira back up soon lol
I think that staying left clicked on someone heals them faster than spraying, waiting 3 sec and spraying them again. You lose more resources but you heal them faster, sometimes it will save them. I use the spray technique when im low on resources or when my mate isnt hurt ( i spray them preventively all the time, so that he has a heal effect when he eventuay takes dmg)
He uses all the tricks in the books to make him fade further. First : use fade + jump to make a high fade ( useful to get high round) or fade + jump after fade to go further after the fade. You keep the speed for the jump and go further Second: if you coal ( ult) you get a movement speed increase so fading while coaled with get you further. Third: you can use the map (cars, walls) to do fade jumps and get verticality. Reach high grounds etc.. But you have got to practice the fade. You can do it in practice range or in special arcade modes
Dude moira literally cant outheal anything or provide an immort so dealing dmg instead of trying to outheal something he cant is the only thing he can do. The whole point of the character now is to either run full rush with lucio or pair with another main healer and take an angle.
@@iceperson_owMoira Main here, He shouldve been heal orbing and spraying that winston, wouldve kept Winston alive while the team dwindled Rein shield thus winning the Tank battle since Winston would then be able to jump in and bubble while rein is running and swinging like a chicken without a head.
@@CallMeRabbitzUSVI saying your main doesnt really mean anything unless you put your rank in your statement. I know people with 1500 ranked hours but only peak gold
@@CallMeRabbitzUSVI plus why are you dueling the reinhardt when your on dive😭😭😭 are you nuts. The whole point is to kill the backline while rein sit therr and looks dumb because all he can do is watch. Theres no point when you can go over and around him without ever needing to interact with him
You do as much healing as is required to win. Any more is inefficient. Your job as support is not to just heal and keep players alive, that is only part of your role. Your primary objective is to help your team win. Healing is part of that, but not all of it. To limit yourself to just that aspect will HUGELY restrict the amount of value you are able to achieve. This mentality is one of the BIGGEST reasons why players stay in the lower ranks. Support is more than just healing health. Sometimes it's better to let a teammate die than to stall their death for a few seconds. Sometimes you're a better choice to be alive than another one of your teammates. You need to think smarter.
Fades are good. Map knowledge and positioning is mostly good for dps Moria. Dps is decently good but over done in a lot of situations. Healing needs work.
Fades were cool, too bad playing as half-tracer in the enemy backline while ur other healer struggling to heal all critical guys... also dont you just need to just tap the heal (to save ammo) to get the hot effect on people rather than hold it or did they change that?
@pepsipwns666 HoT effect is a much slower healing rate that holding. You can apply the HoT and it lasts for 3 seconds, but I like to apply it more frequently than that so that it's 3 seconds from when I stop applying it. Playing in higher ranks with a support with no utility requires creativity, otherwise you're just going to put out similar numbers while not having utility. In lower ranks sure, just sit behind your tank and heal. It will be enough.
@@ArxUK Does the spray heal itself actually heal I thought it was only applying the HoT? So making any further holding in the 3s window useless. Also doing damage in the backlines =/ utility. Drifting back and forth between your team and doing healing orbs mostly and knowing when to go aggressive makes the best moiras. You played decent though!
It's funny, I haven't watched the video, but I've been doing fake fades for years. Just a little something I came up with. No one expects you to be in the exact same spot after the fade. Gets them every time.
To put out high damage numbers, you have to either sacrifice healing or be incredibly active. Her sacrifice for the aim is also her range limit. People forget that on a map like Junkertown, Ana is able to snipe both healing and damage from the other side of the map, while Moira has to be up close and personal with anyone she needs to attack. There are downsides... low damage output, low range, high accuracy, and sacrifices.
I get depression every time I see your Moira. I feel like I will never do those beautiful fades 😭
Yeah, definitely on controller some of his fades are tricky to repeat
Me neither 😭😭😭
Troll@@pixelmooon
@@gianfrancofont1582 "ecks dee" whats ypur rank poser
@@gianfrancofont1582 im disinclined to believe you. Im masters 2 and i will let you know now that however the hell you play moira in the metal ranks sure as hell are not working in masters and up
I wonder if it’s easier or harder to perform expert fade jumps on keyboard vs controller but the struggle is real for me to reach certain high ground areas.
It’s possible but imo controller can be very difficult especially ones that involve quick camera movement
I'm on controller and have jump bound to right-stick which definitely helps, but using a scroll wheel on mouse is practically the only way to get the super-super jump (please correct me if I'm wrong, I want the tech)
easier on mnk, but the refresh rate on a pc would make both input styles easy as long as ur comfy w them
FPS is a huge factor too.
@StealMySongsaim assist was made for inexperienced gamers lol people forget that games are supposed to cater to the majority and the majority is shitty at playing games and the higher elo players suffer from it because they know how to use it.
Isn't it depressing that your team is just wandering aimlessly the whole game and if you lose, they all say "moira no heal".
Yea happens a lot! XD
bro he eas literally dps
That’s with Support REGARDLESS ! Other roles HATE takin accountability for some reason .. 😕😕😕😕
I keep the chat closed. You should too.
I just got yelled at for playing ana and my tank kept on getting booted on the second bridge in Rialto attack. And I was getting told no healing. Like there is nothing that can be done. Or the bastion setting up behind me in an obvious spot
those fake fades are work of ART mang
This is the best dps gameplay I’ve ever seen
"i might be the only moira in history..." she is so full of her self XD
Your movement is amazing, and the angles you take for your orbs is something im going to be studying. And so are the highground fades/fades to healthpacks! The way you move around a map and bait support or dps out of position to go after u and then using cover and orbs to ensure max survivability to duel them (or escape if needed) is also something im looking to master as well! Been having trouble with runasapi, so gonna be rewatching to study how u move on that map. Watching u on it made a lightbulb go off in my head, like that map suddenly made so much more sense. Anyways i know ppl say moira is easy, and yeah maybe her drain aiming is, but i think ppl dont quite get that there are skills to master with her too. It just looks different from a lot of other characters in the game cause of her kit. And i find theres a big difference when u start with moira and where u can get to (like u) with her as u master those skills. I agree with ur use of moira tbh-and watching u move the cart the way u do along with ur team and how its prioritized (the strategy put into ur play)... very satisfying. Yeah. Also love the timing of heal orbs to create pockets/the most value out of them. And again the angles!!! Sooooooo going back to note exactly where some of them were placed (like the one that bounced thru the choke beautifully, that was lovely)
And then you have the fake fades added to this? Yeah, i love this video. Very educational for moira mains, and you have a lovely attitude and mindset. A great watch! Ty so much, have a good day!
(Well okay, not just study. Gonna also be practicing these till I've got them consistently)
Haha hope u don't mind if I follow to study ur brain :3 best moira vid I've seen come onto my fyp tbh
people don't understand how important it is to distract and stall behind enemy lines. it's always a matter of numbers...more dps or more healing is the only thing that matters to them.
the potg robbing...moira wasnt even in the kill feed lol
poor illari got robbed 😔
so glad this reached my recommended. will def be tuning in now
I can't at how fugly the green weapons are...
How dare you? We love Jade weapons!!
this is so real 🥲
That's a fact
I hope they do an opal one
although its moira skin looks amazing. i hate the very loud noise it makes for her primary and secondary fire. its so frustrating
As a Moira main I'll find these strats useful, thx
Came on my fyp btw
I also came on my fyp! Thought I was the only one
no youre not the only one who runs towards adventure and intimidate them out, just one of the few that does it well.
Your Moira is always a delight to watch
Wow, I'm quite amazed at your fades, they are so clean and powerful! I might have to work on my fades more.
Poor Illari getting robbed of the potg, haha
The things only Moria mains understand
Having a bad day?
Watches Arx video
Day gets better!
nah, you gotta admit the second game you were just having fun... and mostly it worked pretty well!
"Bubble"! Moira stealing POTGs since OW 1 lol
That King's Row game was epic, I learned so much. I don't see a lot of Moira being played at the top 500 level so it's really cool to see
Moira facing down Venture was pretty awesome - Kudos
Doing these fades is going to be nearly impossible on Switch 😩
Good video and overview! I am finding how little I actually knew about these maps. Thanks for the tips.
a really stupid quesiton, does anyone know how to get the orbs with eyes like in the video?? they look so cool i really NEED them AHHHHH
Its an effect thats part of the skin hes using called the Ancient Caller, aka the mythic skin for Moira! it also has cool effects for the heal, fade, ult, and voicelines. Can be bought with mythic shards purchased w real money or from the battlepass tiers
I really like the way you move with Moira. Very nice movement. I noticed that you sometimes fade IN, and then you don't have your escape ability available (and you die), like in 15.16 where Ana really saved your ass. :D I also love that you use walls to send your orbs. Good job!
At 15:16 we are capping the point. If I get a kill, they spawn far from the objective. If I get killed, I spawn close to it. It's one of the best times to go all in for a kill because it's low risk to reward when it comes to the macro game.
There's basically nothing to lose if I die, but something to gain if I get a kill. I'll be back on the cary before any team fight, but if I kill them they will have to let us push a little more.
the tracer slaps are so nice
every time I watch one of your videos my Moira skill levels up exponentially 😂
I learned how to pysch out people with this technique thanks 😁
Smooth fake fades lol
What makes you use your Coalescence right as you get it? I have heard of it said as a easy team fight winner but I'm not sure. What would you say are some good things to think about if you commit to using it?
Every second you hold it, you are losing value every time you heal or damage someone, because you are not gaining any ultimate charge. Your healing becomes less valuable because all it does is heal, and doesn't heal + get ult charge.
So you do not want to hold it for too long.
Secondly, Coal is a long ultimate. You can use the start of coal for one thing and the end for a different thing. I will often use coal for self-healing to get me out of a sticky situation where I have no cooldowns or I need more self-healing than a heal orb and right clicks will provide, and then once I've healed up, I may get aggressive with it or focus healing my team.
I will use the first couple of seconds of coal for movement speed sometimes. To get a longer fade jump. To save a player I couldn't heal. To push an enemy at range out of their nice position into something more difficult for them to play.
Honestly, it's quite a flexible ult, and you can usually find something to use it for even if you haven't really got a plan for it at the moment you use it.
I wouldn't hold onto it for long though.
lol that was long
@@fangyang7843you sound dumb
excellent gameplay as always
three piece illairi with her ult for play of the game? nah, the moira behind them who was not in the kill feed. we love blizzard xD
13:21 venture's nick. you , truely, don't wanna know what it means . Lol
16:32 you KNOW that ANA is seething
2 minutes in and subbed, I've got almost 200 hours on Moira and I'm learning from you gg
can you make parkours? i would love to try out your techniques on different maps and see if it's as simple as you make it look :) (it most definitely will not be)
What map is that?
Runasapi. New one.
darude - sandstorm
K but what are fake fades? I see fades.
When the enemy is certain you faded in one direction, but you did something totally unexpected, usually _not_ retreating
By fake fades, he doesn’t mean pretending to fade but not fading at all. That’s not possible. He means like in this example 0:43, where he fades, and Reinhardt thinks he ran away, but he was actually behind him. Hope that helps.
@@teykay5790 thanks.
I had the exact same question, I thought it was like some kind of secret tech I didn't know about. I guess it's just making the enemy thaik you are retreating but just fading behind them?
And here I thought it was fading without moving.
i dont think rally is better that coal simply because coal goes thru shield plus the constant damage unables brig to generate whatever she does
Made my day ❤
I did this kind of stuff to a monkey back at the start of OW 2 and 1v1 him for 2 1/2 mins while the rest of my team ran rough shot over his lol I may have to pick moira back up soon lol
Would honestly be cooler if you called them pump fades
Moira's heal spray is an HOT that lasts around 3 secs, it's useless to spam the spray on ppl that already have the HOT on them.
No it's not.. because it restarts the 3 seconds...
@@ArxUK Why would you restart the 3 seconds permanently instead of dpsing and restart it 2 seconds after ?
I think that staying left clicked on someone heals them faster than spraying, waiting 3 sec and spraying them again. You lose more resources but you heal them faster, sometimes it will save them.
I use the spray technique when im low on resources or when my mate isnt hurt ( i spray them preventively all the time, so that he has a heal effect when he eventuay takes dmg)
@@ghostbluster8900 If it does heal more it makes sense
@@TsuChan_ i think you can test it pretty easily on the bots of the training range. Might do it if i dont forget
How does she glide so far!?!?!
He uses all the tricks in the books to make him fade further.
First : use fade + jump to make a high fade ( useful to get high round) or fade + jump after fade to go further after the fade. You keep the speed for the jump and go further
Second: if you coal ( ult) you get a movement speed increase so fading while coaled with get you further.
Third: you can use the map (cars, walls) to do fade jumps and get verticality. Reach high grounds etc..
But you have got to practice the fade. You can do it in practice range or in special arcade modes
What rank is this?
I think I was GM3 in this game, inside top 100
11:00 least questionable overwatch potg
What happened to quitting? 😭
The next game hasn't been released yet
@@ArxUK Fragpunk is in beta rn, try that out
hey ive seen 2spicy4u in game before :0
that’s a steamer mode name, it’s a voice line dva says sometimes
@@mirac_ oh 😭
Pot Washing Gloss
You let your tank die in the beginning. Shame on you. DPS Moira makes me sick
real, the spray doesnt have much range so he should use healing orbs
Dude moira literally cant outheal anything or provide an immort so dealing dmg instead of trying to outheal something he cant is the only thing he can do. The whole point of the character now is to either run full rush with lucio or pair with another main healer and take an angle.
@@iceperson_owMoira Main here, He shouldve been heal orbing and spraying that winston, wouldve kept Winston alive while the team dwindled Rein shield thus winning the Tank battle since Winston would then be able to jump in and bubble while rein is running and swinging like a chicken without a head.
@@CallMeRabbitzUSVI saying your main doesnt really mean anything unless you put your rank in your statement. I know people with 1500 ranked hours but only peak gold
@@CallMeRabbitzUSVI plus why are you dueling the reinhardt when your on dive😭😭😭 are you nuts. The whole point is to kill the backline while rein sit therr and looks dumb because all he can do is watch. Theres no point when you can go over and around him without ever needing to interact with him
Why do you not heal? literally not a single healing orb lol
You do as much healing as is required to win. Any more is inefficient. Your job as support is not to just heal and keep players alive, that is only part of your role. Your primary objective is to help your team win. Healing is part of that, but not all of it. To limit yourself to just that aspect will HUGELY restrict the amount of value you are able to achieve.
This mentality is one of the BIGGEST reasons why players stay in the lower ranks. Support is more than just healing health. Sometimes it's better to let a teammate die than to stall their death for a few seconds. Sometimes you're a better choice to be alive than another one of your teammates.
You need to think smarter.
idk i personally saw a lot of healing orbs
this guy is a freak
Bubble!
not nice
@@missy434 i didnt mean it in a bad way i meant he plays the game alot im also a freak
Damage is healing
Amazing
a dps Moira 🙄 i’ll block them quit
Hello??? Illari got robbed so hard but oki
Fades are good. Map knowledge and positioning is mostly good for dps Moria. Dps is decently good but over done in a lot of situations. Healing needs work.
Thats so cool
Fades were cool, too bad playing as half-tracer in the enemy backline while ur other healer struggling to heal all critical guys... also dont you just need to just tap the heal (to save ammo) to get the hot effect on people rather than hold it or did they change that?
@pepsipwns666 HoT effect is a much slower healing rate that holding. You can apply the HoT and it lasts for 3 seconds, but I like to apply it more frequently than that so that it's 3 seconds from when I stop applying it.
Playing in higher ranks with a support with no utility requires creativity, otherwise you're just going to put out similar numbers while not having utility. In lower ranks sure, just sit behind your tank and heal. It will be enough.
@@ArxUK Does the spray heal itself actually heal I thought it was only applying the HoT? So making any further holding in the 3s window useless. Also doing damage in the backlines =/ utility. Drifting back and forth between your team and doing healing orbs mostly and knowing when to go aggressive makes the best moiras. You played decent though!
@@pepsipwns666 Hitting spray heals 70 HP/s. HoT heals for 17 HP/s. Huge difference.
Just go practice range and use it on the bots. You will see the difference. You can barely keep the training bots alive with the HoT only.
@@ArxUK Fair play, always saw the pro games them doing that, I dont play moira though, thought there must be a reason
I think Ana is "hitting" on you. ---> Nano ❤
dps moira
Are you healing?
Your a healer, not support 😏
It's funny, I haven't watched the video, but I've been doing fake fades for years.
Just a little something I came up with.
No one expects you to be in the exact same spot after the fade. Gets them every time.
I thought that was just a normal tech? It works alot better than a fade forward
typical dps moira you wouldn't make it far in high ranks
Who's gonna tell him? ;D
Bait used to be believable
Lolololololollololok
hehe grandmaster gameplay
I wish they wouldn’t make Moira’s aim so forgiving compared to most of the support roster and have the numbers she has for damage alone
To put out high damage numbers, you have to either sacrifice healing or be incredibly active. Her sacrifice for the aim is also her range limit. People forget that on a map like Junkertown, Ana is able to snipe both healing and damage from the other side of the map, while Moira has to be up close and personal with anyone she needs to attack. There are downsides... low damage output, low range, high accuracy, and sacrifices.
moira should just be removed from the game, useless
wow so skilled 🙄
Ur mad. Cause you can't do this
Won womp 😋😋😋😆😆😆
@@joanstanley5555 Hahaha True Story
You must be super fun at parties
@@gianfrancofont1582 Easier said than done. So many pro-gamers in the youtube comments XD