The Most BRAINDEAD Strategy to CLIMB RANKS FAST - League of Legends
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I wantes to be the first one to type somsthing in the video :(
Yummi exists btw did u forget?
fix thumbnail - it is cursed
@4:45, there's another way to break that strategy and it's you having a very good support getting the minion execute support/just mindlessly hitting the wave. TLDR: That strat only works if you have duo or your support has more than 2 brain cells, 1 for warding and 1 for roaming.
Lmao this works in bronze elo where there not tower diving the adc at 6
Your worst support isnt the afk, its the hard shoving one crashing it prematurely at wave 2 and stealing most of your minions...
And they flame you for dying as they always recall at stupid times then they die 2v1 then flame you again.
Yeah AFK's not that bad tbh. At least you get an XP lead that can be useful through the whole game xD
THIS
yes! i got really fed as vayne playing 1v2 in lane cause my support thought he was jg but i almost ever lose when my lux hard shoves every wave and steals minions
@@annadrabkova3716 remember playing with this permaroaming leona, was sivir so they had a hard time shoving me in, she was just harassing enemy jg the whole game and I got juicy XP lead. It was even better when the enemy morgana started counter-roaming but by that point I had a 2 level lead against enemy adc.
7:44 he missed the cannon so he told us to close our eyes
I LEGIT THOUGHT THAT’S WHAT HE MEANT XD
@@abcdefghilihgfedcba pretty sure thats what he meant lowkey
Thats really unusual, usually my jungler comes by every canon wave promply and steals it from me to finance his trashy gank....
Shh... don't tell anyone else
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This hardpushing strategy also illustrates why Noonquiver is such a good powerspike; even if you can't waveclear like Sivir, you can still push out decently well on any champ if you're doing extra dmg to minions.
I feel I just watch a 30 min ad about how good Sivir is.
Some of this is really only possible because Sivir's waveclear is absolutely insane, which is something not every champ has.
Some champs don't even have abilities lvl1 (Aphelios)
15:02 Lane Gameplan Recap
28:38 Sivir Build
really crazy ive been a sivir main since like season 3-4 and this has basically been my strategy for years
so i expect you to be diamond + right?
I think this might be the best way to learn and get used to wave management and waves order, will definitely try it out.
It doesn't matter. I peaked Dia 4 with Dia 2 mmr and then had 11 consecutive losses due to brainless team mates. Jng has no idea that ganking lvl 6 enemy while he's lvl 4 and the wave is frozen on my side is not a good idea. Even after I type in chat don't come, they gank. Then we both get killed because their jng was also there. Brainless people will keep you down.
@FyreWanderer While that's true, people climb with meta champs, not with game knowledge. I refuse to be a meta slave. Once again, I win lane 8/10 games but I can't win the game when most of the games I have at least two who are feeding. Even in dia. I hoped that dia will bring me inner piece, only to be disapointed in those players too. For example, bot lane is 0/2 0/2 and their adc is 4/0 and my bot lane in freaking dia thinks that it's a good idea to try and get that sweet shutdown only to be sent to the fountain. Almost all of my games are like this. And don't get me started on bot lane ignoring pings and chat info like mid is going bot, back away. Almost every game they don't listen and get killed... LoL is the worst game I've ever played and World of tanks was holding that 1st place for a long time. Only when I really got into full grasp of what LoL is, I am 100% sure that it's the worst ftp game ever made.
@@vanjamenadzerWhat do you mean only people using meta champions can climb? What a lame excuse.
@@LunesDeAngel no, they wrote "they climb with meta champs" and not "only with meta champs". using meta champs make the climb far more easy, though.
@@ShyartiN Have you seen his whole text? I do not think i misunderstood what he meant with "People climb with meta champs".
It's not a skill capped video if they don't mention the even minion rule at least once haha
everything in the video is just a rehash of all their other guides
@@bitbrain3468 repitition is key that goes with watching aswell
Teaching is repetition
Anivia bot/sup is able to maintain an infinite freeze by using her wall next to the turret. The minion's pathfinding gets confused because you blocked the way to lane and they will get to lane far later than enemy minions. It's honestly op and nobody knows this
everyone knows it, its just not that useful
literally everyone knows this, it’s one of the most obvious mechanics. But it’s not used for good reason
I thought this was an Anivia joke beacause she has a frozen wall and freezing abilities and can just «freeze» the wave with abilities
There is a high ranked Trundle support player who does something similar.
It takes a level of competence to use intelligently as some of your replies seem to think its useless; It is useless when used incorrectly.
@@darkienl5886 Ornn has an opposite effect tho.
While Anivia and Trundle use this to freeze, Ornn burns the minions
This is one of the highest quality guides you guys have produced. I'm looking forward to more!
By how he described the champion at the start, i was expecting yuumi
This is all very interesting but what I'm more curious about is why Sivir has Cho'gath's ability icons at 09:56 xD
now i need answer too
She also has Gnar's at 1:43. Probably replay bug
She also had riven ability ahahah
Been using this strategy with a TON of success. However I just had a Mundo support who got mad at me for 'backing too much' and said "Well I guess I'm taking over the lane then". Then started perma shoving the wave, forced bad fights, got mad and went afk.
really well done! I've been using this strategy for the last three days and I'm averaging 9cs/min in silver...I was bronze when I started. It just works!!
First game of this went disgustingly well, literally could ignore the enemy bot. Did not trade at all since I had a Yuumi, but they happened to run into my full combo on the wave and the enemy bot got mopped up along with the farm.
oooh a yuumi, nice strat
My cousin showed this strat to me a month ago, it's so ridiculous how it works 90% of the games I play.
So you have a 90% win rate? And rank1, I guess. But which server?
@@bakic866 well 1 win lane 90% but the other 2 lane and mr jungle still have a say in losing the game lol
@@bakic866 I don't win every game, the strategy works to win botlane, not the entire match.
Love this, I even died when trying to crash the third wave and didn't have enough for my cull. Ended up just turtling until lvl 5 and never interacted with the enemy again, killed like 7 turrets that game, just took waves and rotated to objectives. Very fun :D
Surprised tristana wasn't mentioned on this list. Maybe because her waveclear is slightly slower? I do this same thing in plat but with tristana, except you can also punish players with 1v1 duels occasionally while you do it, and you can shove towers 100 times faster than most champions. Trist Q buff granted even more attack speed during your 7 second AS buff timer recently, so clearing is even easier than before. You also get the ability to all in dive people at their tower early game due to her early game pressure in the lane that a lot of these other picks lack in their kits. Her peel in the side wave is insanely good as well. Using E-Q on the cannon wave can also 1 shot a wave fairly early on similar to Sivir, just the downside of slightly longer cooldowns over some of these other picks. Her E passive is similar to a jinx rocket in mechanics but with no mana cost. Q also costs no mana. Very easy to manage in comparison when something bad happens and you get stuck in the lane for another 2-3 waves in terms of mana management. Nothing like those moments at 9:58 where something messed up your tempo and you're 1v2 and out of mana to fix the wave for several minutes...
With sivir you can kill the last minion of a moving wave in safe way.Thats why she is the best in that role
it's because it's not safe waveclear. ur earlygame attack range is super low so you have to put yourself in a bad position to actually use your abilities on the wave
I suppose the range has to be taken into consideration. At level 5 you're standing at an awkward 557 range. It's a balancing act between wave control and threatening all in trading to get the wave push and maintain control I guess and that's a bit of a different twist on this tactic that the video wasn't necessarily focusing on. Either way, it's similar and works fairly well, it's just a tiny bit more aggressive play mixed in to make it almost as efficient.
I'd say the main difference between Tristana and Sivir would just be that Tristana is forced onto doing that, while as Sivir you can choose to use your WQ to push.
Although the point of the video is about pushing braindead 24/7, but, you wouldn't want to do so all the time since there are situations in which is better off for you to hold a freeze near your turret. With Tristana that's nearly, if not, impossible.
Apart from that, you're correct; Tristana works just as well for the rest. Tristana is not as good as Sivir for teamfighting, but, that's pretty much the only aspect I would think of that Sivir outperforms Tristana.
@@ASOCOMIDIUM exactly! Which is why I default to this forever push, hard pressure, high tempo, look for picks/1v1s or better scenario with her specifically. There's practically no other way to play her cuz her kit doesn't allow it. She sucks at literally everything else. :)
anyone noticed at 1:38, sivir’s tooltip is displaying gnar’s abilities instead her own? 😮
was about to say it xd
This might be my favorite League guide of all time. So damn comprehensive, so detailed and I'm just in awe that you answered every question I had before I had a time to ask it. Thank you for putting this together
I do have one question, what to do if your midlaner refuses to swap with you?
OH MY GOD I ASKED THE QUESTION AND THEN THE VIDEO ANSWERED IT ALMOST IMMEDIATELY WHAT THE LIVING HELL
I'm surprised you didn't include Xayah. As her W E is very similar to Sivir's Q W clear, and while sivir gets a spell shield early, Xayah' R will be her safety net.
Im surprised you didn't put tristana on this list. the early game is more aggressive, but for the macro section her q and e and e passive make her a great pusher, and she shreds towers. Her ult and w let he split while being able to get away, and her passive gives her huge scaling. If you rune her on the exact same runes as sivir, I feel like she outscales, and while her waveclear might be slightly worse, her self peel is way better.
tristana cant freeze the wave...
nice qot
@@mateusmayer7240 just don`t level "e".
/s
I did train my macros by watching pro's BUT it's very hard to implement it in low Elo. I once took Drake and Tower because I did not commit to the team fight at baron, but that caused my team to flame be and then everything went downhill
the best option is to mute everyone and do your own thing, better than playing well is maintaining a calm mentality, if you listen to pro's voice comms every time they mess up the team say "it's ok" "too bad" and try to keep a positive attitude until the end of the game and tilt later lol
this is the best tuto i've seen as adc so far. helped me improve a lot thx.
Best one yet, thanks. looking forward to subscribe to skill capped in near future....
In my games my random support players don't do the cheater recall, instead they stay to try and poke the enemies, and ruin the rebounding wave, die to the enemy bot 1v2, or get ganked by their jungler.
I guess the larger strategy still works, just shove waves. But any wave management trick is impossible with a bad support that constantly wants to touch the minions, either over pushing, ruining a freeze I have, or just preventing a wave from rebounding back into us.
it's been a long time since i played, but in my time it seemed like everyone tried to kill the first tower as fast as possible.
BTW, that was before "tower shields" were added...that makes me feel old.
This is the way.
Have you tried communication? Asking support to roam?
Can you make a video about difference between soloq and duoq. I believe claming solo is easiest part. What do you think? Cause matchmaking ofc.
Nice video! Feedback: tell us how to counter it and what are the weakness of it. That help us to execute the strategy even better!
Neat, I figured this out myself back when I occasionally played Lethality Sivir before I had developed any decent mechanics.
Really cool. Can't wait to forget in game. Thank y'all !
This type of video is the best ones you make
I just tried this after watching, and it worked.
Graves top is also a really good wave clear/split pusher.
Man, I love watching these "useful" tips for high elo players, being a low elo myself. These make absolute no sense in my games, but I still love the cool info 😂
Thanks a lot. This is pretty much how I already played sivir.
Thank you, after seeing this video and trying to mimic it I sucked even harder than usual and lost lane much faster, which in hindsight made me lose so much less time because the other team steamrolled us way faster than usual.
It’s all in the early game. Go into practice tool and practice freezing the lane and slow pushing
How about teaching us how you managed to have Chogath's abilities
9:55
Wait, isn't this what Sivir usually do in the early?
This is why I didn't like the Mana Gain Change on Shield
Just buy tear you never rrun out of mana
For the rune page. Could minion dematerializer work because it auto kills a minion and makes you deal more damage to “the same type of minions?”
Bro someone answer this man!
I'm not a pro, but the short answer is yes, but then think of what that will cost you. The biscuits help set you up for early game, and boots help you with extra speed, and saves you 300 gold for damage items. So it depends.
One of the best vids I've seen from you guys
wtf that really works :D Thanks you guys! You doing great job!
is this strat viable in patch 13.10 onwards after adc mythics, if so what do i need to know?
how does veigar do this? his early waveclear and mana is awful, and hes very unsafe due to having no mobility or dps
I used this strat back in May to hit Diamond and reached Rank 9 Sivir NA. Yet another example by Skill Capped that fundamentals and macro is a much more efficient way of climbing than just "getting good."
is this real
@@joshk2181 lol yes.
I hope riot nerfs the shit out of sivir lol I hate playing against monkey pushers
first game, w. Does not mean it will always work, but I was glad I could recognize the patterns ! Ty very much !
As a support I just coached my cait in this strat. It worked the 1 time I tried it. So that got a sub
What about Tristana? I feel like she should make it to A tier at least. She has great escape with W and ult and the wave clear is pretty decent.
You should also make a video on how you counter this strategy or what you do when someone does this strategy.
I faced this strategy todays after the enemy adc picked up Sivir before I could. I was in panic, but remembered old days maining Xayah and hers incredible wave clear. It’s almost the same strategy but you have one advantage: stun on your E and disengage on your R. Not that effective on sidelinening, but better on line phase
@@profetadeoz cool, thanks!
does this still works with minions trucking to lane in 13.10?
Step 1: check the tier list
Step 2: pick the top tier champions
Step 3: win because people in Solo Q don't know how to ban actually
Welp, my chosen main, jhin, does not excel at this or the split push strategy. What should your strategy be on an adc that can't implement these strats? I feel so at the mercy of my support and my team as jhin, and I can't think of a way to break that with his kit.
It's support diff bro
Jhin is not even a real adc
isnt xayah good here for her waveclear, and sure is not as safe as sivir pre 6 but after 6 shes very safe aswell?
Played this strategy just now, my warwick support literally decided to int the whole time and ended up with 18 deaths within 20 minutes... i finished the game with 324 farm though and did 0 damage to enemies
And, what do you do if you have a supp who leaves you lvl 3 and lets you lane 1v2 agaisnt ezreal/swain ? u just get zoned out of xp range and bend over?
I went 10-0 playing waveclear sivir in the first split of this year. Made a self goal to deal little damage to enemies. Was fun.
what do you do when the support is hitting the wave and dont even let you freeze or rebound?
Strategies like these are the reason why it’s actually quite easy to climb until about emerald/diamond. Everyone is focused on always fighting and I just focus on objectives and map control. I prefer to climb as a supp tho, been playing heimer and it took me from bronze to emerald in just a couple days. Unless my adc is really bad, I always win bot because I am controlling the game with my turrets. And with the same turrets I go and solo drake when possible and also force jungler to take two rifts during the game. And we can always take fast baron at 20 min with just 2-3 people. It’s been a really broken pick so far, but I think it will be harder to climb now because average skill and map control is higher.
I really like how complete and clear this guide was! Thank you!
3:04 Sivir with the gnar abilities 😂 and i was wondering why it looked so familiar
Greatest skillcapped video ever made.
99% of people who watch this will throw this strategy out the door 1 min into laning phase. But they still watch cause they want to feel like they trying to get better
At 7:23 you didnt follow the wave so it would crash, they could easily freeze it, get a good recall timing and also maybe setup a gank, which elo was this?
this is very usefull information ty
Does adc get any benefit from taking futures market using this strat? I remember a malz strat a while ago where cheater recall + futures market would let them get an extremely early lost chapter, which was super snowbally. Is there anything similar for ADC?
Not really, as lvl 5 is just your spike as they say here. Not really reliant on items.
I play AP Nasus with the same strategy. It's off meta and can be quite situational but it utilise the exact same concept.
6:57 alright but what if the enemies had a brain here and froze the wave by holding it? Then you're stuck on low mana and try to push the next one while enemy jgl comes and fucks u up? Or recall and lose 1 and a half wave?
@@FlightFromReality Not always possible if you're low on mana / health because of the shoving in early levels.
A detailed video for the "what would Tryndamere do" strat :D
😂😂😂
9:36 why are cho gaths abilities under sivirs icon?🤔
as adc main, i never play sivir cuz her simple kits vs other adc but i've change my mind, sivir really help me climb out of elo hell. she got nth fancy yet very consistent and strong
best of all u can throw pizza and the strategy worked
How do you get them to exhaust your support instead of you as adc? Thats a trick i havent learned yet.
Just a question. Why the hell do you have Riven's spells under Sivirs icon? Rito pls
tried it in URF and it was working so well.
weird, went into game, had the worlds worst support, my team fed enemy laner until she was 3/0 pre level 6, but using this despite going 0/3/2 i was 30 cs up, took turret while mine was basically at full health and was only 700 gold down like hot damn crazy
Seems something you can do in other lanes with Minion Dematerializer or with against some champions like fiora,camille,kassadin
with no wave clear at all
you cant do this mid i think cuz the lane is too short if you are talking about cheater recall, but if your talking about creating roam timers on cannon waves then thats just normal
I have a question too, i really apreciate the tips really, but how am I supposed to climb if my adversaries are only smurfs??
great effort!
I have been accidentally following almost everything in this guide my problem is that my mid and top are losing their lanes way too fast usually and it resulting me having jungler and sometimes mid in my lane making it impossible for me to do anything to turn the game around since top mid and most of the times jg has lost their cool and refuses to play smartly
Is shiv a viable item for this strat, or is it overkill
1:43 at level one your plan is simple
Play sivir with gnar abilities
(for those who dont get it look bottom left)
funny you would say that, I am around diamond mmr and this is what i do on velkoz mid in hard match ups. wave clear and reset on cannon waves. also i always clear wave before rotating and I ALWAYS get enemy t1 & t2 this way. it is indeed very simple. Also I defend my t1 as much as I can so it keeps pressure on mid lane and vision and defend our jungle openings. To anyone under platinum elo, I would advise you this playstyle. even people in diamond and platinum can benefit from this also
As a sivir main i am very happy
wouldnt seraphine be pretty good for this aswell?
"I know, shocking" I love this phrase
This is why Vex is so strong aswell. Her waveclear is just to good compared to other mid laners.
What is the support suppose to do whit this tactic? Mine just followed me around roaming and warding.
That’s basically what they do, remove enemy wards and place their wards. If another lane needs help and they have time to rotate then go there for. A bit before returning to lane.
Yes, but what if, for example, I see that the drake is there, preasure mid minions and go for drake but enemys simply don't care about minions on mid and all come on drake? What if they don't care for minions at all?
You can take a risky 5vs5 at drake knowing that you have already won mid ( you got gold from cs that enemy team is losing to fight at drake)
@@FlightFromReality Yes, but listen, for example, when I applied this, I didn't know how to beat the game. I get the impression that the farm is irrelevant and that if everyone doesn't apply it, it generally doesn't even matter that I push some lanes. If we are weaker than them they will take the soul. If, for example, I have 300 farm in 30 min, and my opponent who dropped 4-5 waves of minions has about 200, it does not mean that the enemy's jg is weaker. Only the rest of the team will beat ours.
what are the items u need and what order? i dont want to pay money to get better at lol
I feel like Sivir is the best champion to teach fundamentals.
Farm
Minion Wave Management
Split Pushing
Letting your support take the hits
also the best champion to make enemy blitz/morgana/any other 1-important-to-hit-ability-champion players reconsider their life choices
no, really, so funny to see enemy support just give up after a few failed attempts to engage on me spellshield
Can you just do this in Mid as well with Sivir?
Ive always played like that just didnt ever tought about picking sivir, she is really op with her ult.
Wouldnt seraphine be good too?
The slow and gradual descent into madness can be heard around 8:00
I abused this a lot. You can also buy ER first item and have infinite mana, then KS and IE.
0:51 and i am ready for the yuumi xD
what do you do you if you don't want to play sivir because she puts summoners to sleep?
Take note support because that's why at low elo you can literaly have a free lane as an engage support, because you ll be up front of your adc for a potential engage and even if you fail a little bit if you force the focus onto you and your adc is free dpsing then you win the trade, especialy if he goes for the adc enemy first.
It's like a Malzahar strategy but in botlane :3
does this still work with 2023 sivir