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Vulcans Encounter Shadow Vessel
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- Опубликовано: 22 ноя 2023
- Ending to the Vulcan Expedition film. Just a bit of crossover fun.
Models:-
Andrey Kurin
Fabio Passaro
Kier Derby
Nadab Göksu
ProLogic
SpacialKatana
Amras (White Star Fighter) Sorry bud missed, you in the credits :(
Music:
'Messages From Earth' composed by Christopher Franke
Software:-
Lightwave 3D 2015.3
Space Engine
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Why would the White Stars 'fall' out of hyperspace like that? The B5 gates only punch the entrance/exit hole, they don't create a conduit per say. That, and White Stars were unique in that they were the smallest ships that could open their own jump points.
Why yes, I do remember all that from B5 when it aired originally.
They were using the Vulcan stream, hyperspace in B5 is red and looks very different.
that would also explain, why the destruction of the gates is so "uneventful". The B5 gates have MASSIVE amount of energy stored and destroying them (as seen in the show) causes a gigantic explosion.
based on the warp drive alternative they were developing for the Federation Pre-Burn?@@SpacialKatana
WOW! I’m not sure where to even start! First, this was AMAZING! Your best work in a while. The story was consistent and on point! The new opening credits were amazing! The crash into the city completely unexpected! You outdid yourself today! Still one of the best original content follows on here! Thank you so much for this!
Excellent, your video's are ramping up to an all new level 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Great job!! And very nice to see the Shadows using their mastery of hyperspace to do hit and fade attacks.
Some one read the og thrawn trilogy, a men of culture!
@@marckrieger3277what does it have to do with Thrawn though?
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Its called hit and run, only in the thrawn they call it Hit and fade, as far as i know.
@@marckrieger3277ah OK 👍
What. A Shadow warship would have handed their arses to them. Remember that Shadow technology is ment to be a million years more advanced.
True but time isn't the biggest factor in advancement. Humans way surpassed Vulcans rate of advancement thus why Vulcans feared them. Even in real life look at rate of advancement we have made in last 120 years. We know from B5 that shadows advance very slow with little to no advancement from the great war 1,000 years earlier.
Let’s also not forget the force setup here. An Earth Alliance vessel with a squadron of Thunderbolt Starfuries and a squadron of White Star destroyers supporting the Vulcans. EA and Ranger forces, post Shadow War, would have had at least one telepath on board to disrupt Shadow vessels per ship. Also, the B5 universe doesn’t have the benefit of shielding (even the ancient Shadows and Vorlons). So the brute force of hitting it with a photon torpedo would have devastated them.
The Shadows developed space travel a million years earlier, but there is no reason to assume their technology advanced continuously during the millennia that followed. In fact, we know that they spent extensive periods in hibernation in between the times of war. That said, humans and Minbari in B5 developed ships that could almost match the Shadow - and with telepaths aboard could actually beat them. It isn't much of a stretch to think a Vulcan or Starfleet ship could hold its own against a Shadow vessel.
I ..was also going to complain about how slow the Vulcan ships were to retaliate..loosing 3 of 4 ships, before dishing out the force that they should have sooner..
As for the ENTERPRISE, wiping out the SHADDOW ship. It was already worn down by the time she got there. Still, typically, she's sharp and solid enough take it in the face a bit, then adapt for a successful and superior offense. This is a regular thing for the ENTERPRISE D.
The Vulcan are just as old
Beautifully done… really amazing 🎉❤
this is some of your best work my friend. Nicely done!!!🖖
WOW !!!
Vulcans in B5 space, that's going to be - fascinating..
Maybe the Vulcans should have blocked the Shadow Vessels telepathically!
This reminds me of how good a composer Chris Franke is. Got the soundtracks on CD when they were released. Haven't listened in decades. Excellent video too.
These are decades old!? The music to this, especially once the battle starts brewing, is so epic
Early 90's dude ;)
Id love to see the shadows go against the Borg
If the Borg were able to somehow assimilate a shadow, heaven help them all. Would be "most interesting" though.
A pont ive been making 1 borg cube would assimilate the entire b5 universe
@@Spawn-td8bf the Shadow might just counter assimilate them, they are pretty good at subversion
@@torg2126 Now THAT would " be most interesting". And even scarier. Although species " 8472 " terrified the Borg, the Borg being helpless on their own against them, so the shadows may indeed give them a run for their money.
Borg would stand no Chance. While a Shadow Crab Vessel might hold some kind of Technology, its still organic.
Same with the Pilot of the Vessel. The Shadows are an extremely strong Force, could compete against Species 8472.
Also, the Vessel could just disappear.
But even the Shadows or the Vorlons arent the strongest or most advanced. The Third Space Aliens are truly terrifying. All Psychics, with even the very small "Battle Ships" of them might be able to defeat 8472. Too bad we never saw what the bigger Ship would have been able to do.
The inter dimensional warp is a great idea. 👍
Species 8472 vs The Shadows. Now that would be an interesting match up.
The Shadows would be wiped out within 22 seconds after the encounter. No Chance.
Vulcan's are telepathic. They could mind meld with the Shadow vessels and cause them to shut down. Shadow vessels have telepaths a their central processor instead of a computer.
Assuming they don't go insane first. In Babylon 5 telepaths were only used to block them but to mind meld with them that seems like a bad idea, why not just block them.
Well done Special Katana. Long wait. Happy Thanksgiving to all from Earth...
Happy holidays!
It would be really crazy if the ST universe got some of the shadow tech and developed hybrids like EA did in B5. ;)
It would be really cool if the ST ships weapons worked.
@@theidajawho In typical crossovers, Star Trek phaser weapons would've shredded things, but I suspect the depiction against a Shadow ship is probably fairly accurate if these are indeed early era Vulcan ships. The Enterprise-D's torpedoes would obliterate anything in the B5 universe; a universe where nuclear weapons are often considered the big bad WMD.
@@alphanerd2305 and what about ship shields?
@@theidajawho Excellent point. It strikes me that the Star Trek shield system would survive quite a bit of pounding from weapons in B5. Even early era Vulcan ships had a solid shield system in comparison to other Trek races. But without knowing the in-universe explanation for how Shadow weapons work, it's hard for me to hazard a guess beyond that.
@@alphanerd2305 But the shields should at least be there. All of these B5 - Star Wars - Star Trek crossovers almost never take Star Trek shields into account. And lets not even talk about what a Star Trek transporter system would do to unshielded ships. "Transporter Room, beam a Quantum torpedo to their bridge"...lol
Great job! Thanks for uploading this. 😊
Lovely animation, I love the crossover between Trek and B5!!!!
One of your best ones yet!!! Great work!!
I swear to the non exixting good, seeing shadow ships blowing stuff up never gets old to me!
Also nice touch letting the enterprise open a hyperspace window with her deflector this thing is starfleets swiss army knive it can do everything the plot need it to do.
' it can do everything the plot need it to do'
Glad I'm not the only one that thinks that :)
Hey Starfleet engineers can make replicators out of rocks remember.😂
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Bravo, Bravo, Bravo!!! *finally* a longer form video!! It's long overdue in my opinion and I find myself starting to "warm-up" to the cross contamination of the different origins. Your sheer bravery in doing this shit is really impressive, and I am always happy to get a notification from YT for a new video. Keep it up??
Beautiful! 🌹 Thank you!
That’s beautiful! Even if folks don’t agree with the outcome. Personally, the D looked so majestic coming in and saving the day, and being the Galaxy-class is my favorite… 😃
The models, particularly the White Stars, looked really good.
WS model is 23 years old :)
Great job. Loved coming home from work to find this! Makes the day! Qapla!
LOved this, natural it is upto your usual brilliant standards
That was great, really well done!
Oh damn, Photon torpedos destroyed a Shadow?
You nerfed the shadows or what? or did you Buff the Federation?
Great video..
Both!
They are 25 megaton warheads
Shields make all the difference and Trek is using anti-matter warheads.
Without shields Trek ships fall as easily as any younger races ships (unless they have ablative armor like Defiant), but shields give Trek ships a window of opportunity to fight back (just not a very big one).
Also the Shadow vessel had been weakened by the assault of the other 3 ships, so it couldn't defend itself as effectively as it normally would.
Plus Photon Torpedoes are about 30-40 megatons/shot, so they are no joke in terms of fighting power, even against Shadows.
For context in B5 a Vree saucer was able to down a Shadow Vessel in a single volley, using it's anti-matter projector cannons, a Photon Torpedo is a more contained version of said weapon, but the end result is similar, just delivered differently.
@@Keemperor40KFederation starship hulls are reinforced by structural integrity fields and have been shown to be really tough as well
@@keyboardt8276, that fact obviously didn't help the Enterprise D during Star Trek Generations if you recall.
Great visual story telling. The words used on screen added to the context of the story in a positive way.
Cheers
I don't think that Shadow beams could have gotten through Vulcan shields so easily, but I guess it's possible. Remember, too, that Vulcans are powerful telepaths - that means the Shadow ships should be running in the opposite direction!
telepathy can really help them, but the best thing you can do is run away. Unless you're a billion-year-old civilization living entirely on a single ship, I can't imagine how you'd be able to defend against that shot or shoot back. There was always one scenario: you saw a ship of shadows, and this was the last second of your life, then you were simply cut in half, there could be no protection. The fact that any "enterprise" could damage the shadow ship is completely outlandish. Just look at the Federation and Romulus ships - they are structures made from tin cans; Such primitive ships, at best, can fight the Centauri - this is their level, approximately similar technology and economy. I wrote somewhere in another video that a shot fired by a planet killer is equivalent to several trillion tons of antimatter, otherwise it is impossible to make an object with the mass of a planet disappear.
I’m really interested, the Universe is not so old, a lot of time passed there for the first stars to appear, then stars from their remains, then planets, then another billion years for the simplest evolution, can life even exist, which has an additional billion years to was there an evolution?
So how is it Whitestars can get disabled in subspace, if a jumpgate is destroyed, when they can open their own jumpgates while in subspace?
If we're mixing your chocolate with peanut butter, you got to throw in a blast from the SDF Macross😊
Beautifully done, must been a labor of love
Honestly, I just got a model of the Vulcan ship and ran with it...
I like ship designs that don't look like a frisbee and 2 toilet rolls.
Marvelous, just plainly Marvelous!!!!! 🤩
That was a fun one. Thank you yet again.
RUclips really needs a Brilliant button as well. Absolutely fantatstic
The Big E saves the day again! Never forget the name Enterprise!
That was Big D. Enterprise D
@@darkmatter1152big D energy
@@keyboardt8276 D&E are badass, mad firepower. Then true enterprise G is the ECLIPSE CLASS
@@darkmatter1152maybe you haven't watched Picard yet but I've got news for you... 😉
@@keyboardt8276 I know seen it all but that was wrong to change titan a to ent g. Look up eclipse class absolutely badass
Thanks!
Very well done, congratulations.
Great Video, good to see the team up !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The shadows vs the undine would be cool.
Great work in your animation done there.
Aren’t the Vulcan ships crewed by telepaths? Would a Betazoid be able to affect Shadow vessels?
Betazoids are empathic, not telepathic. It's different.
@@SpacialKatanaDeanna was empathic because she was half betazoid, full betazoids are telepathic according to her mother
@@keyboardt8276 Deanna could communicate telepathically with her mother as well, but not other people.
More likely the opposite. The Shadows have been manipulating other species for millennia; they would just unlock the Vulcans' emotions and create panic.
battlecrab be like "Allow me to introduce myself"
I only have one gripe.... Some more sound effects little less music... Its always nice to hear plasma cannons firing in the B5 verse and the sound the Whitestars engines make .... and of course the Photon torpedoes from Enterprise !!! ... Can I ask what class of ship was the EARTH ALLIANCE cruiser was , it did not have the spinning section so I'm guessing it was the newer Warlock class with minbari tech .. ?... Great video was nice to see the cross over 👍💯
Then someone comes in whining that 'there's no sound in space' Lose lose situation for me, and it's just easier not bothering with SFX, not to mention I only have about 4 B5 sounds anyways
@@SpacialKatana not a whine , I thought that the video was amazing, I guess we get spoilt by the respective shows and get used to hearing those effects.
I've been killing time waiting for a PBS series to come on. This the 3rd one I've watched. So, I guess that I'm NOT "killing time " after all. 😊 ALL three have been fun to see ! Excellent graphics, good story lines, they held my attention. I watched "Star Trek " in it's original run and still watch the reruns again and again. I have 6 of the movies on VHS and the latest movies on DVD . I have two VHS " Next Generation " movies? too. But I'm NOT a " Trekkie " !! Just a Sci-Fi fan .
Grew up on B5 / TNG and Voyager 👍
Great vid!
Yay!! For the Enterprise!!
Didn't she do well 🤗
Love everything about this! Animation, FX, music, pacing, camera work. Well done! The mesh fragmentation is something I want to do. Is this done in Unreal or Unity? Maybe blender? No matter what it's great. Congrats.
Done with Lightwave 3D. Cheers.
Is subspace and hyperspace the same or different in this reality.
The shadows got planet killers too mostly for all out war destruction, the vulcans should go hang out with the vorlons, they like logic and order
That was really good 🖖 Thanks
Finally excellent, thank you.
There is a Guy unfortunatelly don't remember His Channel Where He Put Diferente Spaceship Franchises to Fight each Other BSG vs Startrek Voyager Stargate Ori Ships vs Startrek and So On B5 Ships as Well to Shadows included...
Thank you ..This was Epic
Freaking awesome!!!!! 👍👍👍👍👍
Great but would have loved to see the Earth ship with the rotation section fitted.
Made loads of videos with it if you care to look.
Cheers
AMAZING TO THE MAX I LOVE THE WHITESTARS. i was kinda worried the other two wouldn't make it out
Love the new intro btw
En un capítulo de star trek nueva generación, Picard se encontró con unas razas que usaban láseres de alta potencia, sin embargo no le hacian ni cosquillas al Enterprise D. en B5 usan láser
Very Cool, Thank You. love B5 and trek, all that was missing was a Battle star :), just kidding. the video was perfect.
I read that "and now the conclusion" in that star trek voice lol
Works better if you do 😏😁
The Shadow vessel would have flayed open every one of those ships!
Yeah but short vid...plenty of times I'vbe carved it up :)
The shadow beings are from the Babylon 5 show.
Aren't Shadow ships vulnerable to psychic attacks and the Vulcans have high psychic abilities should have a major advantage.
Now galaxy class federation ships too,? Destroyed 2 Shadow vessels? Nuts
Vulcans are, at least, technologically on par with the Minbari.
Well done, but you saw what damage one Shadow ship did. This would d have been a slaughter if there were two or more Shadow ships.
Nice video but the Enterprise D would get its ass handed to it by a Shadow Vessel.
And frequently does if you care to peruse.
thats a galaxy refit and that was a beast that would surpass soverign class in fire power and defences. Federation upgraded the galaxy classes during the dominion war and dubbed them "Galaxy Refit" was borne. Look at the last episode of the picard season 3 on how a old galaxy refit (enterprise) destroyed the super borg tran-warp conduit cube that was the size of a moon. So certainly the galaxy would have destroyed the shadow vessels and even vurlon vessels.
Very nice work but make sure you change the settings on your "stars" so that they don't cast shadows.
Eh? They're on a background image so I've got no idea what you're on about
Great video!
The best strategy for the Vulcans and Star Fleet would be hit and run attacks from subspace, as the Shadows didn't know about it. If they had time, they could have replicated defector shield generators and given them to their new allies - their shields held up okay to the Shadows. The Big E's shields would have been even more advanced. Janeway's nanotech armor would be great too.
what about the number of telepaths in the Federation like the Betazoids?
Borg could probably be helpful (a rare example of Borg being what the Galaxy needs to defend itself)
@@angelrivera2339 It would depend on if the Shadows tried to take them over, like the did with the PSY Corps people. The Shadows conquering Vulcan or Betazed would give them an army to control the Shadow ships.
The shadows were millions of years old and you think they didn't know about subspace? They and the Vorlons knew about 3d space...
@@angelrivera2339 Betazoids were empaths and a few were telepaths like Troi's mother... a few among the Andorian but not like the level we saw on B5...
Cool
Amazing visuals.
Thanks.
Love the video but quick question? Why would the Vulcan ship go back to the B5 universe with no return gate?
Actually, there's one still in the B5 universe and the Enterprise D could still create the same wormhole from the Star Trek Universe.
part 3 maybe?
@@SpacialKatana looking forward to it!!
Very well animated. The only complaint I had was how easily that Shadow ship went down with just a couple of photon torpedoes from the Enterprise. These ships could take sustained energy beams and impact explosions from plasma based weapons like Romulan ships and shrug it off without half a dozen ships pouring on the damage. It should have taken a bit more to kill a battlecrab.
Yeah but you know, they are from different universes so photon torpedoes might have an unexpected effect on shadow wessels
Good job the Shadows didn't subvert Vulcans to being Shadow ship CPU's.
excellent work.
I would like to see how the shadows would do against the Ori from stargate SG-1
Thank you.
GREAT WORK! I couldn't figure out at first why you gave the Enterprise-D a victory over a Shadow vessel. I'm guessing you watched Picard Season 3
Watched the last episode just for the FX, no idea what was going on 😝
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Amazing work, please made third part.
07:08 i thought she was about to ram the Shadow there
The SDF1 would have wipe the floor with the Shawo
😮very good
OK, perhaps I'm just being greedy, but I'd like to see an epic mashup that includes the Stargate franchise ships as well. Now that would be very intertesting!
Sorry I don't do SG.
awesome! Well done!
Thank you! Cheers!
Looks pretty good.
Ty🙃
I liked this second video much better. Vulcans and the Federation worked together. The first one all three Klingon vessels were destroyed with hardly any effort.
Interesting combo of B5, Star Trek, and SG1.
Excellent, oh how I loved Babylon 5.
What about a phase variable quantum torpedo simply beamed to the shadow warship?
Great animation
What kind of hyper space travel was that for the B5 ships? Some sort of Hyper space Express Slipway
So that is why Enterprise always won, it's just OP.
Not watched many of my vids then? 🤣
@@SpacialKatana Nope, but I know this now! 😘
Did you dust off the video toaster software that they used in the original series to produce this one?
I do use the same software they used (Lightwave) yes.
That Was Good! Real GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!
Interesting how B5s Universe Earth and Star Treks Universe Earth cross, I get the feeling B5 is an alternate what/if reality to that of Star Trek, or are they Parallel universes? Either way, I like how the Vulcans got the short end of the stick, seems "Live long and Prosper" is fightin' words to some. Great job and enjoyable to watch.
Now this is the kind of death battle I want to see no animals fighting to death
The shadows are long for the universe!
Well made show.! However. Wondering what's with the Vulcan ships taking so long to fight back.?
Normally it'd be clipped with live action footage and make a whole lot more sense...plot..drama..etc
@@SpacialKatana ..."plot"... rrrright..!..I forgot. Vulcan..logic..occasionally enormously thick headed..but good calculators. Oh well. There goes their ship building budget for the month.
This makes no sense. Two Vulcans ships do not use their shields and one ship does and survives. The surviving ship is able to return fire.