How I Successfully Overcame my 10 mm Disc Herniation without surgery
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2022
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In this episode, we dive into the nitty gritty details about Andrew (The Shirtless Dude) Dettelbach's back pain. Katie leads a discussion about his disc herniation in 2013, which lasted 2 years, and his recent muscle strain that occurred at the beginning of June (2022). Hopefully, this episode gives you insight into how to overcome your pain with a curious, exploratory, and positive mindset.
If you're struggling with low back pain, sciatica, muscle strain, chronic low back discomfort, low back tightness, disc degeneration, disc bulges, scoliosis, or weakness, then this is an episode you will not want to miss!
#discherniation #backpain discectomy microdiscectomy spinal surgery
I know you have much more followers on other platforms, but I primarily use RUclips and really appreciate your adding it here. This was a great episode for many reasons. I cannot stress how helpful it is to have you walk thru the details of how this recent injury was for you and the stress factor being so impactful.
Also, random nugget I didn't know but totally makes serious and helps me a ton, that hypermobile folks also take longer to heal? That's great news as much as it's super disappointing, it helps me not be so hard on myself and go into what's wrong and will I ever heal mode.
Thank you for your willingness to be authentic thru this. And here's to many years without anywhere near this level of injury again.
Thank you! Yes it’s hard to be patient with our bodies and to not compare ourselves to others but it’s so important!
This mental part makes so much sense. I am a professional pilot in the process of recovering from a herniated L5/S1. My back always hurts much worse before and during my flight but miraculously feels better once I’m back on the ground. Glad I’m not the only one!
How long did it take you to recover or be back to lifting weights?
Hi
McKenzie method. Always use lumber support in the captains chair
Sometimes it doesn't really matter what people say, rather that they are genuine and KNOW HOW IT FEELS! Thanks for taking the time to tell your personal story.
I’m a single parent. L4L5 disc herniation. Back surgery in 2017 at 27 years old. Fast forward to now when I have a 2 and 1 year old. Realizing I probably have EDS. I have flare ups like you’re talking about. My neck seized up the other day. It was super hard because I’m used to back flare ups and spasms. I know that pain and I know it passes usually in 7 days and I wait it out and do small movements while I wait. But I was freaking out with the neck pain because I knew I had to somehow get my kids in the car in the morning for daycare and I didn’t know how to handle this pain. After I somehow got my kids in bed (which I was basically gasping and fainting with the pain), I literally laid on a heating pad and cried and did not move the rest of the night. But I did force myself early the next morning to watch a billion RUclips videos on neck spasms. I think the extra motivation of being a single parent did help because you just have to suck it up buttercup. But the panic of the situation could have also spiraled me mentally and a depressive episode was on call. I am so happy I was able to move thru it and now I know how to handle that pain moving forward. It sucked. But I’m learning more about myself. And I can do hard things. 👍🏽👍🏽
I'm sorry to hear that you are struggling. It can be so very challenging. You're doing great. Congratulate yourself for making it through another day! Here's a link to our free hypermobility resources which may be helpful to you spreadwhealth.com/hypermobility-free-resources
Big Thank you for influensing my PT years ago and spreading the word all the way to Bulgaria.
Awesome! Appreciate you sharing!
Good podcast! Absolutely inspired by Andrew’s story and journey. Love watching your content.
Thank you! Here's a link to some of the exercises that helped him the most www.spreadwhealth.com/free-low-back-program
Thank you, i wish guys you get to live happy, joyful, healthy life with your kids and people around you and I know you’re doing it yet I’m so happy to find people explaining my issues. Oh my God looool thanks . After all the good thing is making us more attentive toward our body
Thank you!!
Loved this episode guys!!
Thanks for the support!
Shoot a full film featuring you two! I’d pay to see it and I’m sure there are a dozen others would as well!
Thank You, Both!
Our pleasure!
Injury since 2009 as a kid, constant blowouts over the years what require a 7 day lay up to recover from. L4-L5
The most benefitial recovery protocols involve the entire McKenzie Method of therapy (prioritize ergonomic function), and at home decompression/inversion.
Those practices coupled with all the great mobility and strength protocols you guys work with, and the keys to prevent injury or relapse with this common form of mechanical injury.
So glad you are using your intelligence and great physique. You are definitely where you belong. Man you are built.
Subscribed... Keep doing your stuff
Thanks for the sub!
I had a L4/L5 central disc extrusion (full rupture) in 2006. It sucked, I wouldn't wish that discomfort on anyone. I was also advised surgery but managed to stick it out enough for my body to clean up the material and heal. since then I've discovered that I've been compensating ever since, pretty much locking up my lumbar as a built-in back brace of muscle. This led to muscle pain all the way up and the compensation propoaged up. If I stopped paying attention to how I moved I'd get (and still do) a very familiar screwdriver in the back stab sensation and jolts all the way down my legs just like you mention. An encounter with a wonderful DPT two years ago helped me recognize this and we worked on mobilizing my back again and using the muscles there to move from the lumbar instead of my knees and ankles. I learned the value of supine trunk rotations, open book, etc.. She was manipulating my back and said she could feel my vertibrae just move all around. Then she popped a rib back in, which I had no idea was a thing. We discovered I was using my muscles 'all wierd', using all my big muscles and not so much the small stabilizing ones. She kept marveling about the crazy range of motion I had, especially while being in pain, being a 45 year old male, and how that flexability might be part of something bigger that she sees other patients for. She gave me some information to read and research about hypermobility. So yeah... I was hEDS diagnosed a year ago.
What a journey! Hopefully you have been able to look at it from a positive light? It sounds like you have been able to learn a lot about your body (and improve) as a result of everything you have gone through. Just so you know, you aren't alone in your experience. Also, ribs "subluxate" all the time for people! It can be very debilitating but is not usually something to be concerned with. Great work advocating for yourself and getting the help you need!
@@whealth_ Thanks for the reply. Love your content. Keep it up!
@@whealth_ After learning about hEDS I have made some life changes, lost a lot of weight (295 to 160 at 6’0”) and currently feel better than I ever have as an adult. ❤️🦓💪🏻
Woooo! That's a beastly change! Awesome work! That has to feel awesome knowing that you put in so much work and accomplished a feat that massive. 🔥
@@whealth_ The change has been a thing for sure. I feel amazing right now. Just need to add more muscle.
Man, this found me at the perfect time. I was scheduled for a discectomy in 5 days and just decided to yo cancel it and keeo trying to heal without it.
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It can be a lot of work but so many succeed without surgery
Hello! If you mind may I ask if you joined the program and feel that you made the right choice? I understand that is personal and you may not want to share however.
How you going now
Any updates?
This is great. How did it work out?
Any chance you all will be shooting an additional footage?
Great video, I can really relate to this. L5S1 herniated disc two weeks after our dog died. My situation sounds exactly like yours 9 years ago, I’m in the trail and error phase at the moment trying to work out which movement patterns I can do
Here's a link to our free 5 day low back series. You will get one email per day with an educational video and our top tips, exercises, stretches and massages to help. www.spreadwhealth.com/free-low-back-program
Appreciate your story. Now dealing with sciatica symptoms and lower back pain. Like your story I still don’t feel that much pain in my back but it feels muscular on the butt cheek. I did some decompression and that’s when my pain in lower back kicks in and sharp burning pain going down my leg. I do massages and chiropractic sessions which help a lot but sciatica comes back 30min after. Nice to hear your story. I’m just wondering if it gets worst before it heals. I feel like it’s super sensitive and nagging/ annoying pain right now. Currently doing back / leg exercises and mobility. I’ve been trying to find success stories from bulging/herniated disc. Also just want to know how if it gets worse before it heals… just like a sprain ankle. Good content!
Hey! Glad you're finding some relief. It can sometimes get worse before better. As people try new exercises or activities it can sometimes create a flare also. Healing is not a linear upward line but rather there are many ups and downs along the journey. We help people all over the world navigate this healing process. Happy to chat with you if you'd like more info on the process!
I know exactly what your talking about Andrew. I am on about 9 mount since my MRI results showing a 10mm central herniation. I did not get my steroid shot until months 3 of recovery, July 5-2022.
I’m do planks every morning after stretching. I would love to get you guys on my podcast too talk about back health and the importance of keeping a strong core and how to prepare for heavy pack outs in the mountains after successful hunts.
Bro please share your story. How you recoverd . I am suffering from the exact same problem from last month . Please help
Stay the course bud. Planking and stretching will help tremendously. I still have minor aces and pains but my life is probly 95% of what it was prior to my injury. I did not have surgery so I can not talk on that but between stretching and anti inflammatory meds I was able to improve
Hi dear I just found out MRI showed I have 10mm on L-4 L-5 and 4mm on L-5 S-1 and i don’t feel my toe in my foot 🦶 but I can’t walk but as soon I sit to eat a food the pain goes like sciatica pain ? Any Hope advice cuz I don’t wanna do Surgery thanks 🙏 need some help advice
@@armanbishnoi2992I think you are from India right I can help you about it
Thank you this helped, I’m currently dealing with 3 herniated discs and spinal stenosis. What are some tips to sleep.
Have you checked out our free back series? Here's a link to it. You will get one email per day for 5 days with our top tips, exercises, stretches and massages for relief. We also have some specific sleep videos on this channel as well. www.spreadwhealth.com/free-low-back-program
Citric acid mono hydrate in hydolyte is derived perhaps by corn fermentation and we all know most corn is gm.
Citric acid monohydrate can cause vomiting and diahreah (can’t spell today)
Hi,
Interesting chat, however I didn't feel it answered the question posed in the title "How I Successfully Overcame my 10 mm Disc Herniation"? I'm currently recovering from herniated disc and curious about what you did (exercises/other) to aid with your recovery?
Hey! We cover this in our online program. You can enroll in our free 5 day los back series for very specific exercises and techniques sent to your inbox daily. www.spreadwhealth.com/free-low-back-program
Also subscribe and watch the free content available from this couple because it’s funny entertaining and helpful 😊
Sciatica since 2021. Learn to brace. Valsalva manuer helps.
Also do the McKinsey exercises.
We will get through this!!
Can be helpful for some, for sure. Valsalva and bracing can actually become detrimental in the long term though. Can end up causing pressure issues like hernias, prolapses, hemorrhoids etc. Fine in short term though. We go over a lot more than that in our limitless program. 💪 Will definitely get through it. The body has an amazing capacity to heal with time and support!
ive heard sciatica is super easy to fix. decompression machine. or at least the two ppl ive known that had it, 10 or 12 sessions and youre done
I've L4-L5 & L5-S1 DISC BULGE AND L5-S1 RTEROLISTHESIS does Disc bulge and retrolisthesis both require different type of exercises? Because Extension exercises like glute bridges,superman position exercises not solving my pain so I stopped doing those got some relief,I mean I did extension exercises for 3 months and it hurts daily after the workout. So I stopped doing it and I didn't have pain on daily basis but the pain is still there on certain movements when I was riding bike,while sitting in sofa,forward bending,sleeping on back etc.
Please suggest me correct exercises to fix my pain
Glad to hear you have made improvements! What's fun about all of these "diagnoses" is that there are millions of people that have disc bulges/herniations/degeneration or arthritis and don't even know because they don't present with pain.
I would argue that most movements are okay for the disc, however, too much of anything usually doesn't help. For instance, even drinking too much water can kill you! So, focusing solely on passive extension of the spine is not a suitable solution. You want to focus on controlled, slow flexion, extension, and lateral bending of the spine in various positions. You also want to strengthen the entire core (pelvis to shoulders) as well as the hips, feet, and shoulder blade positioning. Breath, and learning to breathe 360 degrees into your ribcage and lower back is also important. There is A LOT that can be done that you may not be aware of. This is the stuff that we help people figure out and apply to their daily lives via our programs.
Hi how are you doing and feeling?? I have same symptoms 10mm L4-L5 and 4mm on L5-S1 pain on both side of my legs 🦵 and the nerve on my toes only foot 🦶 dead ? Pls need some advice and help thanks God bless
I have similar - spondy at l4 and disc bulge l5/s1. Have you found the right combo ? I struggle with same
@@michellea7723 looks like we need more time and patience slowly work out and walking around day by day I’m seeing progress
@@ilhommuminov708 thanks yes I’m walking , PT and light stretch and strength training to try to calm it down. It’s been few months latest flare up and progress is slow :(
Thanks for sharing your experience. Can you do abdominal sit-ups and crunches now that you are recovered from the disc herniation ?
Yes! Here’s a link to our free low back series of exercises www.spreadwhealth.com/free-low-back-program
Appreciate all this. I’m want to try your program. 3 years of chronic back pain diagnosed 2 bulging discs maybe herniated now. Many Running and training set backs and change of expectations mentally physically etc but still hopeful. Any other advice? I’ve also torn both Achilles so mentally I think I’ve been through some tough periods but like I said we don’t give up. 😊 and thank you so much for your time and love for people. We Need this type of vulnerability and encouragement more that come from our downfalls. We all struggle someway somehow and yet there’s always a glimmer of light like this . Thank you. Not sure what program or programs to try. I’m currently in PT and still training/running workouts but limited. Please help?
Hey! I'm sorry that you're struggling. I'm glad you found us. Your mindset is great and I have absolutely no doubt that you are going to come out the other side stronger than ever! I'd be happy to jump on a free call with you and help decide on the best program. You can use this link to book a call in my calendar! www.spreadwhealth.com/consultation-signup-organic
I have a 10mm herniated disc in my c5-c6 w/ sever right neural foraminal narrowing. Can this be healed/fixed without surgery? Thanks
Hi, I also have c5 -c6 9mm. I started lifting weights to avoid surgery a year ago. It is much better but still have pain. What is going on with you?
@@shanashicne I ended up getting a disc replacement- c5 c6. Honestly a great decision. Found a quality surgeon and I’m about 4 months post op. Feel great, lifting again- not crazy but definitely moving and pain free.
@@alexschmidt8496 great to hear that! I will give it a year more and than decide. Good to know your positive experience, thanks!
@@shanashicne good luck to you! Best to avoid surgery if you can. If you have any questions- you can reach out.
@@alexschmidt8496 thank you. I will keep that in mind. ❤️
I have a herniated disc for 1 year
And still i can not sit properly
Thinking to have surgery
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There's a neurosurgeon in Florida that does a laser disc repair by just removing the herniation and scar tissue and letting the thing to heal by itself. He's the only one in the world that does such a procedure and oposes fusions and artificial discs and discectomies that don't really clear scar tissue. I'm not advertising, just saw the man broadcasting online his surgeries and answering to all questions from the public. Check him out, curious what your opininion on this would be.
Awesome to hear that there are some more conservative solutions out there! I'm of the thought that if you are able to control your limbs, bowels, bladder, and sexual function, then you can probably get away with taking the "long route" of rehab to get through it. If, however, you are experiencing loss of control any of the things I listed, surgery is most definitely warranted and should be sought out immediately.
@@whealth_ Yeah of course. He doesn't even operate on minor herniations that don't cause numbness and/or pain cause. He just clears up scar tissue and he broadcasts the whole thing live on youtube, know it sounds crazy, but he does.
@@rigaleb thats awesome, do you happen to have the name of the doctor?
@@pulsefiend Deuk. Search him on youtube, he broadcasts live some surgeries
@@pulsefiendI believe it’s Deuk Spine Institute
How do I learn more about your online program?
www.spreadwhealth.com is our website.
And here is a link to our free introductory 5 day back course. That is a great place to start. www.spreadwhealth.com/free-low-back-program
Thank you!
Guys You maybe can help me.... I Train without pain...i Move without pain most of the time....but when i'm SAT down for time or stand up for time or sleep and wake up...i feel My back really compressed
Here’s a link to our free low back series with some exercises www.spreadwhealth.com/free-low-back-program
Hi, how can I contact you?
info@spreadwhealth.com
Can you helo from distance i live in Germany i am a mma and bjj athlete and want to be strong again i have two bulding disc and one herniated disc
Yes- everything we do is online! Shoot us an email info@spreadwhealth.com we'd be happy to help you!
Did you have foot drop?
No, I did not.
Why is this guy shirtless ?😮
What's wrong about dressing properly in front of a lady?
My disc is 1.6mm😮
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Don't let the butcher's cut on you.....they don't know what they are doing. If they did, every surgery would be very successful.
Sounds like two just have shit luck! If you two are feeling up to it would be great to see some bedroom footage! Hopefully Andy’s back doesn’t flair up during the intense, passionate, hot session! 🤤😋
weird fuck
Wrong. Just wrong.
John sarno saved my life, two herniated discs and had to give up weightlifting which was my safe space. Mindset is huge