Ive used the Map and I was left more confused than anything 😂. Guys, imagine the Map like a cosmology summary for Grant Morrison's stories. Not all of the realms are shown for his work (such as the 5th Dimension, which he used in several comics) YET ALONE every writer (primarily Scott, who has added canonical expansions to it)
It was more a map of the different vibrational planes made of different sources and how they work within different layers or the lack of them, is not even about hearchy until past The Source of Wall. It was not a map of all territories which is what so many DC downplayers not understood, there wasn't much of a need to add the Microverse or clarify there were higher spatial dimensions within The Orrery of Worlds, it was implicit, the summary of the map just differenciated that all physical existence (space and time dimensions) was different from the archetypal realms, and that that was different from Limbo that lack stories, and that was different from Nil that are thoughts of The Overvoid, and that is different from the Overvoid which is nothing without narrative. It could have done better, but for Grant it was surely more important making the map specific the different types of substances that made DC and their trascendences rather than mention all locations.
@@sorjonen8358 Felt that the Fifth Dimension and Microverse are fundamental though. Additionally, we know different frequencies are how their ships come to the 3rd Dimension (JLA 78-80 iirc) AND how Heavens Ladder Supermans vision was altered in spectrum by Wally phasing
@@wishwaag5074 absolutely yes, look at the top of map multiverse. The endless is Multiversal concept, they were born along with the multiverse like the Multiverse is the endless itself.
@@godspeedforce9371hypertime basically contains infinite universes and timelines, even destroyed or erased ones. The bleed contains infinite universes and dimensions, but it’s closed off only to 52 main worlds because those are the closest earths to prime earth. The godsphere also contains infinite universes and dimensions, and works independently from time. Limbo is basically just infinite nothingness, with all the forgotten characters, and the monitor sphere is where the monitors would watch every universe/multiverse, NiL originally existed in the overvoid(omniverse) before Superman’s wish with the miracle machine.
@@godspeedforce9371 Tell us about the interviews and comics explaining that 1 universe in DC is a multiverse because it contains infinite possibilities/timelines.
With destiny shown up in the Edge I imagine the Endless and their parents are pretty much at the top of everything except for some few entities. Thinking of it Father Time could be abstract manifestation of time as a whole including Hypertime and Mother Night manifestation of space in the omniverse the 2 halves of the Divine Continuum
13:04 also flashpoint beyond that happened after dark crisis on infinite earths is basically another crisis in time is basically the infinite hypertime crisis
It actually was stated that the lightning shown on the Map is the Speed Force, I think in The Absolute Multiversity "Eight crackling lightning-like paths link the Speed Force ring to the Source via the outer Monitor Sphere."
True but our multiverse does have a speed force reservoir inside the multiverse unless you think everyone they enter the speed force they are going outside the multiverse
This is probably why Marvel hasn't bothered to make a dedicated map for it's Multiverse. Marvel has so many dimensions not tied to the 616 universe and countless universes.
@LumosTheromax Yeah it so it makes a map inapplicable in real. For example, they still use the Grant Morrison designed map in 2024, even though it's been stated that the revived Multiverse isn't 52 but Infinite lol.
Also you should do videos on parliaments like parliament of green, parliament of metals etc., one of the most interesting concept in DC but it's not considered at all😢 when it comes to exploring it! Also it would be great if there are more things about multiverse we don't know of than we know of... Just a thought 💭!
Love it keep making more, you should do a dive into doom patrol, webcam parrot has done this, but i would like to see you do it, they need love, captain atom was thrown underneath the bus, which sucks.
@@LumosTheromax Well, true form darkseid killed the quintessence, including spectre and phantom stranger, which the presence stated they could end all of creation. The reason I am asking is because I am making a scaling post on Quora for both Raven and Darkseid
Ngl the Map of the Multiverse is probably my favorite scan of all time, explains 90% of the cosmology
Its barely 40% of the cosmology
It's quite clear@@smal750
Somebody gotta update the map by adding the 5th dimension 6th dimension greater omniverse final heaven and more
Ive used the Map and I was left more confused than anything 😂. Guys, imagine the Map like a cosmology summary for Grant Morrison's stories. Not all of the realms are shown for his work (such as the 5th Dimension, which he used in several comics) YET ALONE every writer (primarily Scott, who has added canonical expansions to it)
It was more a map of the different vibrational planes made of different sources and how they work within different layers or the lack of them, is not even about hearchy until past The Source of Wall. It was not a map of all territories which is what so many DC downplayers not understood, there wasn't much of a need to add the Microverse or clarify there were higher spatial dimensions within The Orrery of Worlds, it was implicit, the summary of the map just differenciated that all physical existence (space and time dimensions) was different from the archetypal realms, and that that was different from Limbo that lack stories, and that was different from Nil that are thoughts of The Overvoid, and that is different from the Overvoid which is nothing without narrative. It could have done better, but for Grant it was surely more important making the map specific the different types of substances that made DC and their trascendences rather than mention all locations.
@@sorjonen8358 Felt that the Fifth Dimension and Microverse are fundamental though. Additionally, we know different frequencies are how their ships come to the 3rd Dimension (JLA 78-80 iirc) AND how Heavens Ladder Supermans vision was altered in spectrum by Wally phasing
Great video and explanation and scaling bro
Hey Lumos can you give me some of super man feats op feats that u know please 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹
@@EdehEmmanuel-d7r Watch his Top Ten Superman Feats video
Destiny's book contains Monitor Sphere, CAS & Mandrakk
Yes bcz his book effects even endless too
💯, because endless is omniversal concept and death is the last concept who ended the omniverse including 5D/imagination and concept of endless
no its not
@@wishwaag5074 absolutely yes, look at the top of map multiverse. The endless is Multiversal concept, they were born along with the multiverse like the Multiverse is the endless itself.
It's worth noting the Speedforce can apparently reach Marvel as Barry has raced Marvel's fastest Speedsters once
This map is outdated dc cosmology has grown since and this map needs to be updated
@@chaneladriana6829 how do you explain to a dc downplayer that dc doesnt just have 52 universes
I'm fairly sure it didn't have everything from the start
@@godspeedforce9371 easy peasy. You just show them the infinite multiverse statement and the 52 universes are just the local multiverse
@@godspeedforce9371hypertime basically contains infinite universes and timelines, even destroyed or erased ones. The bleed contains infinite universes and dimensions, but it’s closed off only to 52 main worlds because those are the closest earths to prime earth. The godsphere also contains infinite universes and dimensions, and works independently from time. Limbo is basically just infinite nothingness, with all the forgotten characters, and the monitor sphere is where the monitors would watch every universe/multiverse, NiL originally existed in the overvoid(omniverse) before Superman’s wish with the miracle machine.
@@godspeedforce9371 Tell us about the interviews and comics explaining that 1 universe in DC is a multiverse because it contains infinite possibilities/timelines.
Yeah the map should be updated with other realms etc.
With destiny shown up in the Edge I imagine the Endless and their parents are pretty much at the top of everything except for some few entities. Thinking of it Father Time could be abstract manifestation of time as a whole including Hypertime and Mother Night manifestation of space in the omniverse the 2 halves of the Divine Continuum
13:04 also flashpoint beyond that happened after dark crisis on infinite earths is basically another crisis in time is basically the infinite hypertime crisis
kinda
All crisis events are in hypertime
@@LumosTheromax not all crises threaten the existence of all of hypertime like flashpoint beyond did if memory serves
The emotional spectrum is the map. It's in visible colours so... yeah
Its missing the local wendys location
It actually was stated that the lightning shown on the Map is the Speed Force, I think in The Absolute Multiversity
"Eight crackling lightning-like paths link the Speed Force ring to the Source via the outer Monitor Sphere."
Yeah and I'm pretty sure that the "colors" is actually the Light Sources of The Emotional Spectrum that The Lanterns draw their power from.
The latest flash annual comic also confirms to wally that the speed force actually emanates from beyond the source wall
True but our multiverse does have a speed force reservoir inside the multiverse unless you think everyone they enter the speed force they are going outside the multiverse
@@LumosTheromaxthe speed force wall?
Source?
@@Ecronicron the speed force wall is just the speed of light and is considered separate from the speed force itself
Where do you scale doom partol at their strongest They have some inconsistent feats and some of the best
This is probably why Marvel hasn't bothered to make a dedicated map for it's Multiverse.
Marvel has so many dimensions not tied to the 616 universe and countless universes.
So does dc lmao
@LumosTheromax
Yeah it so it makes a map inapplicable in real.
For example, they still use the Grant Morrison designed map in 2024, even though it's been stated that the revived Multiverse isn't 52 but Infinite lol.
18:42 Anyone know where that Imaginary axis/scott Snyder video is from?
Just RUclips Scott Snyder imaginary axis
@@LumosTheromaxwhen I look it up your videos just pop up & then other randoms. Could u just send me link 😭
Also you should do videos on parliaments like parliament of green, parliament of metals etc., one of the most interesting concept in DC but it's not considered at all😢 when it comes to exploring it! Also it would be great if there are more things about multiverse we don't know of than we know of... Just a thought 💭!
It was explored in new52 Animal Man and Swamp Thing runs
But was left forgotten afterwards pretty much
3:57 dark crisis on infinite earths brought multiverse 2 the infinite multiverse back ?
Yes
And spectre or talking about under rated cosmic enties
Love it keep making more, you should do a dive into doom patrol, webcam parrot has done this, but i would like to see you do it, they need love, captain atom was thrown underneath the bus, which sucks.
Video ideas doom partol mybe like dream or just something from vertigo
The most idiotic reveal about this map was its backside during Metal
Loved the series, hate the way it got handled
I disagree it was an interesting addition although it got overplayed
But can matter eater lad eat perpetua?
Lmao no
Do you think Unkindness Raven reaches the top 5 strongest in Dc
No
@@LumosTheromax who can beat her
Can True form Darkseid beat unkindness Raven
@@godspeedforce9371 nah you’d have to be beyond creation level
@@LumosTheromax Well, true form darkseid killed the quintessence, including spectre and phantom stranger, which the presence stated they could end all of creation.
The reason I am asking is because I am making a scaling post on Quora for both Raven and Darkseid
@@godspeedforce9371 so he’s in that tier
He hasn’t done anything beyond creation tier without amps and he did kill the quintessence with them
Or persence family
Brave of you to assume guardians don't lie about it somehow 8:40
The blue cowards proved to be treacherous, this might be a lie of theirs gone weird
Lie about what? The emerald space?
Discord link?
I want it too
Yes ty
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Yup got raided
Add me on doscord
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