Hey guys just a quick addition to something I forgot to mention in the video. If you intend on installing a Wham Bam Flex Plate on an Elegoo Saturn 4 Ultra, there is a file you will need to download and run on your printer to adjust the firmware to account for the added thickness to your build plate. I put a link in the description for anyone interested. Thanks @Silent_Steel for reminding me!
This sounds like a pretty important thing that should be included in the video. I came her specifically to get details on this and then to find it isn't detailed in the video... guess I won't bother watching.
@@aaronbono4688 It is only important if installing on that specific printer. This was a general review of the flex plate product itself, not specific to any one printer. I just happened to install mine on a Saturn 4 Ultra.
@@makerscorner93 well I don't feel comfortable making a change like this on my printer because it also auto updates and I don't want it to undo the change without me knowing and then have the machine punch through the FEP. I'll just have to pull out my old Saturn 1 if I want to print directly on the build plate because it's already got the flexplate installed.
@@Zeriel00 @aaronbono4688 You two girls are complaining/crying because the guy explained 95% of it in the video and wrote 5% in the comments? For free? Explained and showed how to do what? And even publicly complained to the company to do more with the sandpaper? for real?
Nope. Just applied the "firmware" update from Wham Bam and got right back to printing as normal. The only reason I put firmware in quotes is because it isn't an actual firmware, but rather just changes some of the limit switch offsets. Thanks for watching!
Technically no as long as your build plate is level and working before you install the flex plate system, you shouldn't "need" to re-level, but it's typically a good idea to do so anyway. I personally didn't, and have had zero issues
Hey Makes Corner thank you so much for the video! Is exactly what I needed. I have a problem thou= I use a 3dJake flexible plate cause here in Europe wham bam is not that popular, can I set the thickness of the wham bam in the script you posted to the one of the 3dJake flexible one? Also, could you help me manually calibrating the printer after the installation of the plate? I mean what is the procedure? Many thanks!
I will check when I get home from work to see if the file can be modified for your 3dJake plate, and will also find the link to another RUclipsr who has already done a great video on manually calibrating the Saturn 4 Ultra
@@makerscorner93 Thank you very very much cause I was also wondering about the foreign object sensor detecting the plate...maybe the gcode might solve that....
Apologies for the delayed response. I have looked at the script and it looks like it should be easy enough to modify as long as you know the thickness of your 3dJake plate using an application like "notepad++".
Any reason why you left out having to flash a different firmware to make this build plate work? I see that it does work but how well will this turn out when Elegoo turns out more firmware updates and Wham Bam does not...
The only reason it was left out is because this was a review for the Wham Bam Flexplate system in general. I just happen to be installing it on a Saturn 4 Ultra. That is why I decided to leave a pinned comment mentioning the different firmware. In the future I will try to be a little more clear on things like that. As for the Wham Bam "firmware" it is only adjusting the Z axis homing values and is not an actual "firmware" update. That being said you should always follow manufacturer specific instructions when doing any modifications to any printer. Thanks for the comment
Wow Yes it is possible to get a Flexible buildplate on my Saturn 4 Ultra. I just received my printer 2 days ago, and after the first print I was almost regretting my upgrade from my Mars. Especially because you can't submerge the Saturn Ultra 4 buildplate. I was so used to popping of the flexplate while buildplate was still mounted. No mess no hassle. Ps. Is there a way to automatically get the buildplate to top hight after a print? ❤❤❤
I think there is a way by modifying the "End Gcode" section in the slicer setting, but I'm not 100% sure exactly how to do it. Would be best to ask on one of the Facebook groups for someone a little more knowledgeable about those kinds of things.
This was Siraya Tech Fast ABS Like resin. I use Siraya Tech almost exclusively in my resin printers. I've been resin printing for almost 5 years now and Siraya Tech has always been consistently good in my experience. Thanks for watching!
The problem with the S4U is that you need to modify the software to make the plate work, because it doesn't have the screws to manually adjust the height. Everything is done automatically. If you're on the ultra DON'T follow this video, you could try using Hot water instead to remove prints and supports.
There are still perfectly good reasons to use a flex plate on a S4U. Not all of us use our resin printers for minis. I personally print a lot of large flat items on mine. The flex plate makes print removal so much faster and easier. You do need to modify the Z homing values for the S4U but this is as simple as putting a file provided by Wham Bam on a flash drive and selecting the file on your printer to make the adjustments.
@@makerscorner93 Trust me nobody wants a Flex Plate more than me. I literally broke my arm and after surgery don't have the strength to remove the prints. I also print large Anime figures and I know about the file you can download. But it's still a big risk because if the printer updates without you knowing or you forget about it the file could get replaced and the printer screen get broken. Also, due to the way the S4U is designed if the screen and FEP breaks resin would get inside and destroy it. Ellegoo also doesn't ship anything to me I had to get my printer used on eBay and pay 500$ for it so I have no way to replace it or get parts.
You should add in the method whambam put out to override the "foreign material" error that most people get when trying to install a flex plate... leads people to think it's not possible when it is... bit daunting though lol
I realized that right after I hit upload. I will try to add an annotation in the video to check the description for the link to the files. Good catch! I assume you have one on your printer? If so how do you like it?
yep... I used a knock off version but still used wham bams code edit... strongly recommend to those who use a knock off version to verify your plates thickness is the same as a wham bam tho
Just wanted to come back here and say... I don't know why some people are dead set against flex plates... especially for plate building... was told not to use a flex plate if i wanted to get read of the lil bit of "elphants foot" and i listen and struggled... but just printed on my flex plate without even trying and bam! No elphant foot barely sticking out
I find most of the people who say to stay away from flex plates are entitled elitists who believe that using such products are only for armatures who don't know what they are doing. The reality of it is there are plenty of use cases for flexible build plates on resin printers. Even for those of us who are very experienced. Moral of the story, people are close minded, crazy, and weird. So do what you want to do, and be happy with it! haha
@@makerscorner93 1 last thing... you should really edit this video and recreate how to download and install the whambam code so that people can use a flex plate... im still finding zero vids and almost nothing about it other then a reddit post... this videos views would explode... add in links ect...
@@zakspop for the most part no... but if you put in the wrong info in and the plate crashes through and wrecks the screen... then it probably will... but installing a flex plate won't void the warranty
absolute load of bolloks co is u put the wambam magnetic plate it comes up with an error as the printer will tell u that there is something on the build plate pal so if ur guna do a review then do it properley, i have the saturn 4 ultra with lates firmware so do a proper review
Again this is a review of the Wham Bam Flex Plate system in general. NOT SPECIFIC TO ANY PARTICULAR PRINTER. I just happened to install mine on my S4U. There is a pinned comment addressing this. People should always refer to the manufacturer instructions when installing any 3rd party modifications to any printer.
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Hey guys just a quick addition to something I forgot to mention in the video. If you intend on installing a Wham Bam Flex Plate on an Elegoo Saturn 4 Ultra, there is a file you will need to download and run on your printer to adjust the firmware to account for the added thickness to your build plate. I put a link in the description for anyone interested. Thanks @Silent_Steel for reminding me!
This sounds like a pretty important thing that should be included in the video. I came her specifically to get details on this and then to find it isn't detailed in the video... guess I won't bother watching.
@@aaronbono4688 It is only important if installing on that specific printer. This was a general review of the flex plate product itself, not specific to any one printer. I just happened to install mine on a Saturn 4 Ultra.
@@makerscorner93 well I don't feel comfortable making a change like this on my printer because it also auto updates and I don't want it to undo the change without me knowing and then have the machine punch through the FEP. I'll just have to pull out my old Saturn 1 if I want to print directly on the build plate because it's already got the flexplate installed.
@@makerscorner93 This is SUPER important because people following your video WILL BREAK their printer. I would make another video and remove this one!
@@Zeriel00 @aaronbono4688 You two girls are complaining/crying because the guy explained 95% of it in the video and wrote 5% in the comments? For free? Explained and showed how to do what? And even publicly complained to the company to do more with the sandpaper? for real?
Did you recalibrate elegoo saturn 4 after installing the flex plate?
Nope. Just applied the "firmware" update from Wham Bam and got right back to printing as normal. The only reason I put firmware in quotes is because it isn't an actual firmware, but rather just changes some of the limit switch offsets. Thanks for watching!
did you have to manual level after the Gcode installation or just run Gcode, reboot - ready to go for printing calibration file???
Technically no as long as your build plate is level and working before you install the flex plate system, you shouldn't "need" to re-level, but it's typically a good idea to do so anyway. I personally didn't, and have had zero issues
@@makerscorner93 thanks for the reply just about to pull of my first cones of calibration test with the calibration feature on the printer cheers
Hey Makes Corner thank you so much for the video! Is exactly what I needed. I have a problem thou= I use a 3dJake flexible plate cause here in Europe wham bam is not that popular, can I set the thickness of the wham bam in the script you posted to the one of the 3dJake flexible one? Also, could you help me manually calibrating the printer after the installation of the plate? I mean what is the procedure? Many thanks!
I will check when I get home from work to see if the file can be modified for your 3dJake plate, and will also find the link to another RUclipsr who has already done a great video on manually calibrating the Saturn 4 Ultra
@@makerscorner93 Thank you very very much cause I was also wondering about the foreign object sensor detecting the plate...maybe the gcode might solve that....
Apologies for the delayed response. I have looked at the script and it looks like it should be easy enough to modify as long as you know the thickness of your 3dJake plate using an application like "notepad++".
@@makerscorner93 which line of script has to be modified?
@@makerscorner93 hey ok so if I run the gcode (3djake flexiplate is 2.6 so I am going ot use FBSR gcode) I don't need to print a spacer correct?
Any reason why you left out having to flash a different firmware to make this build plate work? I see that it does work but how well will this turn out when Elegoo turns out more firmware updates and Wham Bam does not...
The only reason it was left out is because this was a review for the Wham Bam Flexplate system in general. I just happen to be installing it on a Saturn 4 Ultra. That is why I decided to leave a pinned comment mentioning the different firmware. In the future I will try to be a little more clear on things like that. As for the Wham Bam "firmware" it is only adjusting the Z axis homing values and is not an actual "firmware" update. That being said you should always follow manufacturer specific instructions when doing any modifications to any printer. Thanks for the comment
That's a cool model, the articulated dragon. Do you have a link to download the file?
Sorry for the late reply. I believe this was the model I used. makerworld.com/en/models/450835#profileId-357821
Wow Yes it is possible to get a Flexible buildplate on my Saturn 4 Ultra. I just received my printer 2 days ago, and after the first print I was almost regretting my upgrade from my Mars. Especially because you can't submerge the Saturn Ultra 4 buildplate. I was so used to popping of the flexplate while buildplate was still mounted. No mess no hassle. Ps. Is there a way to automatically get the buildplate to top hight after a print? ❤❤❤
I think there is a way by modifying the "End Gcode" section in the slicer setting, but I'm not 100% sure exactly how to do it. Would be best to ask on one of the Facebook groups for someone a little more knowledgeable about those kinds of things.
video was amazing whats the resin u was using
This was Siraya Tech Fast ABS Like resin. I use Siraya Tech almost exclusively in my resin printers. I've been resin printing for almost 5 years now and Siraya Tech has always been consistently good in my experience. Thanks for watching!
The problem with the S4U is that you need to modify the software to make the plate work, because it doesn't have the screws to manually adjust the height. Everything is done automatically. If you're on the ultra DON'T follow this video, you could try using Hot water instead to remove prints and supports.
There are still perfectly good reasons to use a flex plate on a S4U. Not all of us use our resin printers for minis. I personally print a lot of large flat items on mine. The flex plate makes print removal so much faster and easier. You do need to modify the Z homing values for the S4U but this is as simple as putting a file provided by Wham Bam on a flash drive and selecting the file on your printer to make the adjustments.
@@makerscorner93 Trust me nobody wants a Flex Plate more than me. I literally broke my arm and after surgery don't have the strength to remove the prints. I also print large Anime figures and I know about the file you can download. But it's still a big risk because if the printer updates without you knowing or you forget about it the file could get replaced and the printer screen get broken. Also, due to the way the S4U is designed if the screen and FEP breaks resin would get inside and destroy it. Ellegoo also doesn't ship anything to me I had to get my printer used on eBay and pay 500$ for it so I have no way to replace it or get parts.
Im having that same issue with the sandpaper. Not enough. Heading out tomorrow for more. To be fair i think its going to take a lot of sandpaper.
As long as your plate isn't super bowed like mine was, just scuffing it up a bit "should" be enough.
You should add in the method whambam put out to override the "foreign material" error that most people get when trying to install a flex plate... leads people to think it's not possible when it is... bit daunting though lol
I realized that right after I hit upload. I will try to add an annotation in the video to check the description for the link to the files. Good catch! I assume you have one on your printer? If so how do you like it?
yep... I used a knock off version but still used wham bams code edit... strongly recommend to those who use a knock off version to verify your plates thickness is the same as a wham bam tho
@@makerscorner93 Great video tho
thanks for showing us
You're very welcome. Thanks for watching!
Just wanted to come back here and say... I don't know why some people are dead set against flex plates... especially for plate building... was told not to use a flex plate if i wanted to get read of the lil bit of "elphants foot" and i listen and struggled... but just printed on my flex plate without even trying and bam! No elphant foot barely sticking out
I find most of the people who say to stay away from flex plates are entitled elitists who believe that using such products are only for armatures who don't know what they are doing. The reality of it is there are plenty of use cases for flexible build plates on resin printers. Even for those of us who are very experienced. Moral of the story, people are close minded, crazy, and weird. So do what you want to do, and be happy with it! haha
@@makerscorner93 agreed, lol... I love a flex plate... dont have to worry about scratching the plate or cutting up my thumb when my scraper slips...
@@makerscorner93 1 last thing... you should really edit this video and recreate how to download and install the whambam code so that people can use a flex plate... im still finding zero vids and almost nothing about it other then a reddit post... this videos views would explode... add in links ect...
Wouldn't this void your Warranty?
@@zakspop for the most part no... but if you put in the wrong info in and the plate crashes through and wrecks the screen... then it probably will... but installing a flex plate won't void the warranty
absolute load of bolloks co is u put the wambam magnetic plate it comes up with an error as the printer will tell u that there is something on the build plate pal so if ur guna do a review then do it properley, i have the saturn 4 ultra with lates firmware so do a proper review
Again this is a review of the Wham Bam Flex Plate system in general. NOT SPECIFIC TO ANY PARTICULAR PRINTER. I just happened to install mine on my S4U. There is a pinned comment addressing this. People should always refer to the manufacturer instructions when installing any 3rd party modifications to any printer.