I keep looking at that model over on Cults. I've got a huge, huge pile of unpainted grey resin already, but I'll probably buy it sooner or later, it's been on my wish-list for a while. I wonder if I could add ball-joints or swivels to it to make it poseable? Just a thought.
@@herculeholmes504 I have tried in the past to make a more posable framework for my mechs. Regular, more brittle resins don't like my solutions to this, so far. I will keep plugging away at it. For now, I have found that pinning or a mix of glue and putty is best, but the pose is locked in position. Best, JBR
An honest review, Elgoo should be happy, seriously. There's some great feedback there for the next iteration. Knight looks great too, I can't believe that happened at the end.
A few tips to help you out- 1- Boil some water, dip your parts with the supports attached briefly into the water, the supports will fall off easy and leave far less supports marks. 2- Buy Super Glue kicker, instantly activates the glue, and no mess like baking soda.
The first person to address this plate issue. Thanks for that. First time I saw this printer I thought, oh my god, what pain in the a.. it will be to clean this plate. Yet no reviewer mentioned it. Everyone will waste a roll of tissue paper just to clean the gap. Maybe they can make it optional for people who want autoleveling.
My thoughts exactly when I first seen it and using it confirmed my thoughts, for some it won't be an issue and the fast prints and quality will outweigh the negative but in my small shed it was too much for me
3d printed mechs knees are normally much weaker then glue, being able to fuse the parts together is much better. I have never had a problem with John’s files they all work amazing for me and my stock mono 2 settings. I’m pretty happy that the only issue with his files is something most files do. I really recommend supporting him even if it’s just downloading his free files, he certainly deserves it and is one my inspirations for getting into sculpting and printing models.
You're the first reviewer I've seen showing that you can have more than four test models on the build plate. That make the feature even better. I expect you (or someone else) could design a better build plate that is more standard. I've got a Saturn 4 Ultra myself and may take on that challenge. I'll try printing it with carbon fiber reinforced PET and if that's not strong enough I'll have some parts fabricated by PCB Way.
For those of us that don't live in frozen hell-scapes the lack of a heater isn't a thing. Also I've gotten very little resin between the plate and base. It will alert you if you don't have enough resin so maybe don't overfill the tank? Just my thoughts. That knight looks amazing!
I was looking at this printer but in the end went with the M7 for all the reasons you pointed out. M7 is so fast it blew my mind. defiantly made the right choice.
I’ve watched all your videos and there is no way that happened at the end! Ninjon and Squidmar cameo to let you body paint them as a Warhammer model is just obscene.
Watching this while changing a FEP. :D Awesome work and very inspiring. I've got an Anycubic X2. Waiting for the next big leap to jump on a new printer. The X2 is going pretty wel...... let me get back to you after changing the FEP... haha Thanks for the vid!
Hello mate, excellent print. Are you able to share with me your settings? I'm really struggling with printing anything big. Did you change any of the wait times? What was your exposure?
Wow ! I can't believe that happened at the end ! I know you are not a review chanel but I'm looking for a large 3D printer to upgrade from my 2020 Saturn, is the 8K S a good printer? Or should I go with the Jupiter SE?
How has your heating band held up? I am trying out a heat pad meant for reptile enclosures. It will be a funny setup but I'm interested to see if yours holds up with the weird tilts.
I have owned a S4U for a few months now. I HALF agree about the clunky build plate unit, BUT once you set up an intelligent/optimal workflow with it you do not even notice or care about its more complex shapes than a typical build plate! I clean mine in equal time, and just a fraction less ease, than other 'normal build plate' printers I have. Firstly, DO NOT use the supplied bib - it is a waste of time and ADDS more cleaning/wasted time! Use a large baking tray to feed under the build plate, over the vat, to remove it all. You are going to use that tray for removal, of parts from the build plate and cleaning them etc anyway, so cleaning that tray was always going to be done anyway. No bib to clean 'extra', as well then.... Cleaning the top of the build plate, with a brush, over a tub of IPA or Metho, is no different than cleaning the top of any other build plate really.... thus the grand total effort is near dead equal to ANY other build plate! On another note - a Wash Station method of cleaning is a complete waste of time, and a poor result also!! Just use a 'large' tub, say 15litre, just half full, of IPA or metho, and either hand 'swish' parts, and/or brush them. It can all be done in a FRACTION of the time you run a wash station. Also, a wash station stirs up all the bottom dwelling gunge into a cesspool of crud to wash your items! It is exactly like you were going to take a bath yourself but did a crap in it FIRST...... lol. A tub and hand washing does NOT do that - it does not stir up prior bottom dwelling crud - thus the items come out cleaner just from that single wash process. No need for a second 'rinse' step either (but it can't hurt if you want to be "perfect"). All in all a wash station is a waste of MONEY - a notable amount of money. For pretty well ZERO gain, plus some added negatives! But your drying/curing station is a BIG POSITIVE to have and use. Though you can do it via a much cheaper set up (home made). One issue with both wash stations (even though they are useless!) and curing stations is the SIZE. You can make a home made HUGE station for a fraction of the cost of a bought one! And thus fit ALL items in, for drying and curing. As for a heater - well I have no need for one where I print. BUT I do have 'mini heaters' in most of the printers here. You can buy 'no name' mini heaters from AliExpress for about usd$25 and they work PERFECTLY FINE - as good as any manufacturers in built, or supplied heater. Mine take about 8 mins to get the enclosure to 30degC (from about an 18degC room temp). They are quite powerful and easily bring the temp up FAST. And you only need about 20degC or so for prints to be perfectly fine anyway, thus why I rarely even turn the heaters on anyway! I THOUGHT maybe running 30degC as a standard would be a good idea and outcome, but it was a zero benefit end result as it turns out - thus a 'waste' of that 8 minutes heating time anyway! Mind you I would start the heaters ahead of time anyway (but not setup to be on at all times the printer is powered on!), thus it was really a zero time waste for when I go to print. It was more a waste of ENERGY having them on, for the zero benefit in my typical room temperature case. (I have seen the Anycubic Mini Heater on sales for as low as usd$15 too!! That is a very good little heater also.) I get to use and see almost all printers (well a lot anyway) and NO OTHER comes close the the Saturn 4 Ultra as of the current models!! It is SUPER FAST, with no downsides to that. Basically just over twice the speed of all other 'fast' printers! It is a game changer - the next generation in the evolution of resin printing!!! I HIGHLY recommend it as the best resin printer to buy in 2024 (so far still) !!!! It also has ZERO issues or negatives!
Well that was strange. I have never seen a printer with a vat that moves instead of the build plate. It probably does have some advantages over the normal design although I don't know what those advantages are. Maybe that's how it can print so fast?
Do you know if it it's a decent idea to have the saturn 4 ultra on my bedroom if I use a fume extractor like yours + I have the printer inside a still air glove box?. I would like the toxicity to be close to 0% as I would be spending a lot of time in the bedroom My idea is to have everything on the Glove Box (Printer + cure/wash station + Tools)
im currently overthinking to also start a yt channel, you are my 100% idol in this case. cause of you i got printers, cause of you i started a small business and somehow i feel like i would like to put my own journey on camera. thank you.
Hey sam love your videos i just wanted to ask is there a place here in NI where i can dispose of my used methylated spirit? I called my local council and havent gotten a word back from them.
Thanks mate! Shoot down to your local dump and see if there's a bit for hazardous waste (I don't think that's what it's called exactly but I can't remember right now) if not it'll be easier to ask the boys there where you can dispose of it
Also once I'm done with mine I pour it back into the empty bottles that I keep and leave it outside in the sun to evaporate and cure, in winter I let it evaporate and then cure the remnants in the bottle in the curing station
I just brought a saturn 4 ultra and so far the experience has been terrible and i haven't even received it yet. Seems like this weird build plate has everyone annoyed... like does it really need to be that bulky...im 6'6 with huge hands and im worried hiw im going to clean between it.
I am running a resin print farm with 20 saturn 4 the cleaning of the build plate is nothing easy as with a system 8s way quicker then leveling. Best Printer ever machines are running 24 7 and 1 or 2 half faliures.
I'm a big fan of this creator. He has a whole range of knight-sized titans, many of them inspired by mecha from other IPs such as Robotech/Macross or Gundam, but heavily reimagined to make them fit perfectly alongside other gridark mecha. Unfortunately his Patron is currently on hiatus, but hopefully one day he'll return to doing mechs again.
My experience with printer has been a massive amount of failures. After messing with times for resins, and running slow and fast it fails more times than not. It has really been a waste of money.
First time comment, I loved your painting guide but struggled to find the link for the Gold recipe from Legendary (fcy fee - subtitles). Your Scottish accent confused me!! Only Joking (Sry I am an old fart with bad hearing) Kind regards Anwar
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The build plate design sucks (although the release is nice), the AI camera is pointless as you can only see one side of your print, I could care less about a heater but I know that matters to a lot of people.…I’ll take the Saturn Ultra 3 over the 4 any day.
You can literally buy a heater as an addon to the printer. So those who dont need it save money. Build plate is messy, but with a flex plate or just some discipline in your cleaning process, it's easy to avoid. Rubbish critique points.
Get a flex plate and your messy problems are solved. You can just remove the flex plate from the original when the print is done. You never need to take off the original plate.
I think your wrong about including the heater. Not everyone needs it. Brings down the cost for consumers. Also the heater they are selling blows the heat in the wrong direction.
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Glorious! Thanks for using that model!
Best,
JBR
I keep looking at that model over on Cults. I've got a huge, huge pile of unpainted grey resin already, but I'll probably buy it sooner or later, it's been on my wish-list for a while.
I wonder if I could add ball-joints or swivels to it to make it poseable? Just a thought.
@@herculeholmes504 I have tried in the past to make a more posable framework for my mechs. Regular, more brittle resins don't like my solutions to this, so far. I will keep plugging away at it.
For now, I have found that pinning or a mix of glue and putty is best, but the pose is locked in position.
Best,
JBR
I can't believe that happened at the end! Squidmar will either be flattered or repulsed over what you did to that body pillow with his image on!
😂😂😂😂😂😂 Legend
An honest review, Elgoo should be happy, seriously. There's some great feedback there for the next iteration. Knight looks great too, I can't believe that happened at the end.
Thanks brother you legend
A few tips to help you out-
1- Boil some water, dip your parts with the supports attached briefly into the water, the supports will fall off easy and leave far less supports marks.
2- Buy Super Glue kicker, instantly activates the glue, and no mess like baking soda.
Excellent advice/tip!!! Alwasy use HOT WATER for sure!!
Well done! That's a great build
Thanks brother!
The first person to address this plate issue. Thanks for that. First time I saw this printer I thought, oh my god, what pain in the a.. it will be to clean this plate. Yet no reviewer mentioned it. Everyone will waste a roll of tissue paper just to clean the gap. Maybe they can make it optional for people who want autoleveling.
My thoughts exactly when I first seen it and using it confirmed my thoughts, for some it won't be an issue and the fast prints and quality will outweigh the negative but in my small shed it was too much for me
3d printed mechs knees are normally much weaker then glue, being able to fuse the parts together is much better. I have never had a problem with John’s files they all work amazing for me and my stock mono 2 settings. I’m pretty happy that the only issue with his files is something most files do. I really recommend supporting him even if it’s just downloading his free files, he certainly deserves it and is one my inspirations for getting into sculpting and printing models.
100% he should be supported he does excellent work
They have a heater being released at the same time as I’ve got one on pre order
That was unknown info to me at the time!
You're the first reviewer I've seen showing that you can have more than four test models on the build plate. That make the feature even better. I expect you (or someone else) could design a better build plate that is more standard. I've got a Saturn 4 Ultra myself and may take on that challenge. I'll try printing it with carbon fiber reinforced PET and if that's not strong enough I'll have some parts fabricated by PCB Way.
In all honesty it was a complete fluke that I found that feature lol I was thinking of taking the gktwo plate and seeing if it fit on it as a test
For those of us that don't live in frozen hell-scapes the lack of a heater isn't a thing. Also I've gotten very little resin between the plate and base. It will alert you if you don't have enough resin so maybe don't overfill the tank? Just my thoughts. That knight looks amazing!
Thanks brother! That must be nice not to deal with the cold lol
Banging tunes, candid opinions and experiences, and solid views! Nicely done.
Thanks brother! 😁
I can't believe that happened at the end! Great job brother!
Thanks brother!
I was looking at this printer but in the end went with the M7 for all the reasons you pointed out. M7 is so fast it blew my mind. defiantly made the right choice.
Just seen fauxhammers video today! That vat looks interesting indeed
Well that makes me happy, I just bought 4 m7s
yes, fermentation belt to keep resin warm! been using one for over a year and made me able to print over the new england winter
Mine came in clutch during the winter! You probably get slightly colder temps than us to be honest!
I love print and paint videos like this, also a good way to find cool models 😉
Thanks brother!
Very amazing!!!
I love knights so much!!!! More please 😊
Excellent to hear brother!
Thanks for a great and honest review. Fun video.🎉
I've been looking all over for the castigator and just can't find it
If your open to proxy models that aren't based on a certain company then this is a great option!
Always enjoy a Knight video. Always perma jelly of you 3D printer owners XD
There's just something so cool about knights
Hmmm already have an Elegoo saturn 8k and been thinking of buying a new printer for bigger projects. This seems to be the one i want.
It's fast and great quality prints so you wont be disappointed by that part of it!
Crazy Twist at the end, love it
I’ve watched all your videos and there is no way that happened at the end!
Ninjon and Squidmar cameo to let you body paint them as a Warhammer model is just obscene.
😂😂😂😂 These are cracking me up lol 😂😂
Watching this while changing a FEP. :D Awesome work and very inspiring.
I've got an Anycubic X2. Waiting for the next big leap to jump on a new printer. The X2 is going pretty wel...... let me get back to you after changing the FEP... haha
Thanks for the vid!
Ah the one job we all hate the most. God speed brother may your fep be forever clean
That's a really cool proxy
It's bloody awesome!
Mannn now I have no excuse but to paint my own Lancer proxy, and now I have to do it quickly 😂
Take your time and enjoy the journey brother 😁
@@battlebrothersam Sister* and i definitely will!!
Good model 😀😀😀 Well done
Thanks brother
You need to buy a spray can of superglue activator. I use it for every model. It speeds up the process and makes the bond even stronger.
I think I will because the baking powder leaves unwanted texture on models like this! Its fine for my nurgle models but not so much for these
Just preorderdd the saturn 4 ultra. I've been trying to find out about the 2x speed but not 1 person has really timed it
If I had access to a saturn 3 I would've tested it
The Saturn 4 ultra actually does EIGHT calibrations tests at once. You have to click the tab but there is an option for 8 settings at once
I can't believe that happened at the end
Legend!
@@battlebrothersam gotta do wat me commisar says dun'i
I can't believe that happened in the end!
Legend!
I absolutely can’t believe that happened in the end
Legend!
I agree with you on the "auto leveling"
Hello mate, excellent print. Are you able to share with me your settings? I'm really struggling with printing anything big. Did you change any of the wait times? What was your exposure?
I can't believe that happened at the end!
Legend
Woot! I am the 100th person to like this video!
Which it's an amazing video and hope you do more awesome printing miniatures!
🥳 Thanks brother!
Im hoping with the Mercury XS station ill be able to just wash the whole print AND build plate at the same time
I'm not sure on the size of that one but hopefully you can!
Wow ! I can't believe that happened at the end ! I know you are not a review chanel but I'm looking for a large 3D printer to upgrade from my 2020 Saturn, is the 8K S a good printer? Or should I go with the Jupiter SE?
dat ending
Legend
Do you think the seperate heater will still reasonably work if the lid / hinge is taken off?
I mean, painting would be the difficult part of the equation. Printing a knight on a Saturn 4 Ultra? Handful of hours, no problem
How has your heating band held up? I am trying out a heat pad meant for reptile enclosures. It will be a funny setup but I'm interested to see if yours holds up with the weird tilts.
It held up fine to be honest! The shape of the vat meant I couldn't have it entirely flush but it stayed on no problem
@@battlebrothersamany update on if you still have it on and still works well? Would rather have this than the mini heater that blocks the exhaust hole
I can't believe that happened at the end
There is a drip clip that you can 3D print that’s very convenient 🧐.
i cannot believe that happened at the end!
Love the videos! Keep them coming!
Awesome work what’s the link for the band I’d love to try it too
Thanks for reminding me! amzn.to/4ep1gai
I just realised the fan heater is no longer available 😔
Would love to know how to make that black and brown oil wash
I have owned a S4U for a few months now. I HALF agree about the clunky build plate unit, BUT once you set up an intelligent/optimal workflow with it you do not even notice or care about its more complex shapes than a typical build plate! I clean mine in equal time, and just a fraction less ease, than other 'normal build plate' printers I have.
Firstly, DO NOT use the supplied bib - it is a waste of time and ADDS more cleaning/wasted time! Use a large baking tray to feed under the build plate, over the vat, to remove it all. You are going to use that tray for removal, of parts from the build plate and cleaning them etc anyway, so cleaning that tray was always going to be done anyway. No bib to clean 'extra', as well then....
Cleaning the top of the build plate, with a brush, over a tub of IPA or Metho, is no different than cleaning the top of any other build plate really.... thus the grand total effort is near dead equal to ANY other build plate!
On another note - a Wash Station method of cleaning is a complete waste of time, and a poor result also!! Just use a 'large' tub, say 15litre, just half full, of IPA or metho, and either hand 'swish' parts, and/or brush them. It can all be done in a FRACTION of the time you run a wash station. Also, a wash station stirs up all the bottom dwelling gunge into a cesspool of crud to wash your items! It is exactly like you were going to take a bath yourself but did a crap in it FIRST...... lol. A tub and hand washing does NOT do that - it does not stir up prior bottom dwelling crud - thus the items come out cleaner just from that single wash process. No need for a second 'rinse' step either (but it can't hurt if you want to be "perfect").
All in all a wash station is a waste of MONEY - a notable amount of money. For pretty well ZERO gain, plus some added negatives!
But your drying/curing station is a BIG POSITIVE to have and use. Though you can do it via a much cheaper set up (home made). One issue with both wash stations (even though they are useless!) and curing stations is the SIZE. You can make a home made HUGE station for a fraction of the cost of a bought one! And thus fit ALL items in, for drying and curing.
As for a heater - well I have no need for one where I print. BUT I do have 'mini heaters' in most of the printers here. You can buy 'no name' mini heaters from AliExpress for about usd$25 and they work PERFECTLY FINE - as good as any manufacturers in built, or supplied heater. Mine take about 8 mins to get the enclosure to 30degC (from about an 18degC room temp). They are quite powerful and easily bring the temp up FAST. And you only need about 20degC or so for prints to be perfectly fine anyway, thus why I rarely even turn the heaters on anyway! I THOUGHT maybe running 30degC as a standard would be a good idea and outcome, but it was a zero benefit end result as it turns out - thus a 'waste' of that 8 minutes heating time anyway! Mind you I would start the heaters ahead of time anyway (but not setup to be on at all times the printer is powered on!), thus it was really a zero time waste for when I go to print. It was more a waste of ENERGY having them on, for the zero benefit in my typical room temperature case.
(I have seen the Anycubic Mini Heater on sales for as low as usd$15 too!! That is a very good little heater also.)
I get to use and see almost all printers (well a lot anyway) and NO OTHER comes close the the Saturn 4 Ultra as of the current models!! It is SUPER FAST, with no downsides to that. Basically just over twice the speed of all other 'fast' printers! It is a game changer - the next generation in the evolution of resin printing!!!
I HIGHLY recommend it as the best resin printer to buy in 2024 (so far still) !!!! It also has ZERO issues or negatives!
Well that was strange. I have never seen a printer with a vat that moves instead of the build plate. It probably does have some advantages over the normal design although I don't know what those advantages are. Maybe that's how it can print so fast?
Do you know if it it's a decent idea to have the saturn 4 ultra on my bedroom if I use a fume extractor like yours + I have the printer inside a still air glove box?.
I would like the toxicity to be close to 0% as I would be spending a lot of time in the bedroom
My idea is to have everything on the Glove Box (Printer + cure/wash station + Tools)
I can't believe that happened at the end.
I really can not believe what happened at the end!! 😮😮😮😮 😅😅😅😅
Print time is slower compared to Saturn 3. I have yet to find settings in the 4 that can match the use of rapid resin on the 3
im currently overthinking to also start a yt channel, you are my 100% idol in this case.
cause of you i got printers, cause of you i started a small business and somehow i feel like i would like to put my own journey on camera.
thank you.
Go for it brother! Don't think just do it 😁
I've got this printer on preorder and it cant get hear quick enough
It's fast and great quality prints brother so you wont be disappointed! just didn't suit my unique situation
1:25 Whu.. waht? What the hell? The VAT moves up and down? What the heck am I looking at here?
The Vat tilts to more easily release the print off the FEP film. Easier to peel something from the side than to pull straight up.
*eleego will remember that*
The plate looks annoying to clean. Print faster, spend more time cleaning up 🤔
Summed up my thoughts exactly
put something underneath the printer to tilt it before removing the bed ...et voila autocleaning of the plate
Hey sam love your videos i just wanted to ask is there a place here in NI where i can dispose of my used methylated spirit? I called my local council and havent gotten a word back from them.
Thanks mate! Shoot down to your local dump and see if there's a bit for hazardous waste (I don't think that's what it's called exactly but I can't remember right now) if not it'll be easier to ask the boys there where you can dispose of it
Also once I'm done with mine I pour it back into the empty bottles that I keep and leave it outside in the sun to evaporate and cure, in winter I let it evaporate and then cure the remnants in the bottle in the curing station
I can't believe that happened at the end!
That badger came out of nowhere!
😂😂😂😂😂 Legend
I did it on the mars 3 , So the Ultra 4 should eat it up
what about us that don't need a heater why should i have to foot another 100 dollars when there are things like the band if you need it?
I just brought a saturn 4 ultra and so far the experience has been terrible and i haven't even received it yet. Seems like this weird build plate has everyone annoyed... like does it really need to be that bulky...im 6'6 with huge hands and im worried hiw im going to clean between it.
I am running a resin print farm with 20 saturn 4 the cleaning of the build plate is nothing easy as with a system 8s way quicker then leveling. Best
Printer ever machines are running 24 7 and 1 or 2 half faliures.
What happened at the end? 😂
I cant believe that happened either!!!
I'm a big fan of this creator. He has a whole range of knight-sized titans, many of them inspired by mecha from other IPs such as Robotech/Macross or Gundam, but heavily reimagined to make them fit perfectly alongside other gridark mecha.
Unfortunately his Patron is currently on hiatus, but hopefully one day he'll return to doing mechs again.
Very kind words. Thanks! First draft is almost done on the novel. Once that is in the can, I will start pushing around electrons again!
Best,
JBR
My experience with printer has been a massive amount of failures. After messing with times for resins, and running slow and fast it fails more times than not. It has really been a waste of money.
babe, wake up, Arch Magos Sam just posted.
Legend
Can you? Yes. Should you? Yes. And so many other tabletop desires.
All easy questions to answer brother lol
yay
Print from SOLWYTE STUDIO
Soon brother... Soon
@@battlebrothersam looking forward to that
cool
First time comment, I loved your painting guide but struggled to find the link for the Gold recipe from Legendary (fcy fee - subtitles). Your Scottish accent confused me!! Only Joking (Sry I am an old fart with bad hearing) Kind regards Anwar
Here you go brother ruclips.net/video/26_1W7zR-cA/видео.htmlsi=oG9SY8k-gt68zqgY
@@battlebrothersam Thanks matey great link and I hope to try the gold out soon. Kind Regards Anwar
Can somebody pls help me im now a RUclips member where do i get the acces to the discord?
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The build plate design sucks (although the release is nice), the AI camera is pointless as you can only see one side of your print, I could care less about a heater but I know that matters to a lot of people.…I’ll take the Saturn Ultra 3 over the 4 any day.
You can literally buy a heater as an addon to the printer.
So those who dont need it save money.
Build plate is messy, but with a flex plate or just some discipline in your cleaning process, it's easy to avoid.
Rubbish critique points.
Get a flex plate and your messy problems are solved. You can just remove the flex plate from the original when the print is done. You never need to take off the original plate.
yeah, I dont' like the plate neither
Drops to many features for me really sad
I think your wrong about including the heater. Not everyone needs it. Brings down the cost for consumers. Also the heater they are selling blows the heat in the wrong direction.
I can't believe that happened at the end!