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I'm thinking that most people are not understanding that it took 6 hours to open the safe so as to not damage it beyond using it again. I'm guessing that it wouldn't take 6 hours to get into it.
Thanks for sharing!! I can't believe someone closed the door while the concrete was curing!!! n00b move for sure, likely the new guy on the framing crew.
It was planned but just hadn't been done yet. The house was still in the framing stage so he shut the door while that was being done. Unfortunately, it only took about 2 days for the problem to develop. He's going to have full HVAC in the room when done.
Question @ 3:08, why does Graffunder not make the door from the start out of this "material" that's supposed to be stronger than the original steel was in the first place?
Good question. The stuff he uses is like an epoxy putty with carbide in it that just fills the hole where he drilled. I doubt it would have the structural integrity of steel but is harder to drill.
you said it happened from when they poured the concrete, so does that mean if they left the door open while the concrete set it would of been fine or does a room like this need permanent vents of some sort, even after concrete is set?
So in terms of cracking this, how hard is this to do? I know Graffunder claims to be secure but this almost seemed to easy. I reckon your only showing the end... I thought they built the doors all being unique making it way harder than drilling right here and you're in. Also moving forward is this door basically junk now? you mention some sort of filler material for the hole what is that stuff called? how could it be stronger than the door? any idea how thick the walls are?
They are very hard to crack. This took about 6 hours with a guy who really knows his stuff. If you would've seen the tools and tricks, you wouldn't have any concern. Yes, Graffunder does move things around to prevent "standard" safecrackers and locksmiths from opening it by coming in through he sides or top. Luckily, Mark isn't "standard"! For comparison, Mark, can professionally open a standard, production gun safe in under 30 minutes where it'd take others hours of "exploratory surgery" so to speak and a bunch of big holes and the safe is then generally ruined. As for the door, it's fine and completely functional. The filler is a carbide laden epoxy and super hard burred plugs that can only be driven in one direction. The new lock has different drill points so the old hole wouldn't get you anywhere anyway.The walls were around 14 inches if I remember correctly. Forgive me if this video made it look easy. Yes, in this case, he did open it with just one small hole, but the video doesn't show the variety and number of specialty, expensive drill bits that he went through nor the insane amount of measuring and remeasuring he preformed. I can assure you it was not at all easy.
Well if you where astute in watching and listening the video, you would have heard pretty much all of your answers in the video. Instead of of wasting peoples time by asking them to explain for you what was already explained. IDIOTS!
@@Nate-cw7of By the way no mention about the new lock has different drill points making the hole useless in the future in the video..or the one way plugs. so I learned something.
See Safecracker book by Dave McOmie, alot of good info in there if you want a deeper dive. It's an engaging read, I'm sure other professionals have good stuff as well.
Just to be clear here there are a whole lot more than 6 safe techs capable of opening this safe. Yes a decent safe but there are many that are even more difficult.
Do you find this an argument to go with mech dial in lieu of electronic (me being a bit lo-tech and stubbornly old fashioned; but willing to change some!)? Also, I notice Graff (or Sage) has a down website saying they have a new one coming. Are they still around? I noticed that website of nice people in Haleyville, AL didn't have Graff listed as they used to (though I haven't visited their site in years). Changing subjects but staying with Graff safes, like so many things these days, any chance their assembly process has been effected by damned virus and reaction thereto, so that quality of safes hurt. It's a coincidence I ask you this as your trying to get inside one of them. Truth is, I've toyed with yrs with getting one and I'm getting closer. I heard from a car dealer that he had concerns, for instance, about quality of otherwise reliable model truck they sell, given slow-downs on assembly lines; workers, foremen sitting out; chips and other parts slowing down or coming in sporadically. Just curious. Thx.
Watching this sealed the deal for me, mechanical dials dont fail. No e locks for me.
Agreed.
That was my first thought too. Maybe have both, but at a minimum have a mechanical dial.
Say that to fist full of compound c4
I'm thinking that most people are not understanding that it took 6 hours to open the safe so as to not damage it beyond using it again. I'm guessing that it wouldn't take 6 hours to get into it.
Thanks for sharing!! I can't believe someone closed the door while the concrete was curing!!! n00b move for sure, likely the new guy on the framing crew.
Yeah who designed that dang safe room 😂, a small ventilation hole is a must for a safe room if you ever want to go inside it without suffocating.
It was planned but just hadn't been done yet. The house was still in the framing stage so he shut the door while that was being done. Unfortunately, it only took about 2 days for the problem to develop. He's going to have full HVAC in the room when done.
@@parkerssafes taking note.
This is really interesting. God bless from Australia :)
And may God bless you Malcom.
Question @ 3:08, why does Graffunder not make the door from the start out of this "material" that's supposed to be stronger than the original steel was in the first place?
Good question. The stuff he uses is like an epoxy putty with carbide in it that just fills the hole where he drilled. I doubt it would have the structural integrity of steel but is harder to drill.
That Mark dude 1 of 6 is a VID (Very important dude) much respect to him, and his craft.
you said it happened from when they poured the concrete, so does that mean if they left the door open while the concrete set it would of been fine or does a room like this need permanent vents of some sort, even after concrete is set?
I'd say it would have helped a lot and probably would let enough air in to remedy that problem.
There are more than 6 in the country that could have gotten it open
Great safes..I own one! I'm ONE of the "guys" that can open these too! What did you replace it with?
I don't recall which model he replaced it with.
Audio on my end was terrible. just wondering if he got past a glass plate relocker working on the lock???
No glass on a Graffunder. He got through the ball bearings though.
Unless this safe door is in the basement of a mall that's close for Christmas day 6 hours to get in is probably more than enough to keep thieves out.
So in terms of cracking this, how hard is this to do? I know Graffunder claims to be secure but this almost seemed to easy. I reckon your only showing the end... I thought they built the doors all being unique making it way harder than drilling right here and you're in.
Also moving forward is this door basically junk now? you mention some sort of filler material for the hole what is that stuff called? how could it be stronger than the door?
any idea how thick the walls are?
They are very hard to crack. This took about 6 hours with a guy who really knows his stuff. If you would've seen the tools and tricks, you wouldn't have any concern. Yes, Graffunder does move things around to prevent "standard" safecrackers and locksmiths from opening it by coming in through he sides or top. Luckily, Mark isn't "standard"! For comparison, Mark, can professionally open a standard, production gun safe in under 30 minutes where it'd take others hours of "exploratory surgery" so to speak and a bunch of big holes and the safe is then generally ruined. As for the door, it's fine and completely functional. The filler is a carbide laden epoxy and super hard burred plugs that can only be driven in one direction. The new lock has different drill points so the old hole wouldn't get you anywhere anyway.The walls were around 14 inches if I remember correctly. Forgive me if this video made it look easy. Yes, in this case, he did open it with just one small hole, but the video doesn't show the variety and number of specialty, expensive drill bits that he went through nor the insane amount of measuring and remeasuring he preformed. I can assure you it was not at all easy.
@@parkerssafes I agree it appeared easy to a novice this door is very well made..
Well if you where astute in watching and listening the video, you would have heard pretty much all of your answers in the video. Instead of of wasting peoples time by asking them to explain for you what was already explained. IDIOTS!
@@Nate-cw7of By the way no mention about the new lock has different drill points making the hole useless in the future in the video..or the one way plugs. so I learned something.
See Safecracker book by Dave McOmie, alot of good info in there if you want a deeper dive. It's an engaging read, I'm sure other professionals have good stuff as well.
Electronic locks are about as intelligent as an electronic gun. What could go wrong?
Just to be clear here there are a whole lot more than 6 safe techs capable of opening this safe. Yes a decent safe but there are many that are even more difficult.
Cool
Do you find this an argument to go with mech dial in lieu of electronic (me being a bit lo-tech and stubbornly old fashioned; but willing to change some!)?
Also, I notice Graff (or Sage) has a down website saying they have a new one coming. Are they still around? I noticed that website of nice people in Haleyville, AL didn't have Graff listed as they used to (though I haven't visited their site in years).
Changing subjects but staying with Graff safes, like so many things these days, any chance their assembly process has been effected by damned virus and reaction thereto, so that quality of safes hurt. It's a coincidence I ask you this as your trying to get inside one of them. Truth is, I've toyed with yrs with getting one and I'm getting closer. I heard from a car dealer that he had concerns, for instance, about quality of otherwise reliable model truck they sell, given slow-downs on assembly lines; workers, foremen sitting out; chips and other parts slowing down or coming in sporadically. Just curious. Thx.
That situation wasn't the locks fault at all but still wouldn't have happened with a mechanical lock.
Some C4 compound explosives would do the trick
True. I'm fresh out. If you could run some by that would be great.
Absolutely no reason for a quality safe to have these cheap electronic locks a quality mechanical lock will last indefinitely
Well sir, some folks just can't manipulate a dial lock due to physical restrictions. This wasn't a cheap lock but it wasn't waterproof.
Was going to buy a graffunder. Not now thank you
I know right? It only took a professional 6 hours to open it. Who would want something that secure?
That’s why mechanical dial locks are king.