I really like both models. Excellent I don't like it when people compare materials to other safes/vaults and don't thoroughly explain what the competitors materials exactly are. It's slightly misleading.
That Graffunder is awesome, but I'm not rich. I was fortunate enough to find a used Inkas TL15 out of a closed business. It doesn't have a hole so I have to use battery powered lights and dehumidifier. If I hadn't lucked up on it I probably would have gone with an AmSec. Of course if you need to protect less than $15k you can always go with a Liberty.
I want a castle series so much but am also not able to afford it. Do you think the castle is 2x as good as this one? Should i keep saving or just get bfx?
Mr. Aaron, does the Amsec BF or BF II come with any kind of dehumidifier or electric panel (on the inside) ? It seems a dehumidifier, or a way to "hook up" a dehumidifier, is a must, especially if the safe sits in a cold basement. Thank, you, sir.
Hello Mr. Parker the BF two hard plate is not 1/2 solid hardplate. Actually its better then that its called Amsecs Active hardplate. What that means is that it is pressure sensitive when someone drills it it sets off avtive relockers. Its almost same as glass relocker!
@Boo Ya Sure, but there is a world of difference between drylite which can easily be poked out with a screwdriver and concrete used as a barrier which is very strong and actually adds burglary resistance.
It doesn't matter if you call it concrete, A) there are different formulations and uses of concrete and B) Amsec nor anyone else is advertising the drylight fill as a barrier to break-in. In the modern era, if you want a safe that CAN NOT be broken into then you will want take the money you would have thrown into buying a heavier safe and put it into a really nice alarm/security system with fast security/police response.
Steel is expensive, American labor is expensive, if you want a ton of steel assembled into a box by American workers it's going to be expensive. Many buy too much safe than what they really need. You have to weigh the value of what you actually have in the safe vs the cost of the safe and the realistic odds that someone is going to rob your safe. If your safe costs more than the valuables you keep in it, you're doing it wrong.
The BF II tolerance looks much tighter.
I really like both models. Excellent
I don't like it when people compare materials to other safes/vaults and don't thoroughly explain what the competitors materials exactly are. It's slightly misleading.
Beautiful safe!
That Graffunder is awesome, but I'm not rich. I was fortunate enough to find a used Inkas TL15 out of a closed business. It doesn't have a hole so I have to use battery powered lights and dehumidifier. If I hadn't lucked up on it I probably would have gone with an AmSec. Of course if you need to protect less than $15k you can always go with a Liberty.
I want a castle series so much but am also not able to afford it. Do you think the castle is 2x as good as this one? Should i keep saving or just get bfx?
Photos of the boltwork are freely available on the internet provided by Amsec themselves even.
I think the BF ll is the way to go much more robust.
Mr. Aaron, does the Amsec BF or BF II come with any kind of dehumidifier or electric panel (on the inside) ? It seems a dehumidifier, or a way to "hook up" a dehumidifier, is a must, especially if the safe sits in a cold basement. Thank, you, sir.
Yes sir! Both come with an electrical outlet and led lighting.
Hello Mr. Parker the BF two hard plate is not 1/2 solid hardplate. Actually its better then that its called Amsecs Active hardplate. What that means is that it is pressure sensitive when someone drills it it sets off avtive relockers. Its almost same as glass relocker!
What does the BF2 upgrade package include? I don't understand which inner or outer steel this package is upgrading.
The steel is the same, the upgrade packages would include things like a dehumidifier, jewelry drawer, etc.
How much does the smaller bronze color one go for?
Around $3,000
Stop calling DryLight concrete. They're not even remotely close. On another note, those Graffunder safes are sexy AF!
DryLight isn't a flowfill concrete mix?
He did mention the differences, it’s way faster to say concrete vs Drylight every single time.
@Boo Ya Sure, but there is a world of difference between drylite which can easily be poked out with a screwdriver and concrete used as a barrier which is very strong and actually adds burglary resistance.
It doesn't matter if you call it concrete, A) there are different formulations and uses of concrete and B) Amsec nor anyone else is advertising the drylight fill as a barrier to break-in. In the modern era, if you want a safe that CAN NOT be broken into then you will want take the money you would have thrown into buying a heavier safe and put it into a really nice alarm/security system with fast security/police response.
These safes are overpriced
There are cheaper safes out there.
Steel is expensive, American labor is expensive, if you want a ton of steel assembled into a box by American workers it's going to be expensive. Many buy too much safe than what they really need. You have to weigh the value of what you actually have in the safe vs the cost of the safe and the realistic odds that someone is going to rob your safe. If your safe costs more than the valuables you keep in it, you're doing it wrong.