Will The Bosch Power Tools X-Lock Grinder Tool-Free Interface Take Over As The Industry Standard
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- Опубликовано: 13 янв 2020
- Bosch Power Tool's new X-Lock angle grinder lock interface makes wheel exchanges incredibly fast and simple!
Bosch holds this as the ultimate changing system for grinders, the Bosch X-Lock grinder interface ejects wheels with just a lever pull, and fresh wheels can be attached without the need for any other tools. The X-Lock grinding wheels are also compatible with grinders that have standard 7/8″ mounts.
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There is no doubt that the new Bosch X-Lock interface works. Wheel changes are fast, efficient and secure. We cannot argue that this is a serious upgrade from the current interface we all use. The question is will all the other manufacturers start to offer this?
In order for the Bosch Power Tool's X-Lock interface to live, it must become the new norm for all the manufacturers, not just Bosch. Aftermarket consumable makers must also see this as the only way to make new products. Premiums for this interface must remain small.
Will other companies license this from Bosch Power Tools? What strategy do they have in place for the X-Lock to take over?
There are a lot of questions that will be answered in the next year as we see where this new interface takes us. Let us know what you think in the comments! 
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From a contractors perspective I love the idea. Cutting rebar and such I've spent more time replacing wheels than cutting. I'm also alyways at a jobsite, not in a shop, so I don't just have a fleet of grinders at my disposal, and I do switch different wheels on and off frequently. X lock would be a huge time saver for me.
I told my boss about this and they immediately ordered some of these grinders for work.
Reduces down time, easy choice.
You see swaping disks a major downtime? my god, what a horrible place to work. Like a hamster on a wheel, you get to catch a breath when you drop down dead.
@@risto9991 Swapping discs at work costs ME money too - its why I have 3 grinders sitting on my bench.
I bought the Bosch X-Lock. I love it, mine is the 18v cordless model. You no longer have to carry the special tool with you to change out disk. I noticed that you put the conventional disk on by hand. also the old style wire wheel has a nut to lock it on, you don't need that anymore. It's quick and easy for all wheels.
I waste so much time swapping discs and looking for the wrench, this is ideal for me I will be buying one asap.
I just got a Makita grinder and didn't realize it had this system. After playing with it a bit I like this system so much better than using an open end or a pin wrench to change accessories that I'm keeping it. A quick search shows Diablo makes accessories so I'm not too panicked over the cost of consumables.
Looks like a great idea. That said I’m not gonna replace my Milwaukee grinder unless it dies. I hope it does catch on.
Great review !
Like everything, if Bosh hurts sales of other companies then the other companies will adapt or pay Bosch. If not, no change. There’s a lot of grinders out there and discs. Can’t see many running out to change. Maybe when the older ones die, you can upgrade. I keep 4 grinders with different set ups.
Great channel, solid reviews. 👍🇺🇸
You have great points
It's handy but corded grinders are cheap enough I can have one for every style disc I use and only worry about swapping when it's worn out.
Absolutely right and harbor freight grinders are even cheaper
Corded per told are getting harder to get though.
Some too shops I got don't even have corded power tools all cordless stuff
There is no question that this will take off if other disc and grinder companies start to license the feature from Bosch. Especially since the X-lock wheels are backwards compatible with older grinders. The only downside is that older wheels are not backwards compatible to X-lock. So if you are just a DIYer with a decent supply of discs of various types and decide to buy a new X-lock grinder, you would need to buy all new discs.
I know Diablo and Makita make the X-lock accessories, maybe there are others, homedepot and Lowe's gotten
Thanks for the info. Ordered a makita not knowing it had this lock until after. Given it won’t be a high usage tool for me, I may return unless I can find cheap discs.
your right .im waiting to see what the blade co. do
Looks like an awesome idea I like it . I think I would buy it just because I like tools and it looks quick and easy . But like you say will it be excepted ? At this point I have multiple grinders for different appalcations . So I don't buy top of the line grinders because i don't use just one grinder . Love your channel !!👍😊 . Have bought tools that you have reviewed that I otherwise wouldn't have known about . Thanks and keep up the good work !!
just picked up one of those grinders today so i hope it catches on otherwise it will be a brick. I am fairly confident that it will given how easy the changes are. I hope the mechanism survives the construction site
Which grinders survive construcyion sites the best?
@@zylent8251 Fein
X-lock is the future. Tool less disc change is the key (pun intended).
This is why i have multiples of grinders for different attachments
It better stick!!! It would be ridiculous if it didn't. Being stuck in the mud with old tech is frustrating. Why do we buy several cheap grinders? Because we don't want to change discs, wheels and pads that takes too much time. I would definitely buy a $300 six inch Metabo if I could swap out discs that fast. Great video, thanks for keeping us thinking and talking about tools‼️
How does Bosch push other companies into putting this on their product? If you wanted a $300 Bosch Grinder, you would be good. :) .... But....
@@WorkshopAddict they already convinced Makita, probably the biggest powertool maker worldwide.
Is there ANY way to use a standard grinding wheel on an X-lock grinder? Have bex X-lock and hate to throw away standard discs. Is there an adapter????
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Hmmmm. I'm wonder if this will go the way of the Bosch introduced T-lock blades for jigsaws Or maybe it will disappear like the Bosch SDS-plus, or SDS-max hammer drill interface. Or how about that star-lock oscillating saw interface that both Fein and Bosch teamed up to impose on the market? You never see those around. If past is prologue, and let's hope that it is, they'll be everywhere. Unward and upward. Better. Better. Best.
SDS has disappeared? I haven't noticed.
I do realize my experience is limited as I'm merely a 31 years old DIYer/home improver and first time I've ever used a power hammer was 15 years ago (it was a rental Makita 5kg class, with SDS max interface).
But as for rotory/breaking/combi hammers, apart from very large demolition hammers (15kg class and above, where hex shaft is the norm), all I've ever seen in shops, or in hands of other people, or used myself, was either SDS plus (2 to 5 kg class) or SDS max (5 kg class and bigger). I don't think I've ever seen any non SDS machine (in that class) or accessory in my life. In fact, the first time I've even heard of something other than SDS - a spline drive - was from Brian here... briefly mentioning it in his video... which was about the SDS system. Ironic.
As for starlock, it's much younger than SDS, but apart from Bosch and Fein, Festool also adopted it, and now, only recently, Makita went on board with Starlock as well. And I think more will follow suit.
@@marsdeimos4301 I think he was being sarcastic. All those quickchange connectors were objectively better and user friendly and were quickly adopted by competitors. Makita has already adopted X-Lock on several of their grinders. Bosch and Makita probably cover more than half of the powertool market here in Europe, so I'm sure X-Lock will stay around. The US is a bit different, so there the success will depend on DeWalt and Milwaukee. Fortunately for the rest of the world, a standard can be a success without taking over the US by storm (although that would help massively of course).
Have the 4 pole grinder and now the brushless x lock one. Love the X lock more. Not getting rid of the 4 pole though. Made in 🇩🇪 vs China
Hey Brian Thanks for the video! Do you know if they offer the X-Lock on their newer cordless grinders?
Yes, it is offered on most of the new 18 volt line.
Yes, both Bosch and Makita
Great Video as always ...
Xlock is great but how does the Makita hold up to the Dewalt power detect grinder???? Not really concerned with how fast I can switch a cutting wheel as much as what is a better grinder. Please do a comparison vid thanks.
Try the new Bosch BiTurbo grinder if you want comparable power and superior safety features. Not sure if it's available in the US though. Bosch seems to see that market as an afterthought unfortunately...
Makita has this x lock from Bosch. You can check on their website
@WorkshopAddict Which brand is best in your optinion for angle grinders and with which ones you have best experience?
For battery that is affordable... #1 is Dewalt, IMHO... #2 is Milwauke and Metabo HPT
@@WorkshopAddict and for durability, i guess Metabo.Please feature FEIN grinders in your channel. 🙂
Metabo rocks, but not affordable for most.
Germany tools the best quality and strong tools 💪💪💪😍😍😍
I'd love it if it was on the Milwaukee m18 fuel grinder and was the same price but like u I don't see it going far
Can you use regular discs in the xlock?
no
Think about it
I love it, but I use mostly cut-off discs. I hope they come out with the 5" instead of just 4 1/2 discs. :( I need that extra reach.
Eh I've had my 5" 18v for almost 3 years now.
I like it but affordable
Not for average budget ?
I put in links to them in the description. Some products are priced in line and others are slightly expensive.
I run 5 Makita grinders. 2 full speed 2 variable speed 1 heavy duty rat tail. All plug in ready to go hanging on a stand. I know this is ok in the shop but I take at least 2 when I go on site. Now run cordless also. The reason I started this is. These are not top end expensive, I have never burned one up because they get a rest when the other grinder is being used. They are over 5 years old, some are on the 3rd sets of brushes. I swap grinder instead of the disc. Also I buy the cheapest consumables I can get regardless of brand. Very little difference between $1 zip disc and $6. Fabricator for 40 years.
I should add l'm also a employer. Supply all tools and consumables to my workers. We do a lot of grinding and polishing.
The SDS PLUS convert to the standard
So, ordinary discs do not fit x-lock grinder?
I think so
I dont think its the exact future but its where we are headed. But if bosch wants this to succeed they need to get a company like metabo to adopt it. and seeing as how they havent jumped on it already it could be a bad sign.
And Makita did
Brian, I tell you why this isn't going to be a "Big" thing imho. The Consumables, Grinding Wheels, Cutoff Wheels, etc is way too much money for the X Locks. I am a Welder/Fabricator, and I use Premium brand Consumables such as Pferd mostly, as well as Walter Abrasives, and Weiler. Even with using these Top Shelf Consumables, they are way cheaper than the Bosch X Locks. I buy them by the Case, which cuts the price down some, but even if I buy a "special disc" and only purchase 1 or 2, they are still cheaper than X Lock. I mean seriously, who in the world is gonna pay $6 bucks for a 4-1/2" cutoff disc??? That is Crazy! Maybe some DIY'er or Home Owner who doesn't know any better, and they probably only use a few of them per year may pay this price, but when you are using Grinders all day everyday, you can't be paying that much for something as simple as a cutoff disc. I go thru as many as 10 or more Cutoff Discs per day in the Shop, several times per week. I would say on the average busy week, I'm probably going thru at least 30, but sometimes as many as 40 - 50 cutoffs. 50 × 6 = $300.00, and we haven't even touched on Flap Dics, which is just about tied for the most used Consumable in a Welding/Fab Shop, and as you know Flap Discs are considerably more expensive than Cutoff Wheels.
I own 13 Grinders. All of my Corded Grinders are Metabo, my Cordless are a mixture of Metabo, Milwaukee, Dewalt. I have owned 1 Bosch, and it didn't survive 2 months. Bosch does make quality Tools though.
From my experience if you want a Grinder that can stand up to Industrial type abuse, day in, and day out, Metabo is the Grinder.
All of mine have the "quick change" feature that requires not Tool. You just spin the Nut off with your Fingers, and you can do this with Welding Gloves on. You can do this in about 15 - 20 seconds. Not all that much slower than the Bosch.
Milwaukee Cordless also have a "Tool less" change feature, although it is difficult to perform with Gloves on.
When you have an entire stable of Grinders, you just keep them all setup with every type of Consumable that you use.
Sorry for rambling on.
LOVE this comment. Thank you! I am surprised to see the Pferd makes all sorts of X-lock consumables. Here is one of them. amzn.to/2u316ne
This comment is now 4 months old, so maybe things have changed (I think you are in the US), but here in Germany the x lock discs cost basically the same (in some cases they are even cheaper: amazon.de/dp/B07PCJKX9S vs www.amazon.de/dp/B007PB1GSC ). Also makita has released its first x lock grinder: www.ffx.co.uk/tools/product/Makita-Dga519Z-0088381893510-18V-125Mm-Bl-Lxt-X-Lock-Angle-Grinder-Bare-Unit
So we will see what the future brings
@@DujiBuji Diablo has 5 per 9 dollars, I believe it is about the same than the regulars
Just bought a Bosch grinder from Lowe's for the school, not knowing that the X-Lock system even existed. Once we unboxed it to put it to use, we discovered this new system was incompatible with our existing inventory of discs. Went back to Lowe's today to get the proper discs. Lowe's does not carry the proper discs...😞
That sucks. Sorry. THD might have them. Amazon has them if you have prime.
I think Bosch will prevent this from catching on even if it is superior.
Also, X-lock won't matter at all unless Metabo and Makita start making X-lock tools because while I have a Bosch grinder at work, I REALLY prefer my Metabo.
Finally, you really should compare this to a Metabo grinder with the Quick nut. I've had a Metabo Quick grinder for the past DECADE and I really don't know why none of the other companies have copied it.
Hey Drew Morgan Makita already released photo's of new grinder's coming to market. Where they adapt the X-Lock system.
Here in Germany the prize off grinding / cunting disks is only a few cents more in comparison to normal disks. There are a increasingly more aftermarket company's like Diablo producing disks, brushes and wire wheels.
toolcraze.net/makita-joins-x-lock-with-new-18v-brushless-angle-grinder-dga519zx1-dga519rtj1/
Bosch invented the SDS-system for hammer drills, and everybody uses it these days.
Both Metabo and Makita will use x loc
Makita did.
Quicknut increases tool depth significantly. X-Lock is both safer, quicker and flatter.
Price of discs will be make or break for the tool
Nothing else
Have Bosch Makita Metabo taking it up.
It's not really the disks it's having all the grinders swap over to xloc
Much like most power tools are now suddenly cordless and getting corded tools is getting harder and harder to get.
Grinders are consumables only when you buy cheap garbage.. i run the low profile Metabo works great and has lasted through 4 cheap ones.... metabo grinders would have to adopt it.... Metabo are high dollar but you get what you pay for.
I like it because you are losing the pin spanner wrench all the time, not having that means less worries for me.
I have 6 grinders so I dont see the benefit of this x lock grinder or accessories when I can have a different blade in each
im sure bosch put alot of time research and thought into this design but when i look at it first thing i see is it getting jammed up with metal and concrete dust and binding someone forcing it opened until it breaks then its physical damage not covered under warranty, id hope bosch has this solved but if it becomes the standard cheaper companies will cut corners when the patent is up and id see 9/10 grinders dieing due to the release mechanism breaking off
That is one reason we did not do a video at WOC last year. They would not let us beat the unit up to see if it would fail. Since we have one, we ran it into metal and beat it on the ground and it was good so far, but time will tell.
People said the same about SDS jigsaw connectors and SDS Plus / Max hammer drill connectors.
@@macvos yeah but concrete bits last a long time and you switch them out alot back and forth, not to mention the sds designs dont really add significant cost
angle grinder disks dont last long at all and its more common then not for me to use up an entire disk the first time i put it on the grinder, rarely im a switching back and forth and back and forth if my workflow requires that ill grab two grinders... my main factors when looking at angle grinder consumables is cost and material quality.. things gotta be cheap and they cant fly apart in my face or disintegrate after 2 inches of cutting
Never seen this before. But recently I have converted all my 6 battery grinders to flip up nuts and this is pretty quick anyway. Good luck Bosch, even your SDS is on a slow take-up.
'Premium' is right- here they are five times the price.
The rest adopt? Not holding my breath.
Everyone waited for the Fein multi-tool patent to expire
And the Festool track saw.
What we need is an x-lock to normal adapter.
Not if it is proprietary.
I have never seen a Bosh tool in my line of work. 90% Metabo and Makita at sea. The last 10% is for speciality tools (Rigid super long pipe unblocker - “the rat remover” - for example). We use Metabo quick nuts and the Makita équivalent on grinders - so the time gain is not that huge.
It's not propriety. Bosch announced early on that it is opening up the license, a lá t-lock (jigsaws), SDS-Plus and SDS-Max (hammer drills).
Metabo and Makita have it.
i dont really see the appeal in it, i never have an issue with changing disks i own 7 grinders of different brands sizes styles and i usually just use one at a time and swap disks, can always just spin em on and off by hand only time i need a wrench is after a cutoff wheel binds up when a cut closes on it thatll tighten them on there good... 2 reasons i shy away from grinders is blade cost and dust in the shop so increasing blade cost isnt attractive to me, id pay more for a more convenient grinder but would want consumables to stay the same cost
i dont find grinders consumable, yet to burn one out i typically buy name brand and 12amp5" not the 6-7amp toys from harbourfreight, my favourite grinder also my first one must have 500+ hours use, the brushes are almost gone and bearings getting sloppy but its paid for itself 10fold and im not easy on them im the guy who leans on them to see how fast itll grind and how hot itll get,
even at the welding shop i was at last year they had all 5" makita rat tails and never seen one fail they were all a couple years old and ridden hard
I should have counted how many older Dewalt grinders we went through in 4 years.... Now they are good, but for a while, every time we used them, one took a crap.
@@WorkshopAddict only dewalt i have is a 9" 20amp unit that doesnt come out to play very often, got the 5" fuel grinder with a few 9.0ah packs so the rest of the fleet got a layoff, pull out a 12amp if i have to blend several feet off weld
@@AndrewBrowner I am going back a while... About 10 years. Battery power units were not out then.
Dewalt was the dogs bollocks for years. I worked in stand construction where we would get all new Dewalts every two years. Never had an issue, worked flawless, to the point where the company was talking of just buying the tools without a contract. Then we got a new batch, 2004ish and 3 out of 4 drills failed during their 1st job, Dewalt did not try to even to say sorry. Long story short, company is now with Hilti (last time I checked).
@@smellysam hilty is definitely reliable, but theyre reliably average idk if they have any cordless tools at the top of the pack, even their name brand cordless rotary/hammer drills are second to both dewalts and milwuakees, havent used too many a few used hiltis free from throw aways but the three options i see are milwuakee makita and ridgid if youre a professional id steer clear of ridgid no time to argue over warranties and if your into automotive makita isnt an option
Accessories seem to be slow coming.
It's a novelty at best. The only area I could see it being a "time saver" would be in a production environment. But in that case, it's more advantageous to just have two, or more grinders with different wheels and switch grinders.... Not wheels. I personally just don't see the justification for a premium price on a consumable like this when the grinders themselves are cheap enough to buy more than one.
Makita says you're wrong.
It's an objectively better connection. It's quicker, more resistant to user error and therefore safer and hardly more expensive in production. It would be a shame to stick with the old inferior connection, just because of initial higher pricing (early adopter premium). Nobody wants to manually lock a hammer drill bit instead of using SDS Plus/Max and nobody wants to use a screw to secure a jigsaw blade instead of SDS / T shank anymore. The same goes for grinders in my opinion. Go with the better connector and prices will come down automatically.
At first I thought about it that way I was like ok grinders are turning into iPhone with their different charging system but I remember at work when they were losing the nut for grinders and the back flange when they would put on specialty disks and it was a pain in the ass buying more. Yes people got their ass chewed plus we were working over night building bridges so we couldn't just go to a hardware store and buy one
ok so the thing has been out for a while, i cant see that its catching on, people aren't rushing to make x-lock consumables, i haven't seen anyone else using x-lock. also i can report that it does get jammed occasionally when the grining dust gets into the mechanism
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You can literally just use the leverage of the disk to break the arbor nut loose or tighten it. I see no advantage to this over a standard 7/8 disk.
Yup, you see me do it in the video
Some types of disc are prone to accelerated wear or even damage when doing that. Also, X-Lock provides much better protection against user error, increasing workspace safety.
It amazes me how many people depend on the tool to remove wheels. You know all you have to do is press the lock button, grip the disc and spin counter clockwise to loosen locknut and remove disk. Installation is the opposite. Ive been using this method with my Metabos and Bosch forever. Never once used a removal wrench. Are yall just new to griders or what?
If it costs more for cutting discs it wont take, all you need on job sites is a block of wood 🪵 to shock the old nut type off & thats if you havent bothered to purchase the flip lock quick rekease nut accesory 🤷🏼♂️.
The old style grinder still holds the full range use versatility interchangeable disc acceptance, push comes to shove if you come unstuck for cutting wheels on a building site they will be easier to find.
Plus any old 9" 12" worn down discs can be worn down then used in your 5" 6" grinder 115mm 4 1/2" inch grinders are useless for that reason, just my opinion 🤗.
Dont fall for it its another pay hike wall 🧱 lol.
If they really wanted to serve convenience they / them would include the quick release lock nuts as standard???
So they cut there costs by not having to thread 🔩 a mount point & nut connection then we all get pushed🫸 to premium discs that wont accept round connections on the new tools 😂🤣😭, mug us all off for disc prices 😙 you 🫵🏻 know it 🕵️ & i know it 🫠🙃🥴...