Vince, I have a Bosch X-Lock grinder and it's terrific! Another advantage is that you don't have to keep track of the lock rings and bushings that many standard grinders have when you use screw on wheels, they end up in the bottom of the tool box or lost. Translation; more lost time. Makita, as usual, has made a very smart move in adopting this tech, can't wait to see it with their new 40V platform!
Besides the ease of use, this would be the reason I get one. Most people love the fact that cordless makes it so much nicer because of not having to deal with plugging it in. This is the same kind of advancement just on the other end of the tool. There are some people who are just too hardheaded. I’m not a professional and that’s why it will probably be a while before I spend the money to get a new grinder.
You can buy it and buy an adapter and use your milwaukee batteries on it. I have a makita platform but I use a milwaukee one hand recip fuel m18 tool with my makita batteries no problem with adapter
I’m thinking same thing. I will wait for dewalt to use something like this. I can’t start with another battery platform when I have so much invested in dewalt already
Thank you from Mexico Vince, I have the same Dewalt and I’m always thought it has very fast changing wheel but since I met the x-lock sistem I had waiting it arrives to my country…it never happened but finally the same Makita you tested I found at Amazon and immediately bought it, I am waiting it arrives to me and will be happy. Another theme are the accessories, I learned a lot of them with your video, God Bless you
I bet these same people didn’t think keyless chucks were a time saver either. lol I like tools with no tool blade, bit, or whee changing for one reason: I keep misplacing the wrench or Alan key that comes with the tool and I wind up spending 10 minutes looking for it. Great fair review Vince as always.
I bought a Makita x lock cordless, I was worried because the first Makita cordless grinders where useless, but as I’ve got all makita tools I thought I would try the new X lock grinder… fantastic bit of kit doesn’t stop when you put pressure on it. Definitely recommend.
I have a dewalt one. I’m switching to that one Makita tool just for the convenience of switching disc fast. I use one for cutting conduit then need another to cut a box down I installed in the ground it saves me time and safer. I’m human and have forgotten to take the battery out. Felt grateful to still have fingers. Thanks for the video.
I got a pack of X lock cut-off disc a month ago, but didn't notice it was designed for quick swapping disc for a new tool! But thankfully it fit! Thanks for the video vince! Lol
Thank you for the new tool updates. When you were talking about the He man, I don’t need the wrenches to take off the cutting wheel on that DeWalt grinder, I got a laugh from that one. I didn’t think that I needed to wear gloves while using a cutoff wheel on my 4.5” grinder until it kicked backed & put cut on my finger, still have all of them but it could’ve been worse, now I wear gloves whenever I’m using power tools. Keep on doing what you do for all tool guys, full time users or part time users.
Today I was cutting some metal angles with thin cut disc, and had to switch to grinder wheel and back to thin cut disc again. And during the switching back and forth, I was telling myself that the disc changing is so freaking annoying. Also I hated to wait by holding the cut off tool until the disc stop spinning before taking my hand off it. From a safety side, the new brake is a good reason to change to this new tool. For me, I think these 2 features are very good reason to adopt to this setup. 👍
I've adopted early to the X lock grinders, unfortunately here in Australia the only option that I can find so far for discs are Bosch branded ones, hopefully the range will broaden in time.
For cordless x lock is awesome. As i only want to carry one grinder to site. In the shop where i have a corded grinder for each wheel i don’t necessarily see the need. But would still be nice to have.
im a roofer and have the dga519 5inch x lock and literally done hundreds of metres of chasing for lead work and general roofing absolute beast of a grinder super durable lasted 3 years and got totally abused, just ordered new 1
"Keep your hands off my trusty grinder!" 🤣🤣 Now, THAT'S priceless! Makita and Bosch ftw. Thank you, Vince, and God bless! 😁👍✌ P.S. oh, and Diablo discs. 💯
My question is how long will that X Lock last before it starts loosing tension and lock? Then you have a safety concern that you have to either fix or buy a new one. Am I right or missing something here? I’ve been looking at the Makita X Lock at TSC lately for $149 with accessories. Just haven’t decided to jump over yet as it’s a new deal.
Here in the uk x lock grinders are priced pretty much the same as ordinary grinders so, if you need a new grinder sure why not take advantage of newer technology, if you already have a grinder I wouldnt really buy just for that feature already owning that dewalt shown on the video. Nice video guys as always :)
I actually bought the new Bosch x lock Bluetooth all singing all dancing one before cancelling it and getting the standard one because I couldn't find an x lock mortar rake/chasing blade. It was a couple months ago though. Shame because the braking on x lock grinders are so much faster.
Not all company’s will be willing to pay the extra premium for the blades since company’s have to pay out for consumables they’ll get the cheapest but most effective options they can to cut cost and of course your average worker isn’t going to be willing to pay out for consumables as such (especially if he has to fork out of his own pocket for tools because the company won’t) since tools are used all day everyday for commercial work use and most company’s won’t even cover repairs. So yes it would be nice but as your average joe tradie I think I’ll just stick with the normal blade makita grinder I have. I use it without the ratchet anyway but I get what he’s saying about using it for reinsurance, got to take extra precaution with grinders man
Does the dewalt xr grinder and drills Amd impact drivers. Have overheat protection i know the older dewalt s did not. Do you reccomend makita tools or dewalt. ?
My only question is how does the Makita grinder perform compared to the Milwaukee fuel? I use a coworkers Makita grinder regularly and I like it, but was going to buy the Milwaukee just because I have more and larger m18 batteries.
I think the only valid argument is the extra cost of the discs but I can totally see this for a mechanic or fabricator who constantly needs to go back and fourth between flap discs, cut off wheels and grinding wheels but for me if I’m bringing a grinder to a jobsite I usually only need it to do one thing so not worth buying a new one but my next grinder after my Milwaukee craps out will probably be an X lock
I love the idea of x lock but gotta wait for my current platform to adopt it. If I bought the miskita it would be my only one. So we will see when milwaukee wants to get with the times.
Just saying if the xlock breaks or if its Jamed up or doesn't lock, then you have to go through the warranty process I think the standard grinder washer would have more options to be fixed and would save you time, do you agree @vcg construction?
No cup diamond wheels & how often do you change the bits? Is it really worth the extra expense of the tool & the blades? A £6 M14 quick nut does it for me!
Hi Vince, nice vid, i have a xlock bosch grinder almost 2 years, and very happy with her, you forget mentioned one thing about xlock wheel, its the best option for noob like me, i always have problems in place the wheel with xlock i always know, i cant mess it.
Hello VCG Love the X Lock. Its good to see Makita getting X Lock. Also, Bosch needs to be more available in retail stores. Being available on line is ok, but having the tools in store where they can be put in to a customers hands I think is more important.
Here in Germany you can purchase Bosch in every hardware store. Milwaukee is only available online... also Milwaukee is way more expensive here. I would buy much more Milwaukee tools if it would be cheaper. So I own tons of Bosch and Makita and just a few red tools...
@@derdude8201 Good to hear. I use Bosch, Metabo, Makita, and Fein in my business. Fein is really difficult to purchase here in Pennsylvania. Thanks for your input.
man i remember one time my locking nut got so ceased up so badly it took me close to an hour and alot of scraped knuckles to remove, wanted an x-lock ever since.
Kinda reminds me of the ez lock dremel accessories. Where those can save you from overtightening the bit and cracking the cutoff wheels on the old style. I use to hand tighten till one came loose and had some lets just say unexpected results... so I always tighten with the wrench... but this one I don't need a wrench... when the time comes for me to buy a new one.. I'm switching up.
If youre worried about grinder down time, I would start with not using a cordless solution, lol you'll change your battery 50 times before your grinding wheel.
Do you think there will be a adapter to allow me to keep using my 5/8 Arbour size coring bits? I drill a lot of faucet holes in granite and quartz. Usually 1 1/4" and 1 3/8". Wonder if that was thought of or not. Love the idea but if I can't use my coring bits then somewhat useless for me. If anybody knows please let me know.
Just bought the XAG26Z, I think it’s just the paddle switch version of this, I absolutely love it and the X-lock technology. Only problem is my local depot doesn’t carry the X-lock wheels. No problem cause the internet has me covered
I was just gifted an X-LOCK grinder recently, and I think it's awesome, but I have one huge complaint, and that is I have flap discs that use Scotch-Brite material instead of sandpaper of various grits that I use for restoration work, and even a year after this video, similar flap discs aren't available in X-LOCK. If I want to use those discs, I'll either need to modify the center of the discs so X-LOCK will grab them (Definitely not safe) or stick with the old style of grinder
mannn. i get that it's faster, but i wish you either just flipped the blade while testing non-xlock or grabbed a different blade while testing xlock. it's only a few seconds i get it but it's a discrepancy no doubt. Love the channel! I've been seeing the xlocks at HD and I hope it's the future as it works with both style grinders (for cut off discs) and seems easier to manufacture as well. Keep on rockin!
Well that price comparison didn't change my mind much when I'm spending less than a dollar for 5-inch cutoff wheels. The technology is cool though. I'm on the m18 platform and don't feel like going to another platform so maybe if milwaukee comes out with one I'll try it out.
19 seconds vs 3 seconds! Wow, that’s awesome. I’m not in the market for a new grinder but if I was, I would go X-Lock, but I’d have to wait till there was a M18 model. Haha. Well done. 👍🏻
Just got one of these. The problem right now is a lack of discs or, more specifically, disc selection. Maybe also other accessories. For example, I was looking for a diamond cup wheel and dust shroud to remove old thin set mortar. There is no X-Lock wheel like this right now and I'm not sure if the existing dust shrouds from Makita or anyone else will fit this grinder. But I do believe tool-less quick change is the future so I'm going to stick with it. If it came down to it, I could just get a disposable grinder for wheels that aren't in X-Lock format. Now, if someone would just come out with an adapter for 7/8 to X-Lock that would be convenient in the interim.
With my Milwaukee M18 grinder it takes only a few seconds to change blade out because I have the nut with the flip up to make it easy to tighten or loosen the nut without the wrench so you don't need to look around for a tool to remove the nut but I will be buying the cut off blades
I normally use the grinder disc's to lock the nut down I never use a spanner wrench never had any problems using the disc to tighten the nut I would never say the way I do it is faster then x lock but I got 15 different grinders that use the old way don't need to do blade changes to different items as often when you have a different disc on each grinder @Vcgconstruction
i want to switch over to the X-lock system but which grinder to get...makita or bosch ? 🤔 i have had corded makita grinders in the past so im kinda familiar with them but bosch does make decent stuff and those core batteries are good from what i hear.
I have a little, milwaukee angle grinder that defies any attempt to tighten the flange nut with just your hand. I always use the wrench. When someone else saw me doing this, and told me you can tighten it down without the wrench, I told them to try it. They did. Then, they turned it on. The motor ramps up in a way that it spins the flange nut loose if you didn't actually lock it down properly. Seeing that cutoff wheel wobble on the arbor made them nervous, and they didn't bother me about why I'm not a tough guy who throws away the wrench (and the handle, and the blade guard), again. It's always the same people that tighten by hand, that also leave the grinder plugged in while putting the their hand on the disc, too. Funny how laziness tends toward laziness. Lol. If there's any handheld power tool you should FEAR, it's the angle grinder. I think so, anyway. It's one of my all-time, most-used tools. But, I don't ever let myself start thinking that that m'fucker wouldn't straight-up MURDER me if I gave it the chance. Lol. All of that to say that I am very interested in a tool-less blade change angle grinder that doesn't involve putting people in the hospital. Haha.
So you're saying that your grinder runs in the same direction as the threads on the ring nut? I think Milwaukee would be interested in seeing that tool. I suspect that you have your flange backwards for the thickness of the consumable you are using.
This is amazing but I just don’t use my grinder enough to justify switching and also cause I would have to get the kit cause I don’t have any makita or bousch tools and I know it won’t be as good as the xlock but have you seen the new ryobi hp grinder too less change just wondering what you thought of it
My big concern with this blade change system is the longevity of it. With a standard blade change, you have a big nut holding the blade on. With this new system, there are a lot more working parts. I still use my old Dewalt cordless grinder with an adaptor to use Milwaukee batteries and the blade change still works on a tool that is probably twenty years old. When this grinder fails I will probably replace it with a Milwaukee grinder to save having a different set of batteries and charger to lug around with me. If I was workshop based I would have no hesitation in swapping brands.
I think you should not think about the simple and robust mechanism of the X-lock failing. Your concern should first be directed towards the electrical/ electronic components including the motor itself failing first before the locking mechanism.
As a professional tile installer I’m not changing blades all the time and a lot of tile cutting blades don’t uses x lock. So I’ll stick with my cordless Dewalt at least until there’s more options for x lock blades
The beautiful thing about Bosch is that it is owned by a charitable foundation. Every time you purchase a Bosch tool, some portion of that money is going to a reputable charity.
@@CP-ok1gv Yeah they can be. Their router is really nice. So is their worm drive saw. The only reason I held back from purchasing the worm drive was parts availability compared to the Skil 77.
Christian P it is a regional thing I guess. Here in Germany the Bosch stuff is cheaper than Milwaukee. In the US Milwaukee is cheaper than Bosch... Europeans pay a premium for American brands, Americans pay a premium for German brands...
This is legacy of the company founder, Robert Bosch. He stated it in his will that some of company profit be donated to charitable causes. He was not the typical early 20 century industrailist. He introduced 8-hour work days, employee training and personal development programs, social benefits for employees like paid vacations, health insurance, and company pension plans, which included survivor's pension; something almost unheard of in the industrial envirnoment of early 1900s Germany. He was also vehemently opposed to war. During WW1, his factories were turned into hospitals. He donated artificial limbs to WW1 amputees. As a pacifist, he had no interest in arms contracts before and during WW2, but Hitler wasn't asking nicely, so he didn't have much of a choice. Nonetheless, he ran secret resistance efforts against the Nazi regime. There is a quote attributed to Robert Bosch: "I don't pay good wages because I have a lot of money; rather, I have lot of money, because I pay good wages."
Run my own welding shop, it dont save that much time. And the time you save will eventually get lost when you destroy the locking mechanism. In tight places you sometimes hit a corner with the locking nut. The x-lock will not handle that in the long run. And even worse is that it could be dangerous. The locking mechanism can hook a corner. And if it breaks. You have discs flying around at 6000 rpm...
I’m considering getting the Milwaukee because the that’s my platform. I do wish they had the x lock. I’m sure after i purchase 6 months later they’ll have stuck a deal with Bosch to make theirs….idk what to do. Free battery atm
I have been loving the x lock since I grabbed the bosch smart grinder with speed control I still use my old grinders more but the projects that I need to use multiple discs x lock is way faster @Vcgconstruction
I know this video has been out a while now. I have an X- Lock Grinder. I'm an electrician and it has been more cost effective to use. But it's also safer to use. Some disc's I use daily are directional. The X-Lock system will not let you install them the wrong way around. This also makes sure you get the full life of that disc every time. Also Thanks for your content, it's always well done...
What about using non-xlock wheels on an xlock grinder? My main concern is that xlock disks are more expensive. A buck here and there on disks adds up since those are wearable disposable components especially with the cutoff wheels.
I suppose if you life depended on it a fast disc change would be beneficial. Nice system but us it really necessary to change a disc that fast? Cost of discs versus speed
@vcg Great video as always Vince. I am in the market for a grinder and now I am puzzled. Was leaning towards the Dewalt. I like the X lock... all grinders should move to this lock system but here is the question???? While the X Lock is superior and definitely quicker, does the tool that has a super fast blade change perform better than Dewalt Power Detect or the Milwaukee Fuel 18v?????? I have to consider platform that I am on Dewalt , but mostly Milwaukee. So if I wanted to buy into the XLock I would have to move into a platform I am not on. 😞 I wish the Milwaukee or Dewalt would have the X Lock. Question Again???? How does the Makita grinder compare to Dewalt “ POWER DETECT BABY” ???????? Please do a comparison Dewalt vs Fuel 18 vs Makita... thanks
NYC Boxing, you made this statement, "While the X Lock is superior and definitely quicker,..." Please explain how other than being quicker, X Lock is superior to the standard method of mounting grinder consumables. Have you considered the small bearing and supporting surface of the X Lock attachment on the wheel flanges vs the standard ring nut?
I love the technology. Just going to wait on Milwaukee to see if they get with the program. If they don’t within the year then I’ll just have to go Makita set to make it worth it
I think x lock is cool, but I'm not too concerned about 20 seconds. Although, when the grinder I have finally dies (because they all do eventually) you can bet I'm upgrading to x lock.
If you have a Milwaukee one, it will never die. But you may want a fancier one with Bluetooth, Internet, and active noise cancelling like your headphones, LoL
I have a oscillating multitool with Starlock plus, and the toolless blade attachment is an absolute godsend. Once you try that, you will never, ever again, want to have anything to do with a multitool whose blade attachment involves allen keys, removable lugs, or anything else that has a potential to be dropped, lost or just wasting your time in general. And I'm convinced it's the same story with X-lock. I already have a 125 mm corded grinder with standard M14 spindle, so I'll go for a 150 mm cordless Bosch 18V (I'm already invested into their Core battery system), as soon as they releases EU equivalent to the US market's "Profactor" "Spitfire". (By the way - seriously, Bosch? That's not cool, employing 13 year old kids in your marketing department. Child labor is illegal, you know?). Anyway. I'm not even a pro contractor or anything, so I probably won't be earning much money with it (my primary job is MCR technician in a TV company). But it still makes sense for me, even when all I use a grinder for is DIY stuff and whatever needs to be done or fixed on and around my house... a 70 years old, two-story house with attic and cellar, built entirely of solid bricks, so actually the use cases are many. Enough of them to get frustrated with the wheel changes. Why? Murphy's law: - You WILL at some point accidentally drop the nut, OR the spacer, OR the spanner, and if you're working up somewhere on a ladder or scaffolding, the probability increases tenfold. - To use a wire cup, you have to remove the nut and spacer. As you put them away somewhere safe, they WILL disappear from that place the moment you leave them out of your sight. - Tightening the nut by twisting the disc is fine when it's a steel disc for masonry, but it's a bad idea with something like a bonded cutting disc that's only 1mm thin, because it WILL crack. - Sometimes, the goddamn nut just won't come off, because someone else torqued it super tight, and you WILL have to look for the spanner, and it WILL NOT be where it's supposed to be. With X-lock, all these annoyances are eliminated. They may seem insignificant, especially to someone whose only experience with grinders is arguing about them on internet, but when you're actually trying to get something done in a reasonable time, any of these things will properly piss you off.
Vince, I have a Bosch X-Lock grinder and it's terrific! Another advantage is that you don't have to keep track of the lock rings and bushings that many standard grinders have when you use screw on wheels, they end up in the bottom of the tool box or lost. Translation; more lost time. Makita, as usual, has made a very smart move in adopting this tech, can't wait to see it with their new 40V platform!
Besides the ease of use, this would be the reason I get one. Most people love the fact that cordless makes it so much nicer because of not having to deal with plugging it in. This is the same kind of advancement just on the other end of the tool. There are some people who are just too hardheaded. I’m not a professional and that’s why it will probably be a while before I spend the money to get a new grinder.
Got the Makita X-Lock last week used it today for the first time
Went for cutting timber to slabs in seconds unbelievable and worked great
I'll wait for Milwaukee to come out with one. I can't afford to change my whole battery platform based on one tool
You can buy it and buy an adapter and use your milwaukee batteries on it. I have a makita platform but I use a milwaukee one hand recip fuel m18 tool with my makita batteries no problem with adapter
I’m thinking same thing. I will wait for dewalt to use something like this. I can’t start with another battery platform when I have so much invested in dewalt already
Bro just buy when they give out promotions makita always giving away batteries
@Semi Interesting yeah I saw that today idk why people make a big fuss about batteries when these brands are always giving them away
Thank you from Mexico Vince, I have the same Dewalt and I’m always thought it has very fast changing wheel but since I met the x-lock sistem I had waiting it arrives to my country…it never happened but finally the same Makita you tested I found at Amazon and immediately bought it, I am waiting it arrives to me and will be happy. Another theme are the accessories, I learned a lot of them with your video, God Bless you
I bet these same people didn’t think keyless chucks were a time saver either. lol I like tools with no tool blade, bit, or whee changing for one reason: I keep misplacing the wrench or Alan key that comes with the tool and I wind up spending 10 minutes looking for it. Great fair review Vince as always.
I bought a Makita x lock cordless, I was worried because the first Makita cordless grinders where useless, but as I’ve got all makita tools I thought I would try the new X lock grinder… fantastic bit of kit doesn’t stop when you put pressure on it. Definitely recommend.
"I don't even use muh brain, I use muscle memory" lol! Classic..
I have a dewalt one. I’m switching to that one Makita tool just for the convenience of switching disc fast. I use one for cutting conduit then need another to cut a box down I installed in the ground it saves me time and safer. I’m human and have forgotten to take the battery out. Felt grateful to still have fingers. Thanks for the video.
I got a pack of X lock cut-off disc a month ago, but didn't notice it was designed for quick swapping disc for a new tool! But thankfully it fit! Thanks for the video vince! Lol
I love the outdated haters , they probably hate electric cars and anything new. I want a Xlock grinder ! Excellent video!
How are you gunna compare someone Liking a tool to a car😂😂
@@Tyler-ty6cm simple, this Xlock makita grinder tool is futuristic and a smart purchase just like a nice electric car.
Electric cars are not advanced enough for them to be a safe investment
Another revolutionary tech innovation similar to sds, Velcro sanding pads, star lock multi tool set ups. Grab it while the intro deals are out there.
2 years later and the diablo xlock buy 3 get 2 free are still going on. Just bought a 26z grinder with wheels today.
Love the video Vince. I got the Diablo oscillating blades from you're other video and you were spot on they're the best I've used
Keep up the good work Vince thank u for looking out for us man
Definitely does very good tool reviews. This guy is the reason I finally picked up the High out put m18 batteries
Happy Sunday, VCG and all the gang! Keep up the great work you do! 🪛🧰🪚🪜🛠😍
Thank you for the new tool updates. When you were talking about the He man, I don’t need the wrenches to take off the cutting wheel on that DeWalt grinder, I got a laugh from that one. I didn’t think that I needed to wear gloves while using a cutoff wheel on my 4.5” grinder until it kicked backed & put cut on my finger, still have all of them but it could’ve been worse, now I wear gloves whenever I’m using power tools. Keep on doing what you do for all tool guys, full time users or part time users.
“Not even my brain, I use muscle memory” hahah 😂
What’s up from Harrisburg! Great videos brother. Appreciate how I’m depth you get. Keep em coming and stay safe 💪🏼
Today I was cutting some metal angles with thin cut disc, and had to switch to grinder wheel and back to thin cut disc again. And during the switching back and forth, I was telling myself that the disc changing is so freaking annoying.
Also I hated to wait by holding the cut off tool until the disc stop spinning before taking my hand off it. From a safety side, the new brake is a good reason to change to this new tool.
For me, I think these 2 features are very good reason to adopt to this setup. 👍
Just picked up that Makita last week. Have used it multiple times already and love it.
How much?
How much?
I have the corded Makita with X Lock - fantastic. NOW - can they apply this technology to circular saws and miter saws?
Amen to that
I have Bosch, 18v 10 x lock, and IT îs more powerful, than Makita.
New x lock Bosch 18v 15 biturbo, will smash Makita.
Do you happen to know if the bosch xlock accessories (cutoff wheel, grinder wheel etc.) compatible with the makita grinder ???
@@francisconavarrete1494 Should be - Makita got the X Lock from Bosch under patent I believe.
@@francisconavarrete1494 x lock is the same on all tools.
I've adopted early to the X lock grinders, unfortunately here in Australia the only option that I can find so far for discs are Bosch branded ones, hopefully the range will broaden in time.
For cordless x lock is awesome. As i only want to carry one grinder to site. In the shop where i have a corded grinder for each wheel i don’t necessarily see the need. But would still be nice to have.
Saving the time seems to be a great feature! Thx for the review
I would like to see how well the X lock works when it gets full of metal or concrete grinding dust.
Was thinking the same
@Matt Mattson thanks baby
im a roofer and have the dga519 5inch x lock and literally done hundreds of metres of chasing for lead work and general roofing absolute beast of a grinder super durable lasted 3 years and got totally abused, just ordered new 1
"Keep your hands off my trusty grinder!" 🤣🤣 Now, THAT'S priceless! Makita and Bosch ftw. Thank you, Vince, and God bless! 😁👍✌ P.S. oh, and Diablo discs. 💯
My question is how long will that X Lock last before it starts loosing tension and lock? Then you have a safety concern that you have to either fix or buy a new one. Am I right or missing something here? I’ve been looking at the Makita X Lock at TSC lately for $149 with accessories. Just haven’t decided to jump over yet as it’s a new deal.
Here in the uk x lock grinders are priced pretty much the same as ordinary grinders so, if you need a new grinder sure why not take advantage of newer technology, if you already have a grinder I wouldnt really buy just for that feature already owning that dewalt shown on the video. Nice video guys as always :)
I actually bought the new Bosch x lock Bluetooth all singing all dancing one before cancelling it and getting the standard one because I couldn't find an x lock mortar rake/chasing blade. It was a couple months ago though. Shame because the braking on x lock grinders are so much faster.
Not all company’s will be willing to pay the extra premium for the blades since company’s have to pay out for consumables they’ll get the cheapest but most effective options they can to cut cost and of course your average worker isn’t going to be willing to pay out for consumables as such (especially if he has to fork out of his own pocket for tools because the company won’t) since tools are used all day everyday for commercial work use and most company’s won’t even cover repairs. So yes it would be nice but as your average joe tradie I think I’ll just stick with the normal blade makita grinder I have. I use it without the ratchet anyway but I get what he’s saying about using it for reinsurance, got to take extra precaution with grinders man
Does the dewalt xr grinder and drills Amd impact drivers. Have overheat protection i know the older dewalt s did not. Do you reccomend makita tools or dewalt. ?
Thank you so much for this video you are good
Been watching these on the shelves for weeks now. Not moving at all. Boxes of wheels still full as well. Waiting for them to hit the clearance rack.
My only question is how does the Makita grinder perform compared to the Milwaukee fuel? I use a coworkers Makita grinder regularly and I like it, but was going to buy the Milwaukee just because I have more and larger m18 batteries.
Thanks for the information. Before I buy a tool I see your videos too decide. Keep it up I love your videos.
I think the only valid argument is the extra cost of the discs but I can totally see this for a mechanic or fabricator who constantly needs to go back and fourth between flap discs, cut off wheels and grinding wheels but for me if I’m bringing a grinder to a jobsite I usually only need it to do one thing so not worth buying a new one but my next grinder after my Milwaukee craps out will probably be an X lock
Have the tool and love it. Wheels last a while
Just got the Xlock Makita, pretty happy with the purchase, works great on jobsites. Definitely a time saver.
Literally my favorite grinder right now!
I just bought the Makita angle grinder. The paddle switch one. I have to use it today.
Awesome video Vince thanks again !
i want a case with it >: )
why doesn't Makita give us a nice case i would be sold if they did.
I love the idea of x lock but gotta wait for my current platform to adopt it. If I bought the miskita it would be my only one. So we will see when milwaukee wants to get with the times.
Just saying if the xlock breaks or if its Jamed up or doesn't lock, then you have to go through the warranty process
I think the standard grinder washer would have more options to be fixed and would save you time, do you agree @vcg construction?
No cup diamond wheels & how often do you change the bits? Is it really worth the extra expense of the tool & the blades? A £6 M14 quick nut does it for me!
Hi Vince, nice vid, i have a xlock bosch grinder almost 2 years, and very happy with her, you forget mentioned one thing about xlock wheel, its the best option for noob like me, i always have problems in place the wheel with xlock i always know, i cant mess it.
Hello VCG
Love the X Lock. Its good to see Makita getting X Lock.
Also, Bosch needs to be more available in retail stores. Being available on line is ok, but having the tools in store where they can be put in to a customers hands I think is more important.
I agree Stephen, thanks! 👍🏻
Here in Germany you can purchase Bosch in every hardware store. Milwaukee is only available online... also Milwaukee is way more expensive here. I would buy much more Milwaukee tools if it would be cheaper. So I own tons of Bosch and Makita and just a few red tools...
@@derdude8201 Good to hear. I use Bosch, Metabo, Makita, and Fein in my business. Fein is really difficult to purchase here in Pennsylvania. Thanks for your input.
man i remember one time my locking nut got so ceased up so badly it took me close to an hour and alot of scraped knuckles to remove, wanted an x-lock ever since.
This is awesome I love the smart ass attitude. You the man
Kinda reminds me of the ez lock dremel accessories. Where those can save you from overtightening the bit and cracking the cutoff wheels on the old style.
I use to hand tighten till one came loose and had some lets just say unexpected results... so I always tighten with the wrench... but this one I don't need a wrench... when the time comes for me to buy a new one.. I'm switching up.
If youre worried about grinder down time, I would start with not using a cordless solution, lol you'll change your battery 50 times before your grinding wheel.
Do you think there will be a adapter to allow me to keep using my 5/8 Arbour size coring bits? I drill a lot of faucet holes in granite and quartz. Usually 1 1/4" and 1 3/8". Wonder if that was thought of or not. Love the idea but if I can't use my coring bits then somewhat useless for me. If anybody knows please let me know.
Just bought the XAG26Z, I think it’s just the paddle switch version of this, I absolutely love it and the X-lock technology. Only problem is my local depot doesn’t carry the X-lock wheels. No problem cause the internet has me covered
Being forced to go to the internet for consumables sounds handy.... lol
I was just gifted an X-LOCK grinder recently, and I think it's awesome, but I have one huge complaint, and that is I have flap discs that use Scotch-Brite material instead of sandpaper of various grits that I use for restoration work, and even a year after this video, similar flap discs aren't available in X-LOCK. If I want to use those discs, I'll either need to modify the center of the discs so X-LOCK will grab them (Definitely not safe) or stick with the old style of grinder
There are adaptors, on Amazon and Aliexpress...
mannn. i get that it's faster, but i wish you either just flipped the blade while testing non-xlock or grabbed a different blade while testing xlock. it's only a few seconds i get it but it's a discrepancy no doubt. Love the channel! I've been seeing the xlocks at HD and I hope it's the future as it works with both style grinders (for cut off discs) and seems easier to manufacture as well. Keep on rockin!
Thanks for the video. Like 👍 all your videos
Well that price comparison didn't change my mind much when I'm spending less than a dollar for 5-inch cutoff wheels. The technology is cool though. I'm on the m18 platform and don't feel like going to another platform so maybe if milwaukee comes out with one I'll try it out.
19 seconds vs 3 seconds! Wow, that’s awesome. I’m not in the market for a new grinder but if I was, I would go X-Lock, but I’d have to wait till there was a M18 model. Haha. Well done. 👍🏻
Thanks ZZ we appreciate the feedback!
😂😂”I use mah hands and nothing but my hands.. not even my brain..”💪🏼💪🏼👊 😂😂😂 I’m dead!
Just got one of these. The problem right now is a lack of discs or, more specifically, disc selection. Maybe also other accessories. For example, I was looking for a diamond cup wheel and dust shroud to remove old thin set mortar. There is no X-Lock wheel like this right now and I'm not sure if the existing dust shrouds from Makita or anyone else will fit this grinder. But I do believe tool-less quick change is the future so I'm going to stick with it. If it came down to it, I could just get a disposable grinder for wheels that aren't in X-Lock format. Now, if someone would just come out with an adapter for 7/8 to X-Lock that would be convenient in the interim.
There is already. Look on Amazon
With my Milwaukee M18 grinder it takes only a few seconds to change blade out because I have the nut with the flip up to make it easy to tighten or loosen the nut without the wrench so you don't need to look around for a tool to remove the nut but I will be buying the cut off blades
I normally use the grinder disc's to lock the nut down I never use a spanner wrench never had any problems using the disc to tighten the nut I would never say the way I do it is faster then x lock but I got 15 different grinders that use the old way don't need to do blade changes to different items as often when you have a different disc on each grinder @Vcgconstruction
This would be great technology for the cordless circular saw as well
For a diy what table saw would do the job is 10" ridge a good won.thank you
i want to switch over to the X-lock system but which grinder to get...makita or bosch ? 🤔 i have had corded makita grinders in the past so im kinda familiar with them but bosch does make decent stuff and those core batteries are good from what i hear.
I have Bosch batteries that are about 8 years old and still work fine
I live for your videos man. Keep preaching.
I appreciate that
In Australia Milwaukee launched flixtec. I converted all my 6 grinders. Never look back!
Very good review! Spot on with everything you said...
Way to go Vince! You convinced me!!!
I have a little, milwaukee angle grinder that defies any attempt to tighten the flange nut with just your hand. I always use the wrench. When someone else saw me doing this, and told me you can tighten it down without the wrench, I told them to try it. They did. Then, they turned it on. The motor ramps up in a way that it spins the flange nut loose if you didn't actually lock it down properly. Seeing that cutoff wheel wobble on the arbor made them nervous, and they didn't bother me about why I'm not a tough guy who throws away the wrench (and the handle, and the blade guard), again. It's always the same people that tighten by hand, that also leave the grinder plugged in while putting the their hand on the disc, too. Funny how laziness tends toward laziness. Lol.
If there's any handheld power tool you should FEAR, it's the angle grinder. I think so, anyway. It's one of my all-time, most-used tools. But, I don't ever let myself start thinking that that m'fucker wouldn't straight-up MURDER me if I gave it the chance. Lol.
All of that to say that I am very interested in a tool-less blade change angle grinder that doesn't involve putting people in the hospital. Haha.
So you're saying that your grinder runs in the same direction as the threads on the ring nut? I think Milwaukee would be interested in seeing that tool. I suspect that you have your flange backwards for the thickness of the consumable you are using.
The best way to think. Thanks. I will buy x lock. Is safer.
I saw this at home depot and might get one soon when I have the money
hey vince im digging x lock you think milwaukee will get on board any word im just curious since im in there platform of tools and batteries
This is amazing but I just don’t use my grinder enough to justify switching and also cause I would have to get the kit cause I don’t have any makita or bousch tools and I know it won’t be as good as the xlock but have you seen the new ryobi hp grinder too less change just wondering what you thought of it
Thanks for the feedback Emer, we appreciate it!
My big concern with this blade change system is the longevity of it. With a standard blade change, you have a big nut holding the blade on. With this new system, there are a lot more working parts. I still use my old Dewalt cordless grinder with an adaptor to use Milwaukee batteries and the blade change still works on a tool that is probably twenty years old. When this grinder fails I will probably replace it with a Milwaukee grinder to save having a different set of batteries and charger to lug around with me. If I was workshop based I would have no hesitation in swapping brands.
I think you should not think about the simple and robust mechanism of the X-lock failing. Your concern should first be directed towards the electrical/ electronic components including the motor itself failing first before the locking mechanism.
VCG do you think Milwaukee will move to this x-lock system on the Milwaukee tools ?
can you use normal grinding disks on an xlock grinder?
When Milwaukee comes out with one ill get one, not gonna change battery platforms to one that is overall more expensive for one tool.
I have a metabo with quick change and I can use all the accessories on it, having a pretty decent velocity
If only that makita had a speed variable as well. Was real close to getting one ha
As a professional tile installer I’m not changing blades all the time and a lot of tile cutting blades don’t uses x lock. So I’ll stick with my cordless Dewalt at least until there’s more options for x lock blades
The beautiful thing about Bosch is that it is owned by a charitable foundation. Every time you purchase a Bosch tool, some portion of that money is going to a reputable charity.
I like that too about Bosch, although some of the products are def expensive
@@CP-ok1gv Yeah they can be. Their router is really nice. So is their worm drive saw. The only reason I held back from purchasing the worm drive was parts availability compared to the Skil 77.
Christian P it is a regional thing I guess. Here in Germany the Bosch stuff is cheaper than Milwaukee. In the US Milwaukee is cheaper than Bosch... Europeans pay a premium for American brands, Americans pay a premium for German brands...
@@derdude8201 ok got it that makes sense now.
This is legacy of the company founder, Robert Bosch. He stated it in his will that some of company profit be donated to charitable causes.
He was not the typical early 20 century industrailist. He introduced 8-hour work days, employee training and personal development programs, social benefits for employees like paid vacations, health insurance, and company pension plans, which included survivor's pension; something almost unheard of in the industrial envirnoment of early 1900s Germany. He was also vehemently opposed to war. During WW1, his factories were turned into hospitals. He donated artificial limbs to WW1 amputees. As a pacifist, he had no interest in arms contracts before and during WW2, but Hitler wasn't asking nicely, so he didn't have much of a choice. Nonetheless, he ran secret resistance efforts against the Nazi regime.
There is a quote attributed to Robert Bosch: "I don't pay good wages because I have a lot of money; rather, I have lot of money, because I pay good wages."
How can I convert the makita to use the regular disc? my boss only provides me regular disc .no.
The X lock
I work in a welding shop and would love to give some of these a try just to see how much time I save over the day
Run my own welding shop, it dont save that much time. And the time you save will eventually get lost when you destroy the locking mechanism. In tight places you sometimes hit a corner with the locking nut. The x-lock will not handle that in the long run. And even worse is that it could be dangerous. The locking mechanism can hook a corner. And if it breaks. You have discs flying around at 6000 rpm...
@@krusch75 finally another voice from the real world is heard!
Just bought that makita today, i cut 5x aa much metal today with the xlock than i did yesterdat with my ryobi wit diablo blade
Can a 115mm x lock blade fit on my 125mm xlock grinder?
@vcg, i think the xlock is here to stay , i love the fast and crisp sound it make
I’m considering getting the Milwaukee because the that’s my platform. I do wish they had the x lock. I’m sure after i purchase 6 months later they’ll have stuck a deal with Bosch to make theirs….idk what to do. Free battery atm
I have been loving the x lock since I grabbed the bosch smart grinder with speed control I still use my old grinders more but the projects that I need to use multiple discs x lock is way faster @Vcgconstruction
I know this video has been out a while now. I have an X- Lock Grinder. I'm an electrician and it has been more cost effective to use. But it's also safer to use. Some disc's I use daily are directional. The X-Lock system will not let you install them the wrong way around. This also makes sure you get the full life of that disc every time.
Also Thanks for your content, it's always well done...
Good stuff, thanks for sharing Andrew!
What about using non-xlock wheels on an xlock grinder? My main concern is that xlock disks are more expensive. A buck here and there on disks adds up since those are wearable disposable components especially with the cutoff wheels.
I suppose if you life depended on it a fast disc change would be beneficial.
Nice system but us it really necessary to change a disc that fast?
Cost of discs versus speed
@vcg Great video as always Vince.
I am in the market for a grinder and now I am puzzled. Was leaning towards the Dewalt. I like the X lock... all grinders should move to this lock system but here is the question????
While the X Lock is superior and definitely quicker, does the tool that has a super fast blade change perform better than Dewalt Power Detect or the Milwaukee Fuel 18v??????
I have to consider platform that I am on Dewalt , but mostly Milwaukee.
So if I wanted to buy into the XLock I would have to move into a platform I am not on. 😞
I wish the Milwaukee or Dewalt would have the X Lock.
Question Again????
How does the Makita grinder compare to Dewalt “ POWER DETECT BABY” ????????
Please do a comparison Dewalt vs Fuel 18 vs Makita... thanks
NYC Boxing, you made this statement, "While the X Lock is superior and definitely quicker,..." Please explain how other than being quicker, X Lock is superior to the standard method of mounting grinder consumables. Have you considered the small bearing and supporting surface of the X Lock attachment on the wheel flanges vs the standard ring nut?
Go Vince!
You don't know, lol.
Vince Knows!
If he doesn't
the VCG got his back.💯
Question, can the wheel be released while it spins? Either intentionally or inadvertently.
I keep misplacing the wrench to tighten the disc, so its a win for me.
I can see that working in the field probably huge time saver. But in a shop you're better off having different grinders with a dedicated wheel.
I hope that they will sell (or lease) this technology to the industry, and bet on making it up on the consumable goods.
@VCG do you think flex will do something like this with their cordless grinder when they come out with one?
Absolutely
Good video Vin.
Thanks Larry!
I love the technology. Just going to wait on Milwaukee to see if they get with the program. If they don’t within the year then I’ll just have to go Makita set to make it worth it
I made the switch from milwaukee to makita and couldn't be happier
I think x lock is cool, but I'm not too concerned about 20 seconds. Although, when the grinder I have finally dies (because they all do eventually) you can bet I'm upgrading to x lock.
If you have a Milwaukee one, it will never die. But you may want a fancier one with Bluetooth, Internet, and active noise cancelling like your headphones, LoL
@@robertical It's not only BT, it's kickback stop.
@@robertical It will die. Especially if you're grinding and cutting masonry all the time and you don't blow out the vents often.
I have a oscillating multitool with Starlock plus, and the toolless blade attachment is an absolute godsend. Once you try that, you will never, ever again, want to have anything to do with a multitool whose blade attachment involves allen keys, removable lugs, or anything else that has a potential to be dropped, lost or just wasting your time in general.
And I'm convinced it's the same story with X-lock. I already have a 125 mm corded grinder with standard M14 spindle, so I'll go for a 150 mm cordless Bosch 18V (I'm already invested into their Core battery system), as soon as they releases EU equivalent to the US market's "Profactor" "Spitfire". (By the way - seriously, Bosch? That's not cool, employing 13 year old kids in your marketing department. Child labor is illegal, you know?).
Anyway. I'm not even a pro contractor or anything, so I probably won't be earning much money with it (my primary job is MCR technician in a TV company). But it still makes sense for me, even when all I use a grinder for is DIY stuff and whatever needs to be done or fixed on and around my house... a 70 years old, two-story house with attic and cellar, built entirely of solid bricks, so actually the use cases are many. Enough of them to get frustrated with the wheel changes. Why? Murphy's law:
- You WILL at some point accidentally drop the nut, OR the spacer, OR the spanner, and if you're working up somewhere on a ladder or scaffolding, the probability increases tenfold.
- To use a wire cup, you have to remove the nut and spacer. As you put them away somewhere safe, they WILL disappear from that place the moment you leave them out of your sight.
- Tightening the nut by twisting the disc is fine when it's a steel disc for masonry, but it's a bad idea with something like a bonded cutting disc that's only 1mm thin, because it WILL crack.
- Sometimes, the goddamn nut just won't come off, because someone else torqued it super tight, and you WILL have to look for the spanner, and it WILL NOT be where it's supposed to be.
With X-lock, all these annoyances are eliminated. They may seem insignificant, especially to someone whose only experience with grinders is arguing about them on internet, but when you're actually trying to get something done in a reasonable time, any of these things will properly piss you off.
Great videos, Vince! I'm watching you from Russia, you one of the best! Go on!
About time someone found a better way!!!!!