Iirc, Mind quickening gem stayed with 33% increased speed, it didn't switch to rating system in TBC. So it flat out took 1 second out of your 3 sec cast. It was insane even through lower tier5 in BC.
Darkmoon Blue Dragon: If you have 40mana per tick when casting and 100 when not casting you gain 60 mana per tick for 15 seconds (average 7.5 ticks) every 125 seconds on average - if you cast a 2.5sec cast spell indefinetly. This amounts to 450 mana every 125 seconds which is about 18 MP5 or 63 "+Healing" worth of mana, but if you account for the buff overlapping itself, this goes down to ~17.1MP5, which would make it worth just under 60 "+Healing" worth of mana. The mana you gain from this trinket during a fight decreases the more time you spend out of the 5 second rule, for example if you spend 25% of a fight outside the 5 second rule you would get closer to 14.5MP5. Still slightly better than Shard of the Scale on average, but less reliable. This is an estimate of how much regen a Priest with 3 set T2 and some decent MC/Preraid items has in terms of mana regen, this trinket becomes more powerful the more spirit you have.
Only thing I still don't get with the TBC is why Blizz would add it into classic, if blizz was ever to make another release, 9/10 they'd have it in another environment and not classic. Plus they were thinking of adding classic+ content which sounds quite interesting to me.
Making the Crystal even more brutal is the fact that it's now trivial to combine a shock with that bolt so you can easily one shot anyone even without berserker with those two Elemental Mastery auto crits.
Adam Brown and people think ele shamans have good burst now just wait till bwl when they Come with that trinket and a strong neltharions tear or some other strong SP trinket
Did we really say warlocks get the biggest power spike then show 0 reason why they get a large power spike... Would love the Neltharion tear but against the 9 mages its unlikely!
So with talents and certain helm you can get 60 energy everytime you pop into catform thusly with your 48 energy shred (backstab for druids) you can keep doing this for 20 seconds since the trinket reduces mana cost by 100% when shapeshifting. Time your natural 20 energy regen on there and you can do tons of damage over and over again. Extra 2 seconds is from already being in cat form.
Darkmoon card blue dragon will be in its 1.12 state. What this means is for druids and priests the trinket won't stack with their talents and tier bonuses that already allow them to regen in combat. Making it worse than the onyxia or dmw MP5 trinkets. Prior to patch 1.12 it allowed priests and druids to go above 100% mana regen which won't be the case in classic.
It's more like a mindset difference. I'm not gonna feel the need to be as competitive as a healer because frankly it doesn't really matter as much. But if I'm dpsing, I have to prove every raid that I'm worth bringing.
@Brad Do we know it was minimal work? Other games have had a "classic" experience added. It feels like blizzard was rly resilient against classic in the first place. Now just because we go classic everyone feel "entitled" to more stuff? And where does it end? TBC? Then we want WOTLK and CATA, are we going to relive the entire WoW while still getting new retail expanstions. I think blizzard wants to look ahead make new stuff. Sure they got loads of subs for classic but I don't think further old content will be as successful as classic was. We will see what blizzard does, but I find it odd how ppl just automatically assume we will get TBC just because they finally gave in and made classic.
going to get The Black Book for my warlock, people will pass on it because they want some better item heheheheee Improved imp, fel intellect, improved firebolt + blackbook
I wish people would stop saying fury warriors want DFT so badly now. That's old news, furies don't want it anymore. MT Prio if needed for threat, otherwise Rogue > Hunter/Very Good Feral > Wars after everyone else.
@@Target135 honestly, Hunter doesn't really need the Drakefang. Hunters don't benefit at all from any hit above 9%, and they can skill a hefty amount. It's really easy to get to the cap for them, so giving a hunter Drakefang is just really not worth it, and no guild with a hint of competetive thinking would give it to hunters.
@@FABIOof119 The set gives 2% from pants and shoulders, plus 2% from DB rings (3% if you can snatch a Band of Accuria from MC), plus 1% from Onyxia Pendant, which already puts you at a potential 6%. Specc into the 3% hit in Survival and you're golden. Sure, you can substitute some items if you have the Drakefang Talisman, or specc into BM instead of Survival when you have it, it 100% is BiS for Hunters in P3. But still, other classes benefit more from it, and Hunters aren't the strongest DPS class to begin with. So even though the Hunter would use it, giving it to a Hunter over a Rogue or Warrior would be wasted. I would allow Hunters to roll on it in a pug group, but in a raid guild, it would be a waste of a good damage item.
@@FABIOof119 One more thing, since the 8 piece bonus of T2 adds a debuff to the target that won't be useful unless you have around 10 Hunters in your group, most guilds won't allow you to run around with 8/8 T2 anyway. Which means you can use different Items in some slots, like the bracers from Majordomo or even T1 gauntlets, which I actually consider to be stronger than T2 as a standalone item.
The dark moon fair trinket allows for 100% mana regeneration to 'continue'. Since mp5 is always ticking, does the trinket not only provide mana regeneration from spirit to continue or?
It allows your mana to regen at the same speed as if you were not casting / in combat, its pretty great for classes like shadow priest who can struggle with mana sometimes. I wouldnt say that it'd make all mana hungry classes viable though, youll see more healers using it then anything else.
Yep you're right, mp5 continue while casting anyway so it only allows you to benefit from spirit regen while casting, Punkrat mention mp5 but pointless in that case. Plus, it's really not that good as it doesn't stack with talent/bonus tier set you already have (can't go above 100%) @@axion3979 you don't answer the question ^^"
@@axion3979 yep still not the question. He wanted to make sure the trinket was beneficial for spirit only cause Punkrat mentionned mp5 as well. So the answer is yes, mp5 continue while casting anyway
It’s a hate/love how everybody is already talking about TBC... it was the best years of my life and we all know it’s coming BUT I hope they give us casuals time to get geared in classic for at LEAST all of 2020. I honestly wouldn’t mind getting two chars to 60 in classic and release TBC in Jan 2022.
lmao 2022... keep that dream up the servers would be dead at the rates your predicting.. most of us already have at least two 60s and are running two MC's/onys as week on farm preparing for BWL , you can prob expect one year tops out of classic and ppl will want more.. pick up the speed.
so where is the hunter loot? I guess we want the 56 AP trinket there, like everyone else? I remember wanting the tier armor and some of the weapons, but I think one of them is a gun and If I play a troll I will want a bow instead. yes I know, everything is a hunter weapon, but I'm talking the really useful stuff here.
As a healer I can concur. I don't even get world buffs because we don't need it. There's no point healing more than necessary. For items, it's slightly different, though, as those are pretty useful for pvp!
Youre so wrong about these level 60 items being BiS in Black Temple. The tanking trinket is trash once you get TBC, there are items with 30+ and triple the defensive rating.
He is pretty ignorant to these things overall...that being said even though he plays a lot his mentality is a lot more casual than hardcore raiding guilds and theory crafters
Lol. The reason people aer using it situationally in TBC (yes, they are) is because of the 5% block chance. Not the fucking 24 extra block or the def rating.
It truly is BiS, but... if you have 3% hit from scope on your weapon, and 2% hit from the ZG head and leg enchants, and 2% from Band of Accuria, you're at 7%. You will surely get the remaining 2% hit from your tier set. It's still bis though because the AP is good and it allows you to use the +7 damage scope on your weapon instead, but that's a very small upgrade in comparison to what it can do for others. Hit enchants from ZG won't be out in phase 3 though, but you probably shouldn't take DFT just for phase 3.
You do realize that with 2% proc rate you have to cast on average 50 times for it to proc... so it's pretty bad. With bad luck you can cast way over 100 times with no luck
But it runs 15 sec. A cast is only 2.5 sec or lower. So six tries during its run time. Including the possible overlap thats about 10% uptime. Bringing you from 15% to 100% this equals 85%/10 so about 8.5% points or a plus of over 50% (From 15% to average 23.5%). That's really good!
Honestly Loot Council is what makes ppl gquit over gear. I know its what all the "hardcore" guilds do but that's why its so prone to drama. DKP with bid caps is really an objective system. If you don't have DKP, what are you crying about?
at the start you say while you're in full tier 3 that becomes very efffective, very few players will ever be in tier 3 i think u meant to say full tier 2
maelstrom is actually shit for retri as its proc chance doesent increase with 2h ve 1h, also it was only good on private as it stacked with spellpower. hoj and 2% crit will stay bis until phase 6.
People keep saying TBC is going to follow on from class. Is there any prof of this or are people just assuming. Cause honestly why should it lead onto the next expansion.. when do they draw the line? In 8 years time it just turns into the retail we have now?? Surely they should all be stand alone games just like you get separated expansions as private servers.
maybe 8. Just raiding and farming some consumes. Classic got a liitle bit stale for me bec im not into pvp. Hope bwl arrives soon and i hope its not a nerfed version. I want a pve challenge
hunter one is garbage, for that matter most hunter gear is really hardly an upgrade. For example, dragonstalker shoulders has LESS agility than giantstalkers.
Yeah ikr, hunters really get left behind on gear upgrades. 8/8 Giantstalker is only surpassed by a full 8/8 Dragonstalker set, and even then, the upgrade is pretty minimal... Ashjre'thul is the biggest upgrade we can hope for :P And I believe we finally get the 1H agility enchants in Phase 3
@@wipeoutxl21 Eh, fuck 'em. I'd wear it anyway. I think the proc is relatively rare, and has a short duration... And I'd argue that 3-4 hunters benefiting from a 450ap buff for 7 secs is better for total raid DPS than whatever debuff gets knocked off for that short period.
When will people understand that Blue Dragon is crap? Priests/druids will have baseline 30% regen even while casting from t2, and paladins (should) have really low Spirit and purely focus on healing power, allowing them to spam r1/r2 FoL for literally no mana cost. Fights don't last as long as they used to back in vanilla...
As if spamming r1/r2 FoL was enough to keep someone alive in most raid boss encounters... 2% proc is not that bad considering most fights last between 1 to 3 minutes adding to that the additional spirit you get from buffs when it procs it does help, you dont need that much spirit to have a better efficiency than a SotS with it.
One thing you should notice by now if you're playing a Hunter... they were the red-headed step children of Vanilla WoW. TBC changes that, but yeah... I hear you. DFT is our BIS trinket too, but we'll never see it.
Dps on top of the dps meter doesn't need that better gear, so the logic is flawed, that the better dps, should get the better gear, when in fact, its the shitty dps that should have prio on the gear
Iirc, Mind quickening gem stayed with 33% increased speed, it didn't switch to rating system in TBC. So it flat out took 1 second out of your 3 sec cast. It was insane even through lower tier5 in BC.
Everything is “right around the corner”!!😁😬
And always coming straight out of the render oven!
ya Classic wotlk is right around the corner.
Justin Casar but what about tbc?
Naxxramas is just around the corner!
"Soon" - Blizzard
Drops from: Flamegor
Shows: Ebonroc
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Drops from: Ebonroc
Shows: Flamegor
@@xoBlazer Ebonroc shows
from Flamegor drops
He means healers aren't spergs and won't rq over being able to heal a bit better 🙃
Tell that to the RQ paladins who don't get the mageblade
Darkmoon Blue Dragon: If you have 40mana per tick when casting and 100 when not casting you gain 60 mana per tick for 15 seconds (average 7.5 ticks) every 125 seconds on average - if you cast a 2.5sec cast spell indefinetly. This amounts to 450 mana every 125 seconds which is about 18 MP5 or 63 "+Healing" worth of mana, but if you account for the buff overlapping itself, this goes down to ~17.1MP5, which would make it worth just under 60 "+Healing" worth of mana.
The mana you gain from this trinket during a fight decreases the more time you spend out of the 5 second rule, for example if you spend 25% of a fight outside the 5 second rule you would get closer to 14.5MP5. Still slightly better than Shard of the Scale on average, but less reliable.
This is an estimate of how much regen a Priest with 3 set T2 and some decent MC/Preraid items has in terms of mana regen, this trinket becomes more powerful the more spirit you have.
LFM UBRS Ace reserved! (Priest healer)
Punkrat wit another video! The enunciation this time was 💯
Feels like most classic WoW youtubes just repost Skarm Tank videos lately
ikr.. xD
literally my first thought before even seeing ur comment. “Ripping off skarms BWL loot discussion video, yikes”
Right but at least these aren’t 1-3 hours long with nonstop rambling over the same thing nonstop. This is MUCH better.
Neltharion's. Tear. Prepare for the drama of the all your castors fighting over this amazing trinket.
If a mage already has a TOEP and Mind Gem he shouldn't really roll on Tear.
My Closed captions said “Yo gas punker with another video” lolol
🤣
Thanks mate appreciate all the vids!
Only thing I still don't get with the TBC is why Blizz would add it into classic, if blizz was ever to make another release, 9/10 they'd have it in another environment and not classic. Plus they were thinking of adding classic+ content which sounds quite interesting to me.
That paladin you show looks like my old pally punkrat. It brings a smile to my face every time I see it lol
Lol
2:05 I think you meant Black Temple
Seal of the Crusader + Scroll of Blinding Light + Manual Crowd Pummeler = Omnislash Spelladin.
Darkmoon Card Maelstrom for Fury/Prot tanking?
as a hunter....SUNKEN TEMPLE CLASS TRINKET!!!! Hey at least we have something to look forward to.
Making the Crystal even more brutal is the fact that it's now trivial to combine a shock with that bolt so you can easily one shot anyone even without berserker with those two Elemental Mastery auto crits.
Adam Brown and people think ele shamans have good burst now just wait till bwl when they Come with that trinket and a strong neltharions tear or some other strong SP trinket
Yo guys, punkratanotohervididieo
Did we really say warlocks get the biggest power spike then show 0 reason why they get a large power spike... Would love the Neltharion tear but against the 9 mages its unlikely!
Dang dude that druid trinket equates to nonstop backstabbing for 22 seconds plus the regular mana bar on them for powershifting
I know I was thinking it looks pretty damn good for pve too lol
explain?
So with talents and certain helm you can get 60 energy everytime you pop into catform thusly with your 48 energy shred (backstab for druids) you can keep doing this for 20 seconds since the trinket reduces mana cost by 100% when shapeshifting. Time your natural 20 energy regen on there and you can do tons of damage over and over again. Extra 2 seconds is from already being in cat form.
Darkmoon card blue dragon will be in its 1.12 state. What this means is for druids and priests the trinket won't stack with their talents and tier bonuses that already allow them to regen in combat. Making it worse than the onyxia or dmw MP5 trinkets. Prior to patch 1.12 it allowed priests and druids to go above 100% mana regen which won't be the case in classic.
How much are you expecting beast darkmoon cards to go for?
Spot on about the personality difference between dps and healers 😅
Would like a video on that thing. Including tanks and also classes
It's more like a mindset difference. I'm not gonna feel the need to be as competitive as a healer because frankly it doesn't really matter as much. But if I'm dpsing, I have to prove every raid that I'm worth bringing.
you say, we should use the trinkets through tbc but is it confirmed that its comes out again ?!
I'm Crystalize he’s just emphasizing how big the items are. They are good even in the next xpack
You talk about TBC like its confirmed?...
So does most ppl. I dont think its coming at all nor any classic+. but what do i know..
Yes I'm sure Blizzard are going to turn down easy money.
@Brad Do we know it was minimal work? Other games have had a "classic" experience added. It feels like blizzard was rly resilient against classic in the first place. Now just because we go classic everyone feel "entitled" to more stuff? And where does it end? TBC? Then we want WOTLK and CATA, are we going to relive the entire WoW while still getting new retail expanstions. I think blizzard wants to look ahead make new stuff. Sure they got loads of subs for classic but I don't think further old content will be as successful as classic was.
We will see what blizzard does, but I find it odd how ppl just automatically assume we will get TBC just because they finally gave in and made classic.
Who saw Esfands Uncles get killed in that drone strike??
going to get The Black Book for my warlock, people will pass on it because they want some better item heheheheee
Improved imp, fel intellect, improved firebolt + blackbook
This guy gets it. Machine gun imp is a glass wrecking ball
Oh yeah!
Stop saying tbc ... I don't want my character leaving me again 😭
Are the ZG class trinkets any good?
Satimy yes
I wish people would stop saying fury warriors want DFT so badly now. That's old news, furies don't want it anymore. MT Prio if needed for threat, otherwise Rogue > Hunter/Very Good Feral > Wars after everyone else.
You got the “voice” for commentary. I’m able to listen to you speak without getting cringe. Great work! Gambate!
You replace Blue Dragon in Sunwell, and even then it is a side grade.
How good is the darkmoon trinket: maelstrom on a fury warrior? As in does it replace blackhands breath or HoJ?
You dont replace hoj. Hoj replaces you
Always assumed that's the case. But what about the crit trinket then?
Warlock bwl trinket is pretty useless right ?
Not a single mention of Hunters. 😔
Hunters get Nightfall in phase 3 don't worry
We're gonna steal that Drakefang Talisman from the melee ;)
@@Target135 honestly, Hunter doesn't really need the Drakefang. Hunters don't benefit at all from any hit above 9%, and they can skill a hefty amount. It's really easy to get to the cap for them, so giving a hunter Drakefang is just really not worth it, and no guild with a hint of competetive thinking would give it to hunters.
@@FABIOof119 The set gives 2% from pants and shoulders, plus 2% from DB rings (3% if you can snatch a Band of Accuria from MC), plus 1% from Onyxia Pendant, which already puts you at a potential 6%. Specc into the 3% hit in Survival and you're golden.
Sure, you can substitute some items if you have the Drakefang Talisman, or specc into BM instead of Survival when you have it, it 100% is BiS for Hunters in P3. But still, other classes benefit more from it, and Hunters aren't the strongest DPS class to begin with. So even though the Hunter would use it, giving it to a Hunter over a Rogue or Warrior would be wasted. I would allow Hunters to roll on it in a pug group, but in a raid guild, it would be a waste of a good damage item.
@@FABIOof119 One more thing, since the 8 piece bonus of T2 adds a debuff to the target that won't be useful unless you have around 10 Hunters in your group, most guilds won't allow you to run around with 8/8 T2 anyway. Which means you can use different Items in some slots, like the bracers from Majordomo or even T1 gauntlets, which I actually consider to be stronger than T2 as a standalone item.
Calling double digit BWL vids before phase 3 is released.
The dark moon fair trinket allows for 100% mana regeneration to 'continue'. Since mp5 is always ticking, does the trinket not only provide mana regeneration from spirit to continue or?
It allows your mana to regen at the same speed as if you were not casting / in combat, its pretty great for classes like shadow priest who can struggle with mana sometimes. I wouldnt say that it'd make all mana hungry classes viable though, youll see more healers using it then anything else.
Yep you're right, mp5 continue while casting anyway so it only allows you to benefit from spirit regen while casting, Punkrat mention mp5 but pointless in that case. Plus, it's really not that good as it doesn't stack with talent/bonus tier set you already have (can't go above 100%)
@@axion3979 you don't answer the question ^^"
@@leopoldpol9663 'at the same speed as if you were not casting / in combat' aka 100% of your available mana regen.
@@axion3979 yep still not the question. He wanted to make sure the trinket was beneficial for spirit only cause Punkrat mentionned mp5 as well. So the answer is yes, mp5 continue while casting anyway
It’s a hate/love how everybody is already talking about TBC... it was the best years of my life and we all know it’s coming BUT I hope they give us casuals time to get geared in classic for at LEAST all of 2020. I honestly wouldn’t mind getting two chars to 60 in classic and release TBC in Jan 2022.
lmao 2022... keep that dream up the servers would be dead at the rates your predicting.. most of us already have at least two 60s and are running two MC's/onys as week on farm preparing for BWL , you can prob expect one year tops out of classic and ppl will want more.. pick up the speed.
@@grumpyoldman336 no... most people are not running 4 raids a week lol. you're the minority
@@grumpyoldman336 Yes please, we got the need for speed. Wish BWL was today.
2022? Try end of 2020. I haven't even focused on leveling my alts and I nearly have 2 lvl 60s. And that was super casual leveling.
So classic is progressing to TBC or is this just speculation?
so where is the hunter loot? I guess we want the 56 AP trinket there, like everyone else? I remember wanting the tier armor and some of the weapons, but I think one of them is a gun and If I play a troll I will want a bow instead.
yes I know, everything is a hunter weapon, but I'm talking the really useful stuff here.
The whole gear set is bis for you, hunters have it great
T2 and the crossbow are very strong
As a healer I can concur. I don't even get world buffs because we don't need it. There's no point healing more than necessary. For items, it's slightly different, though, as those are pretty useful for pvp!
Healers have to deal with everyones shit, they have to stay humble. lool
no spellcaster trinket. im not mad. no darkmoon for me, whew.
i feel personally attacked by this video as I have 60 mage 60 fury war and a 60 rogue
no love for the black book PepeHands
Can you not just make links to Skarm videos? What's the point of you even doing this?
Maelstrom card can be good for enh shaman too
All really good for hunter
Youre so wrong about these level 60 items being BiS in Black Temple. The tanking trinket is trash once you get TBC, there are items with 30+ and triple the defensive rating.
his videos have gotten really bad / pointless lately
@@TheExsniperxe Heard
He is pretty ignorant to these things overall...that being said even though he plays a lot his mentality is a lot more casual than hardcore raiding guilds and theory crafters
Oh boi, he is a vanilla fanboy, the will say EVERY SINGLE SHIT is the bis for every expansion...or things like that.
Lol. The reason people aer using it situationally in TBC (yes, they are) is because of the 5% block chance. Not the fucking 24 extra block or the def rating.
Slayer's Crest and Kiss of the Spider will actually be superior to DFT once Naxx hits. For both Warriors and Rogues atleast.
(Tho, DFT will most def be the best trinket when either of them are on CD)
Wait maelstorm works on druid?
Big PogChamp
Drake Fang Talisman also BiS for hunters ;)
everything is hunterloot
Hunters can fuck off 😂
It truly is BiS, but... if you have 3% hit from scope on your weapon, and 2% hit from the ZG head and leg enchants, and 2% from Band of Accuria, you're at 7%. You will surely get the remaining 2% hit from your tier set. It's still bis though because the AP is good and it allows you to use the +7 damage scope on your weapon instead, but that's a very small upgrade in comparison to what it can do for others. Hit enchants from ZG won't be out in phase 3 though, but you probably shouldn't take DFT just for phase 3.
Can the Natural Allignment Crystal work with ToEP?edit: Wowhead says it shares a CD.
You can't stack them
ive herd from good sources the ank darkmoon card still works in BFA
Did he say... Ret paladin PVE? :IIIIIIIIIIIIIII
I cant waaaait for my rejuv gem!!
You'll be the 8th healer in your guild to get it.
I regret, rolling a priest! Time to reroll.
Same, my first 60 in Classic is a priest, but I find myself playing my "alts" (mage and rogue, 2nd and 3rd characters to 60) significantly more often.
gj punkrat
6:35 "If you divide that in 2, that's like 22 spell power and 1% hit". I mean it literally is that when you divide it by 2, lol.
You do realize that with 2% proc rate you have to cast on average 50 times for it to proc... so it's pretty bad. With bad luck you can cast way over 100 times with no luck
But it runs 15 sec. A cast is only 2.5 sec or lower. So six tries during its run time. Including the possible overlap thats about 10% uptime. Bringing you from 15% to 100% this equals 85%/10 so about 8.5% points or a plus of over 50% (From 15% to average 23.5%). That's really good!
Honestly Loot Council is what makes ppl gquit over gear. I know its what all the "hardcore" guilds do but that's why its so prone to drama. DKP with bid caps is really an objective system. If you don't have DKP, what are you crying about?
at the start you say while you're in full tier 3 that becomes very efffective, very few players will ever be in tier 3 i think u meant to say full tier 2
maelstrom is actually shit for retri as its proc chance doesent increase with 2h ve 1h, also it was only good on private as it stacked with spellpower. hoj and 2% crit will stay bis until phase 6.
RIP Hunter
People keep saying TBC is going to follow on from class. Is there any prof of this or are people just assuming. Cause honestly why should it lead onto the next expansion.. when do they draw the line? In 8 years time it just turns into the retail we have now?? Surely they should all be stand alone games just like you get separated expansions as private servers.
Classic*
Something about his voice driving me crazy in a bad way
Why are you talking about TBC so much?
I'm able to em crit 4k on my shaman its insanely fun to global people
Well ofc priests will use the Blue Dragon card in BWL they just got it ;) whats up with "still use it in BWL" :) around 2:10
Think he meant in tbc
@@Ayayron_e3 ah yea i see now, was confused for a bit there :) thx
Howvmany hour's do you guys play a week?
Average atm 18 daily ....
0
maybe 8. Just raiding and farming some consumes. Classic got a liitle bit stale for me bec im not into pvp. Hope bwl arrives soon and i hope its not a nerfed version. I want a pve challenge
@@Zoy123 I hit 60 got some gear haven't played since
At this point maybe 2-3 hours a day if that, some days I don't even log in anymore if I have other stuff to do.
hunter one is garbage, for that matter most hunter gear is really hardly an upgrade. For example, dragonstalker shoulders has LESS agility than giantstalkers.
Yeah ikr, hunters really get left behind on gear upgrades. 8/8 Giantstalker is only surpassed by a full 8/8 Dragonstalker set, and even then, the upgrade is pretty minimal...
Ashjre'thul is the biggest upgrade we can hope for :P And I believe we finally get the 1H agility enchants in Phase 3
@@Falconcepts even then our 8 piece bonus from DS takes up a debuff slot so many raids wont let you wear 8/8.
@@wipeoutxl21 Eh, fuck 'em. I'd wear it anyway. I think the proc is relatively rare, and has a short duration... And I'd argue that 3-4 hunters benefiting from a 450ap buff for 7 secs is better for total raid DPS than whatever debuff gets knocked off for that short period.
You got Flamegor and Ebonroc backwards! :D
"Busted" means good now?
lol busted has always meant good.
@@russianbot2179 No, it hasn't. This is the first time I'm hearing this new slang. I find it amusing... but also really stupid. lol
When will people understand that Blue Dragon is crap? Priests/druids will have baseline 30% regen even while casting from t2, and paladins (should) have really low Spirit and purely focus on healing power, allowing them to spam r1/r2 FoL for literally no mana cost. Fights don't last as long as they used to back in vanilla...
As if spamming r1/r2 FoL was enough to keep someone alive in most raid boss encounters... 2% proc is not that bad considering most fights last between 1 to 3 minutes adding to that the additional spirit you get from buffs when it procs it does help, you dont need that much spirit to have a better efficiency than a SotS with it.
@@tyefs Recently I have been standing in lava in MC so I actually have something to heal. Maybe we raid differently.
@@HendricP Either you do 3% of the overall healing of your raid or your strategy is to be as safe as possible taking 5 hours to clean MC.
Nothing for hunters?
The whole tier set?
Every weapon basically
One thing you should notice by now if you're playing a Hunter... they were the red-headed step children of Vanilla WoW. TBC changes that, but yeah... I hear you. DFT is our BIS trinket too, but we'll never see it.
kristoph17 the trinket is only a slight upgrade over the Hunter trinket we have now though. If you got band of accura you’re way over hit too.
Why do you keep talking as if the burning Crusade is a definite
Classic is everything before TBC. Tbc is not classic.
Anything is classic if u add the word classic. Have fun playing CLASSIC tbc :D
You skipped the heroism deck
Compare this gear to BFA where each raid tier all your gear is made redundant. You get it all. And then all your work is made pointless.
And what does feral tanks get?
Shit none.
maybe new music on videos?
Didn't mention rogue +20% poison proc trinket Bruh
Because it’s bad :)
Could you use maelstrom trinket in fury tank?
Hey guys angel with another dislike
You know that for youtube likes and dislikes both works the same way. You just promote video to be shown to even more ppl :D
Im soooooo glad I don't understand wow like I do other games. I don't find myself leveling from script. I love leveling lol!
#ALTOHOLICS
The hunter trinket is so bad, it'a not even worth mentioning lmfao!!! No hunter love 😥
Exactly what mages need, trinkets that help them with PVP.
Rejuv Gem is Shaman prio. Specifically my Shaman
Druid prio*
You never mention shadow priests.
Theres very few items for shadow priests and you usually compete with locks. But they're there dont worry
we are alone bro..
Wtf they arent BROKEN?! damn
There is little in BWL for Fury DPS. (And no, DFT should not go to us) Then again, we are pretty decked out as it is.
I am a hunter and Drake Fang Talisman is BiS for me, even with the 1% dodge, but I’m sure melee will priority b/c of the dodge.
It's not the dodge melee get it for, it's the 2% hit.
You keep saying intel BC? Lvl 60 is the cap did not know they was going to go up to lvl 70
Nothing for hunters lol
Ashjre'thul is an amazing crossbow that drops off chromaggus
Drake fang talisman
Angmar3 thanks guy
Melee dps for DFT? All physical DPS wants that, Mr. wouldn't progress far at all without Tranq shot.
Uhm... No cool stuff for hunters??
I really don't understand guild drama involving items...just get a dkp system running and it won't happen anymore.
I thought procs didn't work when for druids when shifted to bear or cat .
Correct if it's a 'chance on hit' however it states it as 'to your melee target' so it works
@@tomdilly3230 Hand of Justice wouldn't work then
It should because its 'chance on melee hit' not 'chance on hit' via a weapon with the effect.
Dps on top of the dps meter doesn't need that better gear, so the logic is flawed, that the better dps, should get the better gear, when in fact, its the shitty dps that should have prio on the gear
Why do you keep mentioning tbc? I hope to god they don’t continue the game into tbc.
But they will anyway
I wasn't bc. Better pvp IMO. More interesting class balance.
They will, because enough players will want to pay them money for it.
Yeah. I'm absolutely certain classic will go straight into bc. When it's time of course.
At this point all I want is tbc, getting burnt on classic as pvp endgame is not enjoyable for me I prefer arena