Skarner Rework: How a Monstrous Mess became a Modern Masterpiece

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  • Опубликовано: 24 ноя 2024

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  • @NickyBoi
    @NickyBoi  Месяц назад +190

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      @kent_be_yours Месяц назад +2

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      @duartegomes3074 Месяц назад +2

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      @epiceg9464 Месяц назад +2

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    • @mcrarburger
      @mcrarburger Месяц назад +1

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      @ardo311 Месяц назад

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  • @Dumbs
    @Dumbs Месяц назад +1114

    Where Skarner vi- Oh... Uuuh... Where LPP?

  • @satriahadi1893
    @satriahadi1893 Месяц назад +765

    OMG THE SKARNER VIDEO IS REAL, I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST A MYTH

  • @PrehistoricYordL
    @PrehistoricYordL Месяц назад +62

    One way to explain Skarners massive size is his age. Being the last of his kind and for so long opened Skarner up to more resources and food, making him grow into the massive thing he is now. For all we know, these new brackern, while although not being small, might have still been not that large.

    • @Garnet-ec5is
      @Garnet-ec5is Месяц назад +4

      That maybe true but we havent see another bracker, so probably they are usually not that Big but we cant tell. Skarner it our only reference, we dont even now if there are still bracker in the world or even ancient ones. Bracker are a unique race/species of LoL the arent minotaurs or "mermeids". So my point is we event know if skarner is special in his own kind

    • @fran13r
      @fran13r 5 часов назад

      that doesn't explain his massive size
      you could say the same thing and make him 10 meters tall and it would make as much sense
      he's that big cause rule of cool, that's pretty much it

  • @Angel-eu7pt
    @Angel-eu7pt Месяц назад +260

    lore proposal-
    keep his new lore nearly intact, BUT change this: Skarner STILL is made out of what powers hextech, and make it that his fall to paranoia and violence, be that , piltover simply hunted his kind to extinction, while he was still the only one that saw the good in humanity, hes also the only one who survived the genocide of his kind, thus he fears his ixtal to become the same as piltover or the other empires, and hates the outside for what they personally did to his people, piltover still have hextech cause they have the bodies of the species of skarner to mine the crystals out of but still go looking into ixtal for other resources, and skarner has his protector turned oppressor role be a trauma related thing, instead of just becoming mad seeing what humanity is capable of.
    I think that the lore of arcane could be played alongside what skarner already had, i mean its never disclosed HOW jayce or any character get the crystals, and whoever has a handle on that trade has to ever disclose that fact in-universe, unless the hex crystals in arcane canon have some other quality im not aware of that would make their originally a biological origin incompatible.
    also, we could say that skarner is just so big cause he got to live longer than most his companions, like lobsters or crabs.
    quick and dirty lore experiment, but genuinely unless arcane is gonna reveal some DARK secret about hex crystals i don't see why skarners original lore should be at all incompatible with arcane canon, and also giving him a twist of tragedy ontop of his usually caring nature, is like primo material for making him more likeable! in the lore department seriously feels as though riot dropped the ball.

    • @BooelGaymes
      @BooelGaymes Месяц назад +18

      the lore of arcane is going the rune war side. the only thing skarner need is a friend and a turn his race being dead here too into canon to open up his human side just like the original

    • @x-nimator9997
      @x-nimator9997 Месяц назад +21

      So far the only thing arcane said about the hex crystals is that there are voices inside the stone...A LOT of voices. And they all screeched in terror whenever they were gonna explode. So in one way or another, there is something alive in hextech

    • @davidawakim5473
      @davidawakim5473 Месяц назад

      Wish Riot had you on their team!

    • @Moonbow826
      @Moonbow826 Месяц назад +5

      Alternative idea... KEEP THE OLD SKARNER LORE!

    • @janbertguerrero6988
      @janbertguerrero6988 Месяц назад +6

      Riot needs to stop making their VERY FEW kind monsters, evil.

  • @kavanjohnston4821
    @kavanjohnston4821 Месяц назад +408

    I heard that Schafrillas. I heard it. I know I did. You can't fool me Nicholas.

    • @toolittlescovil3811
      @toolittlescovil3811 Месяц назад +18

      2 schafrillas references in ten seconds... LETS GO

    • @miguelcapetillo7160
      @miguelcapetillo7160 Месяц назад +7

      THAT WAS HIS MISTA-!

    • @RoloRolla
      @RoloRolla Месяц назад

      THAT WAS HIS STEAK ​@@miguelcapetillo7160

    • @karimspahic745
      @karimspahic745 Месяц назад +1

      Schafrillas as in the youtuber that reviews the cartoons, when?

    • @karimspahic745
      @karimspahic745 Месяц назад +1

      Schafrillas as in the youtuber that reviews the cartoons, when?

  • @petersimone3759
    @petersimone3759 Месяц назад +1072

    we got skarner vid before gta 6

    • @eagan_1902
      @eagan_1902 Месяц назад +2

      Ong

    • @snorr656
      @snorr656 Месяц назад +11

      I hate this meme

    • @iwanomorgan6557
      @iwanomorgan6557 Месяц назад +6

      Say something original

    • @chomosuke0720
      @chomosuke0720 Месяц назад +1

      Imagine how sad y'all are to cry over an overused meme

    • @Kanoog
      @Kanoog 16 дней назад +1

      We got these over used comments before GTA 6.

  • @f3rbus
    @f3rbus Месяц назад +25

    I agree so much with this video, dropping his old lore for “outside world bad” and making him another angry deity of sorts kinda just boxes him in with Voli imo. His old lore had so much more emotion to it. I’m really surprised they didn’t do some sort of crystalline skin for him to commemorate old Skarner but here’s hoping they make it in the future at some point.

  • @dappereyeball3456
    @dappereyeball3456 Месяц назад +239

    Skarner video will neve- *spits cereal*

  • @c0smosus
    @c0smosus Месяц назад +53

    the trinkets on skarners arms seem like an oversight in his design when in his splash art he is the size of a small mountain. those bands on the sides of his arms are so huge its just the metal ring is like the size of a building.

  • @maidsiku4139
    @maidsiku4139 Месяц назад +291

    The thing that bothers me the most about the rework is that they said that Skarner's original concept wasn't unique. It was just a crystal scorpion.
    WHAT DO YOU MEAN JUST A CRYSTAL SCORPION? That's fucking stupid, I want more Crystal Scorpions. What the hell wasn't unique about it?

    • @MrIljuha2000
      @MrIljuha2000 Месяц назад +69

      Apparently crystal scorpion is less unique than a basic scorpion with more than one stinger😂

    • @imStorm3r
      @imStorm3r Месяц назад +35

      they just wanna make the league lore more family friendly by removing genocide, organ harvesting and racism from piltover's lore
      is demacia's hate towards mages next? who knows

    • @dieptrieu6564
      @dieptrieu6564 Месяц назад +9

      Eh, just because you want a crystal scorpion doesn't make it unique. His new design at least make him look a bit more monsterlike than just a random animal.

    • @itchyballsl
      @itchyballsl Месяц назад

      it was ugly purple rock lol

    • @PurplesttCoffee
      @PurplesttCoffee Месяц назад +30

      ​@@dieptrieu6564He sure looks more like a monster, but his visuals are way too cluttered for anyone that doesn't know the lore.
      Old Skarner was like a forgettable pokemon, while current Skarner is like an MMO mob you'd farm for rare loot.

  • @Mister_Kage
    @Mister_Kage Месяц назад +31

    The worst thing is that we didn't get a "Classic" skin :[

  • @SamElZombie
    @SamElZombie Месяц назад +514

    another proof that riot is the best company to ever exist, not only did they make the least popular champ even less popular, but they also retconned 2 regions worth of lore in the process.

    • @madnard8744
      @madnard8744 Месяц назад +59

      He's the most pick banned champion at worlds and is standing in a 5% pickrate rn

    • @danielbarnes1241
      @danielbarnes1241 Месяц назад

      Just give it a second. The second he gets nerfed for being good again he'll drop right back down to 0.5 like he's done like 3 times in the past couple months​@@madnard8744

    • @freeversion825
      @freeversion825 Месяц назад +7

      He became a beast in pro play

    • @dieptrieu6564
      @dieptrieu6564 Месяц назад +42

      @@madnard8744 Yeah, these salty people never realized that play rate can fluctuate between patches. What matter is how healthy the kit would be.

    • @itchyballsl
      @itchyballsl Месяц назад

      ???? bro he is legit the most played jger right now
      but i guess he isnt in gold

  • @Yvy-temp
    @Yvy-temp Месяц назад +55

    "Icathia using BetterHelp"
    That might be the stronger laugh I've had in MONTHS OH MY LORD DJSJHASHAHJAHAOABJDSBDJDJD

  • @AymarMaluenda
    @AymarMaluenda Месяц назад +11

    Thank you so much for voicing my main concern with this resort
    It still bafles me that they moved him to Ixtal, one of the regions currently exploited by Piltover, but erasing hextech

  • @jumpxingion
    @jumpxingion Месяц назад +32

    5:50 Wake up NickyBoi, it's 2024, not 2014

  • @dewaunwarren1
    @dewaunwarren1 Месяц назад +64

    I miss the movement speed and build diversity we used to have.
    You used to be able to go full movement speed, full AP, or bruiser. But now all his ratio skill with health so you just have to build tank.
    And the E having a fixed movement speed you is just a slap in the face.

    • @HeTaLiA152
      @HeTaLiA152 Месяц назад +2

      I also miss bruiser skarner where i trick someone into thr jungle and then kill them so fast they are left confused

    • @ratio1037
      @ratio1037 29 дней назад

      you do not have to build health specific items. it also helps that the majority of damage items that syngerize well with skarner come with health. ap? protobelt liandries. bruiser? titanitc steraks etc etc. full movement speed was just a meme tbh his old scalings might as well have not existed. the "build diversity" was borderline a lie and carried by mains who just pilot skarner well anyway

    • @googloocraft12
      @googloocraft12 17 дней назад +1

      I loved to play old skarner tank, just cc to death everyone and run fast

    • @dragondestroyer8465
      @dragondestroyer8465 2 дня назад

      I may be late but full attack speed Skarner was the play

  • @MarkD5678
    @MarkD5678 Месяц назад +5

    3:18 if I had to speculate, maybe something to do with his then-passive adding his capture points in the Jungle. Deleting his old passive from the game could theoretically require fine combing the map files of Summoner's Rift or Howling Abyss to revise any lines of code that interacted with the passive.

    • @Tuskor130
      @Tuskor130 5 дней назад +2

      Load-bearing brackern

  • @TheEphemeralEternity
    @TheEphemeralEternity 13 дней назад +6

    The only interaction I wanted to see with his new kit, was ulting someone and dragging them away under the wall by comboing e. Other champs (ksante) do it; idk why they couldnt let the giant, earthbending scorpion cosplay one of his wormy cousins from the Tremors franchise, but it would have been so fun (not to mention ridiculously terrifying). 💔

  • @louiskostasredojevic
    @louiskostasredojevic Месяц назад +35

    The Natlan music truly hits hard with Skarner rework !
    Thank you once more editor !

  • @matiasaleo5498
    @matiasaleo5498 Месяц назад +54

    I was one of the very few Skarner players of LAS, and when Riot showed his rework ...
    I hated it.
    He doesn't feel like Skarner anymore, she's not the infinite mana monster who spams Q and CCs all day, he's more lile playing a Sion without the infinite stacks of health
    but after playing it, I really liked it, a lot!
    but... I still like more pre-rework.
    the enemy team never expected the damage from a Skarner with Conqueror and Trinity, or a fully tank Skarner with Iceborn guanlet.
    but now? he builts only like a tank, if you want to use him perfectly you have to use always Deadman Grasp with Heartsteel and Sterakk.
    I love Skarner rework but ... Prerework is unique.

  • @Nankeroo
    @Nankeroo Месяц назад +190

    I'm writing down my thoughts before the video has even premiered, and I'll probably edit my comment once I've watched it.
    I used to main Skarner before his rework, and he was BY FAR my favourite champion both gameplay and character wise, but the rework has just killed him for me.
    I'm not the biggest fan of his new character, as he's just a brooding edgelord that's not-... very compelling, and he also just looks-... kind of ugly. (Don't even get me started on how they RUINED Earthrune, which was BY FAR my favourite of his skins...)
    The thing that killed him for me is that they turned him from a speedy little guy that could build VIRTUALLY ANYTHING (you could be an AP midlaner, a top lane bruiser, a tank, a support, a mosquito, etc, etc) and use ALMOST ANY RUNE POSSIBLE into a generic, slow moving tank! It was genuinely so fun to be able to adapt to any situation, purely because of how weird all of his scalings/gameplay were. Do you teamfight a lot? Go get a Redemption! Need some more bulk? Go get any tank item! Need just a tiny bit more distance? Protobelt it up! He also just had so many random AD, AP or health scalings on pretty much everything (or at least 2 of the 3), and now he's just a generic tank with basically nothing but health scalings. Sure, his current ultimate and W have SOME AP scalings, and his Q has some AD scalings, but they're just not enough to give him any build variety whatsoever... You're actively trolling if you build AP or AD items on current Skarner (outside of Sterak's and Liandries), while it was perfectly fine on the old one!
    He's also just so clunky now, with his E slowing him down to 100 MS and slowly ramping up in speed, and his Q having a LITERAL SELF ROOT. He used to be a fast moving and incredibly sticky champion, and now he's just a slow moving generic tank. (Why does his E not work like Nune W anyway???)
    I dunno, maybe I just don't like modern champion design. I just wish Riot still had some incredibly weird stuff like old Skarner. I hate how streamlined it all is now.
    Edit: I can see most of your points, but saying that Skarner finally has role and build diversity is just flat out wrong. Most of that purely came from him being EXTREMELY overtuned. He already HAD all of that, it just wasn't noticeable whatsoever due to people NOT playing him. Hell, there's a reason quite a few Skarner one-tricks just flat out quit when he got reworked, because you couldn't be creative with him anymore! (Most notably, FACECHECKSKARNER)

    • @mythicalsuperdolphins2955
      @mythicalsuperdolphins2955 Месяц назад +33

      Yeah i couldnt put it in words mysekf but hes just not fun anymore to me either like its neat they updated him but he feels so bland now his build variety is non existent now and the ways to play him are basically one or 2 different ways hes just so boring

    • @phoenixflamegames1
      @phoenixflamegames1 Месяц назад +22

      As someone who used to play him a lot myself, I really liked his movement speed build but that no longer exists 😭

    • @bitfreak7447
      @bitfreak7447 Месяц назад +6

      @@phoenixflamegames1for real man

    • @Nankeroo
      @Nankeroo Месяц назад +6

      @@mythicalsuperdolphins2955 That's my issue as well. He's just really boring now.

    • @nicoaraeduard3317
      @nicoaraeduard3317 Месяц назад +2

      Womp womp the comunity should’ve voted someone else

  • @ЖеняСердюк-й7б
    @ЖеняСердюк-й7б Месяц назад +108

    23:15 WHAT DO YOU MEAN BUILD DIVERSITY??? Old Skarner was able to build ANYTHING. He had AP, AD, brusier, on-hit, lethality, support, movement speed, just ANY item in the game old Skarner could build. And now its just, ugh... hp? Couple item different here and there, but it all feels the same

    • @vaskopoh9512
      @vaskopoh9512 Месяц назад +9

      At the time of making the vid, new Skarner could build many items (nerfed obviously). Old Skarner "could" build anything because the guys who played him, played just him and just makeshifted him into certain roles given the scraps Rito had left for them.

    • @ЖеняСердюк-й7б
      @ЖеняСердюк-й7б Месяц назад +4

      @@vaskopoh9512 only thing I can remember is crit/lethality builds on PBE which didn't even last a week until they were removed

    • @howmanyshrimps
      @howmanyshrimps Месяц назад +14

      ​@@vaskopoh9512do you even hear what you're saying? old skarner players makeshifting the character into certain roles with items is exactly the point. it's p much the definition of build diversity lmao
      old skarner did have build diversity while new skarner has only ever built tank items; end of story. his build path is pretty much exactly the same as it was when the vgu dropped and guess what, the 1 patch when he was overbuffed doesn't count as him being able to build many items because that was literally due to both his scalings and base numbers being overtuned and getting hotfixed not even a full patch later.

    • @vaskopoh9512
      @vaskopoh9512 Месяц назад

      @@howmanyshrimps Old Skarner's "build diversity" is proxy of him being dogshit at everything. The moment he ever got buffed, he was so unhealthy that he always got insta nerfed back : D

    • @d2rat
      @d2rat Месяц назад +10

      @@vaskopoh9512 I played him. You could literally build anything you wanted, full crit, full heal/shield, ap , ad , bruiser, oneshot, tank and it would all work. Lethality was one of the most broken builds too

  • @rolay7730
    @rolay7730 Месяц назад +14

    I used to play him casually before the rework, but I can't care about him after. He needed an ability and visual rework, but I hated what they did with his lore and theme. One of the few things I wanted was for them to keep his crystals. They could change everything else, but why change that? The team said they made the change because crystals are more associated with healing. Which is stupid. Crystals are literally natural knives that are sharper than anything else in nature. Unlucky cavers sometimes die because they fall on razor-sharp gypsum and bleed out. Fire is associated with death and destruction, yet they didn't force Milio to be a water mage to heal.

  • @mememologies7363
    @mememologies7363 Месяц назад +3

    I feel like making him similar to the retcon but keeping that still remaining sadness due to his near blind trust in humans to do the right thing, even if it means he’s the last guardian that remains, even if means his body will slowly be corrupted by humans, when his heart remains pure yet sad in a human-feeling way. An ancient being acting as a guardian, yet forever tainted slowly by human cruelty even if he’ll never stop believing in the possibility of human kindness.

  • @NuageElCloud
    @NuageElCloud Месяц назад +3

    I was a huge fan of old skarner and i was kinda sad about the reworked one, but after some times i really started to enjoy it, also seeing my scorpion boooy being like a loooot played in competitive league is making me happy

  • @Prosto-Ban
    @Prosto-Ban Месяц назад +2

    You are so right in the part where you say that there is not even a hint in his old design for his inner kindness. Look at bastion from overwatch, he is just a scary looking turret but the little bird following him around is enough to hint at his kindness. I thing the old skarner design should of had a little flower somewhere, just to show that he is ancient and kind.

  • @Cabbage1337
    @Cabbage1337 Месяц назад +66

    I dislike hearing you say that he 'finally' had role and build diversity when he very much had both before, coming from a former Skarner onetrick. You had to experiment to find how to make them work but I played Skarner in every role, granted not often as ADC but I did do it, and between tank, bruiser, AP draintank, attack speed skirmisher, CC bot support, you name it he could absolutely do it. I think largely my biggest issue with the rework is just how clunky he feels to the original, so slow and heavy (which yes I understand is part of the theme) but it just doesn't feel the same at all to me. I especially get bothered by the ult because previously hit ult dragged people sort of like a vehicle recovery truck, with the tether having them loosely trail behind you, whereas now his body remains stiff, as do the impaled targets, which just feels so weird to me. For lore and design I do agree overall it feels like an improvement to fit with the modern League lore but the gameplay is the thing that hurts me the most

    • @crittomato7043
      @crittomato7043 Месяц назад +5

      Yeah, lore and design fots, but gameplay is arse, kinda feels like Aatrox rework to me (i dont like riven wannabe)
      "I miss my kind" is a quote I will be saying when people ask about skarner rework😢

    • @Dracon350
      @Dracon350 Месяц назад +3

      for the average player, Skarner was most certainly NOT a flex pick prior to his rework. nobody but one-tricks would think to take him anywhere but jungle. the more adventurous might've taken him top, but that was it.

    • @infernomaster1030
      @infernomaster1030 Месяц назад +3

      @@crittomato7043 dude I hate to be that guy but old aatrox was EASILY the least fun champ to ever touch the game. The new one CLEARS so incredibly hard its not even funny.

    • @fosterbennington6405
      @fosterbennington6405 Месяц назад +1

      @@infernomaster1030New aatrox is just riven 2 I will never not be mad about this

    • @infernomaster1030
      @infernomaster1030 Месяц назад +2

      @@fosterbennington6405 No New Aatrox is a literal bossfight. Giant, telegraphed, sweeping attacks (Q), moves that set up into said attacks (W and E), and even a second phase (Ult). It is a very well thought out character design that sticks to its theme and Riot absolutely cooked with it.
      Calling it Riven 2 just cause he has 3 casts of 1 move is so corny, especially when those 3 casts do entirely different things and force them to play in entirely different ways.

  • @slbhugomarques2
    @slbhugomarques2 Месяц назад +20

    A modern masterpiece is wild

  • @SpiceCh
    @SpiceCh Месяц назад +9

    You know what, with Crystalis skins being a thing, it boggles my mind that Skarner wasn't the first champion to get one.
    Also yes, old Skarner was incredibly fun. Especially with a cloud dragon soul. I dragged a hapless Ezreal all the way from under the blue inner mid turret to Red Buff just a month before his rework and I don't think I've ever laughed as much in years.

  • @Woodie-d6d
    @Woodie-d6d Месяц назад +3

    The new Skarner lore reminds me of (Earth 616) Beast’s lore where he just gets paranoid to the point of committing war-crimes for mutant-kind

  • @PeachyBlueStar
    @PeachyBlueStar Месяц назад +37

    Where skarne- oh

  • @kafelekpodogowy7185
    @kafelekpodogowy7185 Месяц назад +69

    Every time i play new Skarner I miss the old one more and more... and yeah i like the Natlan music in background, fits well.

  • @Azarian
    @Azarian Месяц назад +4

    Wish you'd of talked about his new theme some, it's so flipping good. The start of it feels like a fucking METROID boss which is so radical and it has such an imposing feel to it.

  • @Zorph27
    @Zorph27 Месяц назад +2

    His design reminds me of the leviathans from Disney's Atlantis movie, love that movie.

  • @KSynical
    @KSynical Месяц назад +5

    better title: Skarner Rework - How a Monstrous Mess became a Modern Dumpsterfire

  • @danilosVEVO
    @danilosVEVO Месяц назад +67

    DID I HEAR A ROCK AND STONE?

  • @icyotaku
    @icyotaku Месяц назад +4

    As a Skarner main, your title pissed me off. As a Skarner main, I 100% agreed with everything u said in the video.

  • @mr.morningstar8350
    @mr.morningstar8350 Месяц назад +9

    Huh, it's pleasantly surprising how well Natlans music fits Skarner.

  • @aliven9623
    @aliven9623 Месяц назад +4

    5:52 "British painter who died 10 years ago..."
    Nicky is still spiritual living in season 5 of League

  • @huohuostan
    @huohuostan Месяц назад +12

    The natlan ost fits skarner so well

  • @Baldtolo
    @Baldtolo Месяц назад +3

    Crazy seeing 10:43 and instead of thinking "that's a Big Hero 6 reference" thinking "that's a Schaffrillas reference"

  • @supremeoverlordvader5552
    @supremeoverlordvader5552 Месяц назад +1

    Thank you for providing source to used music, I really appreciate it

  • @khkhamir
    @khkhamir Месяц назад +4

    Imagine if skarner and chogath were brothers and chogath got corrupted by the void and that was the reason for skarner paranoia with this my boy cho could have a story

  • @GH-pf6mw
    @GH-pf6mw Месяц назад +3

    i wasn't expecting the natlan ost, it fits really well.

  • @wakdofpokeruto
    @wakdofpokeruto Месяц назад +1

    Brother I have not seen the video yet, but that Drawing in the thumbnail is crazy, cheers to the artist, amazing work

  • @kurjao
    @kurjao Месяц назад +2

    Ixtal was beginning to look a bit *too* comfy so they threw in the freighter ship-sized, earth bending Scorpion that can hear you using the bathroom at 3 in the morning.

  • @Canvasation
    @Canvasation Месяц назад +2

    I definitely enjoyed playing the new Skarner as more of a support than playing him top, but that's mostly due to his engaging tools while being an excellent support to both peel and disengage with as well. However all the diverse scaling he had and continued to lose over the years in his old kit were so fun to play and make fun builds with.
    Way before the spires were superglued to his kit, I loved building him AP in toplane due to how absolutely bonkers his AP scaling and burst was, it was such a fun feeling in the game of making my opponent go "Wtf is that damage" without resorting to dragging them under tower or to allies, it was just your ability to stack his old passive and having his ult do so much damage.
    During the era of spires however, the most fun I could have was building him AD/AP hybrid with attack speed to allow his Q CD to be almost instant, immediately shredding someone if they got hit with E, putting them in the blender, though that was also short lived when they made his Q CD longer and do max HP damage.
    I'm gonna miss my boy though, next to old Aatrox and especially old Mordekaiser, it's just another rework that alienated me from an old champ I used to love.

  • @Kirbykid69
    @Kirbykid69 Месяц назад +1

    It’s funny that as this is coming out he is now back in the meta seeing a lot of picks at worlds

  • @Duothimir
    @Duothimir 25 дней назад +20

    The issue is that he isn't Skarner anymore. They Aatrox'd him. He's been deleted and replaced with a character who bears superficial similarities at best.

  • @monsterimo
    @monsterimo Месяц назад +34

    THE SKARNER VIDEO.... THE SKARNER VIDEO IS REEEEAAAAL!!!!
    CAN WE GET MUCH HIGHER!!!!! (SO HIIIGH)
    OH OH OH... OH OH OH!!!

  • @stef-mad
    @stef-mad Месяц назад +1

    Hooray the Skarner vid! Really happy to see another one about him.
    I will say that his VGU is a 50/50 case his lore could be better but i can see what riot were going for, gameplay brings the vibe of making a presence in fights and technically his old abilities are still there (like q and e now into one) Will forever miss his more speedy and faster reaction to his abilities and the more damage potential he had.
    I will however say that his options are still limited to tank no matter what and that was a mistake from riot.
    Edit: The fact they did not bring the "Skar skar skarner" line back when he is in bush is a crime!

  • @eagan_1902
    @eagan_1902 Месяц назад +5

    Honestly
    I N E E D his E to scale with movespeed
    Sion ult too i don't know why that doesn't work outside of well
    Bausen

  • @flurry1409
    @flurry1409 Месяц назад +5

    11:35 SPROUT AMONG THE THICKET RAHAHAHAA

  • @royalty2773
    @royalty2773 Месяц назад +1

    I like the use of the Natlan music in the background!

  • @dewaunwarren1
    @dewaunwarren1 Месяц назад +34

    They killed his lore, his movement speed, and his built diversity.
    But at least he looks pretty now.

    • @jackthelarterns675
      @jackthelarterns675 Месяц назад +1

      i won't call it pretty
      he is less ugly for sure but....pretty is too much for 2 years of reworking

  • @JeancarlosRPerez
    @JeancarlosRPerez Месяц назад +2

    Honey, wake up!
    The Niky Girl made another of those RUclipss!

  • @exavier5616
    @exavier5616 Месяц назад +19

    If I say when skarner video will this get pushed back a week?

  • @3nd1ess77
    @3nd1ess77 Месяц назад +11

    Skarners gameplay design was NEVER bad. It was very very good! We was just out of tune in some areas and Riot absolutely butchered the job of finetuning.

  • @RawRaio
    @RawRaio Месяц назад +56

    More like a monsterous mess into a balancing mess-
    I do mess old Skarner's game play a lot more than I probably should as a veteran Karma mid player...

    • @leonelgosciniak632
      @leonelgosciniak632 Месяц назад

      Yes, absolutely.

    • @leme2106
      @leme2106 Месяц назад +9

      Old skarner was an ancient relic that should have remained untouched. I miss him😢

    • @LabRatz-Ivor
      @LabRatz-Ivor Месяц назад +9

      I mean yeah but counterpoint: he's actually fun now

    • @x-nimator9997
      @x-nimator9997 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@LabRatz-Ivor fun af indeed, but "hes not unique", as if having an useless passive and 0 damage was unique enough

    • @madnard8744
      @madnard8744 Месяц назад

      His passive is absolutely not useless, it cleans camps easily znd when fused with the red pet it can be massively useful​@@x-nimator9997

  • @pspdude2316
    @pspdude2316 3 дня назад

    the absolute funnest thing about old skarner was when someone got him on aram you knew there were gonna be big team fights for the crystals even though no one knew what they did

  • @acenimatic8493
    @acenimatic8493 Месяц назад +1

    The intro is just PERFECT.

  • @pokfen1812
    @pokfen1812 Месяц назад +21

    Gameplay, visuals, design and lore would be really great... for a new champion.
    For Skarner all things above could work... if not for turning him from victim to victimizer in lore.

  • @yellongip879
    @yellongip879 Месяц назад +7

    HE HAS FULFILLED THE PROMISE!!

  • @NovenaEntidad
    @NovenaEntidad Месяц назад +4

    For me was a Dissapointment because he was my main and now he doesn't have any of the old kit and story

  • @jaimeruiz7837
    @jaimeruiz7837 9 дней назад +1

    I never played old Skarner, now when team needs a tank and I’m jg. I pick him

  • @sedarium5307
    @sedarium5307 Месяц назад +76

    NOT A GAMEPLAY MASTERPIECE THAT’S FOR SURE

  • @rehakadam5566
    @rehakadam5566 Месяц назад +4

    I am immeasurably disapointed in the gameplay changes, it killed the build variety, totally masacred.
    You could built full ap, lethality, support, full move speed, bruiser or full tank with old Skarner. I feel like i have to play him that way.

  • @rixserd
    @rixserd Месяц назад

    They’ll probably give us “traditional” skarner by way of the that crystal skin line in the mythic shop and hope that we don’t notice

  • @thelostlucario
    @thelostlucario Месяц назад +1

    It’s been 3,000 years, but finally it is here… the almighty Skarner video.

  • @TwoBadYe
    @TwoBadYe 22 дня назад +1

    the nostalgia whipsplash i got from 20:24 is unreal lmao

  • @fran13r
    @fran13r 5 часов назад

    I was listening to this in the background while playing and was confused for a second about why there was natlan music while i was in mondstadt.

  • @bigchungbus5756
    @bigchungbus5756 Месяц назад

    22:30 okay, i've always thought you were a pretty good youtuber, pretty comedic, pretty in the know.
    but adding in this single random ass joke brought a tear to my eye Nicky, you are the greatest.

  • @CarterTheSharpest
    @CarterTheSharpest Месяц назад +2

    SKARNER VIDEO!!!

  • @davidawakim5473
    @davidawakim5473 Месяц назад

    All skarner needed was one cinematic with Neeko and they would have been best friends

  • @huggelion
    @huggelion Месяц назад

    i think Brackern being lion turtles from atla means that the planet is no longer in danger from anything

  • @ergi8783
    @ergi8783 Месяц назад +1

    You thought this was a Skarner video but it was actually me Cassiopia plushie

  • @Sshok3r
    @Sshok3r Месяц назад +1

    Old Skarner is in the game, but you can play it anymore..
    I think it is becoming a meme, the Nicky "I love it!.. BUT" there is always a "but" xD

  • @mryous2543
    @mryous2543 Месяц назад +1

    We all know Arcane vgu gonna be singed bro he literally looks like a mummy that uses drugs

  • @reptil11
    @reptil11 3 дня назад

    I used to play old skarner and it was really cool imo, the rework made me forget he exists

  • @Zergzilla
    @Zergzilla Месяц назад

    As a fellow godzilla and monster fan i can see the point with scarner's size becouse the titanic creature fits more to godzilla in the MV for being a gardian of nature and earth, but with scarner being the size of a house is more approchabe and feel more personal. Btw nice vid :)

  • @joelat3343
    @joelat3343 Месяц назад +1

    Not worth loosing the lore for

  • @AssistoTudo
    @AssistoTudo Месяц назад +1

    I loved old skarner, got my Mastery 7 like 7 years ago. I remember predator + ghost + an active item I don't remember the name and zooming towards one single enemy, pulling them and dragging their asses to my team, if a person didn't have bandana or purify they were dead. Loved his speed, Q spam and the amount of CC you could spam on his E, while getting move speed and attack speed... I barely play nowadays, but i'm sure I would like the old one more. For people that care about lore (I don't like to accompany, but I do like when things reference each other and make sense) it feels stupid that they purposefuly make themselves have a REALLY rough time just because they decided to change EVERYTHING ABOUT HIM, which fucked up a huge chunk of the entire story of their fictional world...
    Oh, but the fact that he can be many more positions other than jungle now is really cool, because you wouldn't EVER see him anywhere else... Which only got WORSE when they introduced the stupid crystal years ago

  • @arsenicyogurt
    @arsenicyogurt Месяц назад +9

    The kit is... fine, mostly, but it feels so fucking awkward so often. The Q times out weirdly quickly, the E carry stops weirdly quickly, but the absolute worst part is not being able to do anything while ulting. Even beyond the clunky forced stop while casting, I really don't like how having someone in ult locks you out of being able to auto or E. You can only reposition and W, which feels goofy, to say the least.

    • @Dracon350
      @Dracon350 Месяц назад

      guaranteeing a stun right out of a suppression wouldn't be exactly fair, and you're locked out of Q because you now have the potential to lock up to three champions down in your ult. Skarner has been arguably turned into a teamfighting champ versus a duelist with a pick mechanic.

    • @arsenicyogurt
      @arsenicyogurt Месяц назад +2

      @Dracon350 chain ccing isn't anything new, including knockups (the only uncleansable cc). Morgana, Sion, Nautilus, Gragas - plenty of champs can dump 3+ seconds of cc with only the tools in their own kits, including some that can lock down multiple champs under the right conditions. It's bizarre that Skarner is an exception for some reason.

    • @Havyyto_
      @Havyyto_ Месяц назад +4

      @@Dracon350 ride that thing harder and you'll get pregnant bruh, new skarner aint that good

    • @Dracon350
      @Dracon350 Месяц назад

      @@Havyyto_ ??? okay, bozo lmao. he's fine, but i don't see the need to insult somebody over a different opinion.

    • @Dracon350
      @Dracon350 Месяц назад

      @@arsenicyogurt Malphite only has his ult, Sion's ult is a lot more committal, Nautilus' ult is single target and the rest of his kit is designed heavily around CC'ing one target at a time, and Gragas' ult into E is still skill-shot based. they all have specific conditions and design philosophies that shape their kit and why they get to chain their CC's. Skarner is the exception because his ult is a lot less committal, it's relatively easier to land, and it suppresses multiple people at once. this isn't displacement, it's not a knock up, not a stun, it's a suppression, which completely stops everything the enemy can do.
      which, on that matter, Skarner can still E someone right out of R. it's not guaranteed by any means, but ulting someone, dragging them in front of a wall and using E immediately after it ends is a decent enough way to chain your CC, especially if you W in between for the slow.

  • @monstermilk6092
    @monstermilk6092 Месяц назад

    Hail of Blades Lethality Skarner is incredibly fun and I cannot reccomend it enough. Even after all the item nerfs, your damage after getting just Profane is hilarious.

  • @that1goldenguy453
    @that1goldenguy453 14 дней назад

    Funny how I’m watching this three weeks after the snake lady promotion

  • @winpik237
    @winpik237 Месяц назад +5

    Old Skarner looked like a mob you would farm for a quest to kill 10 scorpion in a mmo

  • @adamevaskevich5528
    @adamevaskevich5528 Месяц назад

    I honestly think 2 things would make skarner "Stronger" but more importantly smoother to play and more fun to play would the be the following, one of which you brought up Nickyboi in the video, 1 the thing ive been saying since his rework (before the hotfix buff) is that his Q should be an Auto Attack Reset, this would allow for some inter-kit combos, making the 3 his passive and his Q to come out faster, if riot thinks its too powerful, lower the Max HP Damage from 5-11% Max HP Magic Damage to something like ~4-8% Max HP Magic Damage. 2 the one Nickyboi also said, have your Movement Speed before using your E Affect the speed Skarner moves while using his E, have it Start out instead of the Current 150 flat MS, increasing to 950 (1150 if he Grabs a person, which personally i think feels backwards, you should gain less speed when grabbing someone) and also 2.75 Secs is a weird amount of time, so i think it should also be changed to 3 Secs, so maybe have it Start out at 100/105/110/115/120 Flat MS + 10% Current MS when it was activated, increasing by 50/55/60/65/70 MS + 3% Movement Speed when Activated every 0.25 Secs, capping it out at 600 + 41% MS (with Skarner's Base MS of 335 this would end out at just shy of 740 MS at the 1st Rank with no Movement Speed Enchantments) and at Rank 5 it would be 840 + 41% MS (again with no Movement Speed Enhancements this would be just under 980 MS) so on Paper without building Movement Speed, it is a Nerf, but mid game it mkst definitely would be a buff with boots and 1 Single Movement Speed Item) and as a fun 3rd optional one, i think Skarner Ult should grab 3 people at rank 1, 4 at Rank 2, and 5 at Rank 3.

  • @Juanlimiau
    @Juanlimiau Месяц назад +1

    Scafrillas reference? Lets go dehydration gun

  • @Vaquita_Vibes
    @Vaquita_Vibes Месяц назад

    Worth the wait, thanks for the Skornor Vid

  • @AbedIsBatman
    @AbedIsBatman Месяц назад

    A kaiju battle between Malphite and Skarner would epic in the next seasons cinematic trailer

  • @killjoyomega5169
    @killjoyomega5169 29 дней назад

    If theres one skarner buried in each region then probably piltover skarner is more like the old one with crystals all over their body

  • @ReaperGamerYT
    @ReaperGamerYT Месяц назад

    Skarner being a void borne is a cool concept i feel they should have gone with because it would make the voidborn a more diverse race or species and plus would like his name to have ( ' ) like every other voidborn like Skar'ner

  • @kenyizsu
    @kenyizsu Месяц назад +7

    This was such a good video, congratulations! :D
    I'll be the first to admit that I am hella biased towards the PRIMORDIAL SOVEREIGN, because I got into League Lore upon seeing his design. I don't play the game, I haven't followed the worldbuilding up to that point, so I have literally zero connection to the old Skarner. I can understand the feelings of Old Skarner enthusiasts, but talking strictly for myself...
    I absolutely effing love everything about this kaiju bastard.

    • @JerardKal
      @JerardKal Месяц назад +3

      The Kaiju Bastard is good but the main issue that myself and other Skarner Enthusiasts have is that it's a completely different character. It's a neat character, but we lost our boy in return. It REALLY feels like this new Skarner should've just been a different champion, because it's a REALLY good concept, but I don't think it's worth losing our tragic boy.

    • @danielbarnes1241
      @danielbarnes1241 Месяц назад +3

      They just made another rework champion a miserable boomer. Yes this has happened before. Multiple times if you just count making characters miserable for zero reason

    • @cartoonishidealism582
      @cartoonishidealism582 Месяц назад +1

      Welcome to League Lore Hell

    • @kenyizsu
      @kenyizsu Месяц назад

      @@cartoonishidealism582 Nah, I personally really like it here ^^ So many fun regions and characters to learn about and extrapolate on their stories based on what is already there. You want to talk about Hell, my dear, oh... let me introduce you to a little known game called Overwatch 2.

    • @Yoshyguy21
      @Yoshyguy21 Месяц назад

      @@danielbarnes1241 Like who?

  • @WildspeakerYT
    @WildspeakerYT 29 дней назад

    WHY CHILDREN OF THE ECHOES BGM GOES SO WELL WITH HIM, AND OTHER NATLAN MUSIC TOO

  • @asir9129
    @asir9129 5 дней назад +1

    What masterpiece?? holy d glazzer

  • @cds7012
    @cds7012 Месяц назад

    6:56
    That big scorpion would pull an MCU Ultron on us. 😅

  • @DocBonesGames
    @DocBonesGames Месяц назад

    Can't wait for the massive pick rate buff he's gonna get since becoming the force he is in worlds.

  • @baibye409
    @baibye409 7 дней назад

    Skarner was my favorite champion to play in urf nothing was better than turning off your brain and spamming e and stunning people and when they ran away just press r and drag them back and continue stunning them

  • @dajmispokoj4168
    @dajmispokoj4168 Месяц назад +6

    0:23 Ultrakill parry sound?

    • @ferench3699
      @ferench3699 Месяц назад

      ULTRAKILL MENTIONS!!🗣️💥💥💥