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You know this show is really messed up too because what would've happened if these people being "ExPOsED" had their lives hurt because of a dumb shock humor TV show. Would they care if a kid now has divorced parents, or his parents lost their job because the producers didn't want to let people doing Thought Crimes live their lives. And don't tell me this show could do any good in any world. Be honest, 2020 proved that anti-racists are the only violent side of the argument now.
This whole video is pretty racist towards whites honestly. Like 29:50, your comment was racist. She isn't suffering from being white, she's suffering from being a fetishist in the most literal way.
I'mma be honest if given the chance I'd do the same thing. 😅 Edit: I wouldn't really, because I don't like talking much in general. I wrote this comment when I was tired and thought it was funny.
the premise sure sounds like an interesting yet novel concept for a reality show that doesn't seem like it would spark controversy in any way shape or form
Personally, I'm just left wondering how much of the racism displayed by the Wurguls was thier own Vs what they were told to say. In Hell's Kitchen for instance, a lot of the fuck-ups during dinner service were deliberate switcheroos by the production crew or contestants were told to make a mistake off-camera for the sake of Ramsay flaring up. A lot of the scenarios are clearly faked here but I have to wonder if they're being fed lines to say and spark drama which the editors cut out or if the parents are genuinely either really fucking stupid or are very guilty of micro racism.
Rose has a face that could pass but they made her far too dark. She ended up looking like someone in black face, as the rest of her family did. She would have been much more convincing if they’d made her light skinned, but of course when the makeup artists heard “black” they thought of “BLACK.”
Also- light skinned black ppl have preferable treatment generally to dark skinned ones, so it makes sense to have them be as dark as possible so as to have them experience blackness fully
Well we have to be, don’t we…we’re not safe to go around being angry at white people all the time. They’re an actual real danger to us. And I say this knowing that I have my own light skinned privilege as a mixed person.
Carmen's problem is that she exoticizes black people. I watched a reaction to this show and the way she talked about them was very uncomfortable (even more-so when it was in front of black people.) She was behaving like they're from another planet!
That’s something you often see with white people, women in particular and it’s really odd. Everything with a slight tan has to be called exotic or some other weird word to make them stand out. With some people it feels like a fetish.
@@DiddyBohlen The slight tan is also why Hispanic people are exoticized. Which screws over Hispanic actors as it leads to them getting offered only very stereotypical roles.
When you said 'cringe', I assumed it was meant loosely like most people do. Like over something awkward and mildly embarrassing. I didn't expect to grimmace and clench my teeth every few seconds over Carmen and Bruno's antics, because holy cow was that uncomfortable.
Holy shit I never actually thought about that, I kinda forgot that the people in the movie that had been transplanted (?) had been taken over by old (racist) white people.
It’s bizarre how confident Bruno is in both his racism and his denial that racism exists. What a despicable person. And Carmen certainly showed her true colors as well… ugh.
@@CruelestChrisI think you can just Google whether or not reality TV is scripted, but I thought that was a well known fact. As for the point at hand, I think the fact that the 3 people aren't even remotely related is solid enough evidence that those two were hired as actors.
ya got something to say say it i feel like ! then let others point out the flaws in a peaceful and respectful manner could help those understand , at least thats how i feel .. and again i could be wrong but communication is key !
I think you made some interesting points about the intention at the beginning. However, for it to work in this setting, you need someone who isn’t Bruno. He didn’t go into this with the intention of actually learning something. He was trying to confirm his stereotypical viewpoints. So to me, still feels like blackface when he does it. Rose, on the other hand, seemed to actually want to learn.
Or keep Bruno's character, but he actually learns about racism, both systemic and upfront. Yeah it didn't actually happen, but this is reality-TV; you can make shit up.
@@afterdinnercreations936 yes, I agree if the production had been on board to try and get it through Bruno’s head, might have been different. But instead they went the “let him do a cringe rap that not so subtly shows how deeply engrained these stereotypes are” route 💀🤡
47:00 as a grocery store employee, Brian’s actually got the right idea. In employee training, when we suspect shoplifters or any suspicious activity, we’re told to deal with them with “premiere customer service,” which basically allows us to observe the person but disguise it as service. Now obviously, the store we work at doesn’t tell us to do this with black people specifically, just only with suspicious individuals. However, I can definitely see employees having their own definition of “suspicious individuals”.
Yea same. I've had to use this tactic at the store i work at too. For us they tell us to look for people who are dismissive and carry large bags. The area I work in is very mixed but the most "suspicious" people have always been older white women. And the three thefts we had last year were all white women
Majority of ‘suspicious people’ just stay longer tracks of time in liquor sections than most people. And the one rare occasion a customer already far gone cracked a whiskey bottle to void the plastic tab to drink, to later drop the entire bottle on the floor.
Maybe Bruno always act "suspiciously" in all stores anyway so he's used to be treated with “premiere customer service" everywhere, and he's to oblivious to notice why they do that
Gonna be honest, working in retail, suspicious individuals are the ones who get all fidgety when I ask them "will that be all?" at the end of scanning items (its just to make sure they didn't want something else or are waiting on someone before I properly ring them up). I've noticed it happens the most with teenagers when I ask "Will that be all?" they look at me like they've seen a ghost even though I'm not even being accusatory, I'm asking pretty bluntly and that's kinda when I know like "oh they've stolen" but I just don't care enough to peruse them, let them take the 2$ snack or drink honestly.
Rose is the only one who reacted the way the producers had hoped. She’s very well spoken so they’re always cutting to her commentary to try to distract the viewer from the dumpster fire lol
Bruno: "If I was ever called a N*, I would just let it roll off me like nothing." Bruno gets politely told something he said sounds racist. Bruno: "Now hold on and let me finish my statement!!"
I do get that first line. I don't particularly care about the discrimination I face cause even if I get pissed about it, it's not gonna change my situation. And words are a lot easier to ignore than actual actions. Being banned from specific schools cause of a diagnosis is not just words. And you can't debate your way out of it. Someone calling me a retard just lets me know what person I shouldn't hang out with cause clearly they're unsafe to be around if they see no issue with it. Indifference at least let's me preserve my energy for the real important battles in my life. Fight smart not extra hard. Burn out sucks don't recommend.
@@NachoCheeseDorito-Kun If you read the whole thing you'd realize I was bullied by both adults and students for being different. If I have to pick between a teacher beating my hands with a lineair for having inflamed hands and not being able to keep up with a lesson. Or having the whole class told how stupid I am by the math teacher for not being able to do it well despite having autism. I find the later one to be less painful to deal with. She clearly sees me only for my diagnosis. It's the same for regular bullies. They can't see you for who you are they only see you for what they bully you for. In a sense I find that sad, because they'll get hurt in the future if they keep being narrowminded. I don't try to force them to change. I just remain true to myself. Someone who tends to ignore the bad cause it's exhausting to be angry all the time. I don't get why other people hold a grudge in the first place. It's just energy draining.
There's a part of me wondering if the daughter came off better because she was genuinely trying, because she was young enough to have *some* situational awareness of how her parents were coming off, or because the editing went easier on the kids. I really hope it was the first one, but with those parents, none of the three would surprise me.
Apparently she now has a degree in cultural anthropology and is like a diversity consultant or something somewhere? I can't think of the right word, but she deals in racial equality, I heard that somewhere. So at least some good came out of this shitshow lmao
It's really not that insightful. Ever hear the idea that by trying to prevent something from happening you end up causing it to happen? Being called racist today is arguably worse than being accused of being called a witch 500 years ago; because nowadays there's no way to flee for your life to an unknown land. You can't prove yourself innocent, it's literally impossible to do that with an accusation of belief. Genuinely the most racist people in today's society are the same people who 'label' themselves as being (anti-racist)(tm).
Nah, as a white person I know that I have been conditioned by white culture and society to hold certain assumptions about other races, especially black people. I do what I can to unlearn the bullshit, mitigate it, etc... like, that black dude in generic attire walking down the street towards me is probably not contemplating anything evil about me. Odds are he's either ignoring me because he's got shit to think about, or is trying not to cringe internally because oh look, it's a white chick, bet she crosses the street or something. And on the other side of the street is a well-dressed older white gentleman, ah yes, safe territory, right? I have to remind myself that he could be a psycho killer, or a more subtle abuser just waiting for an opening. In the end, we're just three people on a street and I'm annoyed that skin color even comes to mind for me at all in that situation.
@@tirsden Meanwhile I'm afraid of everyone on the street... honestly, having grown up in a white area, I know how bad white people can be and I'm more afraid of them.
Calling someone a “beautiful creature” is kind of just an old white people thing, but putting “black” in there is just adding an adjective that was like throwing fuel on the fire. She didn’t have to insinuate herself into that situation in the first place.
well, english isn't my first language, so maybe that's it, but calling someone a creature just seems really weird. like, tbh it feels a bit degrading yknow? that's a human.
@@uncannyvalley2113 I agree, it’s an outdated phrase, my mom still uses it as a way of saying “a beautiful creature” to a young woman but it’s uncommon today!
God I remember this. The white teenage girl eas sheltered but she did sometimes have the right instincts she was sent to a spoken word group for black teens and she was like , "I feel wrong pretending to black to all the black teenagers in the black poetry group it feels creepy that I'm here, this is their space to express themselves.' or. something like that.
God bruno was deeply infuriating. He was like a big brick wall that aggressively deflected everything everyone tried to explain to him in favor of his own world views.
I feel kinda bad for the daughter, she seemed to genuinely wanna learn, and to have gained some insight from certain subtleties on the way black people are often mistreated. I didn't watch the whole show of course, but she appeared like she genuinely wanted to change for the better, while her parents were stuck in their mindsets and only really wanted confirmation for their beliefs. Honestly, on the topic of racism itself, I think it's important to recognize we *all* have our prejudices, big and small. Nobody exists in a vacuum, and our life and experiences influence how we percieve those we see as "different". I'm not American and I was raised in pretty much exclusively white country, so I could see myself feeling strange and uncomfortable in a place where there were mostly black people. After all, as animals, we are afraid of what we don't know. However, as humans, it's important to recognize this prejudices we may have and work against them. We can't expect ourselves to be pure goodness with nary a negative thought in our heads, nor should we blame ourselves for such feelings - but we should absolutely strive to be better than our basic instincts.
I'm gonna point to dogs on this one: It's not "basic instincts". That "you look different" thing you think you see? It's tribalism. It's "you aren't from my pack so I don't like you". And humans have reinforced that us vs them behavior and taught it to their descendents. It's learned, not innate, and it's part of a divide-et-impera tactic that's controlled the crowds since MILLENIA ago when we started fighting each other for territory and resources. A chihuahua and a great dane will look at each other and think, ANOTHER DOGGO!!!! OH BOY!!!! There's no distrust unless that dog was taught to distrust or had a traumatic experience that makes them scared. Only a dog who's trained or maladjusted will act like a tyrant over another dog-- or a dog who was bred for it, selected for antisocial behavior toward other dogs...
@@neoqwerty The dogs are taking cues from their owners(due to having been bred that way for millennia); without another pack member to give that indication, they would very much be at least suspicious of each other. Humans aren't tribalistic because we're taught; we innately don't trust the "other" because our ancestors were the ones who didn't pay the price for blindly doing so(though if you still believe otherwise, I know a Nigerian prince who could use your help).
@@neoqwerty Tribalism is very much basic instincts in most sociable, inteligent animals though. Apes are very aggresive towards those outside of their pack and even have wars. It’s true most dogs are excited to see each other, but a domestic dog doesn’t really work like a wild animal would. They also don’t judge by looks, but by smell - our noses are just too lame for that. And if a reaction proves at least somewhat beneficial for survival and is passed in one way or another to next generations for thousands of years, it becomes natural instinct, that’s evolution. Tribalism, if we want to call it that, is good for us in many cases. It’s not very big brained to treat a stranger the same way you treat someone you know and trust. I think it truly is all there is to it - the basic instinct that the unknown should be treated with caution, that can grow and manifest itself as straight up dislike or even hate. Thing is we’re better than that. If we call ourselves masters of the earth and want to rule over literally everything else there is like we do, we need to hold ourselves to a certain fucking standard. Don’t let these monkey brain instincts form whole social or political opinions for us. They’re not smart enough. They’re meant to be fast, not always optimal in every non-emergency situation.
Bruno and Carmen had the ultimate chance to get a glimpse of being someone completely different. Getting to know new people, an insight of culture and racism. -Holy hell they screwed up
The series name was "Black White". Why was it ONLY the responsibility of Carmen and Bruno to gain insight? The needle didn't move in this series because the Sparks were never open to understanding anything the other family had to say. The only thing the Sparks succeeded at in this series is showing their son, who never felt racism before, how racist white people really are. Did they really come on here for a better tomorrow or just to air their grievances about blacks.
I think the problem with Nick's makeup (aside from the fact that he was wearing it in the first place) is that it was predominantly white and missing any subtle colour tones you'd find in naturally-white skin, so it slips into the uncanny valley.
@@katofphats3689 The difference with MJ is that he had a skin condition, which is a natural, but very uncanny when you remember what he looked like before his vitiligo had spread so much to the point they had to lighten his still dark skin to match the rest. I wonder if he hired black, or white makeup artists to do it, since it feels like it falls into the same “No changes in color” issue.
As an actor, Bruno probably saw this as an opportunity to stretch his acting crops and give himself a higher profile. There's no sign that he truly wanted a deeper understanding of the black experience. I guess in a way he succeeded in his objective. If he hadn't done this show, nobody'd ever know who he was or remember him. But now he's been immortalized as this rappin' racist clown.
Decided to hit the ground running with something controversial, huh? I've never heard of this... thing, but it sounds like the kind of tone-deaf nonsense that we used to get back in the 90's just for shock value, devoid of anything resembling substance. Either way, good to have you back dude!
As a black person (with a Bachelor's and a Master's degree), I can attest to discrimination even when you're the most educated person in the room. For example, I get asked constantly where I learned to speak English. I am an American, but these are Americans asking me where I learned to speak English. Disclaimer: My Bachelor's Degree is in English, and my Master's is in History. On the flip side of that, Black people will accuse me of forgetting where I came from and tell me I am trying to be "white" because I don't sound black when I speak. Disclaimer: My father was a Professor of Chemistry, Biochemistry, and Organic Chemistry. My mother was a social worker. I spent most of my time with my great-grandmother who was the daughter of slaves. My father's father was a sharecropper that lived in a one-room house with my grandmother and 10 children. I can guarantee I know where I came from. I don't have to speak a certain way to prove who I am, nor should I have to. However, my other grandfather's grandfather was German, so he was very light with gray eyes. This show seems to think all black and white people look and/or act a certain way and that is why it literally reinforced stereotypes rather than going through the spectrum of the black/white experience. It also missed the opportunity to give historical perspectives on race relations in a way that gives reasons for disparity rather than just "living" like one race or the other.
Stereotypes are self perpetuating as a black man who got called a coon from liking to read COMIC BOOKS i can empathize with your struggles on both ends
I'm mixed, but not passing. I was told several times in my life, "You speak so well for a black person!" When white people would mistake me for being Latino and I corrected them, some responded with something along the lines of, "And you've never learned Spanish where you live? Aren't there a lot of Puerto Ricans where you grew up?" The height of this was as an administrative assistant at a prestigious university. I once had a colleague tell me, "You'd have better chances in the job market if you learned Spanish!" I asked her, "Do you know Spanish?" She said no, and I asked if she was having trouble finding a job being monolingual. Obviously confused, she was like, "Well I'm not looking, I really like it here." Uh-huh. Or, if I'm interacting with people in a relaxed setting and drift into 'ghetto speak', they're shocked and appalled. 'I didn't know you spoke like *them.'* I'm sorry, like who? Why should I have to sound like you just to be taken seriously? *Ya'll* from the *boonies* with your *drawls* wouldn't know anything about that, would you? And yes, you'll get it from the other side, too, black people who are angry at your verbal-switching, or getting your hair straightened, or anything that could potentially mark you as 'other.' And while it can be insightful to experience life the way others do, it lacks a great deal of context. Hearing these things when you know that it isn't really *you,* it's a costume you can take off whenever the criticism becomes too great, means it has a lot less impact on your psyche. It'd be like if you're actually 120lbs but wearing a fat suit to appear 400lbs; someone calling you 'fattie' on the street would prolly just get a bemused chuckle. It doesn't actually phase you because you know it's not reality.
I am struggling to believe everything Bruno did was meant to be taken seriously. I cannot for one moment believe he was doing this for anything other than to bring himself entertainment and put black people in an uncomfortable and inescapable position.
I honestly just feel really bad for all the black people who had to endure the white family, I could barely deal with them for an hour and had to keep taking extended breaks just to get through it
You can see them doing that whole "I wanna say something but these people are white so I gotta keep my mouth shut or else I'm just that "angry black man/woman stereotype to them" face. I feel so bad for them
I think the fact that they were acting was a big part of it. They were clearly hamming it up so nothing about them was genuine. Idk what they were thinking by having a fake family participate.
As annoying as people overusing "cringe" for every little thing has gotten, I think in this case calling this show cringe is too mild. Because I felt myself wanting to twist into a pretzel several times watching some of the more tone-deaf moments. Bruno is exactly the best illustration of the "well, _I_ don't feel it, so you must be making shit up/overreacting" type, coupled with the hostile defensiveness at the suggestion he could be wrong/racist that makes him incapable of wanting to examine his own preconceptions. Carmen is little better.
Part of Bruno's dismissiveness probably also comes from being a towering giant who isn't physically intimidated by a whole lot of people in everyday life.
Carmen is so freaking uncomfortable to watch, holy crap. When she snapped at her daughter for trying to educate her, I literally felt like I was gonna throw up. Christ, I hope Rose has gotten away from her shithead parents by now.
This whole show is like the wildest The Office, Parks and Rec, It's Always Sunny-esque skits. The awkward pauses, the unnecessary tendency to put themselves in uncomfortable situations, then your sociopathic lack of social awareness makes this like the funniest satire ever but then you remember that they're real people who live and breathe and have hearts that pump blood in the real world all the time.
I'm not gonna lie, I had to turn this off a couple of times. I physically cringed during the rapping moments. Secondhand embarrassment is a powerful thing
45:54 "I don't wanna have to choose my words." The goddamn fucking hypocrisy. As if we don't all constantly have to choose our words based on context! As if she doesn't know that!
One insane moment that CJ didn’t mention is that immediately after showing the families his “rap”, Bruno asks Nick if he “felt offended” with absolutely no prompting. This grown-ass man was attempting to provoke a TEENAGER by mocking his race and culture. He KNEW what he did was offensive and all but admitted he wanted to upset the Sparks, and I’m fully convinced he was trying to make them snap at him so he could perpetuate the stereotype of Black people being “loud and violent.” What a piece of shit.
Every single time you showed Bruno Being Bruno and then showed the black family's reaction I'm just sitting here in full wince like "oh my god I'M SO SORRY" like can Bruno ever just shut up lmao????
I had to skip over parts. It was incredibly difficult to watch him go. I'm of the opinion that people are generally more rational and willing to empathise when not on the Internet, but he seems to be an exception.
This is another one of those reality TV shows that claims that it's an experiment but is so deliberately fabricated that it's obvious from the offset. It's an interesting idea, but the showrunners aren't really interested in exploring it, just the shock value and engineered scenarios with one of the families just being a bunch of actors. It doesn't want to look beyond racial stereotypes but to reinforce them.
as a white person, i'll obviously never understand how it feels to be black. but i do know that if i offended someone i don't get to say i don't. i ask if they could explain what i did wrong, apologise and go on. i DON'T fucking scream at them because i am now offended for getting called out. seriously, hearing these people talk gives me a headache.
as a white person, if someone tells me something i said is racist or offensive, i’m just gonna apologise and thank them for calling me out. doesn’t matter if it didn’t seem racist to me, i’m white, i’ll never understand what it’s like to be nom white.
That's actually a good way of also dealing with the more infuriating people who get offended by nothing. If you honestly ask them why what you did was offensive it can reveal their hypocricy So at "worst" you'll learn when you made a mistake and become a better person. At best you'll hopefully show others that they're assholes Just don't turn the question into an attack. Don't say things like "Why are you so offended?" in a condensending voice
I guess you don't really expect to see people wearing raceswap make-up in public, so if you saw someone like that walking down the street, you'd just think they look kind of odd, rather than being in blackface. Or maybe people were too polite to comment on it. I don't know.
There a reasonable assumption that the person might just be mixed race. Overall throwing accusations would just create a conflict nobody wants to be a part of.
Yeah I was thinking that, most likely people were aware something about them was unusual but just assume they had different features, were mixed race and maybe just weren’t great at doing their makeup or something. If I see someone with “weird” features my instinct is never gonna be that they’re in race-swap makeup, film crew or no. I don’t even tend to look at people that hard, personally.
There was one big positive thing I learned out of this show: there are whole playgroups of domino players out there. And it is just great, I loved playing this game as a kid.
Agreed! Dominoes and chess were my late uncle's favorite games, and my MIL re-introduced me to dominoes many years ago. Very happy to see it's still played!
Let’s be real this dad is just stright up racist why would you pick him for a show talking about race it’s like they knew what they where doing When they made the show
@@redwiltshire1816 shockingly poor taste and controversy get your show a lot of attention, wouldn't surprise me if they were counting on it to get people to watch. Sounds like a mid 2000s mentality
@@redwiltshire1816 Ya as bad as the idea sounds, you get the right open minded people who are serious about the job, you might actually accomplish something with an idea like this. But when you got a guy like Bruno just over the moon about having an N word pass on TV, ya this is going nowhere. Or nowhere good at least.
true true its weird but thats not blackface, thats a disguise or cosplay. its definitely not trying to mock black people even if it looks bad at times. black people cosplaying as white characters aint whiteface is it?
@@RowBlanka "black people cosplaying as black characters aint whiteface is it?" Explain to me how this sentence makes sense? If it looks bad at time, it's because it's blackface.
@@RowBlanka No. most black people will not try to change their skin color in order to cosplay a white character. they may wear makeup but that makeup would do nothing to alter their skin color or ethnic features. they'll wear different accessories and clothing but that will do nothing to their skin color. it's only blackface or white face when you change your skin color. I'd say the closest would be clown makeup but most white people do not look pure white or anything like the clown makeup people wear so it certainly isn't white face since it's not white people their imitating.
I remember when this show came out because my white-as-snow sociology professor had us watch it for four classes in a row to "see the dynamics of race relations." I just remember the father of that family had a fucking hard on for racial slurs.
I'm astonished the race swapping isn't even close to the most racist part of this show lol Brian and his family seemed like good folks I can see why he was so frustrated with Bruno and Carmen
South Park taught us best with the “I don’t get it” speech at the end of the Wheel of Fortune episode. If you are not black you will never understand the hurt that word causes specifically to black people, but it’s not okay to pretend you understand or to claim you know what it’s like when you don’t. The best you can do is empathize and be better.
@@wolfetteplays8894 No it’s not. Because Bruno is an example of someone who claims they “get it” and thus dismisses all of Brian’s feelings on the issue because of that. All I said was you need to understand that certain words do hurt people and you should respect someone’s feelings even if you don’t personally understand it.
@@zogwort1522 Sympathy is feeling sorry for someone. Empathy is basically being able to put yourself into someone else's shoes, and actually understand where they're coming from.
@@zogwort1522 It's like the difference between having your child die and knowing someone whose child died. You can imagine the experience and be very saddened, but unless you experience the pain of losing a child first hand you can never truly know. You can only offer support to the person who is experiencing it. There are many pains we can only ever imagine. Often times, claiming that we understand them fully is offensive to the person who must live with that suffering, especially when it seems to turn the spotlight on to us and the pain it makes *us* feel, rather than focusing on the problems of the victim. We can support and emphasize without fully understanding. Wrongly claiming understanding is not very comforting. Trying to understand while being conscious of our limits is often the best way approach our experiences with empathy.
I was actual required to watch this show in health class in 8th grade. Perhaps this was the shows Target demographic: students required to take sensitivity training. Well it wasn’t enjoyable for us either.
I'm clearly a white guy. I'm 6ft shaved head and tattoos. I also grew up in Wolverhampton and had friends from all walks of life. My grandad was an Indian man who married a white woman, he was marginalized from being a white "Indian" even though he was dark, he experienced racism out the ass when he met my nan and likewise my nan did as well for being with my grandad. My niece and nephew are black, and my niece has been racially absused by a young black girl for not being black enough because she's lighter skinned. The point I'm trying to make here is that racism is not exclusive to just black and white, it's negatively nuanced from all aspects and can come from everywhere. The lack of understanding of a person's background and also the lack of interaction through diversity is often the issue. I caught shit for having an Indian grandad, I've been called out on having a beautiful niece and nephew by people who don't understand that a white guy can have so much inclusion in his history. My Asian friends used to use the term white to explain who I was or ripping me for banter. I didn't mind and still don't but it's molded my attitude that people are people regardless of what skin colour you are. It's sad it exists and a show like this could of done some serious exploring but looks like it never did (I understand no one would want to be beaten over the head with messages and it was probably just for entertainment value tbh, I mean it was the 00s). Saying that my friends are my friends and my family are my family regardless of skin tone, and delving deeper into a person's history will explain more about their attitudes than just white face/black face. Also what a wild fucking idea for a show 🤣
@sewer~rat “this is incredibly white” in response to people treating him as nothing but white when he’s ethnically mixed just because of his skin colour BRUH do you have a crumb of awareness
When mans said “I was waiting for someone to come up to me and say HEY N****!” I had to drop everything I was doing to give this video my full undivided attention. Edit- ok now that I’ve watched most of the video, Bruno is WILD, and not in a good way.
I hate how desperate Bruno was to say the N word. Look I’m white so I’m not sure if I have a say in this but I’m fine never saying that word. It’s a straight up racial slur. Yeah and these families are walking stereotypes.
It's a very childish mentality to want to do things just because you're told not to. There is no other reason why some white people insist that they should be allowed to use the word.
I fully believe Bruno & Carmen would've did some weird sexual role-play while in make.up if the show didn't insist on only having the families in make-up while filming for the show. But by today's standards for reality TV, I'm sure they would've attempted to film it either way for shock.
The thing about Sprigle and Griffin is that what they did was born out of pure intentions and ultimately got results. They weren't trying to make a mockery of black people and they weren't trying to make cheap entertainment like this show. It was earnest journalism designed to empathize with and shine a light on the plight of black people, and like you said, they risked their lives to do it. They put themselves in danger to try and help others, and I respect that. Also Brian looks like the white reporter from Chappelle's Show.
Hell of a welcome back. I’ve seen some people break down clips of this but this is the first time I’ve seen a full break down. I think the “cast” adds many layers to the ridiculous offense nature of an otherwise interesting concept.
@@warlordofbritannia Reminds me of a 50's commercial with an aunt Jemima towel holder (described as "southern hospitality"). When you see that, you think: "Lmao, people sure were racist back then. Good thing that would never fly today." But if you look over and see it on the shelves now, you think: "Goddammit, we're still racist"
i have a theory i think the creators intentionally asked the white family to act awkward and insensetive because it would look more shocking and get more people watching both adults were actors and they both seem really unnatural and exaggerated.
It actually HAD been done before, in 2005, in the UK. Race Swap featured Linford Christie made up to look white, and Samantha Fox made up to look Indian. So, not really a swap, but I think even Channel 5 figured blackface would be a step too far for them.
HOW do you pass off as someone of a different race when NONE of your features even remotely align? 🤣 It's like Pennywise just wiping the makeup off his face. Ya ain't fooling nobody 😅
Careful, you don't want people to think you think that physical features occur in rough patterns among ethnicities. That's basically the same thing as white supremacy now.
I feel like people who try to “race swap” like this don’t understand that darker skin doesn’t suddenly make you look black. A lighter skinned person may look more black than a dark skinned person. It boils down to features, and skin tone is just one feature. It’s just the feature that you notice first.
I think Renee's was the worst. Her facial features couldn't be hidden. Bruno passed as black, like CR said, he looked like a less rapey Bill Cosby. Because we know he's white and such an idiot, it ruins the effect.
Bruno strikes me as the kind of person who envisions progress in the world as a hill you climb, and that EVERYONE starts at the same position and has the exact same capability to get to the top of that hill if they just put in the same effort, and anyone who doesn't reach the top clearly just wasn't trying hard enough, while at the same time being blindly, boldly ignorant to the readily apparent fact that _not everyone starts ascending at the same point on that hill._ Different circumstances in life _will_ give individuals a higher or lower starting point, and _on top of that_ some people have more of a clear path already treaded down to reach the top, while others still have raw forest to navigate through to reach the same points. The world to Bruno is what he envisions in his mind, and he's stubbornly insisting on keeping that view of it regardless of what anyone says, leaving him unable to understand why when he tells people "You get out of life what you put into it" people respond, rightly so, with "That's some real ignorant bs right there fella".
If a neighborhood is just a little racist, it's probably super easy to get a jump if you're black, it means you're leaving. They should have pretended they were house-hunting.
I think they made a huge mistake with who they selected for the experiment with this one. Bruno is just an asshole using the experiment as an excuse to peddle his problematic shittakes. This could have been something, perhaps a way to show how race relations were in the 2000s, what had changed, and what still needed to change. I do appreciate you bringing up the context surrounding what is and isn’t considered blackface as well as addressing what the point of RDJ’s character in Tropic Thunder was about; I hardly hear anyone consider context anymore, so thank you for going into that topic. (Another example is how the movie Blazing Saddles was literally making the point that racism is bad and just makes people look stupid/foolish, but that’s a different conversation for a different day.)
I remember watching this show when it was on tv. It was frustrating how oblivious the white participants were about black culture, and I don’t know how no one could figure out that the physical features on both sides didn’t match their skin color. I hated Bruno because he never got it. And why should he? He and his family knew they only had to be black for a limited time in a diverse area.
Their features weren't obvious because race distinctions are statistical, not set in stone, and mixed heritages very much exist. Also there are lots of face types in the world for all the skin colours.
Hi there. There is no set facical feature for Black Americans nor Africans. Some have narrow noses, some have wide, some have flat noses. Just like not all of us have kinky hair, some of us have 4a-4c curl patterns. My mom who is not mixed but has Dominican roots has loose curls whilst my Dad who is half Indian has more curls than her lol. It also depends on where their ancestors are from, if their mixed with another African tribes or have European mixture. Also we can fair skinned with no mixture or with mixture, Black as stone or brown as clay. I really wish people would stop saying that Black American have certain features. That's like saying Asians all have a certain look when that is not true. There may be share features but we don't have one type of facial features. Hope I explained that.
@@missauroraroseblairsays while that may be true some generalizations are accurate. Not all black people have afros, but most afros are worn by black people. Not all Asians have insanely straight hair but most Asian people and indigenous Americans have really straight hair. There are genetic predispositions to certain features and conditions. Just because people are different doesn't mean they are better or worse. Kind of disingenuous to assume just because someone points out differences and patterns, that means it's inherently a bad thing.
Spending a day or two pretending to be a marginalized person could never show you what their life is struggles are. Im 29 and I've been physically handicapped for 21 years. Even though plenty of people choose to be kind and help, I can't tell you how many people treat you like you're invisible or, in the worst case scenario, become aggressive toward you. I've been yelled at for not moving AROUND people and I've also been yelled at for asking someone to please move so I could get around them. Nobody chooses to be born as they are, they just are. So people need to stop hating others for being different from yourself. Nobody needs to be on a ridiculous show like this to know that.
People pretend you're invisible? Here's news, non-disabled people don't meet eyelines and say hello to every single person we pass, either. They're treating you like they would any other _normal person._ Isn't that what you want? You've been yelled at in both the affirmative and the negative of the same situation? - Amazing.. So has everyone without a disability. People are assholes and you personally don't seem to be able to decide if you want to be special or not. You winge about not being noticed, not being special, but at the same time complain about being yelled at because you _are_ special. So which is it? Which do you want? You're not fucking special. Stop fucking whining about how you get treated because it's exactly the same as everyone else.
Strange idea for a tv show, but ultimately very telling. As an Asian living in Australia, I get a lot of casual racism comments from strangers and even my classmates. It's honestly really sad and I sympathise with other racial minorities and in this case, black people.
While I understand why you say this is and isn’t blackface, I think this is a good example to show how things change in society. Blackface is now seen as trying to appear black for theatre, which is what this is. Doesn’t really matter the intentions anymore. Most racism people face now isn’t a burning cross on their lawn. It’s usually repetitive torment (obvious or subtle) on a person-to-person basis. I think the reason people aren’t sympathetic to us black people is that they’re focused on what words used to mean.
you hit the nail on the head. Bruno seems to think that racism towards black people only exist as these very overt actions of yesteryear, like a cross burning on your lawn. meanwhile, his daughter notes the different way people interacted with her when she was walking around a predominantly white neighborhood that she's gone to before. like... would they seriously tell her that they were out of job applications if she went back there the next day as her white self? the saddest part of this is that after this, Bruno will spend the rest of his life convinced that he has confirmed for himself first-hand that racism towards black people no longer exists in America.
We're in a post-context, post-intention world. Everything is seen in a vacuum, because that's what twitter is. Each individual message has its own url, and is ultimately evaluated on its own, which is why you couldn't pay me to use twitter.
@@mariusvanc oh this concept is way older than that. Reification as a cultural phenomenon has always been present. However, in the modern world, messages can now be repeated at nausea and propagated throughout the world making the process reach sky high levels of magnitude. As a non American i can only interact with these issues through oversimplified, hyper aggressive content (i.e. le Twitter hot takes, corporate pandering etc) and as a result I've always felt confused and alienated because, as you said, context is often discarded
The amount of racism and white fragility in this show annoys me so much! Bruno and his wife are so toxic and it's crazy that they think there's nothing wrong with any of their actions and refuse to listen or change
Like, they're literally that white racist liberal stereotype. Carmen clearly sees black people as some exotic jungle species the way she talks about them and Bruno is just a racist who wants to claim racism doesn't exist with his bootstrap bs.
Yeah, and if there were just a couple cases of social faux pas because of some stereotypes she'd internalised from a sheltered upbringing, that'd be at least understandable and kind of feed into the supposed purpose of the show. It'd still be cringy and bad but at least when you hear negative reactions from other people in that sort of controlled environment, you can hear them out and reflect on it perhaps more easily than in everyday life. Instead nah, she quadruples right down on it and doesn't even entertain the idea that black people are humans, not walking cartoon mashups of said stereotypes seemingly only there as set dressing for her life.
Ugh, Bruno stinks of privilege (or he's just deluded, or maybe both). The people who glorify personal responsibility are almost always the kind of people who had help from teachers, family, friends etc., refuse to acknowledge their advantages and opportunities, and act like they did everything through just grit and determination. Society isn't isolated. People aren't alone, and while that means that people can sometimes get help when they need it and should consider how their actions impact others, it also means it isn't just their actions that affect their lives. It really pisses me off when people use "personal responsibility" as an excuse to not critically examine the failures of the government, society and their own personal conduct.
yes, survivorship bias. it's honestly amazing how capitalism has convinced a social species that we are not social and all our achievements were made on our own. most of us wouldn't even be here past birth if it wasn't for our species being social, but sure...Bruno is "self made", he just had to work hard that's all (it's amazing how they're ALWAYS self made)
Yeah he really acts like he either doesn't know or doesn't care about any advantages he most likely had in life. And this "entirely self made" attitude frustrates me to no end because it feels like it's one of the causes why people (for example, neurodivergent ppl) are afraid to ask for help or accomodations.
@@Hoganply He means Laissez-Faire capitalism (which places heavy emphasis on personal responsibility)which according to the American Right is the only form of capitalism.
🎶We don’t talk about Bruno… But- it was a filming day. We were getting ready and there wasn’t a cloud in the sky. Bruno walks in And the cringe did heighten…🎶
One thing about make-up is, things tend to look a bit different on camera. Like, you actually sort of need make-up just to look natural on TV. At the same time, that might mean that the make-up in the show might have been more convincing face-to-face that it looks.
thank you for this video , being a native american i have suffered similar but obviously not the same types of racism and issues but people need to learn to just get along .. imagine the world we could create if we all worked together as one ! love all your videos man and the fact you can rag on your british heriditary just makes me enjoy it even more :) thanks again stay safe my man .
"We are going to show racism on TV, and if nothing comes up, we will manufacture some for money! What could go wrong?" - The producers, probably Thank you for putting your sanity at risk for the sake of entertainign us.
In retrospect this show is an intriguing look at how disconnected certain white people are from the idea of race, how they operate in this weird ahistorical realm of denial and ignorance. The early 2000s especially feels like a continuation of the self-back-patting 90s, except in the 2000s the world of reality TV led to people shedding all sense of decency and logic.
Maybe like how some black people deny that other races are victim of racism too. Or how they're trying very hard to forget that african tribes have always enslaved and killed each other before anyone set foot on Africa. I was born in Madagascar and even there, there are cases of racism between each region. Some black people who have settled in developed countries have even come to dislike their roots. You seem to be disconnected as well.
Funny how nick, the son in the black family saw no point to the whole racism exercise. He said he never experiences racism. Hmm I guess we ARE a much different country than we were 60 years ago despite what the race hustlers try to push. If there was no racism, al Sharpton would be broke right now. Morgan freeman said the way to stop racism is to just stop talking about it
I wake up every morning saluting to Hitler and eat sausage and drink beer every meal. I also listen to Beethoven while going to start another world war. (This is meant to be a joke. Sorry if I offend anyone with the “stereotypes”.)
The part starting around 17:30 is pretty common here in the Netherlands, regardless of skin color. Especially in cities, many people will look the other way or flat out ignore any random stranger that greets them or tries to talk to them. Like "What do want from me? Go away." 😂
yeah but this takes place in America. people greet you and you greet them back. it's a manners thing, we do it as soon as we can talk. it's pretty rude to ignore a greeting, even from a stranger, and pretty much the only reason we wouldn't is if we ABSOLUTELY do not want to associate with them, like if someone were, say...blackfacing in public to throw out a random example 💀
I found it insane thta the show never acknowleges that the reason most people reacted in a negative manour was because they could clearly see that they're in makeup and so pushes forward the idea that thye hold racist mindsets. I don't know how this was made
Several interactions were clearly staged as well. I don't care how racist somebody might actually be, nobody's going to saddle up next to somebody they've never met and open the conversation with a racist screed.
Bits like the white family realising that they were appreciated less by the people around them in their own community when they "switched" race is genuinely quite eye-opening. Wish they just had stuff like that and cut out all the other things...
Carmen feeling other people’s hair at that point stops being a white woman trying to be a black woman and instead becomes an alien trying to impersonate humans.
I remember my mom watching this thing, and I couldn't help thinking Bruno was incredibly fucking racist. I am so white I could be used as a signal reflector and I'm cringing at how that creep seems to think he knows everything about black culture despite being utterly clueless
This was an... interesting watch. I found myself in gut wrenching laughter at how hilariously disconnected Bruno and Carmen were while saying out loud, "This can't be real! You can't be serious?!" Also slight correction at 35:09 the gentleman's name is Pullum, Fernando Pullum. Pullman made me chuckle though, sounds like a Robot Master.
It looks like the break has done you well. And I actually remember when this show came out. I didn't watch it but my parents who aren't the most aware of social situations actually commented on the ads to my brother and I that it wouldn't work because your race is a lived experience more than anything.
I can't be the only millennial that saw this show when it aired, right? I was starting to think it was a fever dream bc no one knew what I was talking about
This series literally feels like both the Eddie Murphy “white like me” snl skit, and the wife swap skit from chappelle show. And those are much much better than this series.
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You know this show is really messed up too because what would've happened if these people being "ExPOsED" had their lives hurt because of a dumb shock humor TV show.
Would they care if a kid now has divorced parents, or his parents lost their job because the producers didn't want to let people doing Thought Crimes live their lives.
And don't tell me this show could do any good in any world. Be honest, 2020 proved that anti-racists are the only violent side of the argument now.
This whole video is pretty racist towards whites honestly. Like 29:50, your comment was racist. She isn't suffering from being white, she's suffering from being a fetishist in the most literal way.
THE RETURN OF THE KING!!!!!!!!
@@AA-dn8dj how?
"Being black is a very subtle thing."
Me, an actual black man: What the hell does that even mean?
wdym man? we all are subtly black 🤓
Something as fake as this show I'd wager
I be COVERT BLACK up in here. So black that the CIA has trouble finding me lol
That means as much as stale chips. In other words: absolutely nothing.
No clue. I guess you'd have to be a white man in blackface to understand?
I swear, the dad of the white family was so incredibly happy to say slurs and stereotypes on national TV.
Man was having the time of his life 🤣
This is the true meaning of cringe. I could've reached through the screen and slapped him.
I'mma be honest if given the chance I'd do the same thing. 😅
Edit: I wouldn't really, because I don't like talking much in general. I wrote this comment when I was tired and thought it was funny.
@@Oturan20 way to announce youre racist unprompted
They weren't even a real family, they were paid actors
the premise sure sounds like an interesting yet novel concept for a reality show that doesn't seem like it would spark controversy in any way shape or form
Sounds a like a home run for entertainment
Definitely no problems with this concept whatsoever.
yes definitely nothing problematic could happen like my sitcom "the pierce's" about william luther pierce and the wacky antics his family got into :D
Nope nothing to take notice at all. Totally
Personally, I'm just left wondering how much of the racism displayed by the Wurguls was thier own Vs what they were told to say. In Hell's Kitchen for instance, a lot of the fuck-ups during dinner service were deliberate switcheroos by the production crew or contestants were told to make a mistake off-camera for the sake of Ramsay flaring up. A lot of the scenarios are clearly faked here but I have to wonder if they're being fed lines to say and spark drama which the editors cut out or if the parents are genuinely either really fucking stupid or are very guilty of micro racism.
Rose has a face that could pass but they made her far too dark. She ended up looking like someone in black face, as the rest of her family did. She would have been much more convincing if they’d made her light skinned, but of course when the makeup artists heard “black” they thought of “BLACK.”
nah the black to BLACK has me dying laughing at 4 am rn 🤣
@@bernard12324 Would have been as *BLACK*
As a hobby modelmaker my advice is *thin your paints.*
The time i accidentally stained my skin with woodstain was more convincing than what rhey did to those people. And im an asian girl.
Also- light skinned black ppl have preferable treatment generally to dark skinned ones, so it makes sense to have them be as dark as possible so as to have them experience blackness fully
The amount of RESTRAINT that the black family has around Bruno is so admirable.
Truth.
Well we have to be, don’t we…we’re not safe to go around being angry at white people all the time. They’re an actual real danger to us. And I say this knowing that I have my own light skinned privilege as a mixed person.
Bruno was restraining himself from saying something too racist this is him at his least
But also frustrating, like stand up to him!
Why, because black people are naturally violent and resolve things with aggression rather than words?
Racist.
Carmen's problem is that she exoticizes black people. I watched a reaction to this show and the way she talked about them was very uncomfortable (even more-so when it was in front of black people.) She was behaving like they're from another planet!
Facts!
That’s something you often see with white people, women in particular and it’s really odd. Everything with a slight tan has to be called exotic or some other weird word to make them stand out. With some people it feels like a fetish.
@@DiddyBohlen As a white person I never even thought that would be a thing. So weird and absolutely cringy. Yikes..
@@DiddyBohlen The slight tan is also why Hispanic people are exoticized. Which screws over Hispanic actors as it leads to them getting offered only very stereotypical roles.
Yea I think the term for this weird "Get Out" type of behaviour is called "lionization"? But imo it's worse than Bruno's overt racism
When you said 'cringe', I assumed it was meant loosely like most people do. Like over something awkward and mildly embarrassing.
I didn't expect to grimmace and clench my teeth every few seconds over Carmen and Bruno's antics, because holy cow was that uncomfortable.
Carmen is naïve. Bruno, however, is the poster child for 'willful ignorance'.
Carmen gets less cringeworthy through the show, but Bruno honestly gets worse.
Cringe was such an understatement
This isn't your average everyday cringe. This is *advanced* cringe.
I literally had to move around and writhe because listening to this shit cause it’s so insane
I imagine Bruno’s behavior is how most _Get Out_ body transplant recipients would act after the procedure.
This deserves more likes
This is really fucked up and really fucking funny
Thank you for this gem. Spot on.
oh believe me they would act worse than bruno.
Holy shit I never actually thought about that, I kinda forgot that the people in the movie that had been transplanted (?) had been taken over by old (racist) white people.
How could you ever walk away from this show with any other thought than "Bruno is 1,000,000% racist?"
Because of how they deal with it?
It’s bizarre how confident Bruno is in both his racism and his denial that racism exists. What a despicable person. And Carmen certainly showed her true colors as well… ugh.
Did you miss the part where CJ says that both of them were/are actors?
@@ErebosGR
He means they previously worked as actors, not that they were actors in this particular show.
@@CruelestChris All reality TV is scripted to some extent, so yes they were acting.
@@ErebosGR
Citation if you please.
@@CruelestChrisI think you can just Google whether or not reality TV is scripted, but I thought that was a well known fact. As for the point at hand, I think the fact that the 3 people aren't even remotely related is solid enough evidence that those two were hired as actors.
"I don't want to have to choose my words" is like a textbook example of people who don't understand social interaction at all
True. People who say that are basically saying “it’s already a job speaking to you; if I’m also required to be sensitive to your feelings, I’m out.”
My ex was exactly like this. Flipped his shit when I told him maybe not call his dickhole a ‘jap’s eye’
@@toyamwarrto me it's shit I've got to hide my prejudices around you like kids not swearing around adults lol
ya got something to say say it i feel like ! then let others point out the flaws in a peaceful and respectful manner could help those understand , at least thats how i feel .. and again i could be wrong but communication is key !
White upper class privilege
I think you made some interesting points about the intention at the beginning. However, for it to work in this setting, you need someone who isn’t Bruno. He didn’t go into this with the intention of actually learning something. He was trying to confirm his stereotypical viewpoints. So to me, still feels like blackface when he does it. Rose, on the other hand, seemed to actually want to learn.
Yeah, Bruno was obviously just a racist who wanted to confirm his racist views and act black for shits and giggles.
At just after 27:00 Bruno does a walk like Richard Pryor teaching Gene Wilder, how to walk black, in Silver Streak.
Rose took up Cultural Anthropology for her bachelor's degree.
Or keep Bruno's character, but he actually learns about racism, both systemic and upfront. Yeah it didn't actually happen, but this is reality-TV; you can make shit up.
@@afterdinnercreations936 yes, I agree if the production had been on board to try and get it through Bruno’s head, might have been different. But instead they went the “let him do a cringe rap that not so subtly shows how deeply engrained these stereotypes are” route 💀🤡
47:00 as a grocery store employee, Brian’s actually got the right idea. In employee training, when we suspect shoplifters or any suspicious activity, we’re told to deal with them with “premiere customer service,” which basically allows us to observe the person but disguise it as service. Now obviously, the store we work at doesn’t tell us to do this with black people specifically, just only with suspicious individuals. However, I can definitely see employees having their own definition of “suspicious individuals”.
Yea same. I've had to use this tactic at the store i work at too. For us they tell us to look for people who are dismissive and carry large bags. The area I work in is very mixed but the most "suspicious" people have always been older white women. And the three thefts we had last year were all white women
Majority of ‘suspicious people’ just stay longer tracks of time in liquor sections than most people.
And the one rare occasion a customer already far gone cracked a whiskey bottle to void the plastic tab to drink, to later drop the entire bottle on the floor.
Maybe Bruno always act "suspiciously" in all stores anyway so he's used to be treated with “premiere customer service" everywhere, and he's to oblivious to notice why they do that
Gonna be honest, working in retail, suspicious individuals are the ones who get all fidgety when I ask them "will that be all?" at the end of scanning items (its just to make sure they didn't want something else or are waiting on someone before I properly ring them up).
I've noticed it happens the most with teenagers when I ask "Will that be all?" they look at me like they've seen a ghost even though I'm not even being accusatory, I'm asking pretty bluntly and that's kinda when I know like "oh they've stolen" but I just don't care enough to peruse them, let them take the 2$ snack or drink honestly.
@@SteinGauslaaStrindhaug There is no more a suspicious individual than Ol' Bruno
Rose is the only one who reacted the way the producers had hoped. She’s very well spoken so they’re always cutting to her commentary to try to distract the viewer from the dumpster fire lol
Bruno: "If I was ever called a N*, I would just let it roll off me like nothing."
Bruno gets politely told something he said sounds racist.
Bruno: "Now hold on and let me finish my statement!!"
Based Bruno
I do get that first line. I don't particularly care about the discrimination I face cause even if I get pissed about it, it's not gonna change my situation. And words are a lot easier to ignore than actual actions.
Being banned from specific schools cause of a diagnosis is not just words. And you can't debate your way out of it. Someone calling me a retard just lets me know what person I shouldn't hang out with cause clearly they're unsafe to be around if they see no issue with it.
Indifference at least let's me preserve my energy for the real important battles in my life. Fight smart not extra hard. Burn out sucks don't recommend.
@@junrobin9335 I get that train of thought, but as a bully victim shite like that just hurts.
@@NachoCheeseDorito-Kun If you read the whole thing you'd realize I was bullied by both adults and students for being different.
If I have to pick between a teacher beating my hands with a lineair for having inflamed hands and not being able to keep up with a lesson. Or having the whole class told how stupid I am by the math teacher for not being able to do it well despite having autism. I find the later one to be less painful to deal with. She clearly sees me only for my diagnosis.
It's the same for regular bullies. They can't see you for who you are they only see you for what they bully you for. In a sense I find that sad, because they'll get hurt in the future if they keep being narrowminded. I don't try to force them to change. I just remain true to myself. Someone who tends to ignore the bad cause it's exhausting to be angry all the time. I don't get why other people hold a grudge in the first place. It's just energy draining.
There's a part of me wondering if the daughter came off better because she was genuinely trying, because she was young enough to have *some* situational awareness of how her parents were coming off, or because the editing went easier on the kids. I really hope it was the first one, but with those parents, none of the three would surprise me.
Well, how I understood it, they aren't really her parents. I think Carmen and Bruno aren't even together.
Apparently she now has a degree in cultural anthropology and is like a diversity consultant or something somewhere? I can't think of the right word, but she deals in racial equality, I heard that somewhere. So at least some good came out of this shitshow lmao
I mean, probably it was a combination, right? Whaddya you think?
@@clovercurator7997 so glad
@@clovercurator7997 the show was her batman-esque origin story
This show is an unintentionally insightful look at racism.
As in - nobody knows they're racist and nobody wants to change.
yup so it was way ahead of the curve.
It's really not that insightful. Ever hear the idea that by trying to prevent something from happening you end up causing it to happen?
Being called racist today is arguably worse than being accused of being called a witch 500 years ago; because nowadays there's no way to flee for your life to an unknown land. You can't prove yourself innocent, it's literally impossible to do that with an accusation of belief.
Genuinely the most racist people in today's society are the same people who 'label' themselves as being (anti-racist)(tm).
Nah, as a white person I know that I have been conditioned by white culture and society to hold certain assumptions about other races, especially black people. I do what I can to unlearn the bullshit, mitigate it, etc... like, that black dude in generic attire walking down the street towards me is probably not contemplating anything evil about me. Odds are he's either ignoring me because he's got shit to think about, or is trying not to cringe internally because oh look, it's a white chick, bet she crosses the street or something. And on the other side of the street is a well-dressed older white gentleman, ah yes, safe territory, right? I have to remind myself that he could be a psycho killer, or a more subtle abuser just waiting for an opening.
In the end, we're just three people on a street and I'm annoyed that skin color even comes to mind for me at all in that situation.
@@tirsden Meanwhile I'm afraid of everyone on the street... honestly, having grown up in a white area, I know how bad white people can be and I'm more afraid of them.
@@Nakia11798 "everyone on the street"
Then proceeds to single out a group based on skin color. Found the closet racist.
Calling someone a “beautiful creature” is kind of just an old white people thing, but putting “black” in there is just adding an adjective that was like throwing fuel on the fire. She didn’t have to insinuate herself into that situation in the first place.
well, english isn't my first language, so maybe that's it, but calling someone a creature just seems really weird. like, tbh it feels a bit degrading yknow? that's a human.
@@uncannyvalley2113 I agree, it’s an outdated phrase, my mom still uses it as a way of saying “a beautiful creature” to a young woman but it’s uncommon today!
Some white people seem to really have difficulty not invading Black spaces and being racist once they get in (by force), and Carmen is one of them
You never know, she could’ve just been calling the “black creatures” from Shadow the Hedgehog beautiful (/s)
@@wildfire9280 it was Shadow the Hedgehog, not SA2.
God I remember this. The white teenage girl eas sheltered but she did sometimes have the right instincts she was sent to a spoken word group for black teens and she was like , "I feel wrong pretending to black to all the black teenagers in the black poetry group it feels creepy that I'm here, this is their space to express themselves.' or. something like that.
God bruno was deeply infuriating. He was like a big brick wall that aggressively deflected everything everyone tried to explain to him in favor of his own world views.
I feel kinda bad for the daughter, she seemed to genuinely wanna learn, and to have gained some insight from certain subtleties on the way black people are often mistreated. I didn't watch the whole show of course, but she appeared like she genuinely wanted to change for the better, while her parents were stuck in their mindsets and only really wanted confirmation for their beliefs.
Honestly, on the topic of racism itself, I think it's important to recognize we *all* have our prejudices, big and small. Nobody exists in a vacuum, and our life and experiences influence how we percieve those we see as "different". I'm not American and I was raised in pretty much exclusively white country, so I could see myself feeling strange and uncomfortable in a place where there were mostly black people. After all, as animals, we are afraid of what we don't know. However, as humans, it's important to recognize this prejudices we may have and work against them. We can't expect ourselves to be pure goodness with nary a negative thought in our heads, nor should we blame ourselves for such feelings - but we should absolutely strive to be better than our basic instincts.
she have a degree on Cultural Anthropology. seems to me she genuinely really wanted to learn.
The "white" family weren't even a real family it was 2 actors and the casting director
I'm gonna point to dogs on this one: It's not "basic instincts". That "you look different" thing you think you see? It's tribalism. It's "you aren't from my pack so I don't like you". And humans have reinforced that us vs them behavior and taught it to their descendents. It's learned, not innate, and it's part of a divide-et-impera tactic that's controlled the crowds since MILLENIA ago when we started fighting each other for territory and resources.
A chihuahua and a great dane will look at each other and think, ANOTHER DOGGO!!!! OH BOY!!!! There's no distrust unless that dog was taught to distrust or had a traumatic experience that makes them scared. Only a dog who's trained or maladjusted will act like a tyrant over another dog-- or a dog who was bred for it, selected for antisocial behavior toward other dogs...
@@neoqwerty The dogs are taking cues from their owners(due to having been bred that way for millennia); without another pack member to give that indication, they would very much be at least suspicious of each other. Humans aren't tribalistic because we're taught; we innately don't trust the "other" because our ancestors were the ones who didn't pay the price for blindly doing so(though if you still believe otherwise, I know a Nigerian prince who could use your help).
@@neoqwerty Tribalism is very much basic instincts in most sociable, inteligent animals though. Apes are very aggresive towards those outside of their pack and even have wars. It’s true most dogs are excited to see each other, but a domestic dog doesn’t really work like a wild animal would. They also don’t judge by looks, but by smell - our noses are just too lame for that. And if a reaction proves at least somewhat beneficial for survival and is passed in one way or another to next generations for thousands of years, it becomes natural instinct, that’s evolution.
Tribalism, if we want to call it that, is good for us in many cases. It’s not very big brained to treat a stranger the same way you treat someone you know and trust. I think it truly is all there is to it - the basic instinct that the unknown should be treated with caution, that can grow and manifest itself as straight up dislike or even hate. Thing is we’re better than that. If we call ourselves masters of the earth and want to rule over literally everything else there is like we do, we need to hold ourselves to a certain fucking standard. Don’t let these monkey brain instincts form whole social or political opinions for us. They’re not smart enough. They’re meant to be fast, not always optimal in every non-emergency situation.
When Carmen said "we all like breasts" and the guy just had the perfect "yep" face killed me.
Bruh, as soon as I saw this comment 💀
‘I think I represent the black race well’
SILENCIO BRUNO!
Bruh you really went silencio on that mf 💀💀💀
U deserve more likes
This is a perfect comment 😂❤
Everyone after the show: "We don't talk about Bruno no no no."
UNDERRATED
I’d like to think that 90% of the stares they got from people were just them trying to decide if they should ask if they’re actually black
Yeah the uncanny valley effect
@@DeathnoteBB not what I’m talking about but that too
@@DeathnoteBB Not what the term means, but I think I get your point.
@@DeathnoteBBnot really, but close enough.
@@DeathnoteBB you're a little confused, but you got the spirit
Bruno and Carmen had the ultimate chance to get a glimpse of being someone completely different.
Getting to know new people, an insight of culture and racism.
-Holy hell they screwed up
The series name was "Black White". Why was it ONLY the responsibility of Carmen and Bruno to gain insight? The needle didn't move in this series because the Sparks were never open to understanding anything the other family had to say. The only thing the Sparks succeeded at in this series is showing their son, who never felt racism before, how racist white people really are. Did they really come on here for a better tomorrow or just to air their grievances about blacks.
I think the problem with Nick's makeup (aside from the fact that he was wearing it in the first place) is that it was predominantly white and missing any subtle colour tones you'd find in naturally-white skin, so it slips into the uncanny valley.
To me, Nick looked convincing as another race, but not as white.
What's the problem with nick wearing the makeup?
He looks like when you see a person with only foundation on really thick with absolutely no blush.
Or Micheal Jackson after evrything.
Bruno's makeup is definitely the worst imo
@@katofphats3689
The difference with MJ is that he had a skin condition, which is a natural, but very uncanny when you remember what he looked like before his vitiligo had spread so much to the point they had to lighten his still dark skin to match the rest. I wonder if he hired black, or white makeup artists to do it, since it feels like it falls into the same “No changes in color” issue.
As an actor, Bruno probably saw this as an opportunity to stretch his acting crops and give himself a higher profile. There's no sign that he truly wanted a deeper understanding of the black experience.
I guess in a way he succeeded in his objective. If he hadn't done this show, nobody'd ever know who he was or remember him. But now he's been immortalized as this rappin' racist clown.
Decided to hit the ground running with something controversial, huh? I've never heard of this... thing, but it sounds like the kind of tone-deaf nonsense that we used to get back in the 90's just for shock value, devoid of anything resembling substance.
Either way, good to have you back dude!
The sad thing is it was made in 2006
O hi krim
Krimson and Cynical are the ultimate dynamic duo in covering...unique media of choice. It's not all bad, but it is all interesting
Oh hello book jesus
He has risen from his book throne...
44:00 "beautiful black creature" that's how i'd describe a dragon in D&D, not a person lol
As a black person (with a Bachelor's and a Master's degree), I can attest to discrimination even when you're the most educated person in the room. For example, I get asked constantly where I learned to speak English. I am an American, but these are Americans asking me where I learned to speak English. Disclaimer: My Bachelor's Degree is in English, and my Master's is in History. On the flip side of that, Black people will accuse me of forgetting where I came from and tell me I am trying to be "white" because I don't sound black when I speak. Disclaimer: My father was a Professor of Chemistry, Biochemistry, and Organic Chemistry. My mother was a social worker. I spent most of my time with my great-grandmother who was the daughter of slaves. My father's father was a sharecropper that lived in a one-room house with my grandmother and 10 children. I can guarantee I know where I came from. I don't have to speak a certain way to prove who I am, nor should I have to. However, my other grandfather's grandfather was German, so he was very light with gray eyes. This show seems to think all black and white people look and/or act a certain way and that is why it literally reinforced stereotypes rather than going through the spectrum of the black/white experience. It also missed the opportunity to give historical perspectives on race relations in a way that gives reasons for disparity rather than just "living" like one race or the other.
Stereotypes are self perpetuating as a black man who got called a coon from liking to read COMIC BOOKS i can empathize with your struggles on both ends
I'm mixed, but not passing. I was told several times in my life, "You speak so well for a black person!" When white people would mistake me for being Latino and I corrected them, some responded with something along the lines of, "And you've never learned Spanish where you live? Aren't there a lot of Puerto Ricans where you grew up?" The height of this was as an administrative assistant at a prestigious university. I once had a colleague tell me, "You'd have better chances in the job market if you learned Spanish!" I asked her, "Do you know Spanish?" She said no, and I asked if she was having trouble finding a job being monolingual. Obviously confused, she was like, "Well I'm not looking, I really like it here." Uh-huh. Or, if I'm interacting with people in a relaxed setting and drift into 'ghetto speak', they're shocked and appalled. 'I didn't know you spoke like *them.'* I'm sorry, like who? Why should I have to sound like you just to be taken seriously? *Ya'll* from the *boonies* with your *drawls* wouldn't know anything about that, would you? And yes, you'll get it from the other side, too, black people who are angry at your verbal-switching, or getting your hair straightened, or anything that could potentially mark you as 'other.'
And while it can be insightful to experience life the way others do, it lacks a great deal of context. Hearing these things when you know that it isn't really *you,* it's a costume you can take off whenever the criticism becomes too great, means it has a lot less impact on your psyche. It'd be like if you're actually 120lbs but wearing a fat suit to appear 400lbs; someone calling you 'fattie' on the street would prolly just get a bemused chuckle. It doesn't actually phase you because you know it's not reality.
@@Datura981 southern people really can't say shit. With their veHICKles
I am struggling to believe everything Bruno did was meant to be taken seriously. I cannot for one moment believe he was doing this for anything other than to bring himself entertainment and put black people in an uncomfortable and inescapable position.
He was a paid actor after all
@@clarehidalgo this was my thought.. maybe the show needs drama?
I honestly just feel really bad for all the black people who had to endure the white family, I could barely deal with them for an hour and had to keep taking extended breaks just to get through it
same.
They weren’t even a real family either.
!!
You can see them doing that whole "I wanna say something but these people are white so I gotta keep my mouth shut or else I'm just that "angry black man/woman stereotype to them" face. I feel so bad for them
I think the fact that they were acting was a big part of it. They were clearly hamming it up so nothing about them was genuine. Idk what they were thinking by having a fake family participate.
As annoying as people overusing "cringe" for every little thing has gotten, I think in this case calling this show cringe is too mild.
Because I felt myself wanting to twist into a pretzel several times watching some of the more tone-deaf moments. Bruno is exactly the best illustration of the "well, _I_ don't feel it, so you must be making shit up/overreacting" type, coupled with the hostile defensiveness at the suggestion he could be wrong/racist that makes him incapable of wanting to examine his own preconceptions. Carmen is little better.
I KNOW, I WANTED TO FUCKING DIE SO BADLY WATCHING BRUNO
His rap had me fucking dying lmfao
Part of Bruno's dismissiveness probably also comes from being a towering giant who isn't physically intimidated by a whole lot of people in everyday life.
we need to make a new word because this show (and bruno’s existence) has outdone the word cringe
Literally pausing every five seconds during Bruno's part
Carmen is so freaking uncomfortable to watch, holy crap. When she snapped at her daughter for trying to educate her, I literally felt like I was gonna throw up. Christ, I hope Rose has gotten away from her shithead parents by now.
This whole show is like the wildest The Office, Parks and Rec, It's Always Sunny-esque skits. The awkward pauses, the unnecessary tendency to put themselves in uncomfortable situations, then your sociopathic lack of social awareness makes this like the funniest satire ever but then you remember that they're real people who live and breathe and have hearts that pump blood in the real world all the time.
heavily edited or scripted
I'm not gonna lie, I had to turn this off a couple of times. I physically cringed during the rapping moments. Secondhand embarrassment is a powerful thing
The segment on Bruno specifically was incredibly hard to watch. He's so fucking dense it's almost impressive.
Seriously. You need a license to be that dense.
I’m hiding in the comments cause this guy is like a fuckin cognitive hazard.
45:54 "I don't wanna have to choose my words." The goddamn fucking hypocrisy. As if we don't all constantly have to choose our words based on context! As if she doesn't know that!
“I don’t want to choose my words”, she says as she CHOOSES to omit the most telling and contextually offensive word from what she originally said.
One insane moment that CJ didn’t mention is that immediately after showing the families his “rap”, Bruno asks Nick if he “felt offended” with absolutely no prompting.
This grown-ass man was attempting to provoke a TEENAGER by mocking his race and culture. He KNEW what he did was offensive and all but admitted he wanted to upset the Sparks, and I’m fully convinced he was trying to make them snap at him so he could perpetuate the stereotype of Black people being “loud and violent.” What a piece of shit.
Every single time you showed Bruno Being Bruno and then showed the black family's reaction I'm just sitting here in full wince like "oh my god I'M SO SORRY" like can Bruno ever just shut up lmao????
I had to skip over parts. It was incredibly difficult to watch him go. I'm of the opinion that people are generally more rational and willing to empathise when not on the Internet, but he seems to be an exception.
This is another one of those reality TV shows that claims that it's an experiment but is so deliberately fabricated that it's obvious from the offset.
It's an interesting idea, but the showrunners aren't really interested in exploring it, just the shock value and engineered scenarios with one of the families just being a bunch of actors. It doesn't want to look beyond racial stereotypes but to reinforce them.
And yet they have educationalpurpose and ending slappd omn? That just makes it wor somehow?
Dude the show runner was ice cube. You know the guy who spent the past 30 years talking about race.
@@JohnGalt916 Still turned out badly though
totally
I’ve seen the excuse “it’s to shock and offended people” used for things like this or “edgy/dark” humour
as a white person, i'll obviously never understand how it feels to be black. but i do know that if i offended someone i don't get to say i don't. i ask if they could explain what i did wrong, apologise and go on. i DON'T fucking scream at them because i am now offended for getting called out. seriously, hearing these people talk gives me a headache.
thank you for this comment
as a white person, if someone tells me something i said is racist or offensive, i’m just gonna apologise and thank them for calling me out. doesn’t matter if it didn’t seem racist to me, i’m white, i’ll never understand what it’s like to be nom white.
@@Moncherelouis then you're a bigger person than 99% of the world
@@mikerussell4751 i don't think i need to be thanked for that, it's just human empathy.
That's actually a good way of also dealing with the more infuriating people who get offended by nothing. If you honestly ask them why what you did was offensive it can reveal their hypocricy
So at "worst" you'll learn when you made a mistake and become a better person. At best you'll hopefully show others that they're assholes
Just don't turn the question into an attack. Don't say things like "Why are you so offended?" in a condensending voice
I guess you don't really expect to see people wearing raceswap make-up in public, so if you saw someone like that walking down the street, you'd just think they look kind of odd, rather than being in blackface. Or maybe people were too polite to comment on it. I don't know.
There a reasonable assumption that the person might just be mixed race. Overall throwing accusations would just create a conflict nobody wants to be a part of.
Yeah I was thinking that, most likely people were aware something about them was unusual but just assume they had different features, were mixed race and maybe just weren’t great at doing their makeup or something. If I see someone with “weird” features my instinct is never gonna be that they’re in race-swap makeup, film crew or no. I don’t even tend to look at people that hard, personally.
There was one big positive thing I learned out of this show: there are whole playgroups of domino players out there. And it is just great, I loved playing this game as a kid.
Agreed! Dominoes and chess were my late uncle's favorite games, and my MIL re-introduced me to dominoes many years ago. Very happy to see it's still played!
Every time Karen- I mean Carmen tries to sound deep or trying to relate to Black people, I can feel my ancestors cringe with me in unison.
Let’s be real this dad is just stright up racist why would you pick him for a show talking about race it’s like they knew what they where doing When they made the show
He has that "I can't be racist, I have a black friend!" energy
@@warlordofbritannia 100% I understand being neiva but he definitely just wanted to be racist without any repercussions
@@redwiltshire1816 shockingly poor taste and controversy get your show a lot of attention, wouldn't surprise me if they were counting on it to get people to watch. Sounds like a mid 2000s mentality
@@zeroattentiongaming820 its just a shame to see an actual interesting concept being completely ruined just for entertainment
@@redwiltshire1816 Ya as bad as the idea sounds, you get the right open minded people who are serious about the job, you might actually accomplish something with an idea like this.
But when you got a guy like Bruno just over the moon about having an N word pass on TV, ya this is going nowhere. Or nowhere good at least.
Look, if you have political statements that you want to make, *DON'T SAY THEM IN BLACKFACE!*
Exactly. Exactly.
true true its weird but thats not blackface, thats a disguise or cosplay. its definitely not trying to mock black people even if it looks bad at times. black people cosplaying as white characters aint whiteface is it?
@@RowBlanka "black people cosplaying as black characters aint whiteface is it?" Explain to me how this sentence makes sense? If it looks bad at time, it's because it's blackface.
@@RainyStast thanks, corrected it.
@@RowBlanka No. most black people will not try to change their skin color in order to cosplay a white character. they may wear makeup but that makeup would do nothing to alter their skin color or ethnic features. they'll wear different accessories and clothing but that will do nothing to their skin color.
it's only blackface or white face when you change your skin color. I'd say the closest would be clown makeup but most white people do not look pure white or anything like the clown makeup people wear so it certainly isn't white face since it's not white people their imitating.
Bruno treats the makeup like an iron man suit, and used the n word like a arc reactor.
I remember when this show came out because my white-as-snow sociology professor had us watch it for four classes in a row to "see the dynamics of race relations." I just remember the father of that family had a fucking hard on for racial slurs.
I'm astonished the race swapping isn't even close to the most racist part of this show lol Brian and his family seemed like good folks I can see why he was so frustrated with Bruno and Carmen
Imagine seeing Peter and Cleveland change pigments and deciding to make that a reality show
That episode came out on 2013-2014, this show came out in 2006.
@@CLAYTERRACOTTA which is why they said 'imagine'
Bruno is definitely a Peter lol
@@CLAYTERRACOTTA what, family guy already made an episode about that??
South Park taught us best with the “I don’t get it” speech at the end of the Wheel of Fortune episode. If you are not black you will never understand the hurt that word causes specifically to black people, but it’s not okay to pretend you understand or to claim you know what it’s like when you don’t. The best you can do is empathize and be better.
You realize your stance is quite literally segregationist in it of itself, right?
@@wolfetteplays8894 No it’s not. Because Bruno is an example of someone who claims they “get it” and thus dismisses all of Brian’s feelings on the issue because of that. All I said was you need to understand that certain words do hurt people and you should respect someone’s feelings even if you don’t personally understand it.
@@zogwort1522 honestly i think they meant sympathizing
@@zogwort1522 Sympathy is feeling sorry for someone. Empathy is basically being able to put yourself into someone else's shoes, and actually understand where they're coming from.
@@zogwort1522 It's like the difference between having your child die and knowing someone whose child died. You can imagine the experience and be very saddened, but unless you experience the pain of losing a child first hand you can never truly know. You can only offer support to the person who is experiencing it.
There are many pains we can only ever imagine. Often times, claiming that we understand them fully is offensive to the person who must live with that suffering, especially when it seems to turn the spotlight on to us and the pain it makes *us* feel, rather than focusing on the problems of the victim.
We can support and emphasize without fully understanding. Wrongly claiming understanding is not very comforting. Trying to understand while being conscious of our limits is often the best way approach our experiences with empathy.
I was actual required to watch this show in health class in 8th grade. Perhaps this was the shows Target demographic: students required to take sensitivity training. Well it wasn’t enjoyable for us either.
You know it's bad when the high schoolers would rather be studying than watching it.
I'm clearly a white guy. I'm 6ft shaved head and tattoos. I also grew up in Wolverhampton and had friends from all walks of life. My grandad was an Indian man who married a white woman, he was marginalized from being a white "Indian" even though he was dark, he experienced racism out the ass when he met my nan and likewise my nan did as well for being with my grandad. My niece and nephew are black, and my niece has been racially absused by a young black girl for not being black enough because she's lighter skinned. The point I'm trying to make here is that racism is not exclusive to just black and white, it's negatively nuanced from all aspects and can come from everywhere. The lack of understanding of a person's background and also the lack of interaction through diversity is often the issue. I caught shit for having an Indian grandad, I've been called out on having a beautiful niece and nephew by people who don't understand that a white guy can have so much inclusion in his history. My Asian friends used to use the term white to explain who I was or ripping me for banter. I didn't mind and still don't but it's molded my attitude that people are people regardless of what skin colour you are. It's sad it exists and a show like this could of done some serious exploring but looks like it never did (I understand no one would want to be beaten over the head with messages and it was probably just for entertainment value tbh, I mean it was the 00s). Saying that my friends are my friends and my family are my family regardless of skin tone, and delving deeper into a person's history will explain more about their attitudes than just white face/black face. Also what a wild fucking idea for a show 🤣
@sewer~rat think you missed the point but would love to know why you think it's a "white take" when half my family are Asian 😅
@sewer~rat “this is incredibly white” in response to people treating him as nothing but white when he’s ethnically mixed just because of his skin colour BRUH do you have a crumb of awareness
God bless you, brother 🫱🏻🫲🏿
Bruno actually has that Michael Scott personality when it comes to race relations
I'd pay a few bucks to see "Prison Bruno," haha.
He looks like an evil Steve Carell as well? It's horrifying
When mans said “I was waiting for someone to come up to me and say HEY N****!” I had to drop everything I was doing to give this video my full undivided attention.
Edit- ok now that I’ve watched most of the video, Bruno is WILD, and not in a good way.
I hate how desperate Bruno was to say the N word. Look I’m white so I’m not sure if I have a say in this but I’m fine never saying that word. It’s a straight up racial slur.
Yeah and these families are walking stereotypes.
I'm black and even I barely use the word. This guy is waiting for the chance to say it as much as he wants
@@InsomniacFlaaffy No one should WANT to say it.
It's a very childish mentality to want to do things just because you're told not to. There is no other reason why some white people insist that they should be allowed to use the word.
@@Diinytro *No non-Black person should want to say it
He's racist af. This show just gave him the platform and opportunities to display that racism
I fully believe Bruno & Carmen would've did some weird sexual role-play while in make.up if the show didn't insist on only having the families in make-up while filming for the show.
But by today's standards for reality TV, I'm sure they would've attempted to film it either way for shock.
the young white girl actually quit acting after this. She was apparently in Disney productions too prior to this
The thing about Sprigle and Griffin is that what they did was born out of pure intentions and ultimately got results. They weren't trying to make a mockery of black people and they weren't trying to make cheap entertainment like this show. It was earnest journalism designed to empathize with and shine a light on the plight of black people, and like you said, they risked their lives to do it. They put themselves in danger to try and help others, and I respect that.
Also Brian looks like the white reporter from Chappelle's Show.
Hell of a welcome back. I’ve seen some people break down clips of this but this is the first time I’ve seen a full break down. I think the “cast” adds many layers to the ridiculous offense nature of an otherwise interesting concept.
The premise alone is just a huge yikes. But if this was done in the 1950’s it probably would’ve so much worse.!
I disagree-if it was from the ‘50s, it’d be way easier to laugh off
This….this is just sad, not to mention mildly disturbing
@@warlordofbritannia Reminds me of a 50's commercial with an aunt Jemima towel holder (described as "southern hospitality").
When you see that, you think: "Lmao, people sure were racist back then. Good thing that would never fly today."
But if you look over and see it on the shelves now, you think: "Goddammit, we're still racist"
@@nbewarwe Bruh, that one Jack video.
"See, they've all figured it out!"
"With a touch of southern hospitality"
😨
Yep
That's very true
Dogging on Trudeau's blackface on Canada Day is fucking legendary
as a Canadian, i'm truly fucking embarassed. On behalf of all Canadians : sorry.🍁
I love your username
i have a theory
i think the creators intentionally asked the white family to act awkward and insensetive because it would look more shocking and get more people watching
both adults were actors and they both seem really unnatural and exaggerated.
Not unlikely, but Bruno still seems really excited to say racial slurs.
I'm very skeptical of all reality TV. All seems staged. What's more shocking is that they got actors to participate in this nonsense
It actually HAD been done before, in 2005, in the UK. Race Swap featured Linford Christie made up to look white, and Samantha Fox made up to look Indian. So, not really a swap, but I think even Channel 5 figured blackface would be a step too far for them.
Whites and northern India’s can look similar as well
As a 2000s kid, can confirm that was THE decade for reality shows 😆
I don’t think I’ve ever said ‘BRUH’ in a total and absolute cringe shock manner in a single hour more in my life
HOW do you pass off as someone of a different race when NONE of your features even remotely align? 🤣 It's like Pennywise just wiping the makeup off his face. Ya ain't fooling nobody 😅
Careful, you don't want people to think you think that physical features occur in rough patterns among ethnicities. That's basically the same thing as white supremacy now.
I feel like people who try to “race swap” like this don’t understand that darker skin doesn’t suddenly make you look black. A lighter skinned person may look more black than a dark skinned person. It boils down to features, and skin tone is just one feature. It’s just the feature that you notice first.
Yeah you can definitely tell with Bruno that something is very off with him in his makeup. Looking like he from a PS1 game.
I think Renee's was the worst. Her facial features couldn't be hidden. Bruno passed as black, like CR said, he looked like a less rapey Bill Cosby. Because we know he's white and such an idiot, it ruins the effect.
Exactly. Race isn’t just skin color. There’s ethnic features and even different skull structures
Bruno strikes me as the kind of person who envisions progress in the world as a hill you climb, and that EVERYONE starts at the same position and has the exact same capability to get to the top of that hill if they just put in the same effort, and anyone who doesn't reach the top clearly just wasn't trying hard enough, while at the same time being blindly, boldly ignorant to the readily apparent fact that _not everyone starts ascending at the same point on that hill._ Different circumstances in life _will_ give individuals a higher or lower starting point, and _on top of that_ some people have more of a clear path already treaded down to reach the top, while others still have raw forest to navigate through to reach the same points.
The world to Bruno is what he envisions in his mind, and he's stubbornly insisting on keeping that view of it regardless of what anyone says, leaving him unable to understand why when he tells people "You get out of life what you put into it" people respond, rightly so, with "That's some real ignorant bs right there fella".
Robert Downey was hilarious in tropic thunder. With the actualy black guy constantly calling him out for his bullsh1t🤣
That was an awesome movie 😆
If a neighborhood is just a little racist, it's probably super easy to get a jump if you're black, it means you're leaving. They should have pretended they were house-hunting.
I think they made a huge mistake with who they selected for the experiment with this one. Bruno is just an asshole using the experiment as an excuse to peddle his problematic shittakes. This could have been something, perhaps a way to show how race relations were in the 2000s, what had changed, and what still needed to change. I do appreciate you bringing up the context surrounding what is and isn’t considered blackface as well as addressing what the point of RDJ’s character in Tropic Thunder was about; I hardly hear anyone consider context anymore, so thank you for going into that topic.
(Another example is how the movie Blazing Saddles was literally making the point that racism is bad and just makes people look stupid/foolish, but that’s a different conversation for a different day.)
I remember watching this show when it was on tv. It was frustrating how oblivious the white participants were about black culture, and I don’t know how no one could figure out that the physical features on both sides didn’t match their skin color.
I hated Bruno because he never got it. And why should he? He and his family knew they only had to be black for a limited time in a diverse area.
Their features weren't obvious because race distinctions are statistical, not set in stone, and mixed heritages very much exist. Also there are lots of face types in the world for all the skin colours.
Because they think black people are cute little pets. They don't see them as people.
Hi there. There is no set facical feature for Black Americans nor Africans. Some have narrow noses, some have wide, some have flat noses. Just like not all of us have kinky hair, some of us have 4a-4c curl patterns. My mom who is not mixed but has Dominican roots has loose curls whilst my Dad who is half Indian has more curls than her lol. It also depends on where their ancestors are from, if their mixed with another African tribes or have European mixture. Also we can fair skinned with no mixture or with mixture, Black as stone or brown as clay. I really wish people would stop saying that Black American have certain features. That's like saying Asians all have a certain look when that is not true. There may be share features but we don't have one type of facial features. Hope I explained that.
Biracial here, going off your comment you'd probably be very frustrated by me and my sister's faces 😆
@@missauroraroseblairsays while that may be true some generalizations are accurate. Not all black people have afros, but most afros are worn by black people. Not all Asians have insanely straight hair but most Asian people and indigenous Americans have really straight hair. There are genetic predispositions to certain features and conditions. Just because people are different doesn't mean they are better or worse. Kind of disingenuous to assume just because someone points out differences and patterns, that means it's inherently a bad thing.
Spending a day or two pretending to be a marginalized person could never show you what their life is struggles are. Im 29 and I've been physically handicapped for 21 years. Even though plenty of people choose to be kind and help, I can't tell you how many people treat you like you're invisible or, in the worst case scenario, become aggressive toward you. I've been yelled at for not moving AROUND people and I've also been yelled at for asking someone to please move so I could get around them. Nobody chooses to be born as they are, they just are. So people need to stop hating others for being different from yourself. Nobody needs to be on a ridiculous show like this to know that.
People pretend you're invisible? Here's news, non-disabled people don't meet eyelines and say hello to every single person we pass, either. They're treating you like they would any other _normal person._ Isn't that what you want? You've been yelled at in both the affirmative and the negative of the same situation? - Amazing.. So has everyone without a disability. People are assholes and you personally don't seem to be able to decide if you want to be special or not. You winge about not being noticed, not being special, but at the same time complain about being yelled at because you _are_ special. So which is it? Which do you want?
You're not fucking special. Stop fucking whining about how you get treated because it's exactly the same as everyone else.
Strange idea for a tv show, but ultimately very telling. As an Asian living in Australia, I get a lot of casual racism comments from strangers and even my classmates. It's honestly really sad and I sympathise with other racial minorities and in this case, black people.
While I understand why you say this is and isn’t blackface, I think this is a good example to show how things change in society. Blackface is now seen as trying to appear black for theatre, which is what this is. Doesn’t really matter the intentions anymore. Most racism people face now isn’t a burning cross on their lawn. It’s usually repetitive torment (obvious or subtle) on a person-to-person basis. I think the reason people aren’t sympathetic to us black people is that they’re focused on what words used to mean.
well said
you hit the nail on the head. Bruno seems to think that racism towards black people only exist as these very overt actions of yesteryear, like a cross burning on your lawn. meanwhile, his daughter notes the different way people interacted with her when she was walking around a predominantly white neighborhood that she's gone to before. like... would they seriously tell her that they were out of job applications if she went back there the next day as her white self? the saddest part of this is that after this, Bruno will spend the rest of his life convinced that he has confirmed for himself first-hand that racism towards black people no longer exists in America.
We're in a post-context, post-intention world. Everything is seen in a vacuum, because that's what twitter is. Each individual message has its own url, and is ultimately evaluated on its own, which is why you couldn't pay me to use twitter.
Or we just deal with our own sh!t and think you should deal with your own
@@mariusvanc oh this concept is way older than that. Reification as a cultural phenomenon has always been present. However, in the modern world, messages can now be repeated at nausea and propagated throughout the world making the process reach sky high levels of magnitude. As a non American i can only interact with these issues through oversimplified, hyper aggressive content (i.e. le Twitter hot takes, corporate pandering etc) and as a result I've always felt confused and alienated because, as you said, context is often discarded
The amount of racism and white fragility in this show annoys me so much! Bruno and his wife are so toxic and it's crazy that they think there's nothing wrong with any of their actions and refuse to listen or change
Like, they're literally that white racist liberal stereotype. Carmen clearly sees black people as some exotic jungle species the way she talks about them and Bruno is just a racist who wants to claim racism doesn't exist with his bootstrap bs.
Yeah, and if there were just a couple cases of social faux pas because of some stereotypes she'd internalised from a sheltered upbringing, that'd be at least understandable and kind of feed into the supposed purpose of the show. It'd still be cringy and bad but at least when you hear negative reactions from other people in that sort of controlled environment, you can hear them out and reflect on it perhaps more easily than in everyday life. Instead nah, she quadruples right down on it and doesn't even entertain the idea that black people are humans, not walking cartoon mashups of said stereotypes seemingly only there as set dressing for her life.
The white family was more cringe, but the black family had their moments of being in the wrong too. All in all no one was 100% right from what I saw
The "white" family wasn't even a real family but 2 paid actors and the casting director
I’m pretty sure the white “family” was just 3 unrelated actors
Ugh, Bruno stinks of privilege (or he's just deluded, or maybe both). The people who glorify personal responsibility are almost always the kind of people who had help from teachers, family, friends etc., refuse to acknowledge their advantages and opportunities, and act like they did everything through just grit and determination. Society isn't isolated. People aren't alone, and while that means that people can sometimes get help when they need it and should consider how their actions impact others, it also means it isn't just their actions that affect their lives. It really pisses me off when people use "personal responsibility" as an excuse to not critically examine the failures of the government, society and their own personal conduct.
yes, survivorship bias. it's honestly amazing how capitalism has convinced a social species that we are not social and all our achievements were made on our own. most of us wouldn't even be here past birth if it wasn't for our species being social, but sure...Bruno is "self made", he just had to work hard that's all (it's amazing how they're ALWAYS self made)
Yeah he really acts like he either doesn't know or doesn't care about any advantages he most likely had in life.
And this "entirely self made" attitude frustrates me to no end because it feels like it's one of the causes why people (for example, neurodivergent ppl) are afraid to ask for help or accomodations.
I feel like my dad tends to be this honestly
@@mischr13 What does capitalism have to do with social irresponsibility?
@@Hoganply He means Laissez-Faire capitalism (which places heavy emphasis on personal responsibility)which according to the American Right is the only form of capitalism.
🎶We don’t talk about Bruno…
But- it was a filming day.
We were getting ready and there wasn’t a cloud in the sky.
Bruno walks in
And the cringe did heighten…🎶
One thing about make-up is, things tend to look a bit different on camera. Like, you actually sort of need make-up just to look natural on TV. At the same time, that might mean that the make-up in the show might have been more convincing face-to-face that it looks.
thank you for this video , being a native american i have suffered similar but obviously not the same types of racism and issues but people need to learn to just get along .. imagine the world we could create if we all worked together as one ! love all your videos man and the fact you can rag on your british heriditary just makes me enjoy it even more :) thanks again stay safe my man .
I hate reality television. This show did not change my mind.
"We are going to show racism on TV, and if nothing comes up, we will manufacture some for money! What could go wrong?"
- The producers, probably
Thank you for putting your sanity at risk for the sake of entertainign us.
Ice Cube has a lot to answer for.
In retrospect this show is an intriguing look at how disconnected certain white people are from the idea of race, how they operate in this weird ahistorical realm of denial and ignorance. The early 2000s especially feels like a continuation of the self-back-patting 90s, except in the 2000s the world of reality TV led to people shedding all sense of decency and logic.
The "white" family isn't even real the articles about the show say they are paid actors
Maybe like how some black people deny that other races are victim of racism too. Or how they're trying very hard to forget that african tribes have always enslaved and killed each other before anyone set foot on Africa. I was born in Madagascar and even there, there are cases of racism between each region. Some black people who have settled in developed countries have even come to dislike their roots. You seem to be disconnected as well.
the shit u said is more racist
Funny how nick, the son in the black family saw no point to the whole racism exercise. He said he never experiences racism. Hmm I guess we ARE a much different country than we were 60 years ago despite what the race hustlers try to push. If there was no racism, al Sharpton would be broke right now. Morgan freeman said the way to stop racism is to just stop talking about it
@@LLewliet-pz6ve wtf is your point dum dum?
This needs to be series, i want bruno mimicking a german so hard now
I wake up every morning saluting to Hitler and eat sausage and drink beer every meal. I also listen to Beethoven while going to start another world war.
(This is meant to be a joke. Sorry if I offend anyone with the “stereotypes”.)
The part starting around 17:30 is pretty common here in the Netherlands, regardless of skin color.
Especially in cities, many people will look the other way or flat out ignore any random stranger that greets them or tries to talk to them.
Like "What do want from me? Go away." 😂
In the UK, people actively avoid eachother. We generally don't speak to eachother unless there is an emergency
Americans are very friendly, so it's not normal. There's usually at least a minimal exchange.
In the US were friendly to an obnoxious degree
yeah but this takes place in America. people greet you and you greet them back. it's a manners thing, we do it as soon as we can talk. it's pretty rude to ignore a greeting, even from a stranger, and pretty much the only reason we wouldn't is if we ABSOLUTELY do not want to associate with them, like if someone were, say...blackfacing in public to throw out a random example 💀
@@20dabarr58 nah that depends where in the uk u live, some places I know of in uk everyone talks to everyone
I found it insane thta the show never acknowleges that the reason most people reacted in a negative manour was because they could clearly see that they're in makeup and so pushes forward the idea that thye hold racist mindsets. I don't know how this was made
Several interactions were clearly staged as well. I don't care how racist somebody might actually be, nobody's going to saddle up next to somebody they've never met and open the conversation with a racist screed.
Bits like the white family realising that they were appreciated less by the people around them in their own community when they "switched" race is genuinely quite eye-opening. Wish they just had stuff like that and cut out all the other things...
Carmen feeling other people’s hair at that point stops being a white woman trying to be a black woman and instead becomes an alien trying to impersonate humans.
Bruno reminds me of this pastor whose church I used to go to. My parents never understood why I never joined that particular church, but that's why
Welcome back!
Jordan Peeles get out describes the Wurgels family perfectly. Maybe he saw this show and it helped inspire the movie Get Out XD
I remember my mom watching this thing, and I couldn't help thinking Bruno was incredibly fucking racist.
I am so white I could be used as a signal reflector and I'm cringing at how that creep seems to think he knows everything about black culture despite being utterly clueless
I spat out my water reading your description of yourself. Absolutely hilarious because I'm the same way too!
If you need to take another break after analyzing this, we'll 100% get why 😅
yeah.
If I had to take breaks while watching it, I can only imagine what it was like putting this video together!
28:14 I like how even the makeup person looks uncomfortable about what Bruno's saying
Glad to see you back! Hope you had a good break! Also I love the use of Zach screaming about the pentagon. Perfect.
This was an... interesting watch. I found myself in gut wrenching laughter at how hilariously disconnected Bruno and Carmen were while saying out loud, "This can't be real! You can't be serious?!"
Also slight correction at 35:09 the gentleman's name is Pullum, Fernando Pullum. Pullman made me chuckle though, sounds like a Robot Master.
It looks like the break has done you well. And I actually remember when this show came out. I didn't watch it but my parents who aren't the most aware of social situations actually commented on the ads to my brother and I that it wouldn't work because your race is a lived experience more than anything.
I can't be the only millennial that saw this show when it aired, right? I was starting to think it was a fever dream bc no one knew what I was talking about
This series literally feels like both the Eddie Murphy “white like me” snl skit, and the wife swap skit from chappelle show. And those are much much better than this series.