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I literally got monsters and mazes as a surprise gift for my buddy's birthday because he didn't know it existed and now he saw this and wants to get a copy -__________-
Lady: These games are so violence oriented Every DnD game I have ever played: please stop trying to seduce the gelatinous cube I’m not going to let it work
And when that's stated outright, the bard goes "what do I have to multiclass to so I can get it as a pet then?". People really want a gelatinous cube as a pet NPC...
@@scotthewitt258 my former best friend beileves adolf hitler invinted d and d he thinks d and d is about devil worshipers and killing jews no joke either
dm: will you stop trying to have sex with everything! me: show the rule where it says i can't! dm: i keep telling you that's no........ me: YOU'RE JUST SCARED OF NEW METHODS! dm: *sighs* ok fine your fighter pulls down his pants...........
My DM: please don’t a Me: I must! DM: You’re trying to help this man! Me: There is no other way! DM: Roll constitution! Me: 12! DM: The farmer simply stares in horror as the dragon born bard jester from the party he hired to kill werewolves, inhales about one ounce of table salt into his nostril.
My dm had trouble finding the powers and moves used in Naruto because one of my dnd members turned into an anime girl from a magical orb and wanted to blast open a door by using anime powers …yknow maybe they weren’t far off when saying that dnd was satanic- /j
Or if you wanna go with video games instead, play any Mario Party game. Or if you want something different and more obscure, break out the PS2 or Wii and play Dokapon Kingdom.
I grew up in this era, suffered from anxiety and depression as well. Some church folks found out and confronted my mother about why she let me play this evil game. Her response, "Shes interacting with people and doing math!" one of her cool moments.
May I borrow your mother? 😉 Mine demonized (and also hugely exacerbated) my depression, and would have surely burned me at the stake had I been a tabletop gamer. I'm glad your mom had your back, friend.
@@semperfi818 I’ll adopt you. I’m not a tabletop gamer but my boyfriend is and wants to teach our kids various games when they get older. He’s already got our three old obsessed with Breath of the Wild.
Karens: "Don't let your kids play video games! That'll make them violent!" Also Karens: "Don't let your kids use their imagination! That'll make them violent!"
@gamewizard I "I cast FORCECAGE" *DM reads force cage in a panic, not realizing that the 13th level wizard could cast that, sweating, realizes this cancels out his entire encounter*
@Rechordian Not when you can have the Wizard cast Simulacrum on the Arcane Trickster, have them both hide, make them waste the Tarrasque's legendary resistance, cast polymorph on it until it fails, and then Power Word Kill it.
Wait a minute don't you also roll dice every time you try to do something to determine whether you'll intentionally fuck up or try your hardest to succeed? Or is that just me being a masochist.
Replace "D&D" with "video games". Same shit, different game. I honestly struggle understanding how any adult human being could actually come to the conclusion that a hobby like that could lead to actual harm on people. Does dressing up as Santa Claus on Christmas cause mass hallucinations in kids? Like... What?!
@@_extrathicc and ironically enough, the Romans said it about Christianity once upon a time. Humans will always be our reactionary stupid selves, just trade out the new thing to panic about.
D&D is a game. It was always about games. And the basic reasoning to most people, those unaware or ignorant of the specifics of the games in question, is actually sound. We created games in the first place to teach children behaviors we want them to voluntarily execute on. What we called 'Chutes and Ladders' in the United States (it was first played in India centuries ago) is probably most famous example, because it's debatably the single most blatant in forcing you to learn the lesson to progress, but most other games establish similar lessons. Chess teaches you to expend resources in order to accomplish goals. 'Mafia' teaches you how to determine who is a threat to the group and who is not, to use a more recent example. That's the scrap of truth at the core of all the nonsense. Games do in fact teach behaviors to people. Most people just fail to understand what those behaviors are, as they look at the skin on top of the game and make judgements based on that, rather than what the actual game makes you actually do to achieve your goals. D&D teaches you to imagine a world, and explore other people's imaginations. It's a profoundly effective tool for teaching good storytelling and social skills, such as understanding how other people think and sympathizing with them. It also teaches you the important lesson that, although we do have a variety of skills and abilities to bias the dice, it is luck that determines what ultimately happens, not the individual's actual abilities.
Almost as wild as learning that Brie Larson played one of Ramona Flowers' seven evil exes in the Scott Pilgrim film. ...I've probably ruined that film for a couple of people now. Not to worry, I felt the same way.
I find Doki Doki literature Club I there in peak Indie Games, up there with games like Bendy and the Ink Machine and Undertale, because of the story and what happens. But blaming a death on a game made to be disturbing and that is like blaming BATIM for ink poisoning and Undertale for Murder or Jumpers (you know which I mean)
I can't remember the name of the movie, but there was a movie I saw that spoke of the real story - how the police simply blamed a murder of a young girl on her brother and his friends because they were D&D players, instead of actually investigating further because it was convenient. They badgered the "suspected" brother of the girl into admiting he committed the crime, which lead to a court case when the parents found out the Police forced they're son into admiting he was the murderer by badgering and lying to him. Meanwhile, the media was spinning the story about how D&D lead to this. Eventually, the real murderer was caught (a typical psychopath that was on parole) and the charges were dropped against the children, but the media continued they're D&D fear mongering.
Sounds like a pretty typical case of a bad cop going for the "obvious" answer instead of following evidence (Its almost always the family, so it's always the family). D&D was just the convenient scapegoat. Poor kid.
@@isauldron4337 That, and possible Police corruption and ignorance. Besides the Investigators in the case not understanding that the toys they found were just toys (like thinking a plastic dagger inspired the kids to use a real knife), there has been cases where the Police would make wrongful arrests and badger people - usually teenagers because they're easier to manipulate - into falsely confessing, and back then it happened quite a lot actually and this story was one such case, because it usually meant less paperwork, less actual work, and extra bucks in they're paychecks for every successful arrest they made. That said, I don't want to give the wrong impression that I believe or say that this happens all the time when it comes to law enforcement - because it doesn't. Just that once in a blue moon it does and has happened before because human beings are human beings, and this was one such case where it came out that it happened.
@@Etherman7 Yep. If I remember correctly, the movie said one or two of the officers thought it was rubbish and continued the investigation whilst the other 3 officers went on with they're witch hunt (pardon the pun.) The parents of the kid also got a lawyer that went over the confession tape and was able to point out every time the Police badgered the "suspect" along with denying him food and water for 24 hours and not allowing him a phone call (infact, the officers told the kid his parents disowned him.) Eventually, the other two officers actually doing they're job interviewed witnesses that saw a stranger roaming around the neighborhood during the week of the murder, and after following that trail of bread crumbs eventually caught the real murderer - an ex-convict that was out on parole. (or he Escaped, I can't remember which.)
80s: "These kids played D&D 16 hours a day." Today: "So guys, Dan can play every 3rd Wednesday for 1.5 hours, but Riley can only play for 15 mins at a time every other Saturday, but not during any month with a commercialized holiday."
Robbie: Obviously has paranoid schizophrenia resulting from the trauma of losing his brother and not receiving closure. This movie: No, Dungeons and - I mean - MAZES AND MONSTERS made him crazy.
I can't imagine how nightmarish that would be to DM. Only way I can possibly see playing 16 hours a day is if you have like 30 different campaigns that you jet between every week
Can't wait for the sequel: SYNDICATE, the true story of how playing Monopoly turned our youth into ruthless capitalists. *It's not whether you win, it's who you killed to get there*
Most adventures. It's like saying Doom is trying to see you become a devil worshiper. I'm pretty sure Doom is the opposite of that just after 15 seconds of watching the games.
@@alnu8355 doom is a devil worshipping game meanwhile: in doom you stomp on a demons head so hard that it pops like a balloon and rip one in half with your bare hands.
"Gather up all your occult paraphernalia. The rock music, occult books, including those by C S Lewis and J R R Tolkein!" -- you know, those very publicly Christian writers. These filmmakers were genius, I love it!
The sad thing is, while the movie itself was a parody of a feat-monger comic strip, the actual comic strip DOES specifically call out those two authors. So, yeah...
I heard some guy said Taco Bell was demonic. I can’t even. (Edit: Did I mention that it’s the same guy who dedicated an entire sermon to condemning Pokémon and Magic the Gathering (but more so Pokémon) being demonic while also saying that they’re the same entity because they shared a distributor?)
This guy calling C.S. Lewis's books "occult books" clearly has no idea that the man literally wrote books about his Christian faith...and Tolkien was a self-proclaimed Christian as well...
Yeah. Roman Catholics like me are pretty chill about D&D and books. In fact, we kinda worship Aslan from Narnia as Jesus Christ himself, because he literally is a Jesus allegory
Them, back then: “D&D IS EVIL AND BAD IT’LL CAUSE VIOLENCE!!!” My D&D character: A tired bisexual goblin blacksmith dad who is just there to drink coffee and keep his stupid party children in line. Fr, we had an entire mini story line where my character tries to find the best coffee.
I love how in Dark Dungeons they list CS Lewis as one of the occult authors LITERALLY EVERY ASPECT OF THE NARNIA SERIES WERE ALLEGORIES FOR BIBLICAL EVENTS
@@caiawlodarski5339 The movie was, but the comic WAS NOT. The movie was adapted from a Chick Tract. Chick Tracts were a series of comics by Jack T. Chick, who genuinely meant for them to be taken seriously. Also, Chick Publishing (the company that still releases Chick Tracts to this day) is considered an active hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center, because of how anti-Muslim and anti-Catholic some of the tracts are.
Kid: is a micromanaged by their parents their entire lives and taught that their self worth is is based entirely on their grades so they block out everything that isn’t work since it’s the only way that they can receive validation from their parents and as a result they become hyper-critical of any flaw that they find in themselves which makes it harder to socialize with others which leads to loneliness which further damages their mental state and reinforces their worldview that the reason no one likes them is because they are failing in someway and when they finally fail due to literally any reason they breakdown believing that since they failed there is no other reason to go on living since no one can ever love them if they are a failure Parents: oh yeah it’s the dnd game that teaches acting skills which have been proven to be good for you oh and creative writing skills, forcing the players into situations where they have to be clever and think on their feet oh also all the math that they have to do
@D Zuke um, did you read my post? I’m saying that if you teach a kid to associate grades with parental love, you are not going to get a healthy person. I’m not saying to cuddle your kids, I’m saying not to emotionally abuse your FRIKIN kids.
My mother once directed a production of “She Kills Monsters,” a D&D gamer girl play that’s also a lesbian coming-out story, and it was performed in a small theater below a church, and the bishop went to see it and wrote my mother a letter about how much he loved it.
That's so cool! I love hearing about obviously religious people who actually love thy neighbor and can see stuff like DnD or Pokemon for what they are - fun ways to spend time with with your imagination and friends.
It's absurd. Lewis was a Christian for much of his life, and was able to incorporate religious themes without his novels turning into a sermon. Similarly, Tolkien also worked religious symbolism into his novels. So no, not occult authors at all.
@@thomasoates3003 Yeah, though I would say that Tolkien wasn't trying to create allegory, rather he used Christianity, along with many other ancient and contemporary religions, as inspiration for his world, especially in the Silmarillion. I can see how these super-fundamentalist evangelicals could see that as "demonic", though it's still stupid.
@@goldh2o543 Tolkien wanted to introduce Christian values in a pagan world, mainly the Christian core ideas on free will. In a way Tolkien shows how non-believers, who have no idea of god, can be proper Christians, which is a point of view actual Christianity desperately needs. Tolkien's work is what makes me respect some Christian values as an atheist, which is quite the accomplishment.
It's 'rationalising' logic. Religious people and conservatives use it all the time because it presents a theoretical argument that is, effectively, it's own evidence. RPGs are evil; well they could be more than imagination! (Why: because RPGs are evil). It's completely circular.
When my mom found my DnD books she cried. A bunch of church denominations even banded together and made a summer camp where they sent their kids to brainwash them into how DnD was satanic. Fortunately I didn't get sent to that. But I did get sent to a camp about music and hard rock. These were crazy times.
@Alexander Dunnill the times change but the stupidity doesn't. We had satanic panic for dnd and music. Today people panic over Jewish space lasers, stolen elections, and bamboo in ballots.
The argument of "players lose touch with reality!" kills me bc I suffer from pychosis with frequent hallucinations and delusions. I've literally never hallucinated anythin close to DnD or thought I was my characters?? In fact, I've used roleplay characters to help me manage specific fears caused by my delusions. Of course DnD could hypothetically be dangerous to some psychotic people, but literally every psychotic person I know includin myself actively benefit from playin DnD
If a person is gonna have a psychotic breakdown and kill someone, it's not gonna be because of a game. Like, how do these people justify the rest of the world population that never had anything to do with what they deem satanic, but still have psychotic breakdowns and kill someone?
@@THEPELADOMASTER I think it’s something on the lines of “new thing scary, my kid is having fun with a thing I don’t understand so I will assume it’s hurting them because if I demonise an external force I won’t have to address the fact that my kid is growing up and is in fact their own person and not just an extension of myself.”
When my partner had her second major episode (the one that landed her in a mental health facility), her hallucinations were heavily centered around the christian God talking to her and telling her that everyone's sinned. If D&D is so bad, then why is Christianity fine? They're both pretty batshit. In fact, there's even been a few studies showing that christianity may have lead to modern symptoms of schizophrenia, and that largely christian nations have patients with more negative and aggressive hallucinations, whereas many other countries (asia, the pacific islands, etc) have more supportive or neutral hallucinations.
What? Like, I can see them linking the jedi to a cult bc it's a weird religion that just picks up orphan luke and gives him magic, but yoda having three fingers is what they went after? How?
The lawful good paladin who just wants to save all the NPCs, social good druid who I have never seen actually attack any monsters and true neautral cleric who comforts characters with tragic backstories from my campaign...do they sound dangerous???
I love Bender’s game for mocking the hysteria To quote RationalWiki of all websites “The difference between Gygax and those who believed he promoted Satanism was that when Gygax pretended to be a righteous crusader against evil, he knew it was all in his head.”
Only time I've ever read RationalWiki was when thex criticize the absolute most insane shit ever Seriously Conservipedia's Math is some of the worst I've ever seen, glad they dug through it, I couldn't possibly finish my degree from brain damage if I trued reading the source
You would think at some point that people would realize that the presence of popular media in someone's home has very little to do with a crime they committed and more to do with the rest of their life that wasn't involved in that crime.
From paper to video games you will always find people complaining that the newest invention is "ruining the youth" (Seriously you can find quotes condemming the use of paper in schools as then kids won't learn to use the small chalk boards and "you won't always have paper to write on", similarly for lined paper)
@@TheLuckySpades I once found old newspaper segment about how two young boys who committed a murder were addicted to dime store novels, and another that explained reading as something that should be done carefully, and by the right people, almost as if reading was drugs.
@@thrawnnoconnection6931 Ancient Greek philosophers used to condemn *writing* . They said it atrophied the brain and harmed memory capacity. Moral of the story: new media will always be portrayed as evil and used as a scapegoat for bad things.
Ahh... My mom once thought DnD was that bad. She brought up an example of someone killing himself because he had "healing spells", JUST like that opening commercial, and warned me to never get into it because I could end up like that. Eventually after I got into it in college, I got to play DnD and explained the big scare and she is now very supportive of my DnD playing.
If that ever happened, it never was because of the game, but that person's inability to separate fantasy from reality, which stems from mental health problems
Always felt like it was a misunderstanding of spell slots. Because "You can’t make it" followed by "I have spell slots" would be something said at a DND table.
Dungeons and dragons as portrayed in the media: evil satanic worshippers who want to kill themselves and others Dungeons and dragons players irl: I found this goblin named boblin and he’s my best friend
No but really. I wasn't in this campaign, but i got to hear about it. The party basically adopted this small sized humanoid creature (it's been a while, okay?) that they took on all their adventures. One of the characters got blinded and so the npc sat on their shoulder and helped them aim for ranged spells.
Holy shit it worked! My tits grew three sizes, my hair turned black, and I wear only tight black and red clothing This isn’t because of my life choices, 100% D&d cult’s fault......definitely
Remember the good ol' times when the general opinion was letting women read novels would disconnect them from reality? No you don't, that was the mineteenth century, but same shit different story really
If Ben Shapiro was in this movie, I'm surprised his dialogue wasn't "Let's say, hypothetically, that you're playing a game. Let's say for the sake of argument that you've been playing the same game now for years. Wouldn't liberals just censor it? Remember this is all based on feelings. Liberals only use feelings, but we have facts and logic"
@@souljastation5463 My entire comment is a silly joke and not to be taken as any genuine political position. I really don't want this comment to spark a political debate, because RUclips comments are already the absolute worst. Censorship is always bad, it's hard to find anyone rational who disagrees with that, lets not bicker over which side of politics support it more than the other.
I read that in his weaselly smug voice. Then pictured him going on to bitch about the evils of something else equally benign to rally for it's censorship without openly calling for censorship.
@souljastation5463 It always amazes me how conservative types always complain about "Liberal Woke-ism" and "Cancel Culture" when it was Republican, Reagan loving Baby-Boomers who invented it in the first place. They tried to ban EVERYTHING. D&D, video games, horror movies, the entire genre of rap, the entire genre of heavy-metal, you name it.
@@Grindhouseification Not sure where you're getting that last angle from. From the admittedly limited number of Lifetime movies I've seen, they don't seem to care much for either gender.
Fearmongering back in the day: "It is violent!" My DnD group last session: Our characters spent the most of it in a spa, bonding, while my character seduced the owner's brother.
@@3baxcb We deserved it. Lol. The session before, we got wrecked in a fight, barely managing to pull through. I had to make 2 death saving throws, and even our tank had, like, 20 hp left. Good times.
@@addisonwelsh Depends on your interests I guess. My family and a lot of friends are super into DnD so it gets referenced a lot. I'd just never seen it before so I didn't know where the line was from.
Dungeons and Dragons is improv acting and in the best case a team-building exercise. There are far more desperate people who did NOT kill themselves because of the outlet and comraderie of a D&D group than disturbed people who killed themselves or others because "You have disrespected Valprex the Depraved for the last time."
I can definetely attest that it's done more good than harm. Especially when you feel isolated in your family because no one takes you seriously. The friendships you forge and the self-discovery you're allowed to explore is worth all the trouble of learning the system. lol
I hate to over-simplify things but D&D was pretty much the only way me and my buddies could've hung out together in the 80's without getting into criminal shenanigans like busting windows and smashing mailboxes for kicks LOL --- I think our parents secretly loved the game for keeping us inside the house instead of running around the neighborhood at night causing trouble
There was a study that came out this year that found NO LINK between fiction and people's morality, meaning that playing DnD as a murder hobo doesn't mean you're going to do these acts in real life. This needs to be said more often
@@Redyqar I do! It's called "Fiction and morality: Investigating the associations between reading exposure, empathy, morality, and more permissibility" by Jessica E. Black and Jennifer L. Barnes. Fair warning, though, it's 52 pages long and you need an understanding of how to read scientific writing for it to make a lot of sense. Also, I recommend emailing Jessica Black (Jessica.black@ou.edu) to see if she'll send you a copy rather than trying to get it online through the APA journal
If only people were scared enough of the imaginary link between those to stop playing murder hobos... that would almost make the moral crazy stuff worth it.
I think that was looking at the various genres compared against each other, but reading in general, especially during development (like growing up) has been found to improve empathy bc you're experiencing the world from someone else's perspective!
Here in Brazil we also had one case of murder that for some time was said to be motivated by D&D. Because the girl murdered stayed in the same student logging as guys who played it. Doesn't matter that she and they never met or played together or that she was seen going to the place where her corpse was found with a drug dealer to solve a debt. Or that the responsable for this case was being investigated himself and needed something to change the focus on him. And some of players were actually arrested even before judgment and loss a year of their lives because they judiciary system here is slow, before being released due to lack of evidence against them.
You claim that D&D is harmless, but I watched a very compelling documentary about a group of kids in the 80's that summoned a pack of demi-gorgons into their town somewhere in Indiana. Don't believe me? Well, stranger things have happened...
"all three of the killers played DnD" WTH ofcourse there is a huge possibility that they played the game but that doesnt mean that it is what caused the crime Its like saying "all three of them ate hotdogs, so it must be the reason"
As a D&D player I can assure you, I have accidentally summoned malicious entities from a literal board game. Please help me, there is a Beholder in my basement.
Its sad and frustrating when parents cant admit they are shit and may have ruined their child life by being to strict and maniac, and throw all the blame at a game.
4:06 "You become the game, you ARE the game." flashback to when I was DMing for a group of new players and I explained my role as the DM as "yeah basically, I am the game"
This makes me laugh because I’m a Christian who plays DND, went to a Christian college where half the students there played the game, AND one of my professors even plays as a rouge who he insists wasn’t inspired by John Wick (which it was!)
You should watch the D&D episode of Dexter's laboratory. It's much better than these scare films. It's my favorite episode, especially the part where Dexter gets burned by a European dragon, digs to China to escape, then gets burned by a Chinese dragon. Hilarious!
"D&D is kinda like crack for nerds" Imagine if the makers of these movies had heard of Warhammer 40K, the actual plastic crack, and about chaos and dark eldar fluff
@@wittyjoker4631 40K was actually created in '83(?) i believe so it may have been a teensy bit late for the Satanic Panic, which closed up around the mid 80's IIRC. this is all from memory though so it might be wrong
If they thought that D&D is a gateway to occultism, imagine their reaction if they discovered Mage the Ascension, a game where you can be a literal occultist doing occult things.
That first movie reminds about how there were some people blaming Gordon Ramsay for the suicide of a Masterchef contestant because he had a lot of hallucinations of Gordon before dying. Guy had schizophrenia and went off his meds; none of that is Gordon's responsibility. He probably would have had hallucinations of him anyway just from seeing him on TV. It's like when you hear about mentally ill people committing murder because God or the angels or demons told them to or whatever; they probably would have heard those things regardless of their beliefs, and simply decide something or someone else said it.
Thank you very much for this video. Short story: my son (6) love to play Minecraft and build houses and pyramids there. He than excitedly described this game to his teacher. The teacher called me and explained me, how dangerous Minecraft is......what can I say. Anyway, we are still playing Minecraft ;)
So basically, these movies portray adults’ imaginations in such a way that they lose any and all sense of reality and spiral down into insanity... It’s exactly like society telling us to grow up and be boring like the rest, isn’t it?
That reminds me of Tolkien's On Fairy Stories essay where he defends enjoying fantasy and "escapism" by pointing out that the "real" world was pretty intolerable and escapism was comperable to a man wanting to get out of prison.
When I was young it seemed that life was so wonderful, a miracle, oh it was beautiful, magical. But then they sent me away and taught me how to be sensible, logical, oh responsible, practical
I find it funny because they're railing against people playing D&D because it supposedly makes people lose touch with reality, but the people who are doing it are themselves going on about witches in their churches and the anti-christ being around every corner.
back in around 81 when i was only like 9 my father rented out our extra bedroom to a friend of his from work, the friend was also a college student and a huge gamer and got my dad and a few other friends into playing D&D which i also got to join in and enjoy. my father had been a big Tolkien fan and he loved the story telling aspect of being the dungeon master. unfortunately my father always had a lot of health problems and one of the times he was in the hospital he had some sort of experience he never went into detail about and became born again. he continued playing D&D and had no problems with it, but a few years later when i was 16 and getting really into thrash metal he was watching the televangelists and completely buying into the 80s satanic panic of metal music. and he was always so worried that i was going to fall under some sort of mind control satanic metal spell, and what makes me sad is that such an intelligent man really believed and worried about that in the last years of his life and i still feel kind of guilty that i contributed to his woes in his sick withering away condition. but i always remember him for how much fun we had role playing when i was a kid, and all those evening watching Star Trek TNG as the episodes premiered, and taking me to see the animated Bakshi Tolkien films in the theatres while the Star Wars mania was happening.
Luckily my parents were cool about D&D in the 80's and they also never fretted when I got into heavy metal music --- but there were certainly plenty of parents like your father and I wonder how people can become so fearful and paranoid of things without taking the time to understand them
When it comes to real life cases 'blaming' D&D, don't forget that they were usually introduced by the defense teams as mitigation and/or motive. The common (misguided) attitude towards RPG's encouraged this as a way to influence the jury.
The media tried to make dungeons and dragons seem like it was a drug when the reality is the exact opposite. you don't need to know anything to do heroin but if you don't know anything about D&D you can't play it.
These moral panics over getting into games remind me of that one South Park episode where Butter's parents become convinced he has a multiple personality disorder because he pretends to be different personas like any normal kid.
I believe that those cases of crimes related to D&D mostly boil down to people shunned by society, that due to this develop mental ilnesses (or vice-versa) trying to have some semblance of happiness through escapism provided by media in general, bottling up all their problems and eventually lashing out at the World that rejected them.
Very true. No matter how bad the source material and production a good actor will give it everything they have and make themselves the best part of it.
It's all the tired old shit. "Rock music is the devils music" "Horror movies are turning kids to Satan" "Role Playing Games are evil" "Drugs will make you kill your family and eat them" Basically if it doesn't fit into the safe little mundane existence bubble of the conservative Christian, then it is abhorrently evil and every single person touched by the filth will become rapists and murderers who will happily devour the flesh of their victims and drink the blood in service of their master. Satan!!!!!
Truth."Martin I want you to find those vandals and hang them up by their buster browns!" explains it all.The mans entire career in hollywood was to take away kids fun and let them get eaten by sharks😂
Players reaching levels instead of the characters actually makes for an imteresting homebrew rule... you only play as paladins, warlocks or clerics and the player acts as their patrons, and every time you finish a short campaign you get a new level and unlock new powers to give your next character. Or something.
Don't even need to homebrew it as a class-exclusive: if you "create" a religion with a character-- even if it's a rogue who cons a tribe of goblins into believing he's a god's representative, you get a special "god character sheet", and can burn up that metacharacter's "god points" to nudge things and give abilities. Other players can also help power your metacharacter if they get in on the religion... and if you get enough pull you can have your metacharacter latch on to a new character of yours by paying specific amounts of points to make your non-religion-origin characters aware of the metacharacter's existence, either via a dream or some sort of proselityzing or discovery of a tome or totem...
"He played DND up to 16 hours a day" There is not a DM on this planet who would be willing to run a game for 16 hours a day. There's no DM who would be willing to prep a game that took 16 hours a day to prepare. Hell, as much as I love the game, you'd be hard pressed to find enough players willing to play a 16 hour session at once, unless it was a special occasion (like if you usually play online, but you all get the money and time to fly out and meet up in person, and you make the whole day about playing one uber long, in person session or something).
"it's a far-out game. Maiming, killing..." Yeah, why not read this nice wholesome bible instead! There's only 2 instances of genocide! And definitely no rape, not in my good christian book! Totally not any other terrible things either! It's just a grand old time through & through!
@@xaayer Yeah, those are just the ones God commanded the Israelites to do not the ones God actually committed Himself or that were threatened in the End Times.
@@DamnedSilly I assume you mean the Canaanites? Yeah. God clearly had the Canaanites killed despite the fact he later commanded the Israelites not to marry them or make business deals with them. How can you marry someone you have destroyed?
@@kaiserproductions1278 Another lovely contradiction in a book full of them. So, which part is wrong? Is it _not_ genocide because it was only ordered in _some_ cities?
I once downloaded the Necronomicon as a PDF. When I opened it, my laptop crashed just after flashing I'LL SWALLOW YOUR SOUL. When I took it to Best Buy, the Geek Squad guy went insane just before meeting a grisly death. . . :)
Due to the likes of discord, Roll20, and Tabletop Simulator, there is definitely ways to play tabletop stuff online of all forms. The question is just how hackintosh modding you need to do very specific things.
I used to play D&D in the way back when. My mom accused me of being a satanist. She took all of my books and "figurines" and burned them. My only thought now is that the figurines were actually made out of lead...so not the best best thing g to incinerate.
Having a father that has once or twice voiced his disproved of the game I think I have insight into why the more fanatic people legitimately believe the game is evil, or at least their "reasoning" for it. They probably believe that since stuff like your prayers and thoughts have an effect on you spiritually, it must mean that thinking you're some sort of character that in their religion would be heretical, like a wizard, warlock, or the cleric/priest of another diety (surprisingly that last one especially) would make you more susceptible to such heretical things irl. I brought up that one of my character's was a cleric but seeing as how the god he worships is not capital G 'God' or Jesus, it must be a bad influence on me (I didn't want to bring up the polytheistic in system found in most settings for obvious reasons and I'm agnostic anyway). But it's obvious that they don't understand the fundamental disconnect between fiction and reality that let's the mind go into these spaces without directly stomping on one's actual worldview and worship. I'm an agnostic playing a cleric and being devout in character, yet I'm not that irl. And all actual religious players tend to simply separate their religious figures from the fictional ones.
@@mariofan1ish Ambushed and if the kid is a legit psychopath, he's not gonna care how badly he hurts you before you get back up. He'll also exploit his parent's natural predisposition not to seriously harm him.
Watching this video made me buy "Dark Dungeons". I don't think I've laughed so hard at a movie since the South Park movie came out in 1999. I particularly like the scene with the audience freaking out and chanting "RPG! RPG!" like they're about to watch an MMA fight. Also, all of the players are young and attractive - not a hint of acne or autism there.
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Looking forward to buying one
I literally got monsters and mazes as a surprise gift for my buddy's birthday because he didn't know it existed and now he saw this and wants to get a copy -__________-
I fixed your final statement: "anyone who tries to scapegoat anything instead of addressing the real issues is a fucking idiot"
Lady: These games are so violence oriented
Every DnD game I have ever played: please stop trying to seduce the gelatinous cube I’m not going to let it work
I relate to this both as a player and as a DM
And when that's stated outright, the bard goes "what do I have to multiclass to so I can get it as a pet then?". People really want a gelatinous cube as a pet NPC...
i wanna seduce a cube
"Oh, alright. The cube seduces me.~"
@@anib8863 the cube is aro ace
Talking a guy out of jumping off a building by telling him he doesn't have enough spell slots to cast fly is an absolute power move.
Good thing he wasn't a monk instead.
200 IQ move
Best comment ever!
@@scotthewitt258 my former best friend beileves adolf hitler invinted d and d he thinks d and d is about devil worshipers and killing jews no joke either
@@scotthewitt258 also my former best friend hates cynical reviews with a firey passion due to him bashing on his favorite films
old media: DnD is full of blood and fighting
dnd: dm spends hours arguing why she cant let us use an essence of enchanting on a chicken
dm: will you stop trying to have sex with everything!
me: show the rule where it says i can't!
dm: i keep telling you that's no........
me: YOU'RE JUST SCARED OF NEW METHODS!
dm: *sighs* ok fine your fighter pulls down his pants...........
Just take a look at any story involving a bard
My DM: please don’t a
Me: I must!
DM: You’re trying to help this man!
Me: There is no other way!
DM: Roll constitution!
Me: 12!
DM: The farmer simply stares in horror as the dragon born bard jester from the party he hired to kill werewolves, inhales about one ounce of table salt into his nostril.
My dm had trouble finding the powers and moves used in Naruto because one of my dnd members turned into an anime girl from a magical orb and wanted to blast open a door by using anime powers
…yknow maybe they weren’t far off when saying that dnd was satanic-
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Why not?
You wanna see homicidal impulses because of playing a game? Forget D&D...break out the Monopoly board.
Or if you wanna go with video games instead, play any Mario Party game. Or if you want something different and more obscure, break out the PS2 or Wii and play Dokapon Kingdom.
Nah, pictionary is the most dangerous game in existence.
Id say uno cards
It's true. My friends & I would actually get into heated arguments over who gets to use the little dog token because nobody wants to be the shoe.
@Rocko
Clue? But that game has nothing to do with homicide!
I grew up in this era, suffered from anxiety and depression as well. Some church folks found out and confronted my mother about why she let me play this evil game. Her response, "Shes interacting with people and doing math!" one of her cool moments.
That’s awesome. My mom still thinks I can just “snap out” of my depression. 😔
Cool Mom
May I borrow your mother? 😉 Mine demonized (and also hugely exacerbated) my depression, and would have surely burned me at the stake had I been a tabletop gamer. I'm glad your mom had your back, friend.
@@semperfi818 I’ll adopt you. I’m not a tabletop gamer but my boyfriend is and wants to teach our kids various games when they get older. He’s already got our three old obsessed with Breath of the Wild.
@@tegantalks9612 Thank you; I'm sure I'd love playing with your entire family.
Karens: "Don't let your kids play video games! That'll make them violent!"
Also Karens: "Don't let your kids use their imagination! That'll make them violent!"
Also also Karens: "Don't let your kids study! that will make them violent!"
Ok, I wanted to make a funny comment but then I just-
@@justafurrywithinternet317 don't make funny comments that will make you violent
@@CygnusTheSilly Well, I had anger issues before I started trying to be funny!
@@justafurrywithinternet317 don't have anger issues that will make you vio- oh wait that one actually makes sense
Fighter: “dude you can’t take on the main villain alone!”
Wizard: “I HAVE SPELLS”
If the wizard is level 20 they probably can
@gamewizard I "I cast FORCECAGE" *DM reads force cage in a panic, not realizing that the 13th level wizard could cast that, sweating, realizes this cancels out his entire encounter*
@Rechordian not at level 20
@Rechordian Not when you can have the Wizard cast Simulacrum on the Arcane Trickster, have them both hide, make them waste the Tarrasque's legendary resistance, cast polymorph on it until it fails, and then Power Word Kill it.
Slow, then Delayed Blast Fireball.
If someone is actually incapable of distinguishing D&D from reality, then a role-playing game is the least of their worries.
Oh no it's quite realistic. I can assure you that when I DM all my players become suicidal within a few sessions.😄
@@SeventhSeraphOfficerRevolver that's a joke right?
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@@sableaskew8074 Oh they definitely become suicidal, but not because they're delusional, his jokes are just that bad
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Nothing says "undistinguishable from reality" quite like writing stats in a sheet of paper and rolling dice before every action
Ah yes, a gnome bard who plays a washboard and can cast spells like thunderwave and illusion.
So incredibly easy to confuse with reality
Yep
Wait a minute don't you also roll dice every time you try to do something to determine whether you'll intentionally fuck up or try your hardest to succeed? Or is that just me being a masochist.
thats why i prefer the storyteller system where we just use paper rock scissors to decide life and death matters... you know, like in the US Senate
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Replace "D&D" with "video games". Same shit, different game.
I honestly struggle understanding how any adult human being could actually come to the conclusion that a hobby like that could lead to actual harm on people.
Does dressing up as Santa Claus on Christmas cause mass hallucinations in kids? Like... What?!
Remember, back in the XIX century they said the same about novels.
@@_extrathicc and ironically enough, the Romans said it about Christianity once upon a time. Humans will always be our reactionary stupid selves, just trade out the new thing to panic about.
D&D is a game. It was always about games. And the basic reasoning to most people, those unaware or ignorant of the specifics of the games in question, is actually sound. We created games in the first place to teach children behaviors we want them to voluntarily execute on.
What we called 'Chutes and Ladders' in the United States (it was first played in India centuries ago) is probably most famous example, because it's debatably the single most blatant in forcing you to learn the lesson to progress, but most other games establish similar lessons. Chess teaches you to expend resources in order to accomplish goals. 'Mafia' teaches you how to determine who is a threat to the group and who is not, to use a more recent example.
That's the scrap of truth at the core of all the nonsense. Games do in fact teach behaviors to people. Most people just fail to understand what those behaviors are, as they look at the skin on top of the game and make judgements based on that, rather than what the actual game makes you actually do to achieve your goals.
D&D teaches you to imagine a world, and explore other people's imaginations. It's a profoundly effective tool for teaching good storytelling and social skills, such as understanding how other people think and sympathizing with them. It also teaches you the important lesson that, although we do have a variety of skills and abilities to bias the dice, it is luck that determines what ultimately happens, not the individual's actual abilities.
@@_extrathicc everybody knows scrolls don't cause mass hallucinations like novels. Don't listen to those stone and chisel guys though
Exactly. But they want a scapegoat.
I love how Gwyneth Paltrow is in this, considering the business she’s currently running today
Clearly D&D is responsible.
Almost as wild as learning that Brie Larson played one of Ramona Flowers' seven evil exes in the Scott Pilgrim film.
...I've probably ruined that film for a couple of people now. Not to worry, I felt the same way.
@@DragonRagovi Holy shit, I didn’t even recognize her then.
@@DragonRagovi .............I'm sorry, what???
Both Gwyneth Paltrow and DnD movies have been covered by both Cynical and JonTron!
"Child's suicides linked to fantasy game''
And not to the mental issues that they might have had?
Certainly reminds me of that one case where some people placed a heavy burden & blame on Doki Doki Literature Club for, iirc, the child's death
I find Doki Doki literature Club I there in peak Indie Games, up there with games like Bendy and the Ink Machine and Undertale, because of the story and what happens.
But blaming a death on a game made to be disturbing and that is like blaming BATIM for ink poisoning and Undertale for Murder or Jumpers (you know which I mean)
@@killminewin4733 Or blaming LEGO games for dismemberment.
Or GTA for people committing the greatest & biggest heist of the century
@@killminewin4733 Oh man, remember the Hatton Garden safe deposit burglary?
I can't remember the name of the movie, but there was a movie I saw that spoke of the real story - how the police simply blamed a murder of a young girl on her brother and his friends because they were D&D players, instead of actually investigating further because it was convenient. They badgered the "suspected" brother of the girl into admiting he committed the crime, which lead to a court case when the parents found out the Police forced they're son into admiting he was the murderer by badgering and lying to him. Meanwhile, the media was spinning the story about how D&D lead to this. Eventually, the real murderer was caught (a typical psychopath that was on parole) and the charges were dropped against the children, but the media continued they're D&D fear mongering.
That's rotten beyond belief!
They just have a hate boner for D&D
I really feel for the brother here
Sounds like a pretty typical case of a bad cop going for the "obvious" answer instead of following evidence (Its almost always the family, so it's always the family). D&D was just the convenient scapegoat. Poor kid.
@@isauldron4337 That, and possible Police corruption and ignorance. Besides the Investigators in the case not understanding that the toys they found were just toys (like thinking a plastic dagger inspired the kids to use a real knife), there has been cases where the Police would make wrongful arrests and badger people - usually teenagers because they're easier to manipulate - into falsely confessing, and back then it happened quite a lot actually and this story was one such case, because it usually meant less paperwork, less actual work, and extra bucks in they're paychecks for every successful arrest they made.
That said, I don't want to give the wrong impression that I believe or say that this happens all the time when it comes to law enforcement - because it doesn't. Just that once in a blue moon it does and has happened before because human beings are human beings, and this was one such case where it came out that it happened.
@@Etherman7 Yep. If I remember correctly, the movie said one or two of the officers thought it was rubbish and continued the investigation whilst the other 3 officers went on with they're witch hunt (pardon the pun.) The parents of the kid also got a lawyer that went over the confession tape and was able to point out every time the Police badgered the "suspect" along with denying him food and water for 24 hours and not allowing him a phone call (infact, the officers told the kid his parents disowned him.) Eventually, the other two officers actually doing they're job interviewed witnesses that saw a stranger roaming around the neighborhood during the week of the murder, and after following that trail of bread crumbs eventually caught the real murderer - an ex-convict that was out on parole. (or he Escaped, I can't remember which.)
80s: "These kids played D&D 16 hours a day."
Today: "So guys, Dan can play every 3rd Wednesday for 1.5 hours, but Riley can only play for 15 mins at a time every other Saturday, but not during any month with a commercialized holiday."
As you'll definitely remember from our last session (checks watch) 4 months ago we were hunting down a hag who kidnapped children.
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This is hilariously true and I appreciate it immensely.
“Dan just canceled on us. I think we’ll have to go into battle without our cleric.”
@@akatoshslayer7599 LISTEN!
WE NEED TO PANIC!!!
WE NEED TO PANIC!!
The Dungeons and Dragons are cooomingggg!!
Fun fact: I technically owe my life to DnD. My parents met because they were both into RPGs
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Cute
Obviously a very unholy union
It’s like a fairytale
Robbie: Obviously has paranoid schizophrenia resulting from the trauma of losing his brother and not receiving closure.
This movie: No, Dungeons and - I mean - MAZES AND MONSTERS made him crazy.
when I think about him becoming obsessed was mainly just his way of coping with it
i haven't heard of loads of people getting schizophrenia from trauma, usually you're born with it
@@kanagisama3875 Well actually a psychotic episode can be a PTSD symptom, perhaps they're talking about that.
@@inferiorinferno8859 i guess so
The movie doesn't claim that the game caused Robbie's mental illness. Maybe try actually watching it.
I actually watched that Tom Hanks movie a few nights ago. I happened to find it at Goodwill.
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Did anyone else read this is his voice?
Is that the garbage you found this week?
"playing 16 hours a day"
Man that's some dedication. I can barely finish a 4 hour session without dying from a ruptured bladder.
LISTEN!
WE NEED TO PANIC!!!
WE NEED TO PANIC!!
The Dungeons and Dragons are cooomingggg!!
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Eh. Just ask for a toilet break.
Tell me about it, my adhd makes me stop focusing at the third hour.
I can't imagine how nightmarish that would be to DM. Only way I can possibly see playing 16 hours a day is if you have like 30 different campaigns that you jet between every week
Can't wait for the sequel: SYNDICATE, the true story of how playing Monopoly turned our youth into ruthless capitalists.
*It's not whether you win, it's who you killed to get there*
Syndicate is already a game franchise about warring mega corporations that have taken over the world.
Saints row?
This was such a spicier comment then I was expecting to see. But it’s low key accurate
I mean Monopoly in its original form was supposed to teach kids the dangers of capitalism but I think Hasbro missed the memo there
A game sponsored by glorious communism
''it's satanic!" dude, you KILL Satan in some adventures
Most adventures. It's like saying Doom is trying to see you become a devil worshiper. I'm pretty sure Doom is the opposite of that just after 15 seconds of watching the games.
@@alnu8355 doom is a devil worshipping game
meanwhile: in doom you stomp on a demons head so hard that it pops like a balloon and rip one in half with your bare hands.
@@alnu8355 I've never played Doom but it takes no brainpower to realize you BEAT UP AND KILL DEMONS from the trailers
@@ecru_5819 no kidding!
@@alnu8355 if anything, you're worshipping the shotgun
"Gather up all your occult paraphernalia. The rock music, occult books, including those by C S Lewis and J R R Tolkein!" -- you know, those very publicly Christian writers. These filmmakers were genius, I love it!
The sad thing is, while the movie itself was a parody of a feat-monger comic strip, the actual comic strip DOES specifically call out those two authors.
So, yeah...
That's what happens when you do zero research into the thing you're demonizing
I heard some guy said Taco Bell was demonic. I can’t even.
(Edit: Did I mention that it’s the same guy who dedicated an entire sermon to condemning Pokémon and Magic the Gathering (but more so Pokémon) being demonic while also saying that they’re the same entity because they shared a distributor?)
@@thegrandxbunny2073 Well, most digestive systems would probably agree with that.
@@thegrandxbunny2073 of course it is, have you seen the turds that food produce?!
This guy calling C.S. Lewis's books "occult books" clearly has no idea that the man literally wrote books about his Christian faith...and Tolkien was a self-proclaimed Christian as well...
goes to show how mindless they are
Aslan is literally Jesus
@@AeneasGemini Jesus' fursona
Well Tolkien was a Catholic. This guy thought Catholics weren’t really Christians.
Yeah. Roman Catholics like me are pretty chill about D&D and books. In fact, we kinda worship Aslan from Narnia as Jesus Christ himself, because he literally is a Jesus allegory
Hands down my favorite tabletop game. It's...
_DUNGEONS_
_& DINERS_
_& DRAGONS_
_& DRIVE-INS_
_& DIVES_
*Escape from Flavortown*
Is Guy Fieri the Dungeon Master?
@@rooksclown316 he's either the patron god or the BBEG
*scribbles furiously in DM notes*
No... for he is the flavor master!!!! ..... Too much?
*stealing this from Reddit, I know* Guy Fairie
Them, back then: “D&D IS EVIL AND BAD IT’LL CAUSE VIOLENCE!!!”
My D&D character: A tired bisexual goblin blacksmith dad who is just there to drink coffee and keep his stupid party children in line.
Fr, we had an entire mini story line where my character tries to find the best coffee.
Is your dnd character just Pm Seymour
@@unethicaldrinkingwater XD
This is one of the greatest things I’ve read.
Did he?
My character was a lesbian halfling who rode a large dog named David Bowie.
I love how in Dark Dungeons they list CS Lewis as one of the occult authors LITERALLY EVERY ASPECT OF THE NARNIA SERIES WERE ALLEGORIES FOR BIBLICAL EVENTS
That just shows that these fear mongering idiots have no idea what their talking about
They were more than just Allegories, in one of the later books Aslan hints that he is in fact Jesus
@@ashuraconla2550 The movie is satire...
@@caiawlodarski5339 but in the comic it was played straight.......
@@caiawlodarski5339 The movie was, but the comic WAS NOT. The movie was adapted from a Chick Tract. Chick Tracts were a series of comics by Jack T. Chick, who genuinely meant for them to be taken seriously.
Also, Chick Publishing (the company that still releases Chick Tracts to this day) is considered an active hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center, because of how anti-Muslim and anti-Catholic some of the tracts are.
Kid: is a micromanaged by their parents their entire lives and taught that their self worth is is based entirely on their grades so they block out everything that isn’t work since it’s the only way that they can receive validation from their parents and as a result they become hyper-critical of any flaw that they find in themselves which makes it harder to socialize with others which leads to loneliness which further damages their mental state and reinforces their worldview that the reason no one likes them is because they are failing in someway and when they finally fail due to literally any reason they breakdown believing that since they failed there is no other reason to go on living since no one can ever love them if they are a failure
Parents: oh yeah it’s the dnd game that teaches acting skills which have been proven to be good for you oh and creative writing skills, forcing the players into situations where they have to be clever and think on their feet oh also all the math that they have to do
Well... Fuk
What have I done to you to be so blatantly called out in this manner?
@D Zuke um, did you read my post? I’m saying that if you teach a kid to associate grades with parental love, you are not going to get a healthy person. I’m not saying to cuddle your kids, I’m saying not to emotionally abuse your FRIKIN kids.
@City Watch Guard GLAD you got better!! Mental health is no joke and I’m happy you were able to improve!!
@D Zuke you just completely missed the point...
My mother once directed a production of “She Kills Monsters,” a D&D gamer girl play that’s also a lesbian coming-out story, and it was performed in a small theater below a church, and the bishop went to see it and wrote my mother a letter about how much he loved it.
That's so sweet.
One of my friends was in a production of that! She was one of the succubi.
@falconstudios146 Cool!
May I see it?
That's so cool! I love hearing about obviously religious people who actually love thy neighbor and can see stuff like DnD or Pokemon for what they are - fun ways to spend time with with your imagination and friends.
When they called C.S. Lewis an occult author I died of laughter
I know, he literally has a memorial to his contributions to Christian poetry in Westminster Abbey and was a notable member of the Anglican Church.
It's absurd. Lewis was a Christian for much of his life, and was able to incorporate religious themes without his novels turning into a sermon. Similarly, Tolkien also worked religious symbolism into his novels. So no, not occult authors at all.
@@thomasoates3003 Yeah, though I would say that Tolkien wasn't trying to create allegory, rather he used Christianity, along with many other ancient and contemporary religions, as inspiration for his world, especially in the Silmarillion. I can see how these super-fundamentalist evangelicals could see that as "demonic", though it's still stupid.
@@goldh2o543 Indeed.
@@goldh2o543 Tolkien wanted to introduce Christian values in a pagan world, mainly the Christian core ideas on free will. In a way Tolkien shows how non-believers, who have no idea of god, can be proper Christians, which is a point of view actual Christianity desperately needs. Tolkien's work is what makes me respect some Christian values as an atheist, which is quite the accomplishment.
"It's all imagination."
"Is it?"
Just thinking how someone wrote this and thought it is a good logic makes me sad.
Yes but, IS IT?
@@darthsombra2102
Always has been.
*BANG*
@@darthsombra2102 Yes, it is. In factual truth.
But! As a deeper, more profound form of truth...
...is it?
It's 'rationalising' logic. Religious people and conservatives use it all the time because it presents a theoretical argument that is, effectively, it's own evidence. RPGs are evil; well they could be more than imagination! (Why: because RPGs are evil). It's completely circular.
Technically, it isn’t. There are physical attributes of D&D, the main one being dice.
Man, those D&D pen and paper parties must've been such a rage in the 80s. They were killing dragons while high on drugs.
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When my mom found my DnD books she cried. A bunch of church denominations even banded together and made a summer camp where they sent their kids to brainwash them into how DnD was satanic. Fortunately I didn't get sent to that. But I did get sent to a camp about music and hard rock. These were crazy times.
@Alexander Dunnill the times change but the stupidity doesn't. We had satanic panic for dnd and music. Today people panic over Jewish space lasers, stolen elections, and bamboo in ballots.
I wonder what happened to all the kids who were sent to that camp and if they still think that way
I'm sure some do and some dont
@@Deus_Imperator Jewish space WHAT?
Lol wth XD
@@Deus_Imperator Bad luck, I bet the kids in that camp played some good D&D at night.
I feel like this was the 90's version of birth signs.
*Crashes car*
"OMG EMILY WTF"
"Sorry Trisha, I'm such a chaotic neutral!"
That's it, you just described most CN characters in one comment.
I swear CN characters are worse than CE players
At the very least the CEs are *honest*
@@brunop.8745 CN characters are either hit or a spectacular miss, no inbetween
That's why CG is the best alignment.
The argument of "players lose touch with reality!" kills me bc I suffer from pychosis with frequent hallucinations and delusions. I've literally never hallucinated anythin close to DnD or thought I was my characters?? In fact, I've used roleplay characters to help me manage specific fears caused by my delusions. Of course DnD could hypothetically be dangerous to some psychotic people, but literally every psychotic person I know includin myself actively benefit from playin DnD
If a person is gonna have a psychotic breakdown and kill someone, it's not gonna be because of a game. Like, how do these people justify the rest of the world population that never had anything to do with what they deem satanic, but still have psychotic breakdowns and kill someone?
@@THEPELADOMASTER I think it’s something on the lines of “new thing scary, my kid is having fun with a thing I don’t understand so I will assume it’s hurting them because if I demonise an external force I won’t have to address the fact that my kid is growing up and is in fact their own person and not just an extension of myself.”
When my partner had her second major episode (the one that landed her in a mental health facility), her hallucinations were heavily centered around the christian God talking to her and telling her that everyone's sinned. If D&D is so bad, then why is Christianity fine? They're both pretty batshit.
In fact, there's even been a few studies showing that christianity may have lead to modern symptoms of schizophrenia, and that largely christian nations have patients with more negative and aggressive hallucinations, whereas many other countries (asia, the pacific islands, etc) have more supportive or neutral hallucinations.
@@cakecinema9385And there it is. They see kids as possessions.
Based
“Dungeons and dragons and drugs”
“Roll to Juul”
*Scanlan Shorthalt has entered the chat*
(exhales massive vape) im...like....a dragon duuuuuuuuude
"Who ARE you?"
Remember kids:
“It’s not cuul
To juul
In schuul”
Nah, more like roll a con save when your eat some shrooms.
25:36, I think the same guy was involved in a Star Wars scare video where they claimed Yoda having three fingers was somehow symbolic of the Devil.
"SKELETOOOOOOR THE MASTER OF THE UNIVERSE!"
What? Like, I can see them linking the jedi to a cult bc it's a weird religion that just picks up orphan luke and gives him magic, but yoda having three fingers is what they went after? How?
Yeah, seems legit.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
And that Darth Vader looks like Odin . . . apparently. Even the images they specifically chose for the comparison show how dumb it was.
Parents : "D&D is violence"
Dm's who give extra xp for non-lethal encounters : "-_-"
What about that guy who has +7 charisma and seduced the BBEG?
me: we're supposed to be violent.............but i'm lawful good.
meanwhile, me, giving my players XP because they successfully invited the bandits to a party instead of fighting them...
The lawful good paladin who just wants to save all the NPCs, social good druid who I have never seen actually attack any monsters and true neautral cleric who comforts characters with tragic backstories from my campaign...do they sound dangerous???
DM: You encounter a succubus!
My character: (proceeds to have a rap battle with it while shooting it in the face with arrows)
I love Bender’s game for mocking the hysteria
To quote RationalWiki of all websites
“The difference between Gygax and those who believed he promoted Satanism was that when Gygax pretended to be a righteous crusader against evil, he knew it was all in his head.”
Only time I've ever read RationalWiki was when thex criticize the absolute most insane shit ever
Seriously Conservipedia's Math is some of the worst I've ever seen, glad they dug through it, I couldn't possibly finish my degree from brain damage if I trued reading the source
You would think at some point that people would realize that the presence of popular media in someone's home has very little to do with a crime they committed and more to do with the rest of their life that wasn't involved in that crime.
You'd think. But people are stupid.
From paper to video games you will always find people complaining that the newest invention is "ruining the youth"
(Seriously you can find quotes condemming the use of paper in schools as then kids won't learn to use the small chalk boards and "you won't always have paper to write on", similarly for lined paper)
@@TheLuckySpades I once found old newspaper segment about how two young boys who committed a murder were addicted to dime store novels, and another that explained reading as something that should be done carefully, and by the right people, almost as if reading was drugs.
@@thrawnnoconnection6931 Ancient Greek philosophers used to condemn *writing* . They said it atrophied the brain and harmed memory capacity.
Moral of the story: new media will always be portrayed as evil and used as a scapegoat for bad things.
no! it's the video gam- i mean the role playing that makes bad things happen
Ahh... My mom once thought DnD was that bad. She brought up an example of someone killing himself because he had "healing spells", JUST like that opening commercial, and warned me to never get into it because I could end up like that. Eventually after I got into it in college, I got to play DnD and explained the big scare and she is now very supportive of my DnD playing.
If that ever happened, it never was because of the game, but that person's inability to separate fantasy from reality, which stems from mental health problems
I love happy endings
Tom Hanks is a great actor, but there's a reason he doesn't cry very often in his most famous roles.
He probably watched too many episodes of I Love Lucy growing up.
Captain Phillips?
@@wurzel9671 Onions and trick photography.
Even though one of his most famous scenes is him crying on a raft
@@hcaz5818 famously silly.
"I have spells" is still one of the best things ever
Always felt like it was a misunderstanding of spell slots. Because "You can’t make it" followed by "I have spell slots" would be something said at a DND table.
Dungeons and dragons as portrayed in the media: evil satanic worshippers who want to kill themselves and others
Dungeons and dragons players irl: I found this goblin named boblin and he’s my best friend
No but really. I wasn't in this campaign, but i got to hear about it.
The party basically adopted this small sized humanoid creature (it's been a while, okay?) that they took on all their adventures. One of the characters got blinded and so the npc sat on their shoulder and helped them aim for ranged spells.
Lawyer: "The real inducement in this case were the three D's your honor"
Me, a Gravity Falls fan: Dungeons, Dungeons and More Dungeons?
It is time to fight centaurotaur!
@@petrfedor1851 I'm so confused and so proud right now.
@@petrfedor1851 You'll never defeat my ORCNADO!!
It is way is sounds like!
*what
I love that that kid is complaining his mom doesn't respect his space while he casually wears a WW1 German helmet.
"You are neglecting meine E N T S P A N N U N G , Mutter!"
@Kyle Frank You're neglecting my relaxation ? I think it's more like: you're neglecting meine P R I V A T S P H Ä R E , Mutter!
@@gecko3184 I'm sorry; my German is eh, how do you say...
shit
@@kylefrank638 Dude, that was a perfect opportunity to say Scheisse and you blew!
@@gustavferreira627 that's the ScHeRz, mein Herr.
"your occult books... including those by CS Lewis and JRR Tolkien" has to be the funniest line in all three movies.
So... people who get initiated into this D&D cult become hot Goths?
Sweet, where do I sign up?
Yeah, I have some pens here if you can just tell me where to sign up
Seriously though, imagine a world where the nerds were the "cool kids".
"Hey kid, wanna slay some Goblins?"
I think you have to make a pact with the great Old One, Talesin Jaffe himself for that one.
Holy shit it worked!
My tits grew three sizes, my hair turned black, and I wear only tight black and red clothing
This isn’t because of my life choices, 100% D&d cult’s fault......definitely
i will join too............hopefully i roll high enough to join.
Remember the good ol' times when the general opinion was letting women read novels would disconnect them from reality? No you don't, that was the mineteenth century, but same shit different story really
That's the plot of Madame Bovary.
You know that list of reasons women were sent to asylums throughout history that included "reading books" makes a whole lot more sense now...
@Rocko I think they're referring to the old days where "being disconnected from reality" meant not wanting to be a house wife.
The Yellow Wallpaper
Ah, yes... Another version of the so-called "female hysteria" where any woman having a genuine passion for something was considered ludicrous.
“New thing scary because I don’t understand it”
This is peak caveman brain.
cavemen were largely egalitarian hunter gatherers
If Ben Shapiro was in this movie, I'm surprised his dialogue wasn't "Let's say, hypothetically, that you're playing a game. Let's say for the sake of argument that you've been playing the same game now for years. Wouldn't liberals just censor it? Remember this is all based on feelings. Liberals only use feelings, but we have facts and logic"
He's a tool but liberal censorship is not any better than conservative one.
@@souljastation5463 My entire comment is a silly joke and not to be taken as any genuine political position. I really don't want this comment to spark a political debate, because RUclips comments are already the absolute worst. Censorship is always bad, it's hard to find anyone rational who disagrees with that, lets not bicker over which side of politics support it more than the other.
I read that in his weaselly smug voice. Then pictured him going on to bitch about the evils of something else equally benign to rally for it's censorship without openly calling for censorship.
@souljastation5463 It always amazes me how conservative types always complain about "Liberal Woke-ism" and "Cancel Culture" when it was Republican, Reagan loving Baby-Boomers who invented it in the first place.
They tried to ban EVERYTHING.
D&D, video games, horror movies, the entire genre of rap, the entire genre of heavy-metal, you name it.
@@souljastation5463Name one example of the former in comparison to how many examples from the latter.
I wanna see a movie about that lady who thought her husband was cheating on her, when actually he was just sneaking out to play D&D with his friends.
Either way, she'd have clear grounds for divorce
fun fact! im pretty sure that was the case for gary gygax himself lmao
There's something close to that in Knocked Up.
Give it time...I'm sure Lifetime TV will make something as bad. (And will most likely cast the male as the Villain...and keep him as such.)
@@Grindhouseification Not sure where you're getting that last angle from. From the admittedly limited number of Lifetime movies I've seen, they don't seem to care much for either gender.
Fearmongering back in the day: "It is violent!"
My DnD group last session: Our characters spent the most of it in a spa, bonding, while my character seduced the owner's brother.
That session sounds more like something out of a late-night movie than a D&D session.
@@3baxcb We deserved it. Lol. The session before, we got wrecked in a fight, barely managing to pull through. I had to make 2 death saving throws, and even our tank had, like, 20 hp left.
Good times.
"All she's good for is reading the necronomicon and summoning Cthulhu"
Wait _that's_ where that line came from???
Wait, that line is famous?
@@addisonwelsh Depends on your interests I guess. My family and a lot of friends are super into DnD so it gets referenced a lot. I'd just never seen it before so I didn't know where the line was from.
Dungeons and Dragons is improv acting and in the best case a team-building exercise. There are far more desperate people who did NOT kill themselves because of the outlet and comraderie of a D&D group than disturbed people who killed themselves or others because "You have disrespected Valprex the Depraved for the last time."
I can definetely attest that it's done more good than harm. Especially when you feel isolated in your family because no one takes you seriously. The friendships you forge and the self-discovery you're allowed to explore is worth all the trouble of learning the system. lol
I hate to over-simplify things but D&D was pretty much the only way me and my buddies could've hung out together in the 80's without getting into criminal shenanigans like busting windows and smashing mailboxes for kicks LOL --- I think our parents secretly loved the game for keeping us inside the house instead of running around the neighborhood at night causing trouble
"using it as a convenient scapegoat and an excuse to ignore real issues"
A tale as old as time...
Yep
You thought we would have evolved by now and become more rational.
There was a study that came out this year that found NO LINK between fiction and people's morality, meaning that playing DnD as a murder hobo doesn't mean you're going to do these acts in real life. This needs to be said more often
Do you by any chance remember it's name or authors? Google is dumb as soon as "morality" is mentioned.
@@Redyqar I do! It's called "Fiction and morality: Investigating the associations between reading exposure, empathy, morality, and more permissibility" by Jessica E. Black and Jennifer L. Barnes. Fair warning, though, it's 52 pages long and you need an understanding of how to read scientific writing for it to make a lot of sense. Also, I recommend emailing Jessica Black (Jessica.black@ou.edu) to see if she'll send you a copy rather than trying to get it online through the APA journal
@@moonlightwolf Thanks for your help
If only people were scared enough of the imaginary link between those to stop playing murder hobos... that would almost make the moral crazy stuff worth it.
I think that was looking at the various genres compared against each other, but reading in general, especially during development (like growing up) has been found to improve empathy bc you're experiencing the world from someone else's perspective!
Here in Brazil we also had one case of murder that for some time was said to be motivated by D&D.
Because the girl murdered stayed in the same student logging as guys who played it.
Doesn't matter that she and they never met or played together or that she was seen going to the place where her corpse was found with a drug dealer to solve a debt.
Or that the responsable for this case was being investigated himself and needed something to change the focus on him.
And some of players were actually arrested even before judgment and loss a year of their lives because they judiciary system here is slow, before being released due to lack of evidence against them.
Didn't know Essex police were out that way..
The most damage caused in relation to D&D was the damage caused to all the players who were attacked by their family and peers for playing the game.
You claim that D&D is harmless, but I watched a very compelling documentary about a group of kids in the 80's that summoned a pack of demi-gorgons into their town somewhere in Indiana. Don't believe me? Well, stranger things have happened...
Well played sir
I want to slap you over how great that was.
Ba dum tiss
Nice
Give this man a Nobel prize idk of what but he deserves it
"all three of the killers played DnD"
WTH ofcourse there is a huge possibility that they played the game but that doesnt mean that it is what caused the crime
Its like saying "all three of them ate hotdogs, so it must be the reason"
Every dead person had drunk water days before dying. Water must be the killer
Correlation is not the same as causation, but you can't make idiots understand that 🙄
@@victoriashevlin8587 indeed
Water vapor is the largest contributor to warming. Water needs to be taxed out of existence!
wink wink nod nod
As a D&D player I can assure you, I have accidentally summoned malicious entities from a literal board game. Please help me, there is a Beholder in my basement.
Out of context this is one of the most terrifying things to be said.
Feed it cats, and evangelicals 😂
Seduce it
When you said "addicted to M&M" I had forgotten about the movie's title and thought he was addicted to chocolates.
What is wrong with me.
In your defense, M&Ms can be pretty addicting.
You're not alone there.
I heard "addicted to Eminem." A few years too early, but still another big concern for moral guardians.
@@critica77y77 he really liked Spaghetti
see, i hear Eminem
Its sad and frustrating when parents cant admit they are shit and may have ruined their child life by being to strict and maniac, and throw all the blame at a game.
It's called Denial and Pride, Kat. It all boils down to that...
Yeah. It's very sad and pathetic.
and sometimes the reverse happens and they are too lacked in their discipline
4:06 "You become the game, you ARE the game."
flashback to when I was DMing for a group of new players and I explained my role as the DM as "yeah basically, I am the game"
It's all about the game, and how you play it~
I mean, you are *nott* wrong
@@julietagimenez8065 I love that reply, absolutely cherish it
I am the law.
“The 3 d’s your honor- dungeons, dragons, and Dr. Cox” 0:59
Love his southern accent 😂
It absolutely makes that line.
I was so saddened to hear that from him. I know a job is a job before a big break but....
This makes me laugh because I’m a Christian who plays DND, went to a Christian college where half the students there played the game, AND one of my professors even plays as a rouge who he insists wasn’t inspired by John Wick (which it was!)
That's lovely and I am glad you're having fun.
Ah yes. Jonathan Wicked
Have been scrolling through the comments looking for my fellow Christian D&D nerds, and you're the first one I found. Bless. 😂
I have a Mormon buddy who plays with his church group. In the church. With permission from the pastor or whatever the head Mormon guy is called
a rouge? I'm guessing you mean a rogue?
the media: D&D is satanic and violent!
me: *laughs in paladin 11 -divine champion 10 - monk 5 with vow of peace*
Deus Vult!
You should watch the D&D episode of Dexter's laboratory. It's much better than these scare films. It's my favorite episode, especially the part where Dexter gets burned by a European dragon, digs to China to escape, then gets burned by a Chinese dragon. Hilarious!
_"All she was good for is for reading the necronomicon and summoning Cthulhu"_
I lost it
I've known a few Jehovahs witnesses like that.
I didn't know cthulu was a fan of dnd. I wonder if he dms it some times
@@WorshipperOfKhone I bet he runs Tomb of Horrors on players that weren't informed it's a character meat grinder.
Jokes on him, I already knew that.@@neoqwerty
This is what is gonna be said at my funeral if i die.
"D&D is kinda like crack for nerds"
Imagine if the makers of these movies had heard of Warhammer 40K, the actual plastic crack, and about chaos and dark eldar fluff
MURDERDICK SHOOTERS.
When did 40k get created?
@@wittyjoker4631 40K was actually created in '83(?) i believe so it may have been a teensy bit late for the Satanic Panic, which closed up around the mid 80's IIRC. this is all from memory though so it might be wrong
@@wittyjoker4631a decade and a half after dnd
@@sev1120 thats my point.
If they thought that D&D is a gateway to occultism, imagine their reaction if they discovered Mage the Ascension, a game where you can be a literal occultist doing occult things.
Or basically any World of Darkness game. There’s one where you play as literally a demon.
@@thrawnnoconnection6931 No one:
That one guy at the Vampire table who insists on playing Baali: Hewwo OwO
World of Darkness games can lead to LARPing & a complete loss of sanity!
Oops, not sanity. Dignity. I meant dignity.
That first movie reminds about how there were some people blaming Gordon Ramsay for the suicide of a Masterchef contestant because he had a lot of hallucinations of Gordon before dying. Guy had schizophrenia and went off his meds; none of that is Gordon's responsibility. He probably would have had hallucinations of him anyway just from seeing him on TV. It's like when you hear about mentally ill people committing murder because God or the angels or demons told them to or whatever; they probably would have heard those things regardless of their beliefs, and simply decide something or someone else said it.
Thank you very much for this video. Short story: my son (6) love to play Minecraft and build houses and pyramids there. He than excitedly described this game to his teacher. The teacher called me and explained me, how dangerous Minecraft is......what can I say. Anyway, we are still playing Minecraft ;)
god bless your son! currently playing Minecraft as i watch this video, even xD
So basically, these movies portray adults’ imaginations in such a way that they lose any and all sense of reality and spiral down into insanity...
It’s exactly like society telling us to grow up and be boring like the rest, isn’t it?
That reminds me of Tolkien's On Fairy Stories essay where he defends enjoying fantasy and "escapism" by pointing out that the "real" world was pretty intolerable and escapism was comperable to a man wanting to get out of prison.
When I was young it seemed that life was so wonderful, a miracle, oh it was beautiful, magical. But then they sent me away and taught me how to be sensible, logical, oh responsible, practical
I find it funny because they're railing against people playing D&D because it supposedly makes people lose touch with reality, but the people who are doing it are themselves going on about witches in their churches and the anti-christ being around every corner.
back in around 81 when i was only like 9 my father rented out our extra bedroom to a friend of his from work, the friend was also a college student and a huge gamer and got my dad and a few other friends into playing D&D which i also got to join in and enjoy. my father had been a big Tolkien fan and he loved the story telling aspect of being the dungeon master. unfortunately my father always had a lot of health problems and one of the times he was in the hospital he had some sort of experience he never went into detail about and became born again. he continued playing D&D and had no problems with it, but a few years later when i was 16 and getting really into thrash metal he was watching the televangelists and completely buying into the 80s satanic panic of metal music. and he was always so worried that i was going to fall under some sort of mind control satanic metal spell, and what makes me sad is that such an intelligent man really believed and worried about that in the last years of his life and i still feel kind of guilty that i contributed to his woes in his sick withering away condition. but i always remember him for how much fun we had role playing when i was a kid, and all those evening watching Star Trek TNG as the episodes premiered, and taking me to see the animated Bakshi Tolkien films in the theatres while the Star Wars mania was happening.
Luckily my parents were cool about D&D in the 80's and they also never fretted when I got into heavy metal music --- but there were certainly plenty of parents like your father and I wonder how people can become so fearful and paranoid of things without taking the time to understand them
Religious Hogs always prey on people in near-death situations to enlist them. sorry your dad went through that.
When it comes to real life cases 'blaming' D&D, don't forget that they were usually introduced by the defense teams as mitigation and/or motive. The common (misguided) attitude towards RPG's encouraged this as a way to influence the jury.
The media tried to make dungeons and dragons seem like it was a drug when the reality is the exact opposite. you don't need to know anything to do heroin but if you don't know anything about D&D you can't play it.
It's hard to explain the concept of a game that relies on imagination to a mainstream media that doesn't have any.
"That was the best arr pee gee ing I've seen in fifteen years!" - Jake Gyllenswole
I like how the films act like you're summoning satan, but really I'm rolling to flirt with a dragon
rolls 17 to say "ayy where all the dragon bitches at?"
That's where it starts though. One day, a person is flirting with a dragon & the next day they're getting arrested for breaking into an alligator farm
Ashley Brooke HAHAHAHA
Let me guess, you're the bard?
@@rodrigoestebanmartinezardi6661 hey, that's Classist! Other characters can roll charisma checks! 🤣
These moral panics over getting into games remind me of that one South Park episode where Butter's parents become convinced he has a multiple personality disorder because he pretends to be different personas like any normal kid.
... this made me cackle
Remember: blame Canada
My mother asked me about it in 1982. I told her what it was. She called me a nerd and never said another word about it 😂
The cover photo of Tom Hanks makes me legitimately question how many bodies he has buried in his basement.
According to current conspiracy theories that comment might hold more weight than you think 😂
I suspect that's how he got the job in the first place.
All of the people that were involved in this film to protect his reputation
I believe that those cases of crimes related to D&D mostly boil down to people shunned by society, that due to this develop mental ilnesses (or vice-versa) trying to have some semblance of happiness through escapism provided by media in general, bottling up all their problems and eventually lashing out at the World that rejected them.
no. d&satanic bad.
@@liswatching3241 same as the most vile game ever made...Doom
Tommy Wissau could have made one of these movies:
"You tar-ring me a-pot, Mazes and Monsters!!!"
They started having Ed Wood being director but the quality was far too high.
To his credit, Tom Hanks was giving it his all, even in a shitty TV movie. You can see the talent even back then.
Very true.
No matter how bad the source material and production a good actor will give it everything they have and make themselves the best part of it.
And he had spells.
Tom Hanks is incapable of giving a BAD performance it would seem.
Bless that man
The whole "Is D&D dangeus" thing is just older verzion of "Do video games couze viloence", no no they dont shut up
It's all the tired old shit. "Rock music is the devils music" "Horror movies are turning kids to Satan" "Role Playing Games are evil" "Drugs will make you kill your family and eat them" Basically if it doesn't fit into the safe little mundane existence bubble of the conservative Christian, then it is abhorrently evil and every single person touched by the filth will become rapists and murderers who will happily devour the flesh of their victims and drink the blood in service of their master. Satan!!!!!
if parents really wanted to dissuade kids from playing D&D they should have told them about all the math they have to do in order to play
The actor who plays the police detective in Mazes and Monsters is the same actor who played the Mayor in Jaws. That explains a lot.
As a Cynical Review Fan, you are 1 with Taste.
So i wonder: Want some Recommandations? And yes, this comment is random; deal with it!
Truth."Martin I want you to find those vandals and hang them up by their buster browns!" explains it all.The mans entire career in hollywood was to take away kids fun and let them get eaten by sharks😂
Players reaching levels instead of the characters actually makes for an imteresting homebrew rule... you only play as paladins, warlocks or clerics and the player acts as their patrons, and every time you finish a short campaign you get a new level and unlock new powers to give your next character. Or something.
Don't even need to homebrew it as a class-exclusive: if you "create" a religion with a character-- even if it's a rogue who cons a tribe of goblins into believing he's a god's representative, you get a special "god character sheet", and can burn up that metacharacter's "god points" to nudge things and give abilities. Other players can also help power your metacharacter if they get in on the religion... and if you get enough pull you can have your metacharacter latch on to a new character of yours by paying specific amounts of points to make your non-religion-origin characters aware of the metacharacter's existence, either via a dream or some sort of proselityzing or discovery of a tome or totem...
"He played DND up to 16 hours a day"
There is not a DM on this planet who would be willing to run a game for 16 hours a day. There's no DM who would be willing to prep a game that took 16 hours a day to prepare. Hell, as much as I love the game, you'd be hard pressed to find enough players willing to play a 16 hour session at once, unless it was a special occasion (like if you usually play online, but you all get the money and time to fly out and meet up in person, and you make the whole day about playing one uber long, in person session or something).
Imagine how much more entertaining this shit would've been if Call of Cthulhu or Vampire the Masquerade came out before DND
Call of Cthulhu did come out before D&D, it's about 50ish years older.
@@SlavaMakhno The TTRPG, not the story.
I feel like lovecraft would hate Call of Cthulhu and that makes me want to play it more
Oh, these religious nutjobs would have a field day with Vampire the Masquerade 😂
"it's a far-out game. Maiming, killing..."
Yeah, why not read this nice wholesome bible instead! There's only 2 instances of genocide!
And definitely no rape, not in my good christian book!
Totally not any other terrible things either!
It's just a grand old time through & through!
Only 2?
@@xaayer Yeah, those are just the ones God commanded the Israelites to do not the ones God actually committed Himself or that were threatened in the End Times.
@@DamnedSilly I assume you mean the Canaanites? Yeah. God clearly had the Canaanites killed despite the fact he later commanded the Israelites not to marry them or make business deals with them.
How can you marry someone you have destroyed?
@@kaiserproductions1278 Another lovely contradiction in a book full of them. So, which part is wrong? Is it _not_ genocide because it was only ordered in _some_ cities?
@@DamnedSilly Yes? It's actually ethnic cleansing. They know what they did.
I once downloaded the Necronomicon as a PDF. When I opened it, my laptop crashed just after flashing I'LL SWALLOW YOUR SOUL. When I took it to Best Buy, the Geek Squad guy went insane just before meeting a grisly death.
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:)
I feel like in a time of quarantine, D&D would be skyrocketing. I mean who wouldn’t want to leave this shitty reality.
I think D&D is experiencing a boom thanks to quarantine.
A lot of things are experiencing a boom now. Like Clone High
Due to the likes of discord, Roll20, and Tabletop Simulator, there is definitely ways to play tabletop stuff online of all forms. The question is just how hackintosh modding you need to do very specific things.
Except for how they’ve bent the knee to political correctness cancel culture
I actually started playing this quarantine
The Three D's: Dungeons, Dragons, Dodge, Duck, Dip, Dive and Dodge
Aka how to play a rogue.
Dungeons, dungeons and more dongeons?
@@bonogiamboni4830 you mean dash, disengage and hide? Heh.
Just read out the entire D chapter of the dictionary 😂
"If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a Fireball."
I used to play D&D in the way back when. My mom accused me of being a satanist. She took all of my books and "figurines" and burned them.
My only thought now is that the figurines were actually made out of lead...so not the best best thing g to incinerate.
Then what happened?
Having a father that has once or twice voiced his disproved of the game I think I have insight into why the more fanatic people legitimately believe the game is evil, or at least their "reasoning" for it. They probably believe that since stuff like your prayers and thoughts have an effect on you spiritually, it must mean that thinking you're some sort of character that in their religion would be heretical, like a wizard, warlock, or the cleric/priest of another diety (surprisingly that last one especially) would make you more susceptible to such heretical things irl. I brought up that one of my character's was a cleric but seeing as how the god he worships is not capital G 'God' or Jesus, it must be a bad influence on me (I didn't want to bring up the polytheistic in system found in most settings for obvious reasons and I'm agnostic anyway).
But it's obvious that they don't understand the fundamental disconnect between fiction and reality that let's the mind go into these spaces without directly stomping on one's actual worldview and worship. I'm an agnostic playing a cleric and being devout in character, yet I'm not that irl. And all actual religious players tend to simply separate their religious figures from the fictional ones.
Police suspicions were first aroused when they heard the young man in question had beaten his parents at Cluedo since he was 7 years old.
How on Earth do you get beaten by a 7 year old?
@@mariofan1ish Ambushed and if the kid is a legit psychopath, he's not gonna care how badly he hurts you before you get back up. He'll also exploit his parent's natural predisposition not to seriously harm him.
Watching this video made me buy "Dark Dungeons". I don't think I've laughed so hard at a movie since the South Park movie came out in 1999. I particularly like the scene with the audience freaking out and chanting "RPG! RPG!" like they're about to watch an MMA fight. Also, all of the players are young and attractive - not a hint of acne or autism there.