ALL-MOTOR, JUNKYARD LS MEGA POWER. HOW TO ADD 200 HP TO YOUR SBE 5.3L WITH NO BOOST AND NO NOS
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
- CAN YOU ADD 200 HP WITHOUT BOOST? CHEAP JUNKYARD LS POWER. HOW TO ADD 200 HP TO YOUR 5.3L WITHOUT A TURBO OR BLOWER OR NOS. NO POWER ADDERS HERE! HOW TO MAKE MORE ALL-MOTOR LS POWER! HOW MUCH POWER CAN YOU ADD TO A JUNKYARD 5.3L? DO PORTED HEADS HELP? HOW MUCH CAM DO I NEED? WHAT INTAKE SHOULD I RUN? WILL MAX POWER HURT LOW-SPEED TORQUE? CHECK OUT THIS VIDEO WHERE I COVERED EVERYTHING FROM A MILD CAM UPGRADE TO A FULL-ON, HEAD, CAM AND INTAKE MEGA POWER UPGRADE THAT ADDED 200 HP TO A JUNKYARD 5.3L. WHAT PARTS WERE USED AND WOULD YOU DUPLICATE THIS COMBO?
This man deserves at least a million subscribers for all the money he saved the poor man
Absolutely so many great questions answered practically daily
please go tell 1M friends
@@jamiejenkins5643 that's no joke ! Saved me money too
Industry veteran and all around good dood. I agree.
300K subscribers later this month Richard! Nicely done sir.
fingers crossed
@@richardholdener1727 pizza party incoming.
Richard we really do appreciate this! All of it!
thnx for the support
The screwdriver plugging the vacuum line at 1:18 is a cool touch. Plus, there's always a screwdriver handy should you need it.
#toolkit
I've been watching you for a couple years now! Thank you for all the knowledge and being a genuine person. Definitely deserve more views!
I appreciate that!
I just wanted to thank you. It was awhile ago when you first talked about the "truck norris" and it got my brain going with my LM7. It's been running a little over 500 since then. Just recently bought a new Trax for 10k off because wew boy my mileage on a truck with that power and a 4" lift
Duel carb tunnel ram! May not help, but man, it'll look awesome!
agreed
Hell yeah the recipe ive been waiting for my drag mini truck. I bought the holley split single plane and wilson’s manifold’s 105mm 4150 TB for the flying toilet look and to mimic shawn pavlor’s sbf nitrous foxbody but in an LS application. I’m willing to lend out that intake/tb for testing!
I have a split manifold and have tested it-we know what it does
Simply outstanding as usual!💥👍👍🏽👍🏾👍🏼👍🏿
Good video! Probably better for people to spend their money on finding a 6.0l. I would imagine it would cost less than half to get that power from more cubes and have a much better torque curve. 👍
It's currently workin' season, and I'm adding to the winter build fund as I type this. Haha. HCI planned, the V2 lobe BTR n/a cams look pretty nice.. TEA heads & a ported FAST.. 500whp LS1 or bust 😎
5.3 heads afr 11-1 compression or more magic stick cam will get you to 500 wheel also 1 7/8 headers don’t get 1 3/4 for 500hp or Procharger I’m at 571hp 520tq with methanol p1sc-1 texasspeed stage 2 truck cam 1 7/8 headers 8 psi of boost
@@utahcountypicazospage5412Been GM grudge racing since 14 years old till now. Gm Gen 1, 2 Sbc sbe to stroke as well as my fastest 02 mystic teal factory color shift Z28 LS base car. Was the first to put a full weight true stock tq arm suspension F body car in the 80s, 5.80s. we bk in the Sbc days made over 500Hp with not as nice flowing LS heads. On 93 and on c16 even more. Hell got close to that on one of my working my way up cam only Ls1 aluminum sbe max effort cam only N/A motors and car before the spray. This maybe new to y'all but not people who grudge race these Sbc and LS motors.
And an amazing personality to finish off.
We need a maxxed out 5.3 build with absolutely everything done to it to see what the max hp NA can be without changing the stroke or the bore
SO FAR-THIS IS IT-BUT IT GET VERY EXPENSIVE FROM HERE ON OUT
This is it man. The BTR short runner is one of if not the best intake manifold. 102mm is the biggest. Trickflow is known to have the best flowing heads especially when CNC ported. Anything over 600 lift is exceptional for a cam. 500 to 550 lift is on the larger side as well. So 600 lift cam is maxed out without running pistons with larger valve reliefs.
@@richardholdener1727 run bigger cam/ add a lot more compression with out messing with block.
I feel like without doing some science out super high comp custom EVERYTHING, this is about the limit.
Unless you buy an LS7, arguably the ultimate NA LS.
@@mobiusone3923 def need more compression but. no where close to the limit.! A set of better flowing heads there’s a few options out there and you can even order a set with custom combustion chamber sizes none milled. Basically filled chamber. 14:1 compression ethanol / methanol / q16… there’s lots of options with fuel… I bet he could make another 100hp with a lot more compression and better fuel. Another couple hundred hp with nitromethane… “stock stroke - stock bore” could even get a bigger cam and cut valve reliefs in the oem pistons. I’ve seen some wild stuff from a ls1 not much from 5.3s I think people would just rather start bigger because pump gas is life. I wanna Richard do some m1/ nitromethane stuff. Cletus made 480whp on a bone stock 5.3L in a Silverado thru a 4x4 transmission… 100% oem 5.3L even stock manifolds… just no air box. Made 260ish on 93 then he Made 280ish I think on methonal.. but when he went to m1/nitro mixed it made 480whp after it was all said and done. That’s a 550-580hp 5.3L if it was on an engine dyno like Richard does them.. BONESTOCK… with full Accessories might I add :D
The one other thing you could do to take advantage of more camshaft without spending money is you could fly cut the stock pistons . Just a thought .
Rpm, gear and converter would make the last combo much quicker than the rest. In a drag application of course. With the right gear and converter the lost of torque wouldn't be noticed at all
Richard I would like see this test more suited to a daily driver truck for the best torque/power gains
Did you watch the Low Buck Truck cam only part of the video? That is daily driver truck
Hi Richard! I'd like to see a TPI-style extra longrunner intake with low LSA cam to increase the low-midrange torque in an LS-engine
I’d like to see itbs on this engine. Preferably stuffed under the hood of my ‘92 bmw e36…but that’s kind of a pipe dream if I’m honest.
Love it. Can we compare this with the destrocked 6.0
Sure beats trying to squeeze 400 hp from a junkyard 318 mopar for $4000 ! LS motors rule !
Methanol carbed version
That is the magic question in automotive isn't it....Can I do this? And it isn't just performance questions.
I would like to see a comp cam with low shock technology tested in this combo. As well as heavier duty pushrods to test deflection at peak. TUNNEL RAM TEST!!!!
TUNNEL RAM, DUAL QUADS, METHANOL!!!!
TUNNEL RAM, DUAL QUADS, METHANOL, SMALL BORE REC PORT LS3's!!!!!!!
Performance Design XS & PTR would be interesting
If you wanna make good average power with short runners, especially on a small displacement combo, you gotta get serious with the valvetrain and turn that thing 10% beyond the rpm where peak rpm comes on. Otherwise - what's the point, a good peak number but a gutted average that would be slower going down the track?
I'd love to see how the Harrop Hurricane performs.
I want to see what kind of power gains comes from revving out a small-ish cam like an LS9 or BTR Hotrod cam to 7500rpm with a trinity intake
I’d like to see the max HP version sleeved/destroked to 5.0L. My dream engine is a trans am style high revving 5.0 junkyard LS build
Bryant made 3.0-inch stroke LS cranks which the Daytona Prototypes ran in 4.0-inch bore (6.0L) blocks to make a 302.
Great video, I'd rather have the 510hp version. Awesome builds though!!!
I would love to see a Holley low ran with 2 650 carbs on it. I bet it makes more power everywhere!
THE LOW RAM MAKES LESS IN EFI TRIM, BUT MIGHT DO WELL WITH CARBS.
I think you need to collaborate with Lake Speed Jr for some trick rings and cylinder bore finish...use Line2Line coatings to make up for the increase in bore size from re honing. Lake Jr no doubt has an oil suggestion too. Think he could give you 10-20hp with all of that ?? :-).
Spoke with Lake long ago on this motor
I would like to see it really back yard style with a carb on top
May I be a litle bonkers?
This last setup but with longer runners and ITBs
I’m curious about how an engine with a really big cam would react to VVT, if it’s possible to broad the torque band, maybe run the same combination with the cam retarded and advanced, maybe valve pockets are a must…
it is-but not the same way as reduced duration
I'd like to see a tighter LSA, long runner, huge CID Gen III/IV. But, I know you're working on a limited budget.
I would like to see a test to make more HP and Torque down LOW in the RPM range of the 4.8 & 5.3. I have an 05 Suburban w/5.3, a 06 Silverado w/4.8, and a 07 Tahoe w/5.3 and all of them SUCK from take off. They have to get over 4K before you feel any power. The 4.8 is rated @ 285hp & 295lb, the Suburban 295hp & 335lb, Tahoe 310hp & 334lb. I had 4 bolt main 350's back in the 70"s with lower ratings but would melt the tires from take off. If you already have a video like that please point me in that direction. I grew up with the TORQUE MONSTERS and now it seems the only engines out there with low end torque is the Diesels. Thanks for your videos.
tune, long tube headers, gearing and converter all help that
@@richardholdener1727 I did change the gears in my 4.8 to 4:10, and it did help a bit. Thanks
How would the btr intake compare to say like a super victor efi intake? Last combo seems like it would be good for a combo with linited traction or maybe a autocross/road race car
Hello guys, I just got an LS 200 2.0L F1G-E71 engine for a pack of beer and couldn't say no because it's my member card to the wild and crazy engine crew! I do not know much about this engine, so I am counting on you guys to let me know how much of a ranch I can build for a fun car with this engine. It's just an engine at this point, and I have not chosen what car body I will squeeze it in! I am from the French Caribbean and I have access to an unlimited amount of parts for mods, turbo and all! So please let me know how many horses I can fit into it with and without mods! Thank you so much
Hell yeah
I wouldn't mind seeing the same test with the FAST LSXHR intake with the medium and long stacks. You've probably already done something similar...
I have run the Perf Design version of the that intake
What about a 4150 style manifold also
it would've been incredibly funny if the video just ended at 0:28 😂😂
Always get 1-7/8 headers never 1-3/4 it makes a big difference especially when cammed 1-7/8 keeps giving power
the dyno says the difference is minimal
Stack, please stack injection!
I would see how much stage 1, 2, an 3 supercharge change horsepower an turbo
Mr Richard, I have a technical question on getting all the power I can, inside a certain envelope on how radical the engine is .
I'm contemplating a driver old school car with a carbed LS. I have an l33 block, a set of 6.125 h beam rods , and a set of TF 205 cnced heads . Thinking of building a 383 with 11:1ish compression . The TF heads have pretty small chamber and my question revolves around which combo would be more efficent w the same compression ratio ....... a small chamber w a matching dish or a flat top with a larger chamber .
I am thinking a small chamber with a matching piston dish would have a better quench area and have better mixture motion. This will be a NA 383 w a custom cam with an eye towards a wide tq curve and spin to somewhere around 6700-6800 with peak power around 6400-6500. Plan is for a tr6060 , 4.11 rear gears , in a 3300-3500 lbs car ( 65 mabilu ) . It will be my car for whatever , from grocery trips to trips to the mountains . It will be my hotrod fix too , as I'm getting too old to tinker and own multiple projects .
So, any knowledge on which piston/chamber combo would be more efficient ?
Thanks in advance !
I think you might be concerned about something that might not be measurable-I like flat tops with proper quench, but the real question is do you have access to different (chamber size) heads that are as good as the TFS 205 heads? Also, not sure what you mean by efficient? Is that peak power, average power, peak torque, or fuel mileage? My recommendation is put it together and drive it.
@@richardholdener1727 I'm just trying to choose the combo that will promote the best fuel burn and put together the best NA combo I can for my last build. As far as heads go , I'd just sell or trade the 205s if they aren't the ideal port/chamber size for a 383 . I question the heads because I bought them a couple years ago when I was planning a forged 5.3 twin turbo truck build that I abandoned. They are designed for smaller cube 4.8-5.7 stuff according to TF . I kinda like the idea of the small ports on a 383 for the velocity (?) , but I don't want more than 11.2 or so compression because I'm not planning a big cam .. I don't want to run a thick heads gasket to cheat compression down because I want good quinch . This is what brought the question for you on combustion chamber size and piston configuration . If a dish creates a mixture motion problem, I will swap these 205s for one if the many good cath heads out there with a 65-68cc chamber. Efficiency in this case just means a good burn , mixture motion , and quench . I'm going to do a carb on a dual plane . It seems to me that good mixture motion is even more important with a carb because of the way it delivers the fuel . I want a carb for simplicity and the dual plane because , although it's not much better than the old ls1 intake up top, your tests have proven it is the king of low rpm power . A nice tq rush at low rpm , rowing through a manual gearbox is one of the true pleasures of hotrodding imho
I'm expecting the cam will be in the 227-230 intake and 235-239 exhaust with an lsa around 107-109 . Lift will be as much as the heads top out at on flow numbers. If the flow numbers call for more than around 570 lift, I will run a full roller rocker arm . I can't seem to find a flow chart on the 205s , so I will probably take them to Mr Killian, our local head porting guru and have him flow bench them . All this stuff just adds a couple hp here or there , but that's what separates the average build from the ones that run better than they should . A lot of the effects wouldn't likely even show much on a dyno , but the personality of the engine is affected.
I will probably run an annular booster carb too. They have shown big low rpm tq advantage over dogleg or straight boosters because they do a great job of atomizing the fuel.
I've had cams ground on average lsa spreads and tighter lsa spreads and from personal experience , the tighter lsa always makes for a quicker reving , snappier engine ...things I don't think are easily seen on an engine dyno, but make for a fun bullet .
Your advice has been golden for me on a past built and I just wanted your input on this build. Thanks for all you do for us average backyard builders .
I'd like to see a Holley midrise 300 137 manifold with a 2" spacer under a 1000cfm 4bbl throttle body.
that intake does not seem to perform well in my testing
@@richardholdener1727 the 4150 carb style manifold for a single 4bbl
I had a 1974 Chevy El Camino, and it had a 350 motor with some modification, but I could only get 6000 rpm with an after market ignition system, MSD 8.5 mm spark plug wires, and a MSD blaster coil, but I never messed with an LS 5.3, so I am curious can this LS 5.3 motor safely run over 7000 RPM because I always wanted to run 4.1 gear ratio.
a 350 can run higher than 6000 rpm
@@richardholdener1727 I am curious if a different camshaft can make a stock 350 engine go over 6000 rpm safely, but I am curious if it will need new pushrods, lifters, and springs?
How about a holley dual quad manifold with 2 small 450cfm carbs.😊
THINK BIGGER
Noticed when discussing intake manifolds (low ram type) some anxiety. Sometimes I'm wrong but just in case please take care.
some anxiety?
@@richardholdener1727 I mean no disrespect. When speaking anxiety side effects causes heartburn & swallowing changes that I picked up on. Navy Vet. here. Could be nothing (and totally wrong) but just in case I wanted to mention take care of you cause no one else will. Not a hater thing just a prayer. Keep up cool videos I learn from 👍
I can't help but want about 14PSI of turbo added to the intake lol
If I use a 4.8 crank 4.8 rod bore out the block to 5.7 so I can fit 5.7 pistons would give it more horsepower set up. Would this set up work? I need help my head is killing me.
increasing the bore size will add displacement and power, so will increasing the displacement by increasing stroke length
@@richardholdener1727 can u make a video about it and do a small explanation or big don’t matter I trust you more than anyone else
That Stage IV cam looks like it wants to redline closer to 7700
only with the short runner BTR Trinity intake
yes, yes i would spend all that time and money for an additional 200hp n.a
The stock 5.3 can live @ 7+000 rpms? Just, asking. I, saw the dyno chart. I know, you turned it that high. Can, it sustain shifting that high, on a daily basis? Not, trying to be stupid, here. Are, they built that well, from the factory?
THIS MOTOR HAS OVER 500 DYNO PULLS-100 OR MORE AT 7500+ RPM. I GOT IT USED FROM THE JUNKYARD.
What can be expected from a GM Z06 cam in a stock Lm7 or L33 5.3 then?
please see the video where I ran all the stock cams including the LS6 cam
What about a Holley Sniper Fabricated Dual Plenum Intake Manifold?
I've never heard good things about their QC with those. I'm not even sure if they even actually make them.
those are better for low end
I would rather see an engine build for useful power. Bump the torque curve by 100-200 lbft between 1500 and 5000 rpms.
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that takes boost
I'm also curious how much would power bump up if you started with a 6.0 and same build
over 600 hp
I have an LH6. Is this possible on my motor too? I deleted AFM already.
yes
Everything in life is a compromise!
Where did you get that shirt? That's awesome!
My wife made it-but I have shirts available tomorrow
@@richardholdener1727 Where do buy your shirts? Watched you for about a year and didn't know that, lol.
Stack 💯
i am doing your 510 HP build on my 5.3, The 220 heads are sold out everywhere, would i still be able to run the Red Hot Cam with stock heads and would it be worth porting the stock heads ?
PROPERLY PORTED 706 OR 243 HEADS CAN MAKE SIMILAR POWER
@@richardholdener1727 awesome appreciate it, thank you for the build
Try a single plane and a Holley 850HP
Nelson racing x ram intake
Been waiting on this vid I have 98transam gen 3 5.3 deal but the motor was trash when I bought it end up getting a gen 4 so seeing which way I’m going I’m hearing with gen 4 is better for boost and gen 3 being better for natural aspirated I just want a nice street car that will gap them scatpack boiz 😂 my car has 4L60E 3k stall F9inch Rear nall I need is the motor work and my 21st coming up 7/23 I’m tryna ride
a Gen 4 is better for boost and NA-but the Gen 3 will make plenty (we did 1400+ hp with a turbo gen 3)
Keep the ls1
@@alkey7266 1st build it came 5.3 swapped I have a 96 1500 with the ls1 they dam sho can take a beating I could see why you say keep the ls1
@freebandz4731 ls1 is one of the many reasons why I love the last generation trans ams. I sold my black 98 6speed t tops with the cleanest none cracked interior and I miss it dearly
I think ida went with the way more torque from 4200 to 6100 rpm
What about changing piston rings to a low friction ring?
ALREADY SPOKE TO LAKE SPEED ABOUT THAT
How about a carburetor and single plane?
WORKS FINE
Does anybody make a tall ,tunnel ram intake for an ls engine ? .I am putting a 5.3 in an 48 Chevrolet pickup. I may have like 2 ft of space above my intake
Holley Hi Ram
Is a 4.8 with 5.7 piston a possibility?
yes
@@richardholdener1727 like 5.7 block with 5.7 pistons and 4.8 crank and rods how much hp u think it will make
texas titan intake
Stroke it to a 383 and get more torque
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Just curious are this numbers 93 octane or e85?
91 octane
TFS 220 As cast clears the bore on a 5.3?
yes
@@richardholdener1727 That is great to know. I have a set of TFS 220 on my 5.7 LS1 with twins. It's good to know when I blow the LS1 up, I can put the TFS heads on the L33 I have on the stand. Thanks for that info!
What fuel are you using?
91
What car it came from the stock 5.3???
trucks
@@richardholdener1727 and vans, too !
LM7 Iron Block
L33 Aluminum Block
Tunnel ram 2x4 s
Gotta get compression up. 12:1 or so. If you're adding camshaft and no compression you made a mistake.
that is incorrect
Not if you want good power. Remember....you told me to try making 100hp/L a while back. You're using a engine dyno and I'm almost there at the wheels.
I would have easily exceeded that on a engine dyno. Be closer to about 110/L going off your engine dyno vs chassis dyno vid.
Yippy skippy!
6.0s next video
Cost?
yes, plenty as mentioned
Lol but cost? I think a turbo and methanol injection would be cheaper
Methanol not needed for 200 hp
Intake with a carb and one with a holley sniper
? LS 4 cylinder is real ? Used in construction and farm equipment
There's a guy running around Houston with one in a Fiero.
Victor and domantor
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5,7LS turbo 6,0,6,2 oouchhh😢7,2LS nou😢 noh
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boost is better
It is for a gen 4 f body.
Stop putting weird manifolds on these and just go ITB