THANKS to you , we fired up our first junk yard rebuild yesterday! Your “straight to the point” videos are some of the best. We have real jobs and no sponsors, so budget mined swap was the path we took. Keep up the GREAT WORK!
Man, Richard...you are AWESOME!!! 10 different combinations of the 364cid LS is a TON of work and you have shown us the results so expertly...my sincerest thanks...now I KNOW what to do with my SBC
I mean it’s not flipping a coin easy but compared to my 4wd non electric fan motor in truck putting mods on a engine on a stand is way less ‘work’ then somebody doing it in the backyard
thanks Richard here a Joke fer Ye:::: A truck driver from Alabama who has been driving around the country for two weeks stops at a brothel outside Kansas City. He walks straight up to the madam, drops $300 and says, “I want your ugliest woman and a grilled cheese sandwich.” The madam is astonished. “For that kind of money you could have one of my best girls and a three-course meal.” The driver replies, “I’m not horny, I’m just homesick.”
How's that combo running U? I'm about done with mine. Went with 2 inch valves opened up to a 90% throat. Goin stock cam for now. Oh & I went flat top & gen4 rods
One of the comp cams ups mech. Chris case, I haven't gotten it together yet. Waiting on my roller to be done before I put it all together. Had the heads on a 402 with a 250 shot and big cam in a 4700# truck and went 11.9 @ 107. Unfortunately, I'm having issues with getting enough flow to release the lockup on the multidisc converter in the 4l80e
Loving this. Quit tinkering with cars when I became a dad. A couple of decades later, I am trying to rebuild a 65 caddy and the ls motor swap seems the best way to replace the original motor which I killed in 1989. My dad, a mechanic for 40 years of his life, seems as excited as I am about the idea since it's the last car he and I worked on together. Keep feeding me information. You are awesome.
Oh yes, just tuned in. I have a Trailblazer SS with only 30,000 miles. You're the reason I'm not just going to slap a turbo kit on it I guess I'm going to build the engine and get it ready for boost first.
I also have a Trailblazer ss with the 6.0. I put the trick flow cam in mine and It's a beast. I also replaced the valve springs, installed long tube headers 3200 stall converter with a full trans rebuild with sonnex heavy duty input shaft and clutch drum , heavy duty output shaft, sun shell, sprag assembly, Corvette servo, and I'm sure that I'm forgetting something lol. Cold air intake and it was street-tuned by a local tuner.
Richard I have been casually watching videos for years, just as a average joe gear head and general LS enthusiast. Lately I have been deciding on what to do with a LY6 engine that had spun a cam bearing. This video has given me so much insight on an attack plan. You are awesome man!!
@@richardholdener1727Hello I own a Chevrolet express 6.0 LQ4 with 90,000 miles, I live in France in a region where the climate is temperate, I do 6000 miles per year, I drive mainly in the summer, and I tow a 6000 lbs trailer, should I stick to the oil recommended by the manufacturer 5W30 or can I use a 5W40 for example???
LQ9/LY6 shortblock (both 10:1 compression, LQ4 is 9:1) with a stock truck cam, 4.8/5.3 heads and stock truck intake (or a dualplane carburetor intake with 600-650cfm carb) would give you pretty much the best low end you can get.
Matt G. Agreed, it just be cool to see the numbers. I’m going with a 220/230 stage 2 in my Hemi 6.4 Stroker with 11:2:1 compression, and a 3K stall. I’m hoping this will give me the better low end vs the stg 3, for 5400Ib crew cab 4X4 Ram. I’ve learned from a Richard to not over cam.
In-depth, methodical testing for the win. This is the helpful info to have in hand when laying down the cash needed to make these builds come to life. Thanks for the dedication to do this right!
@@aps454 Lol yes indeed! And turbo porn, blower porn, big block porn, small block Ford porn...he's got so many porn categories, but my favorite is head.
I"m using a lq4 block, 408ci, TF 235 cc cathedral heads, LSXRT manifold, 102MM throttle body, upgraded injectors and a custom cam for the street. It made over 600hp on the engine dyno and gobs of torque all over. Cant wait to get it into the car and drive it.
@chuckchuck8274 fuel injector clinic 1000cc injectors. I started off with holleys but the idle was way too hard to get right. FIC injectors cleaned it right up, though.
I’m a SBC guy I have no clue what I’m doing with my 6.0 but with your videos I feel like a pro, just did my DoD delete waiting on my cam I’m scared as I work on it but excited at the same time 🤘🏽 Thank you Uncle Richard 💪🏽
I remember back when you'd have to have a fully built sbc 350/383/400 just to run in the 12s and they were ready for a rebuild after 100k miles. Now, guys are running deep in the 11s with a junkyard ls with 350k.
if its a full drag or if its a good fun street car that you like to race or something, the amount of kms shouldnt matter. if ur there for a good time and a fun time, its not about miles per gallon or kms....its about smiles and seeing how happy it makes someone else
Do a ultimate 4x4 torque ls engine combos test..im sure 4x4 guys would want to know a stump puller ls engine combo . Your videos are awesome...my note book is getting full of ls knowledge thanks to you and your dyno data..
Hello, I think it would really be beneficial if you could somehow have a summary chart illustrating the power gains of each combination. I take notes but can't keep up :) Thanks!
Sloppy stage 2 with req heads and you have a great truck set up. 8-10 poinds boost and you got a killer street truck. Thanks Richard. Sloppy stage2 all day long.
My dream motor is becoming a reality after watching your vids sir! I’m looking at a carbureted lq4 with 823 heads, victor jr intake manifold, and either a sloppy stage 2 or possibly even a truck Norris cam with long tubes. I’m hoping to see 450+ at the wheels of my 73 Nova.
As always, so helpful. I've posted some comments before about a '96 Impala SS swap I am working on sourcing a motor for and while a aluminum block would be nice, I think our best option is grabbing a LY6 mated to a 4L80E from a Chevy Express or Silverado 2500. I appreciated these straightforward videos of things to consider to make decent horsepower out of the gate that is free from any marketing gimmicks. Thank you!!
Hey Richard, you did the perfect test for me! I’ve got an LY6 on the floor of my garage as we speak. For a street truck on a budget I’m going to skip the $2400 TFS 225s and stick with the factory rec-port heads. Reading between the lines a bit, that is 20hp or so better than the factory cathedral port combo. My choice is a BTR NA LS3 Stage 2 cam with a 225° intake lobe. It has a nice amount of overlap, around 5.5° at 0.050, an should work well with a stock converter in a 6L90. Lots of work left to do but come spring it should be up and running. Keep the tons of info flowing!
GM CNC ported LS3 heads or if price is not a concern AFR rectangular port 260cc mongoose there 2800 dollars my CNC ported LS3 heads l got in 2008 costed 1200 dollars less than half they can make 560 horsepower on a stock bore and stroke 6.2 or 6.0 with the right cam these AFR heads with 415 LS3 stroker and the right cam 670-690 horsepower and 620 horsepower with CNC ported LS3 heads
Thanks for the comment. For me, the “mild” 6.0 has more than enough cylinder head with the stock rec-ports. You can make more power with more cam and head flow, but my truck will be just a driver. If I were building a 415 or larger I’d agree completely!
whats funny is about 8 years ago I had my 317 heads really worked. Bigger valves, milled .040 off, ported and alot of bowel work. I put a custom cam from Billet cams in my LQ4. I sure wish I would have known this way back then. FYI the motor after dyno tune in my chevy 2500 4x4 does over 400 torque at the 33 inch tires.
I would like to see more videos on LS engines for producing more torque in the 1500-5500 RPM ranges. Some people want a nice street strip engine that they can gear to drop into overdrive around 55 MPH @1500 or less RPMs.
I’m going to change out the heads on mine (LQ4), pop a decent cam in there and run it. Can’t wait to feel the good torque curve and have highway reliability (over the 455 Olds I currently run). The Olds doesn’t like 3400rpm at 75 mph, where the LS will be waking up at that point
Richard- I’ve been building a turbo LS to swap into my BRZ recently (all from months of information from your videos). This video spoke to me. Thank you for all that you do.
i love your videos. the one thing i wish the videos had was a shot of the engines idling so we could tell the sound of each cam. Im sure many will complain but often i think people choose cams for power and sound. for example i have a Lq4, and i might want to run that 469 cam over the 459 just because it might lope a little more without a giant trade off
I just had my newly acquired 706 heads cleaned up with .570 springs and a BTR Truck V2 Stage2 Cam for my LQ4. Also topping it off with a TBSS intake. Cant wait to see what my Butt Dyno registers.
Love seeing videos with combos like this. I'm slapping together a budget LQ9 shortblock build with leftovers from various previous builds.. Starting with 243 heads and tbss style intake and tb ( gen4 5.3 ) along with multiple ls3 blue and LS6 yellow valve springs, which will be using the yellow's since they are good for .570 lift vs blue LS3's .550 lift. All I'm buying are (or bought) were the x-link adaptor, LS2 head gaskets and after long thought I picked the sdparts LS6 power max cam over tsp stg2 low lift cam. Since SDparts cam was just $239 shipped new vs tsp $300+ and both are close spec'd, seems like it's gonna be a great combo for my 04 Tahoe. I will be using a remanned stall converter good for 2200 stall speed. I'm not sure if I'm going with long tubes as its my DD.. But def. at minimum using shorties and ory to go with my catback.
I was convinced that putting the 706 heads on my 6.0 would be the best for my application, truck with lift kit, don't need to go over 80 miles an hour, don't really ever run it past five grand. But apparently the 706 heads are bad about cracking people are saying. 799/243 mill 30,000 seems to be the ticket for my lq4 Trailblazer SS or Dorman or fast or just skip the piddling around, 408 stroker kit gap rings bigger injectors fuel pump TURBO 🤤
I am currently deciding the route to take with my lq9 w/ 799 heads. I would love to see a specific 6.0L 799 build off to see what the best combo of intake and cam is. Love the vids keep them coming!!!
Before divorce I was going to put an LQ4 stroker (402) in my 2002 Yukon. But because of divorce I drove it another 5 years. I'm laughing at that too. Great information on this channel.
We are about to cam swap a stock 2012 caprice with the rec head 6.0. We are torn between the SS2 or the 459 and for what we want i thank you for this video. The 459 is the winner.
6.0 trickflow cat port 215 milled to 12-1 comp. comp 237/241, ported fast 102, fast 102 t.b. Made 522 H.P. and 430 T.Q. on a Dyno Jet though a locked 4,000 stall Yank converter. 12 years ago. North of 600 flywheel.
I really wish I would've jumped on the LS train when it was still coming and getting popular. I have a Buick 430 I thought I'd get running cheaply and mostly stock to have some fun while I sourced and set up an LS style motor and fixed other issues with the car. I started sourcing parts and then thought, "nah I don't need to spend the money twice, I should just go straight to the LS." When I first started looking I remember you could 5.3s for like 1000 bucks, now I can't find a single one for sale in my area and when they do come up people want $2500-3000 bucks for a motor with over 100000 miles on it. Recently I started thinking well I'll just a buy a running vehicle with a 5.3 or 6.0 even though I don't have the space for it, but I'll figure it out and at least get my car back on the road. Then I found out people want 8grand for a truck with 150000miles on it here lol. Now I have no LS, no big block Buick, no running car lol. Waited too long planning and thinking. Bummer!
I just bought a junkyard 6l LS , planning on stuffing it in a 04 Pontiac Aztek, and switching to a pure RWD set up. Hopefully inside two years, I'll be updating this comment with a link to some video's :)
So much great information. Only additional info I wish you'd talk about when you're going over the graphs is what the timing numbers were at. I read so much about timing for the LS2 vs the LQ4 and rec needs less/more timing than that and I really don't know how they relate. Maybe there is no difference at all. I can find dyno graphs for days for my setup but I put LS3 heads on an LQ4 with a 222/230 596/600 cam and have no idea where to go for timing numbers. I've read 16-32 but who really knows haha. I watched your timing video and that was great, just not sure if rec port timing = cathedral port timing and how compression ratio(or lack there of starting with a LQ4) plays into how those numbers move around. I know, I know, verify timing..... Thanks for everything you put out there, longtime subscriber, first time poster.
First of all these videos are great and I know they take a lot of work. Thumbs up and hat tip to you and your team. The LS engine is know for it's broad power band and I've seen so many street driven cars chase peak HP numbers only to be giving up 50+ lb-ft at 1,500 to 2,500 rpm where most street driven cars spend their time. So, my question is could you start your pulls a bit lower, say 2,000 RPM? This would give your audience a much better picture of the drivability they are sacrificing for mid and upper engine speed power.
Well I am 3yrs back on this comment as just some random dude, but can offer insight for future folks wondering. These dynos put a simulated load on the engine and at WOT that load at so low rpm is going to lug the engine and skew the results of the full pull. Typically on the street your converter/trans wont lock up until 1500-2000 or higher if aftermarket to let it get into the power band. Another example is if you're in say 2nd gear rolling at low mph and try flooring it. It's going to lug and feel like a turd until it starts making power, then it'll "wake up" and pull. Horsepower is measured based on torque and RPM, so the accuracy is better when you have the motor spinning up. Also these LS motors specifically, really don't start making power until the 2500-3000ish range anyway, so it is going to show really sad numbers until it starts eating some air and farting out power!
I got lucky and chose the correct parts. 2001 6.0 block, BTR stage 3 cam, 243 heads, hardened pushrods, billlet timing chain set, LS6 intake. No idea on power numbers but good enough for my '01 Z/28!
Hi, How about a LS Low RPM Torque Monster ... Horse Power is cool , But " Torque " Makes It Move ! Like A engine For Tow Vehicles . Great Work !!!!!! Thanks !!!! :)
Dual plane, ASA 226/236-110 cam, AFR cathedral heads (or just some cleaned up 243's) --- That said, it's fine the way it is. The red truck on my profile has a stock LS3 with headers. 2.97 first gear, 3.42 posi, 245/65/17 Toyo Open Country AT3's. If you lift at 35mph and floor it again, you jump straight to 5500 RPM with tire smoke. If you punch it doing 20mph, it squeals the tires and accelerates at the same time until it hits 58mph, on the rev limiter. The only time a 6.0 feels slow, is in a 4x4 extended cab, 4L80E, 1500 stall, with 3.08 gears and 33" tires.
@Guns Cars and Digits pretty sure he means low speed torque. Best combo I’ve found for that 706 heads Lq4 bottom end or lq9 if you wanna run 93 Tbss/07-up intake And any stage 1 high lift truck cam with a tight LSA Have yet to see that on a dyno but all those parts are good for low speed torque or best average torque Edit: or turbo/LSA
@@JohnnyAnderson1 thats basically my setup but it runs out on top end. im going to try ported 706s and tbss or fast 102. To keep the compression. Dont wanna go with bigger cam cuz i wanna keep my low end
You have the best vids with the most information that matters. Somehow you make something complicated seem simple. I cant wait to build my engine will be taking alot from these videos to do so. Thanks for the great content
Thanks for all of this entertaining content Rich! I really enjoyed the LT1 content! I'm a diehard Honda guy, so I really enjoyed the B16A content too. I have one in my basement with forged Wiseco 9.8:1 pistons and Eagle rods with Cylinder Support Systems block guard. I'm saving it as a backup in case my built LSVTEC dies in my EJ8 Civic coupe. It currently makes 612 wheel horsepower at 22.5 psi on a Garrett GT3582R dual ball bearing turbo.
@@richardholdener1727 What would be the best cam for a 2005 Escalade 6.0. Thinking of adding turbo also. Looking for something not really choppy and adds torque. It’s a daily and will be towing my 5000 lbs every once in a while
Wow thanks for all your hard work and diligent testing Richard. I was about to put a stock LS3 cam (was given it free) into my L77 but now I see there are much better options out there.
The biggest takeaway I get from this video is that the single biggest power adder is a good cam. Unless you are only worried about power above 6,000RPM then just change out the cam. All your usable power is from 3,000 to 4,500 where we all drive every day. Port match your intakes to your heads, degree your new bigger cam and go drive the thing!
Ok I'm a new b what does port match your intake to you heads and how do you degree your new cam when I watch cam swap videos all I see is them pull the old cam put and slide the new one in
Be honest with what you want to do with your combination and pick your parts for the combination from there. Most of the power difference between the stocker rec port head and that trick flow head is on that particular block you’re giving up a four point compression which is why I think Richard mentioned compression in the beginning of the video.
Timely video...Just today I put the truck intake on the 6.0 going in my 76 C10, going by Richard's videos it got 706 heads, long tubes, and a 205/217/112 drop in cam because it broke a lifter on the old one and I went as low buck as possible. Going for bottom end grunt rather than top end power, because its a freakin truck I plan to use pulling my drag car around and parts chasing in the summer. Maybe next year it will get a bigger cam and a 4L80 but right now its getting a Th400 and a stock 2000 stall. If it makes 500hp I would just about crap myself, because I would not expect it. I do expect it to make a lot better grunt than the 454 sitting on the floor now. I have another one, so it could get some aftermarket heads and a bigger cam to go in my other truck, an 88 C1500 shortbox.
Best channel on you tube! I would like to see a comparison of a motor optimized for pump gas vs one optimized for e85 Also the steps to optimize for e85. Like how do you bump up the compression ratio and what to? How do you corrosion proof the fuel system? Injector sizing?etc.
My combo!! I am selling my 2001 GMC Sierra 2500HD 370ci 6.0L LQ4. I have owned this truck for years now and just finished a major overhaul on it. The engine has been completely redone, it was tore down rebuilt from the ground up, has been mildly built. It is a strong running truck, the motor has about 8,000 miles on it. Computer has been tuned by Justin of Black Bear Performance, using EFI live. Runs 93 octane. Has brand new PRC 220cc 5.3L Stage 2.5 CNC ported heads. I used Valvoline VR1 non-synthetic oil for break in and now I run Royal Purple. I have around $5000 into this build with machine work, parts, labor and misc expenses + A lot of heart and time. Engine Parts List: PRC 220cc 5.3L Stage 2.5 CNC ported heads - Comp Cam 918 Springs (Up to .600" lift) - 2.02"/1.575" Valves 224R Comp Cam Texas Speed grind 224/224 duration .581/.581 lift Sealed Power .30 over Hypereutectic Pistons SP Plasma-Moly Rings NMotion Single Roller Billet Timing Set Hardened Pushrods LS7 Lifters Melling High Pressure Oil Pump All new GM and Fel-Pro Gaskets New main, rod and cam bearings installed Exhaust: Pacesetter Long Tube Headers Dual Borla XR-1 Racing Mufflers 3" tubing What do you think of this combination?? Time for intake/fuel rail/throttle body upgrade, any suggestions?? I love 💕 your videos man!! I remember the first time I saw you on engine masters I was like whoa wait a second who is that guy!! 😹
Great vid! I’ve got a 6.0l in the garage I’ve been waiting to build after seeing this I think I’ll try some bigger tfs 235 heads with the fast 102mm and perhaps twin turbskis.
hendo337, it’s not going to be a budget build, it will have all forged guts anyways. I’m looking for no less then 1000hp to the wheels thru a built t56 in a 93 f-body. The real debate is ditching the 6.0l and buying a lsx block instead.
hendo337 I was leaning towards the gm 376 lsx block if I did end up going big. Because of the 6 bolt head capability. I’ll look into the dart block tho. I originally looked into boring and stroking my lq4 but read about when you stroke them the sleeves aren’t really long enough and you get some piston slap, combined with boost the over bore from the stroker kit also takes meat away from the cylinder bore making it more likely to push the heads up or blow the head gasket under high boost. Atleast that’s what I read online so take it with a grain of salt. But your probably right I’d be fine with the lq4 and stock 317 heads with forged guts for the power level I want but you know the old sang goes go big or go home! Be nice to be able to push that hp goal higher after a while too so I was thinking ahead too.
yes all good with out hi flowing cats and full exhaust you also don't have the auto trans set up, so around 15 to 20% lose of HP to the rear wheels is not mentioned in any of the upgrades ,no point showing the HP at the flywheel or flexplate, you need to put in approx HP lose due to valve train friction loses. :)
Great videos as always! I have a question when it comes to static and dynamic compression for a daily driver/ street driven vehicle what would be the limits on an aluminum headed vehicle in terms of the absolute extreme and the lowest you’d want?
I was told that .600 is maximum lift on a 2 in. valve. My cam is 600 lift intake and exhaust. 111 lsa and 220 duration on both intake and exhaust. It works really well.
Thanks Richard, I got an LY6, Definitely going with that 54-459-11 cam...thinking about putting new springs and porting the heads for a little more power...
This man alone is changing the used LS engine and parts market.
He’s doing the lords work.
@@bri-manhunter2654 Amen Brother, Amen !
All it took was one person !
@@bri-manhunter2654 the lord aint got shit on him
@@christopherclaure6689 , dude, give it a rest.
My young son turns off his video games and sits with me when I watch your awesome videos. Thank You for that!!!
AWESOME
THANKS to you , we fired up our first junk yard rebuild yesterday! Your “straight to the point” videos are some of the best. We have real jobs and no sponsors, so budget mined swap was the path we took. Keep up the GREAT WORK!
Thanks for sharing. My goal is to freshen up my LQ4 in my 2004 2500 Silverado. There’s a lot of great information in your video.
Man, Richard...you are AWESOME!!! 10 different combinations of the 364cid LS is a TON of work and you have shown us the results so expertly...my sincerest thanks...now I KNOW what to do with my SBC
@@AnonymousNinja82 The term "LS engine" is used to describe any Gen 3 or Gen 4 Small Block Chevrolet. Durrrrrrr
@@AnonymousNinja82 technically it is a chevy... and it is a small block...
I mean it’s not flipping a coin easy but compared to my 4wd non electric fan motor in truck putting mods on a engine on a stand is way less ‘work’ then somebody doing it in the backyard
I'm making mod on a L96 364 going to eat fan an long headers to a single gt45 turbo
thanks Richard here a Joke fer Ye::::
A truck driver from Alabama who has been driving around the country for two weeks stops at a brothel outside Kansas City.
He walks straight up to the madam, drops $300 and says, “I want your ugliest woman and a grilled cheese sandwich.”
The madam is astonished. “For that kind of money you could have one of my best girls and a three-course meal.”
The driver replies, “I’m not horny, I’m just homesick.”
Lmfao! Epic
lol..damn
I don’t remember telling anyone that story.
HAPPENS EVERYDAY. DAY IN AND DAY OUT, SO THINK HOW MUCH CASH IS MADE. :)
The home work you do for this channel is second too none 10/10
thnx-check out the new water/meth video
11 months later and this still helped me decide on a cam for my LQ4 with ported 706s 🤘
TFS SS2?
How's that combo running U? I'm about done with mine. Went with 2 inch valves opened up to a 90% throat. Goin stock cam for now. Oh & I went flat top & gen4 rods
One of the comp cams ups mech. Chris case, I haven't gotten it together yet. Waiting on my roller to be done before I put it all together. Had the heads on a 402 with a 250 shot and big cam in a 4700# truck and went 11.9 @ 107. Unfortunately, I'm having issues with getting enough flow to release the lockup on the multidisc converter in the 4l80e
Loving this. Quit tinkering with cars when I became a dad. A couple of decades later, I am trying to rebuild a 65 caddy and the ls motor swap seems the best way to replace the original motor which I killed in 1989. My dad, a mechanic for 40 years of his life, seems as excited as I am about the idea since it's the last car he and I worked on together. Keep feeding me information. You are awesome.
Any updates on that car?
@@whatta7793 sadly, health issues and a divorce have gotten in the way
TFS 225 heads, Fast LS2, Comp 54-469-11 cam, ultimate engine in car combo
im about to swap my truck with the lq4 6.0 would this combo bring out the most performance out of it
Oh yes, just tuned in. I have a Trailblazer SS with only 30,000 miles. You're the reason I'm not just going to slap a turbo kit on it I guess I'm going to build the engine and get it ready for boost first.
I also have a Trailblazer ss with the 6.0. I put the trick flow cam in mine and It's a beast. I also replaced the valve springs, installed long tube headers 3200 stall converter with a full trans rebuild with sonnex heavy duty input shaft and clutch drum , heavy duty output shaft, sun shell, sprag assembly, Corvette servo, and I'm sure that I'm forgetting something lol. Cold air intake and it was street-tuned by a local tuner.
Bravo! Where was this kind of information 20 years ago when I was building stuff.
This is totally LY/LQ mod cliff notes! Haha
Richard I have been casually watching videos for years, just as a average joe gear head and general LS enthusiast. Lately I have been deciding on what to do with a LY6 engine that had spun a cam bearing. This video has given me so much insight on an attack plan. You are awesome man!!
good luck
@@richardholdener1727Hello I own a Chevrolet express 6.0 LQ4 with 90,000 miles, I live in France in a region where the climate is temperate, I do 6000 miles per year, I drive mainly in the summer, and I tow a 6000 lbs trailer, should I stick to the oil recommended by the manufacturer 5W30 or can I use a 5W40 for example???
Richard I want to see the torque 6.0 combo lol. Thank you for all the testing!!
LQ9/LY6 shortblock (both 10:1 compression, LQ4 is 9:1) with a stock truck cam, 4.8/5.3 heads and stock truck intake (or a dualplane carburetor intake with 600-650cfm carb) would give you pretty much the best low end you can get.
Torque 6.0 build: install 6.0, tune, drive
Agreed, I want to a torque combo!
@@bri-manhunter2654 read the post above, a stock cammed 6.0 with some 862s would be the best combo.
Matt G. Agreed, it just be cool to see the numbers. I’m going with a 220/230 stage 2 in my Hemi 6.4 Stroker with 11:2:1 compression, and a 3K stall. I’m hoping this will give me the better low end vs the stg 3, for 5400Ib crew cab 4X4 Ram. I’ve learned from a Richard to not over cam.
In-depth, methodical testing for the win. This is the helpful info to have in hand when laying down the cash needed to make these builds come to life. Thanks for the dedication to do this right!
Love it! I have a 2003 with a 6.0 in it right now and I want to build it so this is actually helping me a ton! Thanks Richard
Once you get past the German porno music at the beginning you're a Holdner fan forever
That's LS porn music now.
@@aps454 Lol yes indeed! And turbo porn, blower porn, big block porn, small block Ford porn...he's got so many porn categories, but my favorite is head.
Don't forget "other guy" porn... 😉
I thought it was 80’s disco music
When u hear that song. U know u about to go balls deep in an engine.
I"m using a lq4 block, 408ci, TF 235 cc cathedral heads, LSXRT manifold, 102MM throttle body, upgraded injectors and a custom cam for the street. It made over 600hp on the engine dyno and gobs of torque all over. Cant wait to get it into the car and drive it.
What injectors u running
@chuckchuck8274 fuel injector clinic 1000cc injectors. I started off with holleys but the idle was way too hard to get right. FIC injectors cleaned it right up, though.
I’m a SBC guy I have no clue what I’m doing with my 6.0 but with your videos I feel like a pro, just did my DoD delete waiting on my cam I’m scared as I work on it but excited at the same time 🤘🏽 Thank you Uncle Richard 💪🏽
Good stuff
I remember back when you'd have to have a fully built sbc 350/383/400 just to run in the 12s and they were ready for a rebuild after 100k miles. Now, guys are running deep in the 11s with a junkyard ls with 350k.
if its a full drag or if its a good fun street car that you like to race or something, the amount of kms shouldnt matter. if ur there for a good time and a fun time, its not about miles per gallon or kms....its about smiles and seeing how happy it makes someone else
Do a ultimate 4x4 torque ls engine combos test..im sure 4x4 guys would want to know a stump puller ls engine combo . Your videos are awesome...my note book is getting full of ls knowledge thanks to you and your dyno data..
Hello, I think it would really be beneficial if you could somehow have a summary chart illustrating the power gains of each combination. I take notes but can't keep up :) Thanks!
These videos are helping me a lot on deciding how to build my Cadillac Escalade with a 6.0
Sloppy stage 2 with req heads and you have a great truck set up. 8-10 poinds boost and you got a killer street truck. Thanks Richard. Sloppy stage2 all day long.
My dream motor is becoming a reality after watching your vids sir! I’m looking at a carbureted lq4 with 823 heads, victor jr intake manifold, and either a sloppy stage 2 or possibly even a truck Norris cam with long tubes. I’m hoping to see 450+ at the wheels of my 73 Nova.
As always, so helpful. I've posted some comments before about a '96 Impala SS swap I am working on sourcing a motor for and while a aluminum block would be nice, I think our best option is grabbing a LY6 mated to a 4L80E from a Chevy Express or Silverado 2500. I appreciated these straightforward videos of things to consider to make decent horsepower out of the gate that is free from any marketing gimmicks. Thank you!!
Glad to help
Hey Richard, you did the perfect test for me! I’ve got an LY6 on the floor of my garage as we speak. For a street truck on a budget I’m going to skip the $2400 TFS 225s and stick with the factory rec-port heads. Reading between the lines a bit, that is 20hp or so better than the factory cathedral port combo. My choice is a BTR NA LS3 Stage 2 cam with a 225° intake lobe. It has a nice amount of overlap, around 5.5° at 0.050, an should work well with a stock converter in a 6L90. Lots of work left to do but come spring it should be up and running. Keep the tons of info flowing!
GM CNC ported LS3 heads or if price is not a concern AFR rectangular port 260cc mongoose there 2800 dollars my CNC ported LS3 heads l got in 2008 costed 1200 dollars less than half they can make 560 horsepower on a stock bore and stroke 6.2 or 6.0 with the right cam these AFR heads with 415 LS3 stroker and the right cam 670-690 horsepower and 620 horsepower with CNC ported LS3 heads
Thanks for the comment. For me, the “mild” 6.0 has more than enough cylinder head with the stock rec-ports. You can make more power with more cam and head flow, but my truck will be just a driver. If I were building a 415 or larger I’d agree completely!
Yoooo I LOVVVEEE UUU II BEEEN WONDERING WHAT U EXPLAIN THE BEGINNING FOR SOOOOOO LONG. MUCH LOVE AND BLESSINGS MAN. LOVE 5.3,6.0 VIDEOS.
Simmer down there big slugger
whats funny is about 8 years ago I had my 317 heads really worked. Bigger valves, milled .040 off, ported and alot of bowel work. I put a custom cam from Billet cams in my LQ4. I sure wish I would have known this way back then. FYI the motor after dyno tune in my chevy 2500 4x4 does over 400 torque at the 33 inch tires.
I would like to see more videos on LS engines for producing more torque in the 1500-5500 RPM ranges. Some people want a nice street strip engine that they can gear to drop into overdrive around 55 MPH @1500 or less RPMs.
Richard is a wealth of information the amount of knowledge he has is awesome he truly helps us all out...
I’m going to change out the heads on mine (LQ4), pop a decent cam in there and run it. Can’t wait to feel the good torque curve and have highway reliability (over the 455 Olds I currently run). The Olds doesn’t like 3400rpm at 75 mph, where the LS will be waking up at that point
Richard- I’ve been building a turbo LS to swap into my BRZ recently (all from months of information from your videos). This video spoke to me. Thank you for all that you do.
i love your videos. the one thing i wish the videos had was a shot of the engines idling so we could tell the sound of each cam. Im sure many will complain but often i think people choose cams for power and sound. for example i have a Lq4, and i might want to run that 469 cam over the 459 just because it might lope a little more without a giant trade off
This is a god tier video to find now that I’m in the market to buy a C6 Vette
Cant wait for more GenV L83 content, specifically mild daily/tow combos
The direct injection and variable cam timing are beyond huge, I hope 50-100 hp cam gains require only a stock ECU...?
I just had my newly acquired 706 heads cleaned up with .570 springs and a BTR Truck V2 Stage2 Cam for my LQ4. Also topping it off with a TBSS intake. Cant wait to see what my Butt Dyno registers.
I dig your Commodore avatar. Kudos!
Awesome work! Can't wait for your torque series. But that sloppy stage 2 looks pretty good. Haha
Greatest junkyard engine build information on RUclips
Love seeing videos with combos like this. I'm slapping together a budget LQ9 shortblock build with leftovers from various previous builds.. Starting with 243 heads and tbss style intake and tb ( gen4 5.3 ) along with multiple ls3 blue and LS6 yellow valve springs, which will be using the yellow's since they are good for .570 lift vs blue LS3's .550 lift. All I'm buying are (or bought) were the x-link adaptor, LS2 head gaskets and after long thought I picked the sdparts LS6 power max cam over tsp stg2 low lift cam. Since SDparts cam was just $239 shipped new vs tsp $300+ and both are close spec'd, seems like it's gonna be a great combo for my 04 Tahoe. I will be using a remanned stall converter good for 2200 stall speed. I'm not sure if I'm going with long tubes as its my DD.. But def. at minimum using shorties and ory to go with my catback.
recently purchased a 2013 sierra with the 6.0L. can't wait to put some money into it!
I love my big block, but you really make me want to go to a 6.0 LS set up or a gen v LT1!
I am running a trailblazer Ss awd it’s heavy so finding the best TQ cam 👍🏻
Light to light haha!
Looking forward to the torque combo video I want to put in my tow rig.
I was convinced that putting the 706 heads on my 6.0 would be the best for my application, truck with lift kit, don't need to go over 80 miles an hour, don't really ever run it past five grand. But apparently the 706 heads are bad about cracking people are saying. 799/243 mill 30,000 seems to be the ticket for my lq4 Trailblazer SS or Dorman or fast or just skip the piddling around, 408 stroker kit gap rings bigger injectors fuel pump TURBO 🤤
I am currently deciding the route to take with my lq9 w/ 799 heads. I would love to see a specific 6.0L 799 build off to see what the best combo of intake and cam is. Love the vids keep them coming!!!
A custom camshaft like 226/232 .600 lift 114 LSA works great From TSP
I know people have different opinions but that’s my 2 cents
Thank you Richard, I'm going to get a ly6 for my car and give it some air.
This video was really helpful and informative, thank you
wonder what you got up ur sleeve
@@bigk5746 i see
Before divorce I was going to put an LQ4 stroker (402) in my 2002 Yukon. But because of divorce I drove it another 5 years. I'm laughing at that too. Great information on this channel.
Absolutely a 6.0 torque build please!!
We are about to cam swap a stock 2012 caprice with the rec head 6.0. We are torn between the SS2 or the 459 and for what we want i thank you for this video. The 459 is the winner.
Get a rcr cam for it if you want fast 1/4 mile n/a times.
@@sapperROSS ill look at that one as well but it isnt going to be a track car. Play toy and occasionally tract time.
Thank you for all this wonderful information. Like others I am really looking forward to your truck 6l torque monster video.
6.0 trickflow cat port 215 milled to 12-1 comp. comp 237/241, ported fast 102, fast 102 t.b. Made 522 H.P. and 430 T.Q. on a Dyno Jet though a locked 4,000 stall Yank converter. 12 years ago. North of 600 flywheel.
Great content! Would also like to see this sort of testing with a 408.
Seconded.
I really wish I would've jumped on the LS train when it was still coming and getting popular. I have a Buick 430 I thought I'd get running cheaply and mostly stock to have some fun while I sourced and set up an LS style motor and fixed other issues with the car. I started sourcing parts and then thought, "nah I don't need to spend the money twice, I should just go straight to the LS." When I first started looking I remember you could 5.3s for like 1000 bucks, now I can't find a single one for sale in my area and when they do come up people want $2500-3000 bucks for a motor with over 100000 miles on it. Recently I started thinking well I'll just a buy a running vehicle with a 5.3 or 6.0 even though I don't have the space for it, but I'll figure it out and at least get my car back on the road. Then I found out people want 8grand for a truck with 150000miles on it here lol. Now I have no LS, no big block Buick, no running car lol. Waited too long planning and thinking. Bummer!
Would love to see the BTR N/A cams tested in a 6.0/6.2 with cathedral and rec. heads.
I just bought a junkyard 6l LS , planning on stuffing it in a 04 Pontiac Aztek, and switching to a pure RWD set up. Hopefully inside two years, I'll be updating this comment with a link to some video's :)
So much great information. Only additional info I wish you'd talk about when you're going over the graphs is what the timing numbers were at. I read so much about timing for the LS2 vs the LQ4 and rec needs less/more timing than that and I really don't know how they relate. Maybe there is no difference at all. I can find dyno graphs for days for my setup but I put LS3 heads on an LQ4 with a 222/230 596/600 cam and have no idea where to go for timing numbers. I've read 16-32 but who really knows haha. I watched your timing video and that was great, just not sure if rec port timing = cathedral port timing and how compression ratio(or lack there of starting with a LQ4) plays into how those numbers move around. I know, I know, verify timing..... Thanks for everything you put out there, longtime subscriber, first time poster.
First of all these videos are great and I know they take a lot of work. Thumbs up and hat tip to you and your team. The LS engine is know for it's broad power band and I've seen so many street driven cars chase peak HP numbers only to be giving up 50+ lb-ft at 1,500 to 2,500 rpm where most street driven cars spend their time. So, my question is could you start your pulls a bit lower, say 2,000 RPM? This would give your audience a much better picture of the drivability they are sacrificing for mid and upper engine speed power.
Man the best question on you tube to do with these categories!!!!!!!!
Well I am 3yrs back on this comment as just some random dude, but can offer insight for future folks wondering. These dynos put a simulated load on the engine and at WOT that load at so low rpm is going to lug the engine and skew the results of the full pull. Typically on the street your converter/trans wont lock up until 1500-2000 or higher if aftermarket to let it get into the power band. Another example is if you're in say 2nd gear rolling at low mph and try flooring it. It's going to lug and feel like a turd until it starts making power, then it'll "wake up" and pull. Horsepower is measured based on torque and RPM, so the accuracy is better when you have the motor spinning up. Also these LS motors specifically, really don't start making power until the 2500-3000ish range anyway, so it is going to show really sad numbers until it starts eating some air and farting out power!
I got lucky and chose the correct parts. 2001 6.0 block, BTR stage 3 cam, 243 heads, hardened pushrods, billlet timing chain set, LS6 intake. No idea on power numbers but good enough for my '01 Z/28!
good combo
Best channel on RUclips! Thank you!
my favorite man for the subject .
Hi, How about a LS Low RPM Torque Monster ... Horse Power is cool , But " Torque " Makes It Move !
Like A engine For Tow Vehicles . Great Work !!!!!! Thanks !!!! :)
TURBO
Dual plane, ASA 226/236-110 cam, AFR cathedral heads (or just some cleaned up 243's)
--- That said, it's fine the way it is. The red truck on my profile has a stock LS3 with headers. 2.97 first gear, 3.42 posi, 245/65/17 Toyo Open Country AT3's. If you lift at 35mph and floor it again, you jump straight to 5500 RPM with tire smoke. If you punch it doing 20mph, it squeals the tires and accelerates at the same time until it hits 58mph, on the rev limiter.
The only time a 6.0 feels slow, is in a 4x4 extended cab, 4L80E, 1500 stall, with 3.08 gears and 33" tires.
@Guns Cars and Digits
pretty sure he means low speed torque.
Best combo I’ve found for that
706 heads
Lq4 bottom end or lq9 if you wanna run 93
Tbss/07-up intake
And any stage 1 high lift truck cam with a tight LSA
Have yet to see that on a dyno but all those parts are good for low speed torque or best average torque
Edit: or turbo/LSA
@@JohnnyAnderson1 thats basically my setup but it runs out on top end. im going to try ported 706s and tbss or fast 102. To keep the compression. Dont wanna go with bigger cam cuz i wanna keep my low end
Tyrell James yea running out up too is always a trade off to low speed torque
You have the best vids with the most information that matters. Somehow you make something complicated seem simple. I cant wait to build my engine will be taking alot from these videos to do so. Thanks for the great content
Thanks for all of this entertaining content Rich! I really enjoyed the LT1 content! I'm a diehard Honda guy, so I really enjoyed the B16A content too. I have one in my basement with forged Wiseco 9.8:1 pistons and Eagle rods with Cylinder Support Systems block guard. I'm saving it as a backup in case my built LSVTEC dies in my EJ8 Civic coupe. It currently makes 612 wheel horsepower at 22.5 psi on a Garrett GT3582R dual ball bearing turbo.
nice B-series combo
That engine must have an incredibly racey power band
@@richardholdener1727
What would be the best cam for a 2005 Escalade 6.0. Thinking of adding turbo also. Looking for something not really choppy and adds torque. It’s a daily and will be towing my 5000 lbs every once in a while
Wow thanks for all your hard work and diligent testing Richard. I was about to put a stock LS3 cam (was given it free) into my L77 but now I see there are much better options out there.
I'm about to start building my l77. What did you end up doing for your setup?
Thank you for your great content Richard, best youtube channel ever.
Wow, thanks
Why would someone give a thumbs down to this? This is great 👍!
Ford boys
I’d like to see a head to head of a 5.3 stroked to a 6.0 vs a lq9 .
No comparison because of the smaller cylinder diameter
Perfect timing! Just what I needed for my 6.0 liter Tahoe swap....Thank you Rich!
I just got my 08 tahoe 5.3 swapped with a ly6
The biggest takeaway I get from this video is that the single biggest power adder is a good cam.
Unless you are only worried about power above 6,000RPM then just change out the cam.
All your usable power is from 3,000 to 4,500 where we all drive every day.
Port match your intakes to your heads, degree your new bigger cam and go drive the thing!
What would you recommend?
I'm trying to pull a 44ft fifth wheel.
@@zachariahmagallan5738 In the past Richard has recommended the BTR "Truck Norris" cam for it's low end grunt.
Ok I'm a new b what does port match your intake to you heads and how do you degree your new cam when I watch cam swap videos all I see is them pull the old cam put and slide the new one in
How do you know so much about engines? I am honestly in awe...
I mean especially for the money the sloppy stage 2 is great but I mean that is a lot of lift and duration on the bigger cams vs SS2
I agree! Sloppy stage 2 seems to be the best bang for your buck and easy on the lifters and rockers.
for us guys without the nice flat tops try the same test with a lq4 and also try a carb intake in the mix
Be honest with what you want to do with your combination and pick your parts for the combination from there. Most of the power difference between the stocker rec port head and that trick flow head is on that particular block you’re giving up a four point compression which is why I think Richard mentioned compression in the beginning of the video.
Richard I've learned everything I need to know to be successful in a 6.0l build. You're the fuckin man
Waiting for the ford 6.2 and the 7.3 I think the 6.2 will impress everyone with a few tweaks
Fords are garbage. Not worth the time or money
Timely video...Just today I put the truck intake on the 6.0 going in my 76 C10, going by Richard's videos it got 706 heads, long tubes, and a 205/217/112 drop in cam because it broke a lifter on the old one and I went as low buck as possible. Going for bottom end grunt rather than top end power, because its a freakin truck I plan to use pulling my drag car around and parts chasing in the summer. Maybe next year it will get a bigger cam and a 4L80 but right now its getting a Th400 and a stock 2000 stall. If it makes 500hp I would just about crap myself, because I would not expect it. I do expect it to make a lot better grunt than the 454 sitting on the floor now.
I have another one, so it could get some aftermarket heads and a bigger cam to go in my other truck, an 88 C1500 shortbox.
Great job. I don't know of anyone doing all these test
Factory untouched Ls3 heads and intake manifold don't make as much power as TFS heads and FAST intake manifold but think about the price difference.
Best channel on you tube! I would like to see a comparison of a motor optimized for pump gas vs one optimized for e85
Also the steps to optimize for e85. Like how do you bump up the compression ratio and what to? How do you corrosion proof the fuel system? Injector sizing?etc.
Have u done or can u do a similar video on a 5.3? Thanks!! Thanks for all the info and videos!! I appreciate it!!
Do a low buck, mid range, high end Turbo 6.0 and 5.3.. great vids and info. Love It!
see his big bang 6.0 vids. 1500hp from stock bottom end 6.0
I don’t think anyone has dyno tested as much as Richard!!!! You might as well buy a Dyno and do it all the time!!!!!
That's too funny...
I just posted the Sam thing.
Thanks Richard for the information it helps a bunch of what I got going on have a good one letter buddy
Yes home brew cathedral port heads
My combo!!
I am selling my 2001 GMC Sierra 2500HD 370ci 6.0L LQ4. I have owned this truck for years now and just finished a major overhaul on it. The engine has been completely redone, it was tore down rebuilt from the ground up, has been mildly built. It is a strong running truck, the motor has about 8,000 miles on it. Computer has been tuned by Justin of Black Bear Performance, using EFI live. Runs 93 octane.
Has brand new PRC 220cc 5.3L Stage 2.5 CNC ported heads. I used Valvoline VR1 non-synthetic oil for break in and now I run Royal Purple. I have around $5000 into this build with machine work, parts, labor and misc expenses + A lot of heart and time.
Engine Parts List:
PRC 220cc 5.3L Stage 2.5 CNC ported heads
- Comp Cam 918 Springs (Up to .600" lift)
- 2.02"/1.575" Valves
224R Comp Cam Texas Speed grind 224/224 duration .581/.581 lift
Sealed Power .30 over Hypereutectic Pistons
SP Plasma-Moly Rings
NMotion Single Roller Billet Timing Set
Hardened Pushrods
LS7 Lifters
Melling High Pressure Oil Pump
All new GM and Fel-Pro Gaskets
New main, rod and cam bearings installed
Exhaust:
Pacesetter Long Tube Headers
Dual Borla XR-1 Racing Mufflers
3" tubing
What do you think of this combination??
Time for intake/fuel rail/throttle body upgrade, any suggestions??
I love 💕 your videos man!!
I remember the first time I saw you on engine masters I was like whoa wait a second who is that guy!! 😹
What length pushrods did you end up using?
Great vid! I’ve got a 6.0l in the garage I’ve been waiting to build after seeing this I think I’ll try some bigger tfs 235 heads with the fast 102mm and perhaps twin turbskis.
hendo337, it’s not going to be a budget build, it will have all forged guts anyways. I’m looking for no less then 1000hp to the wheels thru a built t56 in a 93 f-body. The real debate is ditching the 6.0l and buying a lsx block instead.
hendo337 I was leaning towards the gm 376 lsx block if I did end up going big. Because of the 6 bolt head capability. I’ll look into the dart block tho. I originally looked into boring and stroking my lq4 but read about when you stroke them the sleeves aren’t really long enough and you get some piston slap, combined with boost the over bore from the stroker kit also takes meat away from the cylinder bore making it more likely to push the heads up or blow the head gasket under high boost. Atleast that’s what I read online so take it with a grain of salt. But your probably right I’d be fine with the lq4 and stock 317 heads with forged guts for the power level I want but you know the old sang goes go big or go home! Be nice to be able to push that hp goal higher after a while too so I was thinking ahead too.
yes all good with out hi flowing cats and full exhaust you also don't have the auto trans set up, so around 15 to 20% lose of HP to the rear wheels is not mentioned in any of the upgrades ,no point showing the HP at the flywheel or flexplate, you need to put in approx HP lose due to valve train friction loses. :)
Great test. I am always surprised by the cathedral port heads and stock intakes.
1 small turbo and a tune is my favorite on the 6.0.
Hi Richard. Love your stuff. Just have been waiting for you to test the Trick Flow 245cc heads on one of these combos. Cheers
This is the third video I've seen of yours and I love it. Very informational. I subscribed
Welcome aboard!
Great videos as always! I have a question when it comes to static and dynamic compression for a daily driver/ street driven vehicle what would be the limits on an aluminum headed vehicle in terms of the absolute extreme and the lowest you’d want?
Im waiting to see your mods on a gen V 6.2. Thanks for the info Richard. Hope to meet you one day.
Thanks #Richardholdener, love to see you test the Magnuson blowers
Really enjoy your videos very useful information I’m getting all my information on my 6.0 an see what you think I’m making in HP
Love the "Wong Cam!" emoji! Lol
I WAS ROLLING!!!!!
I was told that .600 is maximum lift on a 2 in. valve. My cam is 600 lift intake and exhaust. 111 lsa and 220 duration on both intake and exhaust. It works really well.
I love my LQ6 crate engine. Has the same power as my LS5 but with more torque like my LR9 👍
those are hard to come by
Thanks Richard, I got an LY6, Definitely going with that 54-459-11 cam...thinking about putting new springs and porting the heads for a little more power...