Why Playing Doomfist Feels Awful - Overwatch 2

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  • Overwatch 2 Doomfist is underwhelming, let's take a look at Why Playing Doomfist Feels Awful
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  • @chewy4722
    @chewy4722 Год назад +9279

    another example: junkrat made concussion mines out of literal garbage and they can do double to damage

  • @hurkypandora82
    @hurkypandora82 Год назад +4618

    Doomfist has become the literal meme of the Boss when you fight him vs when you unlock him

    • @Gegnog
      @Gegnog Год назад +6

      420th like

    • @Priinsu
      @Priinsu Год назад +28

      Super Robot Wars does this so much its actually super frustrating. There will be a boss with 16,000 HP, who dodges damn near everything you throw at them, has barriers, and hits like a truck. Then, they switch over to your side for you to use and they instantly get massively nerfed in all areas.😑

    • @user-pl9qq4wc5n
      @user-pl9qq4wc5n Год назад +16

      In the cinematic where he fought 3 Overwatchs heroes at once, (I forgot 2 of them), he was fighting enraged winston which is past Super Human level. Here he does 50 damage with what is supposed to be one of the strongest and most feared hitting in overwatch lore.

    • @disappointedfather5218
      @disappointedfather5218 Год назад +8

      ​@@user-pl9qq4wc5n the other two are Genji and Tracer

    • @marcosc869
      @marcosc869 Год назад +3

      Aurelion sol before rework

  • @IronMan-ds5bi
    @IronMan-ds5bi Год назад +7409

    I miss Doomfist's DPS days...

    • @thedetectove
      @thedetectove Год назад +404

      Same here. I dropped the character entirely because I hated the tank doomfist play style.

    • @hectoralvarez7785
      @hectoralvarez7785 Год назад +45

      @@thedetectove same here

    • @lunawashington1060
      @lunawashington1060 Год назад +282

      As a support main, I truly do not miss it. It is one thing to be pushed around like a pinball. However, it is another to find out that pinball just lost it's life and has to respawn to rinse and repeat the entire game :) I like Doomfist as a character though and I will say they really botched this one.

    • @destinywhigham7961
      @destinywhigham7961 Год назад +130

      I don't lmao to hell with the fucking insta-kill on 4 second cool down. Good riddance

    • @user-qv2gq8kv6s
      @user-qv2gq8kv6s Год назад +32

      I don’t :)

  • @alwin_nagel_fan8865
    @alwin_nagel_fan8865 Год назад +1749

    Ramattra has more of a Doomfist than Doomfist himself

    • @MaddixCuhming
      @MaddixCuhming Год назад +42

      Ramattra has a better block both both blocks r just a worse version of a reinheart shield

    • @granityseis104
      @granityseis104 Год назад +1

      no

    • @nediAW
      @nediAW Год назад +54

      @@granityseis104 yeah, each Ram punch is 60 damage. Rams punch lasts 8 sec. effectively 480 damage. 6 times that if doom

    • @QaundaleDingl
      @QaundaleDingl Год назад +13

      It’s ridiculous that the devs haven’t realized how bad doomfist is compared to rammattra

    • @granityseis104
      @granityseis104 Год назад +10

      @@QaundaleDingl no,they know how bad it is,it is simply making doomfist making powerfull reduces enjoyment of other players,specially supports,they nerfed briggida for the same reason.

  • @laszlogruber3794
    @laszlogruber3794 Год назад +1225

    I went from one tapping squishies to just tapping squishies.

    • @loserinasuit7880
      @loserinasuit7880 Год назад +31

      Hot

    • @Kvzadlchuga
      @Kvzadlchuga Год назад +24

      Four tapping squishies

    • @theiceygamer4742
      @theiceygamer4742 Год назад +33

      As a Lućio main getting punched by it went from ah I’m not gonna survive this to ah I’m mildly inconvenienced anyways…

    • @SgtWienerberg
      @SgtWienerberg Год назад +19

      I went from being terrified to play support while there was a doom to “oh hey look, he poked me and i murdered him in self defense”

    • @mythicaltwinkie8216
      @mythicaltwinkie8216 Год назад +6

      To be fair, getting one tapped isn't really fun for the DPS, and the whole point of the game is to be fun.

  • @PoIaring
    @PoIaring Год назад +1630

    At this point, just change his name to Fist

  • @dumbly-stupid
    @dumbly-stupid Год назад +347

    "Full charge punch and 4 shot with great aim and my entire kit is all I need"

    • @davidj3841
      @davidj3841 Год назад +44

      And a truckload of copium it seems

    • @monkeyl-
      @monkeyl- Год назад

      All you needed is one punch back then

    • @sleepy-Arc
      @sleepy-Arc Год назад +9

      Copium

    • @9001Shadowwolf
      @9001Shadowwolf Год назад +59

      ​@@davidj3841 he's referencing DFs "one punch is all I need" voiceline

    • @CCT07
      @CCT07 Год назад +34

      @@davidj3841 It’s a reference to his “one punch is all I need” voice line.

  • @Jacon8r
    @Jacon8r Год назад +213

    I'm sorry OW1 Doom mains. I'm praying for you.

    • @secretaryberd2899
      @secretaryberd2899 Год назад +15

      i have 1300 hours on doom with hanzo being my second most played character at 28 hours. DoomPrimaryFire isn’t the same

    • @latinletters1700
      @latinletters1700 5 месяцев назад +1

      I got 1074 hours on doom here and man he just sucks to play he gets cced by everything cant tank shit cant pick supports since they all have get out of jail free card he just cant really do anything

    • @EliiKlee
      @EliiKlee 4 месяца назад

      ​@@latinletters1700yea hes definitly the second worst tank to get counterpicked (ball is just plain useless with a sombra/cassidy/ana on the enemy team he got it worse)

    • @marcelohenrique1770
      @marcelohenrique1770 2 месяца назад +1

      thanks for the prayers, he's way better now, but still kinda hard to play

  • @abclutchb7586
    @abclutchb7586 Год назад +1053

    The real OGs understand why he’s getting a saitama skin.

  • @efrainsilva1875
    @efrainsilva1875 Год назад +193

    Instructions unclear. Doomfist will be nerfed next patch

    • @twotonerebel2022
      @twotonerebel2022 Год назад +10

      Seems like a reason to nerf genji

    • @smusky4643
      @smusky4643 Год назад +5

      Please for the love of God... nerf Moira in Total Mayhem! She's broken, literally. Why play any other healer? She can go invincable invisable & gain a speed boost every 3 seconds with her phase shift, you can't kill her because she can spam a healing ball every 2 seconds, or a DMG ball if she decides to backline everyone squishy, kill them all, then focus the tanks and heal her entire team with the balls. They nerfed the shit out of Mei in Total Mayhem, she can't freeze shit and her healing shield takes forever to recharge, Ana's sleep dart has it's normal 16 sec cool down in it, I can't think of all the other abilities. But they made Moira overpowered, giving her dumb fast cooldowns on everything.

    • @luljenkings9850
      @luljenkings9850 Год назад +1

      ​@@smusky4643 bro just learn to counter her
      Btw mei is still strong af they maybe nerfed her frezz but they Buffed her dmg so shes even deadlyer and even when you catch her she just frezzes and is full life again and when u finily cought her she Walls and pisses of
      Bro moira has a health Pool of 200 just burst her down or play hog and force her blink

    • @jador9641
      @jador9641 Год назад

      Seems a good reason to nerf Mercy GA of other 10 seconds.

    • @bamboozledpotat3784
      @bamboozledpotat3784 Год назад

      ​@@luljenkings9850 actually 400 and with the nerf roadhog got he cant get 2 hooks in a row on her to kill her anymore he has to get like 4 perfectly timed hooks on her and that's hoping shes solo and not getting bubbled or healed

  • @Leostar-Regalius
    @Leostar-Regalius Год назад +77

    anyone remember his introduction video where he had basically wiped the floor with the overwatch members and it took Winston going rage mode to stop him?

    • @hasturthekinginyellow5003
      @hasturthekinginyellow5003 11 месяцев назад +11

      Remember when a 1v1 between a Tracer and a Doomfist was *THE* moment you could prove yourself as a Doomfist main? Show yourself how you have mastered Doomfist by reading the Tracer´s movements and anticipated her, it was that ability that separated mortals from gods.
      in OW2 Tracer can solo Doomfist with absolutely no effort, and even if Doom manage to hit her, she can survive a full combo

    • @timothyparham5064
      @timothyparham5064 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@hasturthekinginyellow5003 Silver take.

    • @josephdellaripa5081
      @josephdellaripa5081 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@timothyparham5064 You 100% don't play doom

    • @timothyparham5064
      @timothyparham5064 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@josephdellaripa5081 Oh really? And because I don't have issues with tracer on old doom or new doom means I don't play him at all. But oh, it's so hard to hit a 150 HP hero as a 450 HP tank that has a way higher skill ceiling than mosquito lesbian. Guess I don't play him.

    • @Holyghost_444
      @Holyghost_444 29 дней назад

      @@timothyparham5064”mosquito lesbian” 🤣🤣

  • @wanted_melon2348
    @wanted_melon2348 Год назад +206

    Don't forget Orisa's spear which does the same thing as Doom's punch but does more damage and is a projectile

    • @fakepizzahutdominos3048
      @fakepizzahutdominos3048 Год назад +47

      and slows and headshots for some reason and has the biggest hitbox in the game

    • @tristan-smith102
      @tristan-smith102 Год назад +26

      ​@Fake Pizza Hut Domino's and allows you to not commit your whole self and position to put them against a wall

    • @granityseis104
      @granityseis104 Год назад

      no it does not move orisa

    • @wanted_melon2348
      @wanted_melon2348 Год назад +1

      @@granityseis104 what?

    • @bamboozledpotat3784
      @bamboozledpotat3784 Год назад +5

      ​@@granityseis104 but it's a free 110 damage with a 6 second cooldown
      Win win for orisa and L for mr leaky fists

  • @kerpjosales1615
    @kerpjosales1615 Год назад +174

    His name should be "InconvinienceFist"

    • @canadiangopnik7007
      @canadiangopnik7007 Год назад +20

      "MildDiscomfortFist"

    • @ghostiehomie7113
      @ghostiehomie7113 Год назад +9

      SomeWhatOfAnAnnoyanceFist.

    • @Flamemastr
      @Flamemastr 8 месяцев назад +1

      My friends and I call him “shitfist” and “midfist”

    • @brunyplayswastaken
      @brunyplayswastaken 14 дней назад

      @@Flamemastr I've called him 'Foamfist' since October 4th 2022. still going strong.

  • @maganam4964
    @maganam4964 Год назад +319

    At this point we can't really call him DoomFIST but DoomPrimaryFire.

  • @Our_Remedy
    @Our_Remedy Год назад +119

    I still think tankfist should be able to deal damage. Like that should be his thing. He's the tank with the lowest HP, he deserves some more damage

    • @isa300100
      @isa300100 Год назад +6

      Nah he has a lot of CC he doesn't need it.

    • @Our_Remedy
      @Our_Remedy Год назад +21

      ​@@isa300100 you're probably right. It's just annoying that THE DOOMFIST does 80 damage under good conditions, but literal garbage does 100.

    • @granityseis104
      @granityseis104 Год назад

      no

    • @KikiCatMeow
      @KikiCatMeow Год назад +17

      @@Our_Remedygenuinely. Like in-universe Doomfist is one of the most powerful characters, and yet he feels so weak and underwhelming in-game

    • @jador9641
      @jador9641 Год назад +13

      ​@@isa300100 Yeah, a punch that can only stun a single target for 0.5 seconds, and that is easy to dodge lol

  • @lolno6975
    @lolno6975 11 месяцев назад +4

    Streets remember DPS doomfist, with the 125 slam rollouts on Eichenwalde

    • @ZombieaidZ
      @ZombieaidZ 10 дней назад

      Man that shit was the best

  • @ghostlyswat12
    @ghostlyswat12 Год назад +79

    When you realise that torb basically removed bastions ability to repair himself 😅

  • @Meeetyfeet
    @Meeetyfeet Год назад +308

    Now make his health 300 and you've got a character completely outclassed by bastion and wrecking ball

    • @firstnamelastname9237
      @firstnamelastname9237 Год назад +40

      At 300 the man is less tanky than reaper, mei, or briggite. You can literally play any role and be tankier than doomfist in open q, and on that same exact character, probably do more damage too (or else healing)

    • @m4dnezz402
      @m4dnezz402 Год назад +10

      -They should add his uppercut back as a 4th ability but make it so you can only use it while on the ground, kinda like wreckingballs pile driver 50dmg
      -give his old slam back as an option if you (hold) the slam button, the damage can go from 50 capping at 75 but sacrificing it for a much smaller slam area/smaller cone. (Adds small air effect like dps doom did) whereas the tankfist slam will add a (small slow duration) like beta ow2 doomfist
      - make his powerblock 90Mitdmg or leave it at 100Mitdmg
      -empowered+wall is 150dmg instead of 120 because you should be allowed to 1shot a tracer, change stun duration from 0.75 to 0.50 and remove normal punch stun like beta ow2 doom.
      -make his max overhealth stack to 700 instead of 650 to make frontlining actually valuable.
      -make reload time on primary 0.15 seconds longer
      /I say these changes because doomfist has too many counters, no survivability, no damage output whatsoever and it’s very difficult to confirm kills. Ontop of that, doomfist has no real benefits to targeting single individuals anymore whereas every other tank does. Doomfist just needs more mechanics and ways to confirm kills, he’s somehow a terrible tank and a terrible dps, he is nothing rn☹️

    • @justaliljello5198
      @justaliljello5198 Год назад +15

      @@m4dnezz402 I hope you understand what you just said is" make doom the best character in the game" he was literally a top 3 tank too patches ago when his punch cd was ONE SECOND less and you're asking for all this.

    • @monkeyl-
      @monkeyl- Год назад +18

      ​@@justaliljello5198 what else do you expect people to say when you change a character to a different role AND THEN make him absolutely dogshit on that same role you changed him into

    • @renutus1580
      @renutus1580 Год назад

      ​@@banuner_ you can't read? He said one second LESS idiot. As in 3 seconds, not 4

  • @jakobgray9899
    @jakobgray9899 Год назад +3

    I miss the angry grunting doomfist used to do when he charges up his punch. It made it feel so much more badass.

  • @joehudson7007
    @joehudson7007 Год назад +33

    it feels like the hitbox of it is as precise as a widow bullet, so even when you're up close trying to punch you miss.

  • @RaoulsDigitalAdventures
    @RaoulsDigitalAdventures Год назад +6

    Yeah we should give him tanks survivability and the power from old DPS days. We all love a tank that suddenly jumps in from Narnia deletes 2 people gains armor and backs away.

  • @THETVGCHANNEL
    @THETVGCHANNEL Год назад +41

    It's like hitting someone with a pillow

  • @jmun3688
    @jmun3688 Год назад +5

    it's even worse when you realize zens melee does 45 damage

  • @lj1653
    @lj1653 Год назад +25

    the enemy doomfist is either terrible and we steamroll the enemy team, or they were personally coached by zebra and I feel like there's nothing I can do

    • @EBG...
      @EBG... Год назад +4

      Doom main here, best way to counter doom is either ignore him completely, or focus him entirely. Doom is actually weak enough that you only really need 1 person to focus him with hitscan. Focus him if hes good, ignore if he's bad or learning the character. Im giving this info because i like the challenge. I used tell people to play sombra when i play doom just so i can learn how to counter her. Now i can counter her enough to predict her while invis. I still cant beat sombra onetricks tho, they're too annoying to even try.

    • @samwilliams6820
      @samwilliams6820 Год назад +1

      Yeah Orisa fucks us up, focused fire melts doom especially if they get overconfident with power block

  • @yourgodshaggy8151
    @yourgodshaggy8151 Год назад +62

    As a Doomfist Tank main, it is hell playing him and not quiting the character entierly

    • @steven-cf9se
      @steven-cf9se Год назад +1

      Then why do you not play a different hero?

    • @FossorialFungus
      @FossorialFungus Год назад +11

      ​@@steven-cf9se cause nearly every other tank is boring as fuck and requires precisely 0 brainpower to play

    • @WeedNoTobbaco
      @WeedNoTobbaco Год назад +1

      ​@@FossorialFungus huh? but doomfist is even more brain dead when you buff him (was so braindead op they had to nerf him just after 1 week)so you should be happy at the spot he is right now

    • @FossorialFungus
      @FossorialFungus Год назад

      ​@@WeedNoTobbaco I guess you're the braindead one considering you can't just press one button to delete someone and have to actually think because otherwise you get slept or go through a suzu and die immediately.
      The only reason they nerfed him after a week is because idiots like you were extremely mad you didn't learn how to counterplay doomfist because he was shit beforehand. Now he's nerfed even worse than he was in season one because all the fun characters get shit on while the braindead low-effort characters get free passes all the time.
      That "buff" wasn't even that good at first and just made him overtuned while making his core gameplay worse.

    • @krit_j162
      @krit_j162 Год назад

      @@FossorialFungus rein, winston, dva, zarya all require more brain power than doom

  • @soulles-qo4iv
    @soulles-qo4iv Год назад +16

    Sorry to all the doomfist players but a wet paper bag did more damage to me

  • @CallumPage
    @CallumPage Год назад +14

    I would like them to have a doom fist rework and just completely remove the way he is right now. Make his fist the weapon and not a shield.

    • @godzillagamer7512
      @godzillagamer7512 Год назад

      Remove the squirt gun on his hand and we’re good

    • @VaudeVi11eVi11ain
      @VaudeVi11eVi11ain Год назад

      But after using the shield it becomes a stronger weapon

    • @godzillagamer7512
      @godzillagamer7512 Год назад

      @@VaudeVi11eVi11ain slightly.... it is good how it removes the cooldown though

    • @gspeedy619
      @gspeedy619 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@godzillagamer7512not really... if it reset slam too then yeah it'd be great but it just resets punch an ability that has the lowest cooldown in his kit

  • @aretailcashier450
    @aretailcashier450 Год назад +14

    And then theres sigma holding the line for his team to regroup like the fundamental force of nature he is

  • @deangelominifield3525
    @deangelominifield3525 Год назад +97

    The struggles of a doom fist main

  • @anormalguy8407
    @anormalguy8407 Год назад +70

    baby Diva, tiny hands and wrist pistol whipping with a pistol that looks like its made from plastic
    30 DAMAGE
    Ripped Body Builder with the arms of the size of a human body and the worlds most powerfull CyberEnhanced Boxing Arm Glove Charged up for sereveral seconds
    50 damage...

    • @godzillagamer7512
      @godzillagamer7512 Год назад +12

      A cyborg with the power of a literal dragon god in nearly every weapon
      50 damage with a high speed dash *with* a magical wakasazhi

    • @xcrucialbladex3801
      @xcrucialbladex3801 Год назад +6

      A huge Australian woman with a knife
      45 Damage

    • @godzillagamer7512
      @godzillagamer7512 Год назад +2

      @@xcrucialbladex3801 also ripped (and does that include bleed?)

    • @xcrucialbladex3801
      @xcrucialbladex3801 Год назад +1

      @@godzillagamer7512 I know (yes that's with the bleed but it's technically an ability so I thought it counted)

    • @godzillagamer7512
      @godzillagamer7512 Год назад +1

      @@xcrucialbladex3801 damn… wish genji had the same damage for melee

  • @dogs-game-too
    @dogs-game-too Год назад +2

    Literally everyone does more damage punching with a regular melee than his uncharged gauntlet punch, which makes absolutely zero sense.

  • @Hk-ox4bb
    @Hk-ox4bb Год назад +4

    It’s almost as if he was designed as a close-range dps instead of being a tank

  • @justified_wrath_21
    @justified_wrath_21 Год назад +3

    Well blizzard has decided to nerf genji and doomfist once more.

  • @ScorgeTheDemon
    @ScorgeTheDemon Год назад +4

    I feel amazing when playing doomfist but it’s so hard to see the results

  • @AzzySmh
    @AzzySmh 10 месяцев назад +2

    Went from onetapping squishies to 5tapping squishies, getting slept, anti’ed and discord’ed then dying (in which you did like 300 damage in that period of time)

  • @mr.giggles9737
    @mr.giggles9737 Год назад +15

    WE NEED DOOMFIST BACK AS A DAMAGE HERO 😭

    • @xpitohui
      @xpitohui Год назад +4

      without as much cc and 1 less tank, he'd be very broken

    • @gspeedy619
      @gspeedy619 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@xpitohuiOrsia has two cc abilities we can give Doomfist back his uppercut but have it to small damage

  • @Greaseman762
    @Greaseman762 Год назад +7

    Just by your voice I can tell you tried scamming 3 chipmunks out of a record deal

  • @generalgrievous714
    @generalgrievous714 Год назад +4

    Blizzard will see this video and continue to nerf him for no reason

  • @dimitarapostolov9788
    @dimitarapostolov9788 9 месяцев назад +1

    I remember the PTR/Live release Doomfist, he was a literal MONSTER that more than lived up to the name... Nowadays...

  • @Irongrim
    @Irongrim Год назад +2

    All my 1100+ hours of DPS Doomfist down the drain. Tankfist was a mistake. It's so bad.

  • @TypicalCynic_
    @TypicalCynic_ Год назад +39

    I remember the good old days when Doom Fist’s punch did 130 damage at full charge when hitting an enemy and 260 damage at full charge when hitting an enemy into a wall.

    • @doopy8281
      @doopy8281 Год назад +10

      the good days??????
      the days where you can not hide can't run get one tapped and had a combo that did even more trust me you do not what someone like doom strong.

    • @TypicalCynic_
      @TypicalCynic_ Год назад +6

      @@doopy8281 I do actually, because I was a Doom Fist main.

    • @monkeyl-
      @monkeyl- Год назад +17

      ​@@doopy8281 you mean back then when you would get hacked, hooked, slept, shield bashed, rammed and flash grenade stunned the moment they see your red outline?
      Doom literally has the same weaknesses as he did before, if you can counter current doom then you can counter the previous
      Especially since the previous had lower mobility

    • @lukasg4807
      @lukasg4807 Год назад +14

      ​@Doopy old doom was one of the hardest charecters to play at a high level. He was only really OP if you're a bronze with the aim of a wet noodle

    • @SpiritedFalcon
      @SpiritedFalcon Год назад +1

      @@doopy8281 skill issue

  • @whyuheremf
    @whyuheremf Год назад +8

    As a doom otp I can confidently say the following: Skill issue

  • @dragonfiregaming3186
    @dragonfiregaming3186 Год назад +2

    Yeah that moves horrible. But I dealt with a really good Doomfist who gave my Lucio and a Junker Queen a run for a money. Didn't help he had mercy and Ana helping him out

  • @EliqzART
    @EliqzART 10 месяцев назад +1

    Not only that but you also wiff like 80% of your punches because apparently the hitbox of the fist is the size of a bullet while McCrees grenade has a hitbox the size of Roadhog

  • @siranubismax
    @siranubismax Год назад +11

    Honestly with doomfist make it so charging his punch below a second does 40damage and low knockback, charging for 1-2.5 seconds it does 50-60 damage and medium knockback, charging for a full 3-4 seconds does 80 damage and full knockback. Wall splats add 20 damage across the board, and when empowered the others hit by it take half damage and half knockback. Also make his slam bounce people up 2 feet, They can slightly move and are slightly slowed.

    • @martynas1819
      @martynas1819 Год назад +1

      3-4 seconds of not moving is in no way worth 80 damage that would be like 400. And only 20 damage for walls? The wall knockbacks are SUPPOSED to be his most powerful ability

    • @siranubismax
      @siranubismax Год назад +1

      @@martynas1819 you’ve got a fair point. Maybe wall splat on primary target can do 50-75 damage, but on secondary targets from a charged punch it would do 35-45

    • @jackiejackyjaqy...7219
      @jackiejackyjaqy...7219 Год назад

      if he's gonna need to charge it up for 4 seconss it MUST do at least double the damage
      instead of 80 it should do 160 AT LEAST
      and empowered should do the 160+50% which is 240
      not enough to one shot but worth the 4 second cooldown + 4 second charge which makes him bare vulnerable
      taking a risk of being vulnerable in front of the enemies for 4 entire seconds should come with at least 240 damage output considering there is a chance that it may also fail sometimes

  • @GodOfPizza
    @GodOfPizza Год назад +12

    Blizzard needs to just say "we messed up" and bring back DPS doom, remove the stun and make it more like a Lucio boop or whip shot so it's less broken

  • @Epicsavant2
    @Epicsavant2 Год назад +1

    My legit play style swapped from being awesome and having fun to just trying to boop enemies on maps you didn’t know could boop lmao

  • @lamegourd5260
    @lamegourd5260 Год назад +2

    It’s not all that great until you get anywhere near an edge and doom launches you hundreds of feet away from safe ground. 😂

  • @thezerowulf2046
    @thezerowulf2046 Год назад +4

    Doomfist just requires skill. A skilled doomfist is an absolute nightmare to go against

  • @thatonemovieucantremember
    @thatonemovieucantremember Год назад +5

    I consider myself a tank main, so when they made DF a tank, I said to myself "well I guess I have to learn how to play doom" and I always said that they should just make him an off tank........ Till this day, I still refuse to play DF.

  • @Wraithman168
    @Wraithman168 9 месяцев назад +1

    Having used to play doom fist in OW1 extensively, the switch from damage dealer to tank was a dumb one.
    I feel like that scene in the Godfather…
    “Look what they did to my boy… they massacred him”

  • @fortheloveofgodlaugh2981
    @fortheloveofgodlaugh2981 Год назад +1

    It's almost like Doomfist was a character initially created to be a burst brawler assassin with very high damage

  • @swiftlyfat5791
    @swiftlyfat5791 Год назад +3

    Don’t forget his little piddly quick melee. I remember when he came out and me and my friend died laughing at the fact that this mega weapon in the Overwatch universe wielded by a guy who’s entire kit revolves around punching gets a quick melee that uses his tiny fist versus you know the doomfist

    • @tristan-smith102
      @tristan-smith102 Год назад +4

      Funnily enough, you soon realize you get more finishing blows with the small melee than actually landing the punch

  • @LumpyHippo
    @LumpyHippo Год назад +5

    Wall bounce should do like an extra 110 now Doomfist will be a displacement tank not because he can push you a few inches but because players will reconsider their position.

  • @wingedbluj1674
    @wingedbluj1674 7 месяцев назад +1

    What it lacks in damage, it makes up for in punishing grouped up enemies. This then forces them to split up... which Doomfist can then punish with his high mobility and primary fire.

  • @Alexael9922
    @Alexael9922 9 месяцев назад +2

    Well it did used to one shot mf's against a surface in the good ol days

  • @m4dnezz402
    @m4dnezz402 Год назад +3

    -They should add his uppercut back as a 4th ability but make it so you can only use it while on the ground, kinda like wreckingballs pile driver 50dmg
    -give his old slam back as an option if you (hold) the slam button, the damage can go from 50 capping at 75 but sacrificing it for a much smaller slam area/smaller cone. (Adds small air effect like dps doom did) whereas the tankfist slam will add a (small slow duration) like beta ow2 doomfist
    - make his powerblock 90Mitdmg or leave it at 100Mitdmg
    -empowered+wall is 150dmg instead of 120 because you should be allowed to 1shot a tracer, change stun duration from 0.75 to 0.50 and remove normal punch stun like beta ow2 doom.
    -make his max overhealth stack to 700 instead of 650 to make frontlining actually valuable.
    -make reload time on primary 0.15 seconds longer
    /I say these changes because doomfist has too many counters, no survivability, no damage output whatsoever and it’s very difficult to confirm kills. Ontop of that, doomfist has no real benefits to targeting single individuals anymore whereas every other tank does. Doomfist just needs more mechanics and ways to confirm kills, he’s somehow a terrible tank and a terrible dps, he is nothing rn☹️

  • @deez6683
    @deez6683 Год назад +8

    This canonically means that d’va’s melee attack does the same damage as a giant metal fist flying twards you at over 100 mph

  • @itsfrickintuglyfe_1162
    @itsfrickintuglyfe_1162 Год назад +2

    I pray every day to have him as a dps again

  • @AustinsEdits
    @AustinsEdits Год назад +2

    Legit dooms powered punch should deal like 200 damage. It’s lame that is only like 20 more damage.

  • @gummygrenade
    @gummygrenade Год назад +6

    Make doomfist a DPS again

    • @StupidityInANutshell
      @StupidityInANutshell Год назад +1

      Nah. Give him back uppercut, and/or make the block reduce more damage.

    • @linkplays2952
      @linkplays2952 Год назад

      @@StupidityInANutshell it reduces like 50% juts give him 150 more hp lmfao

  • @alexeirasputin2016
    @alexeirasputin2016 Год назад +5

    I still think mei would have made more sense as a tank than doom 😓

  • @nikoskavvadias2366
    @nikoskavvadias2366 Год назад +1

    Proficient doomfist players are just dominating the back line like its nothing. His dmg is nothing to scoff off if your brain cells work

  • @1ARSONIST546
    @1ARSONIST546 Год назад +2

    dev's they say this rework, this nerf for doom not rework

  • @Topper127
    @Topper127 Год назад +35

    i think they should buff doomfist’s damage from 50 to 120 and 150 when the enemy hits the wall, and 200 when he has a charged fist so he can be truly dangerous with a charged fist and not just deal an extra 5 damage

    • @Milk63727
      @Milk63727 Год назад +30

      Hell no that would be op as hell

    • @CharterForGaming
      @CharterForGaming Год назад +18

      One shotting squishies. What are you even thinking

    • @gavoon1231
      @gavoon1231 Год назад +6

      hell no

    • @Topper127
      @Topper127 Год назад +3

      his charge is pretty useless if not 200 then 100 base damage and 175 with charged fist would work in my opinion

    • @vectorshot3072
      @vectorshot3072 Год назад +19

      He's a tank not a dps Jesus mate

  • @Zay-zi2te
    @Zay-zi2te Год назад +11

    They don’t need to switch him to dps that would just be dumb, GIVE HIME MORE DAMAGE ON THE PUNCH

    • @SalvionOW
      @SalvionOW Год назад +4

      I am a doom main and that would be a very bad idea he’s already in a ok spot rn. Coming from a masters 3 doom one trick

    • @Topper127
      @Topper127 Год назад +2

      @@SalvionOWon the lower ranks he is very trash so a buff is very needed now and maybe nerfing his movement or already powerful combos to match the stats of a good buffed doomfist

    • @SalvionOW
      @SalvionOW Год назад +3

      @@Topper127 They’ve nerfed his movement many times and he doesn’t have any powerful combos unless your talking about dps doom. But tank doom no

    • @Asynurr
      @Asynurr Год назад +3

      ​@V01D Eh, top 500 doom otp, make him how he was in season 1 and let him keep the season 2 change where when he ults he get empowered and he would actually be a good pick.

    • @commandershephard5019
      @commandershephard5019 Год назад +5

      I main doom and the thing I want the most is cut down the cooldown times I always find myself in spots where I’m defenseless waiting for cool downs 😂

  • @ReddBoi64
    @ReddBoi64 Год назад +2

    Doomfist is a nightmare to balance because his design within a FPS is kinda impossible to simultaneously make “fun to play” AND “fun to play against” . Across OW’s history, Doomfist has always either been trash like he is now, or a menace to society who makes the game unplayable because you can’t walk 2 feet without getting, slammed, stunned, bounced, and launched into walls at high velocity. His placement as a basically melee only hero with little to no shields means either he needs to be practically unkillable through movement abilities and passives, or make him be able to instant kill people so he can get value, otherwise the second Doomfist jumps in he would be feeding. If they choose the former, well congrats you have a tank who is certainly annoying to play against, and since there’s only one tank now, somewhat annoying to have on your team if the enemy tank is making mincemeat of your teams back line while doom goes and fails to even kill a support.
    I hope that when… or if the PvE ever comes out, we get to play a lore accurate Doomfist who we don’t need to worry about the feelings of the enemies. PvE will let characters be broken for the sake of enjoyment.

  • @ismmo2465
    @ismmo2465 9 месяцев назад +2

    Playing OverWatch 2 is pretty underwhelming right now.

  • @w_out7631
    @w_out7631 Год назад +7

    I miss bashing people into walls and hitting them for 250

  • @AnalistGuffy
    @AnalistGuffy Год назад +4

    i really want him as dps again. take away the old one shot against a wall, sure, but everything good and fun about him is gone. worst tank in the game with the worst ult in the game.

  • @bepsi3851
    @bepsi3851 Год назад +1

    Let’s also add the fact that his gauntlet can LEVEL A SKYSCRAPER

  • @OgunsFist
    @OgunsFist Год назад +2

    Doom main from bronze all the way to diamond 1 trick, there’s a few ways to buff him without breaking the game, first reduce punch cool down, with the 1 second stun gone this won’t affect cc time that much and allow doom to actually put more pressure on to a team, lower the dmg needed for enhanced punch, and maybe widen the center of his ult a tiny bit, everything else is fine

  • @caliber5302
    @caliber5302 Год назад +3

    Sounds like we need to nerf genji

  • @mattpresley9809
    @mattpresley9809 Год назад +1

    that seamless rotation to the start of the video though was clean af

  • @MrProteeus
    @MrProteeus 6 месяцев назад

    What’s worse is when you punch people sometimes they don’t even hit the wall no more they just slide right off it

  • @Gibbypastrami
    @Gibbypastrami Год назад +1

    You either get movement or damage or stun or stun, you can’t have all of em so pick a couple, yeah he sucks to play as, but it sucked to play against him in OW1, a more work needs to be done

    • @jackiejackyjaqy...7219
      @jackiejackyjaqy...7219 Год назад +2

      he is soooooo fun to play tho...
      also I think you can buff him in another way
      he is a brawler, close combatant he is most likely to be shot at cuz he will be in range
      make him tankier
      like a 550 health pool with 150-200 armour or 200-275 shields (I'd prefer armour personally for doomfist)
      and nerf his passive max overhealth to 150 max so that he caps out at a maximum of 700 hp

    • @ihateyou69420
      @ihateyou69420 Год назад +1

      @@jackiejackyjaqy...7219 you are cooking man it's insane!

    • @m4dnezz402
      @m4dnezz402 Год назад

      -They should add his uppercut back as a 4th ability but make it so you can only use it while on the ground, kinda like wreckingballs pile driver 50dmg
      -give his old slam back as an option if you (hold) the slam button, the damage can go from 50 capping at 75 but sacrificing it for a much smaller slam area/smaller cone. (Adds small air effect like dps doom did) whereas the tankfist slam will add a (small slow duration) like beta ow2 doomfist
      - make his powerblock 90Mitdmg or leave it at 100Mitdmg
      -empowered+wall is 150dmg instead of 120 because you should be allowed to 1shot a tracer, change stun duration from 0.75 to 0.50 and remove normal punch stun like beta ow2 doom.
      -make his max overhealth stack to 700 instead of 650 to make frontlining actually valuable.
      -make reload time on primary 0.15 seconds longer
      /I say these changes because doomfist has too many counters, no survivability, no damage output whatsoever and it’s very difficult to confirm kills. Ontop of that, doomfist has no real benefits to targeting single individuals anymore whereas every other tank does. Doomfist just needs more mechanics and ways to confirm kills, he’s somehow a terrible tank and a terrible dps, he is nothing rn☹️

  • @jackiejackyjaqy...7219
    @jackiejackyjaqy...7219 9 месяцев назад +2

    Yeah but that gauntlet also does stuff the other ones don't
    1
    Insane mobility
    2
    Insane Knockback
    3
    0.4 sec stun on said knockback and then another 0.25 sec stun on wall impact
    4
    It hits multiple people with its blastback radius

  • @toddoverholt4556
    @toddoverholt4556 9 месяцев назад +1

    His damage used to be a lot higher but when they made him a tank they neutered his damage because people complained about him in OW1 being too strong because he punished people who let him get too close

  • @MJY5drives
    @MJY5drives 9 месяцев назад +1

    Me being part of the player base that never got to experience DPS doom

  • @extraterrestrial8888
    @extraterrestrial8888 Год назад +2

    I feel like making Doomfist a DPS and Mei a tank like the community was asking for when OW2 was first announced would be so much better. Mei has actual tank util. Add back her freeze, make it take a bit longer to get back, and boom. Good hero.

  • @technounionrepresentative4274
    @technounionrepresentative4274 4 месяца назад

    It's even worse because everything cancells the charge and even if you hit a fully charged punch there are soo many get out of jail free cards in the game now that you can't follow up the punch with anything sometimes

  • @kamikaze4172
    @kamikaze4172 11 месяцев назад +1

    I knew that damn thing felt weak. Even when going up against a Doomfist (I suck against most heroes, mind you), it feels less like a threat and more like a nuisance

  • @iiliiliiliil3444
    @iiliiliiliil3444 Год назад +1

    I was hyped that they were making doomfist into a tank at first, but all they did was boost his hp, nerf his entire kit, and give him a crappy block (that is basically the same as ramattra but with a cooldown). His rework honestly feels worse than any of the ideas made in the workshop by fans prior to overwatch 2. They should have just left him as a dps.

  • @tonydiamond7663
    @tonydiamond7663 11 месяцев назад +1

    Never thought I'd say I miss damage Doomfist

  • @declanwinchester5146
    @declanwinchester5146 Год назад +1

    I can't deny the incredible loop that exists here
    And that's why.. playing doomfist feels very underwhelming

  • @LH0KY
    @LH0KY Год назад +2

    “He can level a sky scraper” they addressed this after he came out and gave him a carpenters level spray.

  • @swallux8941
    @swallux8941 13 дней назад

    I love how ironically the canonical strongest weapon is the weakest in game

  • @nightmarecat3602
    @nightmarecat3602 Год назад +1

    I miss old doomfist 😭 I could punch a stupid tank and take half their health if not more it was glorious

  • @visibleconfusion9741
    @visibleconfusion9741 Год назад

    A good doomfist is a nightmare. I fought a diamond one the other day. I had to play Ana and sit with my hog who was on a similar wavelength just to compete.

  • @murpl1462
    @murpl1462 Год назад

    When doom was a dps this was doing like 300 damage with a wall collision but apparently people don’t want to play against someone who has multiple one shots in 1 rotation, high mobility, and multiple CCs

  • @Yato_q
    @Yato_q Год назад

    if you give soldier a doomfist punch he would be an absolute menace
    a lot of characters would trade their liver for the doomfist punch

    • @FossorialFungus
      @FossorialFungus Год назад

      all doomfist punch would be good for is a bit of mobility, you'd get more value than empowered punch with orisa spear

  • @whyhaveiahandle
    @whyhaveiahandle 11 месяцев назад +1

    problem is the community have cried and cried about this character for many years. Blizzard unfortunately listened too them and changed how his punch works :(

  • @chikihando2483
    @chikihando2483 Год назад

    Remember the animation where Doomfist with less experience beat Winston + Tracer + Genji in a 1v3 ? The good ol days

  • @Mat69420k
    @Mat69420k Год назад +1

    Me: Man I miss DPS Doom 😢
    **Support mains explaining how the world is a better place now that he's gone, and how we would achieve world peace if Blizzard just deleted every fucking character in the game and just left the specific supports that they main as playable characters**

  • @FFullMetalPanic
    @FFullMetalPanic Год назад

    I have tried accepting doom in the tank roll, but now he has to rely on boops instead of wallbangs, I miss the OG “one punch is all I need”
    Now it’s “Three punches I might need”

  • @jayanta131190
    @jayanta131190 23 дня назад

    Yesterday i was practicing my junker queen, lost 7 matches in a row. For the last game went back to doomfist. Absolutely decimated the enemy team. Went to sleep happy

  • @L1ghtJump3r_
    @L1ghtJump3r_ Год назад +2

    Ngl bring back iw1 doom cause I would literally donate a kidney for it

  • @ryne1625
    @ryne1625 Год назад +1

    This isnt the root of the problem. You not only have to land this weak hit, but also land 4 perfectly aimed, spread-based left click shots, then maybe add a melee into the mix, all the while the target receives no healing (which is highly improbable). I have many times gotten an enemy down to 10-20 hp, only for them to be outhealed way out of my damage potential (as doomfist's left click reload is extremely slow, and his punch has a 4 second cooldown). Thus, I am left with no option but to retreat without a kill due to this razor thin margin of error

  • @redr6107
    @redr6107 9 месяцев назад +1

    Playing doomfist feels very underwhelming, I have a brig ult on CD every 4 second. how will I manage.

  • @Damanticore
    @Damanticore 9 месяцев назад +1

    He's so useless as a tank they didn't have to ruin him just make it so he doesn't one hit. Why is this shit so hard for them?